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Fourth Turning: The People Vs. Big Brother

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Submitted by Jim Quinn of The Burning Platform blog,

“The risk of catastrophe will be very high. The nation could erupt into insurrection or civil violence, crack up geographically, or succumb to authoritarian rule. If there is a war, it is likely to be one of maximum risk and effort – in other words, a total war. Every Fourth Turning has registered an upward ratchet in the technology of destruction, and in mankind’s willingness to use it.” 

– Strauss & Howe - The Fourth Turning


“In the need to develop a capacity to know what potential enemies are doing, the United States government has perfected a technological capability that enables us to monitor the messages that go through the air. Now, that is necessary and important to the United States as we look abroad at enemies or potential enemies. We must know, at the same time, that capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left such is the capability to monitor everything—telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn’t matter. There would be no place to hide.

If this government ever became a tyrant, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of this technology.

I don’t want to see this country ever go across the bridge. I know the capacity that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see to it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return.”Frank Church on Meet the Press regarding the NSA – 1975

Ever since Edward Snowden burst onto the worldwide stage in June 2013, I’ve been wondering how he fits into the fabric of this ongoing Fourth Turning. This period of Crisis that arrives like clockwork, 60 to 70 years after the end of the previous Fourth Turning (Civil War – 66 years after American Revolution, Great Depression/World War II – 64 years after Civil War, Global Financial Crisis – 62 years after World War II), arrived in September 2008 with the Federal Reserve created collapse of the global financial system. We are now five and a half years into this Fourth Turning, with its climax not likely until the late-2020’s. At this point in previous Fourth Turnings a regeneracy had unified sides in their cause and a grey champion or champions (Ben Franklin/Samuel Adams, Lincoln/Davis, FDR) had stepped forward to lead. Thus far, no one from the Prophet generation has been able to unify the nation and create a sense of common civic purpose. Societal trust continues to implode, as faith in political, financial, corporate, and religious institutions spirals downward. There is no sign of a unifying regeneracy on the horizon.

The core elements of this Fourth Turning continue to propel this Crisis: debt, civic decay, global disorder. Central bankers, politicians, and government bureaucrats have been able to fashion the illusion of recovery and return to normalcy, but their “solutions” are nothing more than smoke and mirrors exacerbating the next bloodier violent stage of this Fourth Turning. The emergencies will become increasingly dire, triggering unforeseen reactions and unintended consequences. The civic fabric of our society will be torn asunder.    

In retrospect, the spark might seem as ominous as a financial crash, as ordinary as a national election, or as trivial as a Tea Party. The catalyst will unfold according to a basic Crisis dynamic that underlies all of these scenarios: An initial spark will trigger a chain reaction of unyielding responses and further emergencies. The core elements of these scenarios (debt, civic decay, global disorder) will matter more than the details, which the catalyst will juxtapose and connect in some unknowable way. If foreign societies are also entering a Fourth Turning, this could accelerate the chain reaction. At home and abroad, these events will reflect the tearing of the civic fabric at points of extreme vulnerability – problem areas where America will have neglected, denied, or delayed needed action.” – The Fourth Turning – Strauss & Howe


The core crisis element of debt is far worse than it was at the outset of this Crisis in September 2008. The National Debt has risen from $9.7 trillion to $17.5 trillion, an 80% increase in five and half years. It took 215 years for the country to accumulate as much debt as it has accumulated since the start of this Crisis. We continue to add $2.8 billion a day to the National debt, and the president declares it is time for this austerity to end. The total unfunded liabilities of the Federal government for Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, government pensions and now Obamacare exceeds $200 trillion and is mathematically impossible to honor. Corporate debt stands at an all-time high. Margin debt is at record levels, as faith in the Federal Reserve’s ability to levitate the stock market borders on delusional. Consumer debt has reached new heights, as the government doles out subprime auto loans to deadbeats and subprime student loans to future University of Phoenix Einsteins. Global debt has surged by 40% since 2008 to over $100 trillion, as central bankers have attempted to cure a disease caused by debt with more debt.

All of this debt accumulation is compliments of Bernanke/Yellen and the Federal Reserve, who have produced this new debt bubble with their zero interest rate policy and quantitative easing that has driven their balance sheet from $935 billion of mostly Treasury bonds in September 2008 to $4.2 trillion of toxic mortgage garbage acquired from their owners – the insolvent Too Big To Trust Wall Street banks. This entire house of cards is reliant upon permanently low interest rates, the faith of foreigners in our lies, and trust in Ivy League educated economists captured by Wall Street. This debt laden house of cards sits atop hundreds of trillions of derivatives of mass destruction used by the Wall Street casinos to generate “riskless” profits. When, not if, a trigger ignites this explosive concoction of debt, the collapse will be epic and the violent phase of this Fourth Turning will commence.

Civic Decay

The core crisis element of civic decay is evident everywhere you turn. Our failed public educational system is responsible for much of the civic decay, as a highly educated critical thinking populace is our only defense against a small cabal of bankers and billionaires acquiring unwarranted influence and control over our country. Our children have been taught how to feel and to believe government propaganda. The atrocious educational system is not a mistake. It has been designed and manipulated by your owners to produce the results they desire, as explained bluntly by George Carlin.

“There’s a reason that education sucks, and it’s the same reason it will never ever ever be fixed. It’s never going to get any better, don’t look for it. Be happy with what you’ve got. Because the owners of this country don’t want that. I’m talking about the real owners now, the big, wealthy, business interests that control all things and make the big decisions. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want; they want more for themselves and less for everybody else. But I’ll tell you what they don’t want—they don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That’s against their interest.”

The urban ghettos become more dangerous and uninhabitable by the day. The inner cities are crumbling under the weight of welfare spending and declining tax revenues. The very welfare policies begun fifty years ago to alleviate poverty have hopelessly enslaved the poor and ignorant in permanent squalor and destitution. The four decade old drug war has done nothing to reduce the use of drugs. It has benefited the corporate prison industry, as millions have been thrown into prison for minor drug offenses. Meanwhile, millions more have been legally addicted to drugs peddled by the corporate healthcare complex. The culture warriors and advocates of new rights for every special interest group continue their never ending battles which receive an inordinate amount of publicity from the corporate media. Class warfare is simmering and being inflamed by politicians pushing their particular agendas. Violence provoked by race and religion is growing by the day. The fault lines are visible and the imminent financial earthquake will push distress levels beyond the breaking point. Once the EBT cards stop working, all hell will break loose. Three days of panic will empty grocery store shelves and the National Guard will be called out to try and restore control.  

Global Disorder

The core crisis element of global disorder is evident everywhere you turn. The false flag revolution in the Ukraine, initiated by the U.S. and EU in order to blunt Russia’s control of natural gas to Europe, has the potential to erupt into a full blown shooting war at any moment. The attempt by Saudi Arabia, Israel and the U.S. to overthrow the Syrian dictator in order to run a natural gas pipeline across their land into Europe was blunted by Russia. Iraq is roiled in a civil war, after the U.S. invaded, occupied and destabilized the country. After 12 years of occupation, Afghanistan is more dysfunctional and dangerous than it was before the U.S. saved them from the evil Taliban. Unrest, violent protests, and brutal measures by rulers continue in Egypt, Turkey, Thailand, Venezuela, Bahrain, Brazil, and throughout Africa. American predator drones roam the skies of the world murdering suspected terrorists. The European Union is insolvent, with Greece, Spain, Italy and Portugal propped up with newly created debt. Austerity for the people and prosperity for the bankers is creating tremendous distress and tension across the continent. A global volcanic eruption is in the offing.

It is clear to me the American Empire is in terminal decline. Hubris, delusion, corruption, foolish disregard for future generations and endless foreign follies have set in motion a chain of events that will lead to a cascading sequence of debt defaults, mass poverty, collapsing financial markets, and hyperinflation or deflation, depending on the actions of feckless bankers and politicians. There is no avoiding the tragic outcome brought on by decades of bad choices and a century of allowing private banking interests to control our currency. The “emergency” QE and ZIRP responses by the Federal Reserve to the Federal Reserve created 2008 financial collapse continue, even though the propaganda peddled by the Deep State tries to convince the public we have fully recovered. This grand fraud cannot go on forever. Ponzi schemes no longer work once you run out of dupes. With societal trust levels approaching all-time lows and foreign countries beginning to understand they are the dupes, another global financial crisis is a lock.

The Snowden Factor

With ten to fifteen years likely remaining in this Fourth Turning Crisis, people familiar with generational turnings can’t help but ponder what will happen next. Linear thinkers, who constitute the majority, mistakenly believe things will magically return to normal and we’ll continue our never ending forward human progress. Their ignorance of history and generational turnings that recur like the four seasons will bite them in the ass. We are being flung forward across the vast chaos of time and our existing social order will be transformed beyond recognition into something far better or far worse. The actual events over the coming decade are unknowable in advance, but the mood and reactions of the generational archetypes to these events are predictable. The actions of individuals will matter during this Fourth Turning. The majority are trapped in their propaganda induced, techno distracted stupor of willful ignorance. It will take a minority of liberty minded individuals, who honor the principles of the U.S. Constitution and are willing to sacrifice their lives, to prevail in the coming struggle.

Despite fog engulfing the path of future events, we know they will be propelled by debt, civic decay, and global disorder. Finding a unifying grey champion figure seems unlikely at this point. I believe the revelations by Edward Snowden have set the course for future events during this Fourth Turning. The choices of private citizens, like Snowden, Assange, and Manning, have made a difference. The choices we all make over the next ten years will make a difference. A battle for the soul of this country is underway. The Deep State is firmly ingrained, controlling the financial, political and educational systems, while using their vast wealth to perpetuate endless war, and domination of the media to manipulate the masses with propaganda and triviality. They are powerful and malevolent. They will not relinquish their supremacy and wealth willingly.

Snowden has revealed the evil intent of the ruling class and their willingness to trash the Constitution in their psychopathic pursuit of mammon. The mass surveillance of the entire population, locking down of an entire city in pursuit of two teenagers, military training exercises in major metropolitan areas, militarization of local police forces by DHS, crushing peaceful demonstrations with brute force, attempting to restrict and confiscate guns, molesting innocent airline passengers, executive orders utilized on a regular basis by the president, and treating all citizens like suspects has set the stage for the coming conflict. Strauss & Howe warned that history has shown armed conflict is always a major ingredient during a Fourth Turning.

“History offers even more sobering warnings: Armed confrontation usually occurs around the climax of Crisis. If there is confrontation, it is likely to lead to war. This could be any kind of war – class war, sectional war, war against global anarchists or terrorists, or superpower war. If there is war, it is likely to culminate in total war, fought until the losing side has been rendered nil – its will broken, territory taken, and leaders captured.” - The Fourth Turning – Strauss & Howe -1997

It appears to me the Deep State is preparing for armed conflict with the people. Why else would they be utilizing Big Brother methods of surveillance, militarization of police forces  and Gestapo like tactics of intimidation to control the masses? This doesn’t happen in a democratic republic where private individuals are supposed to know everything done by public government servants, not vice versa. They know the cheap, easy to access energy resources are essentially depleted. They know the system they have built upon a foundation of cheap energy and cheap debt is unsustainable and will crash in the near future. They know their fiat currency scheme is failing.They know it is going to come crashing down.

They know America and the world will plunge into an era of depression, violence, and war. They also know they want to retain their wealth, power and control. There is no possibility the existing establishment can be purged through the ballot box. It’s a one party Big Brother system that provides the illusion of choice to the Proles. Like it or not, the only way this country can cast off the shackles of the banking, corporate, fascist elites, and the government surveillance state is through an armed revolution. The alternative is to allow an authoritarian regime, on par with Hitler, Stalin and Mao, to rise from the ashes of our financial collapse. This is a distinct possibility, given the ignorance and helplessness of most Americans after decades of government education and propaganda.       

The average mentally asleep American cannot conceive of armed conflict within the borders of the U.S. War, violence and dead bodies are something they see on their 52 inch HDTVs while gobbling chicken wings and cheetos in their Barcalounger. We’ve allowed a banking cartel and their central bank puppets to warp and deform our financial system into a hideous façade, sold to the masses as free market capitalism. We’ve allowed corporate interests to capture our political system through bribery and corruption.

We’ve allowed the rise of a surveillance state that has stripped us of our privacy, freedom, liberty and individuality in a futile pursuit of safety and security. We’ve allowed a military industrial complex to exercise undue influence in Washington DC, leading to endless undeclared wars designed to enrich the arms makers. We’ve allowed the corporate media and the government education complex to use propaganda, misinformation and social engineering techniques to dumb down the masses and make them compliant consumers. These delusions will be shattered when our financial and economic system no longer functions. The end is approaching rapidly and very few see it coming.

Glory or Ruin?

The scenario I envision is a collapse of our debt saturated financial system, with a domino effect of corporate, personal, and governmental defaults, exacerbated by the trillions of currency, interest rate, and stock derivatives. Global stock markets will crash. Trillions in paper wealth will evaporate into thin air. The Greater Depression will gain a choke-hold around the world. Mass bankruptcies, unemployment and poverty will sweep across the land. The social safety net will tear under the weight of un-payable entitlements. Riots and unrest will breakout in urban areas. Armed citizens in rural areas will begin to assemble in small units. The police and National Guard will be unable to regain control. The military will be called on to suppress any and all resistance to the Federal government. This act of war will spur further resistance from liberty minded armed patriots. The new American Revolution will have begun. Leaders will arise in the name of freedom. Regional and local bands of fighters will use guerilla tactics to defeat a slow top heavy military dependent upon technology and vast quantities of oil. A dictatorial regime may assume power on a Federal level. A breakup of the nation into regional states is a distinct possibility.

With the American Empire crumbling from within, our international influence will wane. With China also in the midst of a Fourth Turning, their debt bubble will burst and social unrest will explode into civil war. Global disorder, wars, terrorism, and financial collapse will lead to a dramatic decrease in oil production, further sinking the world into depression. The tensions caused by worldwide recession will lead to the rise of authoritarian regimes and global warfare. With “advances” in technological warfare and the proliferation of nuclear warheads, this scenario has the potential to end life on earth as we know it. The modern world could be set back into the stone-age with the push of a button. There are no guarantees of a happy ending for humanity.

The outcome of this Fourth Turning is dependent upon the actions of a minority of critical thinking Americans who decide to act. No one can avoid the trials and tribulations that lie ahead. We will be faced with immense challenges. Courage and sacrifice will be required in large doses. Elders will need to lead and millennials will need to carry a heavy load, doing most of the dying. The very survival of our society hangs in the balance. Edward Snowden has provided an example of the sacrifice required during this Fourth Turning. How we respond and the choices we make over the next decade will determine whether this Fourth Turning will result in glory or ruin for our nation.

“Eventually, all of America’s lesser problems will combine into one giant problem. The very survival of the society will feel at stake, as leaders lead and people follow. The emergent society may be something better, a nation that sustains its Framers’ visions with a robust new pride. Or it may be something unspeakably worse. The Fourth Turning will be a time of glory or ruin.” – Strauss & Howe - The Fourth Turning

Click these links to read the first two parts of this three part series:

Do No Evil Google – Censor & Snitch for the State

Google, China, the NSA and the Fourth Turning


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Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:03 | 4550356 Hayabusa
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"It appears to me the Deep State is preparing for armed conflict with the people. Why else would they be utilizing Big Brother methods of surveillance, militarization of police forces  and Gestapo like tactics of intimidation to control the masses? This doesn’t happen in a democratic republic where private individuals are supposed to know everything done by public government servants, not vice versa. They know the cheap, easy to access energy resources are essentially depleted. They know the system they have built upon a foundation of cheap energy and cheap debt is unsustainable and will crash in the near future. They know their fiat currency scheme is failing.They know it is going to come crashing down"


And when it does, you'd better have a certain commodity called lead.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:36 | 4550458 Crisismode
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Many people have stated that gold has no industrial uses worth significance.

Do any of the people who reload have any understanding,

that 24K gold can be cast into the very same molds,

with virtually the same amount of heat,

that lead can?

In other words,

You CAN make ammo with solid gold bullets.

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

If you can't eat gold, you surely can blow the ass off your predator with it.


Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:52 | 4550514 Mister Kitty
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Why would the US government go to war with the citizens?  Just give us free healthcare, donuts, and cable television, and we'll be as happy as pigs in shit.  Bitches.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:17 | 4550590 JohnnyBriefcase
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Not all of us would be happy with that arrangement.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:19 | 4550979 RafterManFMJ
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The problem with a call to arms is the level if death and destruction would be unrecoverable.

And do not think for a second if the powers that be will not use tactical nukes should they start to lose.

War will lead to death and then a tyranny unstoppable; the only real hope is a mass awakening followed by Ghandi style resistsnce IMO.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:31 | 4551019 Seer
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They get their power from you participating, whether peacefully or violently.  Best is to just turn and walk away, make their System obsolete and incapable of allowing them their power.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 05:59 | 4551421 negative rates
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The end is near this I know.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 09:29 | 4551593 Abi Normal
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We're going to the stoning!!!

So you say...So what, we are turning a fourth time...bah!!!

Read the Georgia Guide Stones for some enlightenment...they have told us what they are about to is their creedo, and there is nothing you or me can do about it either, short of the unthinkable!


Sat, 03/15/2014 - 10:00 | 4551639 juangrande
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The beginning is near!

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 13:04 | 4552087 XitSam
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The end of the beginning is near!

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 15:30 | 4552490 Seer
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The Beginning is near!

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 10:28 | 4551666 Liberty2012
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Thank you Seer, very well said.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:58 | 4551096 markpower49
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No, they won't use nukes within the US; it would end any legitimacy they had left. They would be hangd forthwith.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 10:31 | 4551675 Liberty2012
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Markpower49 - you're assuming that you know who "they" are and that they are exclusively in the US - unlikely

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:27 | 4550626 seek
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There will come a time where the US government won't be able to afford free healthcare, donuts, or cable television. That's exactly the same time people who have been getting those benefits turn on the hand that feeds them. That is why the government will go to war with its citizens.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:32 | 4551021 Seer
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Hasn't the govt always been at war with its citizens?

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 10:51 | 4551702 blindman
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the government cannot win a war with its own
people but it can kill them off going to
war with a foreign "demon". this is the method
to get the citizens to kill themselves for
the glory and survival of their "own", very twisted
but it works. "it is a racket". s.b.
watch for high degrees of emotion, hero worship
and magical thinking associated with "justified"
violence in the media. (it is full of it)
the us government creates a money system out of
thin air and gives it to an international banking
cartel monopoly and no one says boo. the "government"
will be recognised as insolvent when the monopoly cartel
has finished stealing and killing those who would
oppose them. there is a critical and fundamental
flaw in this entire arrangement and the last thing that
will be done is to correct that crooked flaw,
so cheers and on with the so what and so it goes.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 14:22 | 4552285 Crash Overide
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One of the best things I ever did for myself was to learn all I can about being self sufficient. Growing food, building stuff, resale shops, lots of reading, etc...

The less you depend on someone or something else the better off you are in the long run and a better member of society in my opinion.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:52 | 4550707 andrewp111
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When the energy supplies run down and the free stuff can no longer be provided at any price, what then? The population must be culled, that's what.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 11:35 | 4551797 AGuy
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"ust give us free healthcare, donuts, and cable television, and we'll be as happy as pigs in shit."

Because the gov't is already broke and can't afford it.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:12 | 4550578 joego1
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Gold does get used by industry for plating electronics and a lot of other uses.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 09:50 | 4551626 SolarSystem1932
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"You CAN make ammo with solid gold bullets."

Here's an idea before you blow your gold out the end of a barrel.

Look around for a car.  Find the tires. Remove lead tire-balance and

cast THAT into your bullet of choice.

OR on that same car, find dead battery.  Wash out core and remove lead for casting.

Do you fish much?  Hell, just dig into the bottom of a tackle box.

Gotta house?  Lead is used on roof fittings and copper plumbing.

So know a mechanic, a plumber and a fisherman, and you have endless sources of lead to feed the zoombie.

NEXT QUESTION: Do you know how to make powder???

AKA: What cha gonna do, throw your gold/lead bullets?


Sat, 03/15/2014 - 11:39 | 4551815 AGuy
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The projectile material is unimportant, The more difficuit items need is the brass casings and powder. Unless you can manufacture them or stockpile than it really does matter what you use for the projectile. Why do people continue to focus on the low hanging fruit and ignore everything else?


Sun, 03/16/2014 - 07:01 | 4554326 chumbawamba
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This is quite possibly the stupidest comment ever posted at ZH, and I been here a while.

Have you ever actually checked the difference between melting points of gold and lead?  You'll have to light more than one additional match to go from melting lead to melting gold, genius.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 07:08 | 4554336 Bearwagon
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It would be advisable to simply use tin-solder as a replacement for lead. Much cheaper and no problems with melting point. ;-)

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 07:18 | 4554345 chumbawamba
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You disappoint me.  Where's your sense of German engineering?  The density is lower than copper and I'm thinking tin is more likely to simply shatter upon impact with any hard target.  You're better off making an efficient backyard furnace that can melt iron.  One scrap automobile can be turned into about 10,000 bullets.

Of course the more pertinent question: is where are you going to get your powder, your casing, and your primer?  Surely the Germans have this figured out?  If not, we're screwed.


Mon, 03/17/2014 - 04:26 | 4557589 Bearwagon
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Well, chumba, my german sense of engineering tells me, that the tin-solder I use is composed of 2 % copper, 60 % tin and *drumroll* 38 % lead. ;-) (Of course it has to be old tin solder, not that modern RoHS-shit). As for the powder ... I hesitate to elaborate that in detail, because one really should not try this at home, but with sufficient supply of salpeter it is not that hard to create explosives. At least black powder could be made quite quickly. If everything else fails, you could hook up a carburettor to your weapon, and if you get the mixture right, it will explode just as good as powder (beware unwanted ignition by static electricity). That way, you could also jury-rig a complete weapon out of a tube and some parts, using a spark plug as the primary, triggered by hand, and ... wait ... I didn't want do go into details. But as you can see, german engineering is still alive and well (and I ain't even an engineer.)  ;-)

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:05 | 4550744 weburke
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planning on shooting your neighbor? planet managers are outside the reach of your bullets, and reading this stuff will make you upset, but also misinformed. snowdon is there to make you think there is a free press. -crashing down- is not in the cards. even when death comes for billions, control will continue. you think math is almighty?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:53 | 4550904 Bonapartist
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"neighbors"- plural

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 01:18 | 4551254 mkkby
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Yawn... hit the snooze button.  We've heard this all before.  Step right up and get your FOURTH TURNING.  Only $29.99 at your local barnes and noble.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 07:19 | 4551491 The Shape
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I dunno why ZH keeps putting these bullshit "the end is nigh" posts up. It's fucking ludicrous and shows the bozos writing these things don't live in the real world. The real world ain't the echo chamber these loons and their fellow chin strokers live in, it's where most of the public are fat and lazy degenerate gambling addicts with prescription drug addictions.

You know what I'd find a believable read? 13 Reasons Why The Public Won't Revolt.


1. Mega Millions

2. Powerball

3. Your state lotto

4. Sugar

5. Obesity

6. Diabetes

7. Survivor

8. Dancing With The Stars

9. X Factor

10. Valium

11. Zoloft

12. Vicodin

13. SUVs

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 09:32 | 4551598 Abi Normal
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you left off the little blue pill fella, zoing...and booze and illegal drugs...

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 10:03 | 4551641 juangrande
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and sex

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 10:34 | 4551683 Abi Normal
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damn, how could i forget that....sigh!

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 10:38 | 4551688 juangrande
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You've probably been married for a while. ;)

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 12:54 | 4552051 Abi Normal
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LOL, yup!

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 11:45 | 4551835 AGuy
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" It's fucking ludicrous and shows the bozos writing...Blah Blah blah, I am right and smart the rest of you are clueless dummies"

 What happens when they can't get food, water, and gasoline?. All of the other crap you listed will disappear too. Then what happens? What happening in South America. They South Americans use to have the  things on your list and now they can't. Why are nearly daily riots in the civilized Europe?



Sat, 03/15/2014 - 15:51 | 4552542 luckystrike6
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Wait, so it's not pretentious to write a bunch of books about how no one but you sees the end coming, and pretty much everyone else is a clueless dummy... but it's pretentious to call SHTF scare tactics out as a cheap marketing ploy?

Also, just a word from over here in civilized Europe (Spain, actually). No there are not nearly daily riots here. There is certainly a recession, but things have gotten markedly better over the past year. The economy is running, the tourists are back in force, and people are working. What Spain has that the US lacks is the safety net of strong extended families who managed to keep most of their members on their feet (or at least eating hot meals) through the worst of the crisis. It's still a crisis, but people are adjusting. Everything from tapas bars to hookers offers "crisis prices"... but the economy is ticking over. I happened to be in Argentina in 2002-03 and saw what a real crisis looks like; about as close to a SHTF scenario as you're likely to see; the US is a much, much richer country in terms of private wealth, and it's hard to imagine Argentine levels of social collapse, let alone the ludicrous fantasies of the Montana Militia et al. They just want the apocalypse to happen, because otherwise they'll have been prepping for nothing.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 08:40 | 4554424 The Shape
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They'll die a slow and agonising death in their own homes.

Their poor health and addictions will see to that.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 10:11 | 4551630 Drifter
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"It appears to me the Deep State is preparing for armed conflict with the people."

Preparing maybe, but I don't think it'll ever come to that, Americans are proving they'll accept the new communism without a fight ...just lots of whining and bitching (and empty threats) on blogs like this.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 11:01 | 4551719 Tom_333
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At trip to the Ministry of Love will cure you of all those suspicions. The Chestnut Café is always open.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:06 | 4550364 g'kar
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There does seem to be a gun confiscation zone being set up in the states around Washington DC.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:21 | 4550406 The Gooch
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And beyond.


Keep your eyes on CT. 

Those folks are 1st in line.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:38 | 4550470 IridiumRebel
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Good ol' CT! I wonder how they are doing these days.....i've never looked back. I wish them luck. 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:20 | 4550790 Thought Processor
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Any guesses why Connecticut?  


Who in CT would be afraid of others near them having guns?   Oh wait, do super rich financial power brokers live in Connecticut?   Would they be afraid?  Afraid of whom?  


Oh, maybe they are afraid of 'people' massing at their mansions post collapse, with a 'Let's get this party started' look on their faces.


Something tells me the next stage in this play isn't going to be all touchy feely nice like the Occupy movement was.


Shit's gonna 'get real', and thanks to Zillow everyone now knows where to 'get real' at.  


Welcome to CT.  A target rich environment.


P.S.  I am in no way condoning violence, just observing that it seems like there are some scared people in Connecticut and the above is likely why.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:33 | 4550830 Robinhood
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CT was confiscated by the zionists.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 10:43 | 4551696 Liberty2012
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Down vote for propoganda and broad paintbrush

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:15 | 4550973 pickupthatcan
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Here's the list of names and home addresses of the domestic terrorists in CT that chose to vote for tyranny.


Sat, 03/15/2014 - 11:09 | 4551734 Liberty2012
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Up vote for sharing clear relevant information.

That is a sad state of affairs.

I think part of what is happening is the flowing stages of understanding. Some of the people of influence never understood what was really going on. They didn't understand the part they were playing. Most don't see it until it is right in front of them. You tend to discount massive evil. They are at the next step, fear. Fear is destructive and a waste of time.

When they get past the fear, then they will start talking to people and working on how to build things together. Living is the norm.

We're all responsible for the current mess. Every one of us. We didn't look closely enough. We followed the generally accepted lead.

We're all in this together. I think the ones who fully knew what they were doing are relatively few in number.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 11:27 | 4551772 Seer
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Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:36 | 4550555 scrappy
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We are.


Connecticut is scheduled for next Saturday 3/15 at 10am in Hartford.http //


Z Plan Boss. - Detailed

Our mission is to restore the people to sovereignty through knowledge, and only then will they be armed with the virtue to take political and judicial power. The people have it in their power to disarm and defeat the enemy of Liberty both foreign and domestic if they only understood the principles of freedom and stand upon them.

To take political power is to control our elected representatives, by bringing them into obedience through fear of the people, this is accomplished by understanding the office of & becoming an elected committeemen, and then execute the powers.

To take judicial power is to control our courts by understanding jurisdiction and bringing into subjection all government officers and officials using common law courts by opening courts of record and executing "people" authority, it's that simple!

But, to successfully apply political and judicial power you must have a sense of justice and mercy which is synonymous with virtue. And to get virtue you need to have a relationship with your creator. If everyone exercised these principles America could shake off the chains of tyranny, reinstate our republic, and bring down the NWO "literally overnight". This is the only way to save the nation, without power you are powerless!

Join our endeavor and save our Republic, one person at a time!

Please get off the Keyboard and help YOUR county and state!  - No excuses if YOU do not act.  Regret sucks.

Opportunity knocks. - We need all of you.

Progress report call every monday night.

Thank you.


Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:50 | 4550702 BlindMonkey
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Best of luck with that. I wish you all well.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:16 | 4550769 Robinhood
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Good luck patriot brother. I grew up in CT and was on the lawn of the capitol protesting Lowell "fucking" Weiker's income tax. I'm afraid you live in a state of Zion now, where they want to disarm you so they can control you. Sad that it was the constitution state.

Pick up your guns and ammo and move south.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:17 | 4550781 The Gooch
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Stand and fight.

Not one more inch.

If so, it will make it's way South, Robinhood.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:40 | 4550857 Robinhood
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Yes sir patriot brother Gooch, you are absolutely correct, and if I could get there by tomorrow I would love to open carry one of my favorite Russian rifles.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 06:05 | 4551428 negative rates
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Good advice, it's a cold and windy place that  ages you faster than normal. Beside it is the state with the motto "He who is transplanted, sustains", and so all reason would suggest that if you don't, the opposite is true and so should be the consequences. Only real evil would want to hold on to power there.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:51 | 4550879 Rakshas
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These words should be hopelessly obvious to this audience.....but .....

do we start our conversation with the understanding that all wars, ALL WARS are bankers wars............. the simplicity of that statement belies the weight of its meaning but it all starts there doesn’t it.  The parasites of civilization for millennia they care nothing of the hosts they infect as they know well  that whatever rises out of the ashes of their greed can eventually be corrupted and subjugated once more.... in time. 

If we make it to the other side of tomorrow, and are able to carry on, one amendment that should have been enshrined in the constitution from the outset as a continuation of the original money policy – both central banks and usury should be prohibited from existing in any form …… and to my core I wish that any effort to set up such an enterprise be met with the same measure afforded Nazi’s by Aldo Raine (Inglourious Basterds)


Sat, 03/15/2014 - 11:49 | 4551849 Seer
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Bankers are but a symptom, albeit an ugly one.  If they were to be rid of there's still the issue of what to do when the inevitable end-of-growth occurs (and everyone is clamoring for MOAR [because that's what everyone is programmed for]).

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 07:17 | 4551490 beaglebog
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Good luck.


But, it's logically impossible to be both Citizen and Master.


There can be no liberty whilst even one politician breathes.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 11:44 | 4551832 Liberty2012
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Citizens are Masters of themselves and allow others to be their own masters as well.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 15:38 | 4552508 Seer
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WTF does "liberty" mean?

All these feel-good words/terms.  We live not off of words but off of things (such as food and energy etc.).

I don't subscribe to the notion that there has to be both a citizen and a master.  No gods, no masters...

Thanks for playing!

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 11:36 | 4551803 Liberty2012
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Thank you scrappy, well said, covers all bases concisely

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:38 | 4551038 Lord Koos
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Doesn't seem any more onerous than having to register a car... but freak out at your leisure, please.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 07:04 | 4551443 GetZeeGold
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Sometimes they register people too...


Good news number've won the lotto and you're taking a trip to the Island.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 09:37 | 4551608 Abi Normal
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Oh Lord, registration leads to confiscation...have you no sense of history?  Look to Conn, Cali and New Yuck to see the writing fella...if you still believe what you just wrote then fuck you!

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:44 | 4550488 Hayabusa
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Gun confiscation zone... naw, that's just a stress test but unlike the stress tests banks take, this one is designed to see how many citizens will capitulate to those who ignore the 2nd ammendment, the bill of rights and attempt to erase the last vestiges of patriotism and resistance to their scheme.  Confiscation zones are simply test sites, as was the Boston Marathon city takeover, etc.  How will the people react sir?  "We're not sure... lets experiment and find out."  The world is their labatory and we are their experimental rats.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:15 | 4550586 El Vaquero
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Problem with using tests is that the will of the people is fickle.  The registration scheme in CT probably would have gone off without a hitch 20 years ago.  People witnessed what happened in Boston and that got some of them thinking about it.  Just the act of testing something like that could change moods in the future.  Then, in my state, there was a bill that would simply bring NM's system in line with the national background check system.  It failed to pass and even resulted in protestors with AR15s on the steps of the capitol building.  Different regions will likely offer different levels of resistance as well. 


Anybody using tests for this kind of stuff is a linear thinker.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 18:03 | 4552958 ConManipulation
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I remember pictures of that...friggin awesome!  Especially the guy looking into the glass door of the attorney general's office.  That is how it SHOULD be!!



Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:53 | 4550519 joego1
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I'm getting into the cowboy action shooting the guns that are used are non-evil and most likely will be the last to be confiscated. The rest of my guns were stolen by roving gangs in canoes.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:55 | 4550913 Philalethian
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Nuttin like a long cool 28 inches of full choked three inch magnum triple ought buck-shot repeatedly speaking loudly, and very clear on a full moon night.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:37 | 4551037 Seer
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I suppose if you want to make a lot of noise.  If you want to put on a light show use black powder.  If you want to hurl a shit-load of lead in the greatest area possible then it's something along the lines of an AR15.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:09 | 4550366 DaddyO
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Ya know, when you live ODAT, it just doesn't matter.

I'm as prepped as I can be 'today', let tomorrow take care of itself...


Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:11 | 4550379 g'kar
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Agreed. "Fear is the mind killer"

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:16 | 4550393 A Lunatic
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Let your imagination run wild.......

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:29 | 4550441 Overfed
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Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:22 | 4550604 A Lunatic
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The guy himself may be off his meds, however the science is real, and in some instances has already been implemented. (LRAD technology in Los Angeles for example or drone fired laser testing in North Dakota). I find it interesting that so many dismiss things of this nature so readily, yet embrace the general theory that there is a controlled dismantling of Civilization as we know it by a handful of elite sociopath banksters. I do not find it difficult to imagine a tyrannical government entity developing silent and deadly weapons for the purpose of population control. Much of this technology is already in place. it is only a matter of time before the necessary refinements are realized to make much of what was previously science fiction a stark and deadly reality....

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:52 | 4550705 jon dough
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...silent and deadly...

Been there, done that...

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 12:53 | 4552044 Liberty2012
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A Lunatic, you are correct.

MSM used to cover science and technology fairly regularly. Then it just vanished, replaced with anything and everything mindless. This topic was the sort of thing that suddenly disappeared.

Also, as an aside, he mentions 1997 and 2002. I've noticed that 1997 and 2003 keeps popping up as points when key events / positionings / changes occurred.

Definitely interesting.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:38 | 4550847 nowhereman
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This is what the US government did with Tesla's patents.  Did you know they are still classified to this day.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:22 | 4550419 The Gooch
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"chance favors the prepared mind"


Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:35 | 4550456 IridiumRebel
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In making tactical dispositions, the highest pitch you can attain is to conceal them. - Sun Tzu

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:02 | 4550547 fonzannoon
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I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.

Jack Handy

and a bonus one

Even though he was an enemy of mine, I had to admit that what he had accomplished was a brilliant piece of strategy. First, he punched me, then he kicked me, then he punched me again.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:05 | 4550560 The Gooch
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Hey Fonz!

I'm going shark jumping tomorrow!



Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:19 | 4550596 fonzannoon
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whats up man, all the best to you. always good to see u on here. 


Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:10 | 4550760 The Gooch
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<boat drinks>

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:17 | 4550592 maskone909
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Lol is that deep thoughts vintage snl? They dont make em like they used to

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:59 | 4550539 nmewn
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"Fear is the mind killer"


They want you to be afraid...very very afraid...afraid of where your next meal will come from...of your neighbor down the road who has never done anything against you...of fire, flu, terrorism, war, earthquakes, weather, criminals, chemicals, rabid dogs & clowns in makeup.

Its what they do, feed paranoia because they themselves are paranoid.

Of us.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:46 | 4550685 Anusocracy
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Fear of breaking one of their two million+ laws.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 04:24 | 4551380 Oh regional Indian
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They are not laws, they are ALL statutes and codes of US Corp.

The whole game is voluntary made to look other-wise via social engineerng and legalese.


Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:41 | 4551048 Seer
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And their greatest fear would be that we'd quit listening to and working for them.

Always look toward the target.  Practice what you want the future to be.  Wasting time knocking off the self-replicants only sucks valuable life and energy from us.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 09:41 | 4551613 Abi Normal
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...unless they are coming to get you...knock away

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 15:41 | 4552518 Seer
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Yeah, important caveat! :-)

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 10:21 | 4551653 juangrande
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The problem, as I see it, is there are less people in the world who KNOW what it means to be w/o fear than there are people with $100 million dollars or more. Our fear based collective created/destroyed/re-created this world scenario many times over the history of civilization. The common denominator was/is the unwillingness to address the nature of the delusional mind that's been running the show. Talk about lack of critical thinking. It aint about us and them, it's only "we the people". But, it's a lot more "interesting" to point and blame than it is to sit quietly and try to understand the nature of your mind!

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 15:14 | 4552443 Liberty2012
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Yes, that is the question. What do you do with people who refuse to leave other people alone, who's top priority is control of others?

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 15:43 | 4552525 Seer
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Those kinds of people have always been and always will be around.  They'll fuck up others no matter what.  About all we can do is to minimize their field of influence; removing thrones of power is, therefore, a logical aim.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:13 | 4550378 Ban KKiller
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Stay and protect your property. Both conditions requre preparation. Prepper!

Long TP and hopium. All the religions preach being prepared. They know history...empires fall. When? OK...August 12, 2014, Pulled that out of my ass. 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:12 | 4550381 Ifigenia
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I dare say a lot of people in EU and US prefer to fight City and Wall Street than Russia, so dont force us to choose.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:13 | 4550384 A Lunatic
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Looks like I'd better get my DWTS DVD collection in order.....

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:15 | 4550389 NoDebt
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So, will this affect the price of my stocks?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:15 | 4550391 ebworthen
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"The average mentally asleep American cannot conceive of armed conflict within the borders of the U.S. War, violence and dead bodies are something they see on their 52 inch HDTVs while gobbling chicken wings and cheetos in their Barcalounger."

Damn, I only got me a 42 inch HDTV and a La-Z-Boy; do I need to get out the credit card?

Ron Paul tried to step forward but was ignored and/or intentionally stymied at every turn.

Pretty sure the U.S.S.A. has crossed the Rubicon, but you never know.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:33 | 4550452 The Gooch
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I am about to start smashing gas-pump tv's.

Fill 'er up = smash every single one.

I'm hoping at least one fellow gas-pumper will cheer me on.

Maybe Beck will pick up my you tube.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:37 | 4550846 Help Is Not Coming
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Nah. Don't smash it. That would make noise and draw attention to you. What you want to do is put a very large rare earth magnet on the TV while you pump your gas. Take it with you when you go. No one will notice what you're doing but they'll certainly notice the funny things you end up doing to the monitor. More fun that way....

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:52 | 4551085 e_goldstein
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Everyone participating in Project Mayhem should invest in one of these:

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 11:26 | 4551768 Dave Thomas
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This might not shut off the TV in the gas pump, but it sure will shut off the TVs in the airport and the one hammering you while you're eating.



Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:15 | 4550392 Lord Koos
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Start buying your peanut butter and silver rounds now!

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:22 | 4550418 IridiumRebel
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way ahead of you

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:28 | 4550437 DaddyO
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Better late than never...


Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:43 | 4550486 IridiumRebel
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ODAT my friend

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:43 | 4550487 El Vaquero
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It's always annoying to realize that there is one more thing that you would like to be able to have/do when you think about the likely future breakdown of society.  Everybody knows about cheap crappy food and TP, but I realized another one not too long ago.  Disposable razors.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:09 | 4550569 Boondocker
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bug spray and qtips... lol

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:13 | 4550582 IridiumRebel
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I plan on rocking a hipster beard for the apocoplypse.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:20 | 4550598 El Vaquero
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I just picked up a straight razor.  It was made in 1860 and it is still in good shape.  I put a new edge on it and managed to only cut myself once.  LOL. 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:54 | 4550717 A Lunatic
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........But you should have seen the other guy......

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:22 | 4550992 El Vaquero
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I got into a knife fight and the knife won. 

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 06:07 | 4551430 Bearwagon
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A straight razor is the best razor, period. But it ain't easy to handle, so I'd advise that you practice using it by "shaving" balloons. Practice, practice, practice ...   ;-)

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 15:45 | 4552527 Seer
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I have one.   Haven't touched it in years after the doctor's orders...

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:32 | 4550642 seek
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Shaving was perfected decades ago with double edge safety razors. You can shave with a new edge every day for a year for under $20.

I have a large stash of blades and razor handles, likely enough to last me the rest of my life.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 02:17 | 4551317 it aint paranoi...
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Iv'e been using this product, extends the life of my disposable razor about 400%.  There are cheaper products, but I'm stuck at work and can't easily pull up the other products:


I don't post very often, let me know if I didn't link that correctly.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 15:47 | 4552532 Seer
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On behalf of all cheap bastards I thank you!

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:44 | 4551061 Seer
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Dental floss.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 14:05 | 4552251 klockwerks
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Kevlar vest and gas masks

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 03:13 | 4551347 Adahy
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Dry your razors thoroughly after every use and keep them in a dry place when not needed.  You will notice a drastic increase in their life.
Old-school straight razor is the way to go though in my opinion.  You'll get used to it, then you'll never look back to the old disposable junk.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 08:58 | 4551567 chemystical
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"Dry your razors thoroughly after every use and keep them in a dry place when not needed. You will notice a drastic increase in their life."

What you're actually talking about is preventing them from rusting aka oxidizing (in the instance of steel blades).

A dessicator will do just fine, but keeping them "dry" is a matter of semantics because, counterintuitively, you can also store them razor in oil.  Baby oil will work.  Ever watch The Antique Road Show, where the antique gun appraiser finishes every segment by advising the person to "put a light coat of oil on it"?  Same thing.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 09:44 | 4551616 Abi Normal
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heck no, that is what beards are for...silly penguin!  or a straight edge with a leather strap...

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 00:24 | 4551161 Anusocracy
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50 lbs vanilla whey protein isolate equals about one year of protein for an adult. Two year shelf life.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:15 | 4550394 I need Another Beer
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This has happened before under Lincoln, who consolidated the federal govt and destroyed state rights. I doubt the movement to ammend the constitution by the states will be regarded seriously, but that is the last option short of another bloody conflict within our borders.

When it finally happens, I will be on the side of liberty and nothing else.


Good luck boys

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:09 | 4550570 Bytor325
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Molon labe

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:12 | 4550577 Mike in GA
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@I need another beer:

If a constitutional convention (CC) is "the last option short of...bloody conflict..." then we have no options at all.  Imagine calling a CC right now, with the current polarization of both the people and our representatives in gov't. 

At this point in history, with political correctness sancrosanct and newfound "rights" being discovered each election cycle, with unrestrained spending on the part of the gov. and no one willing to admit that things cannot continue as they are, what would be the effect of opening up for public debate the one document that has shielded the people from exactly these excesses to the extent that it has for so many years?

The FSA and their handlers would employ every mob and thug tactic in the book to pressure the outcome in favor of moochers and takers.  For the children, of course.

This is why I would fear a CC - I don't trust anyone in gov. to act from the heart in the best interests of the entire country, instead of just their political party as they do today.

I am on the side of Liberty, too, and wish you the same good luck. 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:34 | 4550650 seek
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We don't need a CC, and I honestly doubt it would accomplish anything. But a fairly short amendment that re-asserts the 10th and overrides a few key supreme court decisions could undo 100 years of federal takeover and cut the states loose.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 01:30 | 4551269 mkkby
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Anyone who thinks the law or constitution matters any more needs a good soaking of the noggin.  Rule of law only exists if there is a body that will respect and enforce it.  We don't have that.  Which is why we are though.  Only a disaster and painful reset will change things.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:07 | 4550956 I need Another Beer
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@ Mike in Ga

Ironically I am Mike in S Ga, lol!!

It is not a CC, it is Article 5, Convention of the States which does an end run around the Executive, both Houses of Congress and the Judiciary.

Read Mark Levin's The Liberty Amendment

Article 5 was put in the Constitution for this reason, the feds will not fix themselves, the states must assert their rights one more time, win or lose.

 Good luck bro

I know your powder is dry

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 06:11 | 4551436 Disenchanted
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Mark Levin, liberty...oxymoron.

Seriously, Mark Levin? Good luck...

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 09:10 | 4551581 chemystical
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Next up on your radio dials is Schlomo Lipinksy, and tonight he's selling bankster repellant.  Honest!  Why would he lie to you?

It's as if no one ever heard of controlled opposition.  Tea Party becoming a grass rooots threat?  No worries, MSM tells everyone (with a tv, radio, or vestigial reading ability) who the TP "leaders" are: cohencidentally those leaders were simply re-branded politicians - the same ones who the TP decried.  Oy, the cohencidence.  Enter the Occupy Movements and their "leaders".

My faith in the publik is at an all-time low.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:47 | 4551073 Seer
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And the problem is, what?

Replace all of "them" and you're still going to continue to drive over the cliff.  The paradigm of perpetual growth will demand that liars step up to tell us that more growth is possible (or that it's occurring), and when it really isn't possible they'll once again start fudging numbers and the reports until...

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:20 | 4550405 Remnant_Army
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Wednesday, May 16th, 2012

"The Second Seal is about to unfold as foretold to John the Evangelist in the Book of Revelation."

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:22 | 4550417 Spastica Rex
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I thought it was the Dawning of the Age of Aquarius.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:37 | 4550464 THE DOCTOR
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The second seal... Sky santa... What a load of bronze age magic shit.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 00:01 | 4551107 IridiumRebel
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Did someone say MAGIC: THE GATHERING? Wanna play?

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 05:09 | 4551384 New World Chaos
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Oooh, oooh, can we play the online version with virtual cards purchased through Mt. Gox?

P.S.  Death to the Dimir Guild!  That's the Illuminati, for those fortunate enough to have not wasted time and money on MTG.  MTG is Black.  Discard.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 01:44 | 4551290 vie
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Unfortunately, TPTB seem to be using the bronze age magic shit as a playbook ... what better way to get people to do what you want than to convince them their messiah has come back.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 05:55 | 4551405 New World Chaos
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Babylonian money magick + some sort of Egyptian Necronomicon + the Talmud + numerology + demonism + mind control and ritual child abuse + human sacrifice + the Book of Revelation, played from the devil's side.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 06:16 | 4551441 Disenchanted
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Babylon's Banksters by Joseph P. Farrell

The Alchemy of Deep Physics, High Finance and Ancient Religion
Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:37 | 4550465 THE DOCTOR
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The second seal... Sky santa... What a load of bronze age magic shit.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:10 | 4550574 Hayabusa
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At least THE DOCTOR tells it the way it is!  Let's stick to business and not get into

pie in the sky, imaginary deity, superstitious, "bronze age magic shit."  Hey DOC,

consider me your friend!

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:07 | 4550564 Hayabusa
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To Remnant_Army:

Evangelise this!

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:11 | 4550575 Boondocker
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no man knows the time of his return....sheesh read your bible

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 09:48 | 4551623 Abi Normal
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ummm May 16th huh, that coincides with OAS Operation American Spring, hmmmmm, scratching head right now???

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:21 | 4550414 RaceToTheBottom
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You're going to need a bigger barcolounger.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:31 | 4550447 Son of Captain Nemo
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All you "Amerikuns" out there have your "Liberty hats" in place and your orifices lubed and ready for your DNS representative's visitation?

Anyone between the ages of ( 1 - 14)  FEMA indoctrination and training (room and board) included

Anyone between the ages of (15 - 50) given your level of fitness and aptitude will participate in work activities commensurate with your skills and abilities.  Most of you in this age group will be serving in some capacity during these years in the United States armed forces, or DHS law enforcement!

Anyone between the ages of (50 - 65) will support the "Homeland" suitable to your age, cognitive and physical health

Anyone between the ages of (65 - 75) will undergo periodic cognitive and physical examinations to determine "fitness".  Those that do not meet the required physical and mental criteria of "fitness testing" will be "permanently retired".

David Rockefeller George Soros, Zbigniew Brzezinski and Henry Kissinger - collective age 400 years old!

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:35 | 4550455 FilthyHabits
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Build your communities with respect, sustenance, and support those Americans that are trying to do good in their own lives. Real Americans will survive.

These people are manipulative, lying, power hungry, whorish, 2 inched - cocked, criminal fucking scum. They will be put down; By themselves or by Americans defending humanity.

Arm yourselves.

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