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A Russian Explains The Real Stakes In The Fight For Crimea (And Ukraine)

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By Sergei Markov, posted in The Moscow Times,

Today, as a result of the Ukrainian crisis, U.S.-Russian relations have hit their lowest point since the invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 or of Czechoslovakia in 1969 — or perhaps even since they bottomed out during the Cuban Missile Crisis. The Crimean crisis, which began as a power struggle between the ruling authorities in Kiev and opposition forces, transformed in to an attempt to overthrow Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych by pro-Western and nationalist opposition forces with the support of the U.S. and European Union.

The crisis escalated into a conflict between the U.S. and Russia after the West supported a coup, then lied by violating the Feb. 21 agreement when it recognized the formation of a new and illegitimate government of extremists.

This conflict has the potential of sparking a new Cold War — something I never thought could happen in modern times since I believed it would have to be rooted in ideological differences. Instead, Moscow and Washington have billions of dollars of economic interests at stake, making this a geopolitical rather than an ideological Cold War.

Moscow does not see the revolution in Ukraine as an attempt to create a more democratic or law-based society. Instead, it sees the events in Kiev as an attempt to make Ukraine as anti-Russian as possible. The new government represents a minority of the Ukrainian population. It wants to suppress the Russian-speaking majority and violate their right to representation by holding unfair elections on May 25.

Moreover, U.S. President Barack Obama and German Chancellor Angela Merkel deceived President Vladimir Putin when they pursuaded him to convince Yanukovych to refrain from using force to quell the Maidan, and then to sign the Feb. 21 agreement — which they refused to uphold. Instead, they told Russia to accept the new reality in Ukraine. But why should Moscow accept that reality when it is directed against Russia, democracy and human rights?

What did Russia do to become the focus of so much animosity? Is it because it prevented the West from bombing Syria? Because it persuaded Yanukovych not to sign the Association Agreement — a treaty of little real importance to the EU? Those are trivial reasons for starting a new Cold War.

It seems that the West simply does not like Putin. He is a huge obstacle who prevents them from achieving global hegemony. For this reason alone he must be broken. Nobody in Moscow has any doubt that what happened in Ukraine will be repeated in Moscow in two or three years. Without Putin, there will be few world leaders left who have the power or courage to stand up to Washington. When this happens, the entire world will have to quickly accept the new reality.

Russia is not in Crimea to expand its territory but to oppose the immense power of West and its financial institutions in New York and London. Washington wants to characterize this as a conflict between Moscow and Kiev, thereby forcing Russia to negotiate with an illegitimate regime determined to destroy everything Russian in Ukraine.

However, everyone understands that this is a conflict between Moscow and Washington and that these countries should negotiate a solution. The question here is not Crimea but which reality the two sides are prepared to accept.

Should Moscow allow Washington to force it into humiliating submission and accept the possibility of a violent overthrow of the Putin regime? Or should Washington acknowledge that it can no longer impose its will on others? Both sides are unwilling to admit their weakness, thus making a geopolitical Cold War likely.

The West will hit Russia with economic sanctions to pressure Russian oligarchs into forming a fifth column, just as it did in Ukraine. To avoid this, Moscow will have to force oligarchs to bring their overseas assets back to Russia.

If Washington wins this geopolitical Cold War, it will install a pro-Western government in Moscow which could lead to the breakup of Russia. Siberia, the Caucasus and the Far East will demand autonomy, and the country's oil and gas resources will be transferred from the government to multinational corporations.

However, it is possible that Russia can resist, thereby fulfilling its historical mission of foiling the designs of those who long for world domination. Just as Russia stopped Hitler in the 20th century, Napoleon in the 19th century and Frederick the Great in the 18th century, it will stop Washington in the 21st century. This is nothing personal, just business. Russia has its historical mission to fulfill.

If a geopolitical Cold War erupts, it very well may morph into an ideological one since a Western attack would force Putin to rely heavily on conservative forces in the country's so-called "moral majority" in order to bolster his support. Additionally, Moscow will attempt to relieve pressure and find support abroad by stepping up its information campaign among the hundreds of millions of EU residents who sympathize not only with Putin's stance against Washington, but also his support of the traditional values that have been rejected by the EU elite.

Recent polls show that 80 percent of Germany's population sympathizes with Russian policy in Ukraine and only 8 percent favor sanctions. The online social networks in the West constitute an intellectual revolt against the bias of the mainstream media — all of which demonize Putin without any objectivity. Social network users clearly sympathize with Putin and their support will only grow.

Washington once transformed Cesar Chavez from a minor U.S. activist into a major political figure. Now Washington will transform Putin from his role as the man that lifted Russia off its knees into a global leader in the struggle against the global domination of Washington and the new values of postmodernism.

However, I would like to believe that the current crisis will not develop into a full-fledged geopolitical Cold War. After all, Obama thinks in 21st century terms, not 19th century. For his part, Putin holds many Western convictions. What's more, a geopolitical Cold War would hit Europe the hardest, robbing it of the balanced economic growth it needs and preventing it from consolidating its resources for something more useful. It is now the time for every responsible European leader to speak out against a new Cold War since they have the most to lose.

The way to end this standoff is clear: Ukraine must become a neutral state with a democratic government. It must grant full equality to both its Ukrainian and Russian-speaking citizens, adopt the policy of federalism and make both Ukrainian and Russian official state languages.

 

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Thu, 03/13/2014 - 21:02 | 4545968 messystateofaffairs
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I am neither American nor Russian. I used to view America as the best world defender of freedom (they most likely never were), now its Russia defending the world from a zionist infested America gone totally to shit. Putin really is "leader of the free world" at this time.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 21:03 | 4545969 Doom and Dust
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Never trust anyone who speaks about "the West". Period.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 21:04 | 4545970 QQQBall
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Disintergration and break-ups,,, sometimes USAA, sometimes Putin, sometimes Muzzies and sometimes Christians but as the governments are broken up and regions destabilized, it is easier for the corporations to operate. Debt, Crisis, Givernment Change, Austerity, Privitization, Poverty...

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 21:05 | 4545977 Son of Captain Nemo
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"Should Moscow allow Washington to force it into humiliating submission and accept the possibility of a violent overthrow of the Putin regime? Or should Washington acknowledge that it can no longer impose its will on others? Both sides are unwilling to admit their weakness, thus making a geopolitical Cold War likely."...

Nothing could be further from the truth.  How do you reason conscientiously with a lunatic and a psychopath or in the U.S.'s case (a Nation of lunatics) who are bent on their own self-destruction?

This isn't Putin's or Russia's doing and we have 13 years of catastrophic theft, rape, torture and murder across multiple sovereign Nation(s) that make this point all too clear!

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 21:10 | 4545996 jhm
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"However, it is possible that Russia can resist, thereby fulfilling its historical mission of foiling the designs of those who long for world domination. Just as Russia stopped Hitler in the 20th century, Napoleon in the 19th century and Frederick the Great in the 18th century, it will stop Washington in the 21st century. This is nothing personal, just business. Russia has its historical mission to fulfill."


The Nazis also strongly believed in their and Germany's historical mission for the world as if it were a religious matter. Heroic fanatism and the outlandish belief in the own most sacred superelevation and mission to redeem mankind is what plunges nations into exactly the selfmade abyss in front of which they so proudly linger ...

I severely hope Putin will get what he deserves from history. It's time to get rid of him, along with all that "Holy Mother Russia" crap he so much misuses and the idea that Russia, of all peoples, would be the sole saviour of freedom and liberty. Saw that before with the Germans, did not work at all. But, obviously, ridiculous ideologies never lack of support and never die out.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 23:45 | 4546526 angel_of_joy
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"severely hope" ?

What an idiot. Another brain fart who smoked pot during English hours, in school.

Trolls are so low grade nowadays...

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:09 | 4547311 Random
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I signed up just to junk you for the ignorant comment about weed.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 21:11 | 4546001 Wilcox1
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What are the traditional values that have been rejected by the EU elite and the new values of postmodernism?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 21:11 | 4546004 TrustWho
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I would like Merkle, Cameron and Putin to negotiate a solution. Markov conveniently forgot about the agreement UK, USA and Russia signed in early 90's that guarenteed Ukraine's borders. Any solution must explain how this early 90's agreement is being respected.

The west and western media should also address this truth.....The crisis escalated into a conflict between the U.S. and Russia after the West supported a coup, then lied by violating the Feb. 21 agreement when it recognized the formation of a new and illegitimate government of extremists. Personally, this really pissed Putin and Putin should ask the world's media how can Russia now trust the West. He can NOT trust Obama, but could trust Merkle, I pray.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 05:37 | 4546891 grekko
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Ask any red blooded American (native American, that is) how well the man in DC keeps his side of the treaties.

 

"We thought about these words, Indians Vow to Endeavour to Persevere, for a long time, then we declared war on the Union."

   -Chief Dan George (Josey Wales)

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 21:12 | 4546005 Soul Glow
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He refers to Washington, New York, and London, but not Moscow, instead using Russia.  Maybe he is on to something, maybe his opinion is one sided.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 21:14 | 4546011 Dave
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Putin has his methods. Obama has his. No matter, Victoria Nuland has stated the end result rather succinctly.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 22:33 | 4546274 shovelhead
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Oh that?

Never mind that. It disrupts the narrative.

Inconsequential pillow talk.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 21:14 | 4546016 Ghostmaker
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I guess we see what a lifetime of being feed propoganda does. Same as they do in the USA dailey.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 21:15 | 4546024 kellycriterion
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A little off topic but can you imagine how boring Congress would be without our empire? Well after you've made your pile and qualified for benefits that is. Just repeating the same old sleazy corruption, spiels, rationalizing.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 21:15 | 4546025 22winmag
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I've seen worse summaries of the situation than this one.

 

Now... back to polishing the brass on the Titanic.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 21:20 | 4546040 blindman
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it here stands to be
the beacon of
the twenty first century
,
we may see?
(energy) .....
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anyway poems ^tm.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 21:31 | 4546072 RaceToTheBottom
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The points about the West's financial firms and institutions set the stage for financial escalation.

expect it

look forward to it

prepare for it

stack for it

relish it

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 21:30 | 4546078 tony wilson
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in Donetsk i here some boston strong heavy set back pack types are out and about.

doing the old frank kitson pseudo gang shuffle.

5000 dollars a day cam moron and blair in meetings in israel today funny old world

 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 22:20 | 4546234 Itch
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"funny old world", funny that it's not that funny.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 21:35 | 4546095 sakayama
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All Russia has to do is to its hackers mess up and shutdown the USDA SNAP payment system (plus perhaps the sabotage of a backup storage site) so it take months to rebuild and re-enroll the people.

In 3 weeks you will have Takesha, Trainesha, Alberaneshia and Abelina, along their males, looting whatever the could loot while crying desperation when a camera appears.

In 6 weeks you have Obama leaving the White House aboard Marine 1, De la Rua 2001 style.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 22:14 | 4546220 Itch
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Jesus, this is dangerous journalism, even for a "fringe blog". 

"The Crimean crisis, which began as a power struggle between the ruling authorities in Kiev and opposition forces, transformed in to an attempt to overthrow Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych by pro-Western and nationalist opposition forces with the support of the U.S. and European Union."

It's sad to see this whole crisis spun so carelessly. "Attempted overthrow"...they cant handle the fact he was sent packing, but more importantly, are holding on to the illusion of reinstating him as a dictator, as its his right ("in law"). He's not wanted, the west knew it and capitalized on it, big deal. If Putin wants to convince western populations that they are better of with him, he's free to try. but he already knows the answer. Ukrainians have woken up to the world and want to take a gamble by throwing their lot in with us, who really blames them? Ask all the Russians in the US why they are there, or ask any of them in any part of the world.

 

"The crisis escalated into a conflict between the U.S. and Russia after the West supported a coup, then lied by violating the Feb. 21 agreement when it recognized the formation of a new and illegitimate government of extremists."

This too is largely irrelevant; the seeds of "dissent" were sewn already, and the west hold's all the cards in that respect. We're just to fucking sexy, that's the long and short of it.

 

"Moscow does not see the revolution in Ukraine as an attempt to create a more democratic or law-based society."

Are they taking the piss? Like Russia would have a say in who and who's not democratic, or a "law based society". This propaganda is almost backwards. What does the law mean in Russia? Nothing, never did either, NEVER. In this sense Russia is leaving herself open wide open to a ideological pounding, and not only isolated to the Ukraine incident; when it tries to dance between dictatorship and democracy, it's going to make a fool of itself. Can't win that argument. 

 

"It wants to suppress the Russian-speaking majority and violate their right to representation by holding unfair elections on May 25." 

It's funny, they take the fact that people speak Russian to mean they want to be ruled by a massive twat. I speak English...

 

"But why should Moscow accept that reality when it is directed against Russia, democracy and human rights?"

Mind-blowing; tell it to the Syrians you watch being slaughtered day in, day out, for the sake of Gasprom, and NOTHING more. 

 

"Is it because it prevented the West from bombing Syria?" 

As opposed to what? Assad bombing it, despicable cunt, and the only reason Russia is there is to protect IT'S energy monopoly over Europe and the world, otherwise it wouldn't care less. 

 

"However, everyone understands that this is a conflict between Moscow and Washington and that these countries should negotiate a solution. The question here is not Crimea but which reality the two sides are prepared to accept."

So after laying out that the west

1. Hates Putin,

2. want to breakup Russia and transfer the country's oil and gas resources to multinationals

3. want to infect Russia with the values of postmodernism

4. Sore for not getting a "global hegemony",  

5. Forcing Russia to negotiate with an illegitimate regime  ,

5. Intent on geopolitical dominance,

6 want to suppress the Russian-speaking majority,

6. deceived President Vladimir Putin,

7. Want  to start a cold war,

8. want to force Russia into a humiliating submission,

9. Want to corrupt Russian oligarchs,

10 want to install a pro-Western government in Moscow,

11 Want to feather the caps of the financial institutions in "London & New York"

12 Is sore for not bombing Syria,

13-50 Just read the fucking thing.

 

He states the following;

"Both sides are unwilling to admit their weakness, thus making a geopolitical Cold War likely."

 

Both sides? Did he say both sides? Yes, you heard the guy, he said both sides. Well the Moscow Times does do a good job of sketching out the West's inherent evil, (i don't remember reading anything about Russia's problems though). Another great propaganda coup Tyler,  keep em coming. 

 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 22:33 | 4546277 nowhereman
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Holy shit man, how can you possibly be so misinformed. Wait a minute.  Could it be?

Just maybe, you are some dipshit's aunt making thousands a week on the internet.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 23:04 | 4546401 Itch
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"how can you possibly be so misinformed"

No, i took it all from the article posted above, in which case the question might be how you could be so unfocused? Misinformed is a strong word, it suggests that you believe that people cant think critically and independently regardless of the news sources or information they distill; in my experience, the person leveling that accusation is usually the one suffering the "misinformation", on top of many other ailments,  as they haven't yet fathomed the possibility of opinion. See, saying that people are misinformed, is usually just another way of calling people stupid because they don't see things your way. Yes, that's right, infant. 

Those are my own opinions that i have posted above with the quotes. I have generally kept a close eye on current affairs for most of my life, and i have great faith in my opinion that what is posted above is nothing but war mongering, febrile propaganda lacking all manner of common sense. And when a dickweed like you comes along and tells me im misinformed, i cant help be depressed.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 23:44 | 4546527 Anusocracy
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You do understand that this mess was started by the US and not Russia?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 23:49 | 4546545 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

You do understand that this mess was started by the US and not Russia?

That's not what Itch's comic books tell him. And when he pledges allegiance to the slow motion eagle on television, he feels in his heart that the US is A Global Force For Good®.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 23:59 | 4546572 Itch
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Funny shit, i would mention that i am not within 4000 miles of the US and never have been, but if it would ruin your "he watches a slow motion eagle on TV" joke, i wont bring it up.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 23:45 | 4546532 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

And when a dickweed like you comes along and tells me im misinformed, i cant help be depressed.

Watch more television. It will make everything better again.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 23:54 | 4546555 Itch
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Don't have a TV mate, sorry to disappoint...so while you are busy fighting with a talking box, here i am not giving a flying-fuck. I bet you wouldn't throw it in the bin?  I remember all those years ago the fear i felt at not having a box tell me what to think...what would it mean if i had to face my own opinions and my own mind? The existential dread of it nearly killed me. 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 22:47 | 4546325 shovelhead
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So I guess your OK with Vicky Nuland hiring ultra-neonazi thugs to help get her buddy Yaks, the central banker, in office?

Just checking.

I can smell the 'democracy' from here.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 23:16 | 4546441 Itch
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And you are ok with Alexander Litvinenko being poisoned with polonium 210? You ok with Syria being ethnically clensed and flattened? Yeah, just checking, i can smell the cancer from here. Like their scum are better than our scum.

"Fuck you man, Putin rides bears"  

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 00:28 | 4546627 nathan1234
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You appear to be a sick Zionist stooge

The facts speak for themselves.

I only wonder if you are part of the mainstream media trying to brainwash people.

 

 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 00:43 | 4546663 Itch
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Jesus you people are more confused than any mass media could ever take credit for, all I can do is marvel..

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 06:06 | 4546921 zionhead101
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When the HEAD PRO-ZIONIST of the day is spouting anti-semitism, even I see the light and head for the beer cooler.

Have a nice day guys :)

 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 22:31 | 4546260 whatthecurtains
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I'm fucking sorry but take a hard look at Orange Revolutionary Viktor Yushchenko's face before and after Putin poisoned him with Tetrachlorodibenzodioxin.

Oh wait I forgot, there is no proof Putin did it even though we all know he did just like he poisoned Alexander Litvinenko with Polonium 210.   Who the hell has Polonium 210 sitting around?

What amazes me is how fucking soon people forget this and think Putin is a nice guy.

Ah fuck it.  They all need a Stalin to with a boot on their head to be happy.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 23:39 | 4546513 Anusocracy
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Wow!

You're in possession actual rock-solid absolute proof of that.

Or is it just somebody's claim?

BTW, all government boots are used in the same way.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 22:45 | 4546270 tony wilson
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Jesus, this is dangerous journalism, even for a "fringe blog".

fringe blog

fringe blog

nice one numb nuts

now fuck off back to the huff post nice article on elton john gay adoptions for all.

 

meanwhile paul craig roberts talks

 

Paul Craig Roberts: US is Completely Busted

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhxZxL56B00&list=UUG-G8LLr38fQUNZU8K0t-EA

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 01:28 | 4546724 Itch
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Yeah I got caried away I admit,  I always underestimate the fuckwittery potential in Washington.  Nothing wrong with Elton John adopting babies though. ?.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 06:05 | 4546919 zionhead101
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Yep, Michael Jackson adopted 1,000's of children for Neverland, .. nothing wrong, ... move along.

Sort of like Obama crying about losing his anal virginity at 4 years of age, ... something's never change.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 22:35 | 4546285 daemon
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" .... something I never thought could happen in modern times since I believed it would have to be rooted in ideological differences. "

So you really didn't know ideologies are no more than thin layers of jam ?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 22:56 | 4546369 shovelhead
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Maybe.

But they are awful handy to have around when you want to convince the guys on your side of the fence that it's time for a psychopathic mass murdering spree because someone else has a different one that's a grave danger to yours.

Otherwise you would be considered a dangerous mental case that needs to be locked up...

Instead of a politician.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 23:36 | 4546484 daemon
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".... you would be considered a dangerous mental case ... "

I wonder ...

It seems to me that, sometimes, you would simply be considered as an embarrassingly honest case, for expressing the naked truth about what masses, all too often as psychopatic as their leaders under certain circumstances, really feel.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 23:48 | 4546539 Manipuflation
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So there will be travel restrictions as a part of these "sanctions"?  So now Washington is going to fuck with my children visiting their Russian grandmother?  That's bullshit.  I could give a shit less about Western Europe.  If you start fucking with my family then things change.  These fucking people are evil incarnate.  This is a real shitshow.  I don't fight with the Russians and Ukranians around here.  We are all just shaking our heads.  We are not going to fight in this confrontation.  This is starting to become personal to us all.

I ask about this situation but none of my Russian or Ukrainian friends seem to know what to say.  They are used to this sort of thing bacause they grew up with it.  They do not want to fight each other.  Let them do whatever they want to do.  It's not my business until it starts affecting my family and that appears to be the direction we are heading.

There is a time to fight and there is a time to back out.  Minding one own's business sounds like a good idea to me.  I know who to blame and it is not the Russians or Ukranians but rather ourselves.  I do not know that anything I do on my own will matter much but I don't quit.  I would like to quit but I can't.  I ask you to call your legislators out.  Tell our goverment "NO!".  Call your elected idiots and tell them "NO".  Go to the local meetings and tell them NO there as well.  I know it is weak but the other option is not so good either. 

Our political platform is very simple and it says "NO" to pretty much everything.  You folks have to help me.  It really sucks be alone in these political adventures I get myself into.  Why take my word for it?  Go see for yourself.          

 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 00:40 | 4546655 Aquarius
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@Manipuflaion

You said: "Minding one own's business sounds like a good idea to me."

FYI: The definition of FREEDOM is: Minding one's own business and keeping your hands out of other peoples pockets." At least, it is my definition of Freedom.

And, I did not bring my children into this World to have them go off and kill people that they don't know; nor, to be killed by people that they don't know. I was taught better manners than that as well as respecting all life. However, mileage varies and I see my and mine defense as a sad necessity. Notwithstanding, let those that start the wars, fight the wars.

Good luck and good Post... from the heart.

Ho hum

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 01:43 | 4546740 Manipuflation
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+1 I appreciate your comment Aquarius.  Thank You.         

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 02:47 | 4546795 Philalethian
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Ditto times two to you both.

There will be a fukushima update in 15 minutes on the Rense radio channel with Dr Deagle speaking to the latest fukushima and WIPP info. Check it out here:

http://www.renseradio.com/listenlive.htm

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 07:35 | 4547020 Chuck Knoblauch
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Say no to central bank control.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:42 | 4547499 dizzyfingers
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Manipuflation

You have another choice.  Stop doing anything. Keep a low profile until this blows over. Keep the kids at home, use SKYPE. Eventually the dogs stop barking and then you reinstate "normal".

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 23:54 | 4546544 Aquarius
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 Notice which Nation's have had their economies run into the ground by Economists, Central Bankers and Bankers and of course, obedient political "leaders":

 

USA (Israel governed)

UK

Germany

France

Italy

Israel  (USA funded)

add to this, the broke Ukraine neo-Government with its neo-self appointed Central Banker Prime Minister.

etc.

Look at which Nations above are demanding Nuclear War with Economically Sound Russia.

(Refer to same list as above)

Does anyone  still doubt that there is a direct link between the Banking system and War? If so, read your History, particularly on Wars over the past ~3,000 years, or so. 

http://verbewarp.blogspot.com.au/2011/08/delusional-economics.html

Bankers rule No. #1: When your politician servants, economists and bureaucrats run their territories into the ground due to their incompetence and the banks' need to re-inforce its control over the productive of the World, direct your gophers, those Palaeolithic knuckle-dragging throwbacks that call themseves "leaders" to declare War on some convenient resource rich and unprepared nation so that neo-opportunities and wealth can be directed to our central coffers. This is what we term Bank Global Product (BGP).

Bankers rule No. #2: Banks make profits - Leave the Blood, gore and dying to the fools - as those blood sacrificed, will soon be replaced.

First thing the USA did was airlift the Ukraine's Gold. I have witnessed this before, but it is the norm.

Learning is derived from adversity - and you Grasshoppers are all about to suffer great suffering (Your mileage will vary), so please ensure that you learn your coming lessons well.

Ho hum

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 00:29 | 4546630 doggis
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A W E S O M E!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 01:57 | 4546761 Rock On Roger
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Everyday I awake a lttle bit more.

Thank-you.

 

Stack on

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 02:26 | 4546782 Schmuck Raker
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"The new government represents a minority of the Ukrainian population. It wants to suppress the Russian-speaking majority and violate their right to representation by holding unfair elections on May 25."

Huh?...[well, granted, it's only Wikipedia* based information], yet...

"According to July 2012 polling by RATING 55% of the surveyed adult residents over 18 years of age believed that their native language is rather Ukrainian, 40% - rather Russian, 1% - another language.[13] 5% could not decide which language is their native one.[13] Almost 80% of respondents stated they did not have any problems using their native language in 2011.[13] 8% stated they had experienced difficulty in the execution (understanding) of official documents..."

So.... I'm just a metric-system-denying-American but by my math 40% DOES NOT constitute a MAJORITY.

*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_language_in_Ukraine

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 02:35 | 4546787 Philalethian
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Here is Greg's weekend report just out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE2UwcrT5Qw

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 02:35 | 4546788 Schmuck Raker
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I don't know...

Sergei Markov's opinion on the Crimea, posted in The Moscow Times, should surely be as dubious as anything Krugman has to say about economics, posted to the NY Times.

If it's only perspective then... no, it is still just mostly hogwash.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 04:25 | 4546860 Debugas
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from what i've read here we gonna see an attempt of a coup d'etat in Moscow next year

Navalny, Chodorkovsky comes to mind, any other candidates for the role of russian Yatsenyuk?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 05:15 | 4546878 Joe A
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"If Washington wins this geopolitical Cold War, it will install a pro-Western government in Moscow which could lead to the breakup of Russia. Siberia, the Caucasus and the Far East will demand autonomy, and the country's oil and gas resources will be transferred from the government to multinational corporations."

That has been the plan all along. We have always been a war with Eurasia, over Eurasia. And it could have been won back after the collapse of the SU if they had made the transition of the SU into a market economy wisely. Instead they plunged Russia further into chaos eventually leading to the rise of the oligarchs and Putin. What a mistake to make.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 05:17 | 4546880 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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Funny distribution of up and down arrows today.

Makes you wonder several things.

How's the weather in Langeley today?

Is religion the opiate of the masses?

Ochen interiesna, friends.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 05:42 | 4546895 grekko
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Didn't we sign a treaty with Russia over the Ukraine back in the early 90's? Something about leaving the Ukraine alone?  But then again, ask any red blooded American (native American, that is) how well the man in DC keeps his side of the treaties.

 

"We thought about these words for a long time, Indians Vow to Endeavour to Persevere, then we declared war on the Union."

   -Chief Dan George (Josey Wales)

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 05:45 | 4546897 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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On another note, let's take weapons away from governments, and arm the peeps.

Oh, no there would be massacres!

Even if that hysteria were so, it would be nothing like the massacres we witness perpetrated under guise of government.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 06:00 | 4546913 zionhead101
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Nuke Tel-Aviv and the USA MSM starves from COCK depravation in 24 hours and New World Order Dies, sort of like Dorthy Clicking her  heals.

 

Just fucking Do It.

 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:12 | 4547085 maia
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shooting Politkovskaya and starting two unnecessary wars in Chechnya is 'nothing'? And don't start with that 'hypochrisy' baloney - because someone started an illegal stupid pointless war in my name against my every effort i made does not mean i'm a hypochrite for not supporting all illegal wars fought to win elections at home. There are no alternatives for Russia now, and i don't expect it to lose its one naval base in Crimea (others = frozen most of year, plus concession in Syria looking a tad tenuous) but it's possible to hate Putin and hate the oligarchs more

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:32 | 4547143 dizzyfingers
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Cost of US Wars Cost of U.S. Wars Since 2001 $1,521,282,227,440 See more counters at http://nationalpriorities.org/cost-of/
Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:34 | 4547156 dizzyfingers
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"Say no to central bank control."

MUST STOP USING CREDIT INCLUDING CREDIT CARDS.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:37 | 4547166 dizzyfingers
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grekko "Didn't we sign a treaty with Russia over the Ukraine back in the early 90's? Something about leaving the Ukraine alone?  But then again, ask any red blooded American (native American, that is) how well the man in DC keeps his side of the treaties."

First step to NATO takeover...NATO, TPTB?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:24 | 4547413 Jim in MN
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This has really just been a lovely, lovely thread.

 

God bless you all.

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