Ron Paul Asks "If Spying On Senate Is So Bad, Why Is It OK For Them To Spy On Us?"

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Submitted by Ron Paul of The Ron Paul Institute,

The reaction of Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) to last week’s revelations that the CIA secretly searched Senate Intelligence Committee computers reveals much about what the elites in government think about the rest of us. “Spy on thee, but not on me!”
The hypocrisy of Sen. Feinstein is astounding. She is the biggest backer of the NSA spying on the rest of us, but when the tables are turned and her staff is the target she becomes irate. But there is more to it than that. There is an attitude in Washington that the laws Congress passes do not apply to Members. They can trample our civil liberties, they believe, but it should never affect their own freedom.
Remember that much of this started when politicians rushed to past the PATRIOT Act after 9/11. Those of us who warned that such new powers granted to the state would be used against us someday were criticized as alarmist and worse. The violations happened just as we warned, but when political leaders discovered the breach of our civil liberties they did nothing about it. It was not until whistleblowers like Edward Snowden and others informed us of the abuses that the “debate” over surveillance that President Obama claimed to welcome could even begin to take place! Left to politicians like Dianne Feinstein, Mike Rogers, and President Obama, we would never have that debate because we would not know.
Washington does not care about our privacy. When serious violations are discovered they most often rush to protect the status quo instead of defending the Constitution. Senator Feinstein did just that as the NSA spying revelations began to create pressure on the Intelligence Community. Her NSA reform legislation was nothing but a smokescreen: under the guise of “reform” it would have codified in law the violations already taking place. When that fact became too obvious to deny, the Senate was forced to let the legislation die in the committee.
What is interesting, and buried in the accusations and denials, is that the alleged CIA monitoring was over an expected 6,000 page Senate Intelligence Committee report on the shameful and un-American recent CIA history of torture at the “gulag archipelago” of secret prisons it set up across the world after the attacks of 9/11. We can understand why the CIA might have been afraid of that information getting out.
When CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou exposed the CIA’s role in torturing prisoners he was sent to prison for nearly three years. But Senator Feinstein and her colleagues didn’t lift a finger to support him. So again you have the double standards and hypocrisy.
The essence of this problem has to do with the difficulty in managing the US empire. When the government behaves as an empire rather than as a republic, lying to the rest of us is permissible. They spy on everybody because they don’t trust anybody. The answer is obvious: rein in the CIA; remove its authority to conduct these kinds of covert actions. Rein in government. Lawmakers should not defend Fourth Amendment rights only when their staffs have been violated. They should do it all the time for all of us. The people’s branch of government must stand up for the people. Let’s hope that Sen. Feinstein has had her wake-up call and will now finally start defending the rest of us against a government that increasingly sees us as the enemy.

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Mon, 03/17/2014 - 21:19 | 4561445 LetThemEatRand
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Love you, Ron.  Tell your asshole son to stop supporting drone warfare and to end the Fed.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 21:21 | 4561448 Newsboy
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I'm glad you finally noticed, Dianne.

Go get 'em, even if it's just for you!

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 21:33 | 4561488 BlackChicken
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Damn hypocrites, all of them.

To think we could have had a decent man like Ron for President, instead we have an ass-hat.

I know he never had a chance at being appointed, but there was hope, and not the kind the current tranny was talking about.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 22:32 | 4561656 Manthong
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Dianne Feinstein wants drones regulated     

 (for you and me of course, NOT the state)

“I’m in my home and there’s a demonstration out front, and I go to peek out the window and there’s a drone facing me,” she recalled.

“When is a drone picture a benefit to society? When does it become stalking? When does it invade privacy? How close to a home can a drone go?” Feinstein said, listing questions she would like to see answered in the complex regulation process.

“I’m in my home and there’s a demonstration out front, and I go to peek out the window and there’s a drone facing me,” she recalled.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 22:48 | 4561698 erg
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Dianne Feinstein is a fat chance.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 23:05 | 4561750 erg
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Entered critterdom with a few meazly millions and is now worth .2 billion or some similarily appalling, grotesque number. Grotesque is a recurring theme with this one.

Husband gets gov contracts. Mr. and Mrs. America...turn them all in. I still think the was half in the bag when she said this, broken as is was. Speaking of bags...

Or hags for that matter. Waspish cunt.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 02:43 | 4562065 Motorhead
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That fucking bitch (along with Pelosi) loved to pass legislation to enrich her husband (and indirectly, her).  Utter slime...too much of that in the halls of the US Congress.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 05:50 | 4562177 Truthseeker2
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CIA: The Rogue Agency Collides with the Corrupt US Senate



"The War Of The Titans Finally Begins"
Mon, 03/17/2014 - 23:22 | 4561794 drendebe10
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Red Fox as Fred Sanford said, "Therr aint nothing uglier than an old white woman."  And there u habe Diane Cuntstein.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 23:32 | 4561822 Tim_
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Dianne Feinstein, born as Dianne Emiel Goldman, is a jew (Source).

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 02:44 | 4562066 Motorhead
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Now, now.  I thought you were going to post that she was REAL Aunt Esther from Sanford & Son.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 07:29 | 4562267 AvoidingTaxation
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Feinstein + Goldman : No intermixing? Just we, low level peons HAVE to intermix?

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 23:31 | 4566396 Tim_
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"Israel" is the most racist place on Earth. "Are you a jew?" "Are you a jew?" That's all you will ever hear there.

Morgan Spurlock, of Super Size Me fame, learns how goys get treated in "Israel" - Video

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 21:31 | 4561480 Robot Traders Mom
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"Tell your asshole son to stop supporting drone warfare"


And Israel, sanctions, et al. Rand is a neocon with a 10 pt higher IQ than Ted Cruz. 

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 21:37 | 4561500 willwork4food
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I totally disagree.He's got at least 11 higher.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 21:39 | 4561503 overmedicatedun...
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look if any crime was committed you can bet Holder's DOJ would be on it like white on rice.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 23:01 | 4561740 Manthong
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I prefer "flies on shit" as a literary device when referring to that slug.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 23:33 | 4561826 Tim_
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The Senate (Including Rand Paul) Vote to Extend $9 Billion in Loan Guarantees for the Benefit of Israel

"Have you heard about the the 'United States-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act of 2012'? It was introduced by Senator Barbara Boxer on 3/6/12 with 71 Cosponsors."

"The U.S. Senate passed their version on Friday June 29, 2012. Known in the Senate as S.2165, the measure guaranteed an astonishing $9 billion dollars in loans to Israel (plus all fees and interest!) in addition to giving 'military assistance- stockpiles of defense articles' valued at $200 million for 2013 and $200 million for 2014."

"Confirming Rand Paul's support of this bill was Senator Johnny Isakson of Georgia, who said 'I am very pleased that this important piece of legislation passed quickly and unanimously in the Senate today, demonstrating the United States' strong, unwavering commitment to Israel and its security and self-defense.'"

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 21:36 | 4561499 Bill of Rights
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Maybe Rand is playing a stragety to get his foot in the door. Agree with them then fuck them...

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 21:45 | 4561517 Dr. Destructo
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Too rosy of a picture for me. Do what I do: Distrust all politicians equally untill their deeds actually outweigh their words.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 09:06 | 4562570 therearetoomany...
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agreed....his position on Putin/Russia is just plain wrong.  

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 09:44 | 4562737 roadhazard
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He must be getting tips from my Sen. and Rep., and not just the current ones.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 22:58 | 4561725 TheReplacement
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I don't think it is accurate to call what goes on today drone "warfare".  All things considered, who in politics today would you support if not the son of Ron?  I suppose you aren't going to run yourself so who else is there?

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 09:24 | 4562652 pods
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I think you answered your own questions. Some of us have moved past thinking this system is suitable for liberty.


Mon, 03/17/2014 - 21:22 | 4561449 firstdivision
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OT: get your Au and Ag orders in, shits on fire sale tonight.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 21:40 | 4561507 thamnosma
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What the heck is going on with gold today and tonight.  Sure seems the boyz are working feverishly.  Maybe they are dumping the Ukrainian gold.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 21:22 | 4561450 vmromk
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Hey Fuckstein, go FUCK yourself.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 21:34 | 4561492 BlackChicken
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She already has, when she sold her soul to Satan.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 21:40 | 4561506 willwork4food
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That piece of lying, self-serving, hypocritical piece of dogshit gives dogshit a bad name.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 01:15 | 4561973 zhandax
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How does she keep getting elected?  Did the corpses in Chicago register as dual citizens?

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 03:19 | 4562085 BlackChicken
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Man, miss seeing your comments here. Hope to see more.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 21:46 | 4561524 Dr. Destructo
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She had a soul? I don't believe that for a second.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 23:00 | 4561739 TheReplacement
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You didn't get the memo?  You can't talk about souls and Satan because that implies there is a God.  It upsets the if-we-just-elected-the-right-guy crowd.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 00:45 | 4561946 Poor Grogman
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That same crowd is quite effective in remaking the world in mans image.

Pathetically short term decisions coupled with a good helping of greed, and topped off with blaming the inevitable failure on everything and everyone else. ( including weather).

What a mess..

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 22:50 | 4561701 Dollarmedes
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No turnaround is in the offing for DiFi. She's upset that she didn't get her "exemption," just like the unions. She will respond just like the unions have.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 21:23 | 4561454 USA USA
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Mon, 03/17/2014 - 21:27 | 4561464 zionhead
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A long time ago somebody asked "Why should US senators and US congressman get better medical insurance than the little people"

The answer of course was that "Some pigs are more equal than others".

I wish our "AIPAC" leaders , would just do away with WASH-DC, then we could just watch TV and see Tel-Aviv 24/7 like Truman-Show.


All politicians KNOW they are being spied on, and they're all spying on each other, the situation here is that US senate was trying to spy on the CIA, and the CIA was spying on the Senate Spy's. The outrage here is that NSA/CIA has a 'monopoly' on SPYING, and the US Senate doesn't see it that way.

For mortals on earth, its best to just stay back and watch at a distance.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 22:01 | 4561566 Bollixed
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"For mortals on earth, its best to just stay back and watch at a distance."

Bullshit. That's how we got into this mess in the first place. Better we start showing some muscle with our voices before we have to start resorting to lead and ropes.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 22:11 | 4561600 ThroxxOfVron
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"Better we start showing some muscle with our voices before we have to start resorting to lead and ropes."


Enough time, money, and lives have already been squandered.

It's already well past lead and rope time dammit.

Feinstein and the rest of the pigs should have been converted into bacon strips years ago.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 22:32 | 4561654 Bollixed
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Point taken. But why did you have to go and ruin bacon for me...

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 00:12 | 4561903 zionhead
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You really don't get it do you? What are you going to do?

The US senate has its own private police force, called the 'capital police' trained snipers, with one mission, to protect SENATOR ASS.


remember navy yard shooting? they were training at the site, they wanted to take the 'shooter' down, they were ordered by command "STAND DOWN", .. why? Because resources, most resources in WASH-DC are only in place to protect POLITICIANS.

Little-People don't mean shit,... and they never have in the USA, even going back to the Civil-War or earlier.


You can't take ameriKKKa back, to what it NEVER WAS? Compeche?

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 21:27 | 4561467 joego1
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Ron Paul is the best preident that we never had.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 21:32 | 4561479 A Lunatic
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That or an impotent, doddering old fool who tried his best but is sadly past his prime.......





(I'm feeling a bit frisky today, bitchez. You know how I really feel about the good doctor)

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 22:14 | 4561605 ThroxxOfVron
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Ineffective and/or controlled and/or faux opposition figures are not true opposition but frauds of the most eggregious and detestable sort.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 22:37 | 4561672 forwardho
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CrazyCat, Your just hopped up on that comment that got 145 upvotes today.

Kudos on the timing and delivery! :)

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 21:28 | 4561470 medium giraffe
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"The people’s branch of government must stand up for the people"

Teddy put a stop to all of that nonsense almost a century ago.  Don't get any ideas.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 21:28 | 4561471 williambanzai7
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Feinstein is an owned bitch.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 21:46 | 4561525 willwork4food
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You just insulted true bitches around the world, William. Shame.

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 21:32 | 4561484 stant
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its cause shits going down in oct. scoped out a taller hill in the knob country last weekend. might not be enough, but its all i got. sucks to be us right now

Mon, 03/17/2014 - 21:33 | 4561486 Berspankme
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Ron, I love you man but Dianne Cuntstain couldn't care less about us peasants. She is a dirty whore who needs to hang from a lamp post

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