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Crimea Will Formally Apply To Join Russia Tomorrow After 95.5% Support Referendum; US, UK, EU Reject Results

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UPDATE: While earlier exit polls indicated strong support, the preliminary results are now being announced:

  • *CRIMEA TO JOIN RUSSIA BACKED BY 95.5%: PRELIMINARY RESULTS
  • *CRIMEA TO REMAIN IN UKRAINE BACKED BY 3.5%: PRELIMINARY RESULTS

Crimea will apply tomorrow to join Russia:

Crimea's regional government will make a formal application today to join the Russian Federation, the local pro-Moscow leader said on Twitter after a disputed referendum to break away from Ukraine.

 

"The Supreme Soviet of Crimea will make an official application for the republic to join the Russian Federation at a  meeting on March 17," Sergiy Aksyonov said in a tweet.

The celebrations are widespread throughout Crimea:

 

Putin and Obama have spoken:

  • *PUTIN SPOKE TO OBAMA BY PHONE, KREMLIN WEBSITE SAYS
  • *KREMLIN SAYS PUTIN-OBAMA CALL INITIATED BY U.S. SIDE
  • *PUTIN TOLD OBAMA KIEV REGIME UNABLE TO CURB ULTRANATIONALSTS
  • *PUTIN TOLD OBAMA CRIMEA VOTE FULLY MET INTERNATIONAL NORMS
  • *PUTIN SAID NEED TO JOINTLY SEEK SOLUTION FOR STABLE UKRAINE

And then this:

  • *KREMLIN SAYS OBAMA CONGRATULATED PUTIN ON SOCHI PARALYMPICS

 

With a voter turnout (79.09%) that exceeded every US Presidential election since 1900, the people of Crimea have spoken:

  • *CRIMEA JOINING RUSSIA BACKED BY 93% OF VOTERS: EXIT POLL
  • *U.K. FOREIGN SECRETARY: U.K. WON'T RECOGNIZE CRIMEAN REFERENDUM

Ukraine's leaders have called up 20,000 men for a newly-created National Guard as despite the so-called "truce" Russian APCs and Tanks are rolling. Pro-Russian supporters are burning books in Donetsk after storming anti-Russian buildings. The White House is already out rejecting the vote (before the final results are released).

Voter Turnout (by region):

 

As exit polls confirm overhwleming support for Crimea to join Russia...

  • Exit poll by Crimea-based Republican Institute for Political and Sociological Studies released by Kryminform news service.
  • 93% of voters back joining Russia: exit poll

 

 

 

 

 

Despite the so-called truce, Russian APC and Tanks are moving...

 

Pro-Russian supporters are burning books in Donetsk

And Kharkiv is dominated by Pro-Russia supporters carry this huge Russian flag...

 

White House Statement:

 

 

 

The US is rejecting the vote:

The U.S. is rejecting the vote in Crimea even before the results are released.

 

The White House says Sunday's referendum on succession is contrary to Ukraine's constitution.

 

The U.S. says the world won't recognize the results of a vote held under what it says are "threats of violence and intimidation from a Russian military intervention that violates international law."

 

A written statement from the White House calls Russia's actions in Ukraine "dangerous and destabilizing."

 

The U.S. is urging other nations to "take concrete steps to impose costs" against Russia.

 

Secession was expected to be approved overwhelmingly.

And so is the UK:

  • *U.K. FOREIGN SECRETARY: U.K. WON'T RECOGNIZE CRIMEAN REFERENDUM
  • *U.K.'S HAGUE SAYS CRIMEAN REFERENDUM UNCONSTITUTIONAL
  • *U.K.'S HAGUE SAYS THERE SHOULD BE CONSEQUENCES FOR RUSSIA
  • *HAGUE: `UNACCEPTABLE' FOR RUSSIA TO TAKE MORE ACTION IN UKRAINE

And The EU:

  • *EU REITERATES CRIMEAN REFERENDUM IS ILLEGAL, ILLEGITIMATE
  • *EU SAYS IT WON'T RECOGNISE OUTCOME OF CRIMEAN REFERENDUM
  • *EU TO DECIDE ON ADDITIONAL MEASURES AGAINST RUSSIA TOMORROW

And the French:

  • *FABIUS SAYS CRIMEA REFERENDUM ILLEGAL, AGAINST UKRAINE CONST.
  • *FABIUS SAYS RUSSIA HAS RESPONBILITIES AS UN SEC. COUNCIL MEMBER
  • *FABIUS SAYS RUSSIA MUST RESPECT UKRAINE TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY

Now it's up to Putin... to weigh these potential "costs" against his gains...

 

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Sun, 03/16/2014 - 19:53 | 4556680 Negative1
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Most of Russia looks like something out of Borat.  This will be expensive for Mr Poutine.  No exchange, no refund.  Hope you like your cruddy piece of land, cuz that's what Russia needed most of all.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 19:56 | 4556690 Volkodav
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Is that best you can do to get downvoted?

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 20:01 | 4556703 IridiumRebel
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Most of Borat was shot in the USA and this is more about water...not land.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 20:22 | 4556767 daedon
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Correction, that is Mr. "Putin" .... "Poutine" is a delicacy from LA Belle Province, which may soon face its own referndum .

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 23:49 | 4557327 Rock On Roger
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Since the leaders of our fine dominion condone armed violent coups that overthrow elected, legitimate,and legal governments of foreign lands, then in my opinion Quebec has been given the green light to do whatever it decides it needs to do.

The pot is calling the kettle black.

What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

Everything you do comes back on you.

 

Stack On

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 22:31 | 4557161 Ifigenia
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and russians are force to accept yuan, yen, won, ruppee, ruble to sell oil and gas, what a pity.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 19:57 | 4556684 grekko
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Somebody tell that asswipe Carney to STF up!  The people of the Crimea have spoken.  Neocon dickheads go wipe your tears away and go to the pit prepared for you (I couldn't resist a little Gandalf).

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 20:05 | 4556712 Emergency Ward
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Throwing some red meat to his progressive base, President Obama will announce that he is considering a no-fly zone over Crimea.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 20:06 | 4556722 yogibear
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They just showed Brussels EU bankster cabal both middle fingers.

Their saying..."No former Goldman Sachs bankster technocrats allowed here!"

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 20:20 | 4556761 Joebloinvestor
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This is what Barry meant by being,"More flexible".

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 20:51 | 4556851 PatientZero
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Arguing with tanks. This guy is just as brilliant as the Obama administration.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 21:03 | 4556907 chasman
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The enemy of my enemy is my friend. That about sums up why so many EU and Americans are supporting Putin. The NWO and there socio-comie governments have been dealt a blow. The EU and there worthless currency is going to go the same way the dollar will go. People are waking up to the serfdom and slavery imposed by the EU and US governments on its citizens. I never thought I would see the day when I rooted for the once evil empire against our sociopath narcissistic president.

The US government will hopefully shut the F up and mind its own business. BUT, somehow I feel Obama will drag the USA into a big bag of poop. A cold war without manufacturing in the USA is a death plan. Then again, Obamas dream.

 

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 21:15 | 4556951 Tale2cities
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When will you be leaving for Russia?

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 21:23 | 4556984 zionhead
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"we're going to the USSR, ... you don't know how lucky we are .."

John Lennon, Beatles

Before the CIA had him killed, along with Bob Marley

 

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 21:25 | 4556990 FredFlintstone
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Why do you think they did that?

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 21:27 | 4556992 IridiumRebel
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Cuz they like shitty music?

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 22:41 | 4557184 zionhead
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Well Marley and Lennon were at the time the greatest threat to the ZIO-NEO con world, with their message of peace, love, and ... blah-blah

More to the point is that once Marley was taken out, then the MSM replaced 'Redemption Song' with Rap that led to "Fuck the bitch, Beat the bitch".

Essentially the CIA taking out Lennon&Marley lead to 1980's Ghetto self-degration,... , but this whole MIND-PORN music that we have today, largely occured because they KILLED off all the guy's that had a NICE MESSAGE, but those who talked of hate, rape, murder, revenge, ... they all became 'rich'.

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Think what fucking message is BIEBER or MADDONA, or wrecking-ball? NADA

Marley&Lennon had  a message.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 23:32 | 4557287 IridiumRebel
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I play music. I'll make sure to write a song called "IMF Debt lover!"

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 23:48 | 4557324 zionhead
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'reDEBTion Song' by zionhead-marley

Chord Progression, "G EM7 C G/B Am Em D"

...Verse 1

Old Zionists, yes they rob I
Sold my country to the Merchant Class

Minutes after they took I, from the bottomless DEBT,
But my hand was made steady, by the hand of the Almighty GOLD

We forward in this Russian Generation .... Triumphantly

... CHORUS(3x)

Won't you help to sing these songs of financial freedom? ..
Cause all I ever have, is reDEBTion Songs ...

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 21:46 | 4557036 FredFlintstone
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Never mind. I looked it up. Solid theories. Lennon was critical about US involvement in Central America just prior to Reagan's election. Marley was influential with Jamaican politics and may have caused propblems for the US puppets. Something like that.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 03:59 | 4557569 ebear
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Don't forget Jimi Hendrix

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 04:17 | 4557582 lakecity55
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Or James Dean. He died in a mysterious auto crash.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 04:16 | 4557580 lakecity55
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Hey, are you the Satoshi guy in drag?

The writing style is way similar.

Just askin

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 04:25 | 4557588 Johnny Cocknballs
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That seems exceedingly likely. 

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 21:24 | 4556986 IridiumRebel
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After you enlist to go fight fer freedumb! I'm not a Putin fan. I'm a fan of STAYING THE FUCK OUTTA WAR....which seems to be unpossible for 'Merica.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 22:38 | 4557176 Ifigenia
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quite right. for the rest of the world America and War are almost a siamese.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 10:01 | 4558054 Tale2cities
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I'm in the US military

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 21:18 | 4556958 zionhead
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Euro is only 15 years old, but the USD is on life-support ( by murdering the world )

The EURO probably has another 25 'GOOD YEARS'.

Just saying,

But the USD, its like holding BITCOIN.

 

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 21:06 | 4556919 ncdirtdigger
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If I had the Russian army in my front yard, I would tell the IRS to go to hell and vote to join Russia too!

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 21:21 | 4556978 zionhead
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An excellent POINT,

Rather than people talking about their GUNS', maybe people should be BEGGING PUTIN to come to the USA and free us all of the DHS, IRS, FBI, and NSA, ... CIA... and AIPAC.

It's clear that little people can't reclaim their government, but if we had a MAN WITH BALL's as our leader, then its doable.

*

Russia was never the enemy that was MANUFACTURED by MSM, the little people going back to Edward Bellamy "Looking Backward", always had more in common with Russian-Socialism (UNIONISM), than with FORD/ROCKEFELLER NAZISM (USA/ISRAEL TODAY).

 

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 22:41 | 4557183 Ifigenia
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and would you mind give my address to Russian army? i would like them to liberated my house from the banksters

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 21:20 | 4556966 jubber
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and the dow is up 85 points now from the opening low, OZ up 40 & S&P up 10  what a surprise!

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 21:23 | 4556969 Pressfiretostart
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Goodbye USD.

Welcome the final stage in US isolation, and the long overdue demise of its thieving global reserve currency. The EU has far too much to lose to support the US in yet another tiresome insistent refusal to accept the game is up. The US is dead, the USD is dead. The Man has moved operations to the East where those most populous nations are home to currently skinny cattle, set to be stuffed to the gills with consumer goods, taxed to high heaven, and milked dry.

This is a done deal. It's well advanced already. Where is all the Oil and Gas? Where has the Gold which will fuel this consumer mega boom, gone? Out of the BofE, onto Switzerland to be recast in China's preferred 1 Kg bars, and on and into China. The Indians, rich and poor, already have Gold aplenty draped about them...watch that make its way into CB vaults. This has been a most artfully executed game.

Watch the final move which announces in the strongest and clearest terms that the US is finished and power has gone East.How can you protect yourselves as the wealth you believed was contained in your paper and electronic currency units burns

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 00:57 | 4557420 zionhead
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The simple fact is EUROPE doesn't have OIL and MUST have it for heating.

They'll (EURO) will buy it from anyone they can buy it from.

1.) First they (ZIO-CON) tried Syria to supply saudi oil to europe, that failed at the time being

2.) Next, they (ZIO-CON) tried to steal UKRAINE, as ingress to europe for russian oil,

3.) Now, they're (ZIO-CIA/MOSSAD/MSS) in KAZAHKSTAN to steal that mother oil source for mother russia

The USA may very well die, but the ZIO-NEO-CON's are loaded to the max, and will continue to kill until they have all.

( MSS is Chinese CIA, so now you got 3 devils all on putin's back )

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 21:23 | 4556983 royal
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The will of the people and self determination is only legitimate if the US approves it.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 21:28 | 4556997 news printer
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"Right sector" threatens to destroy the Ukrainian gas transportation system (GTS) in the case of attack by the Russian Federation to Ukraine.

This is stated in the statement Leader "Right sector" Dmitry Yarosh the government and compatriots.

"If the Russian soldier boots trampled our land, we will do our best to occupant paid dearly for it. We remember that Russia is making money, perehanyayuchy oil and gas to the West through our pipe - so we will destroy this tube, depriving the enemy of sources of funding, "- stated in the appeal.

http://gazeta.ua/articles/np/_znischimo-gts-yakscho-chobit-rosijskogo-soldata-toptatime-nashu-zemlyu-arosh/547410

by the way I used google translate if You want to read original text

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 21:29 | 4556998 RottenAlpha
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Sun, 03/16/2014 - 23:04 | 4557228 Jack Burton
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China! Their copper investment game is almost over. I refer you to Max Kieser, he called this weeks ago.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 21:43 | 4557028 Pressfiretostart
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Former KGB Director 3 ( Snowden, Syria, Ukraine) etc, etc, Community Organizer: 0

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 21:53 | 4557050 JR
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The Neconc War in Kiev... Asks Lew Rockwell, “Will it lead to war?”

Eric Margolis answers in "Anschluss!"

March 15, 2014 (excerpt):

Having serially violated Russia’s traditional sphere of influence, it was inevitable Moscow would riposte. This writer, who extensively covered the Soviet Union, strongly advised NATO in the early 1990’s not to push east but to leave a strategic buffer zone in Eastern Europe to maintain peace with nuclear-armed Russia. The opposite occurred.

The western allies have committed the same error over Ukraine that they did over Czechoslovakia in the mid-1930’s:  extending security guarantees they could not possibly fulfill. As of now, it looks like Putin’s gambit over Crimea will work and there is nothing the West can do about it but huff, puff and impose mutually negative economic sanctions.

By moving twelve F-16 fighters to Poland and warships to the Black Sea, a Russian `lake,’  Washington has provided enough military forces to spark a war but not to win it. Anyway, the very clever Putin knows it’s all bluff. He holds the high cards. Germany’s Angela Merkel, the smartest, most skillful Western leader, is responding firmly, but with caution, unlike the childish US Republicans who appear to be yearning for a head-on clash with nuclear-armed Russia.

Washington’s pot-calls-kettle black denunciations of the Crimea referendum ring hollow given the blatantly rigged votes coming up in US-dominated Egypt and Afghanistan.

Moreover, too few in Washington are asking what earthly interests the US has in Ukraine? About as much as Russia has in Nebraska. Yet the bankrupt US is to lend $1 billion to the anti-Russian Kiev leadership and risk war in a foolish challenge to Russia in a region where it has nothing to be gained.

Except, of course, for the US neocons who have played a key role in engineering the coup in Kiev and this crisis. They want to see Russia punished for supporting Syria and the Palestinians.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/03/eric-margolis/the-neocon-coup-in-kiev/

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 22:56 | 4557208 Debt Slave
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They want to see Russia punished for supporting Syria and the Palestinians.

Hmm both hated by Israel. How about that.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 21:56 | 4557065 Debt Slave
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The U.S. is urging other nations to "take concrete steps to impose costs" against Russia.

Other nations wonder why doesn't the U.S. STFU and mind it's own business, like the joke it has for an economy?

The question of course is rhetorical.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 22:19 | 4557119 Runs-With_Toast
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Fuk, forget the thin edge this is moving to the full wedge. Nato wanted the Crimean naval base in this order, Ukraine coup / Ukraine joins NATO / Russian Sevastopol naval lease cancelled /  US naval forces move in./ Missile shield put up. / Encirclement of Russsia achieved.

Russia saw it coming.

PLan B. War. First economic sanctions / then Ukraine false flag / Nato steps in to help its member. / War

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 22:40 | 4557163 cpzimmon
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Why the fuck don't we leave them alone? They don't like us because our imperialistic greed. More power to them. Who likes somebody trying to take control of their way of life? I don't like it because I don't like them (the EU and TPTB) trying to take control here in the U.S. No wonder that we are the laughing stock ( and the largest Hippocrites) of the world.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 22:48 | 4557193 Rogue Economist
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Latest Collapse Cafe discussion on the Crimean plebecite and pending Russian annexation on the Doomstead Diner.

RE

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 23:00 | 4557214 discopimp
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Had the Russian tanks heard the music that guy was listening to, they would have opened fire first and asked questions later.

 

Also if those were US Federal jackboots there is no way their lazy _sses would have moved that tank for a civilain...boy the Russian's are civil!

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 23:40 | 4557238 Quus Ant
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Now have Western Ukraine vote on becoming the 51st US state.

U wanna get nuts?  C'mon.  Let's get nuts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NriOZ6ofj_Q

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 23:13 | 4557253 Jack Burton
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The Daily Mail the UK's right wing rag has full coverage of the election celebration with videos. I checked the comments sections. The comments were running 20-30 to 1 in favor of Crimea's right to choose! And this is on a pro war right wing fucking RAG! Imagine that!

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 23:21 | 4557270 Rock On Roger
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Same with the Globe and Mail in Canada.

Our 'so called' leaders are traitors to humankind.

 

Stack on

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 03:09 | 4557506 Manipuflation
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I spoke with some family in Russia and they asked what I thought about it.( I am an Merican)  I said I really don't know what to think and that I am not sure that I even care that much.  It's just not my business and Russia has been involved in Crimea since at least the 1700's.  They have a major naval base there and have for a long time.  The only thing I cautioned on was that there will be more mouths to feed.  Russians understand the term of feeding a mouth.  I was told that the mouths will be fed and there is little concern about that fact which does make sense. 

Crimea is primarily Russian anyway.  I married into that country for a reason and it was not because I thought Russians were weak.  There really is a difference in the language as well.  I have known about this battle long before ZH even existed but it is not my fight per se.  These travel restrictions could be a real problem and an unfair penalty on my children.  Somehow, over the years we have found a way to get along just fine and develop some respect for each other.  We have hosted many Russian student friends here.

Russians are not like us in many ways.  They have a spirit in them that goes something like this:  "Oh, here comes shit our way again.  Fuck it, we will fight it and survive."  My three year old son does not speak English but can speak Russian very well.  I do not speak Russian.  Perhaps some prhases.  I have insisted that he be raised to be this way and not like an American child.  My son punches me in the balls sometimes on a sneak shot.  I hate that. 

My daughter speaks Russian as well.  Yep, half the time I do not know what the hell is even being said around this house.  That is largely because I am getting old and stupid and I don't learn nearly as quickly as I used to be able to do.  Maybe I already learned what I need to know.  I want the wife and children to be able to leave and live a good life but I am staying here.

I have heard some talk about seccession out there on U.S. boards.  I am not getting any younger here and the political process does not work.

For that matter where is AKAK?  I would like to know.  You don't leave fellow soldiers behind.     

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 23:41 | 4557307 zionhead
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NZ Now Reporting that CIA-TALEBAN Stole Airplane

Well at least one country in the WEST has balls

Was Flight 370 flown into a Taliban area?
New Zealand Herald? - 19 minutes ago
... from Malaysia to Kazakhstan and crossing more than 10 countries, and ... A former intelligence officer with the CIA says the disappearance of ...

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 00:06 | 4557359 Quus Ant
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Thanks for the link. 

From the article:

"For a commercial plane to pass undetected through these regions, which are highly militarised with robust air defence networks, many run by the US military, would require a combination of extremely sophisticated navigation, brazen audacity and security failure by those monitoring international airspace."

It would also require a pliant populace incapable of questioning power.

 

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 00:27 | 4557393 zionhead
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Yes, you QUESTION the CIA CONTROLLED MIL in MYANMAR and you are DEAD or RAPED.

*

Yep, the CIA has ran MYANMAR since the British pulled out,
Millions have been murdered,

Why some might ask?

Because long ago GOLDMAN-SACHS invested to build dams and turn MYANMAR into one big HYDRO-PLANT and JAP's would be the buyers.

It was the JAP plan in WWII to turn BURMA(Now Myanmar) into a Hydro-Plant.

Today the GS money is still being spent the largest free flowing rivers left in ASIA are in MYANMAR.

Millions killed by the CIA, cuz they refuse to leave their ancestral lands.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 02:08 | 4557484 zionhead
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Well these are all 3rd world country's and all those troops on the ground, their job is shoot and rape the locals. I doubt they ever look up the sky, nobody ever heard the word 'civil aviation' in any of these country's Myanmar northward.

I do agree that the path was well chosen, and its certainly telling that while in ASIA we're be told the truth all along that in the west is still being fed shit, to get everybody bored and to quit listening.

Funny the west is still showing all these crazy zig-zag flight paths and bullshit, but in ASIA the TV shows a direct path to Kazakhstan.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 23:43 | 4557315 MeBizarro
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BFD.  It almost certainly wasn't a legit election (you can't get 93% of a large group of people to agree on almost anything) but even if it was Crimea would vote to be annexed & join Russia due to simple demographics. 

Nobody in the West (citizentry) cares.  The next issue is when does Putin roll into Eastern Ukraine with military forces and how far into Ukraine he is willing to go.  Only ways he ever overplays his hand is if he rolls Russian armor to the edge of the Poland & Romania border with Ukraine.  That will provoke a response from NATO including Turkey.   

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 00:00 | 4557348 luckylogger
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fwiw I agree with what you say. I live in the us and nobody I know could give a shit one way or another. If Puen wants to spend so much money on a junky area then go for it. Take it and support the folks that live there.

Obviously Ukrain cannnot support them.

I dunno what to say about the rest of the mess- mixed feelings. Maybe fuk it and maybe start a nuclear war...... time will tell.

Somehow I believe it is out of my hands now.......

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 00:00 | 4557349 luckylogger
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fwiw I agree with what you say. I live in the us and nobody I know could give a shit one way or another. If Puen wants to spend so much money on a junky area then go for it. Take it and support the folks that live there.

Obviously Ukrain cannnot support them.

I dunno what to say about the rest of the mess- mixed feelings. Maybe fuk it and maybe start a nuclear war...... time will tell.

Somehow I believe it is out of my hands now.......

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 00:00 | 4557351 luckylogger
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fwiw I agree with what you say. I live in the us and nobody I know could give a shit one way or another. If Puen wants to spend so much money on a junky area then go for it. Take it and support the folks that live there.

Obviously Ukrain cannnot support them.

I dunno what to say about the rest of the mess- mixed feelings. Maybe fuk it and maybe start a nuclear war...... time will tell.

Somehow I believe it is out of my hands now.......

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 04:17 | 4557581 Setarcos
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You live in the us, wherever and whatever that is, but I guess it's the area where 25% of people believe that the Sun goes around the Earth and about the same number cannot locate New York on a map.

BINGO! You meant USA, I should have guessed from your inability to spell and construct a coherent, logical sentence, never mind your total ignorance about a "junky area" which contains more resources than you could comprehend.

Go back to school.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 00:15 | 4557373 zionhead
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Johnny right on, ... but the new twist that we all were perplexed is where is 'CHINA' on this?

Here in CHINA we're now told we must invade Kazahkstan to 'rescue' the hostages from the 'tableban'.

USA is to assist that mean's overnight the ZIO-CON(USA/ISRAEL/CHINA) steals from RUSSIA one of the biggest sources of oil on earth.

Thus the UKRAINE could of been a decoy, while the real fuck on PUTIN was Kazahkstan.

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Chinese, CIA, and ZIOCON collude to take Kazahkstan from Russia

The country 'Kazahkstan' borders China and Russia and has 39.6 billion barrels of recoverable reserves, which ranks Kazakhstan eighth in the world, above Libya and below Russia, according to the annual BP Statistical Review of World Energy.

The republic says reserves, in and on the shore of the Caspian Sea, may reach 100 billion barrels. Total world reserves are 1.19 trillion barrels.

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Once USA/CHINA occupy's KAZAHKSTAN with US-MIL (ZIO-CON) troops they will never leave, ... now PUTIN has a war on the southern front.

This means that all these chinese tourists that died to date, were all sacrificed to create a war demand in CHINA,... but engineered by CIA?MOSSAD with CHINESE zio-mercantile support.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 00:19 | 4557387 zionhead
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Chinese 'CIA' the MSS is said to be a den of ZIO-NEO-CON Rat's.

The investigation focused on China’s Ministry of State Security (MSS), China’s primary intelligence agency, where the accused spy was reportedly working at the time of his arrest. Although Chinese media have remained silent on the issue, the arrested official is said to have worked as a senior aide to MSS Vice Minister Lu Zhongwei.

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It is appearing that the ZIO-NEO-CONS have completely taken over the CHINESE MSS ( CIA/MOSSAD in CHINA ).

Well this was all predicted in a world of TRILLIONAIRES.

I wonder how much of the KGB is now "OWNED" by ZIO-NEO-CON?

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 03:59 | 4557568 lakecity55
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Great article over there on Voltaire.

Other than maybe a 90% chance the spook services know, nobody else knows where the plane is. It is a distraction to this event. Right now, anyone not in intel could claim the aircraft is anywhere.

Thunderball!

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 05:02 | 4557622 Johnny Cocknballs
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I don't think there's any chance the Pentagon couldn't track the thing, so I therefore think their silence on the matter suggests their involvement. 

Lots of theories out there, take your pick, but it does seem to me that if it didn't crash somewhere, it was taken in order to retrieve human or electronic intelligence on board.

But your guess is as good as mine. 

I think it's a good time to keep our eyes fixed on Syria and Iran.

I just can't believe the fucking idiots in charge are in charge.  I can't believe there hasn't been some sort of revolt.

The extent of media control/minding is astounding.  No one with, for example, smoking gun evidence, of, just say theoretically, US and Israeli involvement in running 9/11, would ever make the air, or be featured in print.  Anything implicating Israel would be doubly, triply gate-kept.

 

These fucks are gonna get their war, and it doesn't look like the American people, let alone the spooks, have any intention of stopping it. 

 

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 05:09 | 4557630 zionhead
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Well that's all funnier than hell because here in ASIA on my TV for the past 24 hours they're showing a direct flight from Kuala Lumpur (KLM) to Kazakhstan, graphics and all and they're saying to was sent to Tableban CIA controlled area's.

A few hours ago New Zealand started reporting such, and now UK is reporting such.

It's seems the only people on earth that don't know where the plane is, is the US-ZIO controlled MSM media.

Of course Boeing Chicago controlled Rahm Emanuel and company knew all along the plane was picked up by CIA Taliban, and deposited in Taleban controlled areas.

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But here's the DEAL this MSM is showing this zig-zag, ... but the media here is showing a one-way direct flight, straight from KLM to Kazakhastan.

If you see a circus look for a clown.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 05:17 | 4557636 zionhead
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IHMO the ZIO's got every spook on the Billionaire payroll courtesy of team-trillionaire.

Nobody in club-spook is going risk their golden-pension to save PUTIN.

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Israel is now 24/7 demanding that Kazakhastan break away from Russian, and the plane is sent to Kazkhastan,... please somebody here 1 + 1 = what?

Israel has tried to steal Syria, Ukraine, and now Kazakhastan, in what a six month period? This has got to be record for KLEPTOCRACY in all human history,... even Hitler didn't take them down this quick.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 00:03 | 4557350 zionhead
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Chinese, CIA, and ZIOCON collude to take Kazakhstan from Russia

Why take a plane of Chinese tourists to Kazakhstan? Why would CHINA & USA want to INVADE Kazakhstan to drone CIA Taleban?

The plot thicken's.

It now appears that all the killing by CIA assets in CHINA was a colluded setup with the CIA, to SELL the Chinese people the Invasion and a war with Russia.

Now the story is becoming clear.

The country borders China and Russia and has 39.6 billion barrels of recoverable reserves, which ranks Kazakhstan eighth in the world, above Libya and below Russia, according to the annual BP Statistical Review of World Energy.

The republic says reserves, in and on the shore of the Caspian Sea, may reach 100 billion barrels. Total world reserves are 1.19 trillion barrels.

Chinese, CIA, and ZIOCON collude to take Kazahkstan from Russia

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=12586

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Well it looks like RUSSIA is standing alone in its opposition to world ZIO-CON dominion. Perhaps this bullshit of the CHINESE COMMIE (ZIO-MERCANTILE) government with the CIA, will provoke chinese dissidents to call their government to be whores, ran just like the USA by ZIO-NEO-CON.

Does the CIPAC run CHINA? [ chinese israel political action committe ]

Appears so.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 00:22 | 4557390 Rock On Roger
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The world has turned several times since 2005.

And the link says fuck all about China.

What a bunch of shit Satoshi666 or whatever...

 

Stack on

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 00:32 | 4557401 zionhead
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Roger, I referenced the link for one reason only because it has a complete CIA list of OIL resources in said country.

I just wanted to post the link so that others could understand the strategic importance of KAZAHKSTAN.

Also important is that its been ZIO-NEO-Con fuck there for years well before 2005, and of course its all about OIL.

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But its clear that your attempting to change the subject and venture to personal attacks, so I will repeat the story.

The story is that we're NOW being told the missing Malay airplane has been taken to KAZAHKSTAN, and now we're told that CHINESE/USA troops must go there and save the 'plane'.

Why Kazahkstan,... I think readers can see for themselves.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 02:28 | 4557505 Rock On Roger
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I say you're trolling bullshit.

Diego Garcia seems a likely spot to land a plane.

Seems much more in tune with yankee doodle's shenanigans.

 

Stack On

 

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 04:59 | 4557518 zionhead
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That wasn't my point for 2+ days my TV here in china is telling me with graphics that the Hijacked AIRplane (MH-370) went straight from Malyasia (KLM) to Kazahkstan (Taleban-CIA).

My question, why is the ASIA media telling me the truth, but the western media playing stupid with conflicting theory(s) and bullshit 24/7, even cnn, abc are still in the wilderness?

ZH of course will stay in the wilderness until 4+ hours after Reuters 'stamps' the story to be spread.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 02:02 | 4557480 Atomizer
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World ZIO-CON dominion:

  • Wang; Peidong
    Chen; Zhijun
    Cheng; Zhihong
    Ying; Li

 

 

 

  1. Blackstone
Mon, 03/17/2014 - 04:59 | 4557511 zionhead
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MH 370 Obama Chip - Bitcoin in the Rectum

Texas RFID microchip company may have had 20 (?) employees on board the Malaysian 370 that just went missing in Kazahkstan, ... Freescale Semiconductor Ltd out of Austin Texas makers of RFID microchips had employees on missing plane. Were these people ‘taken out’ because they knew something about the upcoming Obamacare microchip soon coming to Americans?

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This is the so called 'OBAMA CHIP' to be inserted in everyone's asshole, and these guys weren't playing game, and besides the CIA wanted them OUT, so they could take over all fabrication themselves, and then only CIA/NSA would know the backdoor in the micro-code.

The Obama-Chip is such that it keeps track of your health, life, tracks you, and everything you do, ... some call it BITCOIN-Up-The-Ass.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 00:07 | 4557363 Stinko da Munk
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If we offer Hillary as a blood sacrifice perhaps Vladimir will leave the remaining parts of Ukraine alone. It would be a good trade for all involved. We can throw in Horsey Heinz as a condiment.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 00:31 | 4557403 D-Fens
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I stand with democracy and the people of the Crimea, who have chosen to leave the failed state of the Ukraine (whose failure itself was helped along by the United States), and join with their cousins in Russia.

I also stand against the incompetence and corruption of the apparatchiks in Washington D.C.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 00:53 | 4557419 kchrisc
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Now Putin could legitimately fly in on a fighter jet and proclaim, "Mission Accomplished." LOL

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 01:20 | 4557451 Kina
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Sanactions against Russia no doubt will be countered by destablisation in Saudi Arabia, or attacks on Saudi oil wells....just to put the fear of god into USSA.

 

No amount of sactions on Russia balance out the middle east oil sensitivities that Europe and USA have.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 03:50 | 4557560 lakecity55
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A continued push by the banksters will no doubt result in some Russian skulduggery. The Zionist captured governments need to back off, but they will not. No doubt some opposition is due to Tsarist pogroms against the Khazars in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Payback? Who knows.

Russia has Crimea. They need to let the west wiggle out or there will be war.

I would look for sabotage on the pipelines next. Just as the liver-eaters in Syria cannot be controlled, neither can the NAZIs in western Ukraine. This would set the stage for a Russia-NATO conflict which will go hot.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 01:45 | 4557467 Atomizer
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Don't let me down Scotland. I may be 4th generation in the States. We still honor our tartan colours. Dump those EU bitches.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 02:16 | 4557491 Coldfire
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Congratulations to Crimeans on their peaceful rejection of US vassalage.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 07:51 | 4557790 Liberty2012
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And also "peacefully" accepting Russia too ;)

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 02:32 | 4557508 Gadfly
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This pretty much says it all:  95.7% of Crimeans Give The Finger To The White House Tyrant — Paul Craig Roberts March 16, 2014 | Categories: Articles & Columns | Tags: Crimea returns to Russia, |  Print This Article

 

95.7% of Crimeans Give The Finger To The White House Tyrant

Paul Craig Roberts

In an unprecedented turnout unmatched by any Western election, Crimeans voted 95.7% to join Russia. As I pointed out earlier today, under the twisted logic of Washington Crimea has never been a part of Ukraine as Russians were not allowed to vote when the Soviet dictator Khrushchev stuck the Russian province of Crimea into Ukraine in 1954.

While Crimeans celebrate in the streets and international observers declare the referendum to be totally fair and free of all interference and threat, the neo-Nazi White House declared that “we don’t recognize no stinking vote.” The moronic White House spokesperson said that the White House and “the international community”–Washington in its arrogance thinks that it is the voice of “the international community”–do not recognize the results of democracy in action.

Democracy is not acceptable to Washington, or to the two-bit punk American puppets who rule for Washington in Germany, UK, and France, when democracy does not serve Washington’s agenda of hegemony over the entire world. The neo-Nazi White House spokesperson lied through his teeth when he claimed that the referendum, which has been declared by international observers to have been completely free, was “administered under threats of violence and intimidation.”

This statement, which the entire world now knows to be false, marks the government in Washington, and its subservient media, as the worst and most dangerous liar the world has ever experienced. All Washington is capable of is lies: Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction and al Qaeda connections, Syrian President Assad used chemical weapons against his own citizens, Iran has a nuclear weapons program, Gaddafi gave his soldiers viagra so they could better rape Libyan women, Russia invaded Crimea, Osama bin Laden was the mastermind of 9/11. I could continue with hundreds of incidences of Washington’s lies. Indeed, among aware people the word Washington has become synonymous with liar.

When will the world sanction the criminal enterprise that pretends to be a government of the United States??

When will the War Crimes Tribunal and the International Criminal Court issue arrest warrants for Obama and his entire criminal regime as well as the criminal regimes of Bush and Clinton?

When will the assets of the US government and its criminal members be seized?

How long will the world tolerate Washington’s incessant destruction of countries and peoples from Somalia to Afghanistan to Iraq to Libya to Pakistan to Yemen to Syria to Ukraine, with Russia, Iran, and China waiting in the wings?

The United States government is the worst criminal enterprise in the history of the world. Not a single member of the government has told the truth about anything in the entire 21st century. The executive branch lies consistently to Congress, and the cowardly, weak, despicable fools sit there and take it. Congress is so useless it might as well be abolished. I expect Obama to issue an executive order abolishing the useless institution at any moment.

But “we have freedom and democracy.”

The truth is that the entire evil of the universe is concentrated in Washington. It is this evil that is destroying millions of lives, and it is this evil that will destroy the world.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 02:46 | 4557526 zionhead
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How long will the world tolerate Washington’s incessant destruction of countries and peoples from Somalia to Afghanistan to Iraq to Libya to Pakistan to Yemen to Syria to Ukraine, with Russia, Iran, and China waiting in the wings?

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The entire world is on the ZIO-CON payroll, all the worlds trillionaire's have back-door access to the FED-RES.

WHo is owned by ZIO-CON?

1.)Mss -chinese cia - Ministry of State Security of the People's Republic of China (MSS) is the security agency of the People's Republic of China

2.) Kgb - russia

3.) mi6 - uk

4.) cia - usa

5.) mossad - israel

Every asshole on earth is owned by ZIO-CON,

Now ask me again, ... who the fuck is going to stop the USA/ISRAEL? Russia alone? Not when +50% of their INTEL is zio-spy, and China its worse the chinese MSS is said to be +70% co-opted by ZIO-FIAT.

PUTIN's own KGB can't be trusted by PUTIN, who the fuck is going to stop the madness?

Nobody.

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This year the ZIO-CON have stole Syria, UKRAINE, and now KAZAHKSTAN, ... and all PUTIN can do is smile and act tough.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 19:25 | 4560987 Runs-With_Toast
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You know, Fuk Im getting this off my chest. I hate the school bully attitude. Why do Americans seem to fall for this shit. Is it the flouride? the trash diet? Then once again I will meet an American I like which confounds me. Are they mostly good people caught up in some mind control nightmare? Or is the USA called Rome II lost on arrogance and power, but done on leverage anad credit FFS. They will fall like Rome, but on a compressed time frame due to the massive compounding and growing debt and exponential world USA loathing index. It will be ugly

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 02:44 | 4557525 El Gordo
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Good news, bad news.  First, the good news is that POTUS could care less about what his friend Putin is doing in Europe and/or Asia.  The bad news is that he wouldn't know what to do about it if he did care.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 02:56 | 4557532 NOTfromSanFrancisco
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Crimea MUST be holding some gold... The 33 tons the U.S. took from the Ukraine was not nearly enough... I reckon if Russia will hand over the gold, they can have Crimea...

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 03:06 | 4557537 Manipuflation
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They are Russians anyway.  What is the debate?  Russians say they will pay to help their brethren so what is the problem?  This is good deal for Crimea.  The Russians are laughing at us for sending a billion dollors to Ukraine.  I was asked, and told, today, "Are you idiots to give to Ukraine moar monies?  You must be stupid there." by a Russian.  I really did not know what to say and then I was asked.  "Where do you think these money goes?  This money is stolen already and you are idiots for sending.  What the matter is with you over there?  This billion has been dranked already".

Pretty hard to respond to that.  I edited a bit but it is very accurate.    

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 03:35 | 4557551 lakecity55
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The % of voter turnout was impressive. I dare say if Amurichans were as interested in their current events, we may not have some of our problems.

So ethnic Russians who live in an enclave of Russia voted to formally rejoin Russia. I think it is called self-determinaion.

I cannot think of any reason for the USG to oppose this unless it it on financial terms. They do not want to be a part of the western banking cartels, so they are bad.

If Putin were doing a Third Reich deal, building up massive armies, demanding ALL Germanic-type lands back, and demanding 'living room' in the west, I would say we had a problem, as in a Hitler. This is not the case.

The dual-national US Neocons must be defeated. They are connected at the ass to the banksters. The USA has no dog in this fight. Too bad the USA is not the USG.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 04:23 | 4557585 Manipuflation
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+1 Lake.    

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 03:26 | 4557544 headless blogger
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Twitter is down right now. Is it just me or is a lot of these sites getting knocked out lately?

So what will sanctions do? More economic-saber rattling. Russians aren't like Syria or Iran, they actually have some economic weapons in their bag that could actually backfire on the West.

These Western backed "Oligarchs" they installed in E. Ukraine are also likely to get their heads cut off. Igor Kolomosky (something like that), is just a little Pontius Pilate, but it won't have a good outcome.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 03:27 | 4557548 kedi
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Had to laugh at comments from various leaders, that the referendum was not legitimate, because it was held "at gun point". So many votes of various issues have been held in countries occupied by American and or NATO forces. As long as the vote went the "Right" way, at the point of the "Right" guns. All is legitimate and right.....

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 03:51 | 4557559 GeorgeSilver
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KOSOVO 17 FEB 2008

George Bush said:-

“At some point in time - sooner rather than later - you’ve got to say’Enough is enough.   Kosovo is independent’ and that’s the position we’ve taken.”

 

UKRAINE 11 MAR 2014

Barrrack Obama says:-

“The proposed referendum on the future of Crimea would violate the constitution and violate international law”

 

You just can’t make this stuff up.   What a load of jokers.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 03:53 | 4557563 zionhead
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Kazakhstan: ZIO-CIA has started making move's to Justify "Saving Kazakhstan from PUTIN"

In the coming day's massive USA/CHINESE troops will be deployed to KAZAKHSTAN to find MA-370 airplane,

If Russia is smart they'll move their troops in quicker to "help find the plane", otherwise like UKRAINE they'll lose this precious oil resource.

*** Zio 'New Republic' Demands that the WEST Grab Kazkhstan ASAP

“There are signs of disapproval by the ruling elite in Kazakhstan regarding the Russian military involvement in Ukraine,” write Peter Elstov and Klaus Larres in the New Republic. “Putin’s longtime supporter President Nursultan Nazarbayev is cautiously silent, but spontaneous protests in front of the Russian Consulate in Almaty, the largest city in Kazakhstan, have not been disbanded by the police. This should not be surprising: Russians in Kazakhstan constitute about 24 percent of the population – more than 3 million people. In northern Kazakhstan, almost 50 percent of the population is Russian, with some areas having a majority of Russians. It is not inconceivable – following the logic behind the annexation of Crimea by the Russian army – that Putin may, at some point, want to return parts of northern Kazakhstan to the Russian orbit, particularly if this country becomes politically unstable.”

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 04:01 | 4557570 zionhead
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dup

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 04:01 | 4557572 zionhead
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ZIO-ZAKARIA of CNN advises Kazakhstan to Come over to Israel - Before PUTIN declares that Kazakhstan has Russian's living there ...

http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2014/03/11/zakaria-putin-improvi...

It's all falling into place ... very rapidly.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 04:22 | 4557584 bk1037
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Putin and Russia are starting to remind me more and more of North Korea. First we have a unaninimous vote of the Duma to authorize intervention in Ukraine, then we have near unanimous approval for Crimea to annex to Russia. I have utterly no idea why the Crimeans think it is so great to be part ot Russia, but I will say, that Putin has a tendency to make everything he does appear legitimate by near 100% support for his initiatives. This is the true definition of a dictator, no one in his right mind is going to go into a Crimean polling place, with Russian military going around openly, where reporting of votes against Russia likely reported to secret police, imprisonment, punishment etc.

If the people in Crimea are not motivated enough to fight for their independence, then why should they count on anyone else to do it for them? Likewise for East Ukraine and Ukraine in general, they need to show EU, US and UK their motivation to fight to be independent. Cause if they are not motivated enough to fight to be free of Russia, they are about not to be.

What is scary is this North Korea type pyschosis is afflicting a very powerful country, one who can devastate many places in case of a war. A large country such as Russia is not unaninous in any political issues. This pro - Russian blog attempts to rationalize much of this Russian behavior because of all the perceived sins of the United States and western powers. While the USA is far from perfect, by damn I would be unwilling to be asubject under a smug son of a bitch like Putin, and it amazes me that a place like Russia, that they are only able to deal with an autocrat. Their flirtation with capitalism bombed in the 90s, we did not do enough to encourage a democracy and a western format in Russia and we will now pay the price for this shortsightedness.

If the bankers are behind this, they will not succeed, as the American people are fed up with intervention in places like this. I grew up in a Cold War era and it appears we have just entered another Cold War era. I will still take the American way of life over the Russian way of life, any day of the year, period. NATO has been repurposed successfully, so much for savings on our military budget. And for these reports on the Russians downing a drone, tough shit. All it was doing was surveillance, and not boots on the ground like Putin is doing. I will match the USA drone fleet against Russia if this is a new aspect of Cold War 2. And the Russians will lose a lot more military than we will if we add Predator drones to the mix if hostilities begin, which I dearly hope they do not.

And here is to Republicans keeping their mouth shut a little more than they have been. Obama is not the ultimate foe here, Putin is, and you guys better realize it. Russia thinks it is an illegitmate government in Ukraine, put that to the test, just like the Russians did in Crimea. Hold an election and bounce that pro-Russian SOB on his butt. And have it look legit, not 96% support like Russia who does not know how to hold an election they have any chance of losing. What a sorry place to live in, Snowden can have it. Much like North Korea, one would need to be a fool to challenge the authorities or to vote against them, one would pay with their lives which explains about damn near anything. And the media gobbles these things up like the vote is legitimate.

But don't go in and help Ukraine, unless they are willing to show they are willing to arm and fight for their country. The USA fought for its independence, Ukraine can fight for theirs if it is that important to them. Time will tell. The American people are beginning to realize what we have in Putin, and I suspect will defend Ukraine if Ukraine shows this willingness.

 

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 04:57 | 4557616 NuYawkFrankie
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Down-Arrow.

And didnt even get past the first sentence ;0)

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 05:35 | 4557645 bk1037
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I expected thumbs down from you losers who don't want to take the time to offer an intellectual basis for your disagreement. Putin is not the cool guy in this, I will disagree with anyone who thinks this dictator is cool and should be emulated or respected. Read the Garry Kasparov column in Politico if you don't like my message, and for a fuller message as to why Putin is disrespected in Russia if not openly, Use your smarts to understand why things appear unananimous.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 05:59 | 4557658 Manipuflation
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Shut up and go to Russia.  I seems you have not been there.  It is a very different world over there. 

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 06:41 | 4557685 smacker
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When you claim that Putin is not cool, you almost certainly are among like-minded people on ZH. I've never seen anybody here sing his praises because that is not the issue and other people are well aware that he's no angel. What people here are saying is that our own governments are far worse, where criminality and corruption at the highest levels of government are running the show.

The issue here is that the West engineered a coup in Ukraine by a bunch of no-good fascist thugs and the people of Crimea have now responded that their absolute right to self determination is to leave Ukraine and become part of the Russian Federation. It really is that simple, Except that the govts of the US, UK (and now France has joined in) and the totally unelected slimeballs in Brussels run by the old commie Barroso have arbitrarily decided that this vote is unconstitutional and must not be allowed. Since when do these Western criminals have a remit to pontificate about the domestics of other nations?

I do not believe that Western governments have one single line of authority to say anything on the subject. It is none of their business.

If you cannot see all that, that's too bad.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 05:53 | 4557657 Manipuflation
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"I have utterly no idea why the Crimeans think it is so great to be part ot Russia"

 

They are Russians is why.  Perhaps reading up on the history of that region would be in order?  You have clearly never to been to Russia.  Go there and see for yourself.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 04:32 | 4557591 NuYawkFrankie
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Cameron, Clegg, Osbourne, Haig....

Why do Brit Scum-Pols always look so freekin gay?

And the women - like that Ashton broad - look so goddam ugly?

WTF gives?

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 04:45 | 4557606 Pressfiretostart
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We Americans are totally fed up with the lies and sabre rattling of the likes of Obama and McCain.

All of this posturing by our government has very little support from the average American citizen. How many lies can we take in one lifetime?

 To hell with these chaos merchants who sow the seeds of discontent and destruction of peoples and cultures throughout the world! This is not what America is about! This is not what our people want!.

Our greatest enemies are those who would sacrifice our sons and daughters for greater profit for the arms dealers and the sociopathic "leaders" who sit in Congress. Enough! We have had enough of lying, of misrepresentations and hate-mongering.

We are losing a great nation. Worse yet, we are betraying our promise to the world.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 04:52 | 4557612 Johnny Cocknballs
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good stuff from Bobby Parry:

Mainstream US Media Is Lost in Ukraine
Mon, 03/17/2014 - 04:56 | 4557614 zionhead
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UK is now reporting that missing plane is in CIA held Tableban area

Slowly but surely 'reuters' will report and then ZH will follow sad, because for a day now here in ASIA our TV has been saying the plane is in Tableban CIA control.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysian-airlines-mh370...

It is believed the missing Boeing 777 could have been flown to somewhere in Afghanistan or a part of Pakistan

Malaysia missing plane graphic

Missing Malaysia Airlines flight 370 could now be in a Taliban-controlled base on the Afghanistan and north west Pakistan border, it has been claimed.

The search, now covering 11 countries, has so far offered very few clues on the whereabouts of the Boeing 777 which disappeared nine days ago from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

Experts are now in agreement that the plane was hijacked or sabotaged and one theory that has been put forward is that it is being kept in a Taliban area ready for use at a later date, according to the Independent.

The plane is believed to have flown either to the north west from the Malaysian peninsula or south west.

If it was the former, then it could be in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan or Tajikistan.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 05:05 | 4557627 medium giraffe
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Missing plane. Hahahahahahahahahahaha!  Anyone still falling for this overcooked ham needs to be slapped.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 05:12 | 4557633 zionhead
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Yep, ... but even right now the CNN and CNBC can't find the airplane, but here in ASIA they all say they know exactly where its at,...

It appears the MSM in ZIO-LANDS will continue to play 'hide the salami, in Obama's arse', as long or until Bieber get's busted, ... or something worse.

CIA steals airplane full of CHINESE tourists, now HOW in the fucking hell is zio-msm going to spin this bitch?

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 05:18 | 4557639 medium giraffe
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Instead... only try to realise the truth.  There is no plane.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 05:23 | 4557641 zionhead
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Nope, I live here in ASIA and people pissed.

Sure the 20 guys that made the OBAMA-CHIP are missing, but only the CIA cares about them,

Then there are 150 Chinese tourists missing, and they all have family, and family is a big deal here in Asia.

I know in the west family don't mean shit.

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That would be a good narrative in the west that there was no plane, and you could pull it off because the western hairlip will buy anything sold, but over here in ASIA its on the news and they're saying "CIA TALEBAN" stole it, ...

What's the best way for MSM/CNN-CNBC to handle the plane story? Talk about UKRAINE,... or maybe bieber, or Miley Cyrus and the new tattoo on her Johnson.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 05:04 | 4557625 medium giraffe
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The UK Government might not recognise the Ukraine referendum, but the UK PEOPLE will.  So fuck you.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 05:16 | 4557635 dreadnaught
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WTF hell is wrong with the US/EU?!?!?! Crimea is totaly Ethnic Russian-is it any surprise that they voted 95% to join Russia?.....some people in the US  Congress are delusional....including Barky

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 05:37 | 4557648 bk1037
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Youra a dumb ass. You're going to tell me people are going to vote courageously against Putin when his military has invaded. Russians would have won probably, but 96$ support. Think about it you dumb ass.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 05:38 | 4557649 zionhead
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99% of ameriKKKan's are not ZIO-CON's, but if ZIO-CON's bark the 99% in the USA jump,

Certainly ZIO-CON can expect the same from Europe or Ukraine?

If the ZIO-MSM say's 1+1=7, then 99% of ameriKKKan's will when tested respond as such, its called the ameriKKKan Way.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 05:36 | 4557646 zionhead
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Rothschild Obama-Chip Obama-Care tracking Device Patents

Would the Trillionaires steal/down an airplane with CIA assets to control the SKYNET chip to be implanted in every human on earth?

Four days after flight MH370 goes missing, a patent is approved. 4 of the 5 Patent holders are Chinese employees of Freescale Semiconductor of Austin TX. The fifth is the company itself. Each patent is divided into 20% increments to the 5 holders -

Peidong Wang, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Zhijun Chen, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Zhihong Cheng, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Li Ying, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Freescale Semiconductor (20%)

If a patent holder dies, the remaining holders equally share the dividends of the deceased so long as it’s not disputed in a will. If 4 of the 5 Patent holders die, then the remaining Patent holder gets 100% of the wealth of the patent. That remaining Patent holder is Freescale Semiconductor. Who owns Freescale Semiconductor? Answer – Jacob Rothschild! NOW HOW ABOUT THAT! He owns it through Blackstone who themselves own Freescale. Here’s your motive for the missing Beijing plane – all 4 Chinese Patent members were passengers on the missing plane.

Patent holders can alter the proceeds legally by passing wealth to their heirs. However, they can only do that when the Patent is approved. (For me this is just another daft rule. It simply enables evil-minded scum the opportunity to commit skulduggery). So when the plane went missing, the patent had not been approved. As soon as the plane went missing, in other words ‘operation successful’ the Patent is approved & thank you very much! Mr. Rothschild once again gets the lot – 100% Patent holder, that is once the other 4 Patent holders are declared deceased. What a lovely world we live in! Blatant as you like!

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“Freescale Semiconductor Employees Confirmed Passengers on Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370: Austin, Texas (Business Wire) Mar. 8, 2014: Freescale Semiconductor has confirmed that 20 of its employees were confirmed passengers on Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. Twelve are from Malaysia and eight are from China. The entire Freescale Semiconductor community is deeply saddened by this news. The company is continuing to monitor the situation and will provide more information as it becomes available.”

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 06:07 | 4557661 Rogue Economist
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Latest Frostbite Falls Daily Rant on the Crimea Referendum.

RE

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 06:52 | 4557694 luckylongshot
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So America tells the EU to get fucked and the guy that gets to do it is called Put in....!

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 09:11 | 4557991 StupidEarthlings
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So..can Connecticut vote to join Russia? ..

Just a totally hypothetical question. ..

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 19:33 | 4561113 Runs-With_Toast
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NO. The average IQ is not high enough

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 19:31 | 4561092 Runs-With_Toast
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You know, Fuk I hate the school bully attitude. Whats astounding is the USA is a fat out of condition bully. Why do Americans seem to fall for this  "Ooh-rah!" patriotic shit so heavily? Is it the flouride? The trash diet? Then once again I will meet an American I like which confounds me. Are they mostly good people caught up in some MSM mind control nightmare? Or is the USA called Rome II lost on arrogance and power, leveraged to the max on credit FFS. They will fall like Rome, but on a compressed time frame due to the massive compounding and growing debt and exponential world USA loathing index. It will be ugly

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