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Maduro Warns Venezuelan Protesters "We Are Coming For You"; Calls John Kerry A "Murderer"

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As the daily street protests grow bloodier and bloodier, Venezuelan President Maduro has escalated his comments today, exclaiming that he "won't be bullied," and warning "prepare yourself, we are coming for you," if protesters don't "go home within hours."

  • *VENEZUELAN PROTESTERS HAVE 'HOURS' TO CLEAR BARRICADES: MADURO
  • *MADURO SAYS HE'LL SEND ARMED FORCES TO 'LIBERATE' PROTEST AREAS

With 28 dead in the last month of protests, things are very serious but as we warned previously, Maduro still enjoying the support of the poor - as EuroNews reports, it appears he is not going anywhere soon. John Kerry also came under fire as the foreign minister called him "a "murderer of the Venezuelan people," accusing him of encouraging the protests.

 

 

As Bloomberg reports,

Venezuela President Nicolas Maduro says he will send armed forces to clear barricaded areas if "protesters don’t go home within hours."

"Prepare yourself, we are coming for you," Maduro tells soldiers at army event in Caracas

Plaza Altamira in eastern Caracas, the center of the protests, first to be “liberated,” Maduro says

As tensions with the US continue to rise:

The United States on Friday brushed aside "absurd" accusations by Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro that it was meddling in the country's internal affairs by intervening in anti-government protests.

 

Venezuela's foreign minister Elias Jaua had earlier called top US diplomat John Kerry a "murderer of the Venezuelan people," accusing him of encouraging the protests that have killed 28 people in five weeks.

 

"The solution to Venezuela's problems lies in democratic dialogue among Venezuelans, not in repression or in hurling verbal brickbats at the United States," a state department official said on condition of anonymity.

 

"Venezuela's government needs to focus on solving its growing economic and social problems, not on making absurd allegations against the United States."

 

Maduro, however, charged that "the desperate government interventionism of the United States is clear."

 

"There's a slew of statements, threats of sanctions, threats of intervention. There has been lobbying by the highest officials in the US government," he said.

 

As Stratfor notes, these protests could mark a turning point as the economic situation deteriorates there is a chance that protests like this could begin to generate additional social momentum in rejection of the status quo...Perhaps things could be changing for Maduro...

Relatively large student-led opposition protests convened in Caracas, Valencia, Maracaibo and many other cities throughout the country. Rough Stratfor estimates put the crowd in Caracas at between 15,000-20,000 people based on aerial photos posted on social media. Venezuela's students are very politically active and protests are frequent. However, the relatively large turnout and widespread geographic distribution of this week's protests indicate that the movement may be gaining traction.

 

The challenge that the student movement will face is in finding a way to include Venezuela's laboring class, which for the most part still supports the government, and relies on its redistributive policies. Their inability to rouse broad support across Venezuela's social and economic classes was in part why previous student uprisings, including significant protests in 2007, failed to generate enough momentum to trigger a significant political shift.

 

But the situation has changed in Venezuela, and as the economic situation deteriorates there is a chance that protests like this could begin to generate additional social momentum in rejection of the status quo. President Nicolas Maduro has been in office for less than a year, and in that time the inflation rate has surged to over 50 percent and food shortages are a daily problem. Though firmly in power, the Chavista government is still struggling to address massive social and economic challenges. Massive government spending, years of nationalization and an overreliance on imports for basic consumer goods have radically deteriorated inflation levels, and undermined industrial production.

 

How the government responds will play a key role in the development of these protests going forward. The government cannot afford to crack down too hard without risking even worse unrest in the future. For its part, the mainstream opposition must walk a careful line between supporting the sentiment behind open unrest and being seen as destabilizing the country. Maduro retains the power to punish opposition politicians, and reaffirmed that Feb. 11 when he stated on national television that he intends to renew the law allowing him to outlaw political candidates who threaten the peace of the country. The statement was a clear shot over the bow of opposition leaders, and may foreshadow a more aggressive government policy designed to limit political opposition.

Perhaps it is the use of armed forces directly and aggressively that will roil the "poor"'s perspective - we will see

 

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Sat, 03/15/2014 - 19:38 | 4553219 Seer
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Venezuela Also Is Being Overthrown By The Criminal Regime In Washington — Paul Craig Roberts

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/03/14/venezuela-also-overthrown-cri...

I tend to trust PCR's assessment of things.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 19:51 | 4553257 DeadFred
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Will anyone notice what Maduro does when the Russian and US nukes are flying?

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 19:54 | 4553268 Seer
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Maduro is reacting to US-backed aggitation.  Look up IRI.  NWO fucks.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:08 | 4553313 Soul Glow
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The CIA loves to stir up trouble, as well as assassinate leaders.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:45 | 4553466 flacon
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Maduro is proving yet again the abject failure of socialist/communist ideology. Why governments have to prove this over and over without learning from history is a mystery to me. 

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:48 | 4553483 Seer
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NO ideology works.  Period.

Go ahead, show me something that works with a government.   Waiting...

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 23:06 | 4553821 economics9698
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"With Chavez’s death, indigenous Venezuelan Nicolas Maduro became president. Maduro does not have Chavez’s charisma, which makes him an easier target for the tiny Spanish elite that owns the media."

What bull shit this is.  Chavez shut down several "elite" media outfits, including one my relative worked for.  Chavez was a thug who stole so he could pay Oppenhiemer 13% notes so he could stay in the good graces of the NYC bankers. 

Seer PCR does not have a fucking clue and you are full of shit.

The reason there are riots is these people cannot afford to eat.   

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 23:26 | 4553857 Seer
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So, you have a relative that's assisting the CIA?

"The reason there are riots is these people cannot afford to eat."

Obviously you are unable to actually read and comprehend what PCR wrote, you know, the part about D.C. fucking up Venezuela's currency to force it to be as fucked up as it is.

Thanks for showing your intellectual prowes by stating that I'm full of shit.  For a minute I thought you had some viable brain cells.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 23:33 | 4553869 economics9698
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RCTV was shut down by Chavez.  Chavez paid the 13% notes.  No payment to NYC, no credit and the printing begins.

Finance 101. 

If your brainwashed dumb ass was ever there you would know the fucking media is nothing but one big Chavez’s love fest.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 00:15 | 4553956 Seer
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And if you could actually read you'd have read that my position has been that you and your CIA relatives should stay the fuck out of the affairs of other nations.

Your hatred for socialism is overshadowing your ability to think.  I don't sign on to ideologies, in which case I don't suffer those sorts of blind spots.

CIA sponsored a coup before and LOST.  Maybe they pull it off this time.  Rejoice in getting more of the NWO in place!  And when it goes to shit, which it will, and when there are no "socialists" (or other such "thems") there to blame it on...

Thanks for playing!

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 00:24 | 4553969 economics9698
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The CIA coup shit is old, come up with something else, banker tool.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 04:37 | 4554229 James_Cole
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The CIA coup shit is old

Yeah, a whole 12 years, distant past man, we way past that shit now. 

...and paying the Venezuelan 'student protestors'... IS IN THE US FEDERAL BUDGET for fucks sake. Venezuela has the largest proven reserves in the world, yes, America + friends be hellbent on installing a puppet regime. 

They're operating from the Chile script, have to be blind not to see it.

The CIA, as recounted in the Church Committee report, was involved in various plots designed to remove Allende and then let the Chileans vote in a new election where he would not be a candidate: It tried to buy off the Chilean Congress to prevent his appointment, worked to sway public opinion against him to prevent his election, and financed protests designed to bring the country to a stand-still and make him resign. The CIA, acting with the approval of the 40 Committee—the body charged with overseeing covert actions abroad—devised what in effect was a constitutional coup. The most expeditious way to prevent Allende from assuming office was somehow to convince the Chilean congress to confirm Jorge Alessandri as the winner of the election. 

The CIA's second approach, the Track II approach, was designed to encourage a military overthrow, by creating an atmosphere of crisis and disaster (a "coup climate") in the country. False flag operatives approached senior Chilean military officers, in "some two dozen contacts", with the message that "the United States intended to cut military assistance to Chile unless they moved against Allende, and that the U.S. desired, and would actively support, a coup."[36] The CIA also provided extensive support for black propaganda against Allende, funneled largely through El Mercurio, but also using other media outlets. Propaganda targeted both the people and the military. Financial support was also provided for anti-Allende political opponents and for organized strikes and unrest to destabilize his government.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Chilean_coup_d'%C3%A9tat

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:48 | 4555350 Richard Chesler
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Great. zh infiltrated by socialist, commie scum.

 

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 14:45 | 4555627 James_Cole
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Great. zh infiltrated by socialist, commie scum.

Don't worry too much, heavily indoctrinated braindead drones like you are still plentiful. 

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 15:25 | 4555770 Offthebeach
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I can't figure out if you are Joe Kennedy, Delahunt or Penn.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 01:31 | 4554068 DoChenRollingBearing
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Some South American countries are working much better than Venezuela, like Peru.  Just today (Sat) my in-laws and I went and had a great day.  Lunch!  Starbucks (yes).  My wife and her sister went to see The Metropolitan Opera (see how that works).  Tai Chi in the park.

"A Pretty Good Day in Lima" http://tinyurl.com/mzy2va8
Sun, 03/16/2014 - 09:45 | 4554541 sessinpo
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Seer    "NO ideology works.  Period. Go ahead, show me something that works with a government.   Waiting..."

 

That in itself is an ideology.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 22:40 | 4553735 ArrestBobRubin
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Yes, it would be so much more efficient for the Venezuelans to have their asses fucked in by the IMF and crony "capitalists" in the person of bankster whore crypto Jew Henrique Capriles Radonski. Just think of him as the local Yatsenyuk.

Yes, what a truly wonderful place Venezuela will be when they too face the same fate as you and I and the rest of the so-called "West": that of debt slaves on the global plantation, ruled over by local Satraps.

Israel's Man in Venezuela: Henrique Capriles Radonski ...

Any other "mysteries" you need cleared up?

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 00:41 | 4554002 TheReplacement
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Aw man, you didn't blame it on Jews.  You'll get red.

Seriously, when did ZH become a haven to supporters of socialism/dictators?  Maduro is just a another bird of the same feather - a thug and a thief.   Too many on ZH cannot see that his way is a bad way and people will be unhappy with it.  They will resist it, with or without US help.  Maduro is a piece of crap and if he's hanging from a lightpost tomorrow the world will be better off.  Same for those who support him and get rich off his rape of his country.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 08:25 | 4554407 negative rates
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We don't use nukes anymore, the offending  plane is computer driven to land in russia safely.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:27 | 4553393 El Vaquero
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It wouldn't surprise me if people are rioting because their economy sucks and their government is corrupt.

It wouldn't surprise me if people are rioting because the CIA and the State Department have been in there meddling.

It wouldn't surprise me if it was both. 

 

Venezuela's government sucks, the US State Department sucks and the CIA sucks.  Fuck'em all. 

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:39 | 4553452 Seer
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And there it is!

No hypocrisy there!  No Party Pussy shit.  Just the flat-out truth from someone who actually can think like an adult.

BTW - Add in that TPTB suck.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 23:08 | 4553832 economics9698
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A Big Mac is $30 fucking dollars, that's why they are rioting.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 23:27 | 4553859 Seer
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Duly noted: supporter of CIA and McDonalds.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 23:37 | 4553885 economics9698
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McDonalds fed more hungry people than all the ideology in the world.  Take the ideology and shove it.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 00:21 | 4553966 Seer
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"McDonalds fed more hungry people than all the ideology in the world. "

Yup, an IRI-er fer sure!

"Take the ideology and shove it."

I don't suffer from any ideological blind spots.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 00:25 | 4553973 economics9698
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"I don't suffer from any ideological blind spots."

No you do not it's all about the $$$$$ 

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 09:50 | 4554557 sessinpo
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Seer    "NO ideology works.  Period.  Go ahead, show me something that works with a government.   Waiting.." "I don't suffer from any ideological blind spots."

 

But that is an ideology. Thus you do suffer from ideological blind spots. No ideology is perfect. All have pros and cons.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 05:11 | 4557632 Ar-Pharazôn
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ehm...

 

fascism and nazism worked pretty well.

 

it just depends what do you mean with "work"?

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 05:19 | 4557640 Johnny Cocknballs
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yeah, but they fed 'em shit.

 

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 22:45 | 4553767 GeorgeHayduke
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I thought you were talking about the US until I read the last line.

Folks in the US haven't reached the point of rioting yet, but the rest of it i

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 00:42 | 4554005 TheReplacement
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Well said.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 21:35 | 4553607 ronron
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but i get junked by assholes for poiting out that turd and the jackass junked PCR to sell subsciptions.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 22:38 | 4553745 ArrestBobRubin
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I up-voted you. Turd's a dolt who's actually down with the "official story" of 9/11. Any more need to be said about his lack of ability to think critically? He's either an idiot or liar and coward, either way, what good is he? At least Willie has some really interesting ideas and a unique take on things.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 02:48 | 4554110 Freddie
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I do not really like Turd.  He used to write columns here on ZH about Silver. I think he made some bad calls on silver aka the trend is your friend.  The trend changed and he could not figure it out.

Dr. Jim Willie is pretty good and Paul Craig Roberts is excellent.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 21:37 | 4553616 ronron
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ya. me too.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 19:40 | 4553224 tony wilson
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soros freee dumb

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 19:45 | 4553240 Stuck on Zero
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They are clearly Venezuelan tea party terroristas.

 

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 19:48 | 4553249 Ifigenia
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Why didnt USA take the Venezuela case to UNSC?

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 19:49 | 4553253 22winmag
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It looks like there is no lack of dicktators that need to be strung up around the globe.

 

MOAR ROPE!

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 19:52 | 4553264 Seer
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"The United States on Friday brushed aside "absurd" accusations by Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro that it was meddling in the country's internal affairs by intervening in anti-government protests."

Absurd?  It's already on the record that they had supported a failed coup against Chavez!

This has trademark US interventionism written all over it.  I don't give a fuck about others do in their own country, it's their damn business, not ours!

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 21:18 | 4553574 EatYourCornTake...
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Yeah, everything that happens in the world that doesn't go the way some dictators want it is the work of the U.S. Absolutely. The U.S is omnipotent. If someone farts in China, the U.S knows about it. Is the U.S also behind the protests in Greece, Italy and Spain? Let's see what the RT has to say about that one.

I read a study on the RT that 1 out of every 2 U.S citizens abroad is a CIA agitator stirring up trouble. Sounds like the CIA has unlimited funding. Someone call appropriations stat. 

Yeah, I'll take the word of a lunatic any day over that of politicians from the civilized world. woot woot.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 22:09 | 4553694 gallistic
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You are foolish and ignorant in ways that are difficult to describe. I certainly am not going to waste my time trying to explain it to you.

It would take a sincere, unbiased, and sustained effort to plow through the enormous amount of declassified records that exist on Venezuela and are readily available. The facts tell a completely different story, but I am certain that you are not going to put forth the effort.

Anyone can throw their "opinion" out there. You have a right to your opinion, but it is a sorry-ass uninformed opinion that demonstrates your complete ignorance and is not worth any serious consideration.

 

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 22:45 | 4553770 EatYourCornTake...
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Let's ignore the fact that the CIA is definitely active in South America and has always been.

Do you truly believe that the Venezuelan people want Maduro? There is significant opposition to this guy and with good reason.

Same thing in Ukraine, the people overthrew that crook with good reason. Not everything is a master plot by the CIA. 

Nice try discrediting my "opinion" though.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 23:32 | 4553868 Seer
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"Do you truly believe that the Venezuelan people want Maduro? There is significant opposition to this guy and with good reason."

That's NOT the question for us to decide now, is it?

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 08:57 | 4554453 Calmyourself
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Yes it is not for us to decide but it is certainly for us to opine.  You seem to fixate on outside influence never actually considering facts o nthe ground and true organic protest, your contention is no protests are legitimate or can we not discuss that?

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 22:43 | 4553761 Kaiser Doomheiser
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There can be no doubt that the US has special forces on the ground in Venezuala, committing economic sabotage and spreading terror, just like they do in dozens of other countries. Can you really be so naiive as to believe otherwise?

The Evil Empire is on the march throughout large swaths of the globe, but ignorant indoctrinated DFs like you will never understand the true nature of events until your ass in blown off in WW3. It won't be long at this rate.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 22:57 | 4553795 Carl Popper
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If you have ever been in venezuela you know that active sabotage is unnecessary. Government and public utility employees do a great deal of sabotage just by accident.

I never saw a working metal detector in the Maracaibo airport. However they did have a couple of dogs sniff my asshole.

Edit. My friends told me if they think you have something up your ass they will make you do naked squats. I think that is actually more civilized than the TSA long finger.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 23:39 | 4553889 Seer
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You think that it's much different in nearly all other countries in the world?

Like I managed to get my wife to understand, yeah, the govt in the Philippines (where she's from) is corrupt as hell, but in the US it's even worse.  Where there's more money there's more corruption.  In the US it's just better hidden/dressed up to look legit.

Personal anecdotes are just that.  ALL govts suck.

Again, people, especially of the libertarian bent, ought to stop fucking supporting propaganda even if it attacks socialists.  The truth is what matters.

Lastly, when you've started a fire the coals continue to burn long after the flames are gone.  The US's instigations in Latin America will burn for a long time even if it stops fanning the flames.  This means that many people down there are still charged with all the propaganda that was instilled in them.  People have memories and knocking off their elected leaders is no way to provide a firm basis for establishing a sound society.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 04:11 | 4554209 abunusaybah
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+1 Philipinos are really cool some of the most humble happy people i ever met  even though the politicians bend them ova on a regular basis

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 08:58 | 4554458 Calmyourself
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Dogs obviously on the CIA payroll, their all asshole sniffers..

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 22:44 | 4553764 ArrestBobRubin
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Evidently there's a star on your flag for each and every IQ point you sport.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 23:27 | 4553858 Aussie V
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I was going to give you a lesson on facts however I realise that you're too busy watching Fox News to have the time to read.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 23:49 | 4553907 Seer
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Please, let's just discuss the facts.  Fox News, I'm sure, has valid stuff on it: I, however, don't watch TV (or even Internet TV), so I can't really quantify this.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 23:29 | 4553860 Seer
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I'd stated facts.  Sorry they cannot fit in your pea brain.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 19:55 | 4553269 Peter Pan
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As far as I am concerned both Maduro and Kerry as well as most politicians are murderers. They cling to power, they sacrifice other people's sons and dughters, they kill the natural affinity that humans have for free but self correcting markets and they adopt agendas and methodologies that are alien to the wishes and interests of their citizens.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 19:58 | 4553279 Ifigenia
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so why USA must mess with others?

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:08 | 4553317 Peter Pan
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It shouldn't, particularly when its own house is in such disorder.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:15 | 4553345 Ifigenia
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disorder of the sheeps  have nothing to do for the 1%, but venezuelan oil is too attrative not to put a hand on.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 23:47 | 4553904 Seer
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Because a POOR system like socialism is such a threat!

NOTE: BAD SYSTEMS FAIL, in which case, as was the case with communism, socialism, as suggested by most here, should fail.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 09:01 | 4554461 Calmyourself
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Why must we mess?  Realpolitik says to secure long term energy supplies, crude even heavy sulfurous crude makes the world go round..

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:43 | 4553463 Seer
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"As far as I am concerned both Maduro and Kerry as well as most politicians are murderers"

Do you have a background on Maduro?

I'm pretty sure that Kerry has it (and has been at it a LONG time).

"natural affinity that humans have for free but self correcting markets"

Well, that sounds pretty and all, but when has this ever been the case?  Romanticizing tends to end up causing violence because ideological things just never seem to stand the rigors of the real world.

POWER.  If you have exploitable resources you will have people grabbing power.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 22:48 | 4553777 Seer
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2 down-arrows w/o any rebuttal.  I win! (the children have run off)

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 23:50 | 4553912 Seer
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"when has this ever been the case?"

What, no one can provide any example?

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 22:49 | 4553780 ArrestBobRubin
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Peter, the only thing you "know" about Maduro is whatever silly garbage the bankster-controlled "news media" has filled your head with. In other words, nothing. Garbage in, garbage out.

My best to Tink.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:00 | 4553287 q99x2
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Any where there is energy there seems to be problems.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:07 | 4553308 Shad_ow
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Anywhere there is tyranny there are problems.  Socialism is a social disease.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:44 | 4553464 Seer
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STUPID is a social disease.

ALL WARS ARE ABOUT RESOURCES.  Ideological ramblings are covers for starting wars...

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 22:55 | 4553800 ArrestBobRubin
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Well seen.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 09:04 | 4554463 Calmyourself
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Ideologies may be cover but prior to the wars it seems they are great at impoverishing nations and enriching ruling classes, there is a gold plated fact.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 23:45 | 4553900 Seer
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When animals are hungry fresh kill is greatly contested.

There's something about coveting what others have that the Bible is warning about... The NWO system expects that everyone should share what it has with those that have more (and have had more): read: if a country doesn't want to exploit itself for the benefit of the IMF then it should be its right to take that position (but, as John Perkins suggested [no idea if his stories are real] the Jackals come a calling if you don't want to do what TPTB want).

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:01 | 4553288 besnook
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and some claim price is determined by the market. might makes the price. the weak pay the price. 

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:45 | 4553467 Seer
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I don't know whether anyone really has a clue as to what the real price of things is.  I figure, however, that finite stuff ain't going to get any cheaper...

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:06 | 4553299 One And Only
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Give them Obamacare! For their own good!

 

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:24 | 4553377 RevRex
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So a lying, hateful socialist sack of shit calls another lying hateful socialist sack of shit a murderer......that's nice

 

 

So why doesn't Maduro just blame Bush?

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:29 | 4553404 El Vaquero
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In a way, he is blaming Bush.  Jackass Kerry works for Bush II. 

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 20:46 | 4553473 Seer
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You work for the IRI?  (member for 3 weeks)

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 21:02 | 4553526 Perimetr
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Maduro may have noticed what happened in Kiev when the protestors were not put down.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 21:34 | 4553606 Arkadaba
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Same actors, same playbook - 

Behind the Lies About Venezuela’s Protests

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 22:51 | 4553785 Seer
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Yup, it's got the CIA's fingerprints all over it.  And all the socialist-phobic morons will buy the propaganda (un-truth) that it's the Venezuelan govt that's at fault.  Go ahead and down-arrow me you CIA lovers.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 09:08 | 4554472 Calmyourself
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Cannot be organic protests nope..  Hell that government is so good,so efficient at redistribution we went ahead and imported it.  You funny guy Seer

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 09:52 | 4554564 chemystical
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"Cannot be organic protests nope.. Hell that government is so good,so efficient at redistribution we went ahead and imported it."

Could be 6 ft lizard people from Rigel 2.  Could be telekinetic macaques.

The one fact in evidence throughout this this thread is that you and your ilk have a facile skill at non sequiturs.  The OP stated that the CIA's fingerprints (per their own government's fucking documentation) are all over this. 

Rather than debate that (because you can't) and deal with it, you fling shit at the monitor.

The ONLY post that (weakly) attempted to address it said, "Well yeah, maybe CIA did foment insurrection but that was a long time ago" as if he/she/it hoped that VERY recent history might fall down the Zio memory hole.  Every Zio pig and every Quisling and every Zio loving Stockholm Syndrome sufferer wants the world to "never forget" what happened (sic) 70 years ago, but are all too willing to ignore what happened 5 seconds ago.

Intellectual frauds.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 22:21 | 4553720 Berspankme
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Like everything else, the pricks in DC will over reach and get their ass handed to them. Maybe by Putin, I don't know. But what I know is that the evil elitist statist fuckers in DC all need to be hung

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 22:37 | 4553749 Ms No
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Why does Maduro keep referring to these people as protesters?  They are not, not sure how to define them, agent provocateur, agent insurrectionist, formenter of regime change... they are not protesters.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 22:47 | 4553772 Carl Popper
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Oh they are definitely real protestors. About 45 percent of venezuela is intensely opposed to Maduro.

No doubt they receive some money and technical assistance, but those students are the real deal.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 22:54 | 4553794 Seer
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The students are the spoiled brats of the elitists there.  They're grooming to function in the NWO...

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 23:01 | 4553817 Carl Popper
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That is partly true. Most are middle and lower class, but even the elite brats were socialists until they grew up. Student politics wascextremely left wing. That is why these curent student protests are a bit confusing to me.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 23:07 | 4553830 Seer
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Pawns, doesn't matter really what their child-like ideological bent is.  They're readily made to stir up trouble, and that's what the CIA is doing.  You know, another color revolution and all... (again, read what PCR has to say about it)

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 23:15 | 4553843 Carl Popper
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Lol. Well venezuelan students love a good riot. They are fed a steady diet of patriotic revolution that makes our founding father worship look tame.

I guess they dont care which side they are on as long as they are fighting the power lol

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 09:56 | 4554575 chemystical
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"About 45 percent of venezuela is intensely opposed to Maduro."

Source? 

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 22:42 | 4553753 Carl Popper
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Students love to riot in Venezuela, even more then Greek students used to riot before the IMF cut off all their balls.

They will riot over tuition. A brother of a friendcwas killed by a tank in a riot 25 years ago. I dont even know what he was protesting.

The spirit of Simon Bolivar lives on, a man who carried a locket of George Washington's hair into battle.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 22:55 | 4553802 Seer
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I'll take PCR's position/side on this one:

Washington began the attack on Maduro by attacking the Venezuelan currency and driving down its value in currency markets. Then university students, many of whom are the children of the rich Spanish elites, were sent out to protest.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 23:12 | 4553837 Carl Popper
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It may be forces of reaction out manning the protest barriers.

I know current student opinion is badly fractured by Maduro, but even elite rich students were socialists 25 years ago.

I guess when socialism actually affects the pocketbook of the elitist stidents they drift rightward much faster perhaps?

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 23:17 | 4553845 Seer
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All I know is to not believe the propaganda from ANY side and to want outsiders to any country to keep the fuck out of the internal affairs of others.  I don't care what ideological tag is applied to anyone.

If we can quit meddling in the affairs of others then maybe we can be introspective enough to figure out what really matters (and get the power structure off our backs).

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 03:04 | 4554125 Freddie
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Russia's ruble and the Ukraine currency have also been attacked.  Who is good at that?  George Soros?  The 2008 attack in the USA to Obama "elected" was also run out of Chicago through options and futures market.  McCain and Obama are Soros and NWO stooges.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 23:51 | 4553903 Carl Popper
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It is a wonderful country. It used to be the most developed and richest economy in south america I believe. They always claimed they were lol.

The government may not ever again roll tanks to student riots, but those protestors know some of the students will get killed. Stidents have some cajones down south.

If I know my venezolanos the students are ready for a fight with lumber, rocks, malotov cocktails, and giant sling shots. The students wont use guns, but Maduro knows the ones manning the barricades and burning tires are wanting a fight. He knows what they will do and I suspect that is why he hesitates.

Sat, 03/15/2014 - 23:59 | 4553927 Seer
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Violence almost always produces casualties.  And, there's always "opposition."  Given the contraction that will continue to persist in the world's economy ALL countries will face reduced revenues.  Years back I'd argued against folks who were claiming that India was going to smoke the world.  And then the folks who proclaimed how great Brazil was.  And I even stood up to say that Germany is not the powerhouse that folks believe: the EU was crap but Germany would be fine if it tanked.  Not a single instance in which my prognostications have been wrong.

"The students wont use guns, but Maduro knows the ones manning the barricades and burning tires are wanting a fight. He knows what they will do and I suspect that is why he hesitates."

I wouldn't go so far as to think that I could have an understanding that's to this detail.

As long as it's power contesting power the result will be power in place.  Now then, if the folks rioting were intent on abolishing govt altogether (not to reform with their clique, and w/o any deals with Big Business) I'd mentally support them.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 08:32 | 4554415 negative rates
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You'd get bitch slapped too!

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 01:03 | 4554038 StychoKiller
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Dear Mr. Maduro:  Please understand that few critical-thinking Americans will stand in your way should you find the Ouevos to follow through on your threats -- in fact, if you like, we'll take up a collection to pay for your plane fare...

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 05:11 | 4554270 Tradehard
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Don't even bother with reading the ZH comments any more or most of the articles for that matter. Biased anti-west propaganda and most of the comments here are made by plebs who are bitter about being such losers.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 07:54 | 4554372 youngman
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SEER...the NWO has toilet paper..and that is all the Venzuleans want...no more gangs..theft...protection money...just to be able to go to the grocery and buy things....the shelves are empty now...

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 08:30 | 4554410 negative rates
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Good time to invest in stocking shelves then.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 08:52 | 4554442 d edwards
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I usually don't agree with marxist dictators, but he's right about Kerry.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 09:06 | 4554468 shovelhead
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Personally, I would not feel comfortable attempting to lead a country full of people with skid-mark induced hemorrhoids.

I'd man the barricades if the CIA offered me a jumbo 12 roll pak of Charmin.

Somethings are more important than money or politics and proper anal hygiene is one of them.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:20 | 4555214 moneybots
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"The challenge that the student movement will face is in finding a way to include Venezuela's laboring class, which for the most part still supports the government, and relies on its redistributive policies."

 

Bu for how long can support by the poor last, when Maduro will run out of anything to redistribute?

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 16:37 | 4555998 DutchMadness
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A President who calls half of his own citizens " rightist extremist fascists " is not fit to be  a country's President. Period.

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