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5 Ways Russia's Ukraine "Boomerang" Could Strike

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Submitted by Harry Kazianis via The Diplomat,

Last week Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov declared that any sanctions introduced by Washington against Moscow will have a “boomerang” effect. And such a boomerang could have some oomph. What would such a boomerang look like? Here are five ways (beyond the one Ankit Panda pointed out last week) Putin could make life very difficult for America and its allies in Asia if tensions in Eastern Europe were to intensify and Russia sought to retaliate:

1. Russian Arms Sales to China go hog wild – Remember that deal that keeps floating around concerning Russian SU-35s and advanced conventional submarines to China? Even if things don’t get worse in Ukraine, I think we can consider that a done deal now. But, heck, why stop there! If Washington wants to keep upping the ante in Ukraine it might be a great time for Moscow to expand its dealings with China to levels never seen. Remember all that talk about hypersonic weapons in January? Since both nations are pursing such weapons, why not share the costs and the spoils? It seems 5th generation fighters aren’t easy for anyone to craft these days—so why not a joint Russo-Sino development project? If things were to get really nasty, and Russia decided to pull out of the INF treaty, maybe it’s time Moscow and Beijing exchange notes on all those lovely A2/AD weapons systems we like to talk about here on Flashpoints? I could go on and on. The bottom line: If Russia wanted to make things hard for America in Asia at a time when its defense budget is shrinking, here is an easy way to do it.

2. Moscow goes all in on natural resource sales to Beijing – While large deals were announced late last year, China would love to purchase as much Russian oil, natural gas and any other natural resources it could get its hands on. While issues of price have slowed or halted other deals in the past, Russia this time might be a little more flexible, especially if it were to halt or slow sales to Ukraine or Western Europe. China clearly wins in such a deal as it would become less reliant on sea-borne natural resources imports that could be disrupted if things with America were to go really south.

3. Russian Arms Sales to Iran, Rebooted - While any analysis here must factor in P5+1 negotiations over Tehran’s nuclear deal, Moscow could seek to make trouble for Washington and its allies by rebooting arms sales to Iran. With Russia and Iran already trying to work out the aftermath of an aborted sale of the S-300 air defense system, Putin may decide to put the system back on the table for Iran. In fact, he may even suggest selling Tehran the more advanced S-400 system. Consider this: if nuclear negotiations fail and Iran fears an attack by the West over its nuclear facilities, Russia could be in position to supply all the weapons it needs to make such an attack even more complicated than it would already be.

4. Syria: Give Assad all the arms he wants: While Russia may have offered an unlikely solution to the chemical weapons crisis of last summer, the U.S. and its allies should expect nothing from Moscow if Putin’s boomerang comes lunging back at them. Putin could easily begin sending even more arms to his allies in Syria, raising the stakes and a death toll that is already reaching epic if not historic proportions. While it may be hard to envision Russia being able to completely turn the tide with Assad winning a clear victory, Moscow could certainly change the calculus if it decided to go all in and arm Syria to the teeth.

5. The Death of the Pivot/Rebalance: So say tensions in Eastern Europe were to escalate even further with Russia formally annexing Crimea or worse—Russia taking large sections of Eastern Ukraine. It does not seem out of the question that Washington would be forced to consider beefing up its security commitments in Europe. While additional forces could certainly move into the region as a deterrent to further Russia troublemaking, missile defense plans scuttled in the past could be re-crafted, and U.S. naval power could make a strong comeback. All this comes at a price however. Unless the U.S. were to increase its defense spending which, short of a shooting war I consider unlikely, American forces, already stretched thin to begin with, would be even more strained. Washington may simply have no choice but to reconsider its mighty pivot/rebalance to Asia. Add in the fact that a senior defense department official may have put the final coffin in it anyway– stating that “right now, the pivot is being looked at again, because candidly it can’t happen”– one more nail for good measure thanks to Russia would certainly seal its fate.

 

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Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:01 | 4545537 Duc888
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As long as potty poot rips the dollar from reserve curerency...then everything will wind up just roses.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:09 | 4545577 TruthInSunshine
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Important Off Topic -

And so it begins; the "Economic Depression" that so many naive investors had thought Bernanke & his equally incompetent and/or malicious central reserve fractional fiat bankers saved us from gets an official renewal shot across the bow in the form of this warning:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/13/china-li-keqiang-wans-inves...

Phillip Inman economics correspondent
The Guardian, Thursday 13 March 2014 16.29 EDT

"China's Li Keqiang warns investors to prepare for wave of bankruptcies
World's second largest economy is facing 'serious challenges' and many companies with high debts are being forced to the wall"

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:14 | 4545591 knukles
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Invade the Ukraine.
Stop paying on any and all Ukrainian debts (fucking the EU and US, in turn's banks)
Sell all natural resources for Gold and Only Gold.  Or rubles
Stop taking dollars and Euros for AnyThingWhatSoEver
Sign a mutual defense, Nuke'em treaty with China.

Anything else I forgot?

Oh, nobody from the West has access to Russian or Ukrainian Brides by E-Mail, anymore.

PS... John Kohn is Persona Non-Grata in the New USSR

 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:28 | 4545646 zaphod
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I disagree with #5, why should the US beef up their bases in the EU?

The EU has been protesting US military presense for decades (Germany the most), but the second things become difficult everyone changes their tune. If the EU hates the US so much, why should the US come to the rescue yet again? 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:31 | 4545659 kaiserhoff
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This is fun to a point, but Putin has nothing to gain and everything to lose by ramping up hostilities.

Russia is stable and some progress is being made.., for the first time since Peter the Great.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:38 | 4545678 angel_of_joy
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Your limited Western way of thinking shows off. For them (Russians), Ukraine is all about their own national security. Not allowing NATO encroachment in their soft belly side...

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:51 | 4545751 kaiserhoff
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Good point, but what could Putin hope to achieve by rolling tanks across the border?

At best he would be buying decades of low grade civil war and terrorism, and a gradual halt to trade with the west.  He might  get a re-armed Germany, well supported by Poland and the rest of the east.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:59 | 4545768 fightthepower
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Nope, Germany and the West are emasculated and are more interested in having gays in the military and on all major media than anything else. Not to mention they are bankrupt .

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:26 | 4545821 Jack Napier
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6. Russia cuts off the Platinum supply - With strikes already occuring in South Africa causing PGM prices to spike, Putin, who commands the other lion's share of Platinum production could help usher in GM 2.0 the world over by hitting automotive companies already sitting on massive inventories with high cost catalytic converters.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:26 | 4545845 Pure Evil
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Let's just admit that military spending for all sides is double plus good for all concerned, except of course the taxpayers.

But, it sounded to me, from the article, that this was more of a subliminal advertisement for rearmament than a cautionary tale about facing off the Russians in Ukraine.

Not rooting for either side of the coin, just saying this to satisfy the douche bag BKbroiler, but I wouldn't doubt we'll be pounded by Republitards going into the fall elections about the need to increase defense spending, and just look how the Demofarts hate the military, blah, blah, blah, look how they dropped the ball on Putin and Russian and China, blah, blah, blah, ad infinitum.

So far, if the gullible plebeians fall for the scheme once again, we'll see the defense budget once again being doubled over the next decade, especially if the Russians go ahead with what was outlined in the post with the US and NATO having an excuse to increase their defense budgets. A win-win, wink-wink, so to speak, for all sides concerned.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:29 | 4545855 Jack Napier
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The primary aim of modern warfare is to use up the products of the machine without raising the general standard of living. To that end I say, whether republic-rat or democan't, whether USSA or USSR; left wing, right wing, same bird of prey.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 21:24 | 4546054 Occident Mortal
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Russia could always atomise Lower Manhattan or raise the ground temperature of the District of Columbia to a couple of million degrees.

But that would probably just make the US stronger and more productive.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 22:27 | 4546255 old naughty
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Ok, so RussPut bearhug both EUR and Asia, fxxk Asia has been in the conceived...

Cold-Hot war(s) back on (we never learn).

What about MH370?

Twist gets twist-er...

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:37 | 4547164 BlindMonkey
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No, no, no.   Ockam's razor suggests thAt the simplest MH370 explanation is that it was taken by Fox in full cooperation with governments Boeing and the airlines.  It is sitting on a deserted island that is loaded up with HD cameras and mics for Fox's next level reality TV series.  Lost meets survivor and all of that.  Doesn't anybody ever learn around here?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 01:41 | 4546738 StychoKiller
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No need to roll tanks across the border(s).  Ukraine needs munny.  Who's gonna loan it to them?  The EU? USA?  Putin has Europe over a (oil) barrel, and IF the USA thinks they can loan funbux to Ukraine, while China stands idly by, all I can say to that is WTF are these idjuts smoking?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 22:06 | 4546197 Anusocracy
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Damn, some people are stupid.

The US started this mess, idiot.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:08 | 4545793 FlyingDutchman
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It's not so much a question of coming to the rescue - the US surely did that and much appreciated thx from the bottom-, it's more like we never asked for all the conflicts and violence that came afterwards.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:22 | 4545838 zaphod
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Fair enough, agreed. I find the US's behavior driven through our military industrial complex disgusting. But the EU does have the habit of leaving many difficult situations to the US and then attacking the US when things don't go perfectly...

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 22:17 | 4546225 Anusocracy
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"why should the US come to the rescue yet again"

How so? The US should have stayed out of WWI which was the cause of WWII.

The Soviets fought 80% of German forces.

The only good the US is capable of is leaving others alone which it can't seem to do.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:29 | 4545653 cossack55
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Outright purchase of the entire silver market, pushing JPM in the grave it so richly deserves.   $2-3 billion should do it.  Oh, delivery only.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 02:46 | 4546789 Kirk2NCC1701
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+1. Then follow up with... "Gas for Gold" to the EU.

Should really mess with the Euro, and the fiat-QE/USD that's propping it up. NY would shit.

Both our suggestions would have fundamental and IMMEDIATE effects. The author's obvious and linear-thinking effects would be DUMB, because they take way too long to matter: It is imperative to front-run the US intentions to sell LNG to the EU by 2015.

If that happens, the Petro-Dollar becomes the Energy-Dollar, and then it's Check Matt, Vlad.

If Russia and China outflank and outpace this US move (LNG to EU --> Energy-Dollar), then the Fed and Obama are 'toast'. The GOP would hopefully impeach Obama. If they have ANY brains or balls left.

It all comes down to who can implement their plans faster and execute them better.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 07:29 | 4547005 flapdoodle
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oil/gas for gold OR YUAN. would actually work... I doubt there is enough gold available for just gold (this move would make the price of gold skyrocket anyway, as everyone plus dog tries to manipulate the price UP to get more oil for their precious ingots)

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:55 | 4545765 chubbar
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OK Knuckles, stop right the fuck there. No more Ukrainian or Russian brides by email? I don't want to live in a world like that!

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:31 | 4545864 e_goldstein
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Anything else I forgot?

Dump US treasuries.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:37 | 4545882 acetinker
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Mr. Heinz-Kerry is persona-non-grata in the house of acetinker, as well.  The haircut in search of a brain (credit; JHK) is still a very dangerous individual.  A cornered animal is a dangerous animal, even if it's only a rat.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 05:32 | 4546889 XAU XAG
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nukles

 

Sell all natural resources for Gold and Only Gold.  Or rubles

 

 

OR ONLY SILVER!

There is less available silver..............and china needs silver for solar

That would be my move...........corner the market in silver...............


Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:15 | 4545606 The Alarmist
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The Russkies probably learned from the cold war that trying to outspend the US on military crap is counterproductive, so I could see them doing none of the above.  OTOH, dumping US treasuries and selling oil for anything other than dollars is a potent threat, either of which will no doubt trigger tire burning and regime change in Moscow.  BTW, I suspect the only reason Vlad has not financed tire burning and regime change in Washington is the fact that BHO is doing more to destablise the US than the Russkies could hope to accomplish with regime change.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:27 | 4545647 kaiserhoff
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Yes, who could be worse than Barry?

My only candidate would be the Wookie.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:33 | 4545667 knukles
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Kankles/Wookie 2016

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:37 | 4545682 Bastiat
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The horror . . .

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:44 | 4545723 The Alarmist
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The correct order would be Wookie/Cankles.  Some stati trump others.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:20 | 4545830 lotsoffun
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kaiser - don't kid yourself.  clinton's wanted to keep running (even if they weren't really still the 'clintons' and monica was a third wheel), and big bad bama's may do so also.  they could run the wookie, and they will try.  now!  think about it.  we have 100% black, born in the usa, female, mom, big first. wants you to eat your peas and grow a victory garden.  she WILL run.  and on the other side,   hahaha.  jeb bush.  the first family to have THREE presidents. 

that's our choice.  i think hillary is going to step down to wookie, but it will be ugly.

watch.  jeb wins.

 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:33 | 4545870 Pure Evil
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Ok, why don't we just take some body parts from some of the most evil men in history like Stalin, Hitler, Obama and Evil Lincoln and create a new Frankenstein's monster to scare all the little chullren.

Now that I think about, not a bad idea.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 06:41 | 4546946 Joenobody12
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Obama is not evil, he is just stupid and so, easily manipulated by the neocons around him. 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:27 | 4547132 drdolittle
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Fuck!

The worst part is you'e right. One of those three assholes will win.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:36 | 4545878 Winston Churchill
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McStain/Hitlery 2016.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:40 | 4545887 Crash Overide
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BHO according to Carey...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIMnIh10po0

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:40 | 4545891 acetinker
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Never disturb your enemy when he is busy destroying himself.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 22:02 | 4546184 caconhma
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Just keep in mind that the Russia ruling oligarchy keeps most of their money and their families in EU and the USA. The Russia Foreign Minister Lavrov family lives in the USA. Putin's surrounding does not want a war. They would rather see Putin dead.

Putin was too busy with the Sochi Olympics and lost Ukraine and now he is trying to save his face and reputation. So, he is looking for a good negotiation solution. 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:00 | 4545774 Freddie
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The funniest part is the F-35 and even the F-22 are a piece of shit.  Total junk and American taxpayers have been screwed agiant by the MIC-zio-contractors.

If China gets the Su-35 and the S-400 then it is game over.  Russia is already onto the S-500.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxDSiwqM2nw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27qdB1D0s9M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39AO-axUd-k

A 1950s Mig-21 could kill an F-35.  Fire and forget air to air missiles are fantasy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqjjHDGWm4Q

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:22 | 4545839 nightshiftsucks
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Hey stupid fuck,how many F35 operational squadrons are there.Let me answer that for you dumb fuck,that would be a great big ZERO. If Russia's tech is so great how come they haven't comercialized it and sold it to the sheep ?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 00:40 | 4546656 Freddie
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LOL!

Oh who is that? Adm. Mike Mullen sitting in a Chinese Su-27 that the Chinese bought from Russia.  Russia is wary of selling them the more advanced Su-35.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdArV2xhgw0

India Air Force Su-30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q-1s-7hJqA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB1S8JEyaYE

America is Obama/Trayvon-ville country.

Even the Gripen is better than the crappy F-35

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vl8Uah1Exk

The Gripen is not built by American union monkeys.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 05:59 | 4546912 Urban Redneck
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I hate YouTube for anything more sophisticated than small arms, but given your dislike of the f-35 you might enjoy this interview...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxDSiwqM2nw

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 05:55 | 4546905 Urban Redneck
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Sales of advanced weapons to advanced nations are counterproductive in terms of ROI due to intellectual property theft.  Previous experience with China proves this, and hence the current hangup with the French-Russian naval deal.  The existing Russian-Indian collaboration on missile technology is the only viable model going forward.  

Sales of advanced weapons to less advanced nations are another matter.  But there are 2 concerns when it comes to advanced weapons.  Losing the moral high ground with non-proliferation and the ability to get the weapons back if need be.  The Cuban Missile Crisis is an apt example.  The had relatively no difficulties getting its nukes out of Turkey, whereas Russian extraction of nukes was more difficult with the Castro regime.  So in regards to Syria and Iran, Russian overseas bases are a far more practical solution- as the nukes can be recalled if the desired concessions are achieved, there is actual proliferation of WMD, and (somewhat) less of a threat of an arms race being kicked off among banana republics, and there is an added benefit for the banana republic itself, in that their adversaries are likely to strike against a Russian military facility given the increased threat of severe and existential repercussions.  

Why the Diplo-dipshits are still given a voice on ZH eludes me, as they really don't seem to have even a basic understanding or underlying subjects about which they continue to write.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:41 | 4545893 Crash Overide
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Wait until they roll out the 2000 SUX.

 

DETROIT!!!

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 21:52 | 4546142 BigJim
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Nonsense! The F22's great... in a rain-free climate.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:44 | 4545900 silvermail
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Method No. 6:

I certainly do not Putin. But I would just shut the border of Russia, which is now allowed to use to exit U.S. Army from Afghanistan. In addition, I would do the supply of weapons, for Afghan Taliban: Latest Russian RPG - 3000 pcs and the latest Russian MANPADS - 1000 pcs. Checkmate.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 21:00 | 4545961 mrblah
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Russia isnt just the desired route to exit Afghanistan.

Its also the preferred route currently to transport goods in, including foods/supplies and most crucially fuel which the troops rely on.

There is no viable alternative either. Pakistans border is uncontrollable, and to use Iraq requires passing across Iranian land, which they would cut off in a second with Russians blessing if it came to it.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:02 | 4545549 ShrNfr
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"Tensions in Eastern Europe escalated even further with Russia formally annexing Crimea" - fixed it for ya. That is the headline for tuesday of next week.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:07 | 4545555 remain calm
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6) Nuke Washington DC (1600 Pensylvania Ave NW) and be the most popular man in USA

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:07 | 4545572 grekko
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You might add JPM to that short list.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:09 | 4545579 666
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"Nuke Washington DC (1600 Pensylvania Ave NW) and be the most popular man in USA"

You mean the world.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:20 | 4545619 Son of Captain Nemo
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Only if Washington and Tel Aviv thinks it can win...

And the best part of that is "they can't" and "they won't"!!!!

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:38 | 4545884 zionhead101
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Tel-Aviv always WIN's and is winning, has won,

Syria continues to kill ALL, soon like Africa there will be nobody alive in Syria.

Ukraine will descend into a civil war, permanently, brother will kill brother, and Tel-Aviv pull's the strings in safety.

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Putin is held hostage by Tel-Aviv,...

If I were PUTIN I would NUKE tel-aviv, and put an end to the madness. Pure and simple.

Kerry, Clinton, ... are endless stooges, only Cass Sunstein, and Netanyahu are immortal. Fuck the stooges watch the immortals.

 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:54 | 4545948 acetinker
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Ok zion, satoshi, gully- whoever, whatever the fuck you are- I haven't called you out that I recall, but by this comment alone and by your own words, indicates an individual who serially mis-represents actual understanding.  Yeah, you hit the right notes, but you ignore the cadence, rhythm and harmony.  Thus, your song sucks ass.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 21:12 | 4546000 zionhead101
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notes, rhthym, and harmony are here correctly, the music is pure and consonant, but  your counter-comment is/was written by a bot, with no substance, ... why don't you specifically tell us how TEL-AVIV doesn't control how the USA murders people in LIBYA, SYRIA, UKRAINE?

TEL-AVIV is smart they let the USA be the money-tree, and the USA be the mercenary army,then no blood is on zionist's hands, and now the world has turned against the USA, and if anybody mentions that TEL-AVIV is pulling the strings they send in the GOONS like you.

Compeche Bitch?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 22:23 | 4546249 acetinker
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It's capiche.  To tell the truth, I don't know who runs the world but I suspect it to be the same folks who own the central banks.  Betcha Russia's central bank is owned by the same entities.  So, this whole shit-show is a farce.  Capiche?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:47 | 4545734 agent default
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You will  have to take out Brussels as well for that.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 21:14 | 4546009 zionhead101
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"Nuke Washington DC (1600 Pensylvania Ave NW) and be the most popular man in USA"

You mean the world.

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TEL-AVIV is where the puppet masters that control AIPAC reside, and thus if you want to  NEUTER WASH-DC, you take out TEL-AVIV, take out WASH-DC and you accomplish nothing.

TEL-AVIV can replace WASH-DC with a new set of assholes in 10 days. They have an army of wannabe politicians waiting for call.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 03:01 | 4546805 Kirk2NCC1701
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What about a "BOGO" deal and target J'lem also?

And why stop there? Why not take out M'cca too?

If no Deity shows up after that, the gig would clearly be up, and you'd have 5,000 yrs of peace.

If you're serious about a lasting solution.

Remember: Religion is what gives Shamans and Charlatans job security, and keeps the poor from murdering the rich.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:19 | 4545616 The Alarmist
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Had to downvote you for being raycis.  Not so much for that address, but for all the surrounding neighbourhoods that can't afford to move farther away.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:36 | 4545872 Pure Evil
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It's not that they can't afford to move its just that they're mindless slaves on the Democrat D.C. plantation.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:05 | 4545559 PSEUDOLOGOI
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I keep reading article after article here on zh, and I get the sense that they are mostly pro-Russia/Putin.  but maybe i'm biast, so let's ignore that for now.

if you all believe that Russia can stand up to banksters etc... please remember Romanof's and their fate...

the bankers have won all fights so far.  I don't like this, but this is how it is.  Russia will lose, China will stab it in the back also.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:13 | 4545596 socalbeach
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All the Russians would have to do is target the homeland(s) of the bankers with a few dozen nuclear weapons.  That should cool the bankers' enthusiasm for conflict between the US and Russia.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:25 | 4545638 All_Your_Base
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"the bankers have won all fights so far"

mOAR holes in dike than squid has tenticles

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:31 | 4545660 knukles
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I don't interpret things here (as well as the growing into majority of other website's comments) as "pro" Putin as opposed to more of a manifestation of "enough with the bullshit, inferiority complex, racism and divisiveness (just to name a few characteristics) of the current administration.

Seriously.
Even the NYT recently has had article by such died in the wool liberal intellects (eyes rolling) like Maureen Dowd that have been highly critical of their Messiah, of late.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:42 | 4545708 nmewn
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Its an insult to liberals everywhere to call these socialist scolds...liberals.

I'm fucking sick to death of them, you can't talk to them, you can't reason with them. They are incapable of seeing the absolute waste of lives & property they leave in their wake everywhere they go. Eat this, don't eat that. Say this, don't say that. Read this, don't read that.

"Oh! That didn't work out. We'll try something else!" (and fuck it up worse)

Technocratic imbecile dickheads, every one of them.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:54 | 4545762 kaiserhoff
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But they have such good intentions, like the road to hell.

Now, if they would only use their own damn money. 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:27 | 4545846 nmewn
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3/4's of them are as dumb as a stump and the other quarter (I'm now fully convinced) are habitual liars.

When is the last time you talked to one and said, "Remember what "we" told you was going to happen with..." X? Three quarters of the time you get a blank stare...like the conversation (and the warning) never happened...the other 25% of the time you get some bullshit wandering away from the subject.

Its impossible for them to admit a mistake or the whole ideology goes down like dominoes lined up waiting for the finger to flick the first one.  

It never ceases to amaze me that the cure for "manmade global warming" is for the state to tax the ever loving shit out of someone...that the cure for random acts of public violence is for the state to confiscate all guns...that the cure for "wealth inequality" is for the state to (again) tax the ever loving shit out someone "besides me"!!!...that the cure for FORTY MILLION PEOPLE WITHOUT HEALTH INSURANCE!!! gasp, gag! (apparently less than six million, now however) is to fuck it up for everyone else!

Piss on em, I'm done...ignorant lying bastards.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:54 | 4545941 new game
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when you get a cool tool, think of this; ignorance, keeping in mind the root word...

OR you could forgive them for they know not HOW FUCKING STUPID THEIR IDEOLOGY IS!

 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 21:30 | 4546076 nmewn
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Thats another thing, I'm sick and tired of 25% them claiming ignorance when cornered, its lying.

They know better...I don't care what their excuse is..."I just ignored what Margaret Sanger really said about blacks"..."I just ignored Keynes saying socio-economics is best suited for a totalitarian state".

I'm done with them, I don't acknowledge them as my equal or lend any credence to their thoughts or aspirations anymore...my tolerance for stupidity has reached its limits.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 23:56 | 4546567 knukles
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I'm with you, my brother.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:34 | 4547153 drdolittle
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excellent rant nmewn. I'm with you too

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:05 | 4545786 Freddie
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The USA is just totally corrupt now. Top to bottom with all of TV and Hollywood behind it along with idiots who watch it. ZH has plenty of TV viewing idiots too.

The USA is Trayvonville.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:24 | 4545842 nightshiftsucks
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Idiot's like you dumbfuck ? Clowns who believe everything they read and can't think for themselves like you ?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:59 | 4545958 silvermail
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It seems to me, that Mrs. Merkel brains today is boil. Politician should keep a cool head.
Putin can very effectively freeze the brain Mrs. Merkel if he closes oil and gas supplies to Europe and deploy them to China.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 21:09 | 4545982 silvermail
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I'm not advocating for Putin.
I just stand against the lies, aggression and hypocrisy from US side.

Just a decent person, it does not mean pro-Putin person, is not it?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 07:34 | 4547016 Joenobody12
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There aint that many Russian visiting ZH. Doesnt the fact that most ZH readers are "pro-Russia/Putin" tells you something ?  What are you missing ? (Hint - all the facts)

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:05 | 4545562 Jack Burton
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I see a Bullish stance on US Defense Industry Stocks as baked into the cake. The added spending will drive profits as a desperate America seeks to build a world wide military capable of Defeating Russia, China, Iran, Syria, NK and fuck knows who else, all at one time. Remember the cunts who sit in congress, remember who pulls their strings, you know who they are. America is a vast police, spy and military state. All we do anymore on the world stage is try and conquer and control every nation via force.

The trouble with the game the US Neocons are playing in Ukraine is that the real potential exists for their GAME of Thrones to destroy us all. Shall we all fucking die, me, you, my kids, your kids, everybody so that the Neocons who own Washington can play their power games?  The Ukraine takeover was long planned and well funded and the play book was written. CNN and the other propaganda whores are running cover.

If you care about your future, google Neocons, take a few hours to learn who they are and what they do, and then much will become clear.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:21 | 4545623 sgorem
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thanks Jack. you said it well

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:26 | 4545639 Son of Captain Nemo
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JB

With what computer and semiconductor manufacuring still in the U.S. which is better than 60% of those "integrated" weapons systems?...

Who provides the chips to Boeing, Lockheed and Raytheon in the last decade cause it's so cost effective???....

That strategic manufacturing would have to be rebuilt from scratch.

Ain't happenen here without a commerical base to help pay the taxes for that "military side of the fence"!

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:57 | 4545952 Crash Overide
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Freescale Semiconductor?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:37 | 4545681 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

I see a Bullish stance on US Defense Industry Stocks as baked into the cake. The added spending will drive profits as a desperate America seeks to build a world wide military capable of Defeating Russia, China, Iran, Syria, NK and fuck knows who else, all at one time.

Hey, isn't that what made the economy of pre-Gorbachev USSR so prosperous?

America is a vast police, spy and military state. All we do anymore on the world stage is try and conquer and control every nation via force.

Hey, isn't that what allowed the USSR to successfully conquer the globe and totally didn't impoverish its citizens?

If you care about your future, google Neocons, take a few hours to learn who they are and what they do, and then much will become clear.

PNAC would be a good starting point.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:44 | 4545722 McMolotov
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Isn't it ironic? Don't you think?

Who's the Evil Empire now, bitchez?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:47 | 4545736 Son of Captain Nemo
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TFS

Right on!

We gave away the crown jewels of our industrial computer technology and all it's labor to Malaysia, Philippines, India and China...

If we want to start a major one with the likes of China guess how streamlined the chip acquisition will be when we need them most to fight a war we will start with industries we no longer have because we gave it all away more than 20 years ago to cheap overseas labor!

To all Americans?

Shoot the politicians in Washington first for getting us here, then “shoot yourself” for your own selfish stupidity who either voted for them, (or if you didn't) allowed them to get this Country where it is today!!!

 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 21:04 | 4545975 zionhead101
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90% of all politicians in the USA are OWNED by AIPAC, the US public and voters don't have  fucking thing to do with off-shoring our jobs,

TEL-AVIV has looted the USA to the bone, and they have off-shored the jobs to where factory's could make a profit.

Tel-Aviv destroyed america's producitivity with UNIONS by design, and that drove the jobs away.

All according to plan, to drive America into the ground, and then BUY it back for nano-penny's on the dollar.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 07:52 | 4547050 flapdoodle
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Its like the scene in the movie "Independence Day" where the US President asks the Alien what they want, the latter responding "we want you to die".

My paranoid side is telling me the TPTB *really* want to kill off most of the world population, and a US-EU/Russia-China confrontation in Ukraine could certainly be the trigger for such a thing.

Fun facts: did you know that Ted Turner was recently hospitalized? In Argentina? Why would Ted Turner be living in Argentina these days?

 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:06 | 4545566 Newfie
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From Russia with love.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:06 | 4545567 svayambhu108
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I think Russia thinks now: why not fuel the Asian Economy, and with Europe and US in energy decline I think those tatoos will come in handy for a medieval future.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:10 | 4545580 Sirius Wonderblast
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Perhaps if Obama hadn't wanted to get back at Putin over Syria, then maybe he wouldn't be left wondering which way to look now (other than plumb stupid of course).

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:11 | 4545584 BullyBearish
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Great line in House of Cards: VP says to rich oligarch..."you may have all the money, but I have the men with guns"

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:12 | 4545589 gatorengineer
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3 percent off of all time highs, oh the humanity....  Emerging markets well off recent lows...  Silver smacked today.

 

Call me when it gets real

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:15 | 4545595 CrashisOptimistic
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Those are all bad options in the article.

 

The number 1 best one is use of Caspian routes to combine Iran oil with Russian oil and sell it to people who think they are buying Russian oil.  Basically destroy the Iranian sanctions, and take a commission while doing it.  Maybe even provide technical assistance to help Iran with its bomb development, tailored to destroy Saudi oil infrastructure with long term radiation that precludes repair for 1000 years.

Number 2 would be support for China's Senkaku Islands claim.

Number 3 would be a gentle reduction in oil and gas flow, raising the price and affecting revenue not at all.

Number 4 would be aid to Venezuela in return for submarine bases.

Number 5, aid to Cuba in return for ownership of all the beach resorts -- cutting out the US firms hoping.

Number 6, replacing US oil firms with PetroChina for drilling in the Arctic.

Number 7, offering to fund a Canadian pipeline from the oil sands direct to the Pacific in return for a modest long term $/barrel of flow return, opening up the Asian market to Canadian oil and thereby elevating its price to the US.

 

And please, don't bother with an #8 blah blah sell oil for gold.  Gold has no function in Russian day to day life.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:34 | 4545671 Herd Redirectio...
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Any pipeline heading west from the oil sands will have to bypass British Columbia (or head to Vancouver, but you can already get there by rail).  Heard it here first.  Alberta's most valuable commodity is oil, BC's is pristine coastal forests.  Locals will not take chances with oil tankers in the straits

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:44 | 4545716 angel_of_joy
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BS ! Those pipelines are being built as we speak.

Have you been at Kitimat, BC recently ?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:47 | 4545732 emersonreturn
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CIO

 

+100

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 21:09 | 4545963 Jorgen
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Number 7, offering to fund a Canadian pipeline from the oil sands direct to the Pacific in return for a modest long term $/barrel of flow return, opening up the Asian market to Canadian oil and thereby elevating its price to the US.

Canada will never go for it or else, the U.S. will have 60, not 50 states...

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:16 | 4545609 ptolemy_newit
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Cruise Russia and Ukraine

Crimea should and is deciding its future based on security!  Russia should and is supporting the east of Ukraine to protect is notational security.  It will never back down from this.

Russia will end up with the industrial east, from Chernihivs’ka , taking Kiev airport (missile batteries and transportation)  and downstream to east of Ukrainka (artillery). 

Continue down the central river systems  to Kremenchuk and Uvileine (more airports goe to Russia).  Follow the water flow to complete control over Zapariz’ka and all the way to taking Kherson, complete the new(old) western Russia.

 

2/3 of Ukraine aligned with Russia, some by election, some by the USUK sanctions that will lead to civil war.  The eventual invasion forced by israeli acts of war.


Fri, 03/14/2014 - 03:19 | 4546823 Kirk2NCC1701
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So... The "International Sanctions" and US "sanctions" against Bibi and his Apartheid regime are now off the table?

How... 'convenient' that greater world 'problems' always gallop to their rescue, every time there is international pressure on them.

European, Americans and Anglos -- 'Christians' -- are so damn stupid and gullibe, when it comes to the ME and Israel. No wonder they look down their noses at us: they don't fucking respect us. But then... How can they, given how we act?

Nothing will change till we dump our "Hippie-God" for a 'God' with... "balls".

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:17 | 4545611 Son of Captain Nemo
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Pushing them into each others arms...

And best of all they are so close being neighbors and such!

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:18 | 4545614 HurricaneSeason
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I think the "Military Budget Cuts" and the "Devastating Boomerang" kind pf rhyme.  I don't think there have been any significant military budget cuts and the boomerang plays right into huge increases. They wouldn't have spent $5 billion in the Ukraine stirring up trouble if there wasn't going to be a significant return on investment. They need world war 3, bombing Peru pr Bolivia once a month for 15 years just isn't going to cut it anymore.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:22 | 4545624 The Alarmist
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Might even be good for "climate change."  They've been looking for reasons to lop off 7.5 billlion of the world's population to stop AGW.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:20 | 4545618 youngman
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This is going to be an interesting weekend...and I hope it does not screw up my St Patricks day party...

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:40 | 4545890 Pure Evil
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It will only screw up your weekend if the local watering hole runs out of green beer and hot Irish chicks.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 00:58 | 4546688 Freddie
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It will only screw up your weekend if the local watering hole runs out of green beer and drunken Irish chicks.

I fixed this for you.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 03:25 | 4546829 Kirk2NCC1701
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You DO realize how ironic your St. Patty's comment sounds?

Now you sound like a real 'Merican consumer: "Don't fucking mess with my Fun!"

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:24 | 4545635 401-Kulak
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Good

Let the Russian oligarchs party and go yachting in China and Iran and India (dont step in the shit on the streets).

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:43 | 4545711 fijisailor
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Clearly you know nothing about the variety of yachting destinations and how different nationalities are treated when they arrive.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:27 | 4545644 401-Kulak
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Is Russia's economy still smaller than California?  And they are going to wag which dog?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:27 | 4545645 Boomberg
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Russia can actively foment trouble in America's backyard if they have the resources, and I don't just mean Cuba. Most of Central and South America have left-leaning or outright socialist governments, with populations that despise the USA. An appropriate tit-for-tat is to militarize and generally raise hell next door, same as the US is doing to Russia. 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:29 | 4545859 nightshiftsucks
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With what money ?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 03:43 | 4546842 ptolemy_newit
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isreali money!

what you think they wont fuck upsouth america to make a buck.  gees what pplanet are you on?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:36 | 4545879 yrbmegr
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They don't have the resources for the global game they would be playing.  They will lose much more than they will gain.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:44 | 4545896 Pure Evil
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The chinese have been doing that for decades using, ahem, money from US consumers.

If we weren't buying their crap they wouldn't have the money to stab us in the back.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:29 | 4545651 Mike in GA
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Don't worry, Crash, Kerry is all over this!  His razor sharp mind and his command of World History (from 1967 forward) is unmatched in the halls of diplomacy worldwide.  If it's thinkable, Kerry thunk it!

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:31 | 4545661 dudeman
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Yea, I don't think Russia and China are gonna end up allying with one another. Neighbors almost always hate each other and if Putin does want to create the Eurasian Union, I don't think China will just sit there while Russia starts gaining influence and natural resources in the region. Eventually, China and Russia will start fighting one another. If things keep continuing on the current path, there's no way China and Russia are gonna be allies.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:46 | 4545713 Runs-With_Toast
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Listen up AMerican, u dont understand how much the world despises your policies, arrogance and Hubris under Bummer and and b 4 him Clintblowjob & shrub II

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:46 | 4545912 Pure Evil
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How dare you speak of Mr. Gravitas in that fashion.

Of course now that Bush's Brain has left he spends most of his time muttering to himself around shrub II.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:53 | 4545942 Winston Churchill
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Don't be naive.

I think Hitler had similar thoughts about Murika and the USSR in 1941.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend makes for strange bedfellows while it remains mutually

beneficial. Sure they will fight AFTER despatching the Great Satan.

Its not just the Iranians characterizing the US as the Great Satan anymore

either.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 03:46 | 4546843 ptolemy_newit
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Rich SOB

reallly do you have a passport?  have you been anywhere?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:32 | 4545665 richsob
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So Russia and China are going to be big fuck buddies.  LMAO.  That's like the Gambino and the Lucchese families swearing undying allegiance to each other.  As bad as the U.S.'s allies appear to be sometimes I wouldn't trade them for what the Russkies and the ChiComs are hanging their hats on.  The Russkies and ChiComs don't HAVE anybody decent backing up their game (and no India and Brazil won't risk their necks if it gets down to the nut crunching).  But, but, but.....they have North Korea, and Syria and Cuba and.........??? on their sides.  Let's hope Putin doesn't over play his hand.  The has got Everybody Loses written all over it.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:40 | 4545698 Runs-With_Toast
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Idiot. My enemies enemy is my friend

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:47 | 4545730 richsob
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Oh wow, dude, how deep!  And clearly you thought that completely through before you wrote it.  NOT.  Think about it some more and see where your "logic" ends up taking you in this situation.  Or go read something historical that explains how game theory is actually affected by old enemies suddenly becoming Best Buddies. 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:56 | 4545766 emersonreturn
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richsob,

 

perhaps you might research Mao and Stalin.  china and russia have worked together before.  the usssa bungled that situation as badly as kerry seems to be now.  and where china may;ve been tempted to the usssa's side due to short sighted, misinformed foriegn relations basically fed the alliance of mao and stalin.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:03 | 4545780 richsob
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Do you even understand how Russia and China ended up going for each other's throats?  How the Russians damn near nuked Lop Nor to keep the Chinese from getting a nuclear weapon?  Or the border skirmishes that went on for nearly 30 years?  They have never been friends.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:14 | 4545814 ptolemy_newit
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China is now an industrial power house with 600 million under 40 years old.  Russia has extensive resources not even looked at in the far east Siberia.  The trade is going east and so will the energy.

America is an island if it did not have the military navy they would be toasted for imports.  It really can’t use its military for anything except piracy of the seas.   If there is a real conflict it will go nuclear pretty fast in many places, hope you not in the northern hemi-sphere?

 

Make you wonder why Google executives move to the southern hemisphere, what do they know from data mining?

 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 22:31 | 4546259 chump666
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Putin once on a roll may have a go at China/Amur River conflict:

The Sino-Soviet border dispute was particularly disturbing since both the USSR and China were now nuclear powers. However, in order to limit the danger of secalation, a tacit bargain was apparently reached that neither side would resort to air power. In the following years, annual rounds of talks were held, all without significant progress. Border provocations occasionally recurred in later years--for example, in May 1978 when Soviet troops in boats and a helicopter intruded into Chinese territory--but major armed clashes were averted.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/prc-soviet.htm

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:44 | 4545907 yrbmegr
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You are correct.  The Russians and Chinese have always been frenemies.  And I know somebody who would love to take a crack at Syria, if we let them.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 01:20 | 4546713 Freddie
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I guess you were not paying attention when Russia had 6 ships between the US Navy and the coast of Syria.  China also moved in a missile cruiser.  Russia has what China wants - a reliable source of oil and nat gas.  They can also buy that oil and gas without using dollars.  Finally, the 5 Mafia crime families had understandings with each other.   You are stupid guy.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:13 | 4547086 flapdoodle
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Characterizing Russia and/or China and/or US and/or EU as mafia is actually right on the money, and similarly shows EXACTLY how its done. The mafia families get along GREAT as long and they show each other respect, and do not step on each others vital interests.

The problem is that Obama's handlers are too stoopid to see that, or have decided they can win a war. Stupid in either case.

 

 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:37 | 4545680 401-Kulak
Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:40 | 4545695 fijisailor
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Why all the focus on weapons system instead of economic warfare?  Time to rally the US into increasing the military budget?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:40 | 4545697 Peter Pan
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As Martin Luther King once said, "we live in an age of guided missiles and misguided men."

Washington was too smart by half in fomenting trouble in Ukraine. Now it thinks it can tell Russia what to do with bluff and blaster.

The only thing to be gained by inducting the Ukraine into Europe is that Greece would go from last place to second last.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 21:00 | 4545962 zionhead101
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Tel-Aviv has stirred a hornets nest with its AIPAC stooges, and $1 billion NAZI skin-head investment from LURCH/HILLARY,

Tel-Aviv has appointed all political leadership  in KIEV as ZIONISTS, me thinks that AZC will now create a UIPAC, that is clear, and UIPAC will take over EUROPE and make the 'EURO' their money tree.

TEL-AVIV did it to America, they can do it to EUROPE.

RUSSIA/CHINA will just watch, and build a wall and keep ZIO-FUCKS at pay, the USA is already dead, they died long ago.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:41 | 4545702 tempo
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US sending lesbian seal 6 team to counter Russian aggression. Also US cancelling Putin's FB and twitter account. Russia pulls $100 billion out of London banks transferring it to China. US cancels China's twitter accounts in response and sends its transgender seal 6 team to Ukraine. We have lots of options.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:50 | 4545754 richsob
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Yea, Russia's going to deposit a shit load of money into China's banks.  Go ahead.  Best idea you've had all day, sport.  Be sure to pick a really strong Chinese bank.  Here's a list of them.  It starts at A and ends at AA.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 21:04 | 4545972 harleyjohn45
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Putin has been riding high in the polls, but Russia is a bankrupt country just like the USA.  In fact all countries are bankrupt, all are living on credit and printing like there is no tomorrow. 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 21:50 | 4546139 chump666
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Hence war. 

Captain Genius 'knows' where the plane went down http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-fligh...

Now with a sh*tload of Chinese military "assets" floating about looking for the  plane, the US sends in a missile destroyer to find the wreckage.  When the thing could be hidden in a jungle somewhere. 

Tensions or what...

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 23:24 | 4546463 nowhereman
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the difference being Russia is aware of it's situation, the USA is not

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:49 | 4545741 chump666
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The Impaler's mini nuke strike plan. http://thebulletin.org/why-russia-calls-limited-nuclear-strike-de-escala...

He has Europe by the balls and is now swinging.  C'mon Germany, make friends with Poland and send 100,000 troops onto the Western side of Ukraine. 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:03 | 4545781 Onthebeach
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Time to brush up on our survival skills … it’s an oldie … but a goodie ….

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKqXu-5jw60

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:04 | 4545783 dragoneyes74
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I know bearish RSI divergences aren't 100% reliable and all, but last Friday's NFP spike put in RSI bearish divergences for the ES on the monthly, weekly, and 4-hour charts.  It also met the pattern of a news related spike that got sold into all day.  I missed shorting it that day, even though this is exactly what I look for, but I believe we may have just entered STFR mode.  Seems a little early seasonally to top out, and I know how pointless it is to expect a top, but I still think you can attribute all of the upside action this year to the months-long big money unwind process.  And I'm sure there will be face-ripping short covering rallies when we get oversold, and it may or may not be worth the emotional turmoil to get short before it becomes obvious, unless you can get a perfect entry like today's touch of that downtrend line, but... all I'm saying is when the final top happens it will look exactly like this.  So I think it's at least worth viewing the price action thru the lens of that possibility until it's proven invalid by new highs that hold, which seems unlikely to me.  If I had the fantasy scenario play out, which NEVER happens, we would have a similar selloff to Jan/Feb sometime soon, and a similar short covering rally in April/May with one last spike to new highs that reverses hard and is obvious to everyone that the party is over.  If only it could be that easy.  

 

 

 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:04 | 4545784 atthelake
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The banksters who own American politicians only purpose has been to steal as much as they can, any way they can, for as long as they can. They don't care about how many millions or billions they slaughter, maim or destroy as long as they get their greedy hands on ALL of it. For more info, go to

paulcraigroberts dot org

survivalblog dot com

Greg Hunter on YouTube

Jim Willie's   goldenjackass dot com  but this one is having site issues

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:30 | 4545861 Lin S
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Survivalblog sucks. 

Rawles believes - seriously - that he and his disciples can make it through some sort of meltdown/reboot living in the Idaho back country with some ISO containers full of canned peaches and an M1A.  Add in his pontificating about racial justice and ad nauseum sermons on "real" Christianity and it's enough to make a rational person vomit. 

The way he writes it sounds as though the thought of collapse gives him a woody.  I'd say he's a scary guy but since he's evidently never heard of drones or Hellfire missiles before and doesn't know how fast his collapse fantasy fails (push a button and it's John Wesley, Dead), he's merely ignorant and creepy.

I avoid him like I do uber-Catholic FerFAL.  These religious zealots scare the heck out of me.

 

 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:14 | 4545813 vjmali
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If Putin is smart which I think he is. He understands that Russia does not need to annex Crimea. He shall keep the request for joining the Russian federation and Russia's acceptance pending allowing Crimea to remain independent with defense alliance like US has with Japan, Taiwan and S Korea. It pays Crimea for its Base instead to Ukraine. That money Crimeans use for trade with Russia. The visible prosperity and independence will motivate other eastern regions for similar arrangement with Russia and Russia achieves all it desires without Annexing any region legally and without war.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:41 | 4545894 yrbmegr
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That would be a smart play.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:33 | 4545822 nightshiftsucks
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Freddie is a stupid fuck,he believes everything he see's on the web and that's why he likes sucking Russian dick,he heard it's the best.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:20 | 4545829 Againstthelie
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It does not seem out of the question that Washington would be forced to consider beefing up its security commitments in Europe.

Since when is Washington in Europe? Oh, I forgot, USrael is a globe.

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