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Missing Malaysian Flight: Hijacking, Sabotage Theories Added To The Mix

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Until today, the prevailing theory surrounding the mysterious disappearance of Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 was either catastrophic midair disintegration and/or terrorism. That changed overnight, following reports by various news agencies that the Boeing 777 was deliberately flown hundreds of miles off course, in a westerly direction toward India's Andaman islands, heightening suspicions of foul play among investigators, as reported by Reuters. And like that the theory shifts from one of terrorism to hijacking and sabotage, ostensibly by highly skilled operators, yet considering the results, one gone horribly wrong.

Reuters reports:

Analysis of the Malaysia data suggests the plane, with 239 people on board, diverted from its intended northeast route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing and flew west instead, using airline flight corridors normally employed for routes to the Middle East and Europe, said sources familiar with investigations into the Boeing 777's disappearance. Two sources said an unidentified aircraft that investigators believe was Flight MH370 was following a route between navigational waypoints when it was last plotted on military radar off the country's northwest coast.

 

This indicates that it was either being flown by the pilots or someone with knowledge of those waypoints, the sources said.

 

The last plot on the military radar's tracking suggested the plane was flying toward India's Andaman Islands, a chain of isles between the Andaman Sea and the Bay of Bengal, they said.

 

A third source familiar with the investigation said inquiries were focusing increasingly on the theory that someone who knew how to fly a plane deliberately diverted the flight.

While the western direction is a recent hypothesis, the reality is that searching for the plane so far has been the equivalent of finding the needle in the proverbial haystack, as shown in the map below which plots the potential area where MH370 could have gone:

A summary timeline of the progression in the MH370 theories:

Regardless of the plane's final resting place, the key change is that in addition to possible terrorism, the prevailing theory is shifting to one involving hijacking:

"What we can say is we are looking at sabotage, with hijack still on the cards," said that source, a senior Malaysian police official.

 

All three sources declined to be identified because they were not authorized to speak to the media and due to the sensitivity of the investigation.

 

Officials at Malaysia's Ministry of Transport, the official point of contact for information on the investigation, did not return calls seeking comment.

 

Malaysian police have previously said they were investigating whether any passengers or crew had personal or psychological problems that might shed light on the mystery, along with the possibility of a hijacking, sabotage or mechanical failure.

 

As a result of the new evidence, the sources said, multinational search efforts were being stepped up in the Andaman Sea and also the Indian Ocean.

But if it was indeed a hijacking, who was the perpetrator? And what was the ultimate destination? Question which will hopefully be answered soon. In the meantime, the search for the missing flight continues:

In one of the most baffling mysteries in modern aviation, no trace of the plane nor any sign of wreckage has been found despite a search by the navies and military aircraft of more than a dozen countries. The last sighting of the aircraft on civilian radar screens came shortly before 1:30 a.m. Malaysian time last Saturday (1730 GMT Friday), less than an hour after it took off from Kuala Lumpur, as the plane flew northeast across the mouth of the Gulf of Thailand. That put the plane on Malaysia's east coast.

 

Malaysia's air force chief said on Wednesday an aircraft that could have been the missing plane was plotted on military radar at 2:15 a.m., 200 miles northwest of Penang Island off Malaysia's west coast. This position marks the limit of Malaysia's military radar in that part of the country, a fourth source familiar with the investigation told Reuters.

 

When asked about the range of military radar at a news conference on Thursday, Malaysian Transport Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said it was "a sensitive issue" that he was not going to reveal.

 

"Even if it doesn't extend beyond that, we can get the co-operation of the neighboring countries," he said.

 

The fact that the aircraft - if it was MH370 - had lost contact with air traffic control and was invisible to civilian radar suggested someone on board had turned off its communication systems, the first two sources said.

 

They also gave new details on the direction in which the unidentified aircraft was heading - following aviation corridors identified on maps used by pilots as N571 and P628. These routes are taken by commercial planes flying from Southeast Asia to the Middle East or Europe and can be found in public documents issued by regional aviation authorities.

 

In a far more detailed description of the military radar plotting than has been publicly revealed, the first two sources said the last confirmed position of MH370 was at 35,000 feet about 90 miles off the east coast of Malaysia, heading towards Vietnam, near a navigational waypoint called "Igari". The time was 1:21 a.m..

 

The military track suggests it then turned sharply westwards, heading towards a waypoint called "Vampi", northeast of Indonesia's Aceh province and a navigational point used for planes following route N571 to the Middle East. From there, the plot indicates the plane flew towards a waypoint called "Gival", south of the Thai island of Phuket, and was last plotted heading northwest towards another waypoint called "Igrex", on route P628 that would take it over the Andaman Islands and which carriers use to fly towards Europe.

The only other question is how this too airplane "crisis" will not be put to waste by US authorities, and the FSA...

 

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Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:01 | 4547064 GetZeeGold
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A clear case of alien abduction.....unless you have a better idea.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:05 | 4547068 fonzannoon
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I am clearly in the alien camp. However it's interesting that Tyler concluded by implying the free shit army has something to do with it. I had never considered that and now I have to really question everything again.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:12 | 4547084 Ranger4564
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It's always the free shit army's fault, even when it's the priviledged self-absorbed self-righteous pyramid climbing mofo's who are actually causing the destruction around the globe.

Look around, is it a bunch of evil oligarchs and "leaders" or is it a bunch of bottom of the pyramid homeless twits who are destroying the world?

It's impossible to twist the narrative to the distortions so many here want to have recorded.... in the end, it's all just a bunch of ignorant bullshit.

Nothing wrong with free shit. Every god loving capitalist wants free shit too. They just "earn" it off their slaves work ethic.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:18 | 4547102 fonzannoon
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Free shit is one thing, but taking a freaking plane with people on it is another. This EBT card stuff is one thing but the FSA is clearly out of control now. They are grabbing for it all. Even Cloward/Piven would have probably agreed that this is now out of hand.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:21 | 4547120 NoDebt
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D.B. Cooper, not aliens.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:36 | 4547159 Headbanger
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According to Google Earth, the ocean is only about 100 feet deep or less in the Gulf of Thailand east of Malaysia and less than 2000 fet deep for some 150 miles going west. So it should be doable to find this plane soon if it went down in those shallow areas.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:47 | 4547199 old naughty
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Was it just me silly that isn’t it obvious despite sightings near waypoints brought out the navigational corridors of N571 and P628, it was heading into large stretch of open water in the Indian Ocean.

 

Assuming the one “commandeering” the flight knew what he was doing, it is suicidal since range suggests it would fall into the sea. Hard to swallow after that much effort, no?

 

 

Why isn’t there any explanation about cellphone still ringing for hours?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:51 | 4547221 knukles
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Or the planes mechanical status broadcast system to Boeing remaining functional?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:08 | 4547308 Xibalba
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who had the codes to the black box?  Which pilot turned it off?  

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:39 | 4547483 GaryNeville
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If it was pilot suicide why would he/ she turn the transponder off!??

If you wanted to die that much I cant imagine you'd be too bothered about a transponder or anyone coming to shoot you down!!

Something very fishy is going on.

My theory is as follows...........

Plane is hijacked by a couple of passengers (possibly the two Iranians). They turn the transponder off and change direction NW towards the Pakistan (remember Malay military have tracked it to Phukhet). The passengers realise whats going on and re overun the plane but cause it to crash in the process. Planes gone down in one piece just South of India (hence why the Inidan governement is now searching off its coasts).

Otherwise I'm starting to side with the Alien camp.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 10:33 | 4547815 actionjacksonbrownie
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Google Earth Car Nicobar Island.

Do tptb have any buds in Indian Military?

 

https://www.google.ca/maps/@9.1560218,92.8223784,34464m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 11:13 | 4547999 Tsukato
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I know where it is: Diego Garcia island. Someone's getting tortured and tons more are getting murdered ill betcha.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 11:39 | 4548138 StacksOnStacks
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It's probably being loaded with explosives and will "rejoin" the other planes in the sky before crashing somewhere with a large population.  I just hope they haven't killed the passengers.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:08 | 4547301 Headbanger
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Oh duh.    Because there are no cell phone towers in the Indian Ocean maybe!!??

And that aircraft had plenty of fuel to reach India so it isn't suicidal to fly it that far.

What's a mystery to me is why wasn't this aircraft spotted by any commercial or fishing vessels in those waters if it went down?

I think it landed or was crashed into an island.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:38 | 4547476 old naughty
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Or, god4bid, it was "swallowed' up by UFO and carried to their nearest natvigational corridor in the Indian Ocean...Then disappeared under the sea.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 10:06 | 4547656 TheReplacement
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Google map "Diego Garcia"

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:50 | 4547214 knukles
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According to one of my crypto buds and his pal a systems manipulator, the 777 is an eminently hackable entity.

Notice the language, "An eminently hackable system"

And you guys thought modern cars were hackable

LOL

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:06 | 4547290 DeadFred
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The GPS system in my car once tried to kill me, maybe theirs did too.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:13 | 4547336 Headbanger
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Some years ago I saw a woman drive her car off  bridge that was just washed out but with some wooden barricades because her GPS said it was the way to go!

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:16 | 4547357 knukles
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LOL
OK, I have to submit the real possibility of Women Pilots

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:17 | 4547351 Headbanger
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That doesn't make total sense because cabin air is supplied by the engine compressor bleed air.

Anybody familiar with the cabin pressurization system on the 777???

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:28 | 4547439 King_Julian
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Yes. You can turn the air conditioning system off and eventually depressurize the airplane at that altitude. Eventually the oxygen masks would deploy but they have only a limited supply. There are portable O2 bottles but they wouldn't last for hundreds of people. The pilots have their own system. It would be good for hours

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:40 | 4547488 Headbanger
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That would still take somebody in the cockpit knowing what they were doing.  Or is it possible to hack the aircraft digital systems to disable the cabin air supply and cockpit control of it and other systems?

Is it possible to disable cockpit flight controls and fly the aircraft by hacking its digital systems?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:39 | 4550852 King_Julian
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If it's a computer, it's hackable, however, I am skeptical this would be practical. Any code changes that involved such deep manipulation of flight control servos and disabled the pilot's override capability would be expensive and glitchy. I'd believe it after I saw it. One person could easily fly it. If you were trying to steal it for some reason, easily done.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 12:04 | 4548263 Suisse
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This does not account for the transponder being turned off. 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:14 | 4547340 Toronto Kid
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*the 777 is an eminently hackable entity*

What? God, that sends chills down my spine.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 10:36 | 4547832 thestarl
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Possible Knuckles the Iranians hacked an RQ170 sentinel drone after all

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 10:05 | 4547647 TheReplacement
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It didn't "go down".  It landed.  Where?  Diego Garcia.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:23 | 4547124 zionhead101
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If you burn every GOOGLE shuttle bus in SF, you will find the truth, ... just saying, that ZH would take you places, but we never said they were good places.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 11:13 | 4548000 creeko
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100% spot on.  Nothing says fre shit quite like being able to print your own money for pennies on the dollar.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 11:46 | 4548177 LFMayor
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Listen to you, with your righteous defense of "le auffruex", those poor oppressed peoples.  I bet if you only "educated" them and helped them escape the "tyranny of poverty" that they'd all turn into fucking June and Ward Cleaver and start pumping out tax revenues just like the rest of us poor dumb working stiffs.

I mean, come on, 60 MOTHER FUCKING YEARS of a leg up, helping hand, little boost for 4 generations isn't NEARLY enough!

They're all parasites, hi order and low order. Bankers, Politicians, Academians, Old money philanthropists, all the way down to the EBT trash swilling their GMO wheat free groceries.  They are fucking defective.

 We need an international dose of fucking Ivermectin to kill them all off.  Or they'll kill us.   There's your 50 shades of gray, everything is relative choices.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:15 | 4547098 zerozulu
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Probability of remotely controlled toward tower cannot be ignored.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:05 | 4547280 Hippocratic Oaf
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There were a lot of Freescale Semiconductor (twenty-something I believe) engineers that were on that flight and no telling the cargo.

Add that to the mix. 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:13 | 4547338 Groundhog Day
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here's a very how about the very first plane jack I hear the plane parts such a pretty penny in the black market

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:05 | 4547070 unrulian
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as Spock always says,"when you eliminate all other possibilities the one that remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth" 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:15 | 4547099 slackrabbit
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First said by Scherlock Homes.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:31 | 4547139 shovelhead
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I think that was Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes who said that...

but close enough.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:12 | 4547333 knukles
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Didju guys know that Holmes was a Vulcan and Watson a transsexual Wookie?
Damn!

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 11:21 | 4548032 unrulian
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I know but it's better from Spock as i was replying to the alien abduction post.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:09 | 4547080 CSA
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I do... plane was flown off the original path to a new one.  Wherever it finally stopped is where we will find the plane.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:20 | 4547113 bsdetector
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Pratas Island, check it out on Google Earth. Several hundred miles SE of Hong Kong.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:30 | 4547136 magpie
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...or CIA/Uighur Airlines to Diego Garcia in the Chagos Archipelago...

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:56 | 4547578 French Frog
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It's been a while since Diego Garcia has been mentioned....

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 11:25 | 4548071 Urban Redneck
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I can't believe I haven't seen that one here before now, the tinfoil hats must be getting rusty, or those DG hangars are generating a ton of interference, as they can conveniently hide both a Boeing jet as well as OBL's long lost at sea corpse (for the next time its needed)...

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:18 | 4547108 zionhead101
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No fucking doubt this is a FEYNMAN moment, but that said, the Grey's didn't bring down 911, and the Grey's didn't bring down this Malay 777.

What's telling is "BOEING" silence, they're watching the RPM's of every aircraft in the world post 2000, and if a hick-up so happen it gets recorded live,... so you know that Boeing(microsoft) knowns all, and Chicago knows, any accident that all operations were moved from Seattle to Chicago ( Cass Sunstein ) I think think not. This is a made for AIPAC TV tele-drama.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:21 | 4547119 superflex
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A Harvey Weinstein Production.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:25 | 4547126 zionhead101
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Tarantino would call it 'KILL BILL 3', ... let's just hope the Chinese Corpses lead to Hitlery-2016.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:50 | 4547212 Leopold B. Scotch
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Don't understand what you're getting at with the Seattle to Chicago Cass Sustein reference.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:09 | 4547313 zionhead101
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A few years ago, maybe 10 years, the Seattle BOEING moved all their INTEL and corporate HQ to Chicago, and the very same bathhouses that Obama used to get fucked, is where the Boeing Exec's went to get Black Anal-Man-Pussy.

Just saying, ... follow the Boeing condom trail from Seattle, to Chicago, to DC, to Malaysia.

Just saying.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:28 | 4547135 MeMongo
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Maybe a single male passanger that was high on bathsalts leapt from his seat during his mental fugue state and screamed at the top of his lungs " Let's Roll" ,and the pilot took him literally:-)

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:01 | 4547265 lordbyroniv
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PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT............BITCHEZ !!!!!!111

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:06 | 4547291 Kirk2NCC1701
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Well, if, as you day, it was Aliens, then it was probably Clingons.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:33 | 4547463 lakecity55
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or their enemy, the clint-ons.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:39 | 4547486 virgule
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Here are some thoughts for you:

- Singapore is a major international flying hub, with hundreds of planes coming there daily, following the direction of the Malay peninsula on both sides

- Kuala Lumpur (and to smaller extent Penang too), is a  major international flying hub 400km north west of Singapore

- Bangkok is  huge international flying hub another 800km north west

- HCMC is another flying hub, less important by itself, but located at the crossroad of all air traffic towards China

- There is only small mountain range in the entire area around Ipoh region, less than 1,000m altitude at the peak.

- There is an airport every 200km along the coastline on both sides all the way up to Bangkok, each with recent civilian radar facilities. People take the plane in Malaysia / Thailand as often as people in San Francisco, New York or Paris do.

- The number of flights in the air at any one time in this area is huge. It's not rare to see other planes flying from your aisle window.

- Just the civilian side of air-traffic control cannot possibly have big gaps in coverage in that zone. It's impossible for them to loose a plane - unless the transponders have been deliberatly switched off. It would be really dodgy to fly such busy routes knowing that other planes can't see/avoid you.

What about the military:

- Malaysia has a reasonably modern army, with submarines, jets, helicopters, etc. and a history of military threat fom the north (communism area; still officially active threat until not long ago). They are also often nervous about little Singapore with its powerful airforce but very limited airspace. Hard to manouver a Singapore military jet without crossing over Malaysian territory. Malaysia might not be the best equipped army in the world, but they definitely have lots of gear and are actively monitoring their territory. The army is far from dumb; it gets training from USA and France among many others. Does anyone really think an unidentified aircraft flying outside of any planned route with transponders off, would be allowed to fly over Malaysia for one hour+ without any military plane going to take a peek?

It would definitely not be allowed if it is/was really the work of a unfriendly / unknown party.

It might be allowed, if for some reason the military knew at the time what was really going on though.

- Anyone who has visited a navy tactical command center such as the Jeanne d'Arc (which regularly docks in Port Klang near KL), has seen the **military** airplane tracking systems on the ceiling of the control rom, mapping every single flying object from south Indonesia to northern Vietnam and Indian ocean, all tracked in real time with various degrees of alert level, friend/foe colors, and human + computer traffic controllers always on 24x7 alert deciding if the command vessel is the possible target of a nearby aircraft - or not.All this relayed to/from satellites and AWACS systems which are always (need eyes in the sky to support & protect the naval command center; they're not just running on binoculars for their defence :-)

They have missiles and active defense systems always on - you never know when someome might decide to make you a target. It would be impossible for such command center to NOT see a civilian aircraft switching off its transponder, and NOT decide to raise the friend/foe alert level to something amber, that would immediatly flash alerts to the military of all the neighboring ally countries just in case (don't want to start WW3 by accident)

Having personnaly seen this several times, I cannot believe the military forces in the region did not track what was going on. If they keep quiet it's because they choose to - not because they don't know where the palne went.

- Finally, just in case someone highlights that Malaysia doens't have a Jeanne d'Arc docking everyday, there are enough military satellites in the sky over this area to see and record anything happening in the sky, especially if it's unusual. It if wasn't the case, then it means Malaysia or Vietnam or China could easily lob a missile or two at someone else...and no military satellite would ever find out what happened? Please...

My conclusion: there are military / government people out there who definitely know what happened, or at least where & when the plane went until it went really far out of range. It's complete BS when officials say they don't know for sure on which side of the peninsula it really went.

If they keep quiet it's because they choose to, and that can only be because either they are part of the plan, or they know about the plan but are not allowed to talk about it.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 10:17 | 4547716 French Frog
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How appropriate for a 'virgule' (comma) to come up with a refreshing look at the story and stops us from falling into one (coma).

As it's nearly always the case on ZH, the replies from contributors are worth a lot more than the original article (and I'm not dissing the article, just biggin'up some of the folks in 'ere).

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 12:13 | 4548319 creeko
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Best comment, by far, on this mysterious incident. 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 12:16 | 4548331 creeko
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The Strait of Malacca, one of the most strategic oil shipping lanes in the world, is being constantly monitored by radar and by other means.  There's no f--ing way an unidentified plane is allowed to cross that airspace without being intercepted. 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:56 | 4547585 TheReplacement
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Consider this:

Who COULD have done this?  It would take some insider knowledge, especially if the background satellite ping was turned off (versus the plane landing or crashing).  The logistics of stealing a huge plane like that certainly would be a limiting factor for potential actors.  They would need a few skilled people - disable the tracking systems, fly the plane, know where radar coverage was and was not.  Lots of things like that.

Look at the general path - toward the Indian ocean. There's not much out there.  There is one thing out there for sure.

Diego Garcia

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 15:02 | 4549099 sgt_doom
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Another awesome recap and summary, much thanx.

It is even more obvious today, than in the first 24 hours, that it is a sky heist, that something mighty valuable was on that jet.

What can be confirmed at this time (a commenter suggested a tontine patent, and that Blackstone and Carlyle were behind it, a possibility, but that as yet cannot be confirmed, if true, definitely insider knowledge) is that special handling instructions for sensitive digital electronics package were on the cargo manifest of a passenger jet (370), so one might assume that the engineers from Freescale Semiconductor (which is indeed owned by the Blackstone Group and Carlyle Group) were transporting some type of prototype to China.

But was it for manufacturing purposes, or to hand off to the Chinese government?

Or was this a sky heist by the Triads for themselves, or the Chinese gov't or Blackstone?

This is now the point of the mystery . . .

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:38 | 4550849 BillGrossJr.
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The plane is in the same place as the bitcoins

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:03 | 4547067 magpie
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"one gone horribly wrong"...uh right.

 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:14 | 4547069 Confused
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Too many competing interests for there to be one single "offical" story. 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:05 | 4547071 Incubus
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i look forward to the michael bay film next summer

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:14 | 4547343 knukles
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David Hasslehoff and Telly Savalis.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 10:32 | 4547809 TheReplacement
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Who loves ya baby?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:06 | 4547074 Ranger4564
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http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/03/case-closed-hijacked-by-awa...

 

Maybe it crashed, maybe it was diverted, maybe those on board were killed, maybe some of them are being tortured.

Wonder if there was anyone on board that is worth the kidnapping for negotiations / blackmail re the Ukraine / IMF SDR deal, etc.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:10 | 4547078 magpie
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Some people trying too hard to put a Korean Airlines spin on it...like the passengers are all alive but languishing in a Thai/Burmese/Cambodian gulag.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:09 | 4547081 Incubus
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bitcoin jesus was on that flight

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:33 | 4547148 johnQpublic
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no way, i've seen fonestars comments since this was taken,and i believe him to be THE bitcoin jesus

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:15 | 4547092 Ranger4564
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If they could kill 3500+ people on 9/11, why is it not probable they would kill 270+ people to achieve whatever evil plan they have?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:27 | 4547131 NoDebt
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If it was terrorism or false flag, the LAST thing you want is confusion, mystery and competing stories about what happened.  You want the obvious answer to rise quickly to the top and be accepted by all "credible" outlets to suit your aims before conspriacy theorists have too long to take a crack at what really happened.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:37 | 4547162 Big Corked Boots
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Unless, of course, you want everybody's attention.

People love a mystery.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:49 | 4547207 Ranger4564
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I didn't say the event has been completed. I'm saying the event is still to occur, the plane is just a small step.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:19 | 4547374 L_Conquistador
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If you somehow got these 200 human shields to the Iranian nuclear facilities, would you go public?  Or just tell the US, Chinese and Israeli government what you'd achieved?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:22 | 4547393 motorollin
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An official story will require "proof". That proof means giving up some of the extent of America's technological capabilities. That's not going to happen.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 10:34 | 4547822 TheReplacement
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If you wanted to do a nuclear false flag in the US what better way than to use a commercial jetliner.  You just need to capture one and reprogram its ID systems, refuel, load the bomb, fly it to US.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:31 | 4547456 lakecity55
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I still think Francois Truffaut will find it immaculate, in a desert.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 11:21 | 4548044 DannoH
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Nice "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" reference.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 12:41 | 4548447 creeko
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I think it's gonna show up in Central Park NYC tomorrow morning... and then there's gonna be some splainin' to do, Lucy!  :D

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:13 | 4547087 Peter Pan
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I am starting to wonder whether the plane actually took off in the first place.

Or has it landed somewhere, where it has subsequently been pulled apart for spare parts?

Or will it next show up when it is hurtling towards the Kremlin?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:17 | 4547103 zerozulu
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moved to next hanger and sold for parts?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:18 | 4547105 TheGermanGuy
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Maybe it´s not the plane but the passengers who have been pulled apart for spare parts. It´s a sick world we live in, remember.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:14 | 4547088 Smegley Wanxalot
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Al Gore and the envirowhacktards have the obvious excuse about this flight: 

Global Warming aka AGW aka Climate Change has caused the Bermuda Triangle to shift and expand its orientation on the planet, thereby taking down this Malaysian plane.  Relinquish all remaining liberties and freedoms now and give us money or the skies will forever be unsafe!  We told you so!!!!

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:14 | 4547089 Son of Captain Nemo
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Hey does anyone on here know if the plane "still missing" was ADS-B equipped?...

If it was then this isn't finding the "needle in the haystack" anymore!

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:14 | 4547090 zionhead101
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Occam's Razor need be applied, aka reduce to simplicity, and look at the victims, e.g. chinese tourists.

That said, ... IHMO the PTB, and in this case I'm talking those with Satellite INTEL know, and I'm not talking about PTB trillionaiares.

Here's the deal, this is all being setup to provoke CHINA/RUSSIA to react, so everybody is playing stupid, ... how long, ... IHMO its best to play stupid until OBAMA has a spontaneous human combustion, and note for the SS this is not an outside event, a human will SC when they become so full of shit, that shit has no where to go, ... think Mr.what's his face in life of Brian.

When a simple 777, becomes invisible to the system, you know all the players with 'eyes' are playing games, ... if the Chinese deduce first then they must respond, its in ASIAN (RUSSIAN/CHINESE) interest to let this fester and let dumb-fucks lead the source to the CIA.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:20 | 4547101 Azannoth
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A Boeing 777 is a Big Civilian Aircraft, it cannot go "Off Radar" simply by turning off it's on board electronics. Something stinks here big time.

And military radar tracks everything from 5m above ground to way over what a plane this type can fly, no way to evade it with a 777.

Was this possibly an attempt to re-create a 9/11 Event gone awry ?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:27 | 4547130 Winston Churchill
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Without the transponder on the radar reflection is easily lost in backgroud 'noise'.

We are talking civilian radar.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:40 | 4547157 Azannoth
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And I am talking Military Radar, .. than again maybe the Malasian "military" was on their lunch break? or alternatively their radars are worth shit

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:17 | 4547360 KidHorn
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There's this thing called curvature of the earth. many airplanes over the ocean cannot be tracked on radar because there's no direct line of sight. The military cannot track every plane at every location. They would have to have a network of boats spread out over every ocean and they don't.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:18 | 4547106 LoneStarHog
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The Boeing 777 also does an automatic download for maintenance data/schedules.  Apparently the individual(s) involved did not realize that this system existed.  It has been confirmed by Boeing that the download occurred approximately five hours into the flight or five hours subsequent to its disappearance.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:22 | 4547121 Azannoth
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Software bug? Somebody still coding in Fortran ? :)

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:50 | 4547215 King_Julian
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True. The pilots would have known this. It is possible to disable the satellite feed. That it wasn't, means something. The plane can carry a ridiculous amount of fuel, especially if you aren't carrying cargo. The problem is that with a higher gross weight you need a bigger runway for take-off. If you don't care about safety, something smaller will do. Still, you will be limited to mostly larger airfields. I'd estimate 6-8K feet would be adequate, without looking at charts. Here's my theory:

Everyone on that airplane is now dead, except for the hijacker(s).
The plane was flown to an airfield. It will be used to transport an EMP or nuclear device to a target. From somewhere in the Indian Ocean, a route to Europe would have to avoid enroute air defenses so anything IndoPak/Iran/Russia is out. I'd head for Africa then north for the Med and France. By the time someone ordered a shoot down, you could wipe out most electronics in Western Europe. Game over.

WWIII. Or zombie apocalypse.
S&P to the moon of course.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:00 | 4547257 Dr. Engali
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Interesting theory. I hope you're wrong, however if you're not I do plenty of cardio in preparation for zombies.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 10:14 | 4547696 Louie the Dog
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Are these the kind of zombies that can run or the foot dragging type you can poke with a sharp stick? 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 10:53 | 4547892 TheReplacement
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1.  Perhaps the attackers were not on the plane at all.

2.  Diego Garcia should have been in range.

3.  The people involved at Diego Garcia would have the resources and abilities necessary to pull it off.

4.  If you want to setup a nuke or EMP scenario then those resources are also available there as well as refueling and stealth tech.  Heck, surface transport wouldn't be out of the question either.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:19 | 4547109 Ban KKiller
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At what runways COULD it have landed at? 

Was a DICK Cheney on board or his Muppets? 

Short NSM.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:48 | 4547200 jaap
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You need some 3000ft. There are some 500 airstrips of that capability in the radius.

 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:29 | 4547442 1stepcloser
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diego garcia is my guess

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:20 | 4547111 Cacete de Ouro
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Theory AU: It could have been a gold heist. If China was quietly importing a series of gold shipments via Kuala Kumpur on passenger airlines, for example 20-30 tonnes at a time, then this pattern may have become known to various parties who then planned and pulled off a gold heist.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:50 | 4547210 jaap
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That is a nice one. They had a special exemption for a whole lot of batteries for that trip.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:52 | 4547227 Cacete de Ouro
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You were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off...not steal the entire bloody plane

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 11:38 | 4548125 Cacete de Ouro
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The cargo payload of a 777 on non-US routes is 25 tonnes. This is not including baggage. Baggage and passengers are another 33 tonnes, so that's ~ 58 tonnes in total.

25 'troy' tonnes of gold is about $1.25 billion. The plane itself is worth about $250 million new. So a cargo could be far more valuable than the plane.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 11:39 | 4548131 Cacete de Ouro
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Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:21 | 4547117 Carl Popper
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Now the ghost calls and active internet connections should be taken seriously.  

 

This appears to be a very smooth hijacking.  How does one crazy crew member overcome all the others so smoothly?   The lone psycho pilot theory doesn't make sense.   Two psycho suicidal pilots working together makes less sense.  

 

Five guys with guns could easily get thru Malaysian security.  They make our security look great in comparison. 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:51 | 4547222 effendi
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You don't try andget 5 guys with guns through security. Too big arisk of one being found andthe flight stopped.

A better option is having one person smuggle 5 (or more) guns and other fun devices (grenades, explosives, electronic jamming equipment) onto the plane. In flight catering or cleaning staff could pull that off. Then the 5 guys could go on board and retrieve the goodies from the galley or toilets.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:06 | 4547289 Carl Popper
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Good point.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:24 | 4547410 lakecity55
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I always fly with my roscoe. I load him up with glaser rounds. Of course, one must have a badge and permit. Anyone trying to hijack my flight is in for a surprise. Almost every retired leo I know does this. One time about 20 of us flew to DC for a tour. The pilot told us he felt pretty safe, but he said he was also packing.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 11:42 | 4548163 TheReplacement
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It would be pretty easy, trivial actually, to control the crew and passengers if you never boarded the plane and took control of the plane remotely.  There would be no hijacker for the crew/passengers to overpower.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:24 | 4547125 Dr. Engali
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One thing is certain, the only thing that will prevent this type of episode from happening again is another agency.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:34 | 4547150 Oleander
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Who took the plane? and more importantly-Who ordered the plane be shot down? They know where it went- they have been out there cleaning up the mess while distracting us with false info.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 11:43 | 4548170 TheReplacement
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To say it was shot down without evidence or knowing why is just leaping to conclusions.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:19 | 4547371 lakecity55
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The Transportation Navigation Security Agency was thus born.

Doc, please don't give them any ideas!

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:33 | 4547137 the not so migh...
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my guess is it depresserized, all uncouncious or dead and flew like a ghost plane till going in the drink.   Boeing has major defective plane

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:37 | 4547165 Carl Popper
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Explain the communications being shut off right after a last normal communication 7 minutes apart, the course change, etc. 

 

If anonymous sources can be trusted there were also several course changes as it followed beacons in the Asia middle east corridor. 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:54 | 4547203 Dr. Engali
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No way. Radar would have picked it up, and they would have been able to track the plane's beacon. This plane flew in low and the communications were turned off.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:55 | 4547239 the not so migh...
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where would it land?  unless they have some jungle airway no one knows about. 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:18 | 4547369 Dr. Engali
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That I don't know, but I am confident that this plane was stolen in some manner. probably for some nefarious reason later on. 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:33 | 4547146 arnoldsimage
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prepare to have your teeth pulled by the tsa searching for c4 implanted in your gums.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:33 | 4547147 Carl Popper
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That is 50 million bucks in body parts alone. 

 

Have to include the possibility of some really crazy shit.  

Although al Qaeda affiliated groups are proly the best organized.  Was it a practice run of a new technique?  

 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:34 | 4547152 youngman
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It is very strange...just think if it flew for antoher 5 hours..what were the people thinking..did they even know what was going on....panic...I would bet the eyes in the skies know where it is...but cant be released in normal channels to give away the goodies...seems like a hint to go to the Indian Ocean might be a start of it.....The Chinese photo was strange..they release it...then say it should not have been released....WTF...there has been many Pilots and engineers intervied on the night shows..and many of them have said this is very very strange....I hope we know soon....I am curious too

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:00 | 4547255 Oleander
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It took off at midnight so by the time it left course most were probably asleep.  If the copilot was in on the plot he could have

taken out the pilot and taken over the flight.  The chinese engineers were the prize. They plane was shot down because we do not negotiate with terrorists.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:36 | 4547158 Son of Captain Nemo
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"The radar return off the plane at Silver Island in the Malacca Straights was something the plotters did not expect. Absent that datum, everyone would presume the plane continued northeast. The evidence is piling up that the US commandeered the plane for an as-yet unknown purpose, and it was flown to Diego Garcia, the only runway in that part of the Pacific long enough to land the 777 safely and then allow a takeoff. The 777-200ER, fully fueled, can fly 7,700 Nautical Miles which puts all of the Middle East, most of Europe, including the Black Sea, in range of a flight departing Diego Garcia. Hardly surprising that FOX News brought in James Kallstrom, the Assistant Director of the FBI in charge of the cover-up of the US Nay's accidental shoot-down of TWA 800 to reassure us all that Malaysian flight 380 did crash into the ocean and not to pay attention to those kooky conspiracy theorists talking about tracks to Diego Garcia, ringing cell phones, and four hours of flight time after the transponders were switched off." ... Mike Rivero

http://www.cabaltimes.com/2014/03/12/ma370-redirected-to-diego-garcia/

Interesting theory!


Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:42 | 4547182 magpie
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If that theory is true...i wonder if the captured US military contractors on the plane were treated differently than the hoi polloi passengers/hostages.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:59 | 4547250 Son of Captain Nemo
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Good question.

Made me think of this

While one can only speculate on a "switch taking place that day" outside of the science which is irrefutable on the building(s) there was ample evidence that the numbers on the planes were traced backed to Hopkins in Cleveland.

Like it or not.  Some of us will do anything for "it"!

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:03 | 4547273 magpie
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Were those guys in on it ? Are they now slaving away for free as gnomes in a burrow for the USAF ? Or were they organ harvested like the others...

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:29 | 4547437 Son of Captain Nemo
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Or... Maybe the U.S. military has something akin to the inverse of the witness protection program for people who have either been in the covert world for at least 10 years of their life and can't leave and are given one last assignment before they start "a new life"?...

Maybe they're all kicking the white sand down there in Diego with Mai Tai's in hand, or -it's what you just said.

Either way.  Between the NSA and CIA they have enough blackmail on everyone that took the secret pinky swear initiation to start their budding careers in covert ops that they can do with them pretty much whatever they want.  Just ask the House and Senate Committee members who were investigating torture by the CIA and the military?

Too bad people can't do the right thing when they know they've chosen poorly?  And the same goes for the people that have their "backs"!

 

 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:38 | 4547477 magpie
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Just ask the retirees of Seal Team 6...

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:46 | 4547525 Son of Captain Nemo
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My favorite line in the movie "Unforgiven"

Kid we all got what is coming to us!...

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 10:30 | 4547798 FearLess_FLY
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"Take a drink kid."   

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 17:19 | 4549801 Toronto Kid
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No. If the US wanted a damn jumbo jet, they could grab any old jet any time they wanted. If they wanted a bunch of passengers they could grab 400 people off the streets of the US any time they wanted. And if they wanted a jumbo jet crashed in the ocean they could have hit it with a missile strike and we'd have found the plane by now. That is how powerful the US has become.

No, whoever did this, if it wasn't some sort of auto-pilot mishap, didn't have the oomph to go grabbing a jumbo jet any time they wanted. They had to hijack a jet, one full of totally-in-the-way passengers, to obtain one.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:38 | 4547167 Iocosus
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Diego Garcia is pretty close by and it has a huge runway.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:41 | 4547168 pazmaker
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The most important cargo on that plane was human life.  It appears to me that no matter how many theories exist, the tragedy is the lost life.  Someone's Mother, Father, Daughter, Son etc.   I have no doubt in my mind that the US Government, the Chinese Government and  probably many more KNOW EXACTLY where that plane went down, but how can anyone expect the PTB(Governments) to act in a moral manner and reveal the truth to us, when they have no morals, evident by the killing of innocents all over the wold by drones and proxie wars etc.

 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:44 | 4547509 zionhead101
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PTB(Governments)

Wow a new definition of PTB, and WHO controls the fucking gubmint(s)?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:28 | 4550434 noguess
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Well said.

Perhaps, perhaps, they do have morals, but the higher purpose made despicable acts necessary? Like in: the end justifies the means.

One cannot judge morals without knowing the cause. And then: who's cause.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:39 | 4547172 Bytor325
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i have a bad feeling this thing was flown to Pakistan-Middle East for a future terrorist use................to be packed with something that wont fit in a carry on.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:59 | 4547251 effendi
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That plane would need to be rebirthed or remain hidden. Doesn't make for a good bomb delivery system.

Easier option is to cheaply buy (or lease) a plane that has only afew months left of flying till it is due to go to a boneyard in the desert and as a registered plane it can openly fly to its destination to "deliver" a surprise.  

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:02 | 4547267 Aussie V
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That is what it's strting to look like to me also. A real Hijack by real Muslim terroists or, radicals who think they're working for their man but, maybe people who want to start WW3

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:05 | 4547285 RadioactiveRant
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Could it have got to Pakistan (let alone the ME) without showing up on Indian (Sri Lankan, Veitnamese,..) civilian radar?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:43 | 4547179 Bogdog
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The simplest explanation seems to be that the plane blew up and they haven't found the wreckage yet. The sources claiming telemetry had been received later and radar signals indicating westward flight, etc.. are not being properly attributed to a verifiable source. The sources are all over the map and contradictory.

So again, I go back the simplest explanation that it blew up where they initially lost contact and they just haven't found it yet. 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:46 | 4547197 nantucket
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the plane will be found at the crash site

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:50 | 4547219 B2u
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They can track everyone's cell phones but not an airplane?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:58 | 4547248 Azannoth
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Especially in good weather conditions

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:59 | 4547235 Carl Popper
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Well...... maybe it was a crazy Malaysian pilot.   They have been going postal over there for thousands of years.   "Amuk" is a Malay word.

 

To run amok is an old tradition lol.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:55 | 4547241 shovelhead
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Pilot and co-pilots names?

Oh Fuk Noe

Wei Giv Up

 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 08:59 | 4547252 Aussie V
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What about this scenario??

The plane is cleverly hijacked and landed somewhere in a "friendly" nation like Yemen, Pakistan, or ?? pick any Muslim nation that hates the US.

They hide the plane for some time and fill it with explosives and fly it into a target city in a few months time.

Is it that far fetched?? If it's not too far fetched..............what if they had a dirty bomb instead of just explosives?? Scary stuff if they can steal a plane straight out of the sky without a bloody trace.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:08 | 4547302 gatorengineer
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Alot of trouble when they could have just use a commercial freighter.....  but not entirely crazy.... I think it was pilot suicide.. Fly out into the ocean.

I suspect when the first class passenger manifest is known there will be something interesting there.

they know more than is being disclosed.  no radar within 200 miles of a coast... Really?

No tower trying to contact the plane?  No one noticed?  really?  doubt it

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 10:52 | 4547884 thestarl
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No bankers on board?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 09:12 | 4547332 lakecity55
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Sounds quite possible.

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