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China "Ready To Cooperate" With Crimea
China, having abstained from voting against Russia in the UN, has been relatively quiet during this crisis... until now... As ITAR-TASS reports, spokesperson for China's Ministry of Commerce Shen Danyang said that while "the situation in Ukraine remains tense," and they are watching developments, "we are ready for cooperation with Crimea after the situation there gets back to normal.” This appears to implicitly recognize Crimea as its own region - as opposed to part of Ukraine - even after this morning's "very strict anti-secessio One China policy" comments.
China will develop cooperation with Crimea after the situation in the republic stabilizes, spokesperson for China's Ministry of Commerce Shen Danyang told a news conference on Tuesday.
Commenting on the results of Crimea’s referendum and the future of China’s investment projects, the spokesman said: “The situation in Ukraine remains tense. We are closely following the latest developments.”
“Trade cooperation between China and Ukraine continues to develop as usual,” he said. “However, devaluation of Ukraine’s currency will have a certain impact on Ukrainian-Chinese trade relations.”
Shen stressed that the current situation was “temporary”.
“China will continue developing mutually-beneficial cooperation,” he said. “We hope that the situation in Ukraine will stabilize very soon. As for Crimea, we are ready for cooperation after the situation there gets back to normal.”
Is China stirring? By specifiying trade deals with Ukraine and Crimea separately?
This follows earlier comments that appeared to be anti-Russia to some extent:
"China always respects the sovereignty and territorial integrity of all states. The Crimean crisis should be resolved politically under the frameworks of law and order. We call on all sides to remain calm and exercise restraint to avoid further escalation of the tension," said Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesman Hong Lei.
"China has a very strict anti-secession One-China policy."
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"China has a very strict anti-secession One-China policy."
oh reary
Yes but they have a very loose annexation policy too. Sucks to be Taiwan right now.
China sees an opportunity. They already have an agreement with Rosneft of Russia to explore energy reserves in Siberia. Now they see a chance to secure a position with Russia in the new independent Crimean energy sector.
On Tuesday, the Crimean parliament has confiscated the Ukrainian companies Ukrtransgaz, Chernomorneftegaz and the Feodosia petroleum products terminal. It also claimed that the continental shelf now belongs to Crimea.
Free Tibet!
You giving out free tibets? I'll take 2, please.
China ambassador to Russia:
Yu teiku kulai mia, wi teiku tibet, ebelibodi isu hapi!
The Chinese ambassador is Japanese? Who knew!
Iie, japonisu izu saondo raiku deisu! In Japonisu zea izu no saundo raiku "eru"...
Keshi, zhonguen shuo "L".
... but what is Boris know!?
Don't eat the brown ones.
Free Tibet indeed. Its all fun and games to see the US humiliated, but what if Turkestan or Tibet suddenly decide they would like a little self determination with a side order of referendum? And isn't it a bad precident to infer that Taiwan might get to vote on whether it wants to be part of China or not? And what about Chechnya?
Putin has openned pandora's box. All sorts of trouble may come flying out.
Actually, the West opened Pandora's box with Kosovo. Putin just followed the Kosovo script. Unlike 0zer0, Putin learns from mistakes.
In all fairness, 0zer0 is still working on his putting with Reggie.
Pandora's box or hell's mouth?
I recall accounts of US troops painting " happy easter " on ordinance dropped on Yugoslavia during Lent/Orthodox easter period.
I was never more ashamed of this country ( until recent - and repeated - events.. starting with a particular 2008 election ).
Taiwan might decide to become Amherikan.
If Snowden can be part of Russia, I think you could sell California to Mongolia (for $1) and solve a lot of entitlement issues and lower the National Deficit
There are potential upsides.
China in Siberia is very, vey bad. Russia would be crazy to let them in their back door.
But in the new normal where up is down- hey, what the heck!
That's why the Russians have so many nukes available.
The have to keep tabs on both US AND China...
I own ALLL the tins of beans.
Cue the obligatory Sum Ting Wong comments.
Wo De Fuk She Bein
Sum ting wong indeed mr hammer meat... Sum ting wong indeed
No "sum ting wong"... ebeli ting wong!
Ho Lee Fuk ?
The "one China" comments are directed at Taiwan. Crimea can leave Ukraine, but Taiwan is ours.
Also directed to Obama and John Kerry-Kohn
Mongol Horde.
Frankly, Taiwan is pretty safe.
They have no signif oil.
They burn about 1 mbpd
And the crisis ends with Crimea being annexed by Russia:
http://ukrainianpolicy.com/turkey-warns-russia-it-will-blockade-bosphorus/
More fearmongering by Erdogan citizenism citizens whose paranoia is showing again...
Turkey doesn't seem interested in WW3. I don't blame them. They can't stop "unmarked gunmen" from shooting at Ukrainian servicemen, but they can deter Putin from responding to Ukrainian servicemen who retaliate (unjustifiably or not). Give this guy a nobel peace prize.
This is the kind of incredible statements that can be thought by Erdogan citizenism citizens.
In the Erdogan citizenism world, it is amazing to witness how the remedy to a deficiency appears so often to be more of the deficiency.
The 'solutions' provided by Erdogan citizenism citizens are appealing and reveal the deep culture of denial that is deeply ingrained in Erdogan citizenism.
I suppose if you were Turkey, then you would welcome the idea of a naval theater of operations along your nothern border, and potentially getting drawn into a costly war? If you are so interested in bloodshed, then by all means go join your nation's servicemen, at least then the grownups can talk.
On zerohedge there is no neutral stance. There is pro-Putin, anti-western stance only. I remember the good days when Ron Paul united all of zerohedge. Now it seems that the message has been distorted to anti-American propoganda.
petro , come come, pro putin here you say? how about none of our business ala R Paul?, Putin showing what obuma has become, a very weak man, off to vacation when things get hairy, ala bengazi..no you need not worry.
Delibertate USA notch knocking as of recent globalist plans, the supposed binary tone in ZH is a non-fooled by States and listened to Napolean thang. WHO SAY IMF one world munney wanted? says Puteen, Chiner. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4smim2MNvF8
You mean the same Ron Paul that told us the truth about who did 9/11?
Look I and pretty much everyone that reads ZH has tremendous respect and admiration for Congressman Paul on many things he did while in office to educate a feeble American public on the "facts" as well as in setting the right agenda to change the moneyed interests in "Washington". On these he deserves praise. But just imagine what would have happened if he had had the courage as a Republican candidate running a second time for the office of President of the United States telling the American people the "truth" about who took us down on September 11, 2001?
Having said that "none" of them stepped forward to change this Country and the World about the legacy of that day that unfortunately is bringing us now to the edge of war with an adversary that is our equal on many levels.
Can't go back and change what should have been debated after the "Commission Report" and now all of them can reflect all they want on what might have been had they done the right thing for themselves, the rest of the Country and the World!
Why would Ron Paul comment on something that ultimately won't be proven? Exactly what evidence confirms one way vs the other? It's like arguing 1 God vs many Gods vs no God. Stick to what is confirmed fact.
You mean like these facts?
By the way PD Architects and Engineers went to all members of Congress with this "information" and not one of them had the spine with the exception of Senator Wellstone of Minnesota who "knocked on several doors" to find out what actually happened.
We certainly know what happened to him and that it served as a warning to everyone else in Congress who "initially" wanted the same answers as did he.
I think it's safe to say right now with where we're headed that there are worse things than death or should I say your choices in the way you want to be remembered in this life mark you!
I would say ZH is more pro Snowden, anti Free Shit Army Amerika NWO gangsters and mildly Pro Putin.
The Russian Deputy Premier called the West "a monkey with a hand grenade." Or was it a putter?
On zerohedge, the stance neutralizes you!
Anti-America ? More like anti-those asshole like obumpa, Mccocain and petrodollar who are destroying America.
LOL a few atomic underwater blasts and that 'Straits' Becomes wide open seas LOL
Perhaps my sense of humor needs adjusting, because I didn't find that to be funny. Have you ever experienced death or tragedy?
F you! I had ancestors who fought that Ottoman shit and beat their arses. F them.
Somehow, that just doesn't ring true. Turkey, right now, is not in a position to do anything other than hang on. This is the CIA talking, and these fools actually believe that if they say it, it's true.
not widely discussed point (if at all) is that China had signed a contract with former ukranian president Yanukovich about building deep water port in Crimea
they definately hope to renew this contract with Putin
Let us not forget the Chinese also had long term farmland lease agreements with Ukraine, which the neonazis in power now want to dissolve and instead sell that land for pennies on the dollar to their EU overlords and American corporate interests.
Is there clear title with insurance?
China admits Crimean annexation among the first ones!
Can the west overlook Russia and BRICS's monetary goals lot longer now?
I can say it again. The biggest lender for the US of A.
And ... so it begins (via Twitter):
Head of Ukraine's TV beaten and forced to resign by Svoboda:
http://youtu.be/1c6eYId4fPE
Great post A thanks for providing that.
Hope we can make that one go viral to show the international community what a wonderful thing neo-Nazi government in Ukraine looks like to the rest of the World and more importantly to it's citizens.
What a beacon of U.S. Liberty should look like at least in the eyes of the current U.S. President and his Congress!
Isn't ALL of Ukrainian TV controlled by people (oligarchs) with dual citizenship? Is Svoboda turning on the NWO stooges and dual citizens?
apparently "Svoboda" guys did not like that Ukrainian TV was translating Putin's speech on Crimea reintegration with Russia
The tide is high but. . .
I'm not that kind of bitch who gives it up. . .
Bet China would cooperate with a seceded Texas too.
China anarchocapitalist. China do business with everyone.
Tough shit DC.
What about the two French Aircraft Carriers the Sovietski have already bought and paid for?
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/373471/appeasement-paris-john-fund
It's not like the French economy is booming here and "all the Zerohedge clowns say the French are pretty much a bag of wind."
Well...how about a 25 billion dollar euro delivery charge?
French gun for sale. Dropped once, never used.
Let the French think and decide about this and not some face fucked disabled yankee vet who doesn't know the word consequence so it seems. What you propose is theft and I doubt you even get that.
Ironic it was pressure from Neocons to trash Detente in late 70's with Jackson -Vanik amendment and also to open up China Trade by Kissinger in order to spite the then Soviet Union. Neocons still at it , but China is not playing their game. In meantime China has also become a Superpower thanks to US and the US a nation of Superdebt. Well done Neocons !
China burns about 10.25 million bpd of the good stuff. They pump domestically about 4.5 million bpd.
The first number is growing explosively. The second number is flat to slightly declining.
There's really not much else to know.
You people thick or empty above. They are a part of the eurasia trade zone (Shanghai Coop). Russia and China are partners in the most strategic sense. Although they work with every nation on earth, including the US very closely, Russia and China's relationship are on a completely different level to any other relationship it has with other countries. DC/EU Council is living its own lies and deceit, the world is watching and everyone with a ounce of grey matter knows the shit you guys are trying pull. We are growing tired of the BS pre-text you continue to post via your presstitutes.
Read this as a fuck you to Obama and the neocons. The rest of world has finally had enough with the bullying, meddling, arrogant bastards that pretend to be our representatives.
Bush, Clintons, Bush, and Obama. All NWO and NeoCon puppets.
Isn't it about time we in the West did some "absataining" in the security council when China gets hit with some bad stuff, or let the Chinese do some fighting for security purposes which the west stays out of, until the fighting stops where we can slip in and win some contracts having not spend a penny nor a drop of blood...
USELESS LEADERS OF THE WEST - WAKE UP
Resource rich Russia and resource hungry China share 3600+ km of border.
The comming Sino-Russian War is going to be monumental.
It's also likely going to be very unfortunate for sparsely populated Mongolia which sits land locked between the two, which was briefly a Soviet satellite state, and has in turn both conquered and ruled, and been conquered and ruled by, China...
Better worry about your country...
-You think there is nothing in all of that landmass of value to heavily populated and resource/energy hungry China?
Supposedly less than 3 million people occupying roughly 604,000 sq. miles.
China could easily raise and arm an Army twice the entire population of Mongolia: man, woman and child...
China will do nothing of the sort. China is rather isolationist and anyone who thinks they are going to take on Russia is stupid. They are sitting back seeing of the former Heavyweights will try another bout. China is 4500 years old for a reason.
I posted China's oil profile above. Nothing else matters. That includes the 4450 of those years before they depended on it for survival.
Or they could just buy what they want, like they do in Africa, South America, etc.
Ain't gonna happen !
Russia would nuke China in a heartbeat. The reverse is NOT an option for the time being...
Doku Umarov reported dead:
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2014/03/chechen-terrorist-leader-doku-umarov.html
Putin watching his six.
V
Great news!
Thanks for providing that one!
I hope he will burn forever.
That guy is Kiev who asked for his help, he just put a curse on him... actually, he just reminded Putin of some unfinished business.
Eventually all these countries join together and have a US dollar dumping party.
Well, Tibet should vote independence next month and the US should start signing trade deals and agreements with Tibet. We would see how China likes these tactics.
You must have hit a sore spot. Good aim.
this is an outrage
it will not stand
we will make sure it will not stand.
people of kiev we have created a new reich here with are blood.
with the fuhrer back in power and the help of are jewish friends we can conquer even china.
poland is with us blackwater 2.
mighty undercover turkick jew erdogan has are backs
we say to all free loving jewish and nazis of the world come to kiev get trained by the cia,mossad and the gay mi6.
we will then move forward to russia and china.
we can do this this is not a dream.
the beast putin and chinaman chairman mo de dong on on the ropes now one more push and victory will be arse.
lets roll
Looks like the masked false flag black-ops boys are working hard to destabilize this crock-pot of boiling uncertainty. Lets all hope everyone in the world sees this as a wicked provocation it is to enlarge the warmongering efforts of the illegal govt puppets it Washington, DC and their bankster masters.
Ukrainian serviceman killed in Crimea:
"A Ukrainian serviceman has been killed in an attack at a military facility in the Crimean capital Simferopol, the defence ministry has said."
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2014/03/ukrainian-serviceman-wounde...
'Global Times’ Chief Editor Hu Xijin tells his fellow Weibo users to refrain from making any comparisons between sovereignty debates on the Crimean Peninsula and those in China (Weibo)'.
'Let the Anti-Secession Law serve its purpose! China is never in the wrong, and from now on our need for power is most important. In this world, to a great degree, truth follows power'.
Needless to say, those holding 'other' views have their comments vapourised.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a9c0db18-4554-11e3-b98b-00144feabdc0.html#axzz...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10332007/China-to-r...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/22/china-ukraine-idUSL3N0HI046201...
As an American living in Ukraine (Odessa and Simferopol) with NO extensive expertise in economics, I have 3 questions.
1.) I have read (but never personally confirmed as fact) that the BRICS countries (including Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa??) comprise approximately one-half of the world's population. When one adds Syria and Iran to that group, they have a huge amount of energy, minerals, precious metals and other natural resources - along with the manpower. Russia and China alone has vast regions yet unexplored for resources just waiting to be tapped.
My QUESTION: Why have not the BRICS established their own joint-currency based on gold, oil, natural gas and other commodities? Do they fear igniting a thermonuclear war with the West?
Certainly other nations would still need to trade with the BRICS. And the BRICS could slowly sell off their dollar-based securities to those that wanted them; and therebyy probably kill off the West's central banks and the IMF, forcing the West to establish a new commodity-based currency with REAL value.
2.) Does ANYONE honestly know what China's Commerce Minister Shen Danyang REALLY meant? His statement sounded like a lot of double-talk to me.
3.) If a tree falls on a man alone in the woods, does HE make a sound? ;-) ;-)
A Poem by Jack4952 (aka, John-Henry Hill)
As John Kerry shits in his pants,
The people of Crimea celebrate with dance.
Barry Obama, puppet of the Banksters,
Recites from the teleprompter, "The Russians are gangsters!"
Neo-cons and Nazis now cry in their champagne,
“Our only goal was to recreate Charlemagne.”
But the European Union still proclaims with a smile,
To all of our members, we shout "Mein Furher, Seig Heil"!