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Ukraine Hikes Tensions Again, Says Russian Army Concentrated Near East Border For "Quick Invasion"
On the heels of reports that:
- *UKRAINE WON'T RECOGNIZE CRIMEA JOINING RUSSIA: INTERFAX
The Eastern Ukraine Kharkiv region's governor Baluta warns:
- *RUSSIAN ARMY CONCENTRATED NEAR ROADS FOR QUICK INVASION: BALUTA
- *RUSSIA BOOSTS ARMY PRESENCE AT UKRAINE BORDER: KHARKIV GOVERNOR
And all of this after Putin confirmed that West's sanctions are "irresponsible and aggressive and we will respond properly."
Baluta warns about Russian troops amassing: (Via Bloomberg,)
Russian military presence has grown in last 5 days, Ihor Baluta, governor of eastern Ukrainian region, says in interview.
Baluta also says:
Russian forces concentrated along highways for rapid invasion, ~15km from border
57 Russians denied crossing into Kharkiv region today as of 10am
No resistance to Ukraine’s troop deployment in Kharkiv
10 Russians involved in attempt to storm govt building March 16
Russia “is trying to create the situation unfolding now in the south here in eastern regions”
~25% of Kharkiv residents sympathize with separatists
An Ukraine's foreign minister makes it clear that they will not accept Crimea's annexation (via Interfax,)
Ukraine will not recognize the Autonomous Republic of Crimea's and Sevastopol's accession to the Russian Federation, nor will it recognize independence of the self-proclaimed Republic of Crimea, the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry said.
"We do not recognize and will never recognize either Crimea's so-called independence or the so-called agreement on its accession to the Russian Federation," Ukrainian Foreign Ministry spokesman Yevhen Perebyinis said at a news conference on Tuesday.
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doesnt russia/ukraine understand today is vix opex and mm's have to kill vix calls? stand down, at least for one more day so GS and friends can rake in a few hundred million in profits....
So we are going to keep going with this eh?
You don't call it a blitz for nothing.
A short, sharp shock and they'll never do it again, dig it?
The contest is a simple one...
How far can the tension be ratcheted before someone fires a shot.
The West would do well to remember what happened to Sakhalin.
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/02/05/839912...
So how can I make money from this? That's the only important thing here.
Judging by the recent Crimean vote, it wouldn't be a Russian "invasion", but rather a "liberation".
Only 60% of the Crimean population voted, the other 40% did not so to me it is
a surprise that the yes vote was only 97%. Perhaps Russia could liberate Europe
or the USA because Boris Krapaalot and his family prefer to be Russian. Putin on TV today was a complete
cock justifying his annexation of Crimea.
We are all Ukrainians now!
Vive la Ukraine!
Vive democracy!
down with Lavrov and Putin !
meet ihor..he dont take no orders from no woman...or obammy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvms4sP7CLk
He's Mr. Clean-up! Ihor for president 2016! Seriously, could he be any worse?
he is a fucking trip....how does one get molded like that...i bet his father was a hoot
Maybe they can called it Shock and Awe or something like Operation Freedom. You know, it's when you invade a sovereign country for no reason or push back an invader to reinstall a bogus "royal family" that controls all of the countries assets and oppresses its citizens.
If one is willing to believe the US backed the coup in Ukraine to begin with, these are just moves as the game continues. If, and I stress if, the US is behind this then bullshit sanctions are just a cover for something far more meaningful. All in the name of "democracy".
The other village idiot, McCain, is "reassuring" Poland that this situation isn't what it might appear to be (the Poles remember history, too) and if it is, "the US has your back". A dozen or so F-15 thrown in as a sign of good intentions. The Poles have good pilots.
There is no fucking way this is going away. Out of money, out of hope, looks like self destruction - think about it. This is how the end game is supposed to look. It's a big board game of fucking Risk. Now watch the Chinese.
I am a broken record here, the only one not trying to join Vlad's Man Club for Men. But the real story here is not exactly what the Vlad-worshippers think.
To a true Russian nationalist, Ukraine is not even really a country. It's just a wayward Russian province. To a true Russian nationalist, annexing only Crimea and one third of Ukraine in the east would be a disappointment. They want it all.
For Putin to now annex one third of the Ukraine is not necessarily an aggressive move or a show of strength (believe it or not). From the Russian perspective it might seem more like a historic compromise, ceding the Ukrainian-speaking portion to permanent independence and perhaps western influence or even western alliance.
If Putin is indeed the new Hitler, annexing more of Ukraine might be just a prelude to taking it all, and the Baltics, and Byelorus, and forcing Poland and the Balkans out of the EU (hello world war).
If Putin is aggressive but patient, prepared to leave some of history to the future, he will not annex more of Ukraine to keep open Russia's option to take it all.
If Putin is pragmatic and doesn't like messes on his doorstep, he might annex Eastern Ukraine to bring permanent stability to the region. Recall that Ukraine as now constituted is an ethnically divided, totally corrupt, bankrupt failed state and there is no realistic prospect for change any time soon. Rationalizing and right-sizing Ukraine's borders would set the stage for the purer western part to clean up its act and pursue a European course, while the eastern part nestles in the bosom of Mother Russia.
Somewhere in all this, you are trying to make a point. Distill.
The latest eruptions from the current Ukranian regime remind me of a scene in a comedy "Blazing Saddles" where a Black sheriff is holding a gun to his head.
+100
If Russia is a democracy they are not going to force anything on the neighbors. that would kill their own legitimacy. They are going to allow them the option to choose.
In the end Ukraine can not lift up its skirts and move over beside France, they are joined at the hip with Russia, permanently. So they better find a Ukrainian leadership that is going to face basic facts, because the west only wants an anti-Russian puppet, the Russians want a neighbor that is not a failed state basket-case living a shadow hand to mouth existence serving US interests as a mere pawn, and probable proxy battlefield. The truth is there are people in the West of Ukraine who are demanding the Euromaidan puppets in Kiev be overthrown.
Not sure how you have worked that one out, the only puppets in Kiev were the
ones that Putin put in (its all in the name). Ukraine has been buggered both politically
and economically by Kremlin stooges since 'independance'. Ukrainians look towards Europe
in the hope of a better life one without bribery and politicians/oligarch/bandits raping the country.
Ukraine wants out of Russia....Simples.
er ... the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence ... until you get there and find it's not. Ukraine is not in central Europe, it is in Russia's hip pocket, and it owes it a lot of money. Time to settle the bill or pay the price because Ukraine 'going' to Europe is a fantasy, Ukraine is not going any where. And let me tell you clearly, Ukraine is a pawn between big powers, and there is only one way this ends, with a pro-Russian govt in Kiev. I see you have had trouble voicing your views on zh apparently, but whatever you may wish for, the geography and strategic situation means Ukraine is in the miserable situation of being broke, and being a strategic pawn, and have an unelected coup rabble in Kiev, that is trying to make the fantasy work. And it won't.
It's a bitter pill, but Ukraine should never have given up the nukes. Their mere possession makes it impossible for big powers to treat you as an expendable pawn. I'm sorry, but Ukraine will be used, destroyed and then abandoned by NATO (to save their own skin) and then Russia will take control of what's left, anyway.
Given this is the strategic trajectory, the option exists to avoid a useless conflict.
Well its started Element, some borders and no nukes. I have no trouble voicing my opinion, you can take a choice
on whether to agree or not (literally more red than green !). I have had my own business in Ukraine and still have some interests
there so I have half an idea of what is happening. Since independance the country has not had the leadership to prosper. If it had by now it could
of held its own as a bridge between Russia and Europe instead of the bankrupt nation it has become requiring
financial help at a price. If Ukraine joins NATO that could be it for all of us, if it doesn't it could be the end of Ukraine.
A double bind for Ukrainians.
Why don't you go pick up a gun and fight for the Poles and the dual citizens in the American govt.? F McCain!
Yes, I've been wondering. Much of Western Ukraine was Polish, and the new NaZi thugs brag about their party's heritage of murdering half a million Poles. As the Western Ukraine descends into civil war, and as Russian troops by invitation move into the South and East, what will Poland do?
And what about Romania? Haven't heard anything about Romania lately either. They were a piece of work in the War, willing allies in Hitler's invasion of the Soviet Union, and participants in the holocaust. Their version of Communism was bizarre. What are their ambitions now? Take Moldova? Re-take Bessarabia, which was under Romanian rule from 1918 to 1944?
From ABC News yesterday:
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/romania-putin-creating-bla...
Um, are you aware the Soviets invaded Romania first, at the very start of ww2, that the soviets killed and deported thousands, and that's basically why they were "willing allies" in the German attack on the Bolsheviks?
The ABC analysis is corporate media anti-Putin horseshit.
NATO stirred the pot in Georgia, not Putin, ditto Ukraine, ditto Poland.
Your whole inane post is a clumsy effort to switch the roles of aggressor and defender, actor and reactor.
Moldova would be much better off with the Russians, one only has to look at Romania to see how the country is being run into the Ground by a corrupt govt and how its being enslaved by the IMF.
Good call on who was the aggressor 70 years ago. I stand corrected. But of course 70 years later both sides are still living inside their own stories about it.
From your final sentence I'm not sure you're getting where I'm coming from.
This entire clusterfuck is coming out of NATO's roiling of the pot. I quote the Pres of Romania not to agree with him that it's Putin's fault but for his voicing of a whole collection of ancient grievances and claims that are being detonated. My point is that NATO is forcing open Pandora's Box tio dubdue Russia, but the resulting meltdown - compounded with the economic chaos that is being triggered - may be beyond their ability to control.
It's not just red lines that are being crossed. It's tipping points.
dont for a second think the fed cares about stocks or anything else. they blow bubbles to serve their masters. they pop bubbles to serve their masters. in both scenarios, the uber wealthy get uberer wealthy and the poor get poorerer.
Well, at least the poor get to be uber-poor. It's kindof somthing...
It's your money or your life.
Close. Its their money and your life.
Both of you are wrong, they already Own you, your money and your life!
correct
Next up Ukrainian leaders threaten to hold their breath until they turn blue ,while kicking their feet on the floor, unless Mommy IMF and Daddy USA gives them a few billion dollars.
Hell, they didn't even have to do half that and Obama already had the COTUS (Checkbook Of The...) out and was scratching away. It's not his money after all...
The f,.....g stupid Ukranans can't understand that IMF money is a honey covered cactus which they are going to walking aroundcwith stuck up their posteriors.
Putin probably can't wait for the IMF to take on this bankrupt nation.
IMF is bankers helping bankers. People just carry the debt burden.
Too bad. WTF are you going to do about it Yevhen? I think you're going to find that getting into bed with the U.s comes with some heavy strings attached. She's a clingy bitch donchya know?
Given Moscow doesn't even recognise the 'govt' in Kiev, I suspect they won't feel too put-out by this.
No, the Russians are more likely to feel Put-in.
Methinks the West(Ukraine) doth protest too much. Farts in the wind. I don't see Putin giving an inch on this.
What's to worry. Didn't Obozo draw a red line somewhere in Eastern Ukraine.
I think they're still transporting it from Syria.
If Obozo had a line he already snorted it off the Resolute Desk...
Which is why we didn't send it back to England with the bust of Winston Chruchill.
come on, you think China looks at Russia and says. These guys know how to take territory because their navy cant function without Crimea, betcha there more like the nazis and dont really give a shit about islands
.
a billion people on an island bitchez
I do not see the problem. The current Ukrain leader Yatsenyuk is a good friend of Pintchuk, the sun in law of Mr Kuchma.
Mr Kuchma was the guy who run Ukraine from 1994 up to the orange revolution. So the Ukraine is still in the hands of the same corrupt clan. It seems Mr putin does not realize; nothing changed in Ukraine since 1994.
Mr Pintchuk was in 2005, during the Orange Revolution, the example of corruption of the past regime in Ukraine, now he is a big friend of the Clintons
I'd be very surprised if Mr. Putin did not realize this fully.
http://www.radioislam.org/islam/english/jewishp/ukraine/ukraine_jew_cont...
http://rt.com/news/ukraine-oligarch-rule-governors-512/
Guess they have the same dual-citizen problem we do in the USA
Has any country ever disowned a region? East and South Ukraine can make history by coming together and holding a referendum to kick out Kiev and West Ukraine from the country.
One of the dangers of imposing sanctions on Russia is it reduces deterrence and leverage, and makes Russia think, "Well, why make it go to waste, if they are going to sanction us, why not make it worthwhile?"
Well our illustrious band of retards in power will just keep poking the Bear thinking it's asleep. Fun starts when it wakes up. Not sure a black eye would show on Bammy but it is fun to watch him squirm.
I'm going to be waiting for Europe to capitulate and realize Washington isn't in their best interests ... it's coming ... maybe Mutti has to be shoved aside first as German leader, but loose the gas for a month or two and Mutti's foreign policy is going to look mighty suspect to German industry and worker. I'm fairly sure the Bear is prepared to do that to relegate Obama to persona non gratis in European foreign policy.
Who's Mutti? Sounds like the handle of a Stasi agent to me.
No, that handle of a particular Stasi agent was just "Erika" ...
Mutti is that fat bitch from Berlin.
So Ukraine's new neo-nazi US/EU puppet govt is throwing a shitfit because Russia wants to defend the rights of Russians.
And of course the US and EU are flabbergasted because they don't understand how any govt anywhere would ever defend the rights of anyone.
I almost wish Russia would bomb Ukraine's parliament building so the new "leaders" would shut the fuck up already. We don't care if Russia is getting ready for invasion. Tell us when it actually happens.
I don't even want to know even if there is an invasion. Really, I don't care.
Why would they do that, the morons in Kiev are doing a great job of shooting themselves in the foot. Let the Ukraine people see who has been running them into the ground, the same Jew Oligarchs that are appointed governors by the neo nazis paid by USA.
What will they do, threaten to join Barroso's Euro-Union? WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
oh noes! next thing you know Ukraine's newly 2 week trained national guard are going to invade Crimea and take it back. i'm sure Vlad will spew vodka through the nose, laughing so hard.
Who elected Baluta, again?
How many Academi mercs does he have to put down peaceful protests?
Because, they won't be enough if they start shooting ethnic Russians - indeed thats primarily why those troops are there.
academi they changed the name to sound more like a post modern ballet company rather than the child killing woman rapers they really are.
Ukraine will not recognize the Autonomous Republic of Crimea's and Sevastopol's accession to the Russian Federation, nor will it recognize independence of the self-proclaimed Republic of Crimea, the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry said.
Didn't he just call it "autonomous"?
Hopefully Yellen will not just taper more but raise Interest Rates in light of all of this. Then she can blame the Tank of the Market on Putin...
we all know they will never raise short term rates. But it should concern everyone on here that they continue to taper. That only means one thing.
fonz why are you talking about interest rates when clearly tyler is giving us the inside scoop on the end of the world? dont you know this post is about "news" regarding the imminent invasion of ukraine by putin???!!!
click, click, read, read, read, comment, comment, ca-ching ca-ching.----
Jazz dancing in the Mission soup kitchens?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpzaOnFX0ZQ
Give em Moldova and Belarus too...will quicken the new USSR collapse...again..
Western countries are not completely fucked with debt. All they would need to do is de-centralize the government, which the republicans have been wanting for centuries. They did this up in Canada. The federal government dumped its problems on the provinces, and the provinces adjusted accordingly. Some of them have very high taxes, some of them cut services, but they got their houses in order because provinces can't print money.
To the gents at Blackwater/Xi/Academi inside Ukraine.
Do you and your family have life insurance?
This shit is getting old, time for another topic Tyler. Wake me up Nukes start reigning down.
I know.
I'm fucking self-conscious of the fact we created this whole fucking mess for the World and if the "Nukes" start flying we'll sure as hell know who started it..."Again"!
You worry too much.
Obama has been practicing his Clint Eastwood stare and spitting on his dog.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V122Oc0m2Ic
Putin will pull a Kruschev.
Or maybe not.?
The_Ungrateful_Yid
9 weeks 3 days
Sockpuppet trolling to break up discussion.
Apparently wants to distract via discussion about Yids.
You guys really need to get a new MO.
Good thing the truce was not some kind of ploy.
"We do not recognize and will never recognize either Crimea's so-called independence or the so-called agreement on its accession to the Russian Federation," Ukrainian Foreign Ministry spokesman Yevhen Perebyinis said at a news conference on Tuesday.
Ok, great.
All this noise is for one purpose only, to get the American Military involved. The US media eats this shit up.
The EU, NATO and some deep pocket American Corporatists thought they could take advantage of Russia holding the Olympics and oust the democratically elected Viktor Yanukovych because he wouldn't go along with their plans.
So what do these morons do? They finance Nazi thugs to create a violent coup. Vlad looks at this and says, thank-you very much, I think it's time to annex Crimea.
One has to be asking oneself, are these people that stupid? Was this sanctioned by the government? From their response, it looks to me as if the administration was taken off guard, and has been runnung around trying to put a spin on a situation that no thinking person is willing to buy.
The EU has truly fucked themselves and are trying very hard to find a way out before they freeze to death next winter. The UN looks like a total jerk with their hypocracy. The UK is well, the UK. And the US is looking sleazier with each passing minute, and the public is finally waking up to the MSM's role in creating global conflict.
and the markets go up?
and PM's go down?
Help me understand.
"You keep using that word (markets). I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Maybe, Hollande, can travel to the Ukraine and advise on peaceful surrender.
Ahh the saviour of the EU, a horny little French prick on a moped getting some of that putang which if he wasn't prime minister he could only jerk off to looking at the pages of a French film magazine.
Kiev says "We Want War III"
Are red-blooded American patriots going to take this humiliation lying down?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/multimedia/image/obama_twitterjpg/
Looks better on him than his golf outfit.
He almost looks like someone in power.
Please to meet you, hope you guess my name.
Do you lay traps for troubadors who get killed before they reach whatever may be the target of the day?!
On Mice and Men and on the dangerous game of Predators using the MSM to defend their universal empires :
The current Putin/US standoff is the signal that the world oligarchy, those who come to Davos, are now not on the same page. As when push comes to shove its every Man/regional oligarch for himself.
That's where the MEDIA spin comes in to heat up the official propaganda machine on all sides of the emerging fault lines.
Witness the new angle of Pax Americana MSM now spinning that the WORST CRIME commited in 2008 was not the betrayal of free market capitalism by the Paulson PUT (TARP) that saved the official TBTF corrupted banks; prime movers in the previous scam of concocting a derivate soup so toxic that it brought down the reserve currency and its Temple-- until TPTB decided to spread the financial disease to ALL AND SUNDRY ON SEVEN CONTINENTS.
No, no, no it was NOT Paulson and Bush who instigated this push over the abyss of real world economy and subsequent QE spending under Ben/Timmy/Obammy, left holding the "Rosemary baby" of GWB's great game of Reaganista/NWO laissez faire.
"Print to infinity" then became the mantra and competitive monetary policy and carry trade ZIRP fed speculation to bring down the fragile Club Med PIIGS of Eurozone; the new game in WS-HF shadowbanking town. We were sitting on the Titanic, all the while these spoon fed "greed is good" bred mavericks were drilling holes into the hull and the "Ben and Draghi CB pumping show" were dumping buckets of fresh money on to the market like drunken sailors dumping sea water out into the sea from the ship's torn under-belly.
Now in the winter of our discontent as the economy teetotals from pillar to post like a ship without a rudder or helmsman, there is a new tune in DC/WS tinsel town sung by the red/blue neo-cons : ITS ALL PUTIN's FAULT... since 2008 :
Read ALL about it here : Russia Tries To Get China To Sell GSEs - Business Insider
Now that Putin is devil incarnate in his Ukraine plays the neo-cons have stamped him evil doer number 1 RETROACTIVELY and made good ole Paulson the unwitting victim of an evil manipulation of globalisation's friends turned into mutant aliens...Yikes...
Hillary Clinton deserves a Nobel prize for spinning such a tale of two empires to save Pax Americana from its own slide down total corruption alley on the devil's route to the river of no return.
With freedom lovers like these who needs any enemies.