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Busted! – U.S. Tech Giants Knew Of NSA Spying Says Agency's Senior Lawyer

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Submitted by Michael Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

This is why I’ve been so confused and frustrated by the repeated reports of the behavior of the US government. When our engineers work tirelessly to improve security, we imagine we’re protecting you against criminals, not our own government.

The US government should be the champion for the internet, not a threat. They need to be much more transparent about what they’re doing, or otherwise people will believe the worst.

I’ve called President Obama to express my frustration over the damage the government is creating for all of our future. Unfortunately, it seems like it will take a very long time for true full reform.

So it’s up to us — all of us — to build the internet we want. Together, we can build a space that is greater and a more important part of the world than anything we have today, but is also safe and secure. I‘m committed to seeing this happen, and you can count on Facebook to do our part.

- Facebook CEO, Mark Zuckerberg in a post last week

Last week, Mark Zuckerberg made headlines by posting about how he called President Barack Obama to express outrage and shock about the government’s spying activities. Of course, anyone familiar with Facebook and what is going on generally between private tech behemoths and U.S. intelligence agencies knew right away that his statement was one gigantic heap of stinking bullshit. Well now we have the proof.

Earlier today, the senior lawyer for the NSA made it completely clear that U.S. tech companies were fully aware of all the spying going on, including the PRISM program (on that note read my recent post: The Most Evil and Disturbing NSA Spy Practices To-Date Have Just Been Revealed).

So stop the acting all of you Silicon Valley CEOs. We know you are fully on board with extraordinary violations of your fellow citizens’ civil liberties. We know full well that you have been too cowardly to stand up for the values this country was founded on. We know you and your companies are compromised. Stop pretending, stop bullshitting. You’ve done enough harm.

From The Guardian:

The senior lawyer for the National Security Agency stated unequivocally on Wednesday that US technology companies were fully aware of the surveillance agency’s widespread collection of data, contradicting month of angry denials from the firms.


Rajesh De, the NSA general counsel, said all communications content and associated metadata harvested by the NSA under a 2008 surveillance law occurred with the knowledge of the companies – both for the internet collection program known as Prism and for the so-called “upstream” collection of communications moving across the internet.


Asked during at a Wednesday hearing of the US government’s institutional privacy watchdog if collection under the law, known as Section 702 or the Fisa Amendments Act, occurred with the “full knowledge and assistance of any company from which information is obtained,” De replied: “Yes.”


When the Guardian and the Washington Post broke the Prism story in June, thanks to documents leaked by whistleblower Edward Snowden, nearly all the companies listed as participating in the program – Yahoo, Apple, Google, Microsoft, Facebook and AOL –claimed they did not know about a surveillance practice described as giving NSA vast access to their customers’ data. Some, like Apple, said they had “never heard” the term Prism.


The disclosure of Prism resulted in a cataclysm in technology circles, with tech giants launching extensive PR campaigns to reassure their customers of data security and successfully pressing the Obama administration to allow them greater leeway to disclose the volume and type of data requests served to them by the government.


The NSA’s Wednesday comments contradicting the tech companies about the firms’ knowledge of Prism risk entrenching tensions with the firms NSA relies on for an effort that Robert Litt, general counsel for the director of national intelligence, told the board was “one of the most valuable collection tools that we have.”

Move along serfs, move along.

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Thu, 03/20/2014 - 00:10 | 4571046 Independent
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Mark Fudgeaberger, Fudging the truth one LIE at a time

Guess the Kibbutz training comes in good sometimes

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 00:22 | 4571102 InjectTheVenom
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Thu, 03/20/2014 - 01:11 | 4571198 Indian_Goldsmith
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I only use google to search for mature ladies porn, only use facebook to connect with mature sexy ladies (and exchange naughty pics and videos ;) ). Now i ask all intelligent ZHers, can the NSA use this to blackmail me? How?

Should i start my own gigolo enterprise to nullify any possible future blackmail?


All opinions would be appreciated :)

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 01:19 | 4571224 zionhead
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I only google for 'adult depends' and 'mobile wheelchairs'.

Google is SPYNET, .. ZH should spend some time updating themselves to SPYNET buying robots and drones, ...

It's not just passive data collection, GOOGLE is ramping up to be a provider of World Policeman in the active sense.


Thu, 03/20/2014 - 01:33 | 4571239 sunaJ
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Even Holwood couldn't wash him clean.  Oh, who am I kidding?  This snivelous douche's idea was selected to be part of the central machine.



Thu, 03/20/2014 - 01:35 | 4571258 Boris Alatovkrap
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Load of steaming bovine excrement as member of political and corporate class is mix bodily fluid in orgy and then both is feign anger at betrayal of citizenry.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 02:15 | 4571314 National Blessing
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American corporations and government having been sharing a bed for a long long time.  The United States is now fascist-lite.  Bastards.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 02:47 | 4571358 Indian_Goldsmith
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"We know full well that you have been too cowardly to stand up for the values this country was founded on"....


LMAO hahahahaha

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 02:53 | 4571370 AldousHuxley
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Hemisphere Project.


ALL of your phone records dating back to 1987 provided to government without search warrants.





Thu, 03/20/2014 - 07:01 | 4571585 CuttingEdge
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Maybe Zuck the Fuck's company name should be changed to 2Facedbook...

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 07:59 | 4571658 Uncle Remus
Thu, 03/20/2014 - 11:58 | 4572745 Tim_
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HR 6304 Gave Retroactive Immunity to AT&T - Video

Whistle-Blower Outs NSA Spy Room
April 7, 2006

"AT&T provided National Security Agency eavesdroppers with full access to its customers' phone calls, and shunted its customers' internet traffic to data-mining equipment installed in a secret room in its San Francisco switching center, according to a former AT&T worker cooperating in the Electronic Frontier Foundation's lawsuit against the company."

"Mark Klein, a retired AT&T communications technician, submitted an affidavit in support of the EFF's lawsuit this week."

AT&T gave feds access to all Web, phone traffic, ex-tech says

"His first inkling that something was amiss came in summer 2002, when he opened the door to admit a visitor from the National Security Agency (NSA) to an AT&T office in San Francisco."

"'What the heck is the NSA doing here?' Mark Klein, a former AT&T technician, said he asked himself."

"A year or so later, he stumbled upon documents that, he said, show the agency gained access to massive amounts of e-mail, Web search and other Internet records of more than a dozen global and regional telecom providers."

Billboard Liberation Front "Promotes" AT&T and NSA

AT&T - Your World. Delivered. To the NSA.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 05:07 | 4571480 A Nanny Moose
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Purpose of all government is fascism. Fascism is socialism with corporations.

Paraphrasing Engels; the goal of socialism is Communism.

It's all the same root ideology. Coercion on behalf of the collective.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 06:12 | 4571538 Wahooo
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It's time we returned to the Trespassers Will Be Shot days. Sorry, humans, you can't be trusted.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 09:31 | 4571899 lordylord
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Libtards love to criticize capitalism in favor of socialism.  Libertards are either too dumb to know the difference between free-market capitalism and fascism or they are purposeless being deceptive.  Even after you correct their mistake, they still deride capitalism.  These people are willfully ignorant.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 01:37 | 4571262 Skateboarder
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Life is pale without a genuine sense of wonder. These people do not live.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 03:52 | 4571433 disabledvet
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you need to stop immediately! the SEC is watching you do this and this failing in their "proper oversight" function. Now let's sue GM for ten billion before this whole Presidency goes down in flames.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 05:50 | 4571524 messystateofaffairs
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Actually the google search engine works exceptionally well on porn, a feature of its cultural heritage. For all other searches I use Startpage. We are only too happy to share our pornsites with all the lonely cubicled NSA workers burning the midnight oil to defend our freedoms. But really, you all didn't have to set up such an elaborate and expensive system to find your pornsites, we would have been happy to forward you the links. Wishing you all happy wanking or doing each other in your cubicles or whatever it is all you very impotent national security people do.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 03:53 | 4571436 Offthebeach
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Hard to tell where the SS/KGB/STASI/NSA stops and Google/Facebook, XYZ Coroporation begins.

But we in the west have multi-party politaical representstion that gives us real choices.

( OK, one of the two paragraphs is a manufactured, propaganda idea. )

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 04:21 | 4571451 OldPhart
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Torn between believing certain knowledge that the tech companies were willing accomplices and the certain knowledge that ALL lawyers are born psychopathic liars...(weird how most of our government is comprised of lawyers, isn't it?). 

In this case I'm inclined to believe the psychopathic liars.


Thu, 03/20/2014 - 11:36 | 4572516 MayIMommaDogFac...
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It is only lying when the little people do it.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 10:16 | 4572107 DirtyWilly
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There is so much bullshit in this article I'd have to give it an "up-to-armpits" rating.

Zuckerberg called out the pres?  Yeah, and I fart fabreeze.

This isn't adding up, they willingly participated, yet called them out, yet knew before Snowden.  My armit rating stands.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 11:24 | 4572461 Tim_
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Mark Zuckerberg is a jew.

The world's most influential Jews: 1-10


Thu, 03/20/2014 - 00:14 | 4571048 knukles
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Another Conspiracy Theory becomes Ohneverthefuckmind.
Assholes, Deluxe
Fuck Silicon Valley and the EU


So hey, didju all ever notice how that Faceplant shit went?  Kid's got a biz, starts to catch on, gets a full boat load of air time via CNBS folks, Wall Street pump, a FUCKING MOVIE is made of the little pecker, hype galore, Internet Bubble 3.0 and lo and behold, the deal IPOs and he gets fab rich.


Anybody else see the connection?
Gov't agency spying via social media, Wall Street, Hollywood?
Every last dot in the Matrix was connected

Your Propaganda Mechanism At Work

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 00:22 | 4571104 Grande Tetons
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I figured it out after I saw him wearing the same hoodie for 458 days straight. 

After day 450, I knew something was up. Little fucker. 

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 01:58 | 4571290 SilverIsKing
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With that hoodie, he was trying to be Obama's other son.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 00:44 | 4571154 palmereldritch
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Suckerherd probably shared some of the same profs as Obama

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 00:47 | 4571160 zionhead
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More circle jerking, .. taking this to the next level, how can we support Tyler so he doesn't have to collect nickels from the Enemy?

How to remove every fucking GOOGLE, FACEBOOK, TWITTER, NSA-CIA spy front from this site?

Just asking, ...

ZH would get real credibility if it were a google-free zone,... this is where the rubber meets the road, and bullshit talks and money walks.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 01:26 | 4571241 boogerbently
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I'm sorry, your comment was blocked out by more annoying "push advertising".

What were you saying ?

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 02:48 | 4571354 mccvilb
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Don't forget Gates & MSFT - multiple back doors installed in the Windows OS, and the Microsoft cloud via Silverlight will suck up every document you've ever stored on your hard drives the second you connect to the internet. McCarthyism lives.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 05:34 | 4571505 messystateofaffairs
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Whose to say ZH is not a gubmint honeypot collecting info on all us independent thinking malcontents who will need reeducating in FEMA camps, or worse. Just show me the nailclippers big brother, I'll sign anything.

Remember we don't know each other and "they" know us all.

Anyway, I'd just like to say everything I said here is a joke and I really love gubbermint, and Marky is a nice guy, and I'm going to open a shitbook account.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 07:30 | 4571620 Bangin7GramRocks
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Whether the NSA or CIA helped make Facebook, it has changed the way a large percentage of the world communicates, spreads information and gets the news of the day. It is a perfect front for big brother and has been incredibly successful. Ask a 30 year old girl what websites she visits daily. Most only visit Facebook and read links connected to Facebook.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 12:45 | 4573044 Crash Overide
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Fackbook = Zuckerberg = Rothschild = Bankers = MIC

What, you didn't know?

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 00:09 | 4571050 GumbyMe
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Shocking! NOT! The scumbags have been lying all along in hopes of saving their own asses.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 00:11 | 4571058 prains
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<--- Profit



What do ALL Ceo's stand for?

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 00:15 | 4571073 tickhound
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It's ONLY profit... And any benefits to you are ancillary.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 00:16 | 4571078 prains
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ancillary as in....trickling

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 00:59 | 4571176 tickhound
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Ancillary as in... In support of (profit).

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 00:17 | 4571080 LetThemEatRand
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Profit + Truth = Proof.  Of your guilt.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 00:21 | 4571096 prains
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the circle of life

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 00:27 | 4571120 kliguy38
Thu, 03/20/2014 - 00:34 | 4571141 prains
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Thu, 03/20/2014 - 00:11 | 4571063 Cognitive Dissonance
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All hail the mighty multinational corporation.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 00:25 | 4571114 Anusocracy
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The problem is still government and its evil spawn - like the NSA.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 03:36 | 4571419 Kirk2NCC1701
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It's the New Feudalism. Born Again Feudalism. New & Improved.
2.0. Get used to it, Sheeple.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 04:34 | 4571459 Ifigenia
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The good old feudalism was better. At those time the kings and lords`wars were funded by the moneylenders and when those bellicose enterprises ended in fiascos, normally does, those kings and lords just had to invoke that the jews were trying to impoverish the christians to default. Nowaday, the moneylenders turned to modern king and lords and use the state to collect our debts and even their losses are put on our heads and our children.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 00:13 | 4571066 LetThemEatRand
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But, hey, check out these cool new apps!

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 00:20 | 4571084 TheFourthStooge-ing
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But, hey, check out these cool new apps!

The game app based on Zuckerberg (Angry Turds) is pretty realistic.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 01:29 | 4571245 boogerbently
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Hey, hey, look,

It's a lighter. No matter how I turn my phone, the flame goes up !!!!

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 00:21 | 4571074 QE49er
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Zuckerberg, Yellen, Bernanke, Obama, Gates...All scum villains, the lowest of the low of all humanity.  They have to keep reminding themselves that they are doing Gods work because the guilt is just too much, must be really tough selling your soul.

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