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The Next One: Moldova's Transnistria Region Said To Seek Russian Accession

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Many had feared (or expected), fallout from Crimea's referendum and subsequent accession to Russia may embolden ethnic minorities in many bordering nations to seek self-determination. It appears that is taking place in Moldova where Vedomosti reports that Mikhail Burla, head of the Transnistria region's legislature, has asked Russia's Duma for draft laws on accession to Russia to be altered to allow the region to join. The timing of this move is surreal as headlines appeared this morning that Europe is looking to speed up its "association" with Moldova. In a 2006 referendum, over 97% of Transnistrians voted to join Russia...

 

Who is next?

 

And it appears #1 Transnistria is indeed next...

Moscow-based newspaper cites letter from Mikhail Burla, head of Transnistria’s legislature, to the head of Russia’s State Duma.

 

Letter asks for Russian draft law on accession to Russia to be altered to allow for Transnistria to join, says current draft bill would only allow for Crimea to join Russia

 

2006 referendum in Transnistria saw 97.2% vote to join Russia, Burla cited as saying in letter

The Moldovan Director of the Russian Institute for Strategic Studies had a few things to say...

What is the problem in the U.S.? They talk about the weakness of Russia, but still afraid of competition on our part. They do not want a competitor. China - a rival, but not a competitor. And the U.S. is not interested in what system in Russia - monarchical, feudal, communist. Only interested in how to relax, but better - to split. Yeltsin they liked - when it broke up the country. Putin does not like it - he wants to save Russia.

 

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"It's been 60 years - not even changed a generation, if Crimea voted for reunification with Russia, the situation arises where any normal person would say, but what distinguishes the situation in Transnistria? - Says Leonid Reshetnikov. - The question becomes relevant than ever. Have to wait for the Americans attempt to deal with Transnistria. They have no other way to make a muck of Russia. They are afraid that gathered to fight with someone. Who will fight?

 

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Russia, in my opinion, after the Crimea should recognize Transnistria Tiraspol and propose to hold another referendum on reunification with Russia. Differently protect Transnistria we can not.

 

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We must not make concessions when we openly say that Russian world should be destroyed. I urge the show will. We must not become the new Bulgaria, the new Serbia. These and other countries have become dependent on the United States. Travel to Bulgaria, look - no minister in Sofia not be appointed without the consent of the U.S. ambassador.

 

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Now we prepare for the dissemination of Russian legislation in Transnistria. It would be difficult without a strong methodological support. For this great help RISS - special thanks. Two years ago, our president assured the Russian expert community that we will conduct a Eurasian course. It took not much time to see all that we have taken the first steps in this direction. "

And then this...

  • *EU MAY SPEED UP SIGNING OF MOLDOVA ASSOCIATION AGREEMENT: CANDU
  • *EU ACCORD NEEDED ON UKRAINE, TRANSNISTRIA TENSIONS: MOLDOVA

Signing accord may be expedited because of situation in Transnistria, Crimea, Andrian Candu, Moldova parliament’s vice president, says in Bucharest.

  • Accord was expected to be signed by end-Aug.: Candu
  • Romanian Foreign Minister Titus Corlatean asked EU’s foreign affairs council yday to speed up signing of Moldova’s association agreement
  • Transnistria is Moldova’s secessionist region that borders Ukraine and has Russian military presence

And the Moldovan President believes it would be an "erroneous step":

Transdniestria's accession to Russia would be "an erroneous step," Moldovan President Nicolae Timofti said at a press conference in Chisinau on Tuesday.

 

"I've been informed that the speaker of the Tiraspol parliament has addressed Moscow on the matter. Such actions are counterproductive, and they would not favor either the Republic of Moldova or the Russian Federation. If Russia resorted to such a step, this would be an erroneous decision and would not improve Russia's authority on the international arena," Timofti said.

 

Timofti admitted that "there is a lot in common" between the situation in Ukraine and the events in Crimea and Transdniestria.

So to summarise - The EU is seeking a "close" association with Moldova and is attempting to speed up this process and a region of mostly-Russian-ethnicity (with 97% wishing to accede) is demanding that Russia draft a law allowing them to join Russia...

 

Ring any bells?

 

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Tue, 03/18/2014 - 10:40 | 4562961 Seize Mars
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Well I'd like Connecticut to secede also. But I don't want to join Russia, I just want to divorce the federal government.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 10:44 | 4562982 cifo
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Pandora's box was opened with Kosovo, years ago.

 

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 10:47 | 4563006 Pure Evil
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Hopefully, Berkley in Calipornia will be next to want annexation by North Korea.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 11:16 | 4563184 Vampyroteuthis ...
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"Come and Take It!" Texas is big enough to survive on its own.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 11:29 | 4563251 gold-is-not-dead
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Transnistria only smuggles guns and drugs, lovely for Putin.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 13:25 | 4564095 HoofHearted
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It's not that at all...they just want Snowden to have more places to vacation. Putin is trying to be a good host. 

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 12:43 | 4563782 yrbmegr
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Mexico begs to differ.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 12:14 | 4563579 wakablahh
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Berkeley* ; a few liberty movents like the Free Speech movement started in Berkeley.  Who's to say they wont be the ones protesting to end the war if WW3 does occur..

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 14:39 | 4564496 Againstthelie
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Nobody recognizing that the word "annexation" is totally wrong?

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 10:49 | 4563023 Canadian Dirtlump
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Don't tell that to the West. The rules are, any secession or annexation they want is legal under any circumstances. Any one they don't want is illegal, immoral, an affront to self determination, and perhaps even the work of the lord of darkness directly.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 13:21 | 4564075 HoofHearted
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Hell, Lincoln suspended habeus corpus to keep the secession of Maryland from happening. He couldn't very well have the capital of his country surrounded by another, so he threw several Maryland legislators into jail just to make it turn out the way he wanted.

And this is the guy so many look up to...he was an 1860s version of George the 43rd or of The Bamster. 

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 10:52 | 4563049 NotApplicable
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More like WWI.

Lines on paper guaranteed to provoke conflict as long as they exist.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 12:03 | 4563514 Herd Redirectio...
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Thats largely thanks to British style 'nation-building', post-colonialism.

They wanted the populations divided, even after British rule (which really was just a period of more indirect rule).  Look at Pakistan, India, Bangladesh (there were massive migrations when the countries were established, that resolved some issues, while causing new ones).

Look at Syria, Turkey and Iraq.  All w/ sizeable Kurdish population.  Just enough to destabilize each nation to an extent.  Look at Sudan. 

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 10:48 | 4563012 Canadian Dirtlump
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I don't know that in this case moldova is going to secede from anywhere, but doubtless this will be distorted by every MSM outlet in the western world ( especially the rabid folks at fox news - which for reasons unclear, I pollute my drive home with daily ) as Putin's overtly aggressive neo imperial land grab.

 

People use Putin's comment about the break up of the old Soviet Union as the great tragedy to fuel this. Fact is, there isn't much reason, outside of poor governance post collapse and perhaps international meddling why MOST of it didn't stay intact. The fact that the West is hell bent on putting the world under it's thumb or destroying it, we may just see that fact proven as people outside our hologram of lies generator clamor to circle the wagons and brace for their own attempted democratization via kinetic military action or death squad injection.

 

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 11:53 | 4563435 Herd Redirectio...
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Whats been great about this Crimea debacle is it has shown to all the world Western hypocrisy.  I mean, how many comments have you read where people complain about "soldiers on foreign soil", and yet, America has over 500+ bases  outside of the continental US!  In other words, on foreign soil!

In military tactics, the 'double envelopment' is considered extremely effective.  And its clear as day that NATO/City of London/Wall St have been trying to 'envelop' Iran and Russia for some time now.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 10:58 | 4563095 Azannoth
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A record ~3000 Ex-Patriots renounced US citizenship in 2013!

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 12:28 | 4563661 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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Such a small amount, yet it's enough to get TPTB here in the US to worry. "Who wouldn't be a citizen of Rome?" The very rich already have the luxury of affording to stay one or more places. It's when the wealthier middle class depart, either to their spouse's homeland or their ancestral homes. Probably the bigger game changer is the internet, where a lot of work/business can be conducted regardless of location. Many places have outstanding internet service, at a fraction of the cost I pay the evil death star AT&T. Bottom line, when the quality middle class leave in any detectable number, that could start some stampeding. Then watch for the "kinder, gentler" border issues, etc. My family already saw Bolshevism once and I can tell you it's creeping back again here in the US.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 14:23 | 4564430 SAT 800
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Transnistria; where the good looking Russian Trannies live ! Whoo-who !

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 10:42 | 4562969 jerryj
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Oh no - the Domino Theory is back!!!

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 11:39 | 4563342 nuclearsquid
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Though in opposing it, i suppose we now lack the moral authority we had back then.

 

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 10:42 | 4562970 cifo
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Transnistria to Russia, Moldova to Romania.

 

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 10:49 | 4563025 Element
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Bulgarians seem kinda Russian don't they?

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 10:43 | 4562975 fooshorter
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In Russian monoply there is no get out of jail...

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 10:44 | 4562976 Element
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"Mr Putin!  Tear down this Democracy!"

- rose garden barry

 

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 10:56 | 4562979 Mercury
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Ha! The Kentucky/Illinois/Indiana neighborhood is a bit of a stretch. All that real estate belongs near Baltic Ave.

 

Better analogy is the Blues Brothers movie.

We're putting the band back together...

John Kerry can play Aretha Franklin. 

 

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 18:37 | 4565449 StychoKiller
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Meh, at least Aretha can spell "respect!"

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 10:45 | 4562981 SpanishGoop
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 "The timing of this move is surreal as headlines appeared this morning that Europe is looking to speed up its "association" with Moldova. In a 2006 referendum, over 97% of Transnistrians voted to join Russia..."

Well a referendum never stopped Europe before, so Putin does has to hurry.

 

 

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 12:41 | 4563765 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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Double-secret irony, I think a couple of nations voted (or tried to) their way out of the Euro and EU. Democracy is what I stick into you, baby. The reality of two choices (west//EU or Russian) is that they both suck. The avg person will still be treated like a resource to be sucked dry. 

The other irony is that russians have gone to some of these other places in order to get EU residency-- we're not talking about some ethnic enclave that's been there since 1702. I do grant you that those do exist, which does have it's existential questions. Granted the weather's a little nicer in some of them, but still, it's not for a lack of space in Russia that they have left. Russia in CCCP times also "exported" populations to dilute the uppity locals so again there's chicanery on both sides. Avg person is willing to get along in most circumstances, regardless of the "official" govt. It's when shootings start happening on ethnic lines, that's when it gets bad. You'll do (or go along with) anyone to save your family.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 14:32 | 4564474 SAT 800
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A feferendum would stop the Euro immediately; which is why nobody gets to vote on it. Are you any less dead if you get killed by a French Fighter Plane bombing you when you're shopping at the market in Libya ? It's really clear that we have two power and finance centers, ( rip-off control central), grinding out propaganda at top speed and weaseling all over the house trying to add victims on to their tax bases. Business as usual.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 10:44 | 4562984 chaartist
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They better watch for Venice because then it is all done.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 11:29 | 4563247 ThirdWorldDude
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Catalonia is also having one in november. Then come the Basques...

I'd like to see that bitch Björk sing "Declare Independence" for Texas, Flanders etc. the way she sang it for Kosovo.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 12:58 | 4563895 Independent
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This is a natural reaction of the people, when they see they have no voice in Zio controlled government that is bought out, they seek to bring the power structure to a local level where they can control it better.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 10:45 | 4562987 Youri Carma
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All I can say to the U.S. is: "It's another fine mess you've got me into" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XynIMOmFxF0

- Iraq - Mess!
- Libya - Mess!
- US - Mess!

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 10:45 | 4562990 Dr. Venkman
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Introducing: Transnistria Oblast

 

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 10:53 | 4562994 tony wilson
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this will not stand

this cannot be allowed to stand

we must do something not to allow this to stand.

 

it clearly states in the bible that this land belongs to the jewish people.

only those sacred folks can be allowed to rape and pillage.

russia and mad dog putin must be stopped.

this will be a walk in the park folks.

 

we can send seal team 6 into the borgo pass thus blocking spats and nats russian not so special cardboard forces.

freedonia,moldova,transnisea and the borgo pass regions need the freedom only zion can bring.

we let adolf kill all the jews all of them.

did you not see the spielberg and bbc shows?

we let putin kill freedom in crimea thus creating a million anne franks little girls trapped hiding in lofts.

we must draw a line peeple at the borgo pass

lets roll we can win this.

forward to the borgo pass .

uk usa all they way to a glorious pointless death.

 

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 14:14 | 4564380 FeralSerf
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Khazaria is the ancestral homeland of the Ashkenazim. If they can claim that Palestine is their property, then they can damn sure claim Khazaria is theirs.

Where is Khazaria? Well, the Crimea is part of it as is most of southeast Ukraine.

http://www.khazaria.com/khazar-history.html

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 10:48 | 4562995 Element
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Remember how the Eastern Block fell over, one state at a time in 1989-90?

Variations on a theme.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 10:47 | 4563005 FJ
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DAX jumps again...Ze German DAX badgers Russia for more annexations...MOAR Dawai Dawai...

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 10:54 | 4563014 pashley1411
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Its not domino's.    Nature, (and politics) abhors a vacuum.

The EU zone has been, and probably will always be, with its head up its arse sucking its population dry.    Now the US seems set to join the sociaist conga line to penury.

So the Russians, opportunist to their very core, are reestablishing their 500-year leadership of Greater Orthodoxy.

Besides, Putin Chess-player will give up "claims" to Moldovia in exchange for the recognizition of redrawing Ukrainian borders.   Win-Win, right?

Same ole, same ole. 

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 10:50 | 4563028 DeliciousSteak
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Moldova? Is that the country that's so poor it makes even most of Africa look like Manhattan? Yeah, let the Russians do what they want with that one.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 12:31 | 4563679 layman_please
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indeed. transnistria is even worse. if they would have to pay for the NG from russia, they wouldn't have a budget. 

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 14:17 | 4564395 FeralSerf
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Transnistria is where most of the manufacturing in Moldova is located. The rest of Moldova is mostly agriculture, especially grapes.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 12:58 | 4563893 Ratscam
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Chisinau is a real shithole. People are so poor, but so are they in romania, transnistria, bulgaria, ukraine, hence al that remains is hope that either side will help them out. Not sure that the EU is the better option than russia.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 14:19 | 4564404 FeralSerf
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Access to the EU's agricultural markets would be very helpful for the Moldovan economy. But the French farmers wouldn't like it much.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 13:04 | 4563907 Independent
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They go to work in Russia because the Russians have been handing out Russian passports to try to keep it from going to Romania.  In Soviet times the best wines came from Moldova, and they grow some pretty damn fine world class wines.  And to be honest with you given how shitty Romania is run they would be much better off with the Russians in my honest opinion.  Why become a Euro biatch.  Russia is trying to secure its great wine growing region.  Crimea is the naval superbase with gorgeous scenery and fine beaches.  But you have to have some classy wine to drink, and Moldova provided most of the wine for Russia since czarist times and actually since Roman times it has been into vinculture

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 10:51 | 4563034 sudzee
Tue, 03/18/2014 - 10:52 | 4563047 tmosley
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Putin: Putin, the Scourge of Carpathia, the Sorrow of Moldovia, commands you!

Obama:  Oh, command me lord!

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 10:54 | 4563057 Son of Captain Nemo
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Like dominos falling....

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 10:58 | 4563088 ptoemmes
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Damn, I knew I should not have slept through High School Geography (or any of the other classes come to think of it).  Where-in-the-hell is Moldovia?  Ahh, Google knows...

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 13:15 | 4563973 Independent
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Moldova was one of the principalities of Latin peoples that inhabit the region that is todays Moldova and Romania.  Romania is made up of three regions, Wallachia the flat lands of the southeastern part of Romania, Transylvania the mountainous region, and Moldova, northeastern, which is broken up into two Moldovas, one is part of Romania the other was part of Russia, called Moldovan Republic, since it was liberated by the Russians from Turkish control.  Now the predominantly Russian part of the Republic is called Transnistria and it broke off from Moldova when they broke off from the Soviet Union.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_regions_of_Romania

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 11:00 | 4563099 FiatFapper
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Azerbaijan will be next; the Baku penisula is ideal for drilling dominance in the Caspain Sea and Russia could push the boundaries with Iran for territorial rights.

Or Algeria which has the purest oil in the World, so less refinery costs.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 11:01 | 4563109 hugovanderbubble
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IVe been in Chisinau( Moldova) and have talked also with Transnitrian Government (They are prorussians no,,,They ARE THE LAST RESORT of the REAL SOVIET UNION)

 

 

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 11:11 | 4563164 Arius
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you seem to know your stuff .... what do you mean by the "THE LAST RESORT of the REAL SOVIET UNION" ?

Do you believe, in your estimation, that they can be a danger or threat to us?

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 11:03 | 4563118 swmnguy
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Global finance capitalism is forcing all manner of consolidations as it hits the limits of a finite world and is forced to "expand" by eating itself.  Smaller units just can't survive. That's why in the US we're seeing consolidation of airlines, media, telecoms, etc.  Little countries can survive if they have an angle, like the Swiss, or nobody cares about them like Costa Rica.  But if you're a little country in Europe without any outstanding features, you'd better get married to whomever will take you.  At least Moldova knows what the Russians will want from them.  And they can see from looking at Latvia, Greece and Ireland what the EU will extract from them.  I wouldn't call it an attractive choice, but a fairly easy one.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 11:02 | 4563120 Son of Captain Nemo
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My the Jews on this site are getting mighty "nervous"?...  Must be the loss of all that money in the poor investments they all made?

Think we need to send all our "dual citizen" beaked ones with a one-way-ticket to Kiev and let them support their fellow Nazi-brother-in-arms that they funded for this failing operation with no shame.

Go ahead Boobies! 

I still think your prospects are good towards victory and I want nothing more than to see you defending Svoboda to the death and destruction of the Russian invaders...

Will be back here watching your success and cheering you on towards victory!!!

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 13:17 | 4564046 Independent
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The Jews would love to break up Syria into lawless regions.  They can move the west bank Palestinians there or just use the land beyond the Golan heights for Greater Israel.  Knock Syria and Hezbollah out and the Jews feel a lot better.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 11:02 | 4563121 XitSam
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Didn't the USSR deport Latvians, Estonians and Lithuanians to Siberia and move ethnic Russians into their homes? 

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 13:35 | 4564157 Independent
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Maybe they were trying to get back some ancestral lands the Balts took over under the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth, you think?

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 17:13 | 4565134 layman_please
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a okay, then it's perfectly legit. ancestral lands. lol

i'm just wondering, why did they deport these people to siberia instead to the lands they originate if that really was the case? 

take a guess how would anybody define a country which has 1/6th of the planet area and still feels the need to have more?

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 17:28 | 4565202 Independent
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Actually except for the Estonians which speak a non indo European language (closer to fins) the balts are actually linguistically from same sub branch of indo european as the slavic languages.  So really they are both entitled to live there.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 18:08 | 4565318 layman_please
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you know what? agreed. everybody is entitled to live wherever they wish. it's politicians/technocrats/dictators who tell us otherwise. they wouldn't miss a second to exploit their population to rally them for the next war to expand their domestic and foreign power.

but no-one is entitled to deport anyone for whatever excuse.

jah see on tõsi, eestlased räägivad keelt, mis on kõige sarnasem soome keelele. teisest soome-ugri keelest, ungari keelest toimus hargnemine ligi 5000 aastat tagasi.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 14:33 | 4564160 Independent
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Not my fault for the repost the ZH servers were funky

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 14:22 | 4564426 FeralSerf
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Stalin did that on a large scale in the Ukraine as well.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 13:16 | 4564034 Totentänzerlied
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Ding Ding Ding, We have a winner!

How did ethnic Russians end up in Crimea and Ukraine (and just about every other corned of Eastern Europe from southern Finland to Georgia, Armenia, and the -stans) in the first place?

Why, Imperial Russia colonized/annexed almost all of those places, of course. Then it lost them in the 19th and 20th centuries.

Then the USSR used a minor variant of the exact same tactic we just witnessed - I am really surprised the US media hasn't been screaming about this - where Russia asks its neighbor if it needs help, then gladly obliges.

Back then it was the RSSR being "invited" by the national communist parties to protect them from fascists and imperialists and aid their revolutions. Then those parties, along with all the others, were without exception liquidated to the tune of 70-100% casualties. Next the Red Army and Cheka/NKVD destroyed any undesirable populations and social elements (deportation, execution, dispersal), and brought in ethnic Russians to colonize (never ever use the words colonize and USSR in the same sentence, it is absolutely just not done).

This was Russia's gift to its future self. This is their pretense. Thanks to the Kosovo fiasco, among others, Russia had a strong modern-era precedent for a regional sovereignty referendum. Pretense + precedent. The EU has allowed itself to be played like a cheap violin, while the US seriously miscalculated then compounded its error with its immense hubris.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 13:33 | 4564077 Independent
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How did ethnic Russians end up in Crimea and Ukraine (and just about every other corned of Eastern Europe from southern Finland to Georgia, Armenia, and the -stans) in the first place?

Well I can attest to the fact that Slavic peoples have been in Crimea for a longer time than Tatars so what is your point about Crimea.  Its obvious you dont want it to be Russian, if you dont like it go fight the Russians for it Mr Erich von Manstein

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianization_of_Kievan_Rus'

the tatars came on the scene in the 1300s

Christianity was first brought to the territory of modern Belarus, Russia and Ukraine by Saint Andrew, the first Apostle of Jesus Christ. He traveled over the Black Sea to the Greek colony of Chersonesus Taurica in Crimea, where he converted several thousand men to new faith.  This was around 800AD

The Greeks had small coastal towns they would use to trade with the locals all over the Black Sea.

Now you little goose stepper, at that time there was not distinction between a Ukrainian and Russian, cause they were and still are the same RUS people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rus'_people

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 14:28 | 4564457 FeralSerf
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The Khazars (or the Ashkenazim) were there for about 500 years before the Tatars and their Mongol pals.

http://www.khazaria.com/images/khazaria.gif

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 11:04 | 4563128 U4 eee aaa
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The funniest thing i heard was that people we lining up in Ukraine at ATMs in order to get money. Sometimes the lineups were stretching around the block

Yep,.....just like the good old days again. Time to start lining up. It is like these people have a defeated attitude already

You just can't make this stuff up

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 13:23 | 4564086 813kml
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How is that funny?  That would be the expected behavior in times of turmoil.  The average Ukrainian is a pawn in the game and is just trying to prepare and protect their families.  Americans line up for toilet paper and Funyuns when the forecast calls for more than an inch of rain, what would they do if the SHTF?

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 12:17 | 4568023 U4 eee aaa
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Funny in an ironic sort of way. Not a derisive way

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 11:06 | 4563135 RazvanM
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Lots of drones <around> here.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 11:07 | 4563144 Land Snark
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If we just keep our powder dry, let the Ruskies "liberate" all the former satellites, vote in a conservative president in 16, all we'd have to do is open up the XL pipeline and drill baby drill! Then sit back and watch the mayhem of regret with all of the 97 percenters.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 11:09 | 4563152 AchtungAffen
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I'd love to see Texas annexing back to México. Historic justice?

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 11:10 | 4563157 U4 eee aaa
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Texas will beat up Mexico

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 13:05 | 4563957 AchtungAffen
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Yeah, like Crockett beat Santana, right?

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 18:49 | 4565495 StychoKiller
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(Carlos) Santana != Santa Anna

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 10:44 | 4567526 AchtungAffen
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My bad, sorries. Wasn't thinking of Charly though.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 21:02 | 4565959 Leraconteur
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The Mexican Army had a 10:1 advantage and took 11 days to take fewer than 5 acres. Not exactly a stellar military performance.

I am more and more convinced that the posters here are brain-washed millenials from the USA or millenial-aged non-Americans.

Nearly all of you have poor history educations.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 10:44 | 4567516 AchtungAffen
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Yet who won in the end? Poor performance or not, pops. I wish I was a millenial, though... Oh, and considering the FoxNewsism of this site and comments, I really doubt there are many millenials around.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 11:15 | 4563177 sudzee
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Latvia asking for EU compensation for any costs of sanctions.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 11:20 | 4563201 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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So to summarise - The EU is seeking a "close" association with Moldova and is attempting to speed up this process...

 

Transnistria is the smokescreen or table setter so to speak depending which side's view you want to look at this from. Transnistria is like one giant Russian military base on the bank of Dniester river as is.

The real fight is for Gaguazia

http://www.rferl.org/content/moldova-gagauz-referendum-counting/25251251...

An overwhelming majority of voters in a referendum held in the autonomous Moldovan region of Gagauzia have voted for integration with a Russia-led customs union.

The chairwoman of Gagauzia's election commission, Valentina Lisnic, said on February 3 that 98.4 percent of voters chose closer relations with the CIS Customs Union.

In a separate question, 97.2 percent were against closer EU integration.

In addition, 98.9 percent of voters supported Gagauzia's right to declare independence should Moldova lose or surrender its own independence.

Turnout was more than 70 percent in the February 2 vote.

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Gagauzia has a population of about 155,000 people, mostly ethnically Gagauz, Turkic-speaking Orthodox Christians.

Many locals fear that Chisinau's EU-integration agenda masks an intention to unite Moldova with neighboring Romania.

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Moldovan Prime Minister Iurie Leanca also told RFE/RL's Moldovan Service on February 3 that the referendum had no legal legitimacy.

"What happened in the region of Gagauzia, unfortunately, represents a defiance of law," he said. "Of course, the referendum that was held yesterday is more than regrettable. The Republic of Moldova will hold parliamentary elections at the end of this year -- the most representative and relevant referendum on various issues, including the most important issue, which is the foreign policy of the country."

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Looks like that association is going to be fast tracked now....

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 11:28 | 4563225 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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And some color concerning that CIS Customs Union since it is important for other reasons.

http://www.worldbulletin.net/europe/130907/gagauzia-wants-independence-f...

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The Kremlin has been pushing former Soviet republics to join the customs union for some time. The CIS Customs Union was launched in 2011 and consists currently of Russia, Belarus, and Kazakhstan.

Armenia and Kyrgyzstan announced their plans to join the group last year.  Moscow has said the union will be widened into a Eurasian Economic Union, modeled after the European Union, by 2015.

 

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 11:34 | 4563296 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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And more importantly from one Mr. Undead Soros himself and his various 'foundations'. Everything you wanted to know but were afraid to ask about why one would want to ass rape and strip mine Gagauzia and try to associate it with the EU as opposed to Russia.

http://www.gagauzia.md/public/files/publicatii/The_Guide____Gagauzia_opp...

 

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 16:14 | 4564913 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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And even more color on the CIS vs EU issue last polling numbers I can find from November of 2013 and this doesn't include disputed regions like Gagauzia or Transnistria.

http://www.cepolicy.org/publications/moldova-reality-check-success-story...

This from a public opinion poll concerning if Moldova should join the EU or CIS aka ECU.

EU - 44.3%

ECU - 40.4%

Neither - 4.9%

Don't know - 10.4%

 

It is no slam dunk if they put that 'foreign policy' referendum question up for vote that it will go to the EU energy diversification or not from Russian gas. Plus after watching what is going on in the Ukraine and how the EU/NATO really operate that poll may produce different results this time around.

You know what comes next if there is a close vote and the EU/NATO doesn't get their way....

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 11:22 | 4563211 Leraconteur
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This is a total fabrication and yet another justification for The Russians to annex part of another sovereign state. How convenient Russian forces will have to occupy southern and southwestern Ukraine on their way to Transnistria.

When will the Russian ethnic enclaves in Germany and Poland be demanding accession?

as Putin's overtly aggressive neo imperial land grab.

I don't read MSM western media, and I conclude the same.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 11:41 | 4563344 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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And last but not least concerning Moldova in general it's about gas dummies it's always about the gas.

http://www.osw.waw.pl/en/publikacje/osw-commentary/2013-10-11/iasi-unghe...

The Iasi-Ungheni pipeline: a means of achieving energy independence from Russia? Moldova’s attempts at gas supply diversification

Since taking power in 2009, the Alliance for European Integration (AIE) has been trying to end Moldova’s dependence on Russian gas. Currently, natural gas accounts for about 50% of the country’s energy balance (excluding Transnistria), and Gazprom has a monopoly on the supply of gas to the republic. The key element of Chi?in?u’s diversification project is the construction of the Iasi-Ungheni pipeline, which is designed to link the Moldovan and Romanian gas transmission networks, and consequently make it possible for Moldova to purchase gas from countries other than Russia. Despite significant delays, construction work on the interconnector began in August 2013.

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The characteristics of the Moldovan gas market

Moldova virtually does not have its own source of natural gas[1], and so 100% of its gas demand is currently being met by imports from Russia’s Gazprom; the gas is sent to Moldova via a pipeline across Transnistria.

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http://www.allmoldova.com/en/moldova-news/1249057822.html

The Iasi-Ungheni gas pipeline construction is 70% completed 14 march 2014, 16:46

This was announced by Vice-premier, economy minister of Moldova Valeriu Lazar as he visited Ungheni on March 13.

Taking floor at the sitting taken part in by the management of the project and local authorities, the minister pointed out the gas pipeline is to be put into service this July.

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Tue, 03/18/2014 - 12:17 | 4563594 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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And this reason is numero uno why Moldova is not part of the EU or NATO. Also reason numero uno why the next flareup is happening here. 2 pieces are at stake firstly Moldova itself and then the autonomous region of Gagauzia. Which way Moldova falls is determines the amount of flareup in Gagauzia.

Transnistria has been solidly and decisively Russian since the 1990s since in reality it is one giant Russian miltary installation that happens to have civilians living on it.

Some color on Transnistria

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria

Transnistria (also called Trans-Dniestr or Transdniestria) is a breakaway state located mostly on a strip of land between the River Dniester and the eastern Moldovan border with Ukraine. Since its declaration of independence in 1990, and especially after the War of Transnistria in 1992, it is governed as the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic (PMR, also known as Pridnestrovie) a state with limited recognition that claims territory to the east of the River Dniester, and also to the city of Bender and its surrounding localities located on the west bank, in the historical region of Bessarabia. The terms "Transnistria" and "Pridnestrovie" both reference the Dniester River.

Unrecognised by any United Nations member state, Transnistria is designated by the Republic of Moldova as the Autonomous territorial unit with special legal status (Unitatea teritorial? autonom? cu statut juridic special Transnistria),[2] or Stînga Nistrului ("Left Bank of the Dniester"). 

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Because of the Russian military contingent present in Transnistria, the European Court of Human Rights considers Transnistria "under the effective authority or at least decisive influence of Russia".[13]

Transnistria, Nagorno-Karabakh, Abkhazia, and South Ossetia are post-Soviet "frozen conflict" zones.[14][15] These four unrecognized states maintain friendly relations with each other and form the Community for Democracy and Rights of Nations.[16][17][18]

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One other important little tidbit besides gas and tying this also to Ukraine.

Transnistria is an unrecognized but independent [6][7][8][9] presidential republic with its own government, parliament, military, police, postal system, and currency. Its authorities have adopted a constitution, flag, national anthem, and coat of arms. However, after a 2005 agreement between Moldova and Ukraine, all Transnistrian companies that seek to export goods through the Ukrainian border must be registered with the Moldovan authorities.[10] This agreement was implemented after the European Union Border Assistance Mission to Moldova and Ukraine (EUBAM) started its activity in 2005.

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Tue, 03/18/2014 - 17:02 | 4565047 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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One other little ping pong match going on are these association unions.

We got the NATO/EU sponsored GUAM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUAM_Organization_for_Democracy_and_Econom...

G (Georgia)

U (Ukraine)

A (Azerbaijan)

M (Moldova)

and the Russian counter Community for Democracy and Rights of Nations which is various disputed autonomous regions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_for_Democracy_and_Rights_of_Nations

Abkhazia

South Ossetia

Transnistria

Nagorno-Karabakh

 

Each as a disputed region within GUAM with the exception of Ukraine but that was checked indirectly by Crimea as is obviously apparent now to everyone who is paying the slightest of attention to what is going on.

Georgia / Abkhazia, South Ossetia

Azerbaijan / Nagorno-Karabakh

Moldova / Transnistria

 

This ping pong match has to do primarly with NATO since NATO has/had(?) a policy of not allowing nations to join who couldn't control their borders internally and externally. They group these states together in a mini-NATO so to speak since the disputed regions are Russian friendly. The exception was Ukraine because of that memorandum of understanding signed in 1994 that kept Ukraine neutral and out NATO in return for them giving up their nukes. Same reason Russia left Crimea alone and didn't influence it to join this little group because Ukraine's non-membership status of NATO was guaranteed as long as that memorandum was in effect.

 

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 12:08 | 4563521 messystateofaffairs
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As I watch this thing unfold I think this is not entirely about the west competing with Russia for global resources. The west cooperates with the forces who direct them because they benefit from the loot, a payment for helping their masters achieve their objectives. Russia has more experience about the end game these masters will lead them into, they have been there already via the Bolshevik revolution. Russians know that to enslave their people and own their resources Zionists must first infect their culture and economy via a myriad of interrelated techniques similar to those outlined in the Elders of Zion, but since no doubt updated. While Putin is an oligarch he is not a Zionist oligarch or a shabbos goy. Russians beleive he will protect them from the Zionist plague, allow them to make their own mistakes, and find their own character. Russian people are wide awake about what is at stake, Putin removed the Zionists from the Russian press. Meanwhile Americans are fast asleep in the Zionist train on tracks bound for perdition. They have yet to experience their rude awakening like the Russians already have but will do so when they awaken at their destination.Americans and Europeans are merely pawns executing the Zionist will, Russia knows this and is acting accordingly. The Chinese and some Arabs and BRICS are watching too. The Zionists have weakened their hosts and are concerned about their own safety at this time. Possibly they are worried about transitioning their Babylonian Money Magic system as the present one unwinds, but whatever it is, there is almost an air of urgency to the unfolding of events.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 12:16 | 4563586 Rising Sun
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Wake Ronnie Reagan up and get him to bankrupt the Russians again.

 

Stupid fucking useless Barry - fuck you fuck you fuck you!!!!!

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 12:28 | 4563653 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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And for all the people who hate jooooos some more color and history on the region itself. If you hear chirping you know what it is about.

http://www.jewishgen.org/bessarabia/

The JewishGen Bessarabia Special Interest Group (Bessarabia SIG) was created for those with Jewish roots in the region historically known as Bessarabia, an area now comprising the Moldova Republic and parts of Ukraine. Our research also covers Transnistria (Pridnestrovie), a small area adjacent to the eastern border of Bessarabia, formerly in Kherson and Podolia Gubernia of Russia and now part of the Moldova Republic / Transnistria self-proclaimed territory.

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Take a look at the current and historical maps it will become clear what other undercurrent maybe at play here. Including Ukraine/Moldova and indirectly Transnistria if the Russians can be dislodged from the region.

Think Bessarabia just with a different name after the Ukraine gets carved up and a little reconfiguration of borders...

 

 

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 12:53 | 4563861 yrbmegr
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Now, if somebody could get Taiwan to appear to vote for accession to China....

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 14:43 | 4564511 Finnman
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Finland would like to join USA.

Could you do annexation?

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 15:11 | 4564638 Independent
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The Finns are too independent to want to be run by the Nuland Tribe, you must either be a Zio Finn or an imposter.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 15:04 | 4564595 Ariadne
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Next will be Florida

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 16:00 | 4564883 Tartarus
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Transnistria is isolated at the moment because it is wedged between Moldova and Ukraine. Any Russian move would be difficult to defend in the current environment. So, they just need to split Ukraine in half from Kharkiv to Odessa and they will be good. Of course, such an action will mean civil war with Russian military intervention. Pretty sure that will make Kiev's IMF "rescue" a little more difficult to achieve. I imagine the euros will have enough trouble when far-right partisan militias begin flooding out of Ukraine.

Tue, 03/18/2014 - 17:30 | 4565211 Independent
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The Euros were hoping the far right would consume the RUS peoples but they may be in for a rude awakening if the neos turn west where there is a large angry population in Euro capitals who just need an inspiration.

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