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Turkey PM Acts On His Threat To "Destroy Twitter", Blocks Countrywide Access

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When we reported early yesterday that Turkey's Prime Minister Erdogan warned that since Twitter had ignored court orders to remove content related to a government corruption scandal., that he would "destroy Twitter" and that "we'll dig up Twitter - all of them - from the roots," he raged, "they'll see the power of the Republic of Turkey" it may not have been quite clear what he meant. A few hours later it was revealed, when virtually all Twitter access was blocked in Turkey ten days ahead of the general election in a move that has already enraged the nation and resulted in a powerful public outcry.

Bloomberg reports that the "tweets targeted by the premier are from two anonymous users: one going by the name of Haramzadeler, a phrase translated by Turkish media as “Sons of Thieves” though it could also mean “bastard,” and another called Bascalan, or "Prime Thief."  The person or persons have been leaking documents and audio files, some described as the results of a 15-month prosecutor-led investigation into corruption in Erdogan’s government. The leaks have captured the attention of Turkey’s 74 million citizens as the prime minister prepares for local elections on March 30. Zero Hedge reported on the leaks one month ago, which revealed that the PM and his sons were scrambling to hide their stolen money from the local prosecution during an anti-corruption raid in late 2013.

The leaks also call into question everything from the financial probity of ministers to their religious piety, and provide evidence of a media browbeaten by the government. That’s enlivened the opposition and put Erdogan on the defensive amid public allegations of graft involving the premier’s family and businessmen who’ve profited during his 11 years in power.

 

Turkey’s Information Technology and Telecommunications Board, or BTK, said Twitter had been blocked upon “complaints from our citizens” and “violations of personal rights and privacy,” according to a statement on its website today.

 

“The Internet site called Twitter has ignored decisions made by the courts of the Republic of Turkey,” the board said in the statement. “Left with no other choice to prevent the incompensable victimization of our citizens, a preventive measure blocking access to Twitter has been imposed in line with court decisions.”

Of course, the sheer idiocy of hoping to spread information by blocking one medium needs no commentary. What is worse for the embattled corrupt PM, however, is that worse revelations are coming.

Local media has reported that the most damaging leaks were yet to come. In a column in Yeni Safak newspaper yesterday, Hayrettin Karaman, a retired professor of Islamic law, pre-emptively denied the validity of a tape he said would be aired, showing him advising Erdogan on whether Islam would permit him to order the killing of politician Muhsin Yazicioglu, who died in a helicopter crash on March 25, 2009.

 

Yesterday, a prominent Turkish news anchorwoman denied rumors of a sexual affair with the prime minister. The pro-government media had been warning this week that new leaks would use “Hollywood” technology including silicon masks to make actors look like recognizable Turkish personalities.

 

While the original investigation stalled after prosecutors were removed, laws changed and thousands of police officers transferred, some of the files leaked from “Haramzadeler” have been incorporated into parliamentary record by the opposition.

As for the explanations from Erdogan, they have long since moved beyond the merely ridiculous:

Speaking across Turkey, Erdogan has dismissed one recording as a “montage,” described another as “natural” and said the entire investigation is backed by “foreign powers” and spearheaded by followers of a U.S.-based Islamic cleric, Fethullah Gulen. The latter has denied the allegations.

Regardless, the leaks are set to go on.

In a message on Twitter on March 19, “Haramzadeler” promised the leaks would continue until municipal elections and beyond.

“These publications will continue not just until March 30, but until Turkey sees the whole truth,” according to the post.

And since Turkey will certainly not stop at just Twitter, here is what is coming next: "Last week, Erdogan said the country could also block Facebook and YouTube." One wonders how long until other despotic regimes - the Eurozone comes to mind - encourage Erdogan and decide to adopt some of his more radical measures.

 

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Fri, 03/21/2014 - 07:36 | 4576155 Indian_Goldsmith
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All in the name of protecting the people. 

Tip: DNS : 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4

circumvent the restrictions :)

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 07:36 | 4576158 negative rates
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It's all about the peeps.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 07:44 | 4576168 GetZeeGold
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Twitter....scorned by despots everywhere.

 

Nice DNS tip......check with China....they got tons of them.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:16 | 4576256 PT
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In other news, the average IQ of Turkey suddenly jumped up by 20 points ...
Advisors in discussions regarding banning of TV to protect public's mental health ... 

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:24 | 4576270 TahoeBilly2012
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If he shuts down FB his fate is sealed.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 09:15 | 4576469 SamAdams
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Genius strategy that will encourage young people to show up at the polls in droves!  Very, very clever Mr. Turkey!

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 09:30 | 4576534 fonestar
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Turkish .gov says Twatter is banned.  That must mean nodbody in Turkey can use Twatter? 

Right?

Right?

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 09:54 | 4576633 crash commando
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"But, they . . .they could turn off the 'lectricity.  Then there would never be any twitter again.  All the government needs to do to save itself is turn off the 'lectricity."

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:25 | 4576272 GetZeeGold
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Take over the TV stations.....probably next. That would be the logical progression.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 09:07 | 4576452 PT
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He'd be doing them a favour.

I love that blob of coloured lights and electronics that is called a TV.  It is a wonderful invention.  I am not a fan of the shows that appear on it. 

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:27 | 4576280 weburke
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this payback for the oil/gold deals with iran? 

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 13:17 | 4577621 Tim_
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Turkey, Iran to boost ties after nuclear deal

"Turkey and Iran are set to boost their economic ties following a recent nuclear deal between world powers and Tehran that led to a partial lifting of sanctions on the country."

"An Iranian delegation will visit Turkey in the near future for discussions on trade issues, while Trade Minister Zafer Çaglayan will hold talks in Tehran on Jan. 15-16, 2014, Iranian Ambassador to Ankara Alireza Bikdeli said yesterday at a gathering with members of the Diplomacy Correspondents’ Association (DMD),"

"The trade of precious metals, particularly gold, between Turkey and Iran will restart, but the amount of commerce will not reach the figures of 2012 because those numbers were abnormally large due to problems with money transfers stemming from sanctions, Bikdeli said."


‘Turkey in talks with Iran for Europe gas delivery’

"Turkey has started talks with Iran with a view to striking a deal for the construction of a gas pipeline that would carry natural gas from Iran to Europe via Turkey, a Turkish paper reports."

"Iran owns the world’s largest natural gas reserves after Russia, and is also Turkey’s second biggest gas supplier after Russia."


Turkey's Erdogan visits Iran to improve ties after split over Syria

"Erdogan signed three trade deals on Wednesday before leaving Tehran to fly home, Iranian state television said."

"'I would like to mention specifically, and to express my satisfaction with, the agreement we signed in the preferential trade field,' he said. 'It is obvious that we import from Iran crude oil and gas, which are strategic energy sources, and we (will be) able to increase the volume of these imports.'"

"'We hope the process will be finalized with an agreement that will ensure the removal of all sanctions on Iran. Turkey has so far done its best in that regard and will continue to do so,' Erdogan told reporters in Ankara before he flew to Tehran."

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 13:29 | 4577669 Tim_
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The Argument that Fukushima Was Sabotaged

"Former NSA analyst, Jim Stone, argues that...the Fukushima explosion and meltdown was caused by mini-nukes hidden in cameras installed by an Israeli security firm. The motive: punish Japan for offering to enrich Iranian uranium... ."


Japan ready to supply enriched uranium to Iran - paper

"Japan has offered to provide Iran with enriched uranium to ease international concerns over the Islamic Republic's controversial nuclear program, the Japanese Nikkei daily reported on Wednesday."


Report: Japan offers to enrich uranium for Iran

"The Nikkei daily, without citing sources, reported that the proposal for Japan to enrich uranium for Iran was floated in December, with US approval, when Iran's top nuclear negotiator Saeed Jalili visited Tokyo."


Israeli firm’s cameras recording Japanese nuclear core

"Security cameras installed by Israeli defense company at Fukushima plant have ability to detect presence of radioactive clouds in air."

"The Arava-based Magna BSP company, which specializes in producing and installing stereoscopic sensory and thermal imaging cameras, had been contracted to place cameras around one of the plant’s six cores – the core that has been experiencing explosions and overheating."

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 09:38 | 4576566 PT
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He was hoping to ban YouTube and get a 60% increase in national productivity but was not allowed to due to a bunch of foreigners with American accents threatening nuclear annihilation.  They called themselves Al SECda or Al NSAda or something ...

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:30 | 4576294 Stuck on Zero
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It's amazing what dumb twits our "leaders" are.

 

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 09:39 | 4576570 Fractal Parasite
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Next they will have to block twitterproxy.net , and then .. and then ..

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 07:43 | 4576172 Headbanger
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Send him..   THE HILLARY!!

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 07:48 | 4576186 NoDebt
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Public outcry against the use of The Hillary has reached worldwide-proportions and is likely to be banned by UN treaty soon.  Besides we don't need to resort to such weapons of mass destruction for this small-fry.  NSA and CIA have this situation WELL in hand.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 07:50 | 4576187 actionjacksonbrownie
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This move should work wonders for getting the youth vote out...

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:27 | 4576282 Millivanilli
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What he really needs to do is ban the words: Corrupt Motherfucker

 

Per INGSOC

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 10:19 | 4576737 Mesquite
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'...ban the words...'

LOL

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 11:46 | 4577176 Telemakhos
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Do not switch your DNS to 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4 if you are doing anything illegal, suspicious, or even remotely frowned-upon.  Those are run by Google which tracks your IP, ISP, and location information when you use their DNS service and will hand your information over to your local law-enforcement or security agency upon demand.  You can bet the NSA has access to all queries run on the Google DNS servers, cross-referenced by originating IP address; if you're in Turkey, you probably don't care if the NSA knows this, but you ought to worry about your own government requesting the information from Google.  Find an offshore DNS server run by someone you trust, but don't trust Google.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 12:24 | 4577340 TheReplacement
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Why are you sending people straight to the NSA gatekeeper for DNS?

Edit: Tele-something beat me to it.  Damn you Tele-something.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 07:50 | 4576156 _ConanTheLibert...
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Cold turkey for twitters now

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:22 | 4576264 XAU XAG
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last nite I was singing this sooong

Turkey Turkey Tweet tweet

Turkey Turkey Tweet tweet

 

 

Mama's and papas

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 07:36 | 4576160 PlusTic
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ban it everywhere...it's nothing but an nsa co-opted spy program

it's also another way to shove ads in your face...which never ends

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 07:37 | 4576161 new game
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lol'ing, ps. haha tweet is up your twaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttt...

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 07:37 | 4576162 glaucon was right
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go long on walkie talkies

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 07:38 | 4576164 new game
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ugly day in store-so fuck the fucker fucking the fucked :))))))))))))))))))))))

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 07:39 | 4576166 SpanishGoop
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Please block Fartbook overhere.

 

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 07:43 | 4576170 new game
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I propose national day of anarchy

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 07:50 | 4576179 GetZeeGold
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We should all get realistic gun tattoos.......it would really freak the BATF out!

 

Give them to all our elementary age school children.....even better!

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 09:22 | 4576511 grunk
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Great!

We'll create a 501(c)(3), get a Board of Directors, find spokesmen, get sponsorships, apply for permits to demonstrate.

Then, let the anarchy begin. 

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 07:47 | 4576173 Ghordius
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"One wonders how long until other despotic regimes - the Eurozone comes to mind - encourage Erdogan and decide to adopt some of his more radical measures."

seriously, Tyler? besides the fact that the eurozone is 18 countries sharing a currency, since when can it be deemed in any way as despotic? imho you lose quite a lot of credibility with phrases like that

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:21 | 4576266 shovelhead
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When they want their money back?

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:40 | 4576338 bentaxle
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When they want Ukraine...

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:45 | 4576362 Zwelgje
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How many Euro using nations had an chance to vote on whether to adopt this currency or not?

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 09:35 | 4576551 Fractal Parasite
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None of them.

Only Denmark and Sweden have held a referendum on adopting the Euro. In both countries the majority said No.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 10:10 | 4576690 Escapedgoat
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...................the rest of them got FCUKed. Oh look over there Ukraine got "Liberated"

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 11:46 | 4577057 Element
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Don't worry Ghordie, Erdogan just figured that if he acted all Germanic and grew a little moustache and ranted a lot he could avoid the 'Arab Spring'. And at the same time he's made blood curdling threats to Russia (which could get Turks vaporized) while having openly and flagrantly plundered Syria, through Turkish border crossings.

And what did Europe do or say? Well, they were mortified and outraged, of course, and did absolutely nothing about the man's despotic criminal actions and insane rhetoric. Meanwhile the US and EU trained and armed and provided political support to killers, to infiltrate and mass-murder the people of Syria. Then the Eurobot govts fell over themselves, at least initially, behind barry and cohen to bomb the shit out of what remained of Syria after the EU supported Saudi-Al-qaeda organ-eater brigades had carved their way into the suburbs for the preceding 2 years.

The blow-back is coming is all. 

It reminds me of the Alan Parsons Project song lyrics, "The Boatman won't be waiting and he's leaving here with you.",

or was it this one;

You lie down with dogs you fall in with thieves
You're gonna catch something but you do as you please
You're scratchin' an itch that nothing can ease
You lie down with dogs you get up with fleas

Be objective mate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B8LEfXodzA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbq3KS6VA-M

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 12:43 | 4577454 tvdog
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Sounds like Spetznaz have some work to do in Turkey, once they finish up in Ukraine.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 12:26 | 4577360 TheReplacement
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Unelected people making decisions that affect the peoples of 18 countries... sounds pretty despotic to me.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 07:44 | 4576175 Bangin7GramRocks
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Soon, an entire subculture of underground tweet parties will form. Guys on the street will deal in black market tweets.
Seriously, who gives a shit. There are still 50,000 website/apps that can do the same thing. Even better actually, because the lack of character limits means you don't need to write like a fucking 11 year old girl.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 07:46 | 4576180 Seize Mars
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Always love seeing a government thug get his comeuppance.

Fuck 'em.

BTW is this another CIA operation?

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 07:59 | 4576211 magpie
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CIA might be involved...however this is a vendetta by the people giving the CIA their orders...mostly UK, Netherlands and Munich-based.

Mr. Turkey was their good friend, but didn't jump the required extra milimeters when ordered to.

You might assume this is about Syria, Russia or EU membership talks - but they planned on throwing him under the bus a long time ago.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 12:27 | 4577371 TheReplacement
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They certainly plan to throw everyone under the bus when the time is right and the need arises.  The plans are probably in place in a skeleton form before people like that guy even get into power.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 10:31 | 4576806 AndrewJacksonsGhost
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It has to be, I mean the CIA must have forced him to do these things in the past and present.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:02 | 4576217 buzzsaw99
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i am turkey hear me roar.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 11:19 | 4577032 Nobody For President
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Turkeys don't roar; they gobble.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:05 | 4576226 Sudden Debt
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IT'S CALLED A GOOGLE PLUS TAKEOVER!!!!

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:08 | 4576233 Notsobadwlad
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One of the many ironies of Satan is that he suffers no moral angst with turning on his own followers.

Apparently Erdogen is not only a lapdog of the west, but a very corrupt lapdog.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:11 | 4576241 Cacete de Ouro
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Forget Twitter, and come into my shop and look at the beautiful leather coats. I have one that you will love, good price, and here's some mint tea. You want a cigarette, here take one...

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:12 | 4576247 olle
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Erdogan has EU support too.... why are we always pick the wrong horse to bet on.... :-(

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:21 | 4576265 smacker
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The fascist Erdogan cannot "destroy Twitter" as he thinks (and as some of us in the West might like ;-) )

What he's done is all he can do: block direct access to it inside Turkey.

I predict a rise in the use of Anonymous servers inside Turkey...

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:26 | 4576275 shovelhead
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Muslims behaving badly...

Shocking.

Lots of it going around.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 09:45 | 4576594 Fractal Parasite
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Divide and Rule alert!

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:26 | 4576277 CloseToTheEdge
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Using Twitter for literate communication is about as likely as firing up a CB radio and hearing some guy recite ‘The Iliad.’
Bruce Sterling

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:27 | 4576283 Dr. Engali
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The way I see it, this just goes to show how the elites are scared to death by the enlightening power of the internet. It's another battle in the war of us against them.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:48 | 4576374 Bangin7GramRocks
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Yes, they are scared to death of reading "sry guys, no pics cuz ima draggin 2day." #soldoutshow #lifeishard #ticketsremainforstaplescentershowtonight   -Miley Cyrus

 

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:28 | 4576289 Richard Whitney
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Now we want to turn over the internet/ICANN to tinhorns like this?

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:35 | 4576321 agstacks
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#tyrant

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:38 | 4576327 One And Only
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If the people in Turkey knew about TOR (or any proxy service) this ignorant cunt would be as feckless as Obama.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:47 | 4576371 Winston Churchill
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How many TOR relays are NSA run ?

TOR is not secure,probably never was.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 14:27 | 4576409 One And Only
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Change your DNS to 8.8.8.8

or

Install a virtual box, encrypt your hard drive, and use any VPN.

Either way will give those in Turkey access to twitter.

(or use TOR)

happy?

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:39 | 4576329 JDFX
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Good lord. What the Turkey leadership has just declared to it's people is, ' come now in your overwhelming numbers,  we, who currently govern, are ready to be removed from power ' .

When they shut down the social networks, that is the peoples signal to charge.  It's the trip switch for dealing with psychotic leadership.  The leadership of course, in trying to pull the plug on freedom of communications, thinks it is an act of authoratitive superior control mechanism, in an attempt to stablise the perceived madness of the masses. What they don't realise is, it's the leadership themselves who are ill, unstable , unsound of mind, not the masses. 

Good luck people of Turkey. 

 

 

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:41 | 4576343 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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http://leaksource.info/2014/01/13/twister-decentralized-twitter-alternat...

Twister: Decentralized Twitter Alternative Built with Code from Bitcoin/BitTorrent, Lavabit Encryption Scheme, No IP Recording

Miguel Freitas, an engineer based in Rio de Janeiro, has started building a more secure and robust alternative to Twitter, making use of code from two other massively successful online projects: Bitcoin and BitTorrent.

His alternative is called Twister. It’s a decentralized social network that, in theory, can’t be shut down by any one entity. What’s more, Twister is designed to prevent other users from knowing whether you’re online, what your IP address is, or who you follow. You can still post public messages a la Twitter, but when you send direct and private messages to others, they’re protected with the same encryption scheme used by LavaBit, the e-mail provider used by Edward Snowdan.

Freitas and his collaborator Lucas Leal have completed a test version of the app that runs on Android, Linux, and OSX. Freitas has no plan to create a Windows or iPhone version, but since the code is open source, others are free to port the app to additional operating systems.

Other decentralized alternatives to Twitter and Facebook — such as Pump.io, Identica and Diaspora — require that you either operate your own dedicated server or trust someone else to run a server for you. Twister works more like peer-to-peer file sharing software: Launch the app, and it connects with other users. There’s no need for a central server.

It manages this trick through the bitcoin protocol, though not the network that actually drives the digital currency. Basically, the protocol handles user registration and logins. Just as machines — called miners — verify transactions over the bitcoin network to ensure no one double-spends bitcoins and everyone spends only their own coins, a network of Twister computers verifies that user names aren’t registered twice, and that posts attached to a particular user name are really coming from that user.

 

...

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:43 | 4576353 disorder
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The events that are unfolding in Turkey are directly related to what has happened in Egypt.

 

Edrogan would not support the military coup in Egypt and this is payback for not towing the line.   They're clearly trying to discredit and destroy him prior to elections because he will not go along with the Saudi/Israel agenda to enslave the Egyptian people.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:44 | 4576358 rsnoble
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Just wait till what see what the glorius fuckheads at the UN try to do to the internet.  The US can't get anything enforced that why LordFuckwad handed it over.  Fuck these bastards raw!

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:49 | 4576379 disorder
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Can the people on Zerohedge entertain the thought that there are forces at play trying to destablize the country?

 

Is it that difficult to fathom?  I don't claim to know with certainty, but after having seen the events that transpired in Egypt (military coup), Libya (attempted coup), Ukraine (military coup) I wouldn't call it that far fetched that there are forces at work trying to destabilze the entire region.

 

The Tylers support anything with an anti-islamic agenda.  They supported the overthrow of a democractically elected government in Egypt and automatically side with external intervention in Turkey's politics.  Zerohedge is a great site, but call a spade a spade and atleast recognise what is happening.

 

 

 

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 09:09 | 4576459 smacker
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Yes, there most certainly are forces at work destabilising other countries. You forgot to mention Syria in your piece which has certainly been a victim of such action.

Who is behind the destabilising actions? That's a variable mix of Western powers.

ISTM that any country which is not fully signed up to the aims of the American Empire is at risk. Its minions and allies play their parts as necessary.

 

I don't agree with your final paragraph.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 09:27 | 4576523 Dr. Engali
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"The Tylers support anything with an anti-islamic agenda.  They supported the overthrow of a democractically elected government in Egypt and automatically side with external intervention in Turkey's politics."

 

Bullshit. You're running a little loose with the facts. The Tylers pointed out the hypocrisy of the west who was destabilizing said countries. 

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 09:39 | 4576572 Buckaroo Banzai
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"I wouldn't call it that far fetched that there are forces at work trying to destabilze the entire region."

LOL, you're right-- it's called "Islam".

Islam: fucking up countries, cultures, and people for 1400 years! When you want it fucked up, and fast-- who ya gonna call??

ISLAM!

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 09:47 | 4576605 Bangin7GramRocks
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If you absolutely need death by the millions in the name of a silly book........CHRISTIANITY!

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 10:28 | 4576795 AndrewJacksonsGhost
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Because the crusades man, the crusades! Can you think of anything in like the last 4-5 centuries. Time is relative, but come on!

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 12:25 | 4577359 Bangin7GramRocks
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The United States has unofficially fought wars for Jesus for centuries. It is not on posters because of that funny separation of church and state thing. But it is sure as shit in the barracks and drilled into the heads of impressionable soldiers.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 14:09 | 4577837 TPTB_r_TBTF
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.

 

Christianity ruthlessly oppressed its own people financially as well as mentally. One of the harshest ways it did this was by demanding money from the poor in the form of tithes, one time donations, indulgences, fees for breaking moral laws and the occasional estate left to the church in a family member’s will. This stole much needed income from the poor and gave it to the aristocracy of the Christian Theocracy.

 

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 08:54 | 4576402 TheFutureReset
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The West wants to take down erdogan. He's ready to switch sides and join.... Dah Dah Dah... Russia! 

http://thediplomat.com/2013/12/turkey-renews-plea-to-join-shanghai-coope...

Turkey is the next battle ground. Imagine a Turkey / Russia / Iran. A black sea and Caspian sea energy block.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 09:18 | 4576495 highwaytoserfdom
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Hey is this the same as Yahoo finance blocking strong sell or question Stress Test?    Cold Turkey  STRESS TEST...

 

stress     the inability to kick the $hit out of people authorities that desperately deserve it

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 09:27 | 4576526 Debugas
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looks like new Maidan (from Kiev) is brewing in Ankara now

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 10:16 | 4576723 studfinder
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I grew up without internet and cellphones.  Life was good. 

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 12:41 | 4577440 Smiddywesson
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I remember how deprived I felt when our family would go to our beach house and we'd go a WHOLE WEEKEND without a black and white TV.  Now, most people don't even have a beach house, but they feel wealthy because they can watch color TV on their stupid phones.  I miss those times.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 10:26 | 4576780 AndrewJacksonsGhost
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At this point, what difference does it make and that was a long time ago.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 12:14 | 4577297 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Erdogan was done as a Western Stooge the second they pulled the plug on the Muslim Brotherhood Caliphate Comedy tour... That the military lets him stay in power is somewhat surprising considering the secular nature of the country and a good deal of people there too.

Either way he really only has 2 options which is hardcore Sharia Law or Russia in for the kicksave.

I don't think Russia is stupid enough to back this guy outright since he was part of the recently canceled Caliphate Comedy tour considering their history with muslim liver eaters and muslim malcontents in places like Chechnya for example. They benefit best by a secular regime in Turkey aligned with their interests or not.

This guy is done, this all just theater until election time there.

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 12:38 | 4577430 Smiddywesson
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Jokes on me.  I was going to make a comment about what a pissant country Turkey is, but was surprised to find it is twice the size and population of California (302,000 square miles, with a population of 75 million). 

 

That's one big turkey!

Fri, 03/21/2014 - 17:34 | 4578589 falconflight
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Another enlightened moslem based gov't.  This PM and his party should be buried in mass ....

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