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The Taming Of Deluded 'Conspiracy Theorists'
Submitted by Pater Tenebrarum of Acting-Man blog,
Valiant Knight of Government-Approved Information Rides to the Rescue
Look who is warning us again about the great harm conspiracy theories are doing to the minds of impressionable citizens everywhere: Cass Sunstein has emerged at Bloomberg, to once again plead for 'correction' of the many conspiracy theories that are disseminated on that pesky new medium, the intertubes, seemingly without inhibition. Contrary to the infamous paper in which he described how to precisely combat the spreading of false information that lacks the government's seal of approval, he doesn't list his favored censorship and disinformation techniques outright this time, but it is certainly implied that 'something must be done'.
With regard to conspiracy theories, there is a long history of dangerous thought entering the minds of deluded citizens. There were people who long doubted the official version of the Gulf of Tonkin incident, or those who believed that the government's minions were capable of thinking up other 'false flag' activities such as 'Operation Northwoods', or the poor confused souls who argued that Iraq's 'weapons of mass destruction' were a trumped-up pretext for war based on thoroughly politicized intelligence, or the mean-spirited traitors who charged that the US military killed a Reuter journalist and his helpers in Iraq and then covered it up, or the completely delusional paranoiacs who asserted for many years that the NSA was literally recording everything. Next they're going to say that the official version of the WTC attack lacks credibility, in spite of its enshrinement as unassailable truth following the government's decision to investigate itself!
We incidentally even know of certain people who routinely assert that the scientific and utterly wertfrei monetary policy enacted by well-meaning central banks is harmful and favors certain groups in society over others! Surely such highly dangerous attempts to foment popular dissent need to be properly suppressed before they irreparably disturb the social harmony of the Collective.
Also, consider for a moment the honest and well-intentioned politicians and bureaucrats who advanced the schemes listed above in the national interest. It was only their self-less concern for our well-being that drove them to make a tiny mistake here or there. By accusing them of nefarious motives, the conspiracy theorists have undoubtedly deeply hurt their feelings. It is an outrage crying out for rectification.
What 'Needs to Be Done'
Cass Sunstein certainly knows what needs to be done to ensure that the geistige Volksgesundheit is maintained. The intertubes simply must be corralled to reduce the great harm all this conspiracy theorizing inflicts. In his 2008 paper 'Conspiracy Theories' written with Adrian Vermeule, he proposed the following eminently reasonable measures:
- Government might ban conspiracy theorizing.
- Government might impose some kind of tax, financial or otherwise, on those who disseminate such theories.
- Government might itself engage in counter-speech, marshaling arguments to discredit conspiracy theories.
- Government might formally hire credible private parties to engage in counter-speech.
- Government might engage in informal communication with such parties, encouraging them to help."
Surely number (1) would be most effective and help to conserve resources. But where would be the fun in that? Intellectual combat with the deluded masses is surely more satisfying. We are therefore informed that:
However, the authors advocate that each "instrument has a distinctive set of potential effects, or costs and benefits, and each will have a place under imaginable conditions. However, our main policy idea is that government should engage in cognitive infiltration of the groups that produce conspiracy theories, which involves a mix of (3), (4) and (5)”
We should be grateful that these social engineers are thinking up such excellent ways of protecting the already overloaded neural circuits of the citizenry. Incidentally, it seems actually quite possible that the NSA has heard about these useful proposals, considering that its agents “Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and Destroy Reputations” according to Glenn Greenwald. See, we are already protected!
As a result, have every reason to feel all 'snuggly and secure', as Mark Fiore points out in the video below, which nicely summarizes why we have absolutely nothing to fear.
Snuggly and secure! You have nothing to fear, citizen! As long as you have nothing to hide, are not blowing any whistles you treasonous leaker, or exhibit undue interest in the Bill of Rights.
Techniques of the Demagogue
Sunstein's recent Bloomberg article is quite interesting though in that it nicely demonstrates the demagogic techniques employed in advancing statist interests. One can immediately see that he has learned a few lessons from the push-back he received the first time around. As noted above, he refrains this time from telling us in detail what government should actually do in order to 'reduce the harm from conspiracy theories'.
He merely asserts that such harm exists, encouraging readers to think about how it might be reduced. He mentions in closing that 'we' need to “persuade the conspiracy theorists to find their way around to the truth”, but he doesn't say how.
Whenever an author invokes 'us', asserting that 'we' must do this or that, what he really means is actually that the government's apparatus of coercion and compulsion must be set into motion to attain certain goals the author approves of. In recent weeks we have e.g. heard that 'we' must bail out the Ukraine financially, or that 'we' must punish Mr. Putin and his henchmen with sanctions, but this is of course not a call to voluntarily engage in these activities. It is simply an announcement, informing us that those steering the government apparatus will do all these things. 'We' only figure in the sense that 'we' are going to pay for it all (and certainly not voluntarily).
So when Sunstein says that 'we' must 'help' those poor deluded conspiracy theorists, he is actually saying the same things he was saying before, only in a less direct manner. It means the government must intervene.
The other technique on display is the 'straw man' technique. Discussing conspiracy theories in detail, Sunstein deliberately lists many that can either be very easily disproved, or of which it can be assumed that most readers will immediately classify them as nonsense.
At one point he tries to assure us that his approach is evenhanded by conceding that a number of conspiracy theories have later turned out to be the truth, but he immediately reverts to his previous condescending tone, belittling those who show an interest in investigating government misdeeds. He lists three examples: the Watergate scandal, the CIA's MK Ultra program, and the fact that 'aliens have really landed in Roswell' - in other words, he only lists two examples and immediately downplays their importance by adding a plainly ridiculous third one to the list.
Degrees of Harm
It could even be conceded arguendo that Sunstein succeeds in demonstrating that harm is sometimes inflicted, as e.g. in the context of conspiracy theories surrounding vaccines (we actually don't know what these theories assert, not having delved into the subject in detail; however, the history of modern medicine certainly suggests that a great many scourges that have plagued mankind have been successfully vanquished with the help of vaccines).
So it may be true that there are a small handful of cases when belief in a conspiracy theory might actually harm those believing it. But so what?
Sunstein's proposals as formulated in his original paper (and we have no reason to believe that he has changed his opinion on these points) are infinitely more harmful. Life is never without risks, but the wrongheaded belief held by social engineers that the government must eliminate every last one of them by intervening in every nook and cranny of our lives can ultimately only end in tyranny.
The ubiquitous and all-encompassing surveillance state that has been installed to allegedly 'protect us from terrorists' is actually an excellent example of how extremely misguided these attempts to shield us from every conceivable evil are. The reality is in this case that the threat is statistically minuscule; as we have previously noted, more Americans die from drowning in their bathtubs and even from merely falling off a chairs than from terrorist attacks. And yet, no-one has proposed to spend tens of billions every year to keep tabs on the citizenry's evil furniture, at least not yet. The danger that the gathering of every last scrap of data will be abused is orders of magnitude greater than the danger emanating from terrorists.
Central bank policy is yet another example: the attempt to spare us the pain of economic busts only leads to even bigger economic catastrophes down the road. This has only recently been demonstrated when the interventions following the bursting of the technology bubble resulted in its replacement by the housing bubble. In the end, a far more painful recession than the one the initial intervention sought to mitigate resulted. The same principle will be demonstrated again when the current echo bubble bursts at some point in the future.
The Conspiracy Theory of History
Finally, it should be clear that what one might term a 'conspiracy theory of history' often comes a lot closer to the truth than the officially approved line that is taught in public schools. The one thing that should be clear to every astute observer is that governments routinely lie. They sometimes even admit it, such as JC Juncker did in his function as president of the euro group of finance ministers (this incident serves as an example of how brazen the ruling class has become in modern times; they don't even care anymore how transparent they are).
The fact that governments are lying routinely and are keeping a great many of their activities secret in allegedly 'free societies' is what provides the fertilizer for conspiracy theories. Even in the rare cases when governments tell the truth, many people are no longer inclined to believe them. Distrust of government is however not akin to a mental disease – it is rather a sign that one is alert and keeping one's eyes open. It is also a necessary and healthy approach that provides a small, but important contribution to keeping government abuses in check.
As Murray Rothbard pointed out:
“Anytime that a hard-nosed analysis is put forth of who our rulers are, of how their political and economic interests interlock, it is invariably denounced by Establishment liberals and conservatives (and even by many libertarians) as a "conspiracy theory of history," "paranoid," "economic determinist," and even "Marxist." These smear labels are applied across the board, even though such realistic analyses can be, and have been, made from any and all parts of the economic spectrum, from the John Birch Society to the Communist Party. The most common label is "conspiracy theorist," almost always leveled as a hostile epithet rather than adopted by the "conspiracy theorist" himself.
It is no wonder that usually these realistic analyses are spelled out by various "extremists" who are outside the Establishment consensus. For it is vital to the continued rule of the State apparatus that it have legitimacy and even sanctity in the eyes of the public, and it is vital to that sanctity that our politicians and bureaucrats be deemed to be disembodied spirits solely devoted to the "public good." Once let the cat out of the bag that these spirits are all too often grounded in the solid earth of advancing a set of economic interests through use of the State, and the basic mystique of government begins to collapse.”
(emphasis added)
And this, in a nutshell, is what is really behind Mr. Sunstein's concern with 'conspiracy theories'. It is all about preserving the State's perceived right to rule by letting nothing intrude on the notion that politicians and bureaucrats are 'disembodied spirits solely devoted to the public good' rather than people who pursue their own personal interests.
Former government advisor Cass Sunstein: still concerned about 'conspiracy theories'
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Even fonestar got accused of being part of some conspiracy to pump Bitcoins. What's this world coming to?
PLease brush up on your math because that is the next thing they will attack you with.
Cass is the first guy on The LIST
Fuck Cass Sunstein
Thanks, Knuk. You beat me to it.
Always amazes me how maniac statists/control freaks/sociopaths like him telegraph EXACTLY what they're going to do and then a few years later, despite all the protests and public outcry.... damned if it doesn't happen anyway.
Look forward to meeting all my fellow ZH'ers in the FEMA camps a few years from now (and the Tylers, too!). We're all marked men.
I hope this asshole, Cass Sunstein, is found one day raped by a remotely-controlled bulldozer-drone, sprayed on by a skunk, and given a clean bill of health by the (very!) Affordable Care Act.
Looney
This is another outstanding example of the "new Left" Bringers of Freedom, Equality, Justice, Love, Tolerance and Diversity, Forced and Shoved Down Your Throat at the Point of the Spear, and Fear in the Form of Terror Tactics, the Police State 3 AM Knock Upon Your Door.
The Very Same Folks Who Hated Every Last Bit of Authoritarian Control as Young Men, Fighting What They Believed to be an Overpowering System, Stripping Individual Rights in Favor of The State
This, to What They Have Come
Demigods and Demons
Evil Incarnate
After Uncle Knukles’ comment, I need something comforting… something like a 20-y.o. left nipple (preferably a female nipple) to suck on. ;-)
Looney
P.S. A goat nipple will do just fine... left or right... as long as the goat-bitch don't flirt with me... TOO much... ;-)
Cass Sunstein and his ilk are very agitated. The term 'conspiracy theory' no longer has a negative connotation. This forces them into discourse with people they perceive as being intellectually inferior, where before, they could simply label an adversary a 'conspiracy theorist' and end all debate. It's tiresome for them.
The perceived anonymity of the Internet has certainly lowered inhibitions for 'acceptable' discourse, but that is not all. For many, the economic decline is now undeniable. People are feeling threatened, and the instinctive need to protect oneself is beginning to surface. When people feel threatened they group together and the ideas of the group AKA tribe (family, friends, ethnicity, or whatever) become elevated above the ideas of outsiders, regardless of facts.
I once heard Alex Jones claim that the government is engineering homosexual fish. Sometimes the conspiracies go a little too far. Bitches.
Start here ==> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaDqNDLpZa8
-Chumblez.
what's happening is that all of the psych meds and other medspeople are taking are being washed into the sewers and then are not killed by the sewage treatment plants...then the fish eat the treated human waste as it is pumped off shore and are basically taking your meds and absorbing into their bodies (along with the decaying plastic soup).
figure the ocean life (coastal areas) soon are going to make the 'mercury' grand lakes fish look like Organic free swimming fish in next 10 years.
middle east fish are safer because they have only been munching on the corpses of people in the Tigris and Euphrates.
We're all still wondering why you chose your name.
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http://names.mongabay.com/data/1000.html
Here is the most common last names in America. Is it a conspiracy that the top 50 last names never seem to show up very often as key journalists, economists, politicos etc. etc. Oh there are a few out there....but predominently you find, um, well few slightly more obscure lasts names. Just a conpiracy theory I am working on.
Hatfield and McCoy made the list...
Well now more than ever AIPAC has a problem with 'non approved thinking'.
The NSA spy racket is the most profitable biz in America, social networking is hot, every zio-spawn is a billionaire.
But 'non approved thinking' is now over 50%, ... its amost 60%, which means that something BIG must be done.
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The zio-con that can come up with SOFTWARE solution, that can elmininate 'non conventinal thinking' will be the next billionaires,
You got an idea about an app or service that can get the public thinking correctly, and you be the next billionaire.
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The problem is IHMO you have carrot&stick, of course the USA already has the most people in prison, and the most children on drugs, and AIPAC is still losing the "WAR ON TRUTH".
How can you win the WAR ON TRUTH, I suspect peer pressure, people who voice unpopular ideas should be physically harmed publicly, that should shut them up.
Here's an idea publicly disclose the location of people who voice anti-AIPAC talking-points, ... that should quickly SHAME anybody that voice "THEIR OPINION" on the internet.
Trouble is anonymity must be destroyed ASAP.
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Internet is useful, you can track the trouble makers, but as yet you cannot shut them up, or change their tune. It's coming.
All are now drones, ... and all must speak the AIPAC talking-points, if your not on the program, and dialed in, then you need to be re-educated, that means CAMP-FEMA.
The list(s) are now done, they know exactly who are the trouble makers, and example must be made ASAP, just saying its coming.
I like your thinking Zio. Everytime time I see a name that's not "Smith" or "Johnson" or "Calhoun" in the media I Google it and guess what....it's dark out there as you say. Always a "Kirchik" or a "Sustein" or a "Nudelman" running the gamot defending the status quo. Their favorite theme is to suggest that things are all pretty much NORMAL, nothing to see, how about a little more stimulus or another war....it was always like this, right? You are correct in that more and more Billionaires are Tribe and the simple answer is the financiers and media congloms together can make or break a social network type media. How dis Zuckerberg become the guy on top with all those other guys involved? He got the backing and was instructed to throw his pals off the train.
Samsung phones remote filesystem access backdoor.
"Samsung Galaxy devices running proprietary Android versions [the software that came with the phone] come with a back-door that provides remote access to the data stored on the device. In particular, the proprietary software that is in charge of handling the communications with the modem, using the Samsung IPC protocol, implements a class of requests known as RFS commands, that allows the modem to perform remote I/O operations on the phone's storage. As the modem is running proprietary software, it is likely that it offers over-the-air remote control, that could then be used to issue the incriminated RFS messages and access the phone's file system."
"While we don't have any absolute certainty regarding other Samsung Galaxy devices [than Nexus S, Galaxy S, Galaxy S 2, Galaxy Note, Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy Tab 2 7.0, Galaxy Tab 2 10.1, Galaxy S 3, Galaxy Note 2], it is likely that any other such device in its 3G flavor is affected by the back-door as well, as it probably uses the Samsung IPC protocol with the same proprietary user-space implementation."
"Alternatively, the kernel could block the incriminated RFS requests and keep a trace of them in the logs for the record. That option would work for CyanogenMod, where the incriminated proprietary blob is still used."
Privacy apartheid?
Non approved thinking. What a great construct. That sums things up very well.
hardly the "new left"- this is the same group of Bolsheviks that killed 50 million Russian Orthodox Christians- the new boss is the same as the old boss.
Progressives aka the new left, the slow cook version of the Bolshevicks, wouldn't hesitate to take out 150 million if they stood in the way. In fact, they already mentally took out most of the population.
I think this Progressive Platform should go a long way to unmask them.
End of Innocence
Think for yourself,
Know the promise of reality, and renounce your claim to innocence.
Then, with new resolve, enter the battle of freedom and dignity for every sentient being,
and never doubt the power of one man to change the world.
Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.
Thanks Future Jim!
Well said.
This is another outstanding example of the "new Left" ...
Excoooose meeeee! Sunstein is just another Jonathan Kay (Foundation in Defense of Democracies stooge, who wrote that anti-truther book, casting aspersions without anything factual to back it up), just another form of very bad Jew (e.g., Summers, Geithner, Rubin, Levitt, Martin Feldstein, Alan Greenspan, Bernanke, Yellen, Mishkin, etc., etc., etc.
There are good Jewish-Americans, and far too many bad ones today, which should wake up people to why there were pograms in the past, and why so many throughout history have been universally despised!
Sunstein represents the worst of humanity, and like Gerard Celente says, the problem today with Amerika is "bullets, bombs and banks; Harvard, Princeton and Yale" --- and those last three should be immediately nuked, and all those on their faculties destroyed!
(Also, why did The Guardian censor 9 out of 10 of my technical comments on that missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370? For what possible reason would they have? Was it an MI6/CIA extreme rendition operation after all? Makes one really wonder, now don't it?)
It's truly funny that we talk about being put in Fema camps and meanwhile you can walk into any high end establishment in NYC and the place is filled with Russians laughing it up and using C-notes as bar napkins.
The RUSSIAN Oligarch's that drop $100 notes on the floor at ZIO-Eatery's in NYC are NOT who Cass Sunstein fears.
Cass Sunstein fears the HAIR-LIP, the USA proles, the vast majority of unwashed goyim, who need to have CORRECT-THINKING pounded into their little minds.
AIPAC ( CASS SUNSTEIN ) doesn't fear Russian's, they fear ameriKKKan's.
Cass Sunstein doesn't fear the 1%, he fears the 99%.
They only want to control the mass indigenous population- the easy prey. People with means who can move around are harder targets.
Knuckels, YOU DON"T "FUCK Cass Sunstein, HE FUCKS YOU.
Just ask Barry "May I have another" Soetero.
Cass Sunstein IS THE CONSPIRACY FACT INCARNATE.
meh. looks like a rank amateur to me. I imagine he's cheap next to paying 25 million an hour to keep "the media" on "Message 777."
the trade craft is pretty simple: you have to have a cover story, and it must be credible.
In other words "no Mongolian Horde."
That makes your cover story "as incredible as it actually is" and thus "open to suspicion."
Overlay this with "the blow horn of the media" and pretty soon "message now control you" to paraphrase our Russian Compatriot in these here parts.
In other words "complain about missing plane enough long and soon finger points at you."
Sustein is just another in the closet homo blowing shit out his ass for his day job.
"the Mongolian Horde as arrived"...who did it and why will be part of a "debating subroutine" i've been working on for my students in "Advanced Rhetoric: from Socrates to Nietzche."
The first chapter is entitled "Gibberish: not just a word."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6xyV68KN5A
hard to imagine these are actually serious actors.
then again...maybe the "serious actors" are the ones running this thing.
........Cass Sunstein is the Joseph Goebbels of the Obama administration
he must wax that bald head
The guillotine list just got longer.
CTV Confirms [Canadian] Government(s) employing Internet Trolls, Shills & PR Agents to 'correct misinformation'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpVUYGcgtjw
Creating "The List" would be a good start.
Suggest that everyone begin thinking of one themselves for now. Compare notes at a later date.
But a good start it would be.
There's only 278 more shopping days until Christmas.......
Don't forget his wife.
His, and hers ropes..
Maybe an Immortal can post a sexy picture of his wife, there's lots of x-rated photo's of her floating out there in cyber space.
She's HOT
Samantha Power, USA Ambassador to the UN, and Spokes-Zionist for the World.
Hot?? Hope yer not serious, she's a fucking boot.
We're on the same page Billy. Well done.
So you've pegged yourself to WB7's photoshops?
No. if that were the case, he would call himself the Banzai7ist
Call me a conspiracy theorist here...but I'm seeing a pattern ;-)
I think we're all familiar with 3, 4, & 5 of Der Fuhrer's directives: They're called fucking Israeli Trolls constantly pissing all over the threads all over the net as soon as criticisms are voiced about them.
Now I've got to add a disclaimer to show that I have nothing against decent jewish folks, just zionists who are the opposite of, blah blah fuck it. They've insulted me and made false accusations of 'racism' enough times to make me gag even though I have stood up for decent people of all races and religions most of my adult life. Evil fuckers like this bastard who will be copied by the shitheads in my parliament to make brain dead servile nodding heads of us all.
Why not just cut to the fucking chase and order ball gags on every citizen? Thumbscrews for anyone who types dissent?
Fuuuuuck! Does he not fucking realise what an evil shit he is? HOW DARE HE TELL ME WHAT TO THINK. I'm going to need a tall glass of beer.
Excellent rant...lol.
Personally, I'm always amused when people call me a racist in order to shut me up, knowing I'm from the South. The child I found in the middle of nowhere, as the cars and trucks went blasting by him hurrying on to somewhere, even with all the tears glistening down his black cheeks against the setting sun, thinks otherwise.
Its somehow enough for me & him to know though ;-)
I love my country but fear my goverment and the corporations that control it . . . .
That one's going to be tricky nmewn:
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf
Sunstein is an insane neocon turd subscriber to the notion that deception and lie is always best. We all see you.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Jt73_ZqjxwY/TwTul7xyzUI/AAAAAAAADxA/QU3lZRMWn3...
It's not us destroying the propaganda's effectiveness Sunstein, it's your endless tidal wave of lies - well done! You did it for us! Even your stupid attempt to redirect and lie, all the more, is an absurd joke. You're just another pustulating boil on the ass of the world, promoting destruction and impoverishment in the name of laughable fake high-principles you clearly don't give damn about, you dweller in the amoral bog-of-eternal-stench.
you made me laugh!
but after helping some vacuate their boils with hot cups (yuk, yuk and fkn yuk), I wanna be sick on your anology :(
It's obvious why they are doing it. To stay in power - peroid. When the brown stuff hits the fan there will be revolutionists among the populous. Find out who they are and silence them quickly should help to keep them in power longer, that's it. The rest of the stuff about terrorism; all made up to maintain the surveillance system, funding etc.
I fucking hate* clowns
* it's a controlled hatred
guys like that explain the sword I own and practice with...
Nah, Murf...
In that deck of cards Cass is a joker, tops. Probably at the same level of Ari Emmanuel and Harvey Weinstein.
It only took a scan-read to figure out what CONstein's SUBTEXT message was/is:
"WE are in control: We control the Horizontal, We control the Vertical. We define the Debate."
Unlike so/too many here, I'm not going for their weak attempt at Sophistry, by repudiating his entire thesis and premise. Try again, or get a real job, CONstein.
you see the reason i am fairly certain there is no god is that people like cass sunstein still exist
What's this world coming to?
<---thanks for your input bonestar, it's really really helpful
a parallel universe, where electronic 1's and 0's are thinking they're somehow better and more useful than somebody who can put hand to hammer and fashion a home. In other words the fucking retards are trying to take over.......get it pony boy!
The Don Corleone of AIPAC speaks, and people listen.
Bloomberg thanks for allowing the real god to tell us what to think.
Certainly Samantha Power and her hubby know what our little GOYIM minds should think or not.
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Watch this guy carefully troops, he is the enemy, and if he was his way all sites such as this will be illegal everywhere on earth.
I believe his policies relate more toward Russia pre WWII and Nazi pre WWII.
Cass Sunstein is the spawn of Meyer Lansky.
Going back to the 1920's these are crime family's made good, not unlike the Kennedys.
Just study the history of JDL, ADL, and AZC and how these zio-neo-con's muscled their way to power, and destroyed the USA.
* ZIO-NAZI's have been writing ALL USA policy since 1910+
Their are policy's are not just similar, they are the same.
Virtually every policy written today, was written for HITLER, back in the day by the ZIO's who put HITLER in power.
There is a disturbing similarity no doubt.
Radical ruler...
Jack Torrance: It's his mother. She, uh, interferes.
Delbert Grady: Perhaps they need a good talking to, if you don't mind my saying so. Perhaps a bit more. My girls, sir, they didn't care for the Overlook at first. One of them actually stole a pack of matches, and tried to burn it down. But I "corrected" them sir. And when my wife tried to prevent me from doing my duty, I "corrected" her.
Admittedly I used to subscribe to many right wing, whackjob, conspiracy theories. Sadly, they were proved to be factual, leaving me with nothing other than speculation on the existence of Bigfoot.....
The mutation from Conspiracy Theories to Fact over the past 20+ years has proven every bit predictable as the sun rising in the East.
In fact, a careful analysis of that which is termed Conspiracy Theory, is generally deemed to be such in its very labeling, as a tool of diminution and distraction, a fundamental step in the propaganda matrix to refute via diversion of attention away from the real elemental topic, that which has been discovered, in part, which is desired by those propagating such, to remain hidden.
Discredit and Divert
Deny and counter accuse. Bankster attorney said we had tin foil hat theries regarding the illgal foreclosure they were trying to gin up. We attacked bigtime accusing them of using forged docs. Today I get a proposed motion from the Plaintiff's attorney to withdraw. Nope. Will object. They want out because I asked for sanctions. Banksters, above their greed, are ultimilty cowards who employ people who are not that smart.
It is a sport now with my crowd. Live in your home for free (tax and ins of course) and attack the scumbag attorneys.
I don't want to hear from any bank stooges. I am a deadbeat, but what a life style!
Interesting....
Starve the Virus...
Until it eats itself
good for you - never stop never give in to the scumbag banksters
In the process of commenting on an article on anti-vaccination conspiracists in yesterday's issue of The Daily Beast I looked up the definition of "paranoid" in my MacBook's dictionary. The last example cited is particularly interesting, and germane to this discussion: "• suspicion and mistrust of people or their actions without evidence or justification : the global paranoia about hackers and viruses."
Yup. There is clearly no justification for being concerned about hackers and viruses. If you believe that stuff you must be paranoid.
You can't make this sh*t up.
......... my cat goes nuts when i have the ceiling fan running in my den, at first I thought the poor cunt was nuts until i realized he looked up before making a mad scramble for the other room; quick glance up then belly on the floor and run like fuck doing his version of a tokyo drift on the hardwood trying to get around the corner before the fan "gets" him.
didn't know where this fear was coming from until on day i was sitting out back "pulling" weeds and i clued in, we have a healthy population of eagles, osprey and maybe worst of all owls in our area, if it's above his furry little head it's out to eat him appears to be his view of the world...... every now and again I give him a saucer of beer ........ never let him out of the house afterward though...... that would be cruel.....
... so yeah I have no issue with being parnoid actually seems kind of natural; survival instincts take many forms....
Conspiracy Theory = Logic, reasoning, common sense, the undeniable historical record, geo-political analysis, the scientific method, the testimony of credible professional sources and established Laws of Physics that challenge the synthetic narrative of the criminal ruling state.
Hence the diminuative classification from the pimp's minions: conspiracy theory
They (all of you fuckers) are going to need a better defense than that when they are arraigned before the Truth Commission.
It awaits
Just show us the damned aliens already, that's the only conspiracy theory left isn't it?
Well the Queen having Diana killed is still out there, but the Royal family are actually lizard aliens so don't know if it qualifies.
Not lizards,
Dragons.
Wasn't that the point of 'The X Files' and 'V' and all the other shows on the boob tube? - revealing our alien overlords and those that serve them, so that when the truth is formally announced people won't totally freak out but say "Yup.... knew it all along......"
Commoditization. You're talking about commoditization.
You mean "when the "truth" is formally announced people won't totally freak out and realize that the fuckers are DEMONS, not aliens".
ummm..."how come we have trillion dollar deficits and how come no one saw that coming?"
we'll skip the whole part about "paying for it all."
by deception....
that might be true...but don't they have a "codename" or something for it?
You know..."when the trillion dollar deficit hits we're going to Plan Omega-3 Delta."
And what about the secret handshake and the "ring finger communicators"?
I means...this sounds serious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPeFvNmARnQ
By land , by sea or by deception...Paul Revere should have included the third category. But then he couldn´t foresee this tech thing. But...they are coming.
Turn on the TV and you'll be Demigoded<> Folklorded TOO Death in 30 seconds!
Doritoes,pizza, Refies, loans, cars,houses,safety,ect...
That is one "master" that this slave got rid of. TV is a waste of time, totally. OK, Cramer on acid is amusing.
Good on ya!
TV is for idiots !
Cass is just pissed because people aren't blindy following the most transparent administration ever.
Are we heading for 12 Monkeys or just The Road?
Both, depending on location, with a variable mix of Blade Runner/Total Recall/Running Man/Hunger Games thrown in should you happen to live in one of those UN-protected 'Enterprise Zones'... as I apparently do.
In all those movies there is always an ugly bitch running the show, and SHE always looks like me.
[ 12 monkeys, brazil, ... ]
Truth is stranger than fiction, fiction must make sense. - twain
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Most likely 12 monkeys for years to come, the ELITE will live forever, the proles will be slaughtered.
The BOOK OF ELI, is apt as well
MAD-MAX is right on, and we have it now, the cops on the rampage right now, like the NSA & CIA.
Just try to tell me Cass doesn't have erotic dreams about Joseph Goebbels
He's definately on the list, but he's got to do way better to get past Jamie Dimon!
Fucking... bald spot... gleaming.... to a burning shine with Mister Clean.... blinding me into sub...mis...sion......
We are the Borg. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us.
Chick magnet; "high forehead" and Karl Malden schnozz. Guy has got to have the pussy flying off the shelf at him.
Will somebody please beat this all around asswipe and professional liar into a pulp?
Hey this 'kingmaker' put OBAMA in power, he's the swinging dick, at the Chicago Bath house that made Obama the "GIMP" he is,
Careful of advocating harm to the swinging-dick of AIPAC, or you may get a visit from the secret service.
Certainly. Send him over.
Malaysian officials even claimed that the plane may have already landed when it made contact with a satellite!
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Oh my god, somebody ought shut-up these "Malaysian Officials", the that the plane may hae already landed when latter signals were recieved that goes against zio-talking point's.
http://thediplomat.com/2014/03/what-flight-mh370-tells-us-about-the-us-i...
The Diplomat as always can clear up conspiracy theory's, so 'talking points' are correct and consistent on all subjects.
Can someone explain to me why a guy named Cass Sunstein who writes for Bloomberg would be worried about "conspiracy theories" getting out and threatening the status quo? I don't get it.
LTER that maroon" Cass Sunstien" exists because of his(it's) ability to stir the boiling cauldron of MSM feces...
Because most are too close to the truth if not down right the truth.
cass sunstein is a totalitarian idiotic diembodied communist cunt....
cass - is it a conspiracy theory to say that michelle obama is a man? she most emphatically is a man but she parades as a woman. why are he and barack conspiring to hide his identity??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fVAXqKugXkg
A zionist telling me there is no conspiracy against us - the people of the world.
Our fathers died in WW2 to give you the right to speak your garbage.
In fact my father probably freed your forebearers from Auschwitz.
No need to say thank you....
One thing though - History and cycles have a unique and ironic way of evening everything out.
In fact, I think Putin has a hate on for zionists......
Best tread carefully
That's NOT how they see it. Germans lost both wars, but ZIO-NAZI's won.
The Zionists engineered WW1 & WW2, they played everyone like fiddles.
The outcome of WW2 was QUID-PRO-QUO, Hitler & wife sent to South America,
Nazi scientists sent to USA.
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Cass Sunstein is a ZIO-NAZI, and he don't see sacrafice he just see GOYIM sheep that need to be led to the correct pasture for feeding and slaughter.
Never forget that no war's were about your freedom, or your right to dispute with your MASTER.
This narrative that war 1&2 were about personal freedom is complete bullshit.
All war is about THEFT, and proles must be SOLD war, or the loot shared,
IMHO Cass Sunstein doesn't give a flying fuck about your or your family's sacrafice, he only care's about what you think.
Our fathers died in WW2 to give you the right to speak your garbage.
A point that needs to be made much more often.
While a good number of those always beating the drums for war against Syria, or Iran, or Russia, are Jewish, 2.5% of the population, it is worth noting that one of the areas they are very under-represented in is the US Military.
Although they are still over-represented in command positions relative to their numbers.
Just ask General Weinstein, who is a beneficiary of Obama's {i.e. his masters'} purge.
Jews certainly played a large role in getting the US into WW1, even though tens of millions of German and Irish Americans, and Americans generally, were opposed to getting involved. Balfour and Palestine and Zion.
Don't believe me? Why not spend 5 fuckin' minutes googling it, more if you're honest enough not to easily dismiss every source saying so, a priori, as "antisemitic" [neat trick, if it makes Jews or Israel, say during the Nakba, look bad, it is merely "hate" therefore "untrue" even when the evidence of its truth is substantial... or like wiki does, call the ethnic cleansing of Palestine an "exodus" and denounce "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine," "Beyond Chutzpah," "Goliath" and similar very well researched books 'antisemitic'. The trick still works on the dumb].
Ever been to Arlington? Given what you see on the tv and newspapers about the glory and benefit of war, I'm just saying, you have to put some effort into finding a Star of David. In some areas, you can't see any. in any direction.
Meanwhile, if I accuse Rahm Emanuel or Jeff Goldberg, who left the U.S. to serve in the IDF before coming back to make their fortune in America, of being dually loyal, I'm an "antisemite" instead of "just fuckin' right."
Facts are stubbon things.
Whines and red herrings are cunty things.
Speaking of media manipulation, I love this NYTimes headline from today:
Revelations of N.S.A. Spying Cost U.S. Tech Companies
Oh ... so its the revelations that are causing the problem - not the fact that the NSA is spying in the first place. Yeah right.
I worry for you my friend, reading the NYT has been proven to cause Kreuz Herzog syndrome
in hairless apes.
Arrest that racist bigot. They are now going after whites and blacks.
Awesome evil snuggly bear!
by the way, fuck u cass sunstein!!!!!
"Next they're going to say that the official version of the WTC attack lacks credibility, in spite of its enshrinement as unassailable truth following the government's decision to investigate itself!"
In discussing my second 9/11 book, The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions, I have often said, only half in jest, that a better title might have been “a 571-page lie.” (Actually, I was saying “a 567-page lie,” because I was forgetting to count the four pages of the Preface.) In making this statement, one of my points has been that the entire Report is constructed in support of one big lie: that the official story about 9/11 is true.
Another point, however, is that in the process of telling this overall lie, The 9/11 Commission Report tells many lies about particular issues. This point is implied by my critique’s subtitle, “Omissions and Distortions.” It might be thought, to be sure, that of the two types of problems signaled by those two terms, only those designated “distortions” can be considered lies.
It is better, however, to understand the two terms as referring to two types of lies: implicit and explicit. We have an explicit lie when the Report claims that the core of each of the Twin Towers consisted of a hollow steel shaft or when it claims that Vice President Cheney did not give the shoot-down order until after 10:10 that morning. But we have an implicit lie when the Commission, in its discussion of the 19 alleged suicide hijackers, omits the fact that at least six of them have credibly been reported to be still alive, or when it fails to mention the fact that Building 7 of the World Trade Center collapsed. Such omissions are implicit lies partly because they show that the Commission did not honor its stated intention “to provide the fullest possible account of the events surrounding 9/11.” They are also lies insofar as the Commission could avoid telling an explicit lie about the issue in question only by not mentioning it, which, I believe, was the case in at least most instances.
Given these two types of lies, it might be wondered how many lies are contained in The 9/11 Commission Report. I do not know. But, deciding to see how many lies I had discussed in my book, I found that I had identified over 100 of them. Once I had made the list, it occurred to me that others might find this summary helpful. Hence this article.
http://www.911truth.org/the-911-commission-report-a-571-page-lie/
Keep up the good work on the list.
Another possible list of lies is flight MH370:
At the rate they are happening right now, I think there will be at least 30 lies or discrepancies/contradictions about flight MH370 by the end of the month, and many more after that.
Thanks, that's my feeling, ... ZH is specifically distracted to talk shit about 10, 20, 30, years ago, but try to talk shit that is happening right this very minute and its VERBOTEN.
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Keep up the good work,
Me thinks that ZH would prefer the MH-370 go away, but then bitcoin, ron paul, faber, china-bashing, ... never ends...
MH-370 is very important, it is the "GULF of TONKIN" in real time.
Every great war in the last few 100 years started by taken down a large ship, and re-directing 'blame'.
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Don't let the bastards change the subject, stay involved in real time, and know a little history, and understand that the CIA has done this shit over&over forever
The Gulf of Tonkin incident in 1964 led to America's full-scale military support for the SVA. The events in the Gulf of Tonkin was viewed by the America as justification to sexually mutiliate every infant in SE ASIA.
Zionhead, we're not dumb and many of us have done our own indepth research and/or experienced this crap first hand.
Please just tone down the frickin words a bit... we get the picture, we read your posts, we just do not need roasted babies in our posts every 5 min. We can't undo what was done and nor can you... you won't stop future events anymore than we will with vile words.
By the way you have no idea what I and other ZH'rs know of human viciousness -for some it just might beat everything you write about (unfortunately).
I want to read your posts, not skip them because they create a revulsion of past/present/future acts on innocents or are so inflamed they're not coherent.
You are not the beholder of all info and all things evil. You are however, someone who adds insight and informs, shares and who can invite us into a to feeling that we have a significant minority to foster the contigan of change.
Cheers,
uselesseater
Hey big brother if foney can have a hard-on over bitcoin, why can't I be passionate about missing aircraft?
The bullshit is so fuck it's fucking entertaining, and we're watching another 911, or jfk killing in real-time, why we you not want as many eyes as possible sending out feed?
The problem is too many people just want to talk about 911, and JFK, and that my friend is fuck DEAD, but this topic is alive.
I'm limiting it to the conspiracy thread. That's notable.
what are you on about?
I specifically mentioned its interesting reading your posts, and many of us here are upto speed with false flags and horror... we just don't need the horrific imagery all the time. You are not the only one to lose people in this travesty of bloodline greed.
Relax a moment a realise that you are not the only one affected, offended or upset by all this corruption controlled by a few through many vehicles in many nations. People awaken at their own speed but not through hostile words.............and I am no brother, I am a woman.
zionhead are you using multiple listings to up vote yourself?
I wasn't even close to condemning your point, just commenting on the expression.... ESL?
Zionhead are you 1 person?
Your english capability changes........
Your are as much a woman as OBAMA, but that's not the fucking issue.
The issue is we toss it all on the WALL and see what sticks, I worked with INTEL and GROVE many a years and we learned, throw all to the wall and see what sticks, in the AM may we see what sticks and follow that path.
Your genitals don't have a fucking thing to do with the debate, bitch.
http://www.bollyn.com/public/Solving_9-11_-_The_Deception_That_Changed_T...
http://www.spingola.com/MastersofDeception.pdf
cliff notes:
http://ehpg.wordpress.com/israel-did-911/
decent quick summary:
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it
- inside/.gov involvement is a given, of course, to include, in all likelihood, the very top of the Pentagon. Incredibly hard to believe, of course. The only thing is the official narrative is impossible to believe. Which is why I don't believe it. It took me quite a few years to snap out of the mass hypnosis. WTC7, which made me look at the other two towers, Silverstein, Cheney, etc. etc.
People argue details, of course, but no intelligent person should believe that the official narrative is anything but wildly inaccurate. It matters. There needs to be a new investigation, and it should be independent of the government and not controlled by lifelong politicians or Israel Firsters but civilian engineers and physicists, including people strongly disinclined to believe that it was something other than the "official story."
I agree, a new iindependent investigation into 911 should be a lightning rod for the coming revolution. After the investigation reveals the traitors and no change occurs we will then hang the fuckers and reinstate our Constitutional Republic.
Hello fellow and lady CTs. We meet tonight at the UFO landing site. Bring your etch a sketch.
Off topic, sort of, does anyone use wickr?
Son, there is nothing propagated across the etherspace or even exists merely connected thereto that is not known and owned by those who wish to do so.
Even the most "secure" and encrypted messaging is front and back end runed about reading the information prior to and post encryption.
That is proven fact.
Believing that in instrument such as wickr will keep you safe is first fallacious and second, will draw active attention to yourself, the proverbial singing golden needle in the hay stack, simply because, you use it.
Wake the Fuck Up
I owe ya an extra 6-pak for the straglers KNUKS...
Sparkling Mineral Water
Yen Cross, many thanks.
Today was 9th birthday.
I had no idea.....
Bless ya
K
Congrats!
I'm sure that 99%, and think it likely that 100% of alleged alien spacecaft sightings were false, but I'm betting you're the sort of ignorant cunt who thinks that in all the universe, only Earth supports intelligent life.
Point being, you likely dismiss ufos as alien crafts basically because you are the sort of idiot who don't think aliens exist at all.
The fucking Bible has retarded knowledge and caused more death than any other work of fiction ever.
I hope when the aliens do come, we are a] still alive and b] they burn every fucking copy of the Bible, Koran, Talmud, Book of Mormon, and any religious text which has caused suffering and death.
Wrong --look at Machiavelli or the Protocols. Evil people and rulers will always justify their evil in the name of good. If people pulled their heads out of their asses, they would not listen to such charlatans. What's wrong with the Golden Rule ("Love one another..") or the Sermon on the Mount (8 Beatitudes)?:
The 8 BeatitudesBlessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.
Blessed are the meek: for they shall posses the land.
Blessed are they who mourn: for they shall be comforted
Blessed are they that hunger and thirst after justice: for they shall have their fill
Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy
Blessed are the clean of heart: for they shall see God
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called children of God
Blessed are they that suffer persecution for justice' sake, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven
Matthew 5:3-10.
you missed my point.
And I seem to recall a lot of executions when the Church had free reign... all in defense of "The Word."
You may see alien life in your lifetime, friend, but I promise, you will never see the gods.
It seems that the generalization about the Bible as evil
ignores the difference between the Jewish Old Testament
and the Christian New Testament.
However, admittedly, many Christians have followed the Old instead of the New.
the deputy prime minister of the child raping uk running away when asked a question about paedophiles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJC-vvx7ItY
Stocks: Dow ends down 313 points after Obama win
The other event was when someone twattered that Obama is dead. The dark pools are still controlling this market. When Russia and China disconnect from USD, Wall Street will commit suicide. IMF, don’t smile in happiness. Your plan has been foiled. We will not sign up for your loan program to re-pay unpayable debt obligations. You’ll be looking down a barrel of a gun before that happens. Be forewarned.
how ironic the Dow dropped -he's the best friend (or puppet) Wall Street ever had.
Sunstein is this age's Goebbels.
The Democratic Party has been hijacked by these lumbering beasts that suck the marrow from your children's bones.
It's the blind two-faced hypocrisy of these imps that is so truly frightening.
"Democracy" means to them; two votes for the Inner Party, one vote for the Outer and zero votes for the Country Fucks. PS. You're part of the Country Fucks.
Speaking of Social Justice all the while silencing their dissenters.
Hiding behind the fake veil of racial inequality, while and for the rich to get richer.
Pure fascism.
Insidious is the word you are looking for.
Sunstein (in drag, black lingerie and whip):
"What does the sun do, Winston?"
"It is the center of the solar system."
CRACK! AHHHRGH!
"What does the sun do, Winston?"
"It orbits the Earth>"
"Good, here is your dog treat. Now, once moar..."
Sunstein is one of the bloodsucking flea vampires that are sucking this country dry. He and his fellow vampire scum need to have a stake driven through their hearts so they can be sent to hell with their demon comrades.
Every ship has its rats, every garbage dump its Cockroaches, every country its traitors and every government its cockpuppet..
I think this guy has NSA cock so deep in him sucked so many establishment cocks that his brain is composed entirely of government Sponsored semen.
Way to Sell out a country, constitution and democracy dude!
This guy is the result of 100 years of bankster military government corruption of power and society -- their mental Frankenstein--- the guy they want to make everybody intor...
the Bankster Military Borg Collective
Psssst!
Sunstein does not exist. He is an AshkeNAZI ghost......
Communism is not a philosophy; “it is a conspiracy in which hate-driven men (such as Cass Sunstein) participate.” Conspiracy has arrived and it is precisely the kind of instructions Lenin provided his followers on how they were to conspire in the takeover of nations and, therefore, it is Cass Sunstein's duty to deny it.
In his important and authoritative work, What Is to Be Done, written in 1902, Lenin set forth his views on the structure of the Communist Party:
“Conspiracy is so essential a condition of an organization of this kind that all other conditions…must be made to conform with it.”
Along conspiratorial lines, Lenin said:
“The only serious organization principle the active workers of our movement can accept is strict secrecy, strict selection of members, and the training of professional revolutionaries.”
His advice to his followers included “all sorts of devices, maneuvers, and illegal methods, to evasion and subterfuge” …in order to carry on Communist work at all costs.
The Diplomat is now saying that MH-370 proves that the CIA should be leading the world.
ASIA SHOULD BE LED by CIA/NSA intelligence.
That given that Malaysia/CHINA can't find the airplane, if they woudl just step back, that the CIA could find the airplane.
Well of course the CIA can find the airplane, they took the fucking plane.
http://thediplomat.com/2014/03/what-flight-mh370-tells-us-about-the-us-i...
"Well of course the CIA can find the airplane, they took the fucking plane."
Air America: We'll take care of the flying, so you don't have to! Relax, you're in good Company. Next stop, Paradise Island.
don't let this topic die,
Well....
That keeps Asia buying US debt....
Real assets inexchange for paper promises. Real assets can be monetized and levered up.
Funny...
Asking questions, active listening, and critical thinking, are conspiratorial.
that guy was mitch cumstein
Sunsteinshit is probably pissed that the net quickly Worked out there was Something fishy about the Malaysian plane ' hijacking'
coincidence? I think not! ;-)
anagram=Cass+Sunstein
Insanest Cuss
Scans Net Is Us
Canst Use Sins
Stances Sin Us
Scans Sites Nu
Anus Scent Sis
Ass Scent In Us
http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=Cass+Sunstein&t=200...
Palestinians or American's WHO is MORE FREE to Express their Minds?
"Our occupation may even be worse. You can't even talk about ours."
Good point the Palestinians can openly discuss the Bastards,But here in the USA were not even allowed to mention their names in public, or on the internet.
This is exactly what Cass Sunstein means when he says that "CONSPIRACY THEORY" should be crime, that you should be taxed or fined for spreading filthy talk about AIPAC.
I completely agree, that in Palestine 'free speech' isn't even an issue, ZIONISM is is not a taboo word, and anti-semitic would be ludicrous,
Which is my point, that the USA is the most controlled nation of domesticated hair-lip sheep on earth.
Palestinians are real men, and will tell a zionist to his face what he is, but an american, no fucking way in hell.
Sunstein is a creature of his ethnocentrism and ideological groupthink inside the Beltway.
He is concerned with preserving the state's right to rule, but more concerned with preserving, whole obfuscating, the wildly disproportionate role of Jews, and Israel, in that rule.
That 9/11 Truth points to the government (pentagon, cia) is a problem. That it points to Neocon Jews and Mossad is a bigger one.
Fortunately, people like Alex Jones herd many of the cats toward vague "globalists" and always away from specific individuals, and certainly away from Israel.
Notably, Sunstein's wife is a Celt, not a Semite (or "semite") but she is every bit the revolting cunt people like Perle and Kristol and Feith and Kagan and Wurmser...and Woolsey and Cheney are.
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/zionist-power/
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/wtc_stf.htm
Element, good stuff. I hope you'll consider getting a library card {assuming you haven't mastered undetectable proxies} and posting on NYT.
Takes some finesse, but not much.
Worth 1000 zhs, not just by numbers, but by who reads.
Those readers are everywhere.
Expect them.