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Ukraine Aid Delayed Due To, What Else, Congressional Bickering

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With Russia warning of "boomerangs" and China threatening "unforeseeable consequences" it appears gridlock in Washington is (coincidentally) enabling the US to sit out the first round of shenanigans responses over this weekend's Crimea referendum.

  • *KERRY SAYS `WE NEED AID FOR UKRAINE AND WE NEED IT NOW'

But as AP reports, Congress won't be able to authorize aid to Ukraine until after March 24 amid disagreements among several Republican. Simply put, No Aid For You...

 

Via AP,

Congress won't be able to authorize aid to Ukraine until after March 24 amid disagreements among several Republican.

 

The Senate is unlikely to vote before leaving for recess Thursday evening on a bill approving $1 billion in loan guarantees to Ukraine, sanctions on Russia and International Monetary Fund reforms. Four Republicans backed it as the Foreign Relations Committee voted 14-3 in favor Wednesday.

 

Meanwhile, House Speaker John Boehner urged the Senate anew Thursday to adopt House-approved legislation for the loans, without sanctions or IMF provisions.

 

Many in his caucus reject expanding the IMF's lending capacity, which every other major country has approved.

 

They say it increases U.S. taxpayer exposure; the counterargument is it immediately releases money for Ukraine.

 

Other Republicans oppose paying for the loans with unused military money.

Of course, the timing is perfect for the administration to look like they are moving forward and yet not... actually avoiding the sanctions that will likely come back to bite.

It seems, however, Ukraine's Yatsenyuk thinks it's a done-deal...

Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseny Yatsenyuk has met with the top three figures in the U.S. House of Representatives - Speaker John Boehner, majority leader Republican Eric Cantor and minority leader Nancy Pelosi - during a working visit to the United States.

 

"The American lawmakers made assurances of their intention to consolidate bipartisan efforts for giving urgent and long-term assistance to Ukraine and its government for urgent reforms. They pointed out that safeguarding the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Ukraine is a matter of principle for the House of Representatives," the Ukrainian government said in a statement.

 

Yatsenyuk expressed hope that the United States would soon legalize a quota redistribution that would enable Ukraine to obtain an extra $600 million.

American "promises" and political "principles"?

 

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Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:44 | 4544217 lolmao500
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http://twitter.com/L0gg0l

Kerry just said that there "contingencies" in place if Russia moves into E.Ukraine. So, in other words: the military option is on the table

This will end soooooooooo well...

Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseny Yatsenyuk has met with the top three figures in the U.S. House of Representatives - Speaker John Boehner, majority leader Republican Eric Cantor and minority leader Nancy Pelosi - during a working visit to the United States.

The top 3 traitors in congress...

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:47 | 4544239 jcaz
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Fuck you, Kerry- you want to give them money, get our your wife's checkbook.....

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:52 | 4544261 Pure Evil
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Come on, its all theater. The US can do nothing but sputter and rant bitterly like an old man getting his diaper changed in a nursing home.

Putins reply: No soup for you!

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:59 | 4544303 Oh regional Indian
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What kind of people enjoy beggering entire nations?

Very heartless, this debt bondage play....

 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:07 | 4544353 Keyser
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Kerry can go screw himself. More aid $$$ which we don't have will be funnelled directly to Russia, all on the taxpayer's back. 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:15 | 4544408 Headbanger
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NO SOUP FOR YOU!    FOR YEAR!!

 

Had to say it

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:20 | 4544432 max2205
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Check reads PAY TO RUSSIA VIA UKRAINE.....

what a joke

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:44 | 4544455 BaBaBouy
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Fri, 03/14/2014 - 07:47 | 4547043 N2OJoe
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How about they pay their own damn debts?

Or let EU bail them out.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 16:21 | 4544729 666
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We can print $75B each month and give it to the banksters, but $1B for Ukraine "increases US taxpayer's exposure."

Need I say anything more?

Sheesh!

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:07 | 4544355 medium giraffe
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It's the American Way.  Follows the British model.  And the Roman.  Reliable though.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 19:38 | 4545685 Buck Johnson
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Exactly!!!!!!!

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:55 | 4544288 McMolotov
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"I want it now! I want cake now!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PofNl3yQchs

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:16 | 4544416 drinkin koolaid
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Or at least send them a couple cases of ketchup.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:20 | 4544431 Ironmaan
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Why the fuck would we give them aid to pay their bills when the money they owe is to russia. How fucking stupid is that??

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:02 | 4544323 holmes
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I thought the headline would finish "delayed due to cold weather".

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:42 | 4544220 symtex411
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The neo-cons don't want aid they want Russia to "invade" so they can respond how they would really like to with bombs not bonds.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:48 | 4544248 Omegaman2211
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I prefer neither.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:43 | 4544223 masterinchancery
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More bickering please!!

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:45 | 4544232 McMolotov
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Kerry plagiarizing fucking J.G. Wentworth. Shit's getting epic.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:04 | 4544333 knukles
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Not to worry, it's not over until the fat lady sings.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:07 | 4544356 HardlyZero
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At some point...will Kerry whip out his medal and start yelling about his experience(s) ?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:05 | 4544346 HamRove
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Yes, more bickering, more infighting and indecision please. String it out as long as possible.

A) All of the USAID will go to Russia any way...That was reported a few days ago

B) Even if the Ukraine did get it, it is going to a bunch of Nazis.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:12 | 4544387 29.5 hours
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I guess Congress will do it as a transfer payment...

3 Billion Aid to Ukraine Goes to Russia

 

 

 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:23 | 4544442 Pure Evil
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I guess it would be a payoff to keep the Russians from going all the way to Berlin once again.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:50 | 4544224 HardlyZero
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and...won't most the aid be used to pay(off) Russia ?

So really it is a payoff of some sort to not attack Ukraine ?

Will Russia attack anyway (i.e. win-win for Putin and Putin's Ukraine) ?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:59 | 4544284 AlaricBalth
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To quote Arthur Jensen from Network:
"What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils of state -- Karl Marx? They get out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, minimax solutions, and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments, just like we do."

War is nothing more than a transaction between the willing or unwilling . A movement carried out between parties to obtain or retain an asset.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:00 | 4544310 Uncle Remus
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So - bidness as usual.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:13 | 4544386 HardlyZero
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CNBC...business.   Special senior clause in Russian $3B loan to Ukraine.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101491011

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:15 | 4544404 AlaricBalth
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Yup. I am sure the Russians, as well as the US have gamed out a cost-benefit analysis using the following inputs.

List alternative projects/programs.
List stakeholders.
Select measurement(s) and measure all cost/benefit elements.
Predict outcome of cost and benefits over relevant time period.
Convert all costs and benefits into a common currency.
Apply discount rate.
Calculate net present value of project options.
Perform sensitivity analysis.
Adopt recommended choice.

War is business

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 16:03 | 4544650 Oh regional Indian
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Those are both great comments/observations AB...insightful....and a little chilling...

ori

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:44 | 4544225 BeetleBailey
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Kerry...you need a fucking BRAIN pal...

As for the asswipes in CONgress, they twittertwatted about climate change all night the other night...they're too tired and sleeping in thier Garanimals to care about the fucking YOU-Crane

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:48 | 4544235 HardlyZero
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I've read lately the warm greenhouse gases are stronger than the most potent weapons...the warm gases are worse than war !

Amazingly deep dive for pearls.

Looks like Gold and short stocks is good going into the weekend.

Next week might be difficult.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:00 | 4544301 Pure Evil
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Speaking of gases a recent study has shown the when people pee in a chlorinated pool the uric acid in piss combines with the chlorine to produce a neurotoxin cocktail of two gasses.

"Not only do you make a nerve toxin, you make another toxin that’s known to be tear gas, .... You pee in a pool, and you essentially turn it into a weapon of mass destruction."

So my advice for Obama and Kerry is to set a new new red line and threaten to pee in Putin's pool if the Russians don't back off.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:04 | 4544335 Uncle Remus
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Why would anyone need more than a seven gallon pool anyway?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:07 | 4544358 nodhannum
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No soup for you pure evil.  Humans and most or all mammals excrete urea NOT uric acid.  Reptiles and birds excrete uric acid to save water as it crystallizes at 10-6 molar concentration.  That's the reason birds can hatch their young from eggs without them being poisoned as the uric acid precipitates out in the albumin and never gets concentrated.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:14 | 4544402 Pure Evil
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Maybe you should actually go read the article which I quote,

"Researchers found that when uric acid—a compound in our urine—combines with chlorine, the result is two potentially dangerous chemical byproducts."

So there.

Nanner Nanner!

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 16:31 | 4544776 John_Coltrane
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The article is a lightweight fluff piece.  The pH of human urine is between 5-8, hardly acidic.  Urea is the main component, not urice acid.  Urea = (NH2)2CO.  Uric acid is caused only by the breakdown of purine in the the body, is an aromatic compound, and has the formula C5H4N4O3.   

Furthermore unless you are sick and have kidney stones you won't have any signficiant amount in your urine which is mostly water. In general, the water solubilitity of uric acid and its alkali metal and alkaline earth salts is rather low (in other words not found in liquid form in urine). All these salts exhibit greater solubility in hot water than cold, allowing for easy recrystallization. This low solubility is significant for the etiology of gout. 

So, if you're peeing uric acid worry about gout and kidney stones, not reaction with chlorine to form a nerve gas.  Only fools get their science info from newspapers.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:16 | 4544403 HardlyZero
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it is a funded study and its on the news now.    Pee in chlorinated pool, warm gases, warm winds...all worse than war !

It seems we are starting to expand the pond size...starting small.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:11 | 4544382 holmes
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Don't we have to borrow the money first from China before we can send it to the Ukraine?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:17 | 4544419 HardlyZero
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No...first give Gold to China.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:24 | 4544443 Freddie
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Kerry is a dual citizen like Cantor and the new illegal PM of illegal Ukraine Yak-Zio or whatever his name is.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:44 | 4544228 sfisher
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Perhaps our leaders want to dip into their own pockets and front a bit of aid.  

I guess it is better to let our children provide the aid!

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:44 | 4544230 Newfie
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Bombs = everyone loses.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:44 | 4544231 chaartist
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all for the good of poor people..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV6avInO8Fk

 

 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:46 | 4544234 IridiumRebel
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"You'll get nothing and like it."

-Judge Smails

 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:33 | 4544498 Greenskeeper_Carl
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its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, nd youve got the stock market beat, but the man worth while, is that man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:46 | 4544237 kito
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not only has china and india expressed dissatisfaction with the u.s. stance on ukraine, brazil isnt too happy about jumping on the ukraine bandwagon:

 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-07/brazil-s-imf-director-urges-lender-not-to-bend-rules-for-ukraine.html

 

anybody else feel those winds of change blowing??????

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:28 | 4544470 Urban Redneck
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Boner is lyin' his ass off (as usual) 

The IMF thing isn't (primarily) about increased lending capacity.

It's about quotas & voting power (and the G7 surrendering some IMF power to the G20-7)

 

i.e. handing another victory to Russia, China, Brazil, et al. in the midst of the Ukraine clusterfuck.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 20:35 | 4545875 klockwerks
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Urban, thank you for bringing that out. I am surprised that a lot more ZH readers did not jump on this. If O gets his way and they attach that 2010 bill to this aid package we can kiss our country goodbye. We agree with that attachment the US dollar is toast. We would then be at every whim of the BRIC countries. I think we are toast anyway as they, (BRIC and IMF have decided that if congress does not pass that 2010 bill, they will go around us and do it anyway. They think we owe to much money, imagine that! ZH readers, please do yourself a favor and study up on what they want to do. Your financial futures depend on it. If you wanted to destroy the U.S. and bring us down to a 3rd world country, this would be it

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:47 | 4544240 Dr. Engali
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Stupid fuckers. How about spending a billion dollars on the roads here?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:27 | 4544463 Winston Churchill
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Shovel ready union jobs ?

They could spend a billion ,but by the time its gone thru' their cronies, of one type or another,

we get the roads we have now, or worse.

Anyways the Romans had good roads,didn't help them much.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:47 | 4544242 bankonzhongguo
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Aid for Ukraine to be paid to military contractors, banking "experts" and EU huksters living in Zurich and Alexandria.

This is what happens when you get rid of your nukes.

These comments would be different if at least some Amerikans were getting a piece of the action.

Instead they are all queued up at Walmart in Modesto and soon to be Kyiv.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:48 | 4544246 royal
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It's Ukraine's money and they need it now!

Call J. Kerry Wentworth at 1-800-screw-you

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:48 | 4544247 TheSkipper1967
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Its all fun and games until someone gets hurt. 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:59 | 4544305 rtalcott
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No, it's still fun and games as long as the people pulling the strings don't get hurt.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:19 | 4544340 HardlyZero
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ahhh...running with sharp open IMFr's.   Very dangerous.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:49 | 4544253 Peter Pan
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The US can"t hand over any money but I bet it is already funnelling equipment, guns, intelligence and advisers to the so called Ukranian government.

In any case, perhaps they do not want to throw more money on a losing proposition.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:10 | 4544370 jtg
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You can bet on it.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:54 | 4544265 Debugas
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meanwhile russia is concidering relocating 9 mobile powerstations from Sochi to Crimea (each weighing 150 tons and producing up to 22.5 MWatts of electricity)

they plan on using AN-124 "Ruslan" planes to fetch the cargo

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=...

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:52 | 4544597 SmittyinLA
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Bulllish for Ukraine Solar !

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 17:26 | 4545091 No Euros please...
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But it's impossible to carry that sort of weight by plane, it would take at least 7 years. Ask Germany.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:52 | 4544271 Chupacabra-322
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Worth me Reposting:

The most important story surrounding unfolding events in the Ukraine is not the violent overthrow of the freely-elected Ukrainian government. It is not the American participation in that overthrow or the Russian reaction to it. No, the big story is much more ominous. The big story is that all major U.S. politicians, regardless of party, and all "news" media outlets, electronic and print, are deliberately lying to the American people about this event. How can this be?

Euripides is often wrongly credited with saying, "Those whom the Gods wish to destroy they first make mad!" Psychosis has been described as a mental state involving a "loss of contact with reality". That perfectly describes the Washington establishment's demonstrated state of mind with regard to events in the Ukraine. Both the "Democrat" (socialist) wing and the "Republican" (neo-Fascist) wing of the U.S. political apparatus and their respective propaganda arms are frantically hammering out the same fantastic and utterly false version of events in the Ukraine.

The effort to paint Russia as the aggressor and Putin as an incipient Hitler has reached a fever pitch. Unfortunately for the U.S. and its allies, the facts on the ground are simple, indisputable, and well known to all credible observers. The Ukraine rejected a proposed trade agreement with the European Union in favor of a competing (and superior) agreement with Russia. In retaliation, the United States organized, funded, and directed the overthrow of the freely-elected government of Viktor Yanukovich and stood up an unconstitutional and completely illegal government" in its place, killing dozens of people in the process. That Mr. Yanukovich is corrupt may well be true. Whether he is any more corrupt than the gang of professional thieves and liars that infests the halls of power in Washington is at least arguable.

In any case, Washington's Putsch employed a mix of anti-Russian Ukranian ultra-nationalists (the "Right Sector"), local neo-Nazis (Svoboda), CIA operatives, American Blackwater/Xe/Academi mercenaries, and NGO staffers from the National Endowment for Democracy (including the execrable John McCain's "International Republican Institute") as boots on the ground to get the job done. The bottom line: it is the government of the United States that is and has been nterfering in the internal affairs of the Ukraine and it is the government of the United States that bears direct responsibility for igniting the current "crisis".

The importance of what is happening goes beyond events in the Ukraine and should send a chill of apprehension down the spines of all who love liberty. Two aspects in particular should capture the attention of the observer:

1. The absolute unanimity on the "official" and totally false narrative that is being drummed incessantly into the public consciousness. Despite the "Left" vs, "Right" division that supposedly defines the American political landscape, news outlets from Fox News to CNN to MSNBC to the old line broadcast networks and print media organs from the Washington Times and the editorial pages of The Wall Street Journal to The Washington Post and The New York Times are frantically pushing the same false "Russian aggression" line in lock step.

2. The transparent and blatant falseness of the narrative. Why persist in this obvious lie when anyone who pays the slightest attention to current events knows
that the "official narrative" is false? The casual display of contemptuous arrogance is stunning.

The answer is simple. The West's Welfare/Warfare states are collapsing before our eyes. The establishment is losing its grip on power and filled with fear. A serious new diversion is required to maintain power. The prospect of World War looms, a war that will serve as justification for the totalitarian dictatorship which is but a pen stroke away. The structural groundwork has long since been laid. All that is required is a suitable ignition point.

IMHO, We must be prepared.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:06 | 4544352 jtg
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Thank you for re-posting it. Your answer at the end is correct, that the West is in a super debt end-cycle ongoing collapse and the US is trying desperately to keep the Welfare/Warfare State show going. As we get closer to the end of this cycle the West will strike out with increasing desperation.

There are actually two titanic cycles at play: the above ending cycle of Western hegemony and the beginning cycle of the shift of world power from West to East. The transfer of world power in the 1930's from the UK to the US was almost seamless, but the transfer of world power from the US backed West to the East is likely to be very violent. The US is showing its desperation in Ukraine.

 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:35 | 4544482 Chupacabra-322
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The following comparisons can be made of The Criminal UNITED STATES, CORP. INC.

Persian empire at its time, strongest, richest….falls.
Roman Empire at its time, strongest, richest…falls.
Portuguese Empireat its time, strongest, richest….falls.
Spanish Empire at its time, strongest, richest….falls.
Dutch Empire at its time, strongest, richest….falls.
British Empire at its time, strongest, richest….falls.
French Empire at its time, strongest, richest….falls.
German Empire at its time, strongest, richest….falls.
Italian Colonial Empire at its time, strongest, richest….falls.
Russian Empire at its time, strongest, richest….falls.
Soviet Union at its time, strongest, richest….falls.
American empire at its time, strongest, richest….who said it gets a get-out of jail pass?

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men,
living together in society,
they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it."
Frederic Bastiat, (1801-1850)

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:10 | 4544367 Pure Evil
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Not to ride your coattails, but....

the Republicans are the National, while the Democrats are the Socialists in the

      National Socialist Workers Party.

      The new new Neo-Nazi party.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 16:49 | 4544865 John_Coltrane
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"That Mr. Yanukovich is corrupt may well be true."

May be true?  Come on.  Putin is a corrupt dictator and ex-KGB agent and Yanukovich stole billions before his departure.  No freedom loving person can side with either.  Ukranians hate Yanukovich, even those Russian speaking ones in the Crimea.  Its sickening to see some commentors (not you) defend these fascists.

Those facts are undisputed.  The fact that the West uses Welfare and sometime warfare to pile up debt and thus enrich banksters is a true and orthogonal fact which doesn't negate the other truth.  We need to butt out of other people's business.  And that includes .gov.  Control freaks come in all nationalities and races.  Putin (and Obama) are both sick narcistic fucks!  (Try saying that in Russia!)  The fact that Obama digs guys (Bathhouse Barry) and Putin hates fags doesn't change that fact either)

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 18:38 | 4545424 robertocarlos
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Putin earned his $40 billion fair and square. He's at least as hard working as Gates or Buffet. You can only get rich from working hard and being smart.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:53 | 4544276 john milton
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vixslam, vixslam, grandslam, gangbang, damn...!!!!

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 14:56 | 4544289 GolfHatesMe
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Picture is freaking funny! 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:00 | 4544306 Itchy and Scratchy
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I think it's adorable how they pretend they ain't broke!

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:00 | 4544307 Tracerfan
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Eric Cantor wants to give money to a neo-Nazi regime whose members revere Jewish-mass-murderer Stepan Bandera and whose supporters wear "Beat the Kike" t-shirts?

What a F*ing tool. 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 18:35 | 4545404 robertocarlos
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And said group is being aided by ex Israeli snipers. I guess the payoff at the end, when the Nazis are pushed aside by the other Nazis, is worth a few innocent, Jews included, lives.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:02 | 4544322 monad
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Fuck eyou, Kerry

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:04 | 4544330 monad
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Loyd want his money, Barry. You know what happen when Loyd don't get his money on time. 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:10 | 4544372 lasvegaspersona
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thank god for....gridlock...

Without gridlock Obama might decide he can do what ever he wants.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:12 | 4544376 atthelake
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If America loans/gives Ukraine money, sooner or later, the corrupt US/IMF will want something in return. It will probably be the pensions/bank accounts of the poor. That way, the banksters who initiated this will have Ukraine's wealth while the peasants are forced into austerity. That was always the plan.

Ukraine's gold is, reportedly, in America for "safe-keeping". And that's only the beginning.

Our turn is coming. If you can, STOCK UP, NOW on food, drink, meds, organic seeds and supplies.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:13 | 4544393 Itchy and Scratchy
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QE III,  QE III,  QE III!!!!!!!!

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:21 | 4544436 HardlyZero
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Will Yellen appear and denounce the Putin' put, while fresh fiat erupts from every orifice ?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:13 | 4544396 Notsobadwlad
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Ummm ... maybe George Soros, Israel or the UK should take the lead on money for the Ukraine.

Whys does it have to be the US?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:23 | 4544440 HardlyZero
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For last few weeks been reading Soros is short the markets and EU...makes sense now.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:37 | 4544518 assistedliving
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we 'protect' the sea lanes; Russia is protecting her gas lanes.  its all about Energy.  why on earth we should bail out GS, DB and SBER and the mafioso is beyond me.  For all our posturing its a Euro problem.  let them solve it. 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:53 | 4544565 lasvegaspersona
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Gold has been rising in price. Most would say 'duh, it is a 'instability' play. But that was in the olden days when gold meant physical. Today it means that paper currency is being traded in favor of paper gold. It is almost entirely a Forex market phenomenon. It means that some currency is being sold while XAU is being bought. The dollar is down but I cannot imagine the USA supporting the paper gold price....unless it is to get the price up a bit to keep physical flowing. If physical gold does not flow it is curtains for the dollar....and there isn't much physical gold available to flow. GLD is half gone and the Comex...what Comex.

We could be getting close to a critical point in the gold market. It can still be fun and profitable to short gold paper and a drop should surprise no one. It does make me wonder why we are seeing this current uptick in price. Recent history would suggest that those who profit by low gold prices would have acted already. It is definitely not related to accumulation of physical as that is less than 1% of today's 'gold' market.

I am open to suggestions. Why is the POG rising....and please don't say China, their accumulation in the past 5 years (est 5 to 10k tons) is not enough to cause this rise with over 1000 tons per day of paper gold traded.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:47 | 4544570 SmittyinLA
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Putin lobby 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:53 | 4544601 F.A. Hayek
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And the US is contemplating giving money to the Ukraine why? Aren't we out of money ourselves?

 

PS, fuck you Lurch. See you yachting in Nantucket sound this summer you fucking debutante.

 

 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 15:56 | 4544619 Pumpkin
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They could just send their nukes back.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 16:19 | 4544722 Hobbleknee
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Why doesn't our lord and savior just make an executive order if it's so important?

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 16:36 | 4544791 Inspector Bird
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Ukraine is weak!

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzLtF_PxbYw

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 16:56 | 4544894 Canucklehead
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I surmise Obama has cut a deal with Putin to "allow" Crimea to join with Russia.  Part of the deal is no movement in other parts of the Ukraine.  Only that area ceded in 1954 is going back.

What we have now is a mexican standoff while both sides determine whether they can trust the other.  In that environment, inaction is paramount.

Expect a lot of bluff and bluster as nothing is done.

In the short term. the Ukrainians won't be getting any significant aid from anyone.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 17:43 | 4545194 Ifigenia
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"The Senate is unlikely to vote before leaving for recess Thursday evening on a bill approving $1 billion in loan guarantees to Ukraine, sanctions on Russia and International Monetary Fund reforms."

 

Does anybody knows why IMF reforms must link with sanctions on Russia and loan to Ukraine? I would like to know if it is not some con businesses there.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 18:35 | 4545403 Atomizer
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Idle IMF threat that will reinforce their meaningless purpose in life. 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 18:29 | 4545387 Atomizer
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Kerry needs a billion by Monday. Another US bluff will be displayed. Monday will come and go without incident. Kerry may have to stomp on a ketchup pack to get someone's attention. Squirt. 

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 18:40 | 4545433 robertocarlos
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It looks like blood.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 18:34 | 4545399 Amagnonx
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Need some coin to prop up the bunch of thugs they backed for the coup - I wonder if someone is really balking - I dont doubt the US and EU are flying in weapons anyway .. as if they needc congressional approval.

 

Congressional approval is just a way of warming up the PR .. making the Ukraine govt look legitimate, and making a light advance towards direct military involvement.

Thu, 03/13/2014 - 18:49 | 4545476 gosh
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Is that enough money?  Seems they need a lot more

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