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Russia-Ukraine Agree "Truce" Until March 21st; White House Warns Putin Stop Playing "Russian Roulette"

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"President Putin has started a game of Russian roulette and I think the United States and the West have to be very clear in their response," states Sen. Foreign Relations Committed Chair Robert Menendez among a slew of Sunday morning talk-show rhetoric from US politicians with the White House's Dan Pfeiffer adding "President Putin has a choice about what he's going to do here. Is he going to continue to further isolate himself, further hurt his economy, further diminish Russian influence in the world, or is he going to do the right thing?" As the "sham referendum" continues, Reuters, however, reports that Ukraine's acting defense minister believes Russia and Ukraine have agree a truce until March 21st.


Sunday Morning Talk-Show Rhetoric... (via AP)

If Russian President Vladimir Putin doesn't back down in Crimea, he will face penalties from the West that will hurt the Russian economy and diminish Moscow's influence in the world, the White House said Sunday.


White House senior adviser Dan Pfeiffer said the Obama administration's top priority is supporting the new Ukrainian government "in every way possible." He also said the United States would not recognize the results of a referendum taking place in Crimea Sunday on whether it should become part of Russia.


Pfeiffer said everything that Russia has done in Crimea has been a violation of international law and bad for stability in the region.


"President Putin has a choice about what he's going to do here. Is he going to continue to further isolate himself, further hurt his economy, further diminish Russian influence in the world, or is he going to do the right thing?" Pfeiffer said on NBC's "Meet the Press."




"President Putin has started a game of Russian roulette and I think the United States and the West have to be very clear in their response because he will calculate about how far he can go," said Sen. Robert Menendez, the Democratic chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.


Menendez appeared on Fox News Sunday along with the ranking Republican on the Foreign Relations Committee, Sen. Bob Corker of Tennessee. Corker said the U.S. and Europe were entering a "defining moment" in their relationship with Russia.


"Putin will continue to do this. He did it in Georgia a few years ago. He's moved into Crimea and he will move into other places unless we show that long-term resolve."


Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut returned early Sunday from meetings in Ukraine. He called an annexation vote taking place in Crimea a "sham referendum." He said that Ukrainians he talked to, both inside the government and outside, said war could occur if Russia attempts to annex more territory. They indicated that "If Russia really does decide to move beyond Crimea it's going to be bloody and the fight may be long," he said on ABC's "This Week."

But it appears truce has been reached for now...

The defense ministries of Ukraine and Russia have agreed on a truce in Crimea until March 21, Ukraine's acting defense minister said on Sunday.


"An agreement has been reached with (Russia's) Black Sea Fleet and the Russian Defense Ministry on a truce in Crimea until March 21," Ihor Tenyukh told journalists on the sidelines of a cabinet meeting.


"No measures will be taken against our military facilities in Crimea during that time. Our military sites are therefore proceeding with a replenishment of reserves."

As Ukrainian armed forces appear resigned to the loss:




No confirmation as yet from the Russian authorities... which, it would appear, merely gives Putin more time to arrange his military pieces since for sure he shows no signs of backing down... as the tanks keep rolling



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Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:10 | 4554955 Winston Churchill
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Thought you needed to be fighting before declaring a truce.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:20 | 4554987 gmrpeabody
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Putin best not piss Obama off..

Oh..., wait.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:25 | 4555010 Cap Matifou
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One of the many things Putin can do, but not Obama:
Vladimir Putin visits the central depository of Russia’s Central Bank, which holds two-thirds of the country’s gold and foreign exchange reserves

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:26 | 4555014 flacon
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So stock market will have a HUGE up day tomorrow.... sigh...

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:34 | 4555042 disabledvet
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that is possible actually.
Clearly this Putin Full Retard into Ukraine does NOT have the support of the Red Army...which has only been able to rebuild itself thanks to...of all peoples...the Americans.
And we've sacrificed an entire American Generation to do that I might add.

And now we have problems with Command and Control in Russia?

No boots on the Ground?
BULLSHIT. This is "Crazy Colonel" and the USA has no choice BUT to go in.
ALL in actually.

In other words...the AMERICANS are gonna have to occupy and run that "Ukraine thing" now.

Say hello to the Free Shit Army phuckers.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:42 | 4555068 SilverIsKing
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Was there really a truce or is this the US gov saying that so if and when Russia moves, the world will believe that they've broken a truce?

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:59 | 4555146 AlaricBalth
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White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer said everything that Russia has done in Crimea has been a violation of international law and bad for stability in the region.

When accusing another nation of international law violations your accusation would have greater impact if you were standing on moral high ground. The list of US violations is long and sordid, the most egregious being the slaughter of innocent civilians, including children via drone strikes.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:23 | 4555225 knukles
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... he said before he flew off on a campaign contributor and bundler's private jet for another taxpayer paid junket to bugger young boys in the Caribbean...

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:53 | 4555372 Manthong
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I can think of certain "leaders" in the west that should get the first 6 trys.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 16:21 | 4555958 Ifigenia
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is refreshing to know what Vitoria Nullan did in Kiev.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 03:51 | 4557564 Cap Matifou
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>Was there really a truce or is this the US gov saying that so if and when Russia moves, the world will believe that they've broken a truce?

In wag-the-dog world with armies of MSM presstitutes it doesn't really matter. They only fear the illusion of "peoples' opinion" shatters by irresponsible vote, like in this German paper:

"Only a puny four percent, and we know who those are, favoured a military intervention by NATO forces. Whereas a staggering seventy eight percent believed that Western  hacks like Kerry or Merkel were mere hypocrites and that Russia defended indeed legitimate interests."

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:45 | 4555079 ThirdWorldDude
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I honestly hope you and McStain will get to lead the charge. 

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:46 | 4555084 smlbizman
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we've put our best man on it....menendez the peodophile,...

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:06 | 4555166 Bastiat
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"RussianRoulette??"   What a moron.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:25 | 4555230 BlindMonkey
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You sir are off your meds.   Russians just brought down a drone without firing a shot.  Their SAM capability is the best in the world as well as their anti ship missiles.  How exactly are you suggesting that the U.S. can take control of the Ukraine against them?  Never mind actually.  I have determined that I am not interested in the ramblings of a fool on this matter.  

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:42 | 4555318 Spumoni
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Interesting thread...but it might also be that Washington is saying, "Hey wait a fuckin' did we get into this shit? State said there was low probability of a Russian military response! WTF!"

I can't help but wonder whether Diem is reincarnated and back to suck us into yet another blood-sucking bullshit war. Smells just like how we got into 'Nam, Iraq and Afghafartistan. Fire the idiots running State, maybe we can stay outta stupid things like this. Of course, what else can Wall St. do with all that money besides start a war? They can't build an economy on retired folks, and the last three have so screwed up the boys and girls they sent into harm's way that they aren't spending money....and have no jobs to earn it anyhow.

If someone had hired a gang of thugs to destroy the USA, they couldn't have done a better job than the crowd that's been in DC for the last 12 years.

Nationwide strike! Nobody drive, nobody show for work. No taxation without representation!

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 15:30 | 4555788 Perfecthedge
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I like your style Sir! Go on.  The country needs more people speaking out.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 14:43 | 4555612 Ifigenia
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dont force people to fight wall street to defend what is left of US democracy

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:32 | 4555032 Soul Glow
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Because the Fed has no gold.  JPM sold it all to....well, probably Russia.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:35 | 4555046 johngaltfla
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Russian Roulette with Vodka is one hell of a lot more fun than golf with 80 Presidential Mulligans. Stupid President, no children are allowed to play in Russia. I thought he was one of America's most intellgent Presidents?

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:49 | 4555099 Snidley Whipsnae
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Paul Craig Roberts, ex US Treasury Secretary, gives an extensive interview/overview containing his observations on what the US is attempting to accomplish in the Ukraine and what Putin will probably do to counter the US/NATO/EU moves... about 53 minute video titled "US definitely wants war in Ukraine"...

This video contains geo-political and economic aspects of actions being taken in the Ukraine by most of the countries involved.

This video could have been titled "the neo-cons won't be happy until the whole damn world is vaporized"... imo

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:32 | 4555270 Spumoni
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Better yet, Putin can foment a putsch in, say, Honduras, and ask Washington what the difference is...


and to quote our state department, "Fuck the EU...:)!

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:56 | 4555386 Kirk2NCC1701
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Obama plays Roullette with Blanks.  Putin does not.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:30 | 4555026 Soul Glow
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Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:57 | 4555392 Kirk2NCC1701
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On July 14 we get to celebrate 100 years since the start of WW1

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 14:02 | 4555411 Kirk2NCC1701
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On July 28 we get to celebrate 100 years since the start of WW1.

June 28 was the "Trigger" event, with the shooting of Arch-Duke Ferdinand in Sarajevo.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 15:11 | 4555726 tony wilson
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donte push me i am warning you.

do not push me i am telling you

listen donte do it again ok

listen to me do not push me again ok


listen ok

do not do

ok do not do it again


ok this is it now godamit

push me again vlad and i promise it will be the first straw.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 16:58 | 4556057 Seer
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Obama's Cartman?

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:11 | 4554956 TahoeBilly2012
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People who think our Government is only naive or desperate are missing the bigger picture. Powers behind the US want One World Order and an entire new "face" to the world.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:12 | 4554963 Winston Churchill
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The best laid plans on mice and men......

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:26 | 4555016 slightlyskeptical
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I want that too. I just want an entirely different face than the PTB want.

Give everyone full employment at decent wages, inivdual liberties and a financial system that keeps prices in check and I would be in support of whatever it took to get there. Since that does not seem to be the plan, it needs to fail.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:50 | 4555364 Greenskeeper_Carl
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I'm surprised this got so many up votes. You want this one world govt to "give everyone full employment and decent wages"? Yet you also want individual liberties and a financial system that keeps prices in check? How would this govt "give" anyone anything with out first taking it from others? So you want a smiley-er redistributionist one world govt that "respects individual liberties"? You can't have both of those things at the same time, my friend. Stealing money/property from one citizen to give others decent wages and full employment is the very opposite of respecting individual liberties. And a financial system that tries to manage prices is exactly what we have now, and it is failing just like every other financial system that attempts to control prices. You sound incredibly naive, like some starry eyed college freshman trying to 'occupy' the campus quad or something.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 14:05 | 4555428 SofaPapa
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Let's hear it for Greenskeepers.  This is exactly what so many people seem incapable of understanding.  Freedom includes that many people fail.  Not everyone is a success, much as modern child-rearing methods might disagree.  In a just world, it is no one's role to "give" anyone a job.  A job is a transaction where there is work that needs doing, and a person who is capable of doing it efficiently produces net wealth, from which he then benefits.  There are no "jobs" in the sense that word continues to be thrown around.  When are people going to learn that government interference (ALL interference, 'positive' or 'negative') can do nothing but distort the reality that work must in the end be about production.  Redistribution of wealth is by definition non-productive.  We are a long long way from understanding that in this country, and seemingly getting no closer, at least based on the MSM narrative.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 14:47 | 4555630 Quus Ant
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Friends- and I say friends because honestly we are all on the same side here regardless of ideology-

I have to respectfully disagree with both of you.  Skeptical and Papa.  You are both advocating/defending

systems that never were and never will be.  Skeptical seems to advocate a feudal system that guarantees

livelihood while incorporating its antithesis- individual liberty.  And Papa- the economy would not exist

without government interference.  How much of GDP is government spending?

As private industry moves closer to what you want Papa- shedding all the extraneous players at the

bottom of the pyramid (while vacuuming all the cash to the top btw) the government MUST step into

the breach.  If it doesn't you will have revolution and Skeptical's dreams will come true- kind of.


So we're kind of stuck right now until you two hash this out, because something new is coming. 

I don't know what it is, but it's coming. The whole idea of "work" is anachronistic.  We overproduce.

Deficiencies must be invented so markets will still exist.

Waiting on the new..... waiting on the new...... 

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 15:39 | 4555821 trader1
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someone who gets it.  

what would you like to see in the future?

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 17:11 | 4556109 Seer
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"what would you like to see in the future?"

I never ask of the future.  I can only say what it's going to be like... most probably don't want to know (because it's not to their liking- well, ain't necessarily to my liking either, but life is about adjusting, that or dying).

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 17:30 | 4557493 trader1
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certainly, there are probable outcomes ranging from the extinction of our human race to us colonizing other another planet(s) as our next evolutionary step...

what do you see as most likely given current trajectories and how do you think we could alter that trajectory to the "better" outcome, i.e the one where the human race doesn't die or makes an evolutionary leap shedding the self-destructive habits?


Sun, 03/16/2014 - 22:36 | 4556450 Quus Ant
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Wow, trader.  Big question. 

The problem I find is that even though I rail against all systems/illusions they are none the less a part of me. 

The fact that I fight them gives them validity and solidity.  My hope is with my son.  That he would be freer than I,

and his child even more so.  And would the world that seems ready to burst at the seams see fit

to give humans a little more time to discover themselves.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 17:08 | 4556093 Seer
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Sigh.... all are viewing this using data sets that will no longer exist in the future.

ALL governing entitties, be they monolithic NWO or be they small-ish tribal ones, all have to face a world in which there are more of us AND there is less to support us.

I have never pretended to know or have suggest a "solution," as attractive as many theories might be, but I DO know what the REAL problem is.  And until we can address the issue of perpetuating the myth that there can be perpetual growth on a finite planet we'll but be continuing to point fingers, blame, and otherwise bash one-another over the head (of drone them).  It's a stark reality, either increase the world's resources (knowing they are finite and with every scoop full we extract we diminish that which is available for the future containing yet more people), or reduce the number of people.  By default, however, it is a certainty that Mother Nature will "resove" this for us...

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 19:05 | 4556506 Spumoni
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Well, we will never have a one-world government, for one reason. Tribalism. Okay, two reasons: racism. These days, the tribes are political. The races are all afraid of each other, despite having virtually identical anatomies, intelligence, attitudes and aspirations. As long as there are political boundaries, there will be those who will fight and die for "their country." It used to be valid, I guess, as assumptions go. But what happened when we built the 'global village?' We technically abolished the political boundaries. And we did it before establishing a level playing field, so big money is having a field day with every kind of arbitrage you can imagine. Since it's all about money, nobody gives a crap about the people who actually earn and spend it. Because, as the myth says, money managers are fate-bound to kill the goose that lays the golden egg. 

Resources are finite, and getting finit-er every day. The solution is to quit squabbling over bullshit and get on with empowering the phenomenon known as the human mind (accomplished through education, a living wage, and an infrastructure that doesn't reward greed). Once we find a way off this beaten-up old rock, we can expand our horizons, and if Tony doesn't like the Jews on his planet, he can emigrate. 

We are charged to find solutions, and that is the ingredient lacking in the current stew. My suggestion is Elon Musk on a ticket with Richard Branson. Fuck the Pentagon, the politicians we have, and every stinking idiot bankster on this planet. The first space ship is for them.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 02:31 | 4557500 trader1
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one world government is quite possible, with several ways of getting there.  how to get people to come along for that ride is the challenge, and that faction is not ready to give up anytime soon.  look to the EU/UN as one aspirational model.  there are even other models where autonomy could be distributed to self-governing entities whereby those entities have all the required basics to sustain basic sustenance independently.

ridding oneself of the narrow-minded religious myths that shape consciousness and interactions with one another will be a necessary step towards freedom from the prison many currently see themselves in.  

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:30 | 4555027 Seer
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It's about the map for continued control.  Fairly well enunciated by Zbignew decades ago...

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:47 | 4555091 TahoeBilly2012
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Yes but what is at the end of the coninued control? How about a global slave ship run out of Jerusalum?

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 17:16 | 4556129 Seer
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It never stops.

And, the target is never acquired.  Things are WAY too dynamic.

You see, to them it's not the destination but the journey, the journey of staying in control (and doing so doesn't necessarily mean you have to have your arms wrapped around something- Edward Bernays provides for a bit of insight here).

If it weren't the Jews (assuming that it is now) then it would be some other group(ing).  I will guarantee that the commonality will/would be a lust for POWER.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 19:11 | 4556531 Spumoni
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Soooo many power brokers are not Jews - and the fools whipping up that sentiment on this site are so blind to fact that their cynicism is worthless. If you can't even recognize who your enemy truly is, you have no hope of a good outcome for yourself.

Get over the racism, you fucking foolish idiots. You are pawns, and you don't have the intelligence to see how you got snookered. Hate to break it to you, but no constellation of ANY of Abraham's children can carry a conspiracy - they are prone to argument and hate (just like the rest of us).

All that good rebellious energy drains away in a pipe made by uninformed, misinformed, ignorant, deliberately stupid and hateful shitheads. Jesus would throw you all into the gates of hell.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:23 | 4555224 Snidley Whipsnae
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...and Halford Mackinder long before Zbigs time.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 14:22 | 4555510 fauxhammer
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Zbiggy played guitar

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:35 | 4555274 socalbeach
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Tell me what's wrong with this scenario:  Powers behind the US think they can have a limited nuclear war with Russia that would severly cripple both of them, setting the stage for the world government.  It could work like this - initially conventional warfare that would escalate to tactical nuclear weapons being used. That conflict would escalate further to nuclear attacks on major cities in the US and Russia. The conflict would be stopped by the US shadow government after Russia gets a few last attacks in.  Sounds crazy I know.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:12 | 4554958 BlueStreet
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Should also give enough time for the S&P to reach the February low.  Pull up your shorts boys, drop to the ground and give Putin 20 good ones.  

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:18 | 4554960 lolmao500
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In other Ukrainian news...

Ukraine declares national guard call-up, warns pro-Russia separatists (Reuters)



Russia: U.S. and Russia agree to settle crisis by reforming Ukraine's constitution (Reuters)


While in Korea...

Yonhap: fired 25 short-range missiles toward East Sea late Sunday, according to military.

Russia towed artillery position in Armyansk...

And on Iran...

Iran pursuing banned items for nuclear, missile work: U.S. official

And Putin is a funny guy...

Exactly 70 years ago, on 16 March 1944, the Soviet Army started the operation to release Crimea from Nazi Germans

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:11 | 4554961 Son of Captain Nemo
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"President Putin has started a game of Russian roulette"...


Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:28 | 4555021 Whoa Dammit
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And words that are a little bit non-PC, ironically coming from our Diversity adminstration. 

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:44 | 4555076 Pure Evil
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The only problem with this scenario is that NATO currently holds the revolver to its head and is cocking it to the next chamber which currently holds a live round.

Good luck with this European boys and girls cause if WW3 manages to start on Obama's watch I sure hope you don't expect him to give back his Nobel Peace Prize.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:54 | 4555124 Son of Captain Nemo
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My response to that below.

I certainly can't speak for the Christian/Zionists in the ranks that believe the last battle will be for the "tribe", but while I know how deranged and lethal they may be the ones that have the finger on the only trigger that matters ain't gonna let the likes of this do the unthinkable for the rest of us.

Not gonna be conventional in that part of the World that's for shit sure!

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 15:06 | 4555705 Urban Redneck
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It take a special kind of stupid to play Russian roulette when Vlad is handing you a loaded Grach...

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:16 | 4554974 jtz5
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Damn...never thought of the "extend and pretend" plan.  It works for the debt ceiling and everything else, should have seen that coming for the Ukraine/Russia conflict.  Unfrickinbelievable.  S&P to be up 30 pts on the "news," I'm sure.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:15 | 4554975 Cangaroo.TNT
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Executive summary version:

  • "Russia-Ukraine Agree "Truce" Until March 21st... which, it would appear, merely gives Putin more time to arrange his military pieces...."
Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:29 | 4555023 Son of Captain Nemo
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Wouldn't want to be John Breath on Syria chemical weapons attack Round #2, or for that matter Lady Lyndsey Graham as the “town crier” for a nuclear detonation somewhere in Europe or the U.S. to kick start a major war as the economy teeters on the edge of oblivion!

At this stage these guys are dancing on the head of a pin and the best news is they've already been caught too many times to count.  At the end of the day for these lizards it's about self-preservation and crawling back under a rock when you know you've "overplayed your hand"...

If they miscalculate with the next big one we might see the Americans finally taking matters into their own hands for a change or at least the ones past and present in uniform.

I'm starting to feel good about those odds!

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:58 | 4555141 NemoDeNovo
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If they miscalculate with the next big one we might see the Americans finally taking matters into their own hands for a change or at least the ones past and present in uniform.


Stop by your local WallyMart, hang ot for a few hours and then [re]visit that thought.  Alos my last several trips to the VA have me convinced that maybe .01% of those of us that have served are in any way ready to handle shit, but our awakening should be to the FACT that tptb have done quite a good job "fattening" up the lambs for slaughter.  Not saying that we will not win in the end, but it damn sure is not going to be easy.  Just my 2c.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:14 | 4555190 Son of Captain Nemo
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Trust me I absolutely concur that it's still a wild card and that the majority of this Country is "out to lunch".  But I'm convinced the only way President Remus and his handlers are going to get a major war underway with the likes of Russia is through a false flag event and after 13 years of where we've already been it would have to be spectacular.

While I don't have faith in the "majority" in this Country doing the right thing, the most important ones like the framers 240 years before us that did all of the work we haven't seen emerge yet have the rest of the world's back because they know the next one won't have a pedestal for 1st and 2nd place.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:17 | 4554979 Return of 20-20
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The US and the west can't and won't do anything meaningfull.  So far we hae managed to realign the Chinese and the Russians.  Nice reset.


An odd coincidence that Malaysian flight went missing now.  Just sayin

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:34 | 4555043 Seer
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"The US and the west can't and won't do anything meaningfull."

Depends on the perspective, no?

Further, the US ought NOT be meddling in the affairs of other nations.  There should never be a measure applied to "meaningful" or other, it should not be up for measure!

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:21 | 4554992 Soul Glow
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Truce for a week?  What'll they do?  Take a vacation?

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:22 | 4554998 sushi
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Have to think of this from a G77 perspective.

Do we build relations with US driven G7 that shows a great willingness to spend billions to undermine an elected government in order to elect thier own puppets regardless if those puppets are neo-nazis or al-queda?

Or do we build relations with a group of nations who do not interfere in our domestic politics?

Do we build relationships with a euro-block exhibit slack market demand for the next 20 years or do we build relationships with emerging economies developing significant new consumer markets?

Do we continue to support US hegemony and the use of a dollar backed by little more than hope? Or do we seek to forge a set of relationships in which we have a true partnership in organizations with functions similar to the IMF?


Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:32 | 4555033 slightlyskeptical
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Looks like there is no choice at all when put that way.  Unless we see WWIII then i would say it is game over for the NWO. If they had just seen things my way they would have had a chance.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:36 | 4555051 Seer
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"Do we build relations with US driven G7 that shows a great willingness to spend billions to undermine an elected government in order to elect thier own puppets regardless if those puppets are neo-nazis or al-queda?"

Hey, that sounds like a lot of fun! </sarc>

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:52 | 4555115 Omen IV
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depends on who "we" is?

if it's not the Bankers or MIC the answer is easy - but it is their agenda we are playing out - hopefully Putin is working for "our" objectives and not theirs



Mon, 03/17/2014 - 02:36 | 4557516 trader1
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i like the fact that you are asking questions and trying to think of solutions to the problem.  

but, don't just think of "you".  think bigger, like seeing everything from the perspective of eternity. (h/t spinoza)


Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:24 | 4555005 shermacman
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"Russia has started a game of Russian Roulette"
Menendez is an idiot. What does that even mean? Pootie-Poot isn't playing roulette, he isn't pointing a gun at his own head, he isn't even pointing it at Western Europe. The EU is gutless and only cares about their supply of GazProm. Putin is pointing it at Present Øbama. And BathHouseBarry is currently dumbfounded at the sales technology at the Gap.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:36 | 4555048 SpanishGoop
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It is not really a game of Russian roulette if you know you are going to win.


Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:38 | 4555056 Seer
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Aside from misidentifying who in the US actually has say in the matter, and aside from the childish name-calling, yeah, you're 100% right.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:24 | 4555006 wmbz
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Boy the hot air is really pumping out of the D.C. cesspool.

This cast of clown ass wipes can't do a damn thing about what is going to happen over there. The die is cast.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:41 | 4555066 Seer
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Makes one long for the good old days in which the US would just steamroll over their "opponents," opponents like Grenada ("Operation Urgent Fury" you just can't make this shit up).

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:28 | 4555018 Dr. Engali
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Who in the fuck are these mass murdering people to chastise Putin for breaking international law? They invade any country they wish, and if they don't want to invade they drone the shit out of them. Fucking hypocrites, every one of them. I despise them all.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:52 | 4555114 Pure Evil
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Obama was too busy in the bathhouse or on the golf course to attend the Sunday Morning lying whore circuit, so he sent in the Puerto Rico pedophile from New Jersey with the hopes of showing the Russians how US Senate sexual deviants can dribble lickspittle on national networks.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:32 | 4555034 Graph
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Mr Putin stop that or we'll start calling you...let's see...  ....yes! A Hitler!

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:32 | 4555035 One And Only
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Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:35 | 4555047 Fix It Again Timmy
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Who now listens to the dweebs and dunces that make up Congress, except maybe to get a chuckle or two out of their blowhard blabberings?...

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:44 | 4555073 Seer
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And, really, when did Congress, TPTB's lawyers, ever have anything meaningful to listen to?

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:40 | 4555059 nelsonmandella
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one day truce 

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:40 | 4555060 nelsonmandella
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one day truce 

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:42 | 4555067 sudzee
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Ukraine is agood sideshow while In Syria, Assad is kicking western ass, with the help of Russia, China, Iran and now Turkey.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:19 | 4555208 adonisdemilo
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Usually the bullies pick on whomever they think they can whup.

You would have thought that because they can't whup Syria they would pick on somebody smaller, but no, the idiots had a go at Russia. How stupid can they be?

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:56 | 4555136 moneybots
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Sunday morning talk-show rhetoric from US politicians with the White House's Dan Pfeiffer adding "President Putin has a choice about what he's going to do here."


Putin has already made his choice.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:47 | 4555347 BlindMonkey
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These talking heads have been confused by Barry for so long they do t know what a REAL red line looks like when one is drawn.  

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:51 | 4555362 SilverRhino
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He's going for Odessa.   

Personal anecdote:  EX wife (Russian) has ethnically Russian friends from the Ukraine with family in Odessa.   They (Russians in Odessa) cant WAIT for Putin to get there as they have already been repeatedly threatened with their lives by ethnic Ukrainians.   

If Putin doesn't take East Ukraine then you can expect a LOT of ethnic cleansing on the shores of the Black Sea as ethnic Ukranians begin to drive ethnic Russians OUT of the area.   

Which also makes a perfectly legitimate excuse for 'Preacekeepers' to be bright in from either side.   Will Russia stand for UN / NATO troops in Odessa with full combined arms capabilities there?   Doubt it. 

So we're gonna see Putin take the rest of East Ukraine.   (Think I called that a while back actually; we'll see how it goes.)  


Sun, 03/16/2014 - 14:54 | 4555654 Debugas
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at this point nobody really knows (i think including Putin himself)

My bet is Putin gonna wait and see how new Kiev authorities manage the situation and only if it gets out of control (if nazi style cleansing begins) then all bets are off (including WW3)

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 12:59 | 4555143 22winmag
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It's a good thing buttheads like Memendez and the rest of CONgress have little real power, or else we'd be cooked already.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:10 | 4555182 adonisdemilo
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I don't know what Putin is going to do either, but I do know what he isn't going to do.


Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:11 | 4555186 geno-econ
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Sen. Chris Murphy meant Slam Dunk referendum. Meanwhile, Kiev coup government still has not been elected by people of Ukraine. Also for the record, Cris Murphy is half Irish extraction and half Polish which does not exactly make him an impartial observer, especially since he is new Senator with no foreign policy experience and was elected with a poor history of mortgage default and financial problems----just like the Ukraine. You can't make this stuff up. And then there is Victoria Nuland who conducts circumcised foriegn policy against the EU. Great material for late night shows but makes US look stupid in eyes of world.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:24 | 4555212 Pure Evil
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"makes US look stupid in eyes of world"


That ship disembarked back in 2000, then made a return voyage back out again in 2008.....

Oh, that's right, 2008?, isn't that when all of Europe loved Obama?

So how do they like their Nobel Peace Prize wining bathhouse executive now?

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:13 | 4555191 ShrNfr
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Don't worry, they are sending Joe Biden to eastern Europe. If he chains himself to something in the Crimea, there is no way that Russia would want the Crimea because Joe would go with it.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:22 | 4555203 ArrestBobRubin
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Hey Jew's Monkey Menendez: here's a rifle, some ammo, and a one-way ticket to Ukraine. Be sure to bring fellow Treason Chimps John McCain, Peter King, Lindsay Graham, and your kids.

Bon Voyage!


Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:39 | 4555307 stant
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no , only give them a stripper clip of 7.62by 54 and tell them to get a rifle on the battlefield

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:21 | 4555216 Infinite QE
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What's Obama gonna do, send Reggie after Putin? LOL.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:24 | 4555227 rsnoble
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Oh great 5 more days of new stock market highs.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:29 | 4555247 ebworthen
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Special Olympics wrap up today I believe.

Once the Crimean vote is confirmed tomorrow something might happen.

Corned beef, cabbage, some beer, and watching Christiane Amanpour having a fit then brought to tears about Russia on CNN; that would be an entertaining St. Patrick's Day.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:44 | 4555328 geno-econ
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Nuland's St Patricks Day delight will be to have the EU corned, but she will have gefilta fish with a shmear of ketchup. Poor Kagen having to sit home alone while his wife is out screwing the world.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 14:09 | 4555443 no1wonder
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Meanwhile, in Russia they decided that oral sex is an art and Russian men deserve to be blessed with it by their ladies :)

Russia: School for mastering “The Art of oral sex”

Men are usually gentleman enough and would never admit to their chosen ones if they are not exactly skilled in providing oral sex. Thankfully, everything can be learned. All interested Moscow ladies who are willing to set aside about 3,500 Russian rubles (about 85 euros/$113) have the unique opportunity to attend a course called “The Art of oral sex”. During the course, they will get three and a half hours of intense training during which they will learn how to use lips and hands to bring their partner to ecstasy that they will never forget.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 14:38 | 4555598 swmnguy
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I'm sorry, I don't understand.  Do you not think this is OK?

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 14:57 | 4555667 Debugas
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this is NWO NGO (Non governmental organizations) sponsored courses

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:48 | 4555352 kurt
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How about this:

Tell Russia to go ahead and take the whole country. It would be a great way to clean up the murdering freaks hired by the CIA  and Israel to disrupt yet another country.  Euthanize the mad dogs.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 13:56 | 4555390 robertocarlos
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"Committed" instead of "Committee", nice.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 14:20 | 4555435 Element
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How about a game of gold, oh, I meant golf, instead?


"... because he will calculate about how far he can go,"

Washington is rattled and looking weak and reactive (though putting on the war paint anyway), and Europe will be very nervous from here on. Europe better choose its words very carefully because in the end the US is on the other side of the Atlantic, and Vlad is running Barter Town. So they are going to have to cooperate with solving the Ukraine problem with Putin's Russia, not with Washington. But I do not think the EU/NATO 'leaders' are willing to face that fact. And clownshoes (et al) in Washington is going to make sure that it's a deeply dysfunctional and impossible relationship.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 14:25 | 4555525 Kirk2NCC1701
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Given that the Western MSM cum LSM (Lame-Stream Media) is deliberately and knowingly avoiding and suppressing the neo-Nazi and anti-Jewish composition and views of the group who committed a Coup, removes ALL legitimacy from any future claims of "anti-Semitism" by said Media or Jewish lobby groups. 

Henceforth, in my books, they (the LSM, ADL, AIPAC) are FUCKING HYPOCRITES and Self-Outed, Two-Faced PHONIES.

The only people more outrageous, disgusting and contemptible, are those (evangelizing) "Christians" who support all this vile behavior and Zio-imperialism/Imperial-Zionism (iZ).  They are truly despicable and Useful Fools/Tools of iZ, for they betray their own kind in the name of "Doing God's work".

p.s. When is NuttyNYahoo's fascist, apartheid regime turning the power back on?

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 14:36 | 4555588 swmnguy
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One aspect of this crisis I've found the most alarming is the way it seems the US State Department has hired writers from North Korea.  See these from Samantha Power:

or this:

I swear, this even sounds like something written for Kim Il-Sung or Kim Jong-Il.  I mean, "Russia has refused Ukraine’s outstretched hand while, as we speak, Russian armed forces are massing across Ukraine’s eastern border. Two days ago, in this very chamber, Ukraine’s prime minister appealed to Russia to embrace peace. Instead, Russia has rejected a resolution that had peace at its heart and law flowing through its veins."  Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot?

The slipperyness of the language isn't hidden by its flowery purpleness.  Both those links are masterpieces of cynical codewords and the lawyerly notion that it's ok to say absolutely anything if you can claim to believe it.  The intellectual dishonesty and contempt for all listeners is the most alarming part. 

Ms. Power is exactly the most dangerous sort of person.  Smart, ambitious, well-educated.  Completely devoted to gaining the approval of a specific set of authorities, utterly ruthless and without compunction.  It's these Ivy Leaguers looking to fill some kind of internal gap who do the most damage.  And this Administration is chock-full of them.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 17:28 | 4556172 Ifigenia
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This is the kind of leader that USA have since Clinton days.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 14:49 | 4555642 Debugas
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this truce is about letting ukranian forces in Crimea to resupply and get ready to leave Crimea

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 15:20 | 4555711 tony wilson
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delays A

clearly some of the brit and israeli teams are still stuck under fire in syria and even when they are extracted they need some chill time in turkey.

the info i have heard is the virginia and london based security teams are having problems filling the cia,mi6,israeli requirements.

it seems some of these merceneries do not want to fight the russki,i wonder why?

clearly prefer getting 3-5000 dollars a day raping iraqi and libyan and syrian woman and kids.

defense companies are now offering big bucks to poles,hungarians and fighters from the czech and slovakia republics.


Sun, 03/16/2014 - 15:18 | 4555743 q99x2
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We will come rejoicing bringin in the thieves.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 15:35 | 4555802 JPMorgan
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The US can piss right off imho.

Those assholes have been picking fights in the way of coops and invading countries on the other side of the global for decades.

So who the hell are they to tell Putin what he can and can't do on his own doorstep.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 15:35 | 4555805 nah
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Sun, 03/16/2014 - 15:38 | 4555817 Ms No
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Mad Max has been postponed... stay tuned

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 16:18 | 4555943 Ifigenia
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"President Putin has started a game of Russian roulette and I think the United States and the West have to be very clear in their response," states Sen. Foreign Relations Committed Chair Robert Menendez"


Menendez you forget to tell us what Vitoria Nullen did in Kiev. Helping to throw out an legitimate government and personally pointing some jews to a new Junta isnt small changes, or are they?

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 17:36 | 4556209 grunk
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Kremlin to White House:

"Cut out the shuck and jive."

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 18:20 | 4556360 robertocarlos
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You don't know how badly Obama wants Rasputin's penis.

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 21:10 | 4556937 Debugas
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from Obama's point of view referendum is indeed a sort of Russian Roulette

Sun, 03/16/2014 - 22:39 | 4557175 RMolineaux
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Menendez has absolutely no credibility as a spokesman in the US Senate since he has clearly made himself into a spokesman for radical Zionism in America.   It is time for the voters of New Jersey to elect a senator who will represent them and not some foreign country.

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