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The Tanks Are Coming While Russia, US "Remain At Odds" Over Ukraine

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With Interfax reporting that Belarus has begun full-scale military drills in a "readiness check", images from Russia and Ukraine suggest the worst-case scenario - that Russia is making preparations to invade Ukraine, not just Crimea but perhaps as far west as Kharkiv, or even beyond - is more possible. Talks have broken down:


Russia now has a massive force of tanks, troops, artillery, aircraft, and naval forces in position to potentially invade mainland Ukraine from Crimea in the south, but also from positions east and north of Ukraine.

Lavrov adds:


And subtley poitning out the hypocrisy:


Then Lavrov said this:


Which seems to run counter to the following images pouring in from across Russia of even more firepower on the move.


And images suggest more to come...


And finally:


Which we suspect is why all the tanks are rolling


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Fri, 03/14/2014 - 11:52 | 4548199 unrulian
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good weekend to take stock of your preps

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 11:58 | 4548212 Bunker Boy
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This is bad, bad, bad. For those of you thinking this is exciting, you will be wrong. If this goes hot, every single one of us will be terrified. The world has gone mad.

Do not long for the days of destruction, for the destruction may well be our own.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 11:58 | 4548231 NDXTrader
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Nah, the West will back down. Hitler took a lot of the old Getman territories before things got hot. My guess is Poland would be the red line again, although I doubt Putin wants it

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 12:05 | 4548270 Population Bubble
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Bubble, meet pin.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 12:11 | 4548276 Manthong
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Ah, those Rooskies are no match for our boys, girls and whatevers.

Just wait till they come up against our Special Force 55, the “Fighting Fairies”, 69th Battalion Battling Bull Dykes or the 10th Trannie Division.

Ivan is toast (with flavored lube spread on top).


The Brits have their contingent to send in as well.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 12:11 | 4548311 kliguy38
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General Janet Napolitano is organizing a special dyke brigade of some of the finest fighting women ever assembled. They are planning on going into every city of Crimea to target women for "liberation"........if they don't want liberation then they'll be plundered with predjudice....

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 12:42 | 4548455 Harlequin001
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Bloody hell, it looks cold out there.

Never mind, things should hot up soon enough eh...

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 12:48 | 4548473 Looney
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During the Potsdam Conference in August of 1945, Truman dropped a nuclear bomb on Hiroshima to make Stalin “more reasonable” on how to divide the post-war world. Isn’t it time for Obama-Kerry team to drop ANOTHER nuke on Hiroshima, before the Crimean Referendum, to make Putin “more reasonable”? ;-)

Looney (I ain’t got no stinky <sarc> key on my Commodore 64)

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 12:55 | 4548516 wearef_ckedwith...
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My biggest concern is that Russia and China see eye to eye and form an alliance.  That they then take down the dollar as reserve currency.  And a group of nations address the petrodollar.

IMO - our monetary policy as implemented by the FED solely for sociopathic banksters and the financial industry has already brought down the nation.  Just waiting for the death knoll.  And these banksters will not be treated kindly by the populace after the recent headlines about bonuses being higher than before the financial crisis that they caused.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 12:59 | 4548528 CheapBastard
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How dare they 'respect the will of the people.'

It's 2014. Who do they think they are?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:21 | 4548631 johnQpublic
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might as well go full nuclear

'what difference does it make'?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:38 | 4548702 Joe Davola
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Gonna be confusion and delay - they shunted Donald and his Coach to let the trucks and tanks past.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:44 | 4548723 Anusocracy
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Tanks for the warning, Russia.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:17 | 4548880 Fortunate Fool
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If the US thought about using drones in Ukraine the way they used them in Afghanistan, well, they'll have to think about it again...


From the French journal "Le Figaro" (via google translate):

Crimea: a U.S. drone was intercepted (Russia)

Russian arms Rostekhnologuii public group (Rostec) says a U.S. reconnaissance drone was intercepted at high altitude above the Crimea , in a statement released today. 

"The drone was flying at about 4,000 meters and was virtually invisible from the ground. It was possible to break the link with U.S. operators with complex radio-electronic AVTOBAZA fight," said Rostec. 

The unit raided and "fell almost intact in the hands of self-defense forces" Crimean added Rostec, which advises that the manufacturer of the electronic control used but does not specify who has used. "The UAV MQ-5B was, judging by its identification number, the 66th American military reconnaissance brigade, based in Bavaria," still indicates Rostec, which published a picture of the device on its website. 

The statement was, however, no longer available in the early evening.



Fri, 03/14/2014 - 15:08 | 4549128 cifo
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They are still using steam engines!

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 17:33 | 4549859 BigJim
Fri, 03/14/2014 - 18:01 | 4549948 Abi Normal
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Them thar is a lots o' tanks, trucks and apc's...hey, where ya'll headed fellas?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 18:25 | 4550035 Pure Evil
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BKbroiler sends his congratulations to all the



Fri, 03/14/2014 - 19:34 | 4550261 Abi Normal
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LOL, perfect!!  Had to give you an up for that fella!

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:49 | 4550499 Mister Kitty
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This is a bullshit pissing contest.  We'll destory Russia economically.  Dumb bastards.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 19:10 | 4550169 Soul Glow
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lol at citing buzzfeed.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 19:34 | 4550262 Sirius Wonderblast
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Good call - EMF's don't stop steam.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 00:21 | 4551154 Volkodav
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Sat, 03/15/2014 - 04:08 | 4551375 matrix2012
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Only the real dumbass takes the victory over the firearmed cavemen in kabul as a show of might! lol

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:30 | 4548945 Unknown User
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The US right now is making promises to the Ukrainian unelected poppet President just like they did to Saddam Hussein before invading Iraq. The plan is mind-numbingly simple. Ukraine will attack Russia and blame it for starting a war. Then when Putin takes Ukraine by force, prevent him from annexing it under the guise of a war of aggression. Thus without getting their own hands dirty they will achieve both spreading debt-slavery, and get to keep Ukraine which they can’t do right now in the South-East under the current government.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:40 | 4548988 RonBurgundy
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Beware the Ides of March....

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 19:11 | 4550173 Soul Glow
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Beware that the people with the nuclear bombs are fucking insane.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:48 | 4548746 Abitdodgie
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I know you will think this is out there but I think this war will be started and the final goal will be the taking of the guns from the Americans , Russia ,China, and the American Government will work together to do this , all these idiots are working together for one common goal , a one world Government, out of the ashes will rise a new order . They cannot get that whilst Americans are armed to the teeth, so the easyest way of getting the guns is to kill us. There is 159 million households in america do you know how long it would take for serches on each one ,its a lot easyer to kill a million people than to control a million people . Russia will drop a nuke in America or some sort of bullshit and then the clensing will start.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:12 | 4548866 kchrisc
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" There is 159 million households in america do you know how long it would take for serches on each one."

And many, many gardens too.


"It was easy. I shot them while they were digging."

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 18:17 | 4550007 Abi Normal
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Dang, that Onion Revolt!

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 15:52 | 4549386 RafterManFMJ
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Just waiting for the death knoll.

I believe the death knoll is located in Dallas.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 17:24 | 4549816 sleigher
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Is this not why we provoked this in the first place?  Either its time for the dollar to go and we know it so we need a "reason".  Or, we have to defend it to the death as USA is toast otherwise.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 18:44 | 4550096 Philalethian
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"My biggest concern is that Russia and China see eye to eye and form an alliance."


Seems that if this report is true...the Chinese military might DO the right thing and take out the rothdchild/rockotfeller/mauricee strongg BANKSTER babylonians that have infected China. If this were to happen, it could be an example to the rest of the world militaries that have children and families they would like to go home to and maybe raise a garden, or do something they like to do instead of being ordered to kill and murder innocents all over the world so a few can profit and powermonger.



Fri, 03/14/2014 - 19:07 | 4550159 richsob
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I despise bankers as much as the next guy does so I won't defend them.  Maybe even more since I've had to deal with that industry in one form or another for over 35 years.  However, the total GDP of Russia and China put together is about $10 Trillion.  The total GDP of the U.S. + E.U. + U.K. is about $37 Trillion.  If you count other potential Western allies (Mexico, South Korea, Taiwan, Australia, etc.) that goes up to about $50 Trillion.  I hope things cool down but if Putin throws a punch we'll soon see if he can take one too.  All the pain won't be on just one side of the equation.  I've seen some economic game planning done on computers by some damn smart people and the damage to Russia and China wouldn't be worth it.  And the West doesn't need a financial shit storm either.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 19:49 | 4550308 InvalidID
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 I wanna add to this if I may. Russian companies rely far more on Western banks than the west relies on Russia. Huge deals to fund Russias largest companies are in limbo right now as banks aren't sure of loaning them money is such a good idea. The Russian market is in the shitter and Russian Bonds are fast becoming TP.... Lets see if ol Putty Pute has the long term vision, and the over all know how. Or is he a one trick military pony with no real brains....

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:32 | 4550646 Independent
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Invalid type reasoning, you fail to understand that energy underpins any economy, if you have gas and oil life moves on, Russia has diesel for its tractors and gasoline for its cars and oil for plastics and so on and so on.  It is very self reliant, Putin has done what the Chinese did, protect the local market by insisting on joint ventures with foreign companies.  All that equipment is in Russia and its not going out.  Maybe their economy wont grow or maybe it still will without the west.  Rest assured the world is a finite place and so are the resources, the WEST needs Russian oil and gas just as much as the other countries around the world.  The Euros are playing a dangerous game the USA has dragged them into, that is why Nuland was frustrated with the Euro reticence.  They know how easily Europeans can take to the streets without Nuland's cookies being handed out.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:47 | 4550692 InvalidID
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 Russia will have nat gas for sure. Food not so much. The US doesn't need Russia for anything, Europe doesn't need Russia once the pipelines from Libya and other African points are finished. But food...

 The world does run on fuel, people do as well.

 This is why Putin is so angry. He knows the west has marginalized him. It's why Ukraine and Syria are such sticking points. It's why Putin will walk away from Iran long before Ukraine or Syria. A pipe line through Syria from the Mid East is the death of Russian leverage. The loss of control over the Ukraine pipeline cuts over half of Russian tranport. If Ukraine falls, Belarous may follow. The US has little to lose, the EU has slightly more, but still, Russian gas isn't as important to them as it was even a year ago. It'll be less important this winter coming.


 No, Russia lashed out with military force because it has no other leverage.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:48 | 4550851 Independent
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Russia has a ton of arable land even without ukraine, yeah they wont have oranges and pineapple but they can grow, wheat, potatoes, tomatoes etc...

If they do get ukraine you can consider they got the breadbasket of Europe in hand.  Crimea is semitropical, lots of stuff can grow there, very good grapes also.  And pipelines underwater can be very susceptible to sub sabotage.

Regardless Euros are suffering pretty bad as it is, rampant unemployment etc, any more economic slowdown and price increases and you can be sure they will be on the streets and breaking parliment windows in Euro capitals demanding end to sanctions.

I have relatives in Europe and they are griping nonstop how bad it is there and so expensive, have an aunt that closed her house down cause she couldnt afford to keep it warm because of high gas prices and she moved in with other family to save money.  They can only take so much. While she was gone she had all her furniture stolen.  An economic slowdown because of USA's desire to destabilize Ukraine will not go down well and unlike the USA sheeple Euros know what is going on.

In the News in Eastern Europe there investigative journalists found out that US companies like Cargill, etc go around and buy up grain from farmers and then artificially create shortages to drive up pricing by warehousing a lot of the grain outside of the targeted country, then they trickle it back in.  People are really pissed up with America.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:49 | 4550895 InvalidID
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 Most of Russia's arable land is already in use. What's not in use is in the middle of nowhere, without the needed infrastructure to make it useful. In the next 5-10 years Russia is dependent on others for food and there's no way around that. It wouldn't take that long for Russians to get pretty tired of being hungry. Hell, in 2008 (latest #s I can find) Russia imported 3 times more than it exported in food. Besides gas and oil what does Russia have to trade? (Brides don't count)

 There's no way NATO will allow Russia to take the rest of Ukraine. They don't care about Crimea enough to fight a war for it, but I'm willing to bet they'd fight for the rest of Ukraine. Strategic value of Ukraine is much higher than Crimea.


 If it's sabotage we're getting into, Russia isn't immune either is it? Bridges, subways, etc, and thousands of Ukrainian Russian speaking peoples that would blend right in? Terrorism is a dangerous game...

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:04 | 4550919 Independent
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Dont talk if you dont know what you are saying:

What are the key challenges facing Russian growers?

Our farming side predominantly operates in the Krasnodar region in southern Russia (see map, right) where the land bank totals 86,000ha. The Krasnodar region has been experiencing climate change for several years, moving from a moderate continental climate to a more extreme continental one.

We are experiencing an increase in our average temperature, uneven rainfall and in spring we frequently face hail storms, hot winds and dust storms. This has led to increased risk as it makes planning very difficult

Unfavourable weather in 2012 meant the Russian cereal crop declined by almost 25%. However, Russia’s sheer size and variety of climate zones means agricultural production can, to an extent, be future proofed. Production can relocate from the south to other regions in the event of significant climate change in the future.

What potential is there for raising Russian production?

Russia has the potential to double its grain harvest. The country has 115m hectares of agricultural land, of which 25m hectares are idle. I think we can reap between 150-170m tonnes of grain, compared with 85-90m tonnes in recent seasons, by putting it into use, introducing new production methods and better management systems.

By 2012, Russia had become the world’s fifth largest wheat exporter and our land availability means there is further room for growth.
Is there much overseas investment (buying of land) such as from the UK?

No, there is not, despite the fact it costs as little as €1,500-2,000/ha (£1,260-1,680/ha). There are only a few examples of foreign companies investing in Russian agriculture. However, thanks to the World Trade Organisation accession, we will start to see foreign companies entering the market with cutting edge technologies and investment.

Do you see Russia becoming the world’s number one cereal producer? And what role will it have in meeting rising global food demand?

Russia has 25m hectares of uncultivated agricultural land, giving it the potential to become the world’s number one cereal producer. This would allow Russia to help bridge the global gap between food supply and rising demand. 

Russia has many rivers, if it puts money into infrastructure and irrigation it can increase output considerably.  I see Russia has Crimea back and where are your Nato troops?

The rest of Ukraine is waiting for Russia to come in and guarantee the rights of Russians to have referendums in other parts of the country.  Nato can do nothing because public opinion in Nato countries is against interference and there are referendum movements in Scotland, Spain etc.

So even with a 25% decline they were still the fifth largest exporter.  That is grain though only, remember there are many other food crops

Look at USA drought and California, they have been severely affected and prices are going up in the USA, global weather affects everyone dummy.

Also Ukraine needs to sell grain for fuel. where are they going to get gas and oil?  From the Euros who are starving lol.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:07 | 4550950 InvalidID
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 Read all of what you posted again. Russia has the potential to double it's production. That doesn't happen over night, it would take several years to make that a reality. With climate change Russia is currently having trouble with it's crops. Foreign companies will start to enter the market with cutting edge technologies and investment? You really think that's going to happen if Russia gets cut off because it wants to seize Crimea?

 You've just reenforced my main point. Russia has more to lose than to gain from this move. Putin feels marginalized on the world stage and is lashing out, like a child. In essence tipping the chess board onto the floor before the game is over....


 All in all, we will see what happens. Nothing you or I can do to change it anyway.


 EDIT: You added the bit about Ukraine needing oil and needing to sell food to buy oil. You then asked who they would sell it to, the starving Europeans?... Um... Yeah, that seems to make perfect sense to me. Ukraine has food and Europe needs food? Are you kidding? Even my children would understand this concept.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:18 | 4550957 Independent
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USA is hit by drought also what part of global dont you understand.  I know what I put down.  I dont put rose glasses on, but even with things being bad the Russians have it better than USA or Europe.  Russia has the largest reserves of fresh water in the world.  Lake Baikal alone has 1/5 of worlds fresh water.

Droughts have hit Brazil hard and California really hard also.  Russia even though hit still has surplus and if they irrigate better with all their fresh water and rivers to supply it they stand better than anyone in world.

By 2012, Russia had become the world’s fifth largest wheat exporter and our land availability means there is further room for growth. 

This is even with their weather problems which are shared by USA

In 2012, much of the US had drought conditions develop through the late Winter and Spring months and lasting into the Summer, creating the 2012 North American drought. Meanwhile, severe to extreme drought developed in the lower Midwest and Ohio Valley as well as the southern and central Rockies. This led to large wildfires in Colorado including the record setting Waldo Canyon fire, the most destructive in Colorado history. Drought conditions have led to numerous firework show cancellations and voluntary water restrictions in much of the Ozarks, Mid Mississippi and Ohio River Valleys. Lagging effects of La Nina, Climate Change, and also a large persistent upper level ridge of high pressure present over much of North America since the late Winter have all contributed to the drought and above average temperatures since February 2012. The combination of high heat and severe drought has resulted in weather patterns not seen since 1988, 1954, and the Dust Bowl and Great Depression years of the 1930s to some areas, especially the lower Midwest. Because the drought conditions were forcing American farmers to sell off livestock, the Department of Defense sought to buy up meat at "fire sale" prices in order to stockpile meals for the lean times ahead.[47]

High wheat prices caused by the drought have discouraged farmers from investing in alternative drought-tolerant crops

The whole world is hurting but big countries like Russia and USA and Canada will fare the best, all the other places in the world will suffer.

Global warming has increased the growing season in Alaska by one month.  Much of Russia is at level of Alaskia, they benefit from global warming also, Russia is awash with many rivers, look up on a map rivers of Russia

Does the USA have 25m hectares sitting ildly that it can call into production?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:20 | 4550987 InvalidID
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 If you're going to post something please stop going back and adding to it. It's hard to have a conversation with you when you add things after posting.


 Anyway. I do agree with you that much of the world is seeing climate troubles. This harsh winter will have made a large decline in the drought conditions in America, but we will have to see what kind of weather spring will bring. The weather could make it difficult to plant this spring if the ground stays very wet late into spring. But this is all long term talk. In the near term, America will produce all the food it needs and more while Russia will be forced to import food. 10 years from now? Who can say? We have to deal with the here and now though, next 2-3 years. (And WHY won't America stop with all the damned corn!? Less corn and more FOOD!)



Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:26 | 4550995 Independent
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I cant edit my comments once someone reads and posts a reply to it so what is the problem

Ok Just look at a map and see how HUGE Russia is.  Tell me how are they going to have shortages of anything before anyone else on this Planet ??????????

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:27 | 4551004 InvalidID
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 It's difficult to reply to something if you add to it while I'm typing. I can't see when you've added something until after I've posted.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:31 | 4551012 Independent
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Ok so back to our discussion, you are being rather negative on Russia and not acknowledging the facts.  Dont forget also that Russia has some of the best fishing rights waters in the world. Not to mention lots of deer :)

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:37 | 4551036 InvalidID
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 I agree on fishing but deer I don't think will feed the entire nation. Alaska has a lot of elk and other game but I don't think America would rely on it for sustanance.

 I'm not trying to be negative on Russia. I'm trying to point out that I don't think this was the best move for Russia, yet. More investment in infrastructure should have happened first. More of the arable land should have been brought into production first. Perhaps pipelines to send gas and oil to China as well. These things would have given Russia a lot more leverage, and a hedge against the west.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:31 | 4551020 InvalidID
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 Look at a map of Australia, China, Africa, Antarctica and see how huge they are as well. All have shortages of something yes?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:37 | 4551032 Independent
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Russia is the largest country in the world; it covers a vast amount of topographically varied territory, including much that is inaccessible by conventional modes of transportation. The traditional centers of economic activity are almost exclusively located in the more hospitable European part of Russia, which once offered considerable coal and natural gas to drive heavy industry (see fig. 7). But the European fuel base was largely depleted by the 1980s, forcing Russia to rely on Siberian deposits much farther from the industrial heartland.

Russia is one of the world's richest countries in raw materials, many of which are significant inputs for an industrial economy. Russia accounts for around 20 percent of the world's production of oil and natural gas and possesses large reserves of both fuels. This abundance has made Russia virtually self-sufficient in energy and a large-scale exporter of fuels. Oil and gas were primary hard-currency earners for the Soviet Union, and they remain so for the Russian Federation. Russia also is self-sufficient in nearly all major industrial raw materials and has at least some reserves of every industrially valuable nonfuel mineral--even after the productive mines of Ukraine, Kazakstan, and Uzbekistan no longer were directly accessible. Tin, tungsten, bauxite, and mercury were among the few natural materials imported in the Soviet period. Russia possesses rich reserves of iron ore, manganese, chromium, nickel, platinum, titanium, copper, tin, lead, tungsten, diamonds, phosphates, and gold, and the forests of Siberia contain an estimated one-fifth of the world's timber, mainly conifers (see fig. 8; Environmental Conditions, ch. 3).

The iron ore deposits of the Kursk Magnetic Anomaly, close to the Ukrainian border in the southwest, are believed to contain one-sixth of the world's total reserves. Intensive exploitation began there in the 1950s. Other large iron ore deposits are located in the Kola Peninsula, Karelia, south-central Siberia, and the Far East. The largest copper deposits are located in the Kola Peninsula and the Urals, and lead and zinc are found in North Ossetia.

I guess some do better than others, LOL

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:54 | 4551039 Independent
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This is why the Tribe and the USA have such a hard-on for Russia and why no country can ever succeed with a naval or economic blockade of Russia lol. The world needs Russia, Russia does not need the world !!!!

You said deer not enough, look at size of Russia, also in US yeah could be a lot more deer if there were less cattle.  Dont forget who is eating the grass 

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 09:36 | 4551607 post turtle saver
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bwahahahahahahaha you are completely ignorant if you think the US lacks deer because of cattle production... this statement proves you have NEVER been to the US and know absolutely jack shit about it

county and state parks all over the US have to have planned hunts to cull the deer population... there are so many of them that they threaten forest preserves since they strip bark off the trees to feed during winter... "no limit", bitchez

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 09:33 | 4551599 post turtle saver
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The top exporter bar none for ag products is the US... 50% of corn and soy export market, 18% of wheat...

Having land is not enough, you need tech and logistics to drive yields and efficient market delivery... Russia sucks hind tit when it comes to that

I've lost track of the number of Russian, Chinese, Brazilian, and Indian farmers and ag execs I've seen at US farm expos over the course of the years... desperately trying to learn from the _true_ master of ag power in the world which is the US of A... the Illinois State Fair a few years back looked like Chinatown fer cryin' out loud

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:08 | 4550367 Schaublin
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How much does Facebook and Google contribute to "GDP" and how exactly does Banking contribute  and so on - and how exactly do you convert Facebook likes and algo trading into cold, hard, real war material production?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:37 | 4550467 Bent Nail
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GDP is a romatic notion of output of a country contrived by the bean counters. Let's imagine a certain country must produce munitions, warships, tanks, etc. Do you suppose a service economy that exported their manufacturing expertise and infrastructure will be up to the task of outproducing munitions, warships, tanks, etc of their foe? If not, then there is always the ____ option.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 11:38 | 4551811 GS-DickinDaMuppets
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"And these banksters will not be treated kindly by the populace after the recent headlines about bonuses being higher than before the financial crisis that they caused."

I have news for you...99% of the sheeple don't have a clue that bankers bonuses were higher in the current quarter than in the previous quarter.

Go into any WalMart and start asking people if they are really pissed-off  about the "Bankers" getting higher bonuses this period than previous period...I can just imagine the replies you will get.


Fri, 03/14/2014 - 12:29 | 4548396 Headbanger
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I was going to say something seriosu like "That's a lot of armor! Why did we ever stop making the A-10 Warthog!??"

But never mind.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 12:38 | 4548437 Vampyroteuthis ...
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 Why did we ever stop making the A-10 Warthog!??"

Simple answer, it is effective and cheap. Our Congresscritters love throwing away money at worthless, overpriced technology * cough F-35 * than use a well known, practicle weapon.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:43 | 4548715 Manthong
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<<< A-10 Warthog

<<< Comfy 1G trailer with coffee and joystick

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 18:26 | 4550039 angel_of_joy
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Have you ever tried to hack an A-10 ?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:52 | 4549050 seataka
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Psychologically and physically, the "look and feel" of the Warthog was all predator.

Watching it pop up over a treeline coming at you is a religious experience as in:


Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:59 | 4549083 JoBob
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Seataka: Absolutely agree! I had that experience once. A lot was going on and I had no idea it was there. I swear it popped straight up and for the first instant, it looked like a really mean alien machine.

They make a lot of noise when doing their thing, don't they?

"Sounds like...victory"


Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:22 | 4548904 Jack Burton
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A-10? Never flown against an enemy. It has flown against forces unequipped with any air defense. I am willing to bet A-10 pilots would fly one mission, TOR M2 would respond, A-10 would never fly again. Pilots would mutiny, just like B-52 pilots after Russian anti aircraft missiles shot 10+ B-52's down over Hanoi. Real war is a bitch, that is why USA does not fight wars. Slaughters yes, wars, no.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:41 | 4548992 disabledvet
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you seem to be implying that the USA is the attacking force and the Russians are defending.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:49 | 4549029 ersatzteil
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Correct, Russia defending its sphere of influence, while the USA has to deploy from half a world a way. Even if Russia does push around its neighbors, and it doesn't seem "fair", its still Russia's backyard.

Nobody says boo when the USA pushes around its neighbors, as is the USA's right. That's the world we live in, might is right, the strong dictate to the weak and carve out areas of influence.

I finished caring about defending the "weak" or what may be moraly "right" a long time ago. Glory and passion ends in high school; life is an f'ing business.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:58 | 4549078 Herd Redirectio...
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Yep, A-10 has no air-to-air weaponry, all air-to-ground.  So can only be used with Air Superiority.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 17:24 | 4549814 disabledvet
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"stand off weapon systems."

If Russia attacks I can see an offensive option here.
Haven't heard of any requests for Patriot Missile Batteries.
Probably was discussed and politely turned down.

Those things are mobile though. Plus you have to control of the entire Black Sea. Ticonderoga Class Missile Cruisers have only one purpose.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 17:33 | 4549854 BigJim
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To be sunk by Russian anti-ship missiles?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:20 | 4550597 disabledvet
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well...that might be true...but what also might be true this whole thing will be run "via computer" and the only person Putin and his "orders" are playing against are a computer.

In other words "are your missiles to be launched by humans or machine?" would be my first question.
If you say "humans" then I would say "you have a problem already" because it takes time for humans to both act...and react. And this can...and in fact is...measured.

That what is meant by "stand off weapon systems."
They provide "time" for the target to react because their range is so large. "The Black Sea is quite large" as well. If you have a problem with your communication system ("human error") then in theory you could simply put the system on "auto destruct" so to speak and see how big the "error rate" in fact is "and launch a strike before the enemy even has a chance to fire."

And that would be while using only one ship...with perhaps de minimus crew.

This is also a NETWORKED "targeting a single entity" alerts an entire Armada to your presence. In other words "you and your missile will have to take out the entire fleet" because if you fail in that task "the entire fleet will target you."

And that's just the stuff I've read about. Who knows what 12 years of "lessons learned" has meant.
I do know "the Navy is not on the sidelines anymore."
It is an interesting question as to why President Putin would be the first to attack though.
There was no threat obviously...does he even have a plan?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 18:04 | 4549960 MeMadMax
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A-10 has provisions for 2 or 4 Aim-9 Sidewinders.

And it has an ECM pod as well.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:26 | 4550624 disabledvet
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this place better not be as retarded about war as it is about equities.
The USA was already in Baghdad by this point in the "aggression."

And that's AFTER going to the UN and Congress and getting authorization and WITH public support..and even BROADCASTING to Saddam Hussein..."we're coming." Russia has done none of this.

That was halfway around the world. Ukraine is literally "right there." I do agree "this war material is clearly not headed to Moscow."

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 19:51 | 4550315 NuckingFuts
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Sad, but true. Life is a f'n business.... With really shitty bosses and you are not in their "union".

Maybe I shouldn't have had kids.... But I am selfish and I love them, but God the shit they have to look forward to is a bitch. Do you break it to them pre-teen when they still might believe you.... Or do you just let life crush the dreams in the school of hardnocks

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 19:52 | 4550316 NuckingFuts
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Dup.... Bitchez

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 19:53 | 4550317 NuckingFuts
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Dup again bitchez

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 18:24 | 4550029 Abi Normal
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Wrong, the a-10 wart hog will take a lot of damage and keep is devastating to armor units! It doesn't have to go against much akak when in the field, that is for the F-18 and stealth, radar jammers to do.  a-10's come in behind, with the helo units, lots of firepower there too.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 19:20 | 4550200 drdolittle
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Why did we stop making the a 10? Why did our last lead smelter get shut down by the EPA? Are we being set up to lose?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 19:31 | 4550247 Abi Normal
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Bingo, you just won a coffee maker!

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 13:53 | 4552227 Clycntct
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Made in PRC.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 19:52 | 4550319 newbie vampire
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Betcha Putin's crapped in his pants, knowing those elite special forces are cumming.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 19:56 | 4550330 New_Meat
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bet not ;-(

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 19:52 | 4550321 newbie vampire
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Betcha Putin's crapped in his pants, knowing those elite special forces are cumming.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 19:56 | 4550334 New_Meat
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still bet not

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 20:52 | 4550509 DanDaley
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Just wait till they come up against our Special Force 55, the “Fighting Fairies”, 69th Battalion Battling Bull Dykes or the 10th Trannie Division.


What the heck do Russians know about being FABULOUS?...I mean, really O-M-G!

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 04:45 | 4551386 USisCorrupt
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Russia is no match for our Boys and Girls? Why would OUR Boys and Girls even care to partake in the Puppet Masters games? It is not about the People, its all about energy distribution, power & Wealth. 

Let's NOT forget Russia has been one step ahead of the US up until now. It seems that Snowden has given Putin access to the NSA's network and knows what the US has planned ahead of time "voice recordings & email". Which in and of itself could cause a problem if countered with misinformation. And just yesterday Russia took down a US Drone in Crimea with an EMP device and its fully intact. The US has deployed their own hardware and Russia has theirs. 

It is time for the currency reset, PetroGold, PetroRubble & PetroYuan will be the start. Iran paved the way. The results are already known for the Banker's now just have there Puppet's playing out their game for the Sheeple conversion. The end results will be a much lower standard of living for those in the US, my main concern is just who will be the ones calling the shots. I for one am tired of the Slavery that has taken place and wonder what freedom is anymore.

What level of Slave are YOU?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 12:13 | 4548322 Independent
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Guys its not an invasion, you saw the snow, its a military vacation after the exercises to warm weather in Crimea and Southern Ukraine.  Bring the Beach Towels and the amphibious vehicles, see ya there, kisses.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:00 | 4548535 HyBrasilian
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Obama will be distracted working on his [brackets] during the invasion...

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 19:33 | 4550251 Abi Normal
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bwahahahahahh, brackets....I really wish he'd go on another vacation!

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 18:25 | 4550037 Abi Normal
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I doubt Vlad the Lad will invade, but I have heard politicians say one thing and do another, way too many times!

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 18:35 | 4550067 FilthyHabits
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You forgot about the girls from Czech... Need those too..

Isn't that what this is all about anyways?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 19:59 | 4550344 newbie vampire
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Ya mean on top of cutting off the supply of them Russki and Ukrainian hotties ?

Kerry's not going to let them git away with it.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 12:54 | 4548508 European American
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"Nah, the West will back down."


So, you know how Psychopaths think?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:36 | 4548693 Herd Redirectio...
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The psychopaths are mostly in the financial and political seats of power, not military.  Sure, there are some thugs in the military and law enforcement, and sure, many generals have recently been replaced, but I don't see the armed forces taking kindly to being shoved into this sort of conflict.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 16:00 | 4549425 Arrowshot
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They are just as interested in getting some of the psychopaths out as the normal American or at least a large number of them are. Keep wondering at what point some senior members of the US military with the right connections decide America might not survive much more of this and initiate some type of action.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 19:40 | 4550282 Clever Name
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Maybe I'm wrong, but I dont recall hearing about many soliders refusing to fight when we went into Iraq/Afganistan?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 17:16 | 4549785 FreedomGuy
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Obama-Kerry send strong words and Putin sends troops.

Obama-Kerry sends stern looks and noble platitudes and Putin shoots down a drone.

Obama-Kerry send a whole six extra aircraft to the Baltic States a thousand miles away and Putin sends 21 aircraft and a hundred thousand troops to the borders of Ukraine at ground zero.

Make your own extrapolations.


Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:33 | 4548681 Nexus789
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What are baaling on about As this isituation s nothing like what you describe.

The fuckwits in washington have creatrd a clear abd direct threat to the russian nation. They are inept.

Not so easy to be the worlds bully when the other guy has some big nukes. The russians are using hard power.

If any nation is tending toward being fascist it is the US



Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:57 | 4548719 Ifigenia
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It was not Putin who throw an democratic elected President in Kiev, It was Vitoria Nulland, a female Hitler. And now where is she to clean the mess (that could turn nuclear) that affect all human beings? 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:05 | 4548829 bobnoxy
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As soon as all the major powers figure out who gets what, how the loot gets split, it'll all calm right back down. Relax.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:07 | 4548840 zaphod
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The west does not have the human resources to fight Putin and Putin knows this, he could march right into Poland and the US/West would do nothing.

Serious who is there to draft and fight? The millenials?!?! They would collectively refuse. Our EU allies?!?! If anything our post 9/11 co-engagements taught the US was that EU's armies are completely useless at this point.

The West has lost all ability to fight, once the world sees this things are going to change very quickly.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:46 | 4549018 disabledvet
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And the Russians do?
"This is why we have diplomacy"...there are certain things we can all agree on here.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 18:33 | 4550060 Freddie
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Millenials?  LOL!  If they could do selfies and update their Facebook page between breaks in the war.

No one is going to fight in the West except maybe the Poles.  The US military has been wrecked.   They have junk weapons now too.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:49 | 4549034 Herodotus
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Not even Putin would want a bunch of Polacks.


Sat, 03/15/2014 - 01:38 | 4551280 Againstthelie
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There are no Russians in Poland that could be massacred - but in Ukraine. Ukraine today is the Globalist's tool Poland was in 1939.

And Russia is in Germany's position. Equally encircled and not willing to let the Globalists rule the country again.

All that is missing now, is another promise or treaty of "unconditional support" - this time for Ukraine - and then a few massacres of Russians - just like the Poles did in 1939.

I think it is a very dangerous situation, not because it must become hot immediately, but because of the fact, that the real reason behind this all in Ukraine is that the globalists want a regime change in Russia and want it back under ZOG control.

Just like in the 1930s: Germany's new international barter trade system was a huge success while the plutocratic regimes were drowning in unemployment and losing market share. And Germany was not willing to accept the Globalist's hegemony again.

Lots of similarities and since one side demands the whole world, while the other side wants to preserve it's freedom and souvereignity.

Since Putin removed the alien grip on Russia, the ZOGs have been encircling Russia for 10 years. Why should they stop now, when it seems they finally got Ukraine under their controlat the second try and are moving closer to the Russian borders?

Either Russia gives in to the Globalists NWO or the world is heading torwards a conflict. And this could be the last and final battle, the last chance humanity has, to prevent the Globalist's final goal: World Government and destruction of all homogenous nations and their cultures - except one...

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 01:41 | 4551287 Johnny Cocknballs
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At great cost, but without any doubt, Mordor will fall.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 01:55 | 4551297 Againstthelie
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I wish I could share your optimism. But so far in history "Mordor" has only become stronger and stronger while the number of independent nations on our planet have been shrinking and shrinking and the remaining European nations are already close to genetic extinction.

The death sentence over Putin seems to be spoken already: Obama said, he had placed himself on the wrong side of history.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 11:59 | 4548237 Thought Processor
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I'm sure this will all just blow over soon.  I mean who in their right mind would want a devestating, no win war, that forces a reset of the entire world financial system?


Wait a minute........ 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 12:08 | 4548291 BLOTTO
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I still say the powder keg will come from something in the middle east...where civilization began.


Maybe this flexing and manouvering is to position themselves for something down the road - else where.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 12:20 | 4548342 john39
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reports out this week suggest a new coordinated offensive against Syria by the usual suspects.  Syria is another red line for Russia and Iran.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:20 | 4548621 BLOTTO
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John39...Russia/Iran(Persia)/Libya/Sudan(Islamic)/Turkey vs. Israel ?



Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:35 | 4548963 john39
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it certainly looks like someone is trying to guide world events to fit certain scriptures.  problem is that most people are not very perceptive regarding the level of deception going on.   Anyway, sheikh Imran has covered this topic quite well in many videos.  well worth a watch.  He reads islamic prophecy as fortelling an alliance by true Christianity (Russian orthodox) and pure Islam (Iran, as opposed to saudis and co.), against the armies of darkness.    Obviously the U.S. falls on the wrong side of this fight as it has aligned with zionism (which is essentially satanism disguised as its opposite).   hard for some people to hear, but i can see where Sheikh Imran is coming from.  (and no, for the religious fanatics out there, I'm not a Muslim).

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 17:21 | 4549806 FreedomGuy
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There are over 2000 Protestant denominations and I do not know how many orders in Roman Catholicism or Eastern Orthodox. Then there are offshoots like Jehova's Witnesses and Mormons. Want to guess how many claim to be "true" Christians? How many Muslims, particularly radicals think they are true or purest Islam?

Jesus was a Jew and most all the disciples. They were evil Zionistic Jews?

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 01:44 | 4551289 Johnny Cocknballs
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Jesus spent a lot of time arguing with the Talmudists.  A large part of why the Sanhedrin goaded Rome into executing him.

Not by their creed but by their deeds shall ye know them...

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 12:35 | 4548411 Hayabusa
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I'm sure this will all just blow over soon.  I mean who in their right mind would want a devestating, no win war, that forces a reset of the entire world financial system?


Wait a minute........


Response:  Does anyone still believe as the military industrial complex blasted their way through the middle east via "weapons of mass destruction" propaganda toward Russia wasn't planned?  The world financial system is an ever fragile ponzi... if the final nail in the coffin is a war it will make it much more difficult to focus on punishing those who are responsible for the financial meltdown (like that will ever happen).  Wars make outstanding distractions from the truth and the bigger/messier they are the easier it will be to "hit the reset button."  If people have to die so be it... as long as they are deemed "expendibles" by the puppeteers.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:27 | 4548657 Dead Canary
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ABSOLUTELY! After the PTB failed to lite up Syria, a war SOMEWHERE was needed fast. The crash is coming down and our glorious deciders need cover.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 15:00 | 4548833 Herd Redirectio...
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Every war machine in history depends on a continuous supply of fresh plunder.  Without which, the machine grinds to a halt (as it cannot finance itself any other way).

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:37 | 4548696 trader1
Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:07 | 4548836 StupidEarthlings
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Do they even need a war these days? (To blame the ponzi crisis on)

I mean, we know that nobodys ever accountable anyway..and people askin questions (if they ever do) just kinda goes away / swept under the rug.. or maybe just a few billion dollar fine. Then it's back to business as usual. 




Fri, 03/14/2014 - 15:45 | 4549345 Dead Canary
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Amen to that brother.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 12:07 | 4548247 Obama_4_Dictator
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Fuck the world, as bad as this is going to be, it HAS to happen.  If I die, then so be it.  This is what happens when you have a bunch of faggots running thhings....


Things have gotten so out of hand on every level one trusts anyone anymore in every level of society, there are no more valid contracts in America....this cleansing is looooong overdue.....

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 12:11 | 4548305 Theta_Burn
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Fuck that...

Why be the cannon fodder?

The faggots need to GO


Fri, 03/14/2014 - 12:15 | 4548327 Obama_4_Dictator
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It's not like we are special or anything.....I mean "we" elected these freaks, the good will go down with the rest of the scum.....that's what happens when the bad out number the good and the welfare state collapses....I agree the faggots need to go, but there are a lot more faggots in America, they are not going to go without butftucking the rest of us first....

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:25 | 4548651 Confused
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You are funny. Faggots. Hahahaha. Damn them. Hahahahaha


Does anyone else notice the degradation of the commenting here? 


Never mind. Aliens. And Fags. And those fucking feminists. And welfare. Yeah. Oh Obama. You voted, you deserve it. Thats the ticket. Oh, free shit army. Thems too. 


Forget those war mongering assholes that control the place. Its other peoples fault. Yeah. Its everyone elses fault.


Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:35 | 4548689 Obama_4_Dictator
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THe Neo-cons need to go too assfuck.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:37 | 4548698 Confused
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Fair enough.


Assfuck? Nicely done. 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:41 | 4548709 Obama_4_Dictator
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When I say "Faggots" I don't mean actual gays, although they are not helping things either (nasty ass queers).  I am talking about the powers that be.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:48 | 4548749 smlbizman
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o 4 dictator..can i ask ur age?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:57 | 4548765 Obama_4_Dictator
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35 - My generation and the ones before me are a big part of teh problem. Too many on phones to see the forest from the trees.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:14 | 4548874 smlbizman
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im 56...i feel i lived at the best possible time....i would not trade my age for yours....stay low, pay as little taxes as possible...get a rental or another self employed tax shelter...and focus on the things you enjoy,... realize it could be worse, you could be fonestar ...

ive always thought it would be great...being that asshole driving 55 in the 65 mph in the left lane with never any traffic,.... just dont look in ur mirror..

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:21 | 4548906 Obama_4_Dictator
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For sure, I'm all set up because I saw the writing on the wall many years ago. I actually do better when the SHTF, so bring that shit on. You lived in the era of America when the wallets were wide open.  

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 15:04 | 4549097 smlbizman
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i would define, from a personal view, "best possible time" an era of ample oppurtunity, where the most capable got the job...we had winners and losers...were most knew they were responsible for their actions.....were qtrs and dimes were 90% wasnt great, we still had the same corrupt politicians and war mongers. the only difference imo is they at least tried to hide it and some even went to jail...the playing field was much more level...i cannot believe how quickly we got from there to here...

you got thumbs down for being 35...awesome...

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 15:06 | 4549117 Obama_4_Dictator
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I would agree with everything you said.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:13 | 4550768 hunglow
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How about 45 with the flashers on and duck down in the seat of a overloaded caddie.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:13 | 4550967 ebear
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With veteran's plates.  Oh, and a big hat.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:49 | 4548754 Confused
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Be clear then. Because there sure is alot of misplaced hate around these parts lately. It would certainly be silly to blame the "nasty ass queers" for the current state of affairs in the US. Because (and I will admit to not being a military historian) it would appear TPTB have been waging wars in foreign lands for the better part of the last 100 years. 


Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:54 | 4548774 Obama_4_Dictator
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Sorry, I belive the breakdown of the family unit has a major factor to play.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:59 | 4548804 Confused
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And gays are the reason that 50% of marriages end in divorce? Yes, I'm bringing up marriage because that is what is traditionally known as the family unit. Or atleast thats what the anti-gay groups espouse. 


Breakdown of the family unit can be blamed on TV, money matters, and the lack of fucking morals that the last two generations of people have been conditioned for. Having a dick (lets face it, temptation is difficult) and low to no education doesn't help either. 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:06 | 4548835 Obama_4_Dictator
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While I agree divorces are a big problem problem, so is wedlock, abortion, and blacks with out a baby Daddy.  Funny, some of the dumbest, most ignorant, closed minded fucks I have ever met have a college education.  Common sence is much more important.  

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:17 | 4548879 Confused
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I like your redirection. 

Funny, some of the dumbest, most ignorant, closed minded fucks I have ever met post the same shit on the web that other dumb, ignorant closed minded fucks have already posted. Time and time again. Or they learn it from their parents. 

Agree to disagree. But please remember to say a prayer for me on Sunday. 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:25 | 4548919 Obama_4_Dictator
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For teh record - Yes, I do have a college education.  I always pray for Texas first, then America and the people who want to do the rigth thing.  The rest can fend for themselves.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:36 | 4548948 Confused
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Edit: If you are praying, you believe in God. If you believe in God, then you believe he made people. Then pray for people. But do not have an allegence to the state. Any state. By nature they set people against each other.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:37 | 4548977 Obama_4_Dictator
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True enough, I'm not letting it get me down.  I just don't like what has become of America, I kinda want it to collapse - if I'm being honest about it.  

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:41 | 4548994 Obama_4_Dictator
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IMHO - there is absolutely zero excuses for anyone to not find out the truth about what's going on. I will no longer support ignorance of people anymore, if they could not figure it out in the 6+ years since the Lehman event, it's too late for them. 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:58 | 4549072 Obama_4_Dictator
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If I could choose between eliminating hipsters or AIDS, I’d choose hipsters every time.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 15:21 | 4549183 Obama_4_Dictator
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A civil war is needed at this stage.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 14:07 | 4548841 Rakshas
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To sum up the current state of the "Republic" .........

........"Cowards die many times before thier deaths; The valiant never taste of death but once." .......... BS/ Julius Caesar

and perhaps far more relevant to our western nanny state mentality 

..... The foundation of all mental illness is the avoidance of legitimate sufferring...... Carl Jung

Our failure to stand up for our rights over the past 150 years has allowed the banksters to gain control of those that should represent our will and our wishes; the level of corruption and evil that permeates the seats of power in the western world, the US in particular is the cancer that is killing us all.  The revolution that we see sweeping so many countries of the world is simply a harbinger of our coming fate; will the sheep turn on the wolves ??   

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 12:01 | 4548248 McMolotov
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Don't overreact — those tanks are only lined up for a parade.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 12:42 | 4548454 Winston Churchill
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Mayday already ?

Time flies when you get old.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 13:19 | 4548625 UpAndComing
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Speaking of May day...if this doesn't boil over by May 9, that border between eastern and western ukraine will be a spectacle.

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