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Putin Grateful To China, India For "Support" Over Crimea

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While the most vocal mouthpieces of the western world's nations are loudly condemning Vladimir Putin's actions in Crimea - despite Ukraine itself suggesting he can keep it for a price - it appears the rest of the world is less voracious in its condemnation. As Putin noted this morning "we are grateful to all those who understood our actions in Crimea,” Putin said. “We are grateful to the people of China, whose leadership sees the situation in Crimea in all its historical and political integrity. We highly appreciate India’s restraint and objectivity.”

It would appear there are a number of nations that are "supportive" of Russia's actions...Via Voice of Russia,

We are grateful to all those who understood our actions in Crimea,”

 

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Moscow vetoed the resolution, while Beijing abstained.

 

This step wasn’t seen by mass media as clear support for the Crimean reunification and even deemed as a ‘slap in the face’ for Russia by Western diplomats.

 

Yet, the step by Beijing was considered as clever and politically far-seeing.

 

China wasn’t able to veto the resolution on Crimea alongside Russia as it has its own domestic issues like Tibet, Xinjiang, Hong Kong and Taiwan. But it has now deepened its relations with Moscow and gained a potential ally for the future when Beijing will have to make hard political decisions.

 

India also remembers the support Moscow showed in 1975 when New Delhi had the same situation with Sikkim, a landlocked state located in the Himalayan Mountains. At that time India was under heavy diplomatic pressure from the West, especially from the United States.

 

Sikkim became 22nd state of India, when 97.5 % of residents voted in favor of reunification with New Delhi.

 

Argentine leader Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner also showed her support for the Russian Federation recalling that “the UN Charter stipulates the right of people to self-determination, which means that this rule should be applied to all countries without any exception”.

 

She compared the situation in Crimea with the one around the Falkland Islands, where a referendum was also held a year ago. The UN did not question the legality of the vote at that time, Kirchner reminded.

While we would be surprised to see China or India take up sanction-retaliating arms against the west, they are powerful and large nations to have on your side if the rest of the world cuts off trade or economic ties.

 

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Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:05 | 4575527 Millivanilli
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Angela Merkel can suck an egg.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:05 | 4575528 prains
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those aren't eggs

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:09 | 4575537 kliguy38
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then what are they hangin' from her strap on??

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:10 | 4575542 Mister Kitty
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Leave the Crimea problem to the Europeans.  It's their backyard.  Bitches.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:29 | 4575603 Ifigenia
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Hehe, but Vitoria Nulland, the person responsible for the present crisis, is a jew from USA

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:34 | 4575619 Troll Magnet
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Jews...SMFH

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:51 | 4575659 Freddie
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Criminal scum Nuland-Oligarch illegal govt in Kiev already disarming the populace.  Unreal.  Following the same pattern that they always follow.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/21/world/europe/ukraine-sets-deadline-for...

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 00:56 | 4575780 Boris Alatovkrap
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Boris is take moment of expression grateful to Yuri and Smyrna from Apartment Block 4A who is not say anything when Boris copper mine is go under fence and killing power on Apartment Block 5B.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:36 | 4575623 john39
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But obamao said that russia would isolated.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 01:03 | 4575789 Boris Alatovkrap
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Russia is history of isolation between Ural Mountain and Siberia, what is Barry No-Ball to be doing for isolation of Russia!? Polease! What is pansy boy expect!?

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 01:10 | 4575798 disabledvet
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best question ever. "only thing missing Clint Eastwood dressed as preacher."

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 01:40 | 4575835 CCanuck
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Get off My Lawn....Can you HEAR ME LORD...GET OFF MY LAWN!......AMEN BRother

 

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 05:33 | 4576034 matrix2012
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obamao did mean that russia would be isolated by the usa-nato-eu grand holy sinister axis

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 02:16 | 4575863 Joe A
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True but Nuland decided to fuck the EU.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 04:42 | 4576005 Ar-Pharazôn
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please tyler block this idiot.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:14 | 4575554 clooney_art
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America will always be viewed as an unreliable aly worldwide in its vaning years.

It has got a massive debt, cannot keep up its military expediture and has a fucked up central planing.

 

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:07 | 4575530 Skateboarder
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Yeah, it's called BRICS.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 00:03 | 4575678 palmereldritch
Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:09 | 4575536 Stuck on Zero
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There is one big difference between the U.S. and Russia when it comes to sending troops somewhere.  After a few years the U.S. gets tired and goes home.  Russia will stay hundreds of years.

 

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:16 | 4575562 kliguy38
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sure .....that's why we have 800 military bases in 200 countries......because we went home

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:40 | 4575637 Rock On Roger
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Yankee go home.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 00:32 | 4575723 Kirk2NCC1701
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Sign near Wiesbaden, Germany, that lasted < 1 day, before the Polizei took it down: "RAUS, SCHEISS AMIS!"

roughly translated ~ Out, damn Yankees!

To this day, there are still ~ 60,000 DOD, NSA and CIA forces, helping to keep Germany safe and free from Soviet Communism and Neo-Nazism. 

As someone of EU roots, I can say that they are ALL a bunch of scared, whipped sheep.  All talk, no action.  Not one significant party or politician dares to have a platform of "No US bases".  Of course now it's all hidden under the "NATO" umbrella -- as if it's anything but a bunch of DOD Groupies, looking for scraps of MIC contracts.  Sad but ture.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 01:12 | 4575801 disabledvet
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"save yourself while you still can! repent! the end of days is here!"

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 01:42 | 4575838 Uber Vandal
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Too late, Westboro Baptist Church founder Fred Phelps is dead.

 

 

 

 

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 04:45 | 4576009 Ar-Pharazôn
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oh fuck. finally the ugly bastard is gone.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 11:47 | 4577184 Ariadne
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Now the media will have to manufacture a new idiot to ridicule in order to avoid reporting the news. 

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:41 | 4575635 Ifigenia
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close the military bases in Europe and you would see the real democracy in play around Europe.

After the commies demised, russian troops were out of eastern Europe, but 20 years later, US is still occupying Europe, even expand to the east.  

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:22 | 4576267 RazvanM
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Tell that to Georgia, Moldavia, Ukraine, Poland, Finland, to the Baltic states and to other neighbours Russia invaded and terrorized. Tell that to the millions of people dead in the Russian Gulag after being removed from territories that now Russia claims are "motherland".

 

One big question: what does Russia produces of high quality that is sought of by people in other countries?

Nothing (except vodka and AK)? So this is the main reason they are <strong>always</strong> looking for war: they need to invade and pillage countries in order to survive. They need to use threats in order to obtain something from other countries. Their natural resources are one way to obtain quality goods that they cannot produce because of vast corruption. The other ways are through robbing. With Russia one cannot reason until having enough tanks.

This is not to say that regular Russians are worst than other people. They are normal people. It's just that their leadership is strong handed because it doesn't have anything else to offer. Think Koreea.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:44 | 4576354 Rylie
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You just described the USA to a tee.

 

Oh wait.... The USA produced Lady GaGa and Miley Cyris.

 

 

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 09:17 | 4576490 Sandmann
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Heavy industrial presses for one. Trucks. There is a lot of heavy duty engineering from Russia. You really should recall they can build submarines and aircraft and rockets that keep the US honest.

"They need to use threats in order to obtain something from other countries."

 

Are you describing the USA by chance ?

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 02:27 | 4575875 Independent
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Stuck on zero must be your IQ if as the gentleman above mentioned something you seem to not have noticed

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:12 | 4575539 adeptish
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Russia, China and India united...lotsa upside for them, not so much for the Banksters.

They would not need the USD.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:31 | 4575609 Freddie
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Putin is good.  Thanking China and India shows that he appreciates their friendship plus he rubs it in the noses of the IMF/NWO/ZATO/USAA-AmIsrael/EUSSR/Soros/Oligarch gangsters.

Here is a good one the other day on Ukraine with RT and Pepe Escobar.  Great stuff from Pepe. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyWpocW1Y9g

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:38 | 4575631 Jack Burton
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Pepe is a cool dude. I even friended him on facebook. He talks straight, not like the whore house sluts on CNN The Cable Nazi Network!

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:55 | 4575664 Freddie
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Pepe is awesome.  Check it out Jack. The Nuland-Oligarch illegal govt in Kiev is already trying to disarm the public especially the Nazis.  Yats says give up your guns.  I hope this shit starts to get real now and they go after the oligarchs.  Just like certain people always trying to disarm the serfs.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/21/world/europe/ukraine-sets-deadline-for...

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 00:13 | 4575700 Ifigenia
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if it is truth, than it would be a war between jews and nazis. Vitoria Nulland has sold her kins to topple a legitimate government.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 00:48 | 4575760 The_Prisoner
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The Neo-nazi bosses were all given jobs in the new Ukrainian government security apparatus. They effectively hold the monopoly of violence.

So by illegal firearms they mean the firearms held by the non-neo-nazis.

I feel for the common people of the Ukraine, they will all wish they were Crimeans soon.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 02:01 | 4575852 Arkadaba
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I agree. I'm sure  Nuland and all her supporters thought they could use the neo-nazis and then the 'moderates' would prevail. I don't think that is going to happen. These organizations are not going to be co-opted or fade away for a number of reasons including - as you noted - they have been given prominent roles in the interim gov. 

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 06:23 | 4576074 StychoKiller
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Ever see "Patterns of Force" episode from the original Star Trek series?

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 10:24 | 4576764 hot sauce technician
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Cool dude, but it wouldn't hurt if he'd change his shirt.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 00:34 | 4575737 Kirk2NCC1701
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It also shuts off a PR escape route for them, in case they want to back-pedal -- after similar US pressure as the EU pussies encountered.

Great move at PR-front-running.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 00:12 | 4575699 alfred b.
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     ...plus the fact that their combined population is near 2.8 billion is starting to worry  the west's bankster cartel !

 

 

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:11 | 4575547 One And Only
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Barry Soetoro got this bro.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:15 | 4575558 clooney_art
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This has been years in the making. Not just Barry's fault.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:33 | 4575577 NoDebt
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Yeah, but he sure as shit finished it off in grand style.  The perfect loser to put the period on the end of the sentance.

Here, everyone, just take everything you want.  We're so evil we owe it to you to give you a Free Buffet voucher.  Have at it.  Everything you ever wanted.  It's all yours.

You know what happens when the Alpha resigns leadership?  A lot of chaos and death.  Followed by somebody else just as evil and corrupt being in charge.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 00:09 | 4575676 Bonapartist
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There are a lot of schizophrenics on ZH- they fucking hate O but at the same time  he has refused to start serious shit in Syria, Iran, Ukraine etc.- if nothing else give the guy credit for telling the Neocons to fuck off- for now. I'm sure all of you armchair badasses will be the first to join up and go overseas and fight when AIPAC raises Old Glory and the bullets start to fly. Jesus H - we have enough problems here w/o playing world cop.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 00:15 | 4575704 Ifigenia
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but aipac merchants need to sell more bullets and arms

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 01:20 | 4575809 gallistic
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Yeah right! Saint Obama really deserves that Nobel Peace prize, right?

He did not "refuse" anything. His hand was forced toward "no war" by circumstance or better men than he in Iran, Syria, and Ukraine- big difference.

BTW, there was that whole Lybian ugliness (not war right?) and several ongoing dirty wars that you cannot even fathom and would vehemently deny exist, (think Colombia, Yemen, Pakistan, Somalia, Sudan etc.) on his record.

He has also planned and/or supported many successful and unsuccessful violent coups which you would also overlook and deny (Think Honduras, Bolivia, Ukraine, Ecuador, Egypt, Venezuela, etc...)

He certainly has not told neocons to fuck off. As a matter of fact, he employs neocons within his administration, That is patently false and he deserves no "credit" for anything.

He has drastically escalated unmanned strikes in several countries and has continued every despicable imperial practice, such as  taking over the internet, extraordinary rendition, espionage act convictions for whistleblowers, destroying the constitution etc...

Bonapartist wrote- "we have enough problems here w/o playing world cop"

Few people would disagree with that statement.

Unfortunately, Barak Obama is one of them.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 01:48 | 4575837 Bonapartist
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Obammy is a front man- like the mafia you never see the real leadership- you guys keep blaming him all you want- but that is exactly what TPTB want you to do- your anger is misdirected- as long as sacrificial lambs are put forth and people are duped nothing will ever change. I loathe all pols but they are just actors on a stage.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 01:52 | 4575847 gallistic
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I agree that sacrificial lambs as you call them, red/blue contests, and false differences are diversions frequently used.

However-

"but at the same time  he has refused to start serious shit in Syria, Iran, Ukraine etc."

"if nothing else give the guy credit for telling the Neocons to fuck off- for now"

I do not agree with that.

 

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 07:47 | 4576178 Comte d'herblay
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Yer absofuckinglutely right. However, even within figureheads, there is a vast variability in and among them.

And theBamster resides among the worst ever.

I'm not saying he has to swing his schwantz, like Kennedy, reagan, Johnson, lincoln, clinton or bush, BUT what he says has an effect that is less than if he just kept his mouth shut.

If he can't say something, albeit written for  him by his TPTB, then why dig himself a far deeper hole, demonstrating for all that his voters, those who put him office did so strictly because of his color (for blacks) his inexperience, and his connection with the Jewish mafia on Wall Street?

He needs to just, for the next 2 years, sit the fuck down, shut the fuck up and look straight ahead.

At least then he can do no more damage.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 01:29 | 4575812 socalbeach
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I think a lot of the ZH posters think Obama started the tensions in Syria, Iran, Ukraine, etc., and that he is gutless and not able to finish the job.  I don't agree with that assessment.  More likely it's the MIC, shadow government, etc. that started these various crises, and despite being president, he's not in complete control of the situation.  Seen in that light, his "weak" response could be an attempt to appease the hawks and gain political points by doing something to counter the "evil" Putin as portrayed by the media.

Despite being completely unqualified to be president, I'd much rather have Obama in charge (to the extent he is) of foreign policy instead of McCain, who he ran against in 2008.  On domestic policy, Obama is atrocious.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 01:39 | 4575833 Bonapartist
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The seeds for global discontent with the US were sown at Bretton Woods when the US dollar became the reserve currency- "Our currency- your problem" is now coming home to roost.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 07:53 | 4576200 Comte d'herblay
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McCain would may have attempted to be more than a saber rattler, but he too is in hock to the same men as the Bamster.

He can't take a leak without being told to by his men behind the curtain.

And he still would have to deal  with a Democrat majority. 

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 03:36 | 4575930 chindit13
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The US and Russia came to an understanding regarding Syria, each side going the Machiavellian route.  Putin doesn't want pipeline competition to Europe, and he has long been an avid supporter of Mideast tensions as a way to keep a premium on fossil fuel prices.

The US, which originally planned both humanitarian and military assistance to the opposition, saw the influx of jihadi types, at which point the institutional memory of the USG reminded all of how badly things turned out when outsiders joined with the Afghan mujahideen and got pumped full of the holy spirit.  In the end---especially after intel pointed towards Bandar bin Sultan as being behind the gas attack---US policymakers decided that enemies killing enemies was about the best that could come from the horror in Syria.

The concern now---one shared by everyone from Obama to Xi to Putin---is that the non-Syrian jihadis will one day return home to Detroit, Xinjiang, Chechnya and nearly fifty other countries, battled hardened and full of religious fervor.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 03:47 | 4575935 zionhead
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That's a great CIA narrative CHINDIT, but I don't believe a word of it,... for if it were true, then why does the USA (ZIO-NEO-CON) work so hard to have virtually eliminated all proof that Bin-Ladens was a CIA whore.

The whole story now starts in 1991,... but back in the day of 1980's everybody knew Bin-Laden was CIA, and now the ZIO-NET has cleaned the internet virtually free of this mind-view.

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I HOLD TRUE that today Al-Queda Xinjiang, Chechyna, syria, kazakhstan, and afghan ( all 20 bases worldwide ) never went off CIA payroll.
Sure they took out Bin-Laden, just like Noriega, and Saddam, and Kaddaffi, cuz they knew too much.

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The ZIO's would like nothing more than to make CHINA/RUSSIA/USA their bitch, but I don't see that happening.

Like now the killing in KUNMING and capture of MH-370, this shit is going to BLOW the ZIO-CON circle-jerk to bits.

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The MH-370 there are only two possible 'service' centers that could have taken control, by BUAP, they be Melbourne(CIA), or Singapore/Shanghai(MSS). For now I will assume Chinese gubmint didn't kill their own people, thus I will assume the CIA sent the plane to either a base US-MIL near Australia, or a base near Afghan; given chinese war ships heading to australian, they may know more than we.

[ MSS is chinese CIA, Singapore Shanghai speak the same language, so my feeling is the Singapore Service Center is in Chinese control, after all the CHINESE bought BOEING, from Israel the good shit ]

 

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 11:57 | 4577226 Element
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That got mighty close to a conspiracy theory right there chindit. No, actually, that was in fact a proper conspiracy theory.

Congrats, you've finally given over to the Darkside.  :D

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 07:38 | 4576157 Comte d'herblay
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Not being a news (so-called) watcher, I happened to catch a statement by Putin, followed by one from the worst POTUS in the last 6 years (Bush set the bar one millimeter above clinton) and if anyone can tell me that The Bamster is no more qualified than to be an aisle finder in a Sav-a-Lot grocery store, please do so and back it up.

He is a laughing stock for his total incompetence, as Bush was for his stupidity, and clinton for his lies, sociopathic sexual license in the Oral Office with 20 yr olds (nothing abnormal about a 50 yr old becoming a babbling idiot at the lubriciousness of a 20 yr old, with discretion). 

If I were Putin or any other countrys' leader, just for kicks, I'd toy with him like a cat with crippled canary.

We should all be collectively ashamed of this singularly inept figurehead.  A totem pole would be an improvement. 

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 09:45 | 4576595 swmnguy
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If you want to find a common thread in all the US overseas military and cloak-and-dagger adventures (Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Syria, Ukraine, Georgia, Tajikistan, Algeria, Mali, Sudan, Somalia, Columbia...I know I'm forgetting a lot of them), look for the fingerprints of Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzezinski.  Look at their direct involvement, indirect involvement, or the resumes of their proteges.  You have to keep a wide eye open; Tim Geithner, for instance, is a Kissinger protege.  US foreign policy has been remarkably consistent for over 50 years, if you look beyond the domestic partisan wrapping paper.  What Kissinger called "Realpolitik" and Brzezinski describes as the "Grand Chessboard" is all about how to run an empire in decline, which has great technology but is outnumbered, with an economic system dependent on infinite growth which is hitting the physical limites of a finite world.

It can't be an accident that Peter Sellers' character in "Dr. Strangelove" was a dead ringer for Kissinger, with some prescient Charles Krauthammer overtones.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:19 | 4575570 SgtShaftoe
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Thank god.  Finally US hegemony is cracking.  The sooner it breaks completely, the better outcome for humanity. 

 

The little people are tired of your bullshit.  Just leave us alone and out of your insane quest for power.  We want nothing to do with it.  We just want to kiss our children and dig in the garden. 

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:42 | 4575642 sessinpo
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SgtShaftoe    Thank god.  Finally US hegemony is cracking.  The sooner it breaks completely, the better outcome for humanity. 

 The little people are tired of your bullshit.  Just leave us alone and out of your insane quest for power.

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True, the sooner it happens the better humanity will be. But it will be little people that will pay the price as history has shown. When there are riots and revolt, the elite are hardly effected. On the other hand, you or your family are fighting just to survive.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 00:31 | 4575731 Ifigenia
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If there are riots and revolt, invading and killings others innocents human beings are no solutions. The best solution is find the cause of the mess and treat it. For example, tax the 1% accordinly to the destruction that they bring to the nation. Stop giving tens of billions dollars, anualy, to Israel, and it could make a big difference for the poor at home

Utopic thinking.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 04:49 | 4576011 Ar-Pharazôn
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tell this to the french king and the french nobility ;)

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:43 | 4575647 Troll Magnet
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Yeah, but Jews need you to take out loans. And they need you to pay taxes. Until you die.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 00:36 | 4575741 Kirk2NCC1701
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The US will truly prosper again when we get rid of all these parasites and Clingons. 

Even if it means having a Hard Reset first, as the Founding Fathers spoke/wrote about.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:24 | 4575571 socalbeach
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I have positioned myself (in retrospect, successfully) to take advantage of price inflation over the last few decades.  One way the neo-cons, or whatever you want to call them, could wage war against Putin and Russia is to cause a major global economic contraction that would crash commodity prices, including oil and gas.  In that case the strategy of positioning for inflation would have to be modified obviously.  I don't think this is likely, but I can't rule it out either.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 00:39 | 4575747 kashey
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Yesterday Putin was speaking to oligarkhs at Russian trade cgamber - he proposed them to withdraw all money from offshores, new taxes are applied ro offshore registered companies.
I think Crimea is just the beginning if major global change - Russia is turning to more sekf-isolationism, Putin is cementing hus regime and he needs an external enemy and even is eager to provoce as many sanctions as possible. Now it is not noticed, but at this very moment, while Russian public is enthusiastic about Crimea, he cracks the rest of civil rights. I support Crimea take over completely, it it and has ever been Russian, but I don't think Putin is a Russian patriot, he had never been, he always took care if Jewish oligarkhs only. And suddenly... So I think he used fireign circumstances for internal reasons, I see clear pretext for real dictatorship and isolationism in Russia and another real cold war as one if cinsequences.
Our econonic cinsequences are clear for me , think by yourselves about yours.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 01:23 | 4575814 Ifigenia
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and Vitoria Nulland help Putin by supporting a regime change in Kiev, creating a pretext to start this chane.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 06:47 | 4576098 matrix2012
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"... Now it is not noticed, but at this very moment, while Russian public is enthusiastic about Crimea, he cracks the rest of civil rights. I support Crimea take over completely, it it and has ever been Russian, but I don't think Putin is a Russian patriot, he had never been, he always took care of Jewish oligarkhs only. And suddenly... So I think he used foreign circumstances for internal reasons, I see clear pretext for real dictatorship and isolationism in Russia and another real cold war as one of consequences..."

 

@ kashey.

 

in addition to the little nuisance of those vocal typos ;-)  pls elaborate your following perplexing accusations:

he cracks the rest of civil rights -- what kind of civil rights? banning the gay promo?

 

he always took care of Jewish oligarkhs only -- which Jewish oligarch? late Boris Berezovsky, Mikhail Khodorkovsky, Igor Linshits, Roman Abramovich, Mikhail Prokhorov,... ???

 

- clear pretext -- so Putin got the CFR Nuland's hand helping him to increase his power domestically by staging the coup in Kiev... perhaps in pursuing the Grand Chessboard strategy???

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:21 | 4575579 post turtle saver
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if this is support I'd hate to see what condemnation looks like...

Xi Jinping has a tour of Europe coming up at the end of the month... we'll see how well he can balance China's need for Russian oil with China's need for European trade

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:34 | 4575618 Ifigenia
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we, in Europe, dont fancy any problem trading with Russia. The only problem is our banksters and quisling who work for the empire. They would have a lot to do to mantain their powers and influences if they sacrifice the sheeps for ziocons interests.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:37 | 4575629 undertowed
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Uh oh. BRICS is flexing some muscle.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:46 | 4575649 sessinpo
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They  have the gold. This is a currency battle. A battle to end the petro-US dollar.

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:42 | 4575645 The_Prisoner
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Reposting from early in the week. Questions about Russia and Ukraine to Pepe, Dimitri Orlov and The Saker. Three slightly different, yet interesting perspectives.

http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.in/2014/03/from-tlaxcala-ukraine-russia-and-world.html

 

Thu, 03/20/2014 - 23:43 | 4575646 zionhead
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Wow the title really map's to the facts, the CHINESE issue and abstention from voting, and ZH concludes that is support.

Since when is doing fucking nothing support?

When Russia says "THANK YOU CHINA", what they're really saying is "THANKS FOR NOT VOTING ALONG with the ZIO's"

VOTING don't mean SHIT at the UN, it don't mean shit on the streets of the USA,... if VOTING meant SHIT the ZIO's would have banned it years ago.

 

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 00:02 | 4575674 yrbmegr
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Since Russia has nullified the UN Security Council as a political entity, they will not be able to use it in the future when such might benefit them.  Power is like money  When you spend it, you no longer have it.  Putin is spending a great deal on Crimea.  He might come to regret it.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 01:38 | 4575832 Ifigenia
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i think the millions of innocent deaths and maimed in Iraq deserve at least some of our respect and remembrance, v.g., It is USA who nullified the UNSC as a political entity. 

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 00:41 | 4575713 Ifigenia
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Argentina is a better example. look at their vote UNSC and what Christina said.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 00:05 | 4575685 sangell
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In regards to India, I cannot help but remember a scene from the movie "Cool Hand Luke" where  Strother Martin, surrounded by his chain gang guards, looks down upon a weary and defeated Paul Newman and asks him if has 'got his mind right now'. India is not going to align herself with Putin and neither will China. Russia is not the geopolitical equivalent of Japan. Japanese population is 90% of Russia's and they are all Japanese. GNP wise Japan is 3 times the Russian economy. Russia called in a diplomatic card but holds a very weak hand.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 00:12 | 4575698 Bonapartist
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you're not weak when you have oil and nukes- many have made the fatal mistake of underestimating The Bear.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 00:21 | 4575717 Ifigenia
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Even Japan would not sanction Russia, or would you think their leaders are like the quislings in Europe working for the jew banksters?

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 00:08 | 4575689 williambanzai7
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And to the fringe low brows of Zero Hedge...who frown on NWO hypocrisy...

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 00:16 | 4575709 NDXTrader
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Well of course. They have land they want to grab too

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 00:51 | 4575764 Dr. Bonzo
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I agree. Hong Kong should take a note from Crimea's page and push for a secession referendum. Watch the Chinese support THAT shit.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 01:27 | 4575821 Ifigenia
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with a little CIA help, they could become gold traders, chineses are chineses, they would put money about everything, just like the jews. In USA who sold the country to China?

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 00:53 | 4575769 Global Observer
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While we would be surprised to see China or India take up sanction-retaliating arms against the west, they are powerful and large nations to have on your side if the rest of the world cuts off trade or economic ties.

Sure, especially if you are planning on launching a new international monetary/payment system that would bury the West for good.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 01:11 | 4575796 NDXTrader
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Why in the world would China or India side with Russia over the West in an economic fight? It would destroy their economies immediately and lead to revolutions in both countries. Both are absolutely and completely dependent on providing cheap goods and services to the West. Russia's economy is a speck of sand compared to that. Some people around here are really delusional.

This is because China wants Taiwan and those tiny Japanese islands and India wants the Kashmir. Why cause a stink over a section of land Russia claims and arguably would have had except for administrative reasons?

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 06:07 | 4576061 Global Observer
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Destroying the West economically will leave the emerging economies with more of the global resources for growth. India and China will prosper when the West collapses. Those who produce, can also consume. If necessary, they can export to the rest of the world on credit that can be later written off (essentially gift).

Those who think productive populations somehow "need" idle consumers are the deluded ones.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 12:39 | 4577354 Element
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"and India wants the Kashmir."

The Chinese are addicted to weapons and they sourced a lot of them from Russia or built them under license from Russia. Plus China is in a Strategic alliance with Russia, and China requires and wants Russian support in the East as backup to deter the US and Japan and make them spend more on expensive arms they find it hard to afford. Frankly, China needs Russia a lot more than Russia needs China.

India is a non-aligned country, it plays all sides and has obviously regularly done so for the past 15 years, since it re-confirmed its arsenal works. They are not going to take a side but they can be relied on to not provide anyone an advantage against any side either. And it is Pakistan that has been demanding 100% of Kashmir, not India.

If Taiwan is nuclear-armed, and it maybe by now, the Mainland is not getting it back. People forget the war-like history and thinking of that place since the mid-1950s. They will have pursued every weapon tech in the book. Their improvement in relations with the Mainland is relatively recent, they have been hedging their options. Most likely Beijing is going to have to really behave itself for a few decades for that rift to heal. It was not so long ago the Chinese were threatening to nuke and invade Taiwan. So don't expect Taiwan to just cave. The change in demeanor was caused by western and Japanese engagement with China, and if relations with China go bad, so will the relations between Beijing and Taipei. And these are generally going sour.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 01:39 | 4575834 Ifigenia
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you mean the IMF reform?

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 06:20 | 4576072 Global Observer
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IMF reform and the SDR as the trading/reserve currency is what the West should be pitching for and probably what the world will eventually settle into. However, I don't see how the US will voluntarily give up its privileged position in the international monetary system. It might become palatable after the US has already lost its privileged position. For that to happen a monetary system superior to the existing one should come into existence. The US is pushing Russia to bring forth that system, by threatening to exclude Russia from the current system. Once the US$ is dethroned by the BRICS trading currency, IMF reform and SDR as the reserve currency will come into existence because it will be the most broadbased international monetary system. I don't think the BRICS will wind up their new system, but leave it in place just to keep the West in check.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 01:09 | 4575793 q99x2
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Q99x2 is one of "all of those." Thanks Putin schmootin. Don't let your meat loaf. You're on a roll at kicken some bankster globalist ass.

Here's a hot tip if you need some money: "Buy Maxcoin." and help support the global insurrection against bankster occupation.

 

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 02:03 | 4575854 Notarocketscientist
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America is fucked - Russia knows it - China knows it - everyone knows it.

And they are demonstrating that they have no fear of this vile nation.

 

For the dumb fucks who are against Putin imagine this - Occupy goes to Wall St and camps out calling for justice and the overthrow of the corrupt government - Russia issues a statement supporting them and sends both arms and intelligence operatives to coordinate violent protests ---  Russia pays gangster thugs to participate in the protests.

 

Ukraine's government was democratically elected - yet the US did EXACTLY the above.    So surely you dumb fucking idiot bastards who are siding with the US would have to say YES - it would be ok for Russia to do the same.

 

If you can't understand that then you are even fucking dumber than I thought --- although I am not sure how anyone can be dumber than a dumb fucking idiot bastard.  So Congratulations!

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 03:52 | 4575940 the tower
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America is fucked - Russia is fucked - China is fucked - everyone knows it.

Taking sides makes you a dumb fucking idiot bastard.  So Congratulations!

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 06:15 | 4576069 overmedicatedun...
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those in power in america are not Americans, so when saying fukk the USA, to be more accruate one should say Fukk the NWO elite reptiles that have a death grip on power in the USA.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:25 | 4576274 Took Red Pill
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So true! Also imagine another country flying drones into the US and killing innocent people. How would Americans react to that? Watch the documentary "Dirty Wars" on Netflix to see how far we have gone.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 02:17 | 4575864 Joe A
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This Argentine president is pretty stupid because the people on the Falklands overwhelmingly voted for staying with Britain. Right to self determination and all.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 04:04 | 4575954 ebear
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You need to read up a bit more on Argentine history.  Trust me on this.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:17 | 4576258 Apostate2
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Why?

So you have any creditability more so than any other anonymous poster. Try defending your claim.

Man up Mr ebear.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 18:10 | 4578700 ebear
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Falklands war was begun by Argentine Military Junta as a way of directing attention away from its failure to manage the economy.  The loss of that war brought about a complete change in Argentine govt. Many of the perpetrators were put on trial and a new govt. formed.   The current govt. in Argentina, headed by Kirchner has nothing to do with the former regime.  Kirchner was merely stating the obvious: right to self determination as decided by a vote of Falkland Islanders, just as in Crimea.

All of which you could have found out yourself with only a little effort, but instead you tell me to "man up?"

A liitle butt hurt, are we?

Don't worry, you'll get over it.

 

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 02:28 | 4575877 illadeljim
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x

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 02:28 | 4575878 illadeljim
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Guess his intel didn't inform on grant to China for water and timber access after Russia is broken-up. 

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 03:09 | 4575903 Dr. Engali
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Fitch takes the U.S. off of credit watch negative just after S&P downgraded Russa. You can't make up a better comedy than this farce.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 03:34 | 4575927 chindit13
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The leaders of Poland, Estonia and Bulgaria have come out criticizing Putin’s grab of Crimea and have warned of more to come.  Putin might say “thanks” to China and India, whom he claims “understood our actions in Crimea”, but it seems that leaders of those countries formerly under the boot of Soviet occupation and control understand Putin’s actions just a little bit better.

Voice of Russia, no doubt a totally unbiased source, might be being a little presumptive, like Putin, thinking he has the support of China and India, but time will tell.

As for China and India themselves, one wonders who Putin will support when one or the other go all Putinesca and seize the border lands still in dispute, and at the center of a Indo-Chinese war five decades ago.

Oh, and Argentina?  ‘No friends’ is better than poor friends looking for money.

Putin criticizes Khrushchev for giving away Crimea in the 50s.  I wonder if he is equally critical of Alexander II for giving up “Russian America” to William Seward in 1867 for an inflation-adjusted $120 million?  Maybe akak is busy preparing to defend his homeland.  Of course, this current Zerohedge crowd would applaud Putin all the way to Brighton Beach, Russo-statist sheeple that they are.

 

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 04:08 | 4575959 ebear
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"The leaders of Poland, Estonia and Bulgaria have come out criticizing Putin’s grab of Crimea and have warned of more to come."

But of course.  You would do the same if your sinecure was threatened, no?   These people are politicians.  They represent themselves and nobody else.  Never forget that.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 22:20 | 4584090 gallistic
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+1 for the use of the word "sinecure".

If we truly understood that simple word and concept, we would improve debate and rational thought at least three-fold.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 06:40 | 4576087 Global Observer
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Wonder why you left Belarus out? Because its reaction doesn't suit your agenda?

The USSR and the Communist Bloc were units knit together by ideology. What Vladimir Vladimirovich is knitting together is based on ethnicity, culture and shared history. While Russia would like entire Ukraine, not just Crimea, to join them, they won't again take Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia or Poland in even if the others begged for it, let alone take them by force. Not that they have anything against the people of these countries, but just that they don't feel the same kinship towards them that they feel towards Belarusians or Ukrainians.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 12:05 | 4577244 Element
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Because the West planning to bomb and murder their way across Syria and concocting a false flag pretext that killed ~1,300 people like poison cockroaches was so much more respectable than a democratic vote in Crimea.

Right, chindit?

Sometimes you might want to reflect on the real world around you.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 03:59 | 4575948 Apostate2
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I'm having a laugh. Seems like the bear feels a wee bit alone in the forest. Better lumber home in case goldilocks has sat in all his chairs, slept in all his beds and ate all his porridge.

Just right.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 04:34 | 4575995 ebear
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"Seems like the bear feels a wee bit alone in the forest."

Bears operate as individuals, so in that sense they are always alone in the forest.  This fact makes them cautious, yet quick and decisive when action is required.  Bears are highly intelligent and will study a situation in great detail before making a move.

Fairy tale humor aside, the Bear is a perfect analogue to Russia.

Likewise, the Eagle to America.  The eagle swoops down and picks off its small, helpless prey one at a time, yet cannot evade the persistent attacks of well organized crows.

 

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 06:09 | 4576065 Apostate2
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Doh. Guess you do not take the metaphor a bit farther. Bears also ride bicycles in the Moscow circus.

But we all know the goldilocks economy.

Seems the Eagle 'operates as an individual' also yet have never seen an eagle in a circus riding a bike.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 22:17 | 4584082 gallistic
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*sigh*

Ok let's reduce this metaphor to absurdity.

Eagles are not smart enough, coordinated enough, physically capable of, and definitely not strong enough to pedal a bicycle.

What is the relevance of any of this?

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 05:30 | 4576032 basho
Fri, 03/21/2014 - 06:45 | 4576092 realWhiteNight123129
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Russia seems to be isolated with another 2.5 billion people. Humm...

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 07:47 | 4576182 fijisailor
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LOL.  The Falkland Islanders are going to vote to join Argentina?

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 11:20 | 4577044 Ariadne
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On the bright side they will take Microsoft with them and totally fuck up Russia's computers for the next 40 years.

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