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Ukraine Troops In Crimea Refuse To Leave While Russia Takes Over Most Of Ukraine Navy Fleet
As of Friday, the Ukraine has, as we predicted a month ago, been officially divided in two. As AP reported earlier, "two almost simultaneous signatures Friday on opposite sides of Europe deepened the divide between East and West, as Russia formally annexed Crimea and the European Union pulled Ukraine closer into its orbit. In this "new post-Cold War order," as the Ukrainian prime minister called it, besieged Ukrainian troops on the Crimean Peninsula faced a critical choice: leave, join the Russian military or demobilize. Ukraine was working on evacuating its outnumbered troops in Crimea, but some said they were still awaiting orders."
However, it appears it is not so much a question of figuring out how to evacuate the troops, but rather motivating them. As RIA reports, "less than 2,000 of Ukrainian troops serving in Crimea decided to leave the peninsula for Ukraine, the Russian Defense Ministry said on Saturday. "As of March 21, less than 2,000 out of 18,000 Ukrainian servicemen staying on the territory of the Republic of Crimea decided to go to Ukraine," the ministry said in a statement.
Those willing to continue their service in the Ukrainian armed forces will be provided with transport to carry their families and belongings to the Ukrainian territory, the ministry added. So while Russia is saying good riddance of foreign troops situation in its brand new territory, it is at least being kind enough to provide the means to depart.
Meanwhile, Russia, already in control of the critical warm water port of Sevastopol, just became the brand new owner of virtually the entire Ukraine navy fleet.
A total of 147 military units in Crimea have hoisted Russian flags instead of Ukrainian and applied to join the Russian armed forces.
"St. Andrew's flags of the Russian Navy have been raised on 54 out of 67 vessels of the Ukrainian Navy, including eight warships and one submarine," the defense ministry said.
Ukraine's only submarine, the Zaporizhzhia, joined the Russian Black Sea Fleet earlier on Saturday and will be soon relocated to its base.
So while the last vestiges of Ukraine military presence in the Crimea slowly disappear, one place that still refuses to give in to Russians, is the Belbek air force base in east Crimea, made known several weeks ago for the stand off between Russian and Ukraine troops. As shown on the picture below, the troops are waiting for order from Kiev, while the Russian soldiers have all the time in the world to wait as the besieged base is emptied out. AFP adds that some 200 unarmed pro-Russian protesters stormed the base, as the soldiers have barricaded inside and are throwing smoke bombs.
Ukrainian commander at Belbek airforce base in #Crimea has told his forces to stand their ground despite Russian deadline to leave
— Sky News Newsdesk (@SkyNewsBreak) March 22, 2014
All of that is to be expected. However, what one should pay close attention to, is the latest pro-Russia rally which is taking place in the Eastern city of Donetsk, one where the crowd earlier was chanting for a return of the pre-coup Ukraine president, Yanukovich.
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Why the importance? Because whether the protest is real or fabricated, any additional provocations against the prevailing pro-Russian population will surely be used as a pretext by Putin to continue his "expansion" campaign into East Ukraine under the same pretext as he has made all too clear previously: to protect the minority population. And, as the west has shown all too clearly with a whole lot of meaningless sanctions, there is nobody to stop him.
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"And, as the west has shown all too clearly with a whole lot of meaningless sanctions, there is nobody to stop him."
The only thing worse than realizing you are powerless is when everyone else realizes it as well.
Obama agrees with your statement
Fuck Obama and his big mangina
Fortunately his endless hours spent in the Choomwagon prepared him for just such a scenario.
Obama, the emperor has no clothes. Yes, you.
There’s a simple alternative to drawing lines – just convert an old horse trailer into a “US Foreign Policy Tollbooth” and start collecting quarters from the non-obedient countries. Look, just within the last few years we would’ve collected:
Egypt - $2.75
Libya - $1.50
South Africa - $0.25
North Korea - $6.25
Iran - $3.75
Syria - $11.00
Saudis - $0.25
Argentina - $0.50
Venezuela - $2.75
Uruguay - $0.25
Brazil - $2.25
India - $3.25
China - $1.75
Crimea - $21.50
Russia - $82.75
By now, we would’ve collected close to $150 – enough to start a new entitlement program. I think? ;-)
Looney
Inkeeping with my desire to keep this whole saga in perspective, I post the following sanity check.
http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-madness-of-president-putin.html#more
DaddyO
so far 2 members of the red team didn't read the article..... Thanx
Israeli President Peres asks the Russian President:
- Vladimir, are you of Jewish ancestry?
- Putin: What makes you think so, Shimon?
- Peres: You made the US pay five billion dollars to deliver Crimea to Russia. Even for a Jew, that is audacious!
You made my day. LOL
That pro-Russian rally has got to be shaking up the pro-Western puppets in the Ukraine. We're going to shortly find out who is the most repressive regime - the pro-West or the pro-Russian. We will also find out who has the most power to move forward. +1 CD.
All over the world, the friendly mask of government is coming off. People are starting to see that governments lie, cheat, steal, murder, and oppress. A great question to ask any liberal, "What has government EVER achieved without theft, murder, or coercion?" The answer is nothing. Go forth and start a brush fire for liberty.
You could have ended with "What has government ever achieved?"
Watching Switzerland keel over and die to "euro progressive" forces and "US banking" is really enough to show that there are no independent Gooberments in the West. The Zio media aqlone is enough to make people vote one way or another and if that doesn't work, politician's can be bent over various International barrels.
The immigrant vote in Switzerland is encouraging but the Swiss are stuck in that they don't want their big banks shut out of the US market because of the thieves at the IRS.
In case you hadn't noticed or studied history or human nature... There have ALWAYS been psychos and sociopaths, willing to do whatever it takes to take from others.
The reason people group together includes mutual protection, like they did in the Middle Ages, when the peasants first formed villages against armed bands of marauders (lone farmers got picked off in a jiffy). Eventually those armed bands of marauders opted for a cushier and safer lifestyle by providing "defense & security" to the peasant villagers and merchants -- thus becoming the Robber Barons, who lived in castles.
Thus murderers and thieves 'evolve' from individual players or small groups, into ever larger groups of marauders with a control structure, until these "outsiders" become "insiders". It's in their very DNA to bully, steal and kill. Reverting from a Federal Republic back into Feudal Regions (billed as Regional Republics) may different than promised or envisioned. Switzerland holds the modern record for enduring the longest, and even they have now been taken over by the Globalist Banker cartel.
The only question you have to ask yourself is, under what type of regime will the villagers be 'best' off, to pursue their own version of "survive and if possible, thrive".
Deep Kirk, good stuff, I always like your analyses
You know your history Kirk. Government was the criminal class learning a new way to rob, rape, steal, murder, control and get payed taxes for doing it.!
This is a good presentation of what he said. Check it out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbNFJK1ZpVg#t=671
Please note that the title of the video is sarcastic.
This is a better presentation of what you just wrote. Check it out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbNFJK1ZpVg#t=671
Please note that the title of the video is sarcastic.
Putin should pay the Ukrainian military a bounty to go round up the ****king oligarchs who have looted the Ukraine like Yats and the rest. Pay em as Bounty Hunters. Wanted: Dead or Alive. Pay them 10 extra rubles for dead versus alive. Ditto for any dumbass Blackwater types still in the Ukraine.
Let these Ukrainian Army kids go out and take back the Ukraine from these blood sucking NWO parasites. Help them take back the Ukriane from these Troika parasite banksters and McCainiacs.
Wanted: Dead or Alive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOzdhnqhxSw
Many of you expressed skepticism at RT's Liz Wahl's phoney patriotism and her bashing of her employer while on the air. You might want to check out this:
http://rt.com/usa/liz-whal-neocons-twitter-101/
"Remember the Mainstream’s frothing over Liz Wahl’s resignation from RT? How she was feted by the networks, supported by the beast, and embraced heartily by neo-con Russia-haters?
Turns out things might not be as spontaneous as they seem – in fact, in the paranoid world of neo-con American journalism things are very rarely spontaneous."
Cozy relationship Liz has with those who backed the coup.
Anyone who is lame enough to go on MSNBC to complain about government influence of media at RT is either a paid or voluntary idiot
Rachel Madcow is paid, but not an 'idiot': she prefers to be paid in FRNs and femme-groupies, cause Rachel is the one who wears the strap-on in her household.
still say she's a lizard.
that's my tinfoil and i'm sticking with it, cass or no cass.
Why does all of the good shit happen on the weekend. During the week, I can screw off at work and read articles...but the weekend is my time, I have trips to go on, yardwork to get done and other important things to me. Come on Russia, get with the program and get his shit rolling on Monday and then wind it up Friday....
I think its done on purpose Jerry, people tend to be more relaxed on the weekends, better time to move in and take the base when everyone on it is thinking of getting off of it for the weekend and going to the beach.
C'mon you supposedly revolutionary bastids in Kiev, knock the chip off Putin's shoulder...
FUCK THE EU.
And fuck the city of london
Let's be fair and fuck everyone.
I'll start with the women. You get going on the dudes.
This needs some more organizing. I'll start with the models, you take the fat broads.
And I'll start with the 18 year old women and work my way up..
This is ahping up to be a real orgy soon!
TOGA! TOGA! TOGA!!
Well then, FUCK ME TOO.
Yea! Fuck you right in the ass!
Yeah!!!!! Oh wait.......
Line drawn
Lol thanks everyone. That was hysterical.
We're all fucked already. Only question now is how deep.
Only as far as until it comes out the other end!
The EUSsA fucks up again. Well they succeeded in unifying Russian speaking people, and they have improved Putin's approval rating so they have that going for them.
All part of the "hope and change" we were looking for, right?
b-b-but the MSM says Putin is extremely unpopular in Russia- although that might just be among the members of Pussy Riot.
pussy riot- name that Vlad has for his personal stash
Until now it has been countries choosing sides, now it's citizens. You can be sure that there are a lot of individuals in difficult situations.
World is in the shitter from shitty leadership and these shitheads need to be shat down the toilet so we can get our shit back together.
I looked at more footage and pics from the rallly in Donetsk. This was clearly not just a handful of people. You're right. This is going to end up as citizen versus citizen long after the paid instigators and their handlers have fled the scene.
Putin's girlfriend Kabaeva,chat with other girl.I asked Vladimir for cream,he gave me crimea.Now i am afraid to ask for kalaska/chariot/:)
Shit could be about to hit the fan...
"Ukrainian forces surrounded by Russian troops at a base in Crimea are preparing to use their weapons, reports Sky's Stuart Ramsay.""He said as the Russians approach they are to shout to them at them that they are armed, fire in the air; if that doesn't stop it they are to engage. He said it was their destiny."
He must have read charge of the light brigade too many times.
Edit: doubled
It is not their destiny. It is the Ukraine telling them to commit suicide.
How long will it be before Barry makes another speech and proclaims another red crayon line?
I bet Monday there will be more lines in the whitehouse. (Softball to anyone that wants it...)
Edit: double post
If Russia invades mainland #Ukraine, stoic passivity of the UKR military will end & Europe will instantly have its biggest war since 1945.
Which side will they be on ?
Civil war is coming to whats left of Ukraine.Putin will stay out of it for now, unless
there is a pogrom of Russian speakers.
I doubt Russia will stay out of it for long... with this kind of news...
Reports: Russian military buildup on Ukrainian border now includes field hospitals
I mean...
Going to be a lot of DP's when Ukraine errupts into civil war.
Those field hospitals will be needed.Russians don't take an obozo without
planning it.
<moved>
If the Donbas join Russia, it makes it even more certain (following Crimea's departure) that future regimes in Kiev will be dominated by Fatherland & Banderite types, hence more antagonism towards Russia. This shit is just getting started and it's going to get uglier. Being the strong, decisive but also practical sort of leader I think he is, Putin will want to avoid a hot war, but if NATO and their Kiev puppets are hell bent on setting up foreign missile/troop bases on Ukrainian soil, then what alternative would Russia have?
Quite. I suspect they'd make an altogether more effective job of it than the US did with Cuba.
you filthy russian aminals donte you udderstand putin has commited an act of world war.
and you intranet kreeps sit in your underpants with a bone on for mad dog putin.
this cannot be allowed to stand.
the clinton family,tony blair,soros,kissinger and brezzinski.the mi6,mossad and the cia,chevron and monsanto have spent billions on this project.
the rothschild family nat,jacob and edwyne have already chatham house brookings think tanked this all years ago.
mad dog putin is trying to spoil the eyes wide shut child slaughter blood party because he was not invited.
chevrons and monsanto has a super tight deadline here.
putin must capitulate to superior jewish masonic forces.
he must also back down and allow gay weddings in church and open his doors to elton john gay adoptions.
They're waiting for the highest bidder...like any mercenaries.
Good players in the 'Game' think many moves ahead. Great players however, also think of their opponents possible moves way ahead. Add arrogance and hubris to a player's thinking defeat is surely to follow.
All of the power that the West has wielded, for so many years is coming to an end. Moves and events that the West at one time had never imagined are happening, taking place right now. Such as the end of Fiat currencies and the phony debt system. Unfortunately, some things will remain the same. Lies and corruption will continue. That part of the game has been well planned by all players, in fact are part of the rules.
USA, (West) Watch out!
People given a choice, in Russia no less. Who would have thought?
The ironies keep coming, thick and fast.
Belbek airbase - Live | Cam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoLi25S-Kv8&feature=share
The gate is removed but Ukrainian flag still there,
An ambulance just arrived along with some (russian?) IFV,
definitely russians surrounded Belbek airbase
Here is statement from Ukrainians from Belbek Airbase? - possibly
http://belbek62.com.ua/novosti/kak-eto-proiskhodit.html
Was just watching that live feed when there seemed to be some action happening with running around of the Russian troops outside the gate. A soldier looked up at the camera and then shortly afterwards the camera was pulled down with the last image of a camoflauged soldier closeup.
Things might be heating up at the airbase.
Thanks for the last news :)
as of 3/22/2014 11:18 Live cam is officially dead
what You see now was recorded yesterday
Yep, there were masked men in uniforms; they removed the gate; let the ambulance in and there was some movement inside base.
More money same lifestyle
True but what a lifestyle it is compared to being on plain flat boring Ukraine....
dude on his scooter in crimea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pxIKPlERSM&list=PLcp2JEeC0C350jRGF-rU-Z...
Some blond chick doing reviews of crimea hot spots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGVadfIvoA0&list=PLcp2JEeC0C350jRGF-rU-Z...
my fav tourist scenic shots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDCt03sFdvg&list=PLcp2JEeC0C350jRGF-rU-Z...
touristy flick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5fEliyAzTc
some cute brunette showing some caves that used to be inhabited in Crimea mtns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f1pBHEbzu0&list=PLcp2JEeC0C350jRGF-rU-Z...
Take a shot do a shot clean the 47
Field hospitals? This is not an exercise. Russian soldiers about to put those Chinese-made boots to good use.
Crimea is Russia bitchez!
When Ukrainians seek work in Turkey to earn Turkish Liras as "hard currency" you can see why Conscripts look to Russia as offering better prospects than Ukraine. For years Ukraine has rented out its troops for UN Peacekeeping because The Security Council Members pay the bills in hard currency
Thanks for another contribution to our understanding. Whichever way Blackwater-type mercenaries being sent into Ukraine may cut, it won't be because they are being unleashed on naive victims.
Watching from the sidelines a few things seem apparent.
With the Internet, and proximity of much of Ukraine to Russia, Crimea and Byelorussia, news of what's happening in Crimea - and what happened during the so-called revolution - must be reaching every military base and every serviceman in Ukraine. They are facing a moment of choice, as individuals and as units, over what they are committed to, what they are willing to fight and die for.
I imagine this is all anyone is talking about now in every military unit - unless there are units dominated by fascist thugs. And even there, all must be searching thier consciences and discovering what's in their hearts.
By now they must all know of the evidence that the ougrageous slaughter of protesters in Kiev and the killing of police were done by the same snipers, probably professionals. And all but the most hate-blinded must know in their heart that it was done by or for Svoboda.
By now they must know that Crimea's secession was not a Russian invasion but a free act of the Crimean people.
They are certainly watching closely as the reports come in, as unit by unit, ship by ship, most of the Ukraine navy and most of the Ukraine servicemen on Crimea defect to Russia.
By now they have surely all heard the evidence that their supposed revolution was organized and paid for by the US.
By now they have surely all seen that their so-called revolution is led by haters, haters of Russia, of Russians and Jews, thugs and bullies whose program is repression and whose method is terror.
Many servicemen are Russian-speakers, even with Russian roots. Many have relatives, friends, relationships in Russia. Probably all have Russian-speaking friends and family.
A great re-crystalization must be going on inside Ukraine, within the military and among the people. Perhaps in all of Ukraine. Perhaps even in Lviv. Not just in the military, but at every family table, every break room or locker room, every church gathering, every tavern, social club or veterans club, the whole population must be watching spellbound and talking about this non-stop.
A relatively non-violent yet dramatic resolution, hopefully a dissolution of the putchist government but perhaps an accessioon of most of Ukraine to Russia, is still possible. What a deeply humiliating defeat for Obama and the Neo-con project that would be!
It's beginning to seem possible that Putin is wise and patient enough to let this happen, and that the troops on the border are mainly to keep NATO out while it does. He's doing good so far!
But a real civil war is also possible, which would probably see US and Russian intervention, leading at best to an armed truce between an East Ukraine (or a Ukraine Autonomous Region of Russia) and a West Ukraine, with a closed armed border and perhaps Russian and US troops facing each other, like something from the Cold War. Or at worst it can lead to World War.
The neo-con program - the defeat and dismemberment of the Russian Federation, leading to the isolation and defeat of China and full world dominance - is in play. They dream of straining Russia to the breaking point. They can be expected to use their control over US and NATO policy, the MSM, the CIA and NSA, NGO's, fascist proxies and the right-wing governments of Israel and Georgia to sow confusion and create provocations.
Our job is to block this from inside the Empire, as best we can.
It seems impossible, a hopeless task. Surely the sheeple will get swept up by the lies and the war drums, as has happened so many times since 1898.
But remember, last year stopping the war on Syria seemed impossible!
Something has shifted. Something much bigger than ZH, but ZH is very much a part of it.
Then again, Putin's freedom to wait is being actively challenged:
"Western Mercenaries in Ukraine?"
http://www.globalresearch.ca/western-mercenaries-in-ukraine/5374815
Then again once more, let's face it - Putin also has mercenaries and special ops that can go in (and most surely have) to counter-act the western mercs and preserve Putin's options.
There comes a time when you have to lay down your rifle, say fuck it, and go have a beer and start your life again....
"Why the importance? Because whether the protest is real or fabricated, any additional provocations against the prevailing pro-Russian population will surely be used as a pretext by Putin to continue his "expansion" campaign into East Ukraine under the same pretext as he has made all too clear previously: to protect the minority population. And, as the west has shown all too clearly with a whole lot of meaningless sanctions, there is nobody to stop him."....
Here maybe this will help making those veiled words come out a little bit more distinctly!
http://www.darkmoon.me/2014/god-bless-you-president-putin-by-dr-kevin-barrett/Darn good article Nemo, everyone must read it. Too bad those two Navy Seals on that Maersk Alabama didnt see the light and realize they are just as dispensible. I have always said that those kitchen granite countertop upgrades in all those fancy homes owned by MIC office workers, DC Politicians, and corporate board members, have blood on them.
I also like what you said @whywait, good points
Don't thank me thank Kevin Barrett.
I sure am glad that this issue is resolved so we can keep ploughing to new highs on the S/P, and gold can be smacked down per Goldman Sachs' prognostications.
Go Russian people. Smoke bomb those globlaists out of your house.
Man sometimes I feel like I'm driving down the road using only my review mirrors ....
****Boring Personal Shit Alert****
I've never really been much of a political minded person, just didn't see the need I supose; the G20 protests were nothing more than another reason for a traffic jam and talk of globalists agendas nothing more than background noise. My intrest of history seemed to be limited the past couple of centuries - and wholly a product of our "Educational System" as such quite limited - narrow minded perhaps. The wars of the past 150 years seemed to be the areas that captivated my interest, with WW2 and Vietnam holding the most intrigue for me but only from a tactical perspective, never the political angle I never stopped to ask what was the purpose of this war; WW2 was easy - stop Hitler; VN was a bit unclear to my young mind but if the US government felt we had to be there then it must be true...... right....right?
Now, as I ponder the past decades, I wonder how such a simple plan, that was my life could have taken such a tangential excursion. From the dot com bust to the sub-prime meltdown, from gulf war part 1 to 911 to Iraq to MENA to Ukraine to the Asian cauldron to the total destruction of American society - my worry wart has become a worry wort as I try to make some form of financial order from this geopolitical entropy. I find myself trying to navigate a new path to freedom but this requires putting the pieces of this jigsaw in some understandable order; heres where the rearview comes in.
My failure to pay attention to the political leaders that have been installed in our name over these past decades along with my ignorance to the existence of various puppet master cabals that control our political process and drive globalization efforts has brought me to the precipice I loosely call my life.
That said, my ongoing quest to understand these things leaves me increasingly distressed to have been blissfully ignorant for so long... but the more I read the more i see the same people doing the same things in different parts of the world with the same results........
According to von Clausewitz - War is the continuation of Politics by other means and Politics is the continuation of economics by other means..... how could i have missed that??
and then theres this http://www.opinion-maker.org/2011/03/special-report-ann-dunham-soetoro/
I should have stayed in the meadow ....... or at least brought a bigger bottle.....
Thank you Rakshas for a thoughtful post about your journey, which many of us can relate to, and for a link that is well worth taking the time to read for anyone trying to understand who Barack Obama aka Barry Soetoro really is. Which I would urge that we all do.
There's more to learn about Barry. I'm certain of that. But as Wayne Madsen points out, we won't find it in Wikipedia.
Understanding Obama is especially important if he is, as I have come to believe, a "designer politician", groomed for his role not as decision maker or commander, or even as manipulator, but as a kind of thrombosis of the political system. It's very hard not to react to him emotionally, but the same could be said for Lincoln, FDR or Nixon. A politician who was *designed* to be confusing, divisive and emotionally charged, designed to create paralysis, takes that to a whole new level.
Leaving aside what we may think of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, it's fascinating to watch their developing duel with the CIA for control of the Senate oversight function, in the process forcing Obama to show his hand. Fascinating and deadly dangerous.
See "Constitutional Conflict Escalates between US Senate and CIA" By Patrick Martin, http://www.globalresearch.ca/constitutional-conflict-escalates-between-u...