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The Russians Have Already Quietly Pulled Their Money From The West

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Earlier today we reported that according to weekly Fed data, a record amount - some $105 billion - in Treasurys had been sold or simply reallocated (which for political reasons is the same thing) from the Fed's custody accounts, bringing the total amount of US paper held at the Fed to a level not seen since December 2012. While China was one of the culprits suggested to have withdrawn the near USD-equivalent paper, a far likelier candidate was Russia, which as is well-known, has had a modest falling out with the West in general, and its financial system in particular. Turns out what Russian official institutions may have done with their Treasurys (and we won't know for sure until June), it was merely the beginning. In fact, as the FT reports, in silent and not so silent preparations for what will be near-certain financial sanctions (which would include account freezes and asset confiscations following this Sunday's Crimean referendum) the snealy Russians, read oligarchs, have already pulled billions from banks in the west thereby essentially making the biggest western gambit - that of going after the wealth of Russia's 0.0001% - moot.

From the FT:

Russian companies are pulling billions out of western banks, fearful that any US sanctions over the Crimean crisis could lead to an asset freeze, according to bankers in Moscow.


Sberbank and VTB, Russia’s giant partly state-owned banks, as well as industrial companies, such as energy group Lukoil, are among those repatriating cash from western lenders with operations in the US. VTB has also cancelled a planned US investor summit next month, according to bankers.


The flight comes as last-ditch diplomatic talks between Russia’s foreign minister and the US secretary of state to resolve the tensions in Ukraine ended without an agreement.


Markets were nervous before Sunday’s Crimea referendum on secession from Ukraine. Traders and businesspeople fear this could spark western sanctions against Russia as early as Monday.

It probably will. What it will also do is force Russia to engage China far more actively in bilateral trade and ultimately to transact using either Rubles or Renminbi, and bypass the dollar. Perhaps even using gold, something which the price of the yellow metal sniffed out this week, pushing itself to 6 month highs. It will also make financial ties between the two commodity-rich nations even closer, while further alienating that "imperialist devil," the US.

Of course, the west thinking like the west, and assuming that all that matters to Russia is the closing level of the Micex, believes that a sufficient plunge in Russian stocks would have been enough to deter Putin. After all, the only thing everyone in the US cares about is if the S&P 500 closed at yet another all time high, right?

What the west didn't realize, as we predicted a month ago, for Putin it is orders of magnitude more important to have the price of commodities, primarily crude and gas, high than seeing the illusion of paper wealth, aka stocks, hitting all time highs. Especially since in Russia an even smaller portion of the population cares about the daily fluctuations of the stock market. As for the oligarchs, if there is someone who will be delighted to see their power, wealth and influence impacted adversely, if only for a short period of time, it is Vladimir Vladimirovich himself, whom the west misjudged massively once more. Not to mention that the general population will be even more delighted, and boost Putin's rating even higher, if these crony billionaires are made to suffer by the west, if only a little.

(Here we would be remiss not to comment on his easy it supposedly is for Obama to freeze the assets of a few corrupt Russian billionaires, and yet the very proud Americans who nearly brought the entire financial system to the brink in 2008, are now richer than ever.)

In the meantime, some of Russia's oligarchs are effectively welcoming the challenge. Bloomberg reports:

Alisher Usmanov, the country’s richest person, controls his most valuable asset, Metalloinvest Holding Co., Russia’s largest iron ore producer, through three subsidiaries, one of which is located in Cyprus, an EU member nation. The 60-year-old also owns a Victorian mansion in London that he bought in 2008 for $70 million, according to a May 18, 2008, Sunday Times newspaper report. He’s lost $1.5 billion since the crisis began, according to the Bloomberg ranking.


“We are concerned with the possible sanctions against Russia but don’t see any dramatic repercussions for our business,” Ivan Streshinsky, CEO at USM Advisors LLC, which manages Usmanov’s assets, including stakes in Megafon OAO and Mail.Ru Group Ltd., said in an interview at Bloomberg’s offices in Moscow today.


“Mail.Ru and Megafon revenue is coming from Russia and people won’t stop making calls and using the Internet,” he said. “Metalloinvest may face closure in European and American markets, but it can re-direct sales to China and other markets.”

Great job, Obama: you just pushed Russia and China even closer by necessity! Furthermore, it should come as no surprise that while Russians were pulling their money from the west, western firms were getting out of Dodgeski.

One senior Moscow banker said 90 per cent of investors were already behaving as if sanctions were in place, adding that this was “prudent exposure management”.


These moves represent the flipside of the more obvious withdrawal of western money from Russian markets that has been evident over the past fortnight.


Traders and bankers said US banks had been particularly heavy sellers of Russian bonds. According to data from the Bank for International Settlements, US banks and asset managers between them have about $75bn of exposure to Russia.


Joseph Dayan, head of markets at BCS, one of Russia’s largest brokers said: “It’s been quite an ugly picture in Russian bonds the last few days and some of it has to do with international banks reducing exposure.”


Although foreign banks have not yet begun cutting credit to Russian companies en masse, bankers said half a dozen live deals to fund some of Russia’s biggest companies were in limbo as lenders waited to see how punitive western sanctions would be.

So the bottom line is that Russia, thinking a few steps ahead, already has withdrawn the bulk of its assets from the West, and why not. Recall that a year ago it was revealed that the same Russians who were supposed to be punished in Cyprus had mostly withdrawn their funds in advance of the bail in: they tend to know what is coming. It was the ordinary Cypriot citizens, who had done nothing wrong, who were most impaired.

And so while the Russian response is already known, we wonder just how true is the inverse: just how prepared is the west, and especially Europe, to exist in a world in which a third of Germany's gas is suddenly cut off? We can't wait to find out early next week.


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Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:24 | 4550613 IridiumRebel
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He who panics first, panics best. Seems the Russians were privy to events about to unfold. 

Cue Fonestar BTC plug in 3...2...1...

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:29 | 4550631 LetThemEatRand
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It's never too late to panic. 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:32 | 4550643 zionhead101
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Sell USD and BUY Euro's, that's the kind of Panic I like to see :)

The EURO  is going to be KING, and that is what UKRAINE/SYRIA was all about, ... ZIO- knows the USD is going down,...

CHINA/RUSSIA remain silent about BULLSHI, cuz they know once the USD collapses and US-MIL can't make PAYROLL on the ZIO-MERCENARY army, then the US-MIL becomes paper-tigers, and then the entire world can tell the US "GO FUCK YOURSELF".

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:34 | 4550648 H. Perowne
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"Oh, and Funboy . . . don't be happy, worry."

Praying for rain. Praying for tidal waves.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:39 | 4550654 knukles
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Man-o-chevas, if you didn't know any better, you'd think that the leadership of the United States is trying to destroy the country.

And just you all wait until Russia and China start to take only Yuan, rubles or gold in exchange.
It's OK, you can hold your breath.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:45 | 4550680 old naughty
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Don't you get the feeling that they all knew, only us sheeples don't.

"Oligarchs playing decisive role".

Someone (waving the wand behind curtain) know.

Market-less; border-less; sovereign-less (oh sh't).

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:52 | 4550706 SWRichmond
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We have always been at war with Eastasia.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:00 | 4550730 kliguy38
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nothing quiet about it .....I heard they yelled Foch you assholes all the way back on their Gulfstreams.........

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:09 | 4550754 Mister Kitty
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Russia is about to feel the full force of American economic power.  I wouldn't want to be in their shoes.  They will be crushed.  Bitches.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:21 | 4550794 MsCreant
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So should I interpret your name as Mr. Pussy?

Are you an effigy troll?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:00 | 4550933 SilverIsKing
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I'm fairly certain that if they withdraw their funds from the banks, they have to return their toasters.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:34 | 4551028 NoDebt
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"Now you will pay the price for your lack of vision."  Cue the fingertip lightning bolts.  

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 05:40 | 4551412 GetZeeGold
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Mongo only pawn in game of life

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 06:07 | 4551432 jeff montanye
Sat, 03/15/2014 - 06:26 | 4551450 negative rates
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That soon?

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 06:31 | 4551454 GetZeeGold
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From the article...


"As an adapter to the thinking of men of power, Obama was a quick study. It took him less than half a year as president to subscribe to Dick Cheney’s view on the need for the constant surveillance of all Americans. "

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 06:42 | 4551461 TheGoldMyth
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GetZeeGold....I guess you mean 'puppets of power'.

Most leaders (Puppets) are pre-programmed and hardwired to self destruct as a fail safe making replacement with a newer model seamless.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 06:46 | 4551462 TheGoldMyth
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No such thing as a Russian or American/etc leader in this privatised political lobotomy.

No such thing as "the Chinese" or "the Russians" in a privatised country.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 06:49 | 4551464 TheGoldMyth
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The object is not just to own all the gold, the object is to own the people through debt.
Allow me to control the debt (Blah blah blah), and i care not who makes the laws.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:48 | 4551075 McMolotov
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I hear the Chinese are offering Spiderman towels.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 00:06 | 4551125 sunaJ
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Just about said the same before I saw your response.  God I love you.


Sat, 03/15/2014 - 03:54 | 4551363 zhandax
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"just how prepared is the west, and especially Europe, to exist in a world in which a third of Germany's gas is suddenly cut off?"

No need for heat in about two weeks unless you are in...never mind.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 05:41 | 4551407 Squid-puppets a...
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and 100% of swedens gas. If ikea grinds to a halt, where will we all get our shitty ill fitting furniture from?

I dont think the consumers of the West are quite prepared for an Ikeapocolypse

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 06:17 | 4551442 jeff montanye
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and speaking of ill-prepared, as obama continues his grand tour of the graveyards of the late british empire, perhaps he might check out "the charge of the light brigade":


Sat, 03/15/2014 - 06:57 | 4551473 old naughty
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OMG, latest speculation: MH370 downed by new weapon !

JC, we need good news.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 08:24 | 4551535 silvermail
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"No need for heat in about two weeks unless you are in...never mind."

Industry in Europe is already working on solar energy?
And by the way, what about gas supplies fall and winter? Or do you think that this summer, Europe will replace Russian gas on any other gas?

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 03:00 | 4551340 Kirk2NCC1701
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Sorry, OT, but I wanted to post the breaking news regarding the Malaysian Flight MH370...

Malaysian authorities now confirmed the Hijacking Theory, turned Hijacking FACT for flight MH370. 

Congrats to all the Captain Obvious posters, who miraculously and correctly deduced that the flight was Hijacked, after the MSM informed us that the 777 engines kept sending out real-time data streams about their multi-parameter conditions (Vital Signs) back to Boeing (in Chicago, US) for 4-5 hours after it was reported missing, and which led many MSM Super-Sleuths to conclude that Foul Play might be at work.  Congrats, Sherlock Jr.!   :-o

The relevant questions that Captain(s) Unobvious might now ask include:

(1)     Why did it take so long for Boeing to come forward with this data?  E.g., did they have to reveal it because they could not risk the legal liability and PR damage if this was going to be leaked sooner or later anyway?  IOW, the fear of the Snowden effect.

(2)     (a) Since when has this technology been Available for in-situ Beta-testing, and (b) since when has it been in Regular use?

(3)     Based on question (2), does this mean that Boeing actually has data on other plane crashes that it does not wish to share?  It does not take a genius or an overly active imagination in a post-Snowden era, to envision a scenario, where US Agencies (NSA, CIA) wanted to have this information about planes, but did not wish to have the FAA or the Public to know about it.

(4)    Given that Expert Pilot skills were required after the hijacking, did the plane not actually land somewhere, and is it not possible (or likely) that the passengers and plane are being “repurposed”?

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 03:56 | 4551358 zhandax
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This info was released on Wednesday, but at first the Malaysians denied it.  A better question is why?

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 06:24 | 4551448 jeff montanye
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just a shot in the dark but how far is north korea from where the plane went "off course"?

they do have a record, like the u.s., of taking things that don't actually belong to them.

for an admittedly fictive insight, see:

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 08:29 | 4551537 Zymurguy
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Kim Jong needed a new private jet.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 07:45 | 4551510 chubbar
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ACARs has been around since the mid nineties at least. The data it collects is mainly engine data. 2 engine aircraft operators are requried to collect this data on all aircraft that are in the ETOPS (extended operations over water) program as the operators have to show engine reliability to remain in the program. Without this collection the aircraft can only operate less than 60 minutes from a suitable airport, which is problematic for an operator intending to fly people internationally with 2 engine aircraft. The acars also is used by the cockpit crew to send info to operations, get weather updates, check gate delays, etc, etc. I don't see anything nefarious with ACARS data collection and I'm pretty paranoid in most cases.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:03 | 4550945 nevadan
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Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:36 | 4550840 Freddie
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Russia is about to feel the full force of American economic power.  I wouldn't want to be in their shoes.  They will be crushed.

Are we going to send over those 350 pounders in scooter shopping carts (because they are too fat to walk) who shop at Wal Mart with EBT to crush them?

That'll teach em.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:43 | 4550869 zionhead101
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We will send the entire 250M USA FSA to Russia and bankrupt their sorry asses trying to feed our FSA.


Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:34 | 4551031 NoDebt
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OK, that's pretty fucking funny.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 04:11 | 4551362 zhandax
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I thought the FSA was only about 160MM.  Is it already time to switch to hard liquor?

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 11:56 | 4551869 FredFlintstone
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Maybe Zionhead is counting retirees on SS, government pensioners from all levels (city, state, federal), all government employees, etc.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 05:30 | 4551409 Squid-puppets a...
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I LOVE it when people overestimate american power and influence. It helps hasten their demise.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:45 | 4550880 scrappy
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Cue the old "Rat Patrol Music"


The "O" Patrol.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:46 | 4550884 Curiously_Crazy
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Hehe yeah but the issue will be in the transportation. You'd need a Russian transporter (Antonov) which can carry a good 250 tonnes; The largest western transporter as far as I know is the Lockheed C5 which with a max capacity of around 120 tonnes would barely make the trip worthwhile.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:06 | 4550955 DeadFred
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I saw one lady at Walmart the other day who could fill that puny plane all by her lonesome.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 00:10 | 4551132 ebear
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That was no lady, that was my wife!

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 01:23 | 4551260 MrPalladium
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What sort of investor visits Wallmart??

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 03:26 | 4554149 TheRideNeverEnds
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one that was short the market in 2013.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 04:15 | 4551378 jaxville
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Ow!!! It hurts, please stop!

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:54 | 4550911 nightshiftsucks
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No dickhead,we're going to send over those nonexsistent F35 squadrons you stupid fuck.Hey Freddy where do you live ? maybe we could hook up for coffee or something stupid fuck.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:27 | 4551005 prains
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Sat, 03/15/2014 - 02:47 | 4551332 Tall Tom
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Of course he is too chickenshit to reveal his address?


Well my address is 12223B Woodside Ave., Lakeside, CA.


To him I say, instead of coffee let's go hunting. Bring your guns.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 07:07 | 4551483 TheGoldMyth
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The shopping carts and fat people are a clever way to divert resources into robotic drone etc manufacturing. Fat people and shopping carts do not require rare earth magnets and expensive ninja trained police and so forth.,

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 07:13 | 4551486 TheGoldMyth
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Actually i should qualify that. There are healthy fat people and skinny people. It is the fat and skinny people who are diseased by processed foods who fit the category of being a low threat when armed with a shopping cart not containing rare earth magnets or robotic devices.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 08:58 | 4551566 Pee Wee
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Have ninja "police" figured out how to catch a bullet in their teeth?



Sat, 03/15/2014 - 09:47 | 4551622 Dr. Gonzo
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I just saw 2 of them in all their 400lb glory at the grocery store...with Life Alerts around their neck...In case they get a mysterious pain that could be life threatening they can call a tax payer ambulance to take them to the tax payer hospital to fix them up and return them back to shoving taxpayer food down their gullet all day...because it's important to keep these Americans happy, healthy,and well fed and even better medicated. Yeah. We are going to kick some butt the next real war we get into. 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:04 | 4550952 Starlifter
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LOL, What economic power? The US is broke and has nothing but debt.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 04:29 | 4551381 zhandax
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Exactly why this is so fascinating.  We have a bunch of debt-soaked broke-assed countries piling on against the axis of real asset holders in an effort to preserve the petrodollar, and everything the provocateurs do seems to shoot themselves in the foot.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 09:47 | 4551620 RadioactiveRant
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When you owe someone $1000 its your problem, when you owe someone $17TN it's their problem.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 11:10 | 4551624 mccvilb
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How many countries use the US dollar as their own currency? The dollar is the largest currency union in the world. The goal of the banksters here is seignorage, taking control over all currencies and currency unions in the world so only they benefit from increases and decreases in the money supply. Debt is good. (Gordon Gekko)

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:18 | 4550954 balolalo
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Guys.   The hegemony/monopoly of the good'ole USA of mother earth will fracture and apparently is fracturing along a major faultline, apparently again along classic East-West geopolitical lines in real terms and with real interests on the planet.    

Resource reserves of everything, including water, are being exhausted everywhere all over the northern hemisphere, pollution is soaring, add to that a 4 degree centigrade increase baked in and which is just starting to ramp up.

TPTB are hedging bets and sharing is apparently not on the table right now.    This bubble-inflated market, hft-laced, electo-money, attempted dollar-globalization economy is obviously crumbling... mainly because our planet is dying.   

Lines are being drawn. Sides are being chosen, often ethnically. They are using real maps, along true hemispheres, with all of us on them.   Deciding destinies.  

To me, this Crimea shit is a signal that times is running short and not enough is going to go around. Something is coming.  Fuck. 

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 02:17 | 4551318 StychoKiller
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Hmm, what might that be?  The Saudi King finally seez Allah?  Saudi Kingdom starts pumping out sand instead of oil?  Let me know if I'm getting close...

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 06:07 | 4551433 Poor Grogman
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Just wait till the sun explodes, now that will be bullish!

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 08:17 | 4551528 silvermail
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Russia is about to feel the full force of imaginary, paper and faux American economic power. LOL

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 10:23 | 4551652 Mesquite
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>Mister Kitty

Astro Turfing is alive and well, I see..

Growth industry..

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 10:53 | 4551703 Libertarian777
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you mean the full force of 12%+ unemployed? or you mean the 63% labor participation rate? who's going to be crushed? the middle class? by the full $17 500 000 000 000 debt load? wait, what are we talking about again?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:04 | 4550739 Fortunate Fool
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"And so while the Russian response is already known, we wonder just how true is the inverse: just how prepared is the west, and especially Europe, to exist in a world in which a third of Germany's gas is suddenly cut off?"


Because it is well kmown that only Russians are smart and Europeans and Americans are complete morons, right Tyler? Yet somehow, the West is still doing ok (albeit not great). Russia accounts for only 1% of EU's trade (while the EU accounts for 15% of Russia's). I wonder who has the most to lose?


-Germany who is sitting on record level of gas inventory (not even counting its strategic reserves) which would give it sufficient time to find alternative sources for its gas needs (and could also restart its nuclear plants...); or

- Russia (with a GDP growth of 1.5% last year, not quite fantastic, even compared to the West), who would lose immidiately 40% of its revenue...


Tyler (whoever is behind this name), don't pretend you don't understand...

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:07 | 4550749 johngaltfla
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Wait a minute. I finally beat Tyler to something in posting doom news?!!? WOW! :)


03.14 BREAKING NEWS: Russian Bank Run OUT of Western Institutions Underway

Even if only by a few hours, that's a miracle!

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:23 | 4550800 MsCreant
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Go Galt!

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 00:12 | 4551137 sunaJ
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This is the latest iteration in the currency war.  Coming by way of a real war near you.


Sat, 03/15/2014 - 00:25 | 4551160 Rusty Shorts
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Craigslist - Vietnam - 

Boeing 777-300 - 1500000

Slightly used Boeing 777-300 for sale.

Asking for $15,000,000 USD, or best offer (this includes all the snacks in the plane).

Not much fuel in the plane at the moment, but it's in great flying condition. ABSOLUTELY NO JOY RIDES!


Ask for Fariq when calling and setting up appointments to see the plane.

  • do NOT contact me with unsolicited services or offers

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Sat, 03/15/2014 - 00:26 | 4551166 prains
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does it come with a functioning transponder?

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 08:43 | 4551556 Miss Expectations
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I know that this ad is fake because it does not include..."Do not have title (easy to get).  Bill of Sale only."

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 00:23 | 4551158 ebear
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Galt 45.  The pun that won the west.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:23 | 4550802 LetThemEatRand
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Does that mean the Russians are going Galt?  Ironic, isn't it?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:43 | 4550868 johngaltfla
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Does that mean the Russians are going Galt?  Ironic, isn't it?

Now THAT'S funny!!!!!

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:58 | 4550931 LetThemEatRand
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I'm thinking you don't see the irony.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:11 | 4550960 vic and blood
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@LTER Clever!

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 10:21 | 4551648 mccvilb
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You want irony? After Zimbabwe's currency collapsed they adopted the US dollar and South African Rand, no relation to Ayn, as their currency in 2009, and in January decided to start using the Chinese Yuan along with a bunch of others - Australian dollars, Indian Rupees and Japanese yen.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:26 | 4550999 old naughty
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Does that mean we are dumber than a box of rocks?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:42 | 4550865 zionhead101
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Well every saver on earth could pull out the CASH, and the federal reserve would just create FIAT to balance the books.

The BANKS no longer exists to 'save', they only exist to make loans to ENSLAVE.

How long can the FEDRES pull FIAT out of its ass to feed the DEBT economy? Probably a long time.

Is gold skyrocketing?


People are just preparing for WAR, ... like the article say's the RICH in RUSSIA don't want to see their money do a CYPRUS in the coming grab of CASH by the ZIO ran western banking fuckheads. Grabbed on the pre-text of WAR.

Note its not that they're pulling their USD out of western banks, they're pulling their EURO's out of western banks.

ZIO's don't want USD they get that for FREE, they want EURO's.



Sat, 03/15/2014 - 05:02 | 4551395 zhandax
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War's over, man. Wormer dropped the big one.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:15 | 4550774 EatYourCornTake...
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Perfect thank you. I'm also sure that the majority of the world can't wait to trade in ruble and reminbi. The currencies that devalue 30% in a matter of days. I personally can't wait to diversify my portfolio away from the reserve currency USD and go to these two fantastic currencies with so much upside!

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:15 | 4550775 EatYourCornTake...
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Perfect thank you. I'm also sure that the majority of the world can't wait to trade in ruble and reminbi. The currencies that devalue 30% in a matter of days. I personally can't wait to diversify my portfolio away from the reserve currency USD and go to these two fantastic currencies with so much upside!

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 01:07 | 4551237 Johnny Cocknballs
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Russia accounts for only 1% of EU's trade

Where did you learn this factoid?

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 00:17 | 4551142 Kirk2NCC1701
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@SWRichmond: "We have always been at war with Eastasia."

Yes, and "A Prophet has no honor in his own village".  -Jesus of Nazareth.

Nice to see that TD came to the realization of this story, given that I already made the same statement a few hours earlier.  See [Exhibit A]: Fri, 03/14/2014 - 16:59 | 4549690

"Besides the not-so-subtle way of saying FU, it could also be the Russian gov and its Oligarchs reducing their US exposure to asset freezes.

IOW, also hedging their bets. Gives them more negotiating power to complement their military moves -- thus increasing their options for a flexible response, and makes it more difficult for the US to front-run them.

Global Stratego."

Clearly, even for all its attempts and pretenses, even ZH is not exactly "Meritocracy" in giving Credit where it is due, but has its "Cliques".  In which case, how is having "Cliques" here different from Cliques elsewhere -- including on Wall St?  :-)

p.s. The actor portrayed in the story's cover page is not Russian, but from "former Yugoslavia".  To be "technically correct".

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 01:46 | 4551292 RafterManFMJ
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If I saw a snealy Russian, I'm pretty sure I'd shit myself.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:18 | 4550784 surf0766
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But not leadless

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 00:54 | 4551218 elwind45
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I think its called bilderberg and they did signal risk reduction 6 months ago? Remember last week when you were wondering if stuff is overvalued well it is but now what stuff and for how long? I believe no one sees it anyhow like a gold and bonds rally! Risk isnt over yet but it is on the ropes?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:47 | 4550689 zionhead101
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Knukles, your one of the smartests MOFU here and you know all too well that the ZIO-Leader ship that OWNS the USA, knows all too well that the game was up in the 1970's when the USD went Bankrupt, and since then its PRINT to INFINITY 'FIAT' ( money backed by nothing ), but then along came 2014 and the world after 40 years of being BULLIED by a SOCIOPATHIC worlds policeman, that the USD was KAPUT.

The Leadership of USA in Tel-Aviv knew all too well, the problem is they weren't ready and its happening TOO FUCKING QUICK.


I say they had a plan (SYRIA), to sell SAUDI OIL to EUROPE for Euro's to keep TEL-AVIV afloat, but PUTIN would have none of that, then they tried to steal UKRAINE, but PUTIN contained that theft.

Now with the USD collapsing the USA "LEADERSHIP" in TEL-AVIV will go full retard, they'll start using Al-Queda assets to steal planes and kill civilians in CHINA/RUSSIA to create a war.

BUT, the CHINA/RUSSIA are smart, they know to just play dumb and slow, once the USD collapses and the US-MIL/GOV can't make payroll on WORLDS-POLICEMAN, then the USA will be feared by nobody and every USA-COP in the world will run home with his tail tucked under his ass.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:58 | 4550929 lasvegaspersona
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lose a bit of baggage and you are close to freegold thinking....yes the euro was made for the day the dollar died....yes the freeshitarmy of stooges will not work for love of country the zionist don't have any more say than anyone else who does not have gold....

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 21:13 | 4553557 Optimusprime
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The Rothschilds are the chief Zionists.  Get with the picture.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 00:58 | 4551222 elwind45
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If you drop "dollar collapsing" every couple of words maybe you could sell your screenplay

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 01:09 | 4551240 Johnny Cocknballs
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you are a heady mix of insight and inanity.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 06:11 | 4551438 zionhead101
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Johnny, the so called 'worlds policeman' only cares about one fucking thing the gold plated 'retirement pension'

Guess fucking what, there's not going to be one.

Sooner or later the cop's are going figure out that the end of the rainbow is a shit sandwich.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 11:51 | 4551857 adeptish
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"you are a heady mix of insight and inanity."

Pure gold Johnny, thanks...

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 08:40 | 4551554 Spumoni
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Well, when the Mossad retirees do get home, you'd better hope you're nowhere around. How is it that stupid racist fucks like yourself feel entitled to make shit up and spew it all over the room? Be interesting to see how your tune changes when you're hung upside down in an alley with a hot cattle prod up your idiot ass.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 17:22 | 4552820 FredFlintstone
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Spoken like a Nazi he is warning us about.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:25 | 4550772 wee-weed up
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knukles said:

"if you didn't know any better, you'd think that the leadership of the United States is trying to destroy the country."

BINGO!!!! DING, DING, DING...  We have a winnah!

Obozo knows that with a feasible excuse to institute martial law...

He'll be completely free to do anything he and the Lib socialists have ever dreamed of!

Oh, and can you say, "El Presidente for life?"...

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:37 | 4550844 zionhead101
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ding-ding its all fine and funny to diss the man-fuck who is our president, but its better to keep your sights on who placed Obummer in this office of buggery,

I will not name name(s) on ZH, but they sound like Cass Sunstein, Netanyahu, Follow the Chicago AIPAC KLAN, and watch Rahm Emanuel very closely,

Rahm is tied very closely with BOEING-CHICAGO, they know exactly where the MALAY airplane is.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:27 | 4550993 wee-weed up
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Obozo knows he has risen above...

And is now more powerful than those who "put him into office."

He knows this because of his race...

And America's irrational fear of "politcal correctness."

He knows he can NEVER, EVER be removed from office!

Be afraid... be VERY afraid!

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 06:08 | 4551435 zionhead101
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Obama knows that one tele call from Netanyahu, Sunstein, or Rahm Emanuel, and BIDEN is president in 10 minutes.

Best thing for OBAMA is to sneak off and be alone with Reggie for the next 2+ years and get this circus-act completed.

Then HILLERY-2016 takes over, and she will be US-PRES for life.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:33 | 4551025 old naughty
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Ok, ZH101 (good metaphor)...

But beware of Putin-led EAU + BICS

World is a chessboard...So MH370 = fxxk Asia?

Dots, dots, dots !

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 06:06 | 4551429 zionhead101
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CIA is doing everything it can to provoke RUSSIA/CHINA to do something stupid to start a war.

That Russia/CHINA not react that they let the continue to fuck themselves.

Thank god the Cheney's of the world are not running Russia and China.

USA is going down, and anybody near is going down with her, ... thus its in the interest of all survivors to stay far away from a sinking ship on fire.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 07:03 | 4551481 old naughty
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um, may be not...

check out my latest post just posted @6:57 above.

Where's Chuck to 'defend' this?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:45 | 4550679 erg
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That's it. I'm lighting my own fucking hair on fire. Finally something I can successfully front-run.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:36 | 4550653 Soul Glow
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There is no king of fiat currency.  They are all paupers.

Gold is King of Money.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:53 | 4550715 zionhead101
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CHF, SGD, NOK are all 'AAA', there is good paper, there are good witches and bad witches.

In these times its good to hold gold, but better to have diamonds, that cannot be detected in travel.

Problem with GOLD is any serious amount is hard to hide up your ass, and 50+ years ago cheap battery technology didn't exist to detect.

Paper GOLD of any form is only for BITCOIN-MORONS.


Think Malaysian banks boys, and remember to keep your powder dry in the form of HKD which is tied to USD, and when the USD really goes down it will become YUAN.

Malaysian banks are the best cuz they have told the IRS "GO FUCK YOURSELF"


Probably most important thing is FUCK 'prepping' get your ass out-a the USA while you can, this is already post 1938 NAZI-GERMANY, and after that nobody got out.

Once the USA citizens start fleeing in MASS, nobody will take them, .. just a historical fact. You got to go EARLY.


Sat, 03/15/2014 - 06:19 | 4551445 Poor Grogman
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Take a walk dude, your CPU is overheating, tomorrow will be just like yesterday mostly.

Remember "Rome didn't collapse in a day".

People were born, grew old, and died, during Romes fall from empire.

This might be quicker, but still, things take time...

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 11:33 | 4551784 flapdoodle
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I wouldn't go near diamonds. Its a completely synthetic (pun) market, with the public convinced of that diamonds are worth something due to major TelAviv/Amsterdam/DeBeers/Madison Avenue effort...

The value of diamonds is what the above cabal decides, not the market.

The horror stories of people buying diamond jewelery and only being able to sell them for a fraction of their cost are legion.

The most practical store of value IMHO are older Toyota Hilux pickup trucks... but you need really big pockets to carry them around.



Sat, 03/15/2014 - 00:08 | 4551129 BeanusCountus
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Hmmm. Seems to me buying Euros might be why that excuse for a currency continues to go up. Maybe some of that money is also moving into gold.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 03:05 | 4551341 Cyberg
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  release the Drones!!

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 07:44 | 4551508 FredFlintstone
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Why won't the EURO suffer as well?

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 08:34 | 4551546 Spumoni
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Whatever it is you're smoking, old boy, you ought to change brands. Otherwise you're going to be broke.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:45 | 4551063 G.O.O.D
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Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:49 | 4551079 blankfeinsmom
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Looks like you broke your finger

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 01:10 | 4551243 Johnny Cocknballs
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nice bid tho'.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 06:28 | 4551453 waterwitch
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Here, fixed it for you!








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Sat, 03/15/2014 - 04:55 | 4551392 russwinter
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Foreigners Dump More Treasuries and Deep State Operators Buy Them:


Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:45 | 4550683 booboo
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the old grey mare just ain't what she used to be

ain't what she used to be

ain't what she used to be

Other then that it appears that the free flow of informations across the waters is making it clear that all wars are about the control of money and resources and have little to do with bogus assasinations of some far flung arch duke or poisen gas attacks. Germany was making a play for Mideast oil prior to WW1 just as the big navy's were switching from steam to oil and england was not going to have none of that shit so here we are...........

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:42 | 4551051 Liberty2012
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Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:52 | 4550708 HyperinflatmyNutts
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Looks like the boys r a lil nervous in Yatsland and it is starting already or a nice bit of Propaganda?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:08 | 4550753 JuliaS
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So, they pulled a month and a week worth of QE? The Fed must be horrified!

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:29 | 4550818 zionhead101
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Everybody starts pulling out $100 BILLION all over the world it starts looking like real money.

Sure this is only a month of QE, and that is just the tip of the iceberg of what the Federal Reserve is really creating.

The Federal Reserve has sent $100 of TRILLIONS out the back door  for years now to prop up EURO, ASIA, and South American Banks.


The US Treasury is a circus act, ... but eventually when the ONLY buyer of US-DEBT is the FED the con-artist act cannot go on forever, I agree that monday will not see "BANK HOLIDAY" in USA, as the the police-state MUST be paid.

But eventually when the majority of the worlds country's are SELLING USD's, its going to drop, and drop, and drop, which means HYPER-INFLATION for the USA to buy shit, since they don't make shit.

Given that Hyper-Inflation in the USA has no begun, I suspect we still have lots of time to watch the US-TREASURY/WASH-DC circus act.

That said, ... Its clear that ZIO-TEL-AVIV is well aware their USD money-tree is about to DIE, and they're hell bent on STEALING THE EURO MONEY TREE.


Sat, 03/15/2014 - 00:11 | 4551134 kito
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wtf are you talking about. you are a fucking ranting meth crazed lunatic. are the zionists at fault for the fact that you were dropped on your fucking head by your doped out parents?

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 00:35 | 4551184 zionhead101
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Nope, I have just studied this shit for some 50+ years,... working my way up to Carrol Quigley ( historian CIA ), and working in US-MIL spec-ops my entire life, and intelligence, ... so I have seen many a die, and my time is near, and I have nothing to lose by telling the truth.

What's your story shithead?

I don't blame Zionists, I blame the Anglo-Saxson (Rhodes Scholars) for the fuck, ... Zio's are just the TOOLS in this trade,... the names on the kill list to be blamed should the OPERATION fail.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 07:42 | 4551506 FredFlintstone
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I tend to believe this..."so I have seen many a die, and my time is near, and I have nothing to lose by telling the truth".

A lot of posters here have all sorts of ideas about what might happen, but few can shed any light on why it may all be happening. That is why I try to find all your posts and read them. If we know who has the power, we can discern their motives and perhaps anticipate events and be half a step ahead of misery and untimely death.

Tens of millions have murdered all over the world the past 100 years. However, some escaped. Why? What did they see and experience that compelled them to leave the only life they knew? Everyone here knows some bad shit will be going down. Will it be 3 years or 30? Will you and your family prosper or die?

Can you quit your job, sell your house and all of your possessions? Say goodby to your extended family and friends? Pack your family up and leave? Where would you go?

Cash out your 401K and IRAs and buy PMs?

Many have done similar things over the past 100 years and have lived. Many, many others did not and suffered.

Just something to think about :)

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 01:13 | 4551244 Johnny Cocknballs
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it is exceedingly likely the Likudniks know the US $ is in terminal decline and will move to aggressively sell out the US to China.

They've already given them a lot of US tech.  Which isn't exactly a secret.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:15 | 4550773 Buck Johnson
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Exactly, and this is so stupid to do this Obama truly stupid. 

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 02:12 | 4551309 StychoKiller
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"Opulence, I has it."  (And I intend its keeping!)

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 06:30 | 4551452 Wile-E-Coyote
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It's obvious the Russians are playing chess. I wonder how the London banks are doing with all those Russian funds removed; the phone must be red hot to the BOE.

Germany must be in total shock. I bet they will be scrambling to bring those nuclear reactors back on line, environmentalists will become Russian fifth columnists  lol..


Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:26 | 4550621 Deathrips
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Fuck...americans are pulling assets out of western pay credit card bills.





Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:41 | 4550663 maskone909
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This is too true. They even have old folks reverse mortgaging their homes so that the banks can get the titles.

They call it the american dream because you have to be asleep to believe it. -george carlin

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:48 | 4550693 EatYourCornTake...
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Yeah Yeah, trade in Renminbi and Ruble. The currencies that devalue 30% in a matter of weeks. Yeah, flight to safety. Definitely, the U.S is shaking in it's little boots. I'm so scared for my savings. These two shit hole countries are gonna rise up and trouble the U.S. hahah you guys are too funny, the U.S would win a war against both of those countries without even a shot fired. Since 2008, the Fed has added what 4 trillion of freshly printed M2? Have any of you bitches experienced 30% inflation like the chinks and ruskis? Stop bitching, you sound like a bunch of blind retards who can't analyze facts. You live in a free country and you're allowed to read whatever you want. Russia and China have mass censoring, arrests of political opposition, torture, etc. Former world chess champion Gary Kasparov was arrested and beaten for protesting. Khodorkovsky, Russia's visionary was jailed for 10 years for supporting political opposition. Bunch of retards in these comment sections, I swear. 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:57 | 4550722 vic and blood
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I wonder if anyone has warned Snowden about that bad stuff?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:00 | 4550731 noless
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Besides Snowden, Manning, and assange.

Wait, there goes the rip in the rabbit hole.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:38 | 4551014 vic and blood
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That is the last time I try to be funny! It just doesn't work for me.

The misanthrope mentioned "bunch of retards" so I thought...never mind...

I will be the first to down arrow my rebuttal. I never up arrow, that would be unscrupulous.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 03:32 | 4551353 old naughty
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Funny is good, Vic. Please keep it up.

But try see the writings on the wall:

US Hands Internet Control to NWO

Ukraine: The End Game; letter-spacing: 1px; background-position: 0px 100%; background-repeat: repeat no-repeat;">FEMA Signs Deal With Russian Troops to Provide “Security” At US Events

Que sera sera,

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:57 | 4550723 noless
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You think there are American dissidents? Name one.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:34 | 4551029 vic and blood
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If I can butt in here, do those guys in the Guy Fawkes masks count?

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:42 | 4551053 Ms No
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American dissidents: Sibel Edmonds, The Plames, Richard Clark, Richard Armitrage, Manning, Snowden..... Tylers......

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 00:31 | 4551174 zionhead101
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Noam Chomsky, Ralph Nader; are the only real guys telling the truth, without bullshit, or lies.


Manning we don't know either, sounds like a trial run for Snowden.

Tylers, .. are just nickel whores for google, and that my friends is some sick shit. As GOOGLE is the fucking SKYNET, and you be a whore to SKYNET, you be someones bitch for sure.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 10:02 | 4551640 silvermail
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World chess champion Garry Kasparov, Robert Fisher.

U.S. Marine Arrested for Facebook Posts

Feds retaliate against another critic of the U.S. government.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 21:58 | 4550725 maskone909
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Not sure why you mentioned m2. NDAA, banning words, a few steps away from outlawig firearms, mass surveillance, mass censorship, its happenig right before our eyes.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:10 | 4550759 EatYourCornTake...
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Um, because the Fed has printed more money in the last 5 years than Russia's entire GDP for the last 30 and we experience, even by the most pessimistic calculations, maybe 3-5% inflation. Russia has experienced 30% inflation over the span of days in multiple times in the last decade. You think the Chinese will dump dollar and go to Ruble? You think other countries will follow suit? 

Firearms will never be outlawed in the U.S. That was shot down in the Senate immediately and that's democratically controlled. The NDAA ok fine. Yes, but they didn't need to pass that to do that. They've always done that. I see people type all kinds of shit on zerohedge and not getting blackbagged. In china and russia you would have been. Mass surveillance, ok they do that everywhere. Mass censorship here? I don't think so. I can go on any website, if you're stupid enough to get your news from the TV, that's your problem. Yes, the U.S is not perfect but to "worship" Putin and all of these 3rd world piece of shit countries and pretend like the U.S can "learn" from them is just blind stupidity. 

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:20 | 4550792 maskone909
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The fed prints money and it distorts emerging markets. That is why there currencies are more volatile. This is exactly why they are distancig themselves from the dollar. Dont be naive. Just wait untill they DO outlaw guns to conform to te trans-pacific-partnership.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:30 | 4550823 MsCreant
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You are trying to talk in good faith to some folks that I strongly feel are not independent posters, but rather, they have some kind of, shall we say, interest, in posting here. We never hear from these people on other threads, and then they crawl out to defend the sparkling shining wonderful USA?

I don't think so...

God this creeps me out.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 22:43 | 4550870 EatYourCornTake...
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Oh My God!!! Hahahah! So in your opinion, which I'm sure you think is educated and informed, there is no one who would defend the USA especially when it's being bashed by some RT paid bullshit propoganda. Motherfuckers you don't know what Russia is, I was born there and I am one of the luckiest motherfucker alive to have been naturalized by the US. I will lick this countries ass and polish its balls any day before hearing some ignorant mentally fucks like you bad mouthing this country and praising a murderer Vlad Putin. Yeah I'm being paid. You're right. Good for you, fucking genius. And your 4 up votes, bunch of Einsteins the lot of you.

Fri, 03/14/2014 - 23:27 | 4551002 RaceToTheBottom
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Good post.  And accurate.  Even after Putin goes full retard, they will be searching for Putexcuses.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 00:29 | 4551169 zionhead101
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PUTIN is the only one standing up to ASSHOLES like you. This is why we love PUTIN, and PUTIN has the majority of the Russian people support him.

In the USA they made a GIMP, a man size SEX-TOY owned by AIPAC as the standing President of the USA.


FYI, I would live in neither the USA or RUSSIA. But I know a REAL asshole when I see one. Compared to ZIO-NEO-CON Likud fuckwits destroying america, PUTIN looks like the fucking baby jeebuz.

PUTIN KGB yes, but Cass Sunstein, Netanyahu, BIDEN, Rahm Emanuel, LURCH, Pelosi, Feinstein are ALL MOSSAD.

MOSSAD has killed more people that the KGB every thought about killing, in all of the life of the MOSSAD their purpose has only been power by death.

KGB are fucking saint's compared to MOSSAD(CIA). Just count the fucking corpses the last 20 years created by MOSSAD versus KGB. It's like 100000 to 1.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 06:00 | 4551423 Urban Redneck
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Then would my friends who hold dual residency (and at least one case dual citizenship) choose Russia over the USA?   Generally speaking, they actually are geniuses...

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 10:18 | 4551651 silvermail
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@ EatYourCornTake

"Putin Killer"? LOL
Any U.S. president hands the blood to the elbow, as a butcher, compared with Putin. By the way, all the victims in Kiev - is also blood on the hands of U.S. President, not the President of Russia.

Of course, in the world there are not a few bastards who were born in Russia. And also in the world there are many good people who born in the U.S. But you personally, certainly do not from the second category.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 10:32 | 4551677 silvermail
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Dear EatYourCornTake,

Why in every your phrase, so many arrows down?
You are a WH troll? You are should to write these nonsense, because it's your job and you need a money to feed a family?
Or you like, when your interlocutors consider you an idiot?

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