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Ukraine Demands Its "Seized Personnel" Be Released Shortly, Or Else
Ukraine acting President Oleksandr Turchynov has some stern demands of his Russian occupying force neighbors:
- *UKRAINE'S TURCHYNOV SEEKS RELEASE OF DETAINED CRIMEA PERSONNEL
- *UKRAINE PLEDGES 'ADEQUATE MEASURES' IF PERSONNEL NOT RELEASED
Furthermore, he promisese to take "appropriate steps" unless Crimean authorities free all hostages within 3 hours. For now, Russian forces refuse to negotiate. Meanwhile, Russia is standing both militarily and now economically behind Crimea as it affirms it will cover the region's budget deficit.
Via Bloomberg,
Ukraine acting President Oleksandr Turchynov wants seized personnel including Navy Chief Serhiy Hayduk released by 9pm local time.
Ukraine to take “adequate measures” if personnel not released by deadline, Turchynov says in website statement
Russian forces refuse to negotiate in Crimea: Turchynov
Via Reuters,
Russia will cover Crimea's estimated 55 billion rouble ($1.53 billion) budget deficit with funds from the federal budget, Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov said on Channel 1 state television on Tuesday.
"The volume of the (budget) deficit of Crimea and Sevastopol is about 55 billion roubles," Siluanov said in an interview televised by Channel 1.
"The whole sum will definitely be covered with federal budget."
So now we have another red-line at 3pmET...
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Who cares?! Obozo's NCAA picks are done!
So in backing the Ukrainians up, will Kerry threaten to release a terribly aggressive estimate of Russia's new carbon footprint that has been disasterously impacted by rolling huge dirty gas-guzzling tanks into the Crimea? Because that might make Putin back off!
Release the tree huggers.
dotted red line?
This Ukrainian idiot seems hell bent on starting WW3
The neocons in DC are in essence, forcing Putin to move on Ukraine. These sociopaths are foisting WW111 on us.
Libtard
For the record and your personal edification....I'm a Roman Catholic, Ex Marine, to the right of Barry Goldwater,Constitutionalist Patriot.
There....fixed it for ya.
exactly... the thugs from the west are going provoke putin into responding...terror attacks, etc...but they wont be attacking crimea...they will be attacking russia now....major difference...
Gringo, you aren't alone!
Jim Stone said it clearly here:
"Events leading up to World War 3 are playing out. Flight MH370 was a major piece of the puzzle in this, but more importantly what is going on in Ukraine may be the trigger."
Source
1.53bil....i didnt know numbers went that low anymore
isreal attacks syria..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is9Ci1oyleI
Again?
This is why I think it's unlikely Putin will bite off much more (if any) of Ukraine: he would have the financial responsibility for it.
That's not a moral responsibility, like the Powell Doctrine of "you break it, you bought it." It's a practical responsibility: if occupied, nobody else will bail out the territory. Putin would have to do it because he can't afford to have a failed state on his border. That same logic applies to Ukraine proper, which is one reason he's trying to get the west to bail it out (trying successfully, I might add!)
The other reason is that he wants Gazprom to be paid.
One caveat:
Putin may not want a territorial war, but the close proximity of troops and high emotions could result in an "accident" that forces his hand. With so many interested factions, who knows what will happen?
It's like having an alcoholic next-door neighbor that gets belligerent every time they tie one on, then expects someone to bail their @zz out of jail (again!)
After Debriefing these personnel will refuse to go back any way.
Nice summation of this ordeal from Dmitry Orlov:
http://usawatchdog.com/collapse-and-systemic-failure-at-all-levels-comin...
Turchynov: I demand!
Putin: This ain't Kansas, Dorothy... ;-)
Looney
P.S. McCain: Hello, my name is Dodo! My left turn signal has been blinking for 2 months now.
Turchynov: We're done here!
UKRAINE'S TURCHYNOV DEMANDS RETURN OF 'DO NOT REMOVE TAG UNDER PENALTY OF LAW' TAGS TAKEN BY SPETSNAZ FROM MATTRESSES IN DNEPROPETROVSK - OR ELSE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34n6s-17AsM
Release the tree huggers.
That is a great idea. We don't want them here in the US. Send them to the Crimea.
The clown-show has gone full-retard and PT BArnum is two-stepping with Eddie Bernays in that special place reserved for them...
Baba, Black Sheep, why you such a tool?
ori
Evolution?
Not my circus, not my monkeys!
Tira's pool...
Dude, my bracket has Wichita State winning. Wait, what were we talking about? Ooohhh! Hotdogs!
Replace "SQUIRREL!" with "KARDASHIAN!" and you have the general populace:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSUXXzN26zg
Let 'em go. Why would Russia want to keep them?
Louisville bitchez!
'Pleeaaaase release me let me go ... for I don't love u anymore .....'
It would be a nice date of the 22 of March to start WW111, after all the Masonic temples are having there burnt offering to Satan on that day ( a month early).
Turchynov chewing on the paper to make the spitballs as we speak.
Who the hell cares what the fuck they say? They had time to withdraw their troops from Crimean, and therefore, Russian soil. Someone posted over the weekend that Russia would have gladly escorted their troops to their border if they had cooperated. Why are they pretending the vote in Crimea never happened?
They're pretending the vote never happened because Uncle Sam is standing behind them, pointing a gun at their backs, and telling them to pretend the vote never happened.
In the meantime the guardian of free speech, member of parliament in Ukraine from Svoboda party, sacks the head of television:
http://www.euronews.com/2014/03/19/ukranian-tv-boss-assaulted-and-forced...
Maybe they just don't want to leave.
Watching a BBC segments on Crimea, I heard them mention that in order to gain Russian citizenship and stay on Crimean soil, Ukrainian soldiers had to submit personal identification (i.e. surrender Ukrainian passports) and apparently only about half the people who expressed the desire to stay had proper documentation on hand. Soldiers typically have army issued identification. Things like passports and birth certificates often remain in possession of family members. Some soldiers had to be escorted off site against their will in compliance with the ultimatum simply because they didn't have the papers.
Of else what? Will they will fart in their general direction? My god, the puppet show in the west is getting really tired and old.
"No chance, English bed-wetting types. We burst our pimples at you, and call your door-opening request a silly thing. You tiny-brained wipers of other people's bottoms!"
that monty python shit never gets tired man...
now, "run away!!!"
cheers..
Or they'll send in more to get captured or turn.
He's just a poor boy from a poor family. Spare him his life from this monstrosity.Easy come, easy go, will you let me go? ... No, we will not let you go!
Mr. Peabody has spoken...
now, all u dumb asses that started this stupid EU/US/MoneyChanger Overlords bullshit please make like good snagglepussy's and "EXIT STAGE LEFT"
b4 u get your asses shot off...
cya.......
Talk about doing a walk of shame.
Why in the world would the Ukrainian Naval Chief want to be released? So he can die in glory a few weeks later? He's sitting pretty for a nice leadership position in the Russian Crimean fleet and a pension if he makes the right decisions.
One of the few instances where "defect" is actually a good word...
Ukrianian government puppets say nothing that is not approved for release by the NATO command. Today NATO announced it would defend Poland and the Baltics against Russia aggression, as if there is any! We wonder what game NATO is playing at, this is all planned, we know that. So where is NATO headed? Threats are flying like mad while Putin says he will not invade anyone, NATO claims the whole Eastern front is at threat of Russian invasion.
Who is a liar here? Haver you followed the west's media narrative on this issue. It is bald faced lies and that is provable by a simple fact check. Putin keeps trying to talk the west down, but the west is talking like it is 1914 or 1939. God help us all, because Washington is now fully insane, mad fuckers drunk on their power. They don't give fuck all about you or me, they are out of control insane whores to banks and corporations and a crazed military industrial complex.
If NATO pushes Russia to the point that they put nuclear forces on high alert, then we are playing an end game of epic madness!
Sadly, I agree Jack.
Our leaders, and their controllers, seem intent on a war that will go nuclear.
I disagree. The Baltic States are NATO members (Ukraine is not). And they need reassurance that their allies are ready to defend them. Then they have sizable Russian or at least Russian-speaking populations and they could be on the menu list of what Catherine II wants to grab additionally
you have no idea how depressing this Crimea invasion is for Estonians, Latvian, Lithuanians, Finns and yes, also for Poles and Swedes
We can send them some Prozac.
They shouldn't be depressed. Ukraine (independent since only 1991) had no claim to Crimea but for Khrushchev giving it to the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic in 1954 as a gift.
Poland has more to fear from neo-Nazi Ukrainians who want to take parts of Poland for Ukraine, than Russia.
this talk about neo-nazi Ukrainians is getting a bit ludicrous. there were lots of people against the old prez, in Ukraine. communists, socialists, centrists, nationalists, liberals, conservatives and, yes, neo-nazis
the current government of Ukraine has been appointed by the Ukrainian Parliament. which was elected. calling Ukraine a nation led by neo-nazis is just silly
and saying that Poland has to fear from neo-Nazi Ukrainians... I don't even know where to start
The current regime is composed of 8 ministers from the Svoboda party and Right Sector. If you watched events, these ministers were selected during a rally on the steets of Kiev. Later were approved by Rada with many members being absent or under threat. These Svoboda/Right Sector ministers control all the "power" ministries.
Now, there are credible reports of pogroms underway in Kiev, people being thrown out of their flats, people fleeing, etc.
Right Sector has already demanded that Polish city of Przemyl be "returned" to Ukraine
I encourage you to check other news sources.
then be so kind to include a few of your sources. particularly on "...later were approved by the Rada with many members being absent or under threat"
so, I checked. and I see that your version of the facts is not even supported by the views of the Russian FM, Lavrov
in the current cabinet of ministers of Ukraine I find 6 members of the "Fatherland" party, 4 of the "Svoboda", and assorted others
further:
The Prime Minister, Yatsenyuk, is from the "Fatherland" party, and leader of this parliamentary fraction
The acting Defence Minister, Zamana, is the same that Yanukovytch appointed in 2012 and then dismissed in February, a career military man
The acting Foreign Minister, Deshchytsia, is a career diplomat
The Minister of Internal Affairs (the Police Minister), Avakov, is from the "Fatherland" party
The Justice Minister, Petrenko, is from the "Fatherland" party
for those who never looked at european cabinets, the PM, the DM, the FM, the Police and the Justice Ministers are the "hard" ministries. and what I see there is 3 "Fatherland" ministers and 2 "technocrats", making this cabinet clearly led by the "Fatherland" party
Lavrov, the FM of Russia, said that "this government exists only with the support of...", which is quite a different point of view, and way more factual
you are not credible. on purpose or not, what you are doing here is agit-prop
Ghord, you do have to admit it was a violent overthrow, not an election. And the events since appear to be those of an ongoing and actually still spreading revolution.
What say you?
element, yes, it is a revolutionary moment. the head of state fled the country. yet what about the parliament? the current Rada was elected in 2012. it is composed out of 449 members, the original coalition that used to govern was 250 strong, the opposition 199
what happened there? the most important vote they took was about the return of the 2004 constitution, with frigging 386 votes aye and zero nay
that sounds like a classic rump parliament in a revolutionary moment. it is not total legitimacy, yet it is some legitimacy, of the kind that trumps all the others, particularly because 386 out of 449 is enough to be a "quorum"
and even in the last constitution, the Rada had the power to appoint a Prime Minister and the rest of the administration with the exception of the DM and FM, which were appointed by the head of state and approved/rejected by the Rada
so yes, a rump parliament in the middle of a revolution. yet still the most legitimate body Ukraine has at the moment. and it appointed the current (acting if you want) PM with 371 votes
Major chunks of Poland were ripped off from Germany post-WWI (see Prussia/Danzig) and provocation by Poland (via war mongers like FDR and Churchill- good little central bank lackeys) was used to draw Germany into invading them in '39- does all this "provocation" sound familiar?
"you have no idea how depressing this Crimea invasion is for Estonians, Latvian, Lithuanians, Finns and yes, also for Poles and Swedes"
I know, right? The Eurozone and the Euro currency was just one gigantic cornucopia of joy until the Russians came and screwed it all up.
Eurozone: bacon cheeseburger and chili fries, a giant coca cola, and a slab of pecan pie for dessert.
Russia: Borscht, stale bread, and dirty water
Do I get my NATO medal of freedom now?
I've got to say I fail to see how the sun fails to shine on the Russian State any different from the European centralist apparatus. Same planet, same beauty. What's the difference? This is not the Soviet era. We do actually have outstanding data and info-sharing across all countries here. I get to see and access Russia in a way I have never been able to prior, and it looks like a perfectly good and decent place to me. If Ukraine is financially stuffed, that is one thing, but to conflate Crimea going back to Russia voluntarily via a massive majority is equivalent a great tragedy.
I simply don't see it.
As always the politicians and their cadres destroy the peace of the world with their greed threats and murders.
But to claim being part of Russia is the march of evil incarnate, as that fuckstick US vice prez said yesterday (the useless dickhead could not even read a bloody script without garbling it and sounding like a total fraud!), I can not see a downside.
The only loser out of that is Washington and NATO and its rooks and pawns.
Well pawns and rooks of such mercenary venal powers should be concerning. Damn right they should be concerned. And that concern and tension is sated by their change of policy and relations with all the neighbors.
Lets hope the Russian radar interpreters are every bit as good as they were the first time.
Don't kid yourself: NATO's PR agents (propaganda machine) is ramping up first, to "prime the pump" of Public Opinion -- before there is a 1914 "Sarajevo moment" triggered.
Note that it took only 1 month from the "Sarajevo moment" (assassination of Austria's Archduke Ferndinand), to the start of WW2.
Expect same for WW3: NATO, Al-CYA-duh & ME Friends are putting the pieces into position -- to go after Russia, while China is pinned down with its own internal "Economy" problems. It's a foot-race as to who can front-run whom, at this point.
Except that this War is fought in several 'Fronts', i.e. Domains: Currency Wars, PR War, Fifth Column & Civil Unrest, Economic War (Sanctions), Energy War vs "Energy-backed Reserve-Currency"
"It's complicated" in its structure, but simple in its Strategic Intent: One-world Currency, as Petro-Dollar dies or must become Energy-Dollar. All else is Deception, Distraction and Brinksmanship. Check. Your move.
It does seem highly unlikely that the situation is going to descalate from here. We are approaching zero hour for Chinese action of some type, it would be very surprising if their response to the upcoming liquidity crash didn't have serious global implications. I know that sounds stupidly obvious, but this is not widely perceived by the general population or messaged by the media/controllers.
Israel has a long record of getting U.S. military technology to China. In the early 1990s then-CIA Director James Woolsey told a Senate ...
*http://defensetech.org/2013/12/24/report-israel-passes-u-s-military-tech...
Any student of this shit knows that 'china' is already a ZIONIST BITCH, the biggest problem for the CHINESE PARTY is selling a war against Russia to their own people. That' why the KUNMING/MH-370 slaughters.
Israel has the USA by the ball's and is working overtime getting CHINA over to the dark side, then they take down Russia.
*
Mil is none to happy about WW3, but that is the CIA/MOSSAD's job, ... besides, if the WW3 is contained in ASIA as a RUSSIA/CHINA war, the west would be sitting pretty just like POST WW2.
deleted duplicate.
Cage match- Putin and Michelle. Barry can hold the towels.
I have a family friend currently visiting parents in Ukraine and staying in touch via the internet. She's saying thugs and armed strangers in unknown uniforms roam the streets. There is a sense of lawlessness. There are make-shift training facilities that are turning Maidan participants into guerilla fighters. Equipment (vehicles and weapons) are gradualy being brought in from the West. Some railroad shipments are being sabotaged by packs of pro-Russian resistance, who are littering tracks with debris or dismantling them entirely.
Crimea right now is probably the most peaceful place in the former Ukraine.
Moscow goes to DEFCON-3...now what McCain/Kerry/Obamatron?
My understanding is that DEFCON-2 means the bombers are in-flight, towards their targets...
Or what? 20 lashes with a "wet noodle."
LOL
Obama flogs Reggie Love with his wet noodle....
Or else what?
Are they going to let trannies into their armed forces, or sanction a sex deviant homosexual rights parade with kweers in full uniform galivanting down the streets like Obama did?
I'm not sure sex diviation from the considered norm has much to do with Ukrain, NATO and Russia in this crisis. Besides, I care fuck all if some trannie dresses up for kicks. I do care if Obama and McCain blow me and my children to radioactive ashes. Get a grip on what is important. And, spare me your Bible. I am no Jew and I care fuck all nothing about the Jew God!
Amen Brother.
Here's a picture that all past, present and future Holocaust survivors should carry around in their wallet as a reminder...
If you're a Zionist Jew you must be truly proud of yourselves! I see those Holocaust museums being used for something other than rememberance and more as kindling at the rate you are going. The people throughout the U.S. will need it when more of them lose their jobs and have no money to pay the electric bill.
Anyone for S'mores????
http://www.intrepidreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Nuland-Coin.jpg
http://www.vocativ.com/culture/lgbt/next-dont-ask-dont-tell/
Trannies will one day run our military.
Cool. Any conflicts can then be worked out quickly in the men's room at the newly remodeled UN.
OOOO!! I bet Putin is really scared by Acting Idiot Turchynov, but I don't think he's acting, he really is an idiot.
Oh is by any chance Turchynov referring to these gentlemen?...
http://xrepublic.tv/node/8013
My how this is getting interesting?
Wonder what Kerry will tell the World when these guys talk under "stress"?
The mouse that roared or was that a SQUEEEEK. Look, Ukraine is now New Russia, get over it.
Reports coming from Kiev now of neo-Nazi junta/regime supporters going door to door demanding to know of residents' political views. Pogroms underway. People leaving.
US/EU have transformed parts of Ukraine into Nazi-held areas. They bear full responsibility for what results.
The May "elections" won't be free or fair. They will be a sham to keep new neo-Nazi regime in power.
Nuland, the neo-Cons, US & EU have opened the gates of Hell.
More than half the population does not want this regime, and East Ukrainians will probably seek protection from Russia.
Good post Tracerfan, the western media has a full black out on events in Kiev. I am trying to confirm a lot of very troubling reports of open NAZI behavior in the West. The sniper shootings in Crimea killed one Ukrainian officer, 1 Crimean Defnse force memeber. Just like EruoMidan, the snipers are killing both sides. Reports are 1 of these snipers has been arrest and is under questioning.
That's how they roll in Nuland's Fourth Reich.
we nazis with rothschild funds will blackwater sniper shoot all crimeans in the heart and head one bullet at a time.
a little patience my friends is needed as we are finding it difficult to recruit ex navy seals and sas as they do not seem interested in a futile death on russian soil.
gives us a 1000 years and will will have are nu land soros reich.
pure and modern and jew.
leaving behind the old fashioned primitive organic ways.
space age monsanto crops blessed with the blood of innocents.
chevron fractured earth pumping gas and cancer for all humanity.
do not worry about the gold it is safe in london,israel and new york.
Or else what??? All anyone does is talk.
Or else we'll tie you to a chair, prop your eyeballs open and make you watch CNN's Breaking News on the missing jetliner for 24/7...
And yet Gold has gone down $50 this week. I guess this is the drop before it rises to $10,000, they talk about....... But seriously how is Gold down this week !!!!!!
Gold has been down since the 2011 highs.
So have the registered gold stocks at COMEX.
It will be down until it can't.
memo to world leaders. The teleprompter will not work with Putin. Action speaks louder than words. Wake up and just stop it already with the posturing. We all know you will not do anything. Taking an aggressive stance would result in the coup leader losing power as Russia would simply provide a sample of their gears of war.
Don't make Ming the Merciless angry (you won't like him when he's angry!) :>D
The problem with Putin is he's hip to the tribe.
http://www.haaretz.com/mobile/1.530857?v=97649ACED90057A2FC4DBB0204912242
Putin has "Jew awareness", he knows their game and won't play, Putin knows how to play their game better than they do.
The Ukrainian military is the Russian military. Half of them have already accepted Russian passports.
USA Watchdog - Dmitry Orlov:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCO5nZgvtbY&list=UUG-G8LLr38fQUNZU8K0t-EA
FYI... http://rt.com/news/sevastopol-ukraine-leave-servicemen-796/
LOL. That HP printer was probably made in Western Ukraine, in the JABIL plant. A Florida-based US company.
I find it totally amazing that given the heighted rhetoric, the Golfer and Chief is painfully absent from the airwaves. Who is running this s!%t show anyway?
He catches the kick at the one red line, now he's at the 5, the 10, the 20, the 50...OH MY GOD, HE MIGHT GO ALL THE WAY!
Give back Crimea or we'll inject ourselves with HIV before you ass fuck us next time!
Jeez - adequate measures and appropriate steps. Russia better mind its p's & q's that's fer sure.
Somebody in the Ukraine went to the "Obama School For Talking Really Really Tough"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL1XlVpn8gc
The sheeple are focused on a missing fucking airplane with 230 some odd people. Would be nice if they focused on the nuclear annihilation there dear leader is perpetrating on the other billions!
I won't be surprised to find out that 'Russian hostages' consist of a kid doing 'eeny meeny miney mo' while skipping across and back over Obama's Red Line.
Kid better hope the neo-nazi snipers are off duty.
"Russia praises ratification of Crimean naval base deal" 4/27/10 http://en.ria.ru/world/20100427/158775967.html
"Yanukovych: Russia to pay Ukraine annually $98 million in cash for naval base rent starting 2019" 4/22/10 *(Note: 1997-2019 + 5yrs ?) http://www.kyivpost.com/content/business/yanukovych-russia-to-pay-ukraine-annually-98-milli-64716.html
"Russia-Ukraine gas disputes" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Ukraine_gas_dispute
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yulia_Tymoshenko
'Yulia Tymoshenko, is a person of particular interest... with an insatiable 'Samson`Option penchant'... this Whited`Sepulcher'ess?!?'
Note3: Important (i think?) -- Russia has just saved themselve's $100 million annually, plus having`not, to give the Ukrainian's a premium discount on their NatGas. It seems their 'Orang(e)utan primordial disposition', is,-- to, 'cutting-off-their-nose-to-spite-their-face'!
WOW!!!
The joke that keeps on joking!