How (& Why) JPMorgan & COMEXShould Be Sued For Precious Metals Manipulation

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Submitted by Ted Butler via Gold Silver Worlds blog,

I’ve had some recent conversations with attorneys who were considering class-action lawsuits regarding a gold price manipulation stemming from reports about the London Gold Fix. I told them that while there is no doubt that gold and, particularly, silver are manipulated in price, I didn’t see how the manipulation stemmed from the London Fix. I wished them well and hoped that they may prevail (the enemy of my enemy is my friend), because you never know – if the lawyers dig deep enough they might find the real source of the gold and silver manipulation, namely, the COMEX (owned by the CME Group) and JPMorgan.

So I thought it might be constructive to lay out what I thought a successful lawsuit might look like, although I’m speaking as a precious metals analyst and not as a lawyer. I’ll try to put the whole thing into proper perspective, including the premise and scope of the manipulation as well as the parties involved.

The first thing I should mention is how unprecedented it is that I’m writing this in the first place. Here I am, directly and consistently accusing two of the world’s most important financial institutions of market manipulation (making sure I send each all my accusations) and I have received no complaint from either. I don’t think that has ever occurred previously. Now I am taking it one step further; presenting a guide for how and why JPMorgan and the CME should be sued for their manipulation of gold and silver (and copper, too).

Let me explain why I am doing this. I am still certain that the coming physical silver shortage will end the price manipulation, but I see nothing wrong with trying to hasten that day. Over the past quarter century, I petitioned the regulators incessantly to end the manipulation, but the CFTC refused to do so. Far from regretting my past efforts, I feel it has greatly advanced and legitimized the allegations of manipulation. After 25 years, however, one must recognize that the horse being beaten is dead and that the CFTC will never act.

So, instead of simply waiting for the silver shortage to end the manipulation, I thought it advisable to try a new approach that was completely compatible with the real silver story to date. Since I (we) couldn’t get the CFTC to do its job and end the manipulation; why not try a different approach? The truth is that I have long believed that the right civil lawsuit stood a good chance at ending the manipulation before a silver shortage hit. I had high hopes initially that the class-action suit that was filed against JPMorgan for manipulating the price of silver a few years ago might succeed; but it seemed to drift off track and I wasn’t particularly surprised that it was ultimately dismissed. My intent should be clear – I want to see the next lawsuit succeed.

The stakes in a COMEX silver/gold/copper manipulation lawsuit are staggering. Not only is market manipulation the most serious market crime possible, the markets that have been manipulated and the number of those injured are enormous. I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to say that any finding that JPMorgan and the COMEX did manipulate prices as I contend could very well result in the highest damage awards in history. That’s no small thing considering the tens of billions of dollars that JPMorgan has coughed up recently for infractions in just about every line of their business.

My point is that no legal case could be potentially more lucrative or attention getting than this one. Certainly, this also includes the pitfall that JPMorgan and the CME are legal powerhouses who are not likely to roll over easily. Because the silver manipulation has lasted so long and damaged so many, the stakes away from any monetary finding are staggering. It is no real stretch to suggest, with or without eventual criminal findings, the reputational and regulatory repercussions (from other countries) could threaten the existence of each institution in current form (or at least management).

What is the theory or premise of the legal case for market manipulation against JPMorgan and the CME? The COMEX has evolved into a trading structure that has allowed speculators to control and dictate the price of world commodities, like gold, silver and copper, with no input from the world’s real producers, consumers and investors in these metals. The CME has allowed and encouraged this development for the sole purpose of increasing trading fee income. Not only do the world’s real metal producers, consumers and investors have no effective input into the price discovery process on the COMEX; because the COMEX is the leading metals price setter in the world, real producers, consumers and investors are forced to accept prices that are dictated to them by speculators on the exchange.

Because so few of the world’s real producers, consumers and investors deal on the COMEX, the exchange has developed into a “bucket shop” or a private betting parlor exclusively comprised of speculators. Again, this is an intentional development as much more trading volume is generated by speculative High Frequency Trading (HFT) than by legitimate hedgers (like miners) transferring risk to speculators. Legitimate hedgers don’t day trade. It is no exaggeration to say that the COMEX has been captured by speculators and abandoned by legitimate hedgers.

In turn, JPMorgan has developed into the “King Rat” in the speculative bucket shop by virtue of its consistent market corners in COMEX gold, silver and copper futures. The COMEX market structure was already rotten when JPMorgan blasted onto the scene in March 2008 when the bank acquired Bear Stearns’ short market corners in gold and silver. Incredibly, the regulators engineered the Bear Stearns rescue, granting to JPMorgan a listed market control in addition to the OTC market share control that JPM held for years. Talk about a powerful manipulative combo – JPMorgan and the COMEX.

Perhaps the most compelling aspect of my premise for a legal case against the CME and JPMorgan for market manipulation is that it is based exclusively on public data available from the CFTC in the form of the agency’s weekly Commitments of Traders (COT) and monthly Bank Participation Reports. There is additional proof of JPM’s controlling market share in the Treasury Department’s OCC OTC Derivatives Report (please see my public comment to the Federal Reserve at the end of this piece). The CFTC data may seem somewhat complex at first, but there can be little question as to its general accuracy and government pedigree. In fact, the data is compiled from exchange information transmitted to the CFTC, so the CME can’t deny its accuracy. There’s no he said/she said or ambiguity in these data series. In short, it is type of data that will hold up in a court of law.

According to the CFTC’s data, there are two primary groups of speculators setting prices on the COMEX. One group are the technical funds, traders that buy and sell strictly on price movement. Also referred to as trend followers and momentum traders, the technical funds buy and continue to buy futures contracts as prices climb; and sell and continue to sell, including short sales, as prices fall until prices subsequently reverse. These traders are included in the Managed Money category of the disaggregated version of the COT report, primarily because they are investment funds trading on behalf of outside investors, also known as registered Commodity Trading Advisors (CTA’s).

One thing that can be said for certain about these technical funds is that they are pure speculators, as there is no mining company or user of metal in this category by CFTC and CME definition. By itself, there is nothing wrong with that as regulated futures exchanges need speculators to take the other side of the transaction when legitimate hedgers wish to lay off price risk in the normal course of their underlying business. This is the economic justification for why congress had authorized futures trading originally. The problem is that there are few, if any, legitimate hedgers involved on the COMEX nowadays; only other speculators that are falsely categorized as legitimate producers and consumers.

The second group of speculators are primarily categorized as commercials, mostly in the Producer/Merchant/Processor/User category, but also in the Swap Dealers category. Since these terms are quite specific and strongly suggest that only legitimate hedgers are included, most people automatically assume the traders in these commercial categories are just that – hedgers. But that is not the case, as most of the traders in these two categories are banks, led by JPMorgan, pretending to be hedging, but which are, in reality, trading on a proprietary basis strictly for profit. Simply put, JPMorgan and other collusive COMEX traders are just pretending to be commercially engaged in COMEX trading in gold, silver and copper when, in reality, they are nothing more than hedge funds in drag.

http://www.cftc.gov/MarketReports/CommitmentsofTraders/DisaggregatedExplanatoryNotes/index.htm

The lynchpin of any legal case against JPMorgan and the CME revolves around whether the traders in the commercial categories of the COT report are, in fact, hedging or simply speculating, as are the technical funds. The CME and JPMorgan will go to the ends of the earth to show that the commercials are hedging, not speculating and will hide behind the twin concepts that the commercials are either trading on behalf of clients or are actively involved in market making and are thereby providing much needed liquidity. It will sound legitimate if you believe in make believe stories instead of facts.

JPMorgan has a history of proclaiming it is hedging when confronted with an unnecessarily large speculative position. The first thing the bank declared when the London Whale debacle surfaced was that it was part of a hedge against the bank’s portfolio. But that was openly scoffed at and quickly discarded as an excuse. JPM is likely to trot out the hedging or market making justification, but any competent attorney will blow that away. No one (openly or legitimately) granted JPMorgan the right to maintain market corners in COMEX gold and silver.

In December 2012, JPMorgan held market shares on the short side of COMEX gold and silver that amounted to 20% and 35% of the net open interest in each market respectively. It is not possible that a reasonable person would not consider those market shares in an active regulated futures market to constitute market corners. After rigging prices lower by historical amounts in 2013, JPMorgan flipped its short market corner in COMEX gold to a long market corner of as much as 25% and reduced its short market corner in COMEX silver to under 15% from 35%, pocketing more than $3 billion in illicit profits. I’d like to see JPMorgan explain some connection to hedging with regards to its position change.

Undoubtedly, JPMorgan will claim it was “making markets” to explain away its huge position shifts in COMEX gold and silver (and copper), proclaiming it was always a buyer on the downside and a seller on the upside of prices. True enough, but far from being the market hero it will pretend to be, a closer examination will reveal something else entirely. The purpose of market making is to provide market liquidity and price stability. Legitimate traders are given some leeway from regulations limiting speculative positions and market shares from growing too large in order to enhance liquidity and price stability which benefits everyone.

But the record clearly indicates that JPMorgan, in cahoots with the CME, has used its dominant market shares in COMEX gold, silver and copper to instead engage in an evil form of market making whose intent is to constrict liquidity and create disorderly pricing. What record indicates that? The price record. Twice in 2011, the price of silver fell more than 30% ($15) in a matter of days and last year gold fell $200 and silver by $5 in two days. These price declines were unprecedented, had no legitimate supply/demand explanation and the regulators, including the CME did or said anything.

For sure, JPMorgan was a buyer on those deliberate price smashes and every other COMEX gold, silver and copper price smash for the past six years, but how does that make them a hero? This crooked bank and the CME and others arranged every COMEX price smash in order to create chaos, drain liquidity and disrupt pricing; the exact opposite of what legitimate market making is supposed to be. JPMorgan and the CME violated public trust in our markets as proven by the price record. For that, they should be made to pay dearly.

The key question is how did (and does) JPMorgan and the CME pull this off repeatedly? It all has to do with market mechanics, of which JPM and the CME are absolute masters. Since there are, essentially, two separate and competing speculative groups setting prices on the COMEX, it comes down one group scamming the other. (I know this is old hat to subscribers, but please remember I’m writing this to convince the right attorney to take on these crooks). So how does JPM get positioned to profit from a price smash (or price rise) and then rig prices to go in their direction? Basically, by scamming the technical funds by getting those funds to do what is profitable for JPMorgan and other collusive commercial traders and including the CME in the form of extraordinarily large trading volume.

How the heck does JPMorgan and the CME pull that off? They can pull it off because they know how the technical funds operate and because JPM and the CME also know how to cause the funds to buy and sell when JPM wants them to buy and sell. Since the technical funds only buy as prices are rising and only sell as prices are falling, particularly when prices penetrate key moving averages, all JPMorgan and the other collusive commercials have to do is occasionally set prices above and below those key moving averages. And thanks to an array of dirty trading tricks developed over the past 30 years, the most recent being HFT, JPMorgan can set short term prices wherever it chooses, whenever it desires.

In a very real sense, JPMorgan and other collusive COMEX commercials have become the puppet masters controlling the technical funds’ movements. It is an exquisite racket – JPMorgan gets the technical funds to buy or sell in order to take the other side of the transaction as counterparties. This can be seen in almost every price move in COMEX gold, silver and copper over the years. Let me try to present the data in graphic form, courtesy of some charts by my Aussie friend, Nick Laird of sharelynx.com.

Depicted below are the three main metals of the COMEX, gold, silver and copper and the net positions of the traders in the managed money category – the technical funds over the past couple of years. If you plot when the technical funds buy or sell, there is almost a 100% correlation to price. In other words, when the technical funds buy, prices for gold, silver and copper rise and when the technical funds sell, prices fall. The correlation is almost uncanny, to the point where some pundits have recently claimed that it is the technical funds, not the commercials, which are manipulating prices. But those claims melt away once one considers the nature of this bucket shop fraud.

GOLD COT March2014 physical market

Silver COT March2014 physical market

Copper COT March2014 physical market

Sure, the technical funds move prices when they buy and sell, but that’s just what JPMorgan and the CME count on. If the technical funds weren’t mechanical and predictable there would be no scam possible. It is only because the technical funds can be counted on to do the same thing repetitively that allows JPMorgan and other collusive commercials to take counterparty positions. If the technical funds weren’t predictable, JPMorgan would never have made $3 billion+ last year in COMEX gold and silver and been able to flip a short market corner in COMEX gold to a long market corner. Or just ask yourself – why would the technical funds collude to harm themselves?

I also feel it is significant that I can now include copper in the JPMorgan/CME illicit scheme to manipulate. This broadens the manipulation in a systemically important way. If ever there was a case for the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO), this must be it.

In one recent attorney conversation, I was asked to provide the name of a technical fund that was duped as I described and would like to seek legal redress. If I could have, I would have, but I don’t think that’s possible. It’s another reason I refer to this COMEX manipulation as almost the perfect crime. In this case, any technical fund would not likely seek redress as a victim (certainly not as the initiator of legal action) because to do so would involve having to admit being the mark at a crooked poker game, something not conducive to attracting additional investor funds. In fact, it would invalidate a technical fund’s core business and be tantamount to simply quitting a business that may have been in existence for decades. It just isn’t going to happen.

But that hardly matters because the nature of market manipulation means there are untold numbers of other victims, particularly considering the scope of the gold, silver and copper markets. Whereas the technical funds were both the enablers and sometimes victims of the scam I described above, there are many thousands of legitimate victims (including me and many of you) who did nothing to enable the scam.

I dare say that there are more potential victims of the JPMorgan/COMEX gold, silver and copper manipulations than in just about any previous financial fraud. Let’s face it, there is hardly a mining company or investor in gold and silver or mining company shares that hasn’t been damaged over the past six years to some extent. That’s when JPMorgan came to dominate COMEX trading. If a legitimate class-action lawsuit was initiated, I believe potential litigants would emerge in massive numbers. Then again, there’s only one way to find out for sure and that’s to have such a case filed.

On a number of occasions in the past, when there was still some slim hope that the CFTC might address the ongoing silver manipulation, I publicly requested that you should submit public comments on issues related to position limits. By my count, upwards of 10,000 comments were submitted collectively, for which I offered my profuse thanks. Unfortunately, because the agency appeared to be compromised on the issue, no real good came from it through no fault of our own. Therefore, I would hardly ask anyone to do that again.

But I was reminded by a subscriber that I should submit a comment in regard to the Federal Reserve’s open public comment period seeking input on whether banks should be allowed to deal in physical commodities and derivatives on such commodities. I had mentioned in a previous article that I was undecided whether to do so or not. The subscriber convinced me that it was the right thing to do in order to go on the record, to which I had to agree. I understand the comment period has been extended to April 14, for anyone wishing to submit comments for the record. There have been less than 80 comments posted thru today and mine are near the bottom

http://www.federalreserve.gov/apps/foia/ViewAllComments.aspx?doc_id=R-1479&doc_ver=1

 

Gold & Silver Market Manipulation: Fed Open Comment March 2014

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DaddyO's picture

And suing would produce what outcome?

DaddyO

knukles's picture

Make a lotta money for the lawyers, silly!
Plus, Bloomberg had an article the other week that said that every other asset under the sun was manipulated except for gold.  And they know.  They'd not lie.  I saw it on the news so it must be true.

kliguy38's picture

besides everyone knows its a barbarous relic and you can't eat it like you can fiat.....

knukles's picture

Besides, hasn't GATA or somebody else already tried this?  I mean the lawsuit, not eating the fiat.  Somebody already tried to sue everybody else and got told to piss off, I think.  Plus, if my memory serves me well, under a host of legislation ranging form financial modernization thru Patriot Act, NDAA, DoddFrank (whatever) the banks are not required to reveal that which is related to gold and silver markets on national security grounds.
Neither is the Fed.

Lotsa luck...

I mean, Germany can't even get let into the FRBNYC's gold vault to see if there's anything there.  Same with the BoE.  But the Queen gets to go in and ohh and ahh...

Bay of Pigs's picture

Blanchard sued Barrick and JPM if I remember correctly. Some corrupt judge through it out on a technicality without excusing the criminal actions.

Lets face it, these fuckers are untouchable.

Squid-puppets a-go-go's picture

all it takes is one monolithic oligarchic entity to turn.

Imagine goldman sachs taking up the lawsuit against JPM. It never happens - except at times of stress like 2008. Remember that?

there can be only one, highlander

Apeman's picture

Jamie Dimon the tapeworm.

strannick's picture

Just read ''Den of Thieves'', how the DOJ and SEC took down Milken. Those were men. Dogged men, of the Chris Powell, Ted Butler variety. Shitheads like Jeff Christian and Jimmy Dimon perpetuate their crimes becuase of indifference, and because of meely mouthed corrupted CFTC worms like Chilton and especially Jill Sommers.

GetZeeGold's picture

 

 

Send the CFTC a nail gun kit.....remove the instructions first.

BaBaBouy's picture

Check Out Latest Attack On POG...

http://www.cftc.gov/dea/futures/deacmxsf.htm

The Commis Went Net Shorter Of Over 20,000 Contracts Of GOLD During The Week Period Of

Mar/11 To Mar/18.

AND, With GOLD Looking To Break Out Much Higher, Here We Are Again

With Them Selling And Selling... WHY ???

 

 

MontgomeryScott's picture

Hey, Yellen, take a memo:

The Board of the Federal Reserve should take immediate steps to disallow US banks and bank holdingcompanies from both physical and derivative commodities trading for a reason not mentioned to date,namely, to  eliminate  market    manipulation. This is the most  serious   market  crime of all.

You know, they now   have their own private Police Force. Equipped with Senco Nail Guns.


MeelionDollerBogus's picture

That mullet has Satoshi-power.

DeadFred's picture

All the judges and monolithic oligarchic entities who could take this to a just outcome use cell phones and email. The NSA doesn't really care what I say or write but every word and action of those judges and oligarches will be reviewed and then they will be shown why a "No manipulation" outcome is in their best interest. People usually follow the path of their best interests. Good luck with your lawsuit but I'm not holding my breath.

MeelionDollerBogus's picture

As soon as anyone on the 'list' starts mentioning 'manipulation' in any way other than dismissal/denial they start getting junk email to sell them nail guns at bulk discount prices.
If that message isn't understood the next one will be much clearer.

philipat's picture

Where are the two JPM whistle blowers who gave testimony to CFTC? Were they amongst the "suicides"??

john39's picture

these kinds of lawsuits take years to litigate, and millions of dollars to pay for.  when the system is obviously rigged, a lawyer would be insane to take the case on a contingency...  and without a contingency suit, who could afford to pay for it... knowing that the outcome would likely be rigged?

look at the obamacare lawsuits.  at the end of the day, John Roberts rolled over for TPTB.  when it really matters, that will always be the outcome in thes rigged courts.  like american democrazy, its all for show.  and the show is wearing pretty thin.

HoofHearted's picture

Viva la Revoluccion.

If we keep sitting by and letting ourselves get fucked, then we probably deserve what we're getting. I'm not a big fan of violence usually, but...it is one way to get somene's attention. I'd rather have the cajones of Putin and win the battle without even having to break into a sweat...but how do we pull that off?

RafterManFMJ's picture

It's all for show? Very good. Now print this quote out and paste in on your refrigerator:

The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater. - Zappa

H. Perowne's picture

And once the masks come off, the corollary:

 

"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - Mencken

Cacete de Ouro's picture

Reg Howe also sued a big cast of players including (I think) the Fed, BIS, representative bullion banks (JPM), Greenspan, McDonough, Treasury Secretary.

The judge ruled that Reg Howe didn't have 'standing' to sue these entities, and then the judge dismissed the case.

Basically 'standing' means:

"In law, standing or locus standi is the term for the ability of a party to demonstrate to the court sufficient connection to and harm from the law or action challenged to support that party's participation in the case."

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_(law)

Pladizow's picture

Wanna win? Better have the trial anywhere but NY.

The court system in ny is Wall streets whore!

knukles's picture

Beijing?
Moscow?
Dubuque?
Oakland?  Yeah, Oakland!  Be able to get an impartial jury.  If they can't even speak English.  Still got the gold initials inlaid on dere teef....  Dey knos...

Josh Randall's picture

That's because it's New "York" as in the "York Rite"of Freemasonry - good luck winning anything without the blessing of the Lodge behind you

Winston Churchill's picture

Shit. you don't even need to go to NY.

The court in Vero Beach in Florida, is a Lodge unto itself.

Chief_Illiniwek's picture

Why, much needed income for downtrodden law firms - of course...

DaddyO's picture

I had surmised that the law firms being handsomely rewarded was the best answer.

I was hoping though that some real answers would be forthcoming, silly me!

DaddyO

knukles's picture

I answered that first!
I wanna unicorn!
You promised me a unicorn.

Did you know if you butcher a unicorn the best parts are bacon, sprinkles, rainbows, skittles, magic tumors, happy penises and it releases singing tortured souls caught in the 7th circle of hell across the flaming river of blood from the paper island?
Great shit.
The sausage ain't bad, either.

DaddyO's picture

I know, at the time of my post, everyone was lined up and then the cascade hit.

Unicorn bacon, now that's got to be some tasty stuff...

Has anyone ever had Unicorn mountain oysters? just curious as to their flavor.

DaddyO

kaiserhoff's picture

I smell marketing opportunities,

  and a way to move a bit of horse meat and roo;)

We just can't have it taste like chicken.

zhandax's picture

Smoked over wild cherry, of course

MeelionDollerBogus's picture

Let's just say before you eat one you better be OHungry.

Mr Pink's picture

Can I still sign up for the class action, even after my boating accident?

DaddyO's picture

You'd have about as much standing as everyone else, I suppose.

DaddyO

kaiserhoff's picture

Are you saying "snow ball in hell"?

tis bettah to have loved and lost...

MsCreant's picture

So all these accidents are folks standing in their boats?!? 

MontgomeryScott's picture

Boating accident, fall from a balcony, mysterious airline disaster, polonium poisoning, Home Depot nail gun misfiring in your garage, suicide with three bullets in the back of the head,...

Schmuck Raker's picture

Ideally, you will post fewer inanities.

BTW, that is my -1, suck it.

ebworthen's picture

JP Morgan as "King Rat" is about right.

Those crooks need to be in orange jump suits busting rocks, not making payoffs.

El Hosel's picture

Wake me up when 1% of the 1% get charged with any of their financial crimes... You know, the crimes that occur every fucking day for years on end bilking billions from "the system" they put in place and "regulate".

Who was that masked man's picture

You might just as well sue the United States Government AND The Federal Reserve.

 

Good luck with that.

honestann's picture

Sorry Ted, but the ENTIRE "legal system" is utterly owned and controlled by the very same predators-that-be who manipulate the markets.  You really have to be naive to imagine that a predator with ZERO honor, ethics, honesty or scruples will do anything but thwart any and every attempt made through so-called legal channels.

The ENTIRE legal system is nothing but a tool for the predators-that-be.  Period.  And that tool works precisely because even after endless egregious evidence that the "legal system" is nothing more than a tool for the predators-that-be... humans continue to pretend it has some legitimacy.

IT DOES NOT.

In fact, it never did, but long ago the predators made a better effort to pretend.

The only workable solution is for honest, ethical, productive, benevolent humans like you, me, and others to buy as much physical as we possibly can, and hide it away where the predators cannot find it.  And do not give it up, under any circumstances.  If you have to leave the country to prevent them taking it back... do so.  Or whatever else it takes.

Squid-puppets a-go-go's picture

yes, but - as i mentioned above - when one 'predator that be' attacks another 'predator that be' a judge has no option but to apply the basic principles of justice. 

honestann's picture

No, a judge can do whatever he wishes.  Usually that means favor whoever makes him a better offer [for immediate or future favors], or who can find more incriminating evidence to hold against him.  What a typical judge NEVER considers is... justice.

BigJim's picture

Honestann - You're right, of course, but one of the best things any person can do is make more people aware of this fact.

So even though Ted Butler (probably) would agree with you that his legal actions are - in themselves - pointless, he probably believes that playing it 'straight' is more likely to inform the uninformed than just saying 'look what a bunch of corrupt monkeys they are'.

The only thing that will change all this is if enough people wake up to it. And the more people like Ted Butler shout and holler, the more people will do just that.

honestann's picture

He has done a great job of hollering, and good for him if he continues.  But the "payback" for playing legal games is vastly less than his prior actions.  Why waste his time, effort and huge quantities of funds... when that time, effort and money is more effective otherwise.

Remember, no judge will find for him, so the net result will be to convince MORE people that "there's no smoke or fire here" (because most people are still terminally naive). 

MeelionDollerBogus's picture

No they're not. They don't hear it, don't care. Won't care until there's guillotines in public squares and then they'll accuse every gold holder of being an elite bankster even if you had only 1 coin inherited from grandma and they'll say anyone with beans and bullets is a terrorist and demand all of them to the guillotines or mass graves or burn their homes to the ground too.
What's coming is ugly.

Who was that masked man's picture

Actually, all markets are manipulated and always have been.  That's what a market is.  Everytime someone buys or sells, that transaction will change (manipulate) that market.