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Ukraine Announces Joint US Military Exercises As Obama Rules Out "Military Incursion" - Recap Of The Day's Events

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With the story of the day undoubtedly Yellen's first (bungled) press conference, it was easy to forget that the second coming of the Cold War is raging in the Ukraine. For those curious what they may have missed, here is a summary of the major events that took place in the troubled country this afternoon. Highlights from AP, AFP, Reuters, WSJ, Bloomberg, RIA and Interfax.

Obama rules out 'military excursion' in Ukraine

President Barack Obama ruled out U.S. military involvement in Ukraine on Wednesday, emphasizing diplomacy in the U.S. standoff with Russia over Crimea.

 

"We are not going to be getting into a military excursion in Ukraine," Obama told KNSD, San Diego's NBC affiliate, in an interview. "There is a better path, but I think even the Ukrainians would acknowledge that for us to engage Russia militarily would not be appropriate and would not be good for Ukraine either," Obama said.

Ukraine to hold military exercises with US, UK

Russian forces seized military installations across the disputed Crimean Peninsula on Wednesday, prompting Ukraine’s security chief to announce that his country will hold joint military exercises with the United States and Britain.

 

U.S. Vice President Joe Biden was in Lithuania, trying to reassure nations along Russia’s borders who were terrified by the sight of an expansion-minded Moscow.

 

"We’re in this with you, together," Biden said.

Ukraine Readies Plan to Evacuate Troops From Crimea

Ukraine's government is preparing to evacuate its remaining military personnel and their families from the breakaway region of Crimea now that Russia has moved to annex the territory.

 

Andriy Parubiy, the secretary of Ukraine's National Security and Defense Council, didn't provide details on the mechanisms or timing of the plan, however.

 

"We're working on a plan to quickly and effectively move not only the military personnel, but first of all their family members, to continental Ukraine," Mr. Parubiy told a media briefing in Kiev. He added that 25,000 places had been reserved for such transfers altogether.

 

A Ukrainian Defense Ministry spokesman in Crimea, however, said Wednesday evening that he had received no word yet of any order to evacuate.

 

Early in the day, pro-Russian forces in Crimea had stormed Ukraine's naval headquarters and allegedly detained the base's commander, sparking an ultimatum from Ukraine's acting president that the country would take "appropriate measures" if he and others weren't released.

... The ultimatum deadline has come and gone, and so far nobody has been released to the best of our knowledge.

Russia will respond in kind to U.S. sanctions - deputy foreign minister

Moscow will respond in kind to U.S. sanctions imposed on Russian officials over the Crimea dispute and is considering other steps if Washington escalates tensions, Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said on Wednesday.

 

On Monday, the United States and the EU announced sanctions on a handful of officials from Russia and Ukraine accused of involvement in Moscow's seizure of Ukraine's Crimea region, most of whose 2 million residents are ethnic Russians.

 

Washington has threatened further sanctions while Russian lawmakers raced to ratify a treaty making Crimea part of Russia by the end of the week.

 

"We are looking at a broad range of responsive measures. They can be identical measures regarding certain lists of American officials - not necessarily representatives of the administration ... who have influenced American policies," Ryabkov was quoted as saying by Interfax.

 

"There is also the possibility of passing asymmetrical measures, that means steps which, let's say ... won't go unnoticed in Washington," he said.

Russia warns could change stance at Iran talks over Crimea

Russia threatened late Wednesday that it could alter its position at Iranian nuclear talks in response to pressure from the European Union and United States over its seizure of Crimea.

 

"We would not like to use these talks as an element of a stakes-raising game taking into account the moods in various European capitals, in Brussels and Washington," deputy foreign minister Sergei Ryabkov told the Interfax news agency.

 

Ryabkov was speaking in Vienna after the latest round of Iranian talks involving Russia. Those at the talks included the EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton and Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif, who said he saw "signs" a long-term nuclear deal could be reached.

 

Under an interim agreement Iran struck with the six powers in November, the two sides are aiming for a long-term deal by a July 20 target date. But Rybakov warned that Russia, that joined the West in urging Tehran to curtail its nuclear activities, could shift its stance, saying it considered its "historic" role in Crimea more important.

 

"But if we are forced, here we will take the path of counter-measures, because when it comes down to it, the historic value of what has happened in recent weeks and days from the point of view of restoring historical justice and reuniting Crimea and Russia is incomparable with what we are doing" on Iran, he said.

 

"At the end of the day, the choice and the decision is down to our colleagues in Washington and Brussels," Ryabkov said.

Russia Sounds Alarm on Economy as West Starts With Sanctions

Russia’s economy is showing signs of a crisis, the government in Moscow said as the U.S. and the European Union announced sanctions over its plan to annex the Crimea region from Ukraine.

 

“The situation in the economy bears clear signs of a crisis,” Deputy Economy Minister Sergei Belyakov said in Moscow yesterday. The cabinet needs to refrain from raising the fiscal burden on companies, which would be the “wrong approach,” he said. “Taking money from companies and asking them afterward to modernize production is illogical and strange.”

 

Even before the standoff with the West, the worst since the Cold War, Russia’s economy was facing the weakest growth since a 2009 recession as consumer demand failed to make up for sagging investment. President Vladimir Putin signed a treaty today on Crimea joining Russia, signaling his defiance of Western sanctions. Russia won’t seek to further split Ukraine, he said in the Kremlin.

 

The Ukrainian crisis is putting a strain on Russia’s $2 trillion economy, which expanded 1.3 percent in 2013 after 3.4 percent the previous year. Last year’s

growth was “insufficient” and the current outlook and government forecasts “can’t satisfy us,” Putin said March 12.

Russia to cover Crimea's $1.5 billion budget deficit with state funds

Russia will cover Crimea's estimated 55 billion rouble ($1.53 billion) budget deficit with funds from the federal budget, Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov said on Channel 1 state television on Tuesday.

 

"The volume of the (budget) deficit of Crimea and Sevastopol is about 55 billion roubles," Siluanov said in an interview televised by Channel 1.

 

"The whole sum will definitely be covered with federal budget."

Switzerland Halts Trade Talks With Russia, Former Soviet Republics

Switzerland has frozen negotiations on a free trade deal with Russia, the head of the country's economic affairs department said Wednesday, a decision he linked to Moscow's annexation of part of Ukraine's Crimea region.

 

In an interview with Swiss broadcaster SRF Radio, Johann Schneider-Ammann said the talks with Russia, as well as the former Soviet republics of Belarus and Kazakhstan, had been halted. Mr. Schneider-Ammann, who is a member of Switzerland's seven-person cabinet, blamed the increasing crisis in Ukraine and the annexation of Crimea after a Sunday referendum for the halt.

 

"In this uncertain situation we cannot pretend as if nothing has happened," Mr. Schneider-Ammann said in the interview. He called the freeze the "first formal sign" of Switzerland's concern over the situation in Ukraine, saying the Alpine country wanted a trade deal with Russia "but not at any price."

 

The halt of the talks also applies to Switzerland's partners in the European Free Trade Association, which includes Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein, which were also due to take part in the next round of negotiations in April, a spokesman for the Swiss Economics Dept. said.

Germany says Rheinmetall can't deliver combat simulator to Russia

The German government said on Wednesday that defence contractor Rheinmetall's plan to deliver combat simulation kit to Russia was unacceptable in light of the diplomatic showdown with Moscow over its military occupation of Crimea.

 

The economy ministry, asked by Reuters about Rheinmetall's intention to honour contractual obligations to deliver about 100 million euros ($139 million) worth of technology to a Russian combat training centre, said it was in contact with the firm.

 

"The German government considers the export of the combat simulation centre to Russia unacceptable in the current circumstances," the ministry said in a statement to Reuters.

 

"The government is in contact with the company. At the moment no such export is foreseen," said the ministry.

 

Rheinmetall had said earlier on Wednesday that it intended to complete the delivery of the equipment, which was ordered about two years ago. The company said it had no further orders outstanding from Russia or Ukraine.

Russia poised to react to Kiev's new visa regime

Moscow will decide whether to introduce visas for Ukrainians visiting Russia after it is officially informed of Kiev's new visa regime for Russians, Russian state news agency RIA reported a source at Russia's Foreign Ministry as saying on Wednesday.

 

Ukrainian security chief Andriy Parubiy said earlier in the day that Ukraine's Foreign Ministry had been given instructions to introduce visas for Russians visiting Ukraine, as tensions rise between the two neighbours

European leaders seek ways to curb dependence on Russian gas

European leaders will seek ways to cut their multi-billion-dollar dependence on Russian gas at talks in Brussels on Thursday and Friday, while stopping short of severing energy ties with Moscow for now.

 

Russia's seizure of Ukraine's Crimea region has revived doubts about whether the European Union should continue to rely on Russia for nearly a third of its gas, providing Gazprom with an average of $5 billion per month in revenue. Some 40 percent of that gas is shipped via Ukraine.

 

EU powerhouse Germany is among those with particularly close energy links to Russia and has echoed comments from Gazprom, Russia's top natural gas producer, that Russia has been a reliable supplier for decades.

 

EU officials said the current Ukraine crisis, however, had convinced many in Europe that Russia was no longer reliable and the political will to end its supply dominance had never been greater. "Everyone recognises a major change of pace is needed on the part of the European Union," one EU official said on condition of anonymity.

 

"At the back of people's minds, there will always be the doubt that if the relationship goes sour, Russia has that weapon and it's not something it should have," another official said, referring to Russia's option of severing supplies.

As alternatives to imported gas, the Brussels talks will debate the EU's "indigenous supplies", which include renewable energy and shale gas.

Russia shares "fears" about Ukraine humanitarian situation with UNHCR

Russia has "shared [its] fears" about the humanitarian situation in Ukraine with the UN High Commissioner for Refugees, the head of the Russian Federal Migration Service said on Wednesday.

 

"I won't keep it secret that we have shared our fears with the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees. Our fears were understood to a certain extent, and a certain form of interaction with that organization has begun," Konstantin Romodanovsky told reporters in Moscow.

 

"I think that by combined efforts we will minimize the problems that the unstable situation in Ukraine may cause us," he said.

And that's a wrap.

 

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Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:15 | 4569737 Obama_4_Dictator
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Well, at least we won't be going to war right now

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:21 | 4569757 Pure Evil
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"We’re in this with you, together," Biden said.

 

I wonder if that's what all rapists say to their victims?

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:32 | 4569775 Independent
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What the heck why are we playing around with WW3, cant we just make Ukraine a federation and put in a clause like no standing army or NATO, like they did with Japan and then everyone can go to their European summer vacation spots??

Now I have to go to Torrent and download a bunch of plans for a nuclear shelter and spend my nice summer weekends building a freakin shelter cause some bozos in govt cant get along.

I am freakin sick and tired of hide and shelter helter skelter, duck and cover shoot your Russian brother, just so some rooster politicians can get on a podium and threaten other people.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:35 | 4569800 Payne
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Ukraine will do anything to get in the headlines.  They will consider it a joint excercise if they were on the phone with Obama while running on the treadmill.  Obama will only send in forces to protect Libya oil for dollars programs, or Piracy for hire.  Great day to be an american soldier.  At least we could pretend we weren't mercs.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:39 | 4569820 gmrpeabody
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""We’re in this with you, together," Biden said."

That's rich..., rotflmao.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:52 | 4569872 TahoeBilly2012
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I am thinkin' people in  those baltic States are sayin "who is this cretin?"....yeesh, please don't show up in my town and don't touch my children please, with that dumb fucking smile.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:52 | 4569873 HardlyZero
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It's...for the resources.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 20:06 | 4570032 Looney
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All those newer-er-er NATO states should consider another Biden’s advice – “fire the family's double-barreled shotgun in the air, right after you insert it in your anus”.  ;-) Oy?  ;-)

Looney

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 20:50 | 4570206 Abi Normal
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Time to send in John Rambo...oh wait, he's already there, Putin!

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:01 | 4569910 Gringo Viejo
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Obama is a cunt. eom

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:59 | 4570046 Looney
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+7 for "EOM", Viejo-Geezer, and +24.5 for the "cunt". You've just made my... century? ;-)

Looney

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 22:03 | 4570524 SSN715
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x1,000

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:03 | 4569914 agent default
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""We’re in this with you, together," In spirit.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:54 | 4570045 fiddy pence haf...
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i.e. "we got you in this shitload of trouble, now it's your turn getting yourselves out"

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:58 | 4569894 Kirk2NCC1701
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We're not Mercs. We're Professionals!

Mercs usually work the highest bidder. Our goys/guys work for far less.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 20:52 | 4570217 Abi Normal
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If you're a true professional you come at a much higher price, not less my friend!  Supply and demand...

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:22 | 4569762 BlackChicken
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"We are not going to be getting into a military excursion in Ukraine,"

Fucking LIAR...

We will just provoke the hell out of them until they make a mistake; then bombs away. We have a financial disaster to cover up.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:34 | 4569794 Not Too Important
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Don't forget needing to cover up the Fukushima disaster. The US is beginning to see the waves and waves of cancers that are going to spread across the land for tens of thousands of years - well, we'll all be gone by then - and O-care isn't going to cover cancer treatments.

Wait till the Moms of the US find out there's no cancer care for their kids. Hell, the milk is all saturated with radiation now, and climbing. Milk with your cereal, Johnny? Honey, get the baby another bottle of milk, would you? What's that on her neck? Why won't she stop crying?

Got radiogenic leukopenia?

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 21:00 | 4570231 Abi Normal
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not too uptodate...I just read several reports recently, there is no surge in radiation levels out west, in the air or water, Ill try to dig them up...not saying Fuku is not bad now!  Just not as bad as you are saying, yet

 

EDIT:  

http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/energy/stories/how-much-radiation-from-...

 

http://www.sfgate.com/science/article/Fukushima-radiation-could-reach-Pa...

 

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/03/15/scientists-expect-traces-fukus...

 

Hey, there are other places yes, these I just googled.

 

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 21:47 | 4570462 Not Too Important
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Dig into the Infant Mortality Rate numbers after 3/11. You'll find hundreds of thousands of infants have died across North America above the rate before 3/11.

It kills the little ones first. If you have young children, or young grandchildren, hold them tight every chance you get. They're next.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 22:16 | 4570574 caustixoid
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(Sorry for continuing this off-topic thread but) Do you have any references re: increase in child mortality?

There was a sudden "Spike in Sudden Infant Death Syndrome in BC" in 2011.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/spike-in-b-c-sudden-infan...

"B.C.'s chief coroner is urging parents to use safe sleep practices in light of a spike in the number of sudden infant deaths across the province this year.

There have been 21 sudden infant deaths in B.C. so far this year, while there were 16 sudden infant deaths for all of 2010, Lisa Lapointe said Tuesday.

She said the reason for the increased number of deaths is all the more mysterious because health authorities, family doctors and public health nurses have kept up efforts to educate parents."

That's the beauty of radiation (if you're a government in denial) - you can never prove it killed anyone other than those exposed to the reactor core. 

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:44 | 4569841 disabledvet
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Fightclub "goes geopolitical."
how are the ratings? "through the roof as well"?
We all say one thing...and then we say it LOUDER.

And to think people have the temerity to have a few questions here.

Or do they?
Is it me or have we already skipped the "who's side are you on" and gone straight to "weapons of choice" and "first blood drawn from the torso"?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIF8qouivIU

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 21:51 | 4570477 Johnny Cocknballs
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Fight Club was, largely, about cutting through the bullshit.

The Ukrainian coup, and how it has been presented in the obviously well-controlled mainstream media - is bullshit.

You either understand that, or you don't.

If this neocon/ziopath occupied government felt it could bomb and send mercenaries into Crimea at will, it would.  Ivan prevents that, and that means, for all Ivan's faults, it is good and wise to hope that Ivan can block the Global Banking Empire in at least part of the globe.

Now stop being a cunt.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 22:33 | 4570667 centerline
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Be careful though... is just another illusion of choice.  Frying pan versus fire.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:45 | 4569848 Flagit
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"We are not going to be getting into a military excursion in Ukraine,"

Fucking LIAR...

 

i think the fact he said it seals the deal.

NOW im a little worried.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:49 | 4570027 BlackChicken
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Agreed.

My Grandmother use to say "Never believe a rumor until its been officially denied," the war games are a perfect cover for bringing lots of weapons and boots to the area waiting for someone to blink.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:55 | 4570044 CrashisOptimistic
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Well, the probable oil reserves are offshore Crimea, and Obama just awarded those to Putin.

The rest may have none.  This is the same reason Taiwan is largely safe.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:04 | 4569918 Kirk2NCC1701
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Provocation till they throw the first punch -- the Sucker punch -- IS the American way.

It buys cover/pretext with the gullible and uninformed masses.

IMHO, the Anglo-American alliance is even worse than Imperialist Zionism. If that's possible.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:07 | 4569929 BTCTalks
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He didn't say anything about an INcursion.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:15 | 4569947 perchprism
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You are exactly right.  NOTHING that proceedeth out from that fucking LIAR's mouth bears any semblance to the truth.  When I read that, I knew we'd be seeing some sort of military adventure into Ukraine.  Bank on it.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:26 | 4569768 Kayman
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I take it that Ukraine will be holding joint military exercises with the U.S. and U.K. in Kansas.

I don't think Obama and his stooge Biden would actually send troops to the Ukraine. Right ? Right?... Oh fuck it. We invaded Iraq, didn't we.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:46 | 4569845 HardlyZero
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Bosphorus and Montreux Convention limit submarines and aircraft carriers in the Black Sea.   Helicopers are on ships are OK (hence the French helicoper carriers Russia is buying).

Maybe they would 'fly-in' troops and airplanes...but that would be expensive.

Looks correct...a simulated effort and a vacation for the top leadership in Kansas.

or maybe they could overfly Turkey and have limited air-time.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:06 | 4569922 Not Too Important
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As Russia shuts down all the escape routes for American forces in Afghanistan. We sure as hell aren't going to exit through Pakistan.

There are so many ways for Russia to fuck us, seriously fuck us, and we have no leverage at all with them.

I think the Squid and the Squidlings are getting nervous. Their '500 year plan' is going to hell, they've lost all support with their host countries, and their 'enemies' don't have to do anything more than just walk away to destroy the lot of them.

Are we going to attack nuclear-equipped countries if they just walk away and don't do business with us anymore? While our economies collapse under our own weight?

What happens when the Squid and the Squidlings start to reach Death's door? Will they take us all with them?

That's where we're at. Who replaced all those fired nuke missile officers? Anyone know? Are they even Americans? Nothing in the news at all since they were purged.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 21:09 | 4570285 lakecity55
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they were replaced by dual nationals, i hope it's 'kosher.'

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 21:59 | 4570505 Johnny Cocknballs
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After Fischer is smoothly approved, AIPAC, the ADL et al will be more open and vocal about appointing more dual nationals in high places. Although, the Chertoffs and Emmanuels already told me that ZOG isn't a "canard" even though wikipedia, predictably, dismisses it as "anti-semitic" "conspiracy theory" instead of anti-foreign loyalty cunts who dominated the Obama and Bush and to a large extent Clinton white houses.

Richard Perle, amongst others, should have been in jail - yet they were appointed to high levels of Bush's government.  You better believe there was a deal between the Bushies and the Jewish neocons  {and again, most Jews aren't neocons, but most neocons were Jews - neoconservatism is a species of militarism with Israel at the center of the geopolitical universe}.

 

Remember Chas Freeman, and how the Jewish/Israel Lobby derailed him because he wasn't deemed sufficiently in thrall to a tiny foreign state of 8 million people.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:02 | 4569912 mendolover
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Yeah we did.  Like a bully waiting for his next victim at the school bus stop.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 21:06 | 4570270 lakecity55
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The total of troops involved is about 1300.

ther is a story at stars and stripes.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:27 | 4569769 SilverRhino
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>> President Barack Obama ruled out U.S. military involvement in Ukraine on Wednesday, emphasizing diplomacy in the U.S. standoff with Russia over Crimea.

1) He's worried that the USA/EU might get it's collected asses kicked.  Not that he actually gives a shit about human lives and especially US military deaths

2) He's utterly failing to start a new bankster war.  I wonder how long until TPTB decide he is useless and martyr (I mean assassinate) him for the cause??   

 

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:35 | 4569803 Not Too Important
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Biden'll do it, with his new VP, McCain.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:46 | 4570018 NOTW777
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jumping jacks 

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 21:35 | 4570409 TheReplacement
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Like the Korea's, Taiwan-China, Japan-China-NorK, and a whole host of other places there's a crisis to be used just sitting in Ukraine.  It just depends on if either side thinks it has a clear advantage.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 22:44 | 4570714 HardAssets
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"That struts and frets his hour upon the stage. And then is heard no more. It is a tale. Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury. Signifying nothing. "

 

http://usawatchdog.com/collapse-and-systemic-failure-at-all-levels-comin...

 

http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/

 

 

 

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 23:59 | 4571018 Buck Johnson
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Obama and the US blinked, there is no way they where going to war for the Ukraine no way. 

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:19 | 4569749 IridiumRebel
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Ukraine is solved. Back to gold MonkeyHammer, please. Must. Keep. Stacking.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:35 | 4569798 HardlyZero
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Only question is how large the IMF and EU bailouts, and if the bailouts occur before or after Ukraine EU membership.

This will be somewhat of a forced marriage for the EU...but the remaining Ukrainians will luv it.

Will Putin get excited if Ukraine becomes part of EU...will Ukraine join NATO ...that might be the 'breaking point' for Putin.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 21:42 | 4570440 Wahooo
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Putin might let the ukes go for the right price. And if he wants it, he'll get it and we'll be fucked again.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:28 | 4569766 CrashisOptimistic
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"The Ukrainian crisis is putting a strain on Russia’s $2 trillion economy, which expanded 1.3 percent in 2013 after 3.4 percent the previous year. Last year’s

growth was “insufficient” and the current outlook and government forecasts “can’t satisfy us,” Putin said March 12."

Russia gets about $265 billion/year for oil (this doesn't include natgas).  Obviously that is over 10% of GDP.

So an increase of 9% in oil's price to $120 for Brent would by itself add about $26.5 billion in revs to Russia, and grow the economy an extra 1.5% added to other growth in GDP.  Should get them comfortably to 3%.  With the delightful side effect of inflicting harm on their enemies.

So a few snipers in Nigeria and Libya should take care of that easily.

Problem solved.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:36 | 4569807 Kayman
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"Russia’s $2 trillion economy".  Since 90% of the U.S. economy is "services"- government, financial, health, etc. it makes you wonder if the Russian economy is actually a lot closer in size than it first appears.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:31 | 4569773 tony wilson
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Ukraine Announces Joint US Military Exercises.

 

so we have ukraine nazis being trained by jews and catholic cia types who have just come from syria where they was pretending to be islamic organ eaters.

state dept normalcy

confused you should not be just read some old 1970s books by anthony c sutton or eutace mullins.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:35 | 4569795 Independent
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More than happy Tony after I build my nuclear shelter this summer, it will make for good readings when its too 'HOT' to be on the planetary surface...

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 22:36 | 4570684 centerline
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"the truth is stranger than fiction"...  this quote is the gift that keeps on giving.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:30 | 4569777 d_taco
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It seems the US tacktics is to turn every region into chaos. 

I think we in Europe have to thank McCain and Mrs Nuland for their graet effort to turn Europe in the next pile of shit.

 

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:07 | 4569928 agent default
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I think the EU has beaten the US to the pile of shit part.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 21:44 | 4570446 Wahooo
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Thank you. I was wondering what our strategy is.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:30 | 4569778 d_taco
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It seems the US tacktics is to turn every region into chaos. 

I think we in Europe have to thank McCain and Mrs Nuland for their graet effort to turn Europe in the next pile of shit.

 

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:38 | 4569814 SpanishGoop
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Like if Europe needed any help doing that.

 

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:55 | 4569886 disabledvet
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see comment below and to above "indeed."

i'm really not worried about what the Fed chair did/did not say. nor do i think is the market.
Israel can hit Iran any day now...that might include the use of nuclear weapons actually.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXzNo0vR_dU

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:40 | 4569958 Not Too Important
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Putin'll be putting in S-400's in Iran any day now. Enough of an umbrella to cover Syria - and anyone else that wants in.

And enough Russian Sunburn-equivalents to destroy the shipping lanes, and anyone stupid enough to send in a fleet to protect them.

And you know Putin's got a serious hardon for Bandar. What do you call it when you don't have too many company execs in one location, for security reasons? Anyone think Bandar is at the top of anyone's guest list now? Even his own family has to have second thoughts about having him around.

All Putin has to do is ring his 'sphere of influence' with a shitload of missles, turn off the gas and look East and South. Nothing else.

 

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:47 | 4570022 Omen IV
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you're right - overt and covert is coming - Putin will move on Bandar and SA to keep them busy with fire fights - Al QUEIDA will work for anyone

Nuland will have a new op assignment soon - she got too high visibility this time around -

Bourne Identity has new script

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 02:17 | 4571317 Volkodav
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I think I read Bandar was replaced, demoted.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:56 | 4569888 CrashisOptimistic
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Chaos suppresses oil consumption.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:29 | 4569779 Whoa Dammit
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We're doomed. 

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:18 | 4569953 disabledvet
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_and_security-building_measures

"the internet as inflammatory."
this place is a case study as to why conflict is not only likely but inevtiible "and muy rapido"...and why such behavior has already been war gamed as well.

this is not about situational awareness but INFORMATIONAL awareness and whether or not we're even on the same sheet of music here.

I'm not sure if i can set my watch by when this thing will "kick off" but one look at the clowns at this site says "i bet i can give a pretty good estimate" as you people are pretty much the typical dipshit.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:30 | 4569781 Runs-With_Toast
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Russia to redirect trade elsewhere in case of EU-US sanctions. The world is not monopolar, we will concentrate on other economic partners,http://rt.com/business/russia-eu-us-sanctions-742/
Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:30 | 4569783 roadhazard
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So anybody in the world that thinks the US was going to get all stabby over Crimea except dumbass McCain raise your hand.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:48 | 4569861 Freddie
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Well how many USN sailors died thanks to McCain's old man selling out the USS Liberty?  How many died on the USS Foresstal when Wet Start Johnny may have had some involvement?

McCain and Obama are the same Soros puppets.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:26 | 4569964 Not Too Important
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Speaking of USN sailors:

'Wife of Navy Sailor: Our 1-year-old has brain cancer and spinal cancer resulting from Fukushima exposure — Wheelchair-bound Navy Sailor: It’s now affecting my arms and my hands, everything is still progressing'

http://enenews.com/wife-of-navy-sailor-our-1-year-old-has-brain-cancer-a...

Never forget - any of them.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 21:41 | 4570432 TheReplacement
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So who else is relieved?  And when McCain is involved it becomes McStabby.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:34 | 4569792 Philalethian
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Yaddie fuckin yah-yah. Blah blah blah.

What is it really all about?

"The Value Of Oil And Gas Under Federal Lands Is $128 Trillion WITH A T!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7o579JF2cE

Who owns America?

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:38 | 4569812 Uncle Remus
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And the value of the water to get it out?

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:29 | 4569977 general ambivalent
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You don't need water. Fracturing the depths releases ELECTROLYTES into the fields. All you need.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 21:17 | 4570316 Uncle Remus
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Wow.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 22:57 | 4570764 Hephaestus
Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:43 | 4569835 Not Too Important
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And they will destroy every last ounce of drinkable water to get to it. Poisonous agriculture, water taps that light up, showers that cause bleeding open sores.

Oh, and that failing nuclear storage facility in New Mexico that is bleeding plutonium all over the Southwest? With 100's of thousands of gallons of nuclear waste - the worst the world has to store - that makes Hanford look like a children's water park? It sits right over the Ogalalla Aquifer. All that transuranic waste should be hitting the country's agricultural water table in about 3, 2, 1 . . .

Good thing WIPP is surrounded by hundreds of fracking wells. All the earthquakes and sunken caverns should stabilize everything . . .

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 21:18 | 4570321 Abi Normal
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You mean the taps that have been lighting up since history began, man you are a fear mongerer aren't ya libtard!  Do some research, it occurs NATURALLY.  I don't recall there being many fracking wells in the 1800's...you'll find the story if you want to...

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:44 | 4569840 Kayman
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"The Value Of Oil And Gas Under Federal Lands Is $128 Trillion WITH A T!"  And the value of all the minerals on the moon is $1000 trillion. You own a shovel don't you...

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 20:00 | 4570064 Seize Mars
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Philalethian

I don't know who owns America. But I do know who is behind gun control:

http://thezog.wordpress.com/who-is-behind-gun-control/

Somebody who is trying to disarm you is not your friend.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 20:47 | 4570198 Independent
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LOL its the Zio Nazis, who would of thought.  Didn't the Nazis do the same thing by grabbing the guns, and weren't they funded by the Tribe?

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 22:34 | 4570671 Seize Mars
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Growing up I never would have believed it. But increasingly, it appears to be the case.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:40 | 4569819 HardlyZero
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Moscow signals concern for Russians in Estonia

Reuters.

 

amid the growing Crimea crisis, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania - which like Ukraine were all parts of the old Soviet Union - have expressed growing apprehension over Moscow's intentions.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:40 | 4569823 Emergency Ward
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Cold War Instigator-in-Chief Obama is trying to provoke a hot one....

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 21:20 | 4570341 Abi Normal
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bwahahhhaha, as much as i dislike bathhouse barry, that is a joke!  I think pukin' is provoking here...but i do appreciate the sentiment, as we could add that to the list of treasonous acts.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:43 | 4569824 new game
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joke, provoked conflict lied about as if russia forced the circumstance that precipitated the vote.

can not believe what lies the msm provoke upon non-critical thinking stupids. like the border states are livin g in fear of russia-utter and complete bullshit.

demonized by pure bullshit.

i am quite confident the majority over there view us as the bad guys...

as well we are again - fucking sad...

nsa, msm, fed - pure fucking evil statist arms of sociopathic evil muther fuks...

wew, almost went to far and said someting i shouldn't have.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:43 | 4569825 Chuck Knoblauch
Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:43 | 4569836 css1971
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America won't get into a military conflict in Europe? Phew, glad that's solved then.

 

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:44 | 4569837 Soul Glow
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Europeans should be praying for a warm winter next year.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:50 | 4569868 Independent
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LOL Soul if thing go at this rate, the nukes should make for summer like conditions this coming winter and then the dust in the skies will make for severe winter like conditions the following summer ;)

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 21:44 | 4570448 TheReplacement
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But then the poles will reverse and we'll be right back on track.  BTFD!

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:51 | 4569875 Squids_In
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Obama rules out military incursions. Biden rules in joint exercisies. I wonder if these guys are even talking to each other. Or perhaps there is just a very a bad reception down there at the 11th hole sand trap.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:56 | 4569881 Son of Captain Nemo
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"We are not going to be getting into a military excursion in Ukraine," Obama told KNSD, San Diego's NBC affiliate, in an interview. "There is a better path, but I think even the Ukrainians would acknowledge that for us to engage Russia militarily would not be appropriate and would not be good for Ukraine either," Obama said...

 

From Dmitri Kiselyov to President Remus' Press Secretary "The Carney"...

Bitches!!!

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:55 | 4569887 Pressfiretostart
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The Mother Bear is re-united with its cub http://topwar.ru/uploads/posts/2014-03/thumbs/1394941667_cfxpqsqbyu0.jpg

Mother Russia always wins:) 

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:01 | 4569909 Son of Captain Nemo
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Oh my but it's going to be interesting to see how Obammy salvages face on this one!...

Maybe he'll declare it NATO's job with Israel's involvement like the invasion and occupation of Libya?

You know those Israeli commandos are pretty daggon tough?!!!

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 21:48 | 4570464 TheReplacement
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Why would he have to try to save face?  He's not running again.  Enough people love him like a rockstar and don't pay any attention to what the job actually is about.  Dude, he's going on Ellen or something man.

Edit:  What does he care about how the world sees him.  They can't touch him - we got nukes.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 18:58 | 4569892 ShrNfr
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Joint exercises with Obama have come to take on an entirely new meaning. Come on man pass the roach.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:10 | 4569939 Chuck Knoblauch
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The Queen will be sending Richard Simons to Ukraine to Party Off The Pounds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na9ZZ4ZjVa8

Come on ladies of Ukraine, it's time to shed those pounds so you can go to work at the brothels.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:34 | 4569987 Son of Captain Nemo
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Actually at the rate that Obama, Kerry, Hagel and General Dempsey have been "bitch slapped" and bung holed by Putin & Co.  I'd say Simons is at this stage is more menacing!

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:13 | 4569943 Arkadaba
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I posted a vid of this last night when it was fresh on Twitter. Because it can't be completely ignored there is now a link on the Guardian site but without the video:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/19/ukrainian-mp-assaults-telev...

Huffington Post has a story but it is buried in the Media section on a back page:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/18/ukranian-tv-beaten-up-far-right...

A search on Google News gives me 21 news sources. 

This story doesn't fit the narrative. 

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:30 | 4569972 Independent
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But of course they have to only broadcast western media unbiased, dual citizen approved or written teleprompts and articles, what was that station chief thinking.

I am confused though I though the tribe already owned all the TV stations in Ukraine.

http://www.radioislam.org/islam/english/jewishp/ukraine/ukraine_jew_cont...

http://www.radioislam.org/islam/english/jewishp/ukraine/most_ukrainian_m...

http://www.cetv-net.com/en/about-cme/company-overview.shtml

Ronald Lauder is the owner of the outfit and head of World Jewish Congress.

 

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:49 | 4570025 Not Too Important
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There are basically two tribes - a small one with all the money, and the rest of them. They hate each other more than the Nazis hate all of them combined.

Even Christians don't hate each other that much. When was the last time a bunch of Methodists beat up some Episcopalians? Not in a very long time.

Not too different between the Squid and the Squidlings and everyone else.

 

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 01:09 | 4571206 zionhead
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This is correct the GOOD WITCHES know little to nothing about what the minority-zio-TRIBE has done in their name.

I would dare to guess that ZH tribesmen are better informed about the TRIBE, than the average left leaning NYT reading good-witch.

But the bad witch ZIO-NEO-CON, are our enemy; Keep your eyes on the enemy, watch what he does, not what he say's.

 

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:24 | 4569949 Kirk2NCC1701
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The MIC have Obama where they want him, regarding Defence/War cuts.

Big Oil is salivating at the prospect of acing out Gazprom as The supplier of gas (via LNG shipping) from US and ME.

All of which makes the real owners of The Fed celestially happy, as all of these things will be priced in Dollars.

Thus, the Petro-Dollar grows into the Energy-Dollar, and truly becomes The King of the World, to print/issue currency till the cows come home. The US & Friends (Bandar, Bibi) will decide the Fall and Rise of nations, even more so than they do now. And that's why Merkel is a dumb cow, and the EU leaders are dumb Asses: They all serve the Globalists one true god: Mammon.

When you have "One Currency To Rule Them All", all of China's gold stacking and Russia's oil+gas won't matter jack shit. Check and MATE!

And that, boys and girls, is the REAL End Game. But feel free to keep yapping about irrelevant drivel, if it makes you feel better.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:58 | 4570058 Seize Mars
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Correct.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 20:06 | 4570080 Son of Captain Nemo
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Hate to say this Kirk...

This will go down in CIA/Mossad/MI6 lore as the most costly “psyops” campaigns that the gang ever roosted over and they will be bleeding out of the nose, the ass and every other orifice given the "blowback" from this one in terms of time, money and damage control. 

The shakeout from the election tallies and the percentage that voted in favor of withdrawal from the thug takeover along with the speech at the Kremlin that followed is unprecedented.  It's like the statement from Admiral Yamamoto on "awakening the sleeping giant"...They did indeed... and now their ain't nothing they can do to put it back in the bottle.

I give it perhaps one to two months and the rest of Ukraine will be requesting annexation along with Crimea.Game, Match Set Russia…

Timing is everything and it’s not on the U.S.’s side that’s for damn sure!

 

 

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 21:56 | 4570499 Not Too Important
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They'll go, and so will everyone else, with whoever is willing to pay their debt load. Putin can cherry pick the best buys. The EU/US gets what? Piles of debt, shitty economies and raging protesters too busy burning to work?

The US and Canada is being turned into a radioactive fracked wasteland, with Europe soon to follow. The rich will live in Switzerland, where no fracking will be allowed and the water will be fresh, no GMO food, and the rest will all go to hell.

This is how the Western world will end - short of immolation by nuke.

 

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 00:08 | 4570994 gallistic
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I have to agree. The bozos running the show will simply not last too long.

"You know that we resumed talks with the IMF.  We do understand that these are tough reforms, but these reforms are needed for the Ukrainian state.  And we are back on track in terms of delivering real reforms in my country"

-Arseniy "arsenic" Yatsenyuk
Washington D.C., 12 Mar 2014

 

  1. It is very hard to convince anyone that violent neo-nazi putschists supported by outside powers are a legitimate government to begin with, but their immediate actions after the coup have irrevocably alienated a huge swath of Ukrainians, fatally crippling their ability to govern.
  2. Ukraine's military is dysfunctional, and ominously, the armed forces have not demonstrated any institutional support or allegiance to the cretin appointed as Defense Minister or this "government". If they are deployed for any reason, things will get interesting very quickly.
  3. Ukraine's economic problems are too massive for them to to tackle without international help and some serious re-structuring/forgiveness. The main player (Russia) is not exactly inclined to play nice with these ass-clowns right now.
  4. The international community knows that they are not a legitimate government, no matter how hard the US screams, and no matter how hard European leaders try to play along wiith a straight face. Importantly, the BRIC nations (and many others) are explicitly not on board with this "legitimate government" bullshit.
  5. No country will "care" enough about the Ukrainian people to bail them out or cover their debt. The most they will do is propose that Ukraine bend over and accept the IMF "roto-rooter treatment".

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The IMF "reforms" are almost a done deal. Apparently they are trying to have them in place before any citizens have a say in it or any elections take place. How will the East react when the roto-rooter action begins? For that matter, how will the pro-EU west react?

What if the Party of Regions wins?  

Or what happens if the disgruntled Easterners are cheated out of electoral victory or if they legitimately lose, when elections finally take place in this highly-charged atmosphere?

The answer is not hard to envision. The precedent has been set with Crimea's referendum. Obama's ham-handed stupidity has awakened dormant ties that will not easily go away. Putin already secured Crimea. What else will he get?

Anyway, the Tylers should use this photo of "Lurch" and "Arsenic" for a caption contest.

http://blogs.state.gov/stories/2014/03/12/president-obama-secretary-kerr...

 

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 20:06 | 4570084 CrashisOptimistic
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I'm pretty sure you were already told this once, but to be sure, be aware the US is a net nat gas IMPORTER. 

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 20:49 | 4570205 Independent
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We may be a water importer too from Canada after we polute all our water with fracking.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 21:51 | 4570479 TheReplacement
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So what you are saying is that all the greenie weenie types are actually correct but not for the right reason.  If we all commit to renewables as much as is physically practical it will starve the beast and hasten the collapse of the system.  Very interesting.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 01:05 | 4571193 zionhead
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I hear you kirk, your a voice in the wilderness here, but your telling the truth.

He that can print USD to INFINITE for FREE is the KING of the world, and can make all his buddy's trillionaires.

Given 100's of trillions going out the BACK DOOR at the FED, we can never really appreciate how many trillionaires out there are ready and willing BUY governments and any nuke thing they need to accomplish anything.

*

They got CHINA by the BALLS, and they'll take out PUTIN.

The ZIO-FIAT crowd has more people in the MSS(Chinese  CIA) and KGB( russian CIA), than on their own payrolls.

He that have INFINITE FIAT, can have anything on earth.

For humans SADLY can be bought with worthless fucking FIAT ...

Every cop to be a MILLIONAIRE, every politician to be a BILLIONAIRE, and every ZIO-NEO-CON LORD to be a trillionaire,

Welcome to the New World Order.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:17 | 4569952 falak pema
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From Putin's perspective the Crimean issue is now a done deal. As for Eastern Ukraine it will depend on the dynamics of local sentiment in those towns where the Ruski element is strong and to the extent that the Kiev crowd can get their economic act together with the help of EU/US sponsors.

What is of MORE important geopolitical traction is the Syrian/Iranian situation which led Putin to make his Ukraine play as explained here :

Russia Signals Iran Shift Over Ukraine Sanctions - Business Insider

This is the true Achilles heel of the US foreign policy position in the cauldron of the ME from which the US wants to EXTRICATE itself...

WHither to Pax Americana in the Middle East scene stays the key question for the coming decade.

DOes Obammy know where he is heading over there? 

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 20:10 | 4570093 CrashisOptimistic
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Yup, that was inevitable.  Iran has a shoreline with the Caspian and there is lots of oil transport infrastructure there.  Iran could send oil north on the Caspian, Russia can mix it with its own oil, and proceed to sell it to customers who think they are buying legal Russian oil.

Russia then takes a commission and forwards the money to Iran, who then lose interest in further negotiations.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:21 | 4569956 jonjon831983
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Another hand forced by Fed tapering.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:28 | 4569973 BullyBearish
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I think Mike Tyson was talking about his bro, Obummer: "Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth".

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:33 | 4569981 JR
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U.S. Vice President Joe Biden was in Lithuania, trying to reassure nations along Russia’s borders who were terrified by the sight of an expansion-minded Moscow.

Please provide photos of terrified Lithuanians.

P,.S. Do not include photos of Biden.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:34 | 4569985 reader2010
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Ukrainians sent more than 50,000 of their boys wearing Nazi uniforms fighting along Hilter's boys against the Russians in Stalingrad. When Hitler could no longer supplies his 6th Army by air. Ukrainian boys were first casualties of starvation. This time is different?

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:52 | 4570036 Not Too Important
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The Allies promised help to the Poles, too, and that never materialized. How stupid does State think these people are? No one took a history class?

What are the qualifications to work in US foreign policy?

Who said the only thing worse than being America's enemy, is being their friend?

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:55 | 4570049 JR
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Yes, this time is different. Hitler is no longer here and the soldiers who fought for Hitler are no longer alive, just like the 8 million Ukrainian people slaughtered and/or deliberately starved to death by Stalin in The Great Purge of 1937-38.

Your explanation, however, should be appropriate for Obama's core curriculum children's textbooks.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 20:20 | 4570126 Not Too Important
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No, but Hitler and Eva did live out their lives in South American comfort, according to the FBI:

"Recently released FBI documents are beginning to show that not only was Hitler and Eva Braun’s suicide faked, the infamous pair might have had help from the Swiss Director of the United States OSS himself, Allen Dulles."

http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/videos/conspiracy/fbi-opens-files-pr...

And it's not about Hitler. It's about the people that financed him. They're still around.

'Nazi Nexus', by Edwin Black (who has been nominated for the Pulitzer Prize 10x).

How many Native Americans slaughtered by the Europeans? How many Africans slaughtered by the Europeans?

We could go on for days with this history.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 00:59 | 4571183 zionhead
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google "fort detrick" learn how the CIA developed AIDS (HIV), fort detrick is the cia base where all bio weapons are tested, operation-paperclip and Nazi shit and all ..

Google "Litton Bionetics", learn how the CIA developed companys like GOOGLE back in the 1960's to develop biowarfare weapons, today its spyware weapons,... nothing new here

OSS/CIA/MOSSAD and their ZIO-ANGLO-SAXON enablers going back to 1910 have murdered +100 Million people.

But the CIA/MOSSAD developed "AIDS" to completely wipe the Black-Man out of Africa.

 

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 20:58 | 4570238 Kirk2NCC1701
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Centuries of breeding and conditioning by the Church and the Feudal Aristocracy has turned Christians into Fake-Christians, because only the latter would go to war (so damn willingly!) to fight and kill fellow-Christians on behalf of these Lords & Masters.

And Hitler killed more fellow-Catholics than Jews in the Camps alone. When you add the other Christians who died in WW2, the numbers become truly staggering.

Think about it: When was the last time the Buddhists or Jews sent their own off to (massive) wars against each other? [crickets]

At the risk of causing painful Cognitive Dissonance: Just who are the dumb fucks, the useful fools & tools? And who exactly behaves like a master race? Search your soul long & hard, before you have a pre-programmed knee-jerk reaction to being confronted/challenged by painful truth.

I would suggest you either give up your Hippie God, or the kind of fake-Christianity that you've been brainwashed with, that makes you kill fellow Christians for the benefit, the power and the lifestyle of non-Christians.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:36 | 4569988 Ness.
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I think Vicky "Guns" Nuland has already expressed the US position regarding anything 'EUish'.  If I recall, "Fuck, the EU," is our position.  

 

Carry on.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 20:08 | 4570091 Not Too Important
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There are no good guys here: just the dying, the dead, and the doomed. - RE

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 19:56 | 4570053 Seize Mars
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Translation:

Some fucking cunts from Blackwater will shoot some Nice American Boys and, um , "The West Will Be Outraged"(TM).

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 20:01 | 4570067 undertowed
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COLD WAR? It's about to get gamma ray hot up in here!

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 20:22 | 4570135 whateverittakes
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obama administration better read up on the concept of "Russian Soul". Dont get into a pissing contest. They will volunteer to endure more suffering than any westerner.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 20:24 | 4570141 lakecity55
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Whatever Comrade Bath House does, you can be sure it will further damage the US People.

Did not his guy tell K Bass they were going to crash the dollar?

Maybe the time is now......

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 20:25 | 4570144 Perimetr
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Obama says that "even the Ukrainians would acknowledge that for us to engage Russia militarily would not be appropriate"

WTF?  We don't want to fight Russia because it would "not be appropriate"? 

This is the guy who can order a nuclear first-strike with almost 1000 strategic nuclear warheads, by having the officer who is following him around 24/7 merely open up the "nuclear briefcase" and punching in a few commands. 

Saying we don't want to fight a war with Russia because it "would not be appropriate" is NUTS, it is OFF THE SCALE for wierdness.

Don't kid yourself, getting into a direct military confrontation, a fight with Russia would quickly lead to nuclear war.

 So NO, the destruction of civilization and probably the entire human race through a nuclear war would "not be appropriate."  Let's at least hope not . . . .

 

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 20:30 | 4570153 Pressfiretostart
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They kept poking and fcking with the bear and now it has reacted as it should by clawing it's way in the center stage and challenging those numerous little deceitful vultures that want to surround it's den.

Beware of the bear you little vultures. http://topwar.ru/uploads/posts/201403/thumbs/1394941667_cfxpqsqbyu0.jpg

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 20:39 | 4570183 nah
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Russia does not need Crimea Russia has nuclear bomb bitchez

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 20:50 | 4570208 mendolover
Wed, 03/19/2014 - 23:13 | 4570272 Bugsquasher
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It all stinks of the hubris and arrogance of 1914. One has to wonder who will be the new Crown Prince and where will the new Sarsjavo be. As Mark Twain said history my not repeat but it sure does rhyme.

Human ignorance stumbling into disaster. Just as a hundred years ago there don't appear to be any "good guys" on either side.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 22:43 | 4570710 royal
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Ya, Obama. I agree that not getting miliatarily involved with a country that could destroy you with nukes is a very good idea.

Wed, 03/19/2014 - 22:46 | 4570722 dexter_morgan
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Has the choomer in chief been doing space weed or something?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp1e505TBHI

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 00:51 | 4571168 Idi_ocracy
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Obama has absolutly NOT ruled out military action. Saying this is just a publicity stunt so when the americans sink their own warship thats in the black sea and blame it on the Russians they then have the perfect excuse AND the moral outrage to back it up after just anouncing "peaceful intentions". Its the same playbook they have used to justify every invasion since the end of world war 2. Make no mistake, war is coming. Violence is the sum of human nature.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 00:57 | 4571180 dogismycopilot
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who the hell wants latvia and lithuania or estonia...just places full of pimps and prostitutes and nazi war hero families.

now mongolia...there's a place worth taking.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 01:58 | 4571291 KashNCarry
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Regardless of what Putin says or does, or the Duma, Obama sure makes himself look dopey...

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 05:02 | 4571478 no1wonder
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Crimea is clearly still sought after as a site to enact myths and desires.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 06:49 | 4571570 HughJanus
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Merkel now says g8 no longer now g7 and Russia

Is Russia now g1?

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 09:02 | 4571819 esum
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anything O says is BULLSHIT

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 09:40 | 4582095 fiddy pence haf...
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"IMF, EU and NATO announce joint exercise to Fuck Ukraine's Economy"

Now, that would be a truthful headline that I'd like to see.

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