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Turkish F-16 Shoots Down Syrian Plane, Caught On Live Video

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Remember this country, the place which about a year ago was supposed to be "Ukraine" in terms of geopolitical escalations:

Syria map

Well, in the aftermath of what appears a tenuous detente over the Crimea while Putin plans his next step of how to "merge" with east Ukraine as he sets off to rebuild the USSR, Syria just may be set to regain its place at the top of the global geopolitical risk pyramid. Case in point, early this morning, the fragile ceasefire between Syria and Turkey was shatered after a Turkish F- 16 shot down a Syrian plane on Sunday after it crossed into Turkish air space in a border region where Syrian rebels have been battling President Bashar al-Assad's forces.

A photo of the falling plane was caught by twitter:

Reuters reports:

"A Syrian plane violated our airspace," Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan told an election rally of his supporters in northwest Turkey. "Our F-16s took off and hit this plane. Why? Because if you violate my airspace, our slap after this will be hard,"


The rebels have been fighting for control of the Kasab crossing, the border region, since Friday, when they launched an offensive which Syrian authorities say was backed by Turkey's military.


Syria said Turkish air defenses shot down the jet while it was attacking rebel forces inside Syrian territory, calling the move a "blatant aggression".


State television quoted a military source as saying the pilot managed to eject from the plane. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights monitoring group said initial reports from the area said the plane came down on the Syrian side of the border.


Al Manar, the television station of Assad's Lebanese ally Hezbollah, said two rockets had been fired from Turkish territory at the Syrian jet.

Amazingly, here is a clip of a live broadcast by HaberTurk which appears to have caught the moment of the plane's crash live on video.

Why did Turkey really engage? Simple: to distract from PM Erdogan's relentless political collapse when one after another political scandal is hitting the embattled premier who last week shut down access to Twitter, and it likely set to block YouTube as well, where a phone recording of his admitting graft and embezzlement can still be found. Naturally, it struck at the one country it knows will hardly fight back against the NATO member, although now that Russian foreign policy sentiment is once again shifting dramatically, and may call for far greater support for Syria, not to mention that suddenly Turkey is hardly in "democratic" Europe's good graces in the aftermath of the Twitter censorship scandal, Erdogan may just have miscalculated.

As for the next steps in Turkey, we repeat what we said on Friday: "We eagerly look forward to see which particular pro-Western agent is groomed to take Erdogan's place. After all remember: those Qatari gas pipelines that in a parallel universe, one without Putin, would have already been transporting nat gas under Syria, would enter Europe under Turkey."

Surely following yet another "chess" victory by Putin in the foreign relations arena, the urgency to find that Qatari natgas outlet to Europe is that much greater...


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Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:12 | 4582127 Theta_Burn
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Flying missles and crashing planes do have a way of wow'ing the crowd...

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:27 | 4582155 Max Hunter
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I don't know what the problem is. Everyone knows war is a necessary evil. Like eating and breathing. It's a healthyh human activity we are born to take part in.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:34 | 4582163 SafelyGraze
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most people have got Turkey advancing past Syria to the Sweet Sixteen

with Russia "the flaming gazproms" over Ukraine by 30+ points

and China over the Disputed Islands (winners of their conference tournament)


Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:44 | 4582178 flacon
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Is this good news for Chuck Schumer's SPY calls? S&P up 15 points tonight, probably. 

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 11:02 | 4582231 SilverIsKing
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With Thanksgiving 8 months away, Turkey feeling a little too big for their britches.

I expect that by early November, Turkey will be running around like chickens with their heads cut off and by the end of the month, most will have been killed.

Either that or this is just a chess game with the West trying to corner the market on Thanksgiving.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 12:00 | 4582382 Herd Redirectio...
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Russia and Turkey...  Not a bad geopolitical alliance from the strategic perspective.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 12:16 | 4582420 novictim
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"Not a bad geopolitical alliance"

Or how about the USA and Russia?  Or China and USA?  Or Russia and China?  Or China and India?  Or Japan and China and Indonesia?

It all sounds like good-stuff until you realize WHY they are not aligned and could never be aligned.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 12:41 | 4582481 remain calm
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Let me translate the vdeo since I speak fluent Turkish. "Obama is a pussy, he will draw another red line and Syria will continue to do what Putin wants without any fear of retahleation from the US. Obama is a pussy"

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 20:41 | 4583825 Tim_
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Syrian pilot: My aircraft was shot down by Turkish aircraft while within Syrian airspace

"The pilot told the Syrian TV that he was carrying out the mission of pursuing terrorists within Syrian territories, more than 7 kilometers away from the borders, and after arriving at the target’s location, establishing visual contact, and carrying out his mission, he turned around to return to base when rocket fired by a Turkish aircraft hit his aircraft, so he left it using the ejector seat."

"He asserted that his target was well within Syrian territories, and he parachuted inside Syrian territories, saying 'I will return to them in good health condition, high morale, strong willpower, and resolution like iron,' vowing to keep fighting until the last terrorist in Syria is dead."

Damascus: Turkish aggression in Kassab reflects actual involvement in events since beginning

"An official source at the Foreign and Expatriates Ministry labeled in a statement on Sunday Turkish aggression as 'unprecedented and unjustifiable' that also reflects bankruptcy of Erdogan."

"The aggression, the source noted, included firing tank and artillery shells on the Syrian territories to secure coverage for the armed terrorist groups to enter into Syria from the Turkish land."

"It reiterated that these 'serious' Turkish military attacks reflect Erdogan’s failure to handle the needs of the Turkish people who have rejected the Turkish government’s hostile policies against Syria as they also rejected the corruption which Erdogan is involved and uncovering the involvement which led to the Turkish people to take part in massive protests against Erdogan demanding the departure of his regime."

"'This escalation came in the framework of the aggressive policies of Erdogan’s government and its openly-provided support to the armed terrorist groups,' said the source, adding that the terrorist groups have taken up the Turkish lands as a shelter, springboard and arming center for them to kill innocent Syrians and destroy the infrastructure of the Syrian people."

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 01:07 | 4584502 Hovel Downs
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never is a very long time

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 12:29 | 4582453 TheReplacement
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Turkey would never want to be allied with Russia as Russia would dominate Turkey.  It works much better for them to be allied with Russia's rivals because they do not share a border.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 00:04 | 4584392 TheFutureReset
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What choice do they have? Stay aligned to the West and watch as they once again don't come the rescue of an ally? As the Euro zone stagnates or worse crumbles? 

No, I think Turkey can see the writing on the wall and will find a way to talk to Russia. A Russian brokered deal with Syria is a first step. Then a Black Sea Basin deal. Putin knows if he butters up Turkey they will have no choice but to accept. 

And don't forget about the Kurds. Russia could tell Turkey that they'll back Ankara if the Kurds want to follow the Crimean blueprint. Bottom line: Turkey has no choice. 

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 01:14 | 4584513 Hovel Downs
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I don't like basting Turkey in butter, because the milk solids burn. Two exceptions... use clarified butter or baste with butter  towards the end of the cooking time to get nice browning if needed.  Or third choice nuke the fuck out of it.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:44 | 4582180 ghengis86
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Memories of an archduke from that region comes to mind...

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:47 | 4582183 strannick
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Maybe after Max has one hour of war, hell be less blasse

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 11:01 | 4582233 Max Hunter
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maybe if people had a brain they would know I was being sarcastic..

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 12:07 | 4582404 SilverDOG
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Yes, we do have brains.

Those who do not, need not gain, pro war. 

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 11:00 | 4582221 skwid vacuous
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Elite Eight matchup between Sunni State and Shia U. should be a real barn-burner...

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 12:32 | 4582463 TheReplacement
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The sunnis exploded out to lead after the tip but the shia were able to make a game of it after a tremendous mahdi halftime speech by Ahmed Crazypants.  This game really went down to the wire folks.  In the end both Russia and the west won as both teams simply ran out of players.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 12:19 | 4582427 novictim
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Nice, the deadpan sarc.  LOL

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 14:21 | 4582802 Cat Sniper
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Grab your hat and gun and get to it soldier. LOL

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 20:40 | 4583821 11b40
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how about sharing personal observations from the war(s) you have taken part in.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:45 | 4582181 caconhma
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If Russia moves deeper into Ukraine and Turkey ignites a wider Middle the war, the USA will not be able to protect Israel.

Obama America has put itself in a very shitty situation!

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 11:04 | 4582239 Theta_Burn
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Protect Israel? their first strike will make everyones head spin

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 11:48 | 4582351 Uncle Remus
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It'll be a short dance.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 11:47 | 4582349 Uncle Remus
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Bleeds? Leads.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 13:02 | 4582585 Dimons jock
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Might be a little off topic but that anchor is HAAWWWTTT!

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 15:03 | 4582921 Isotope
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Naw, that kinda shit is never off topic. Everyone thinking the same.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:12 | 4582128 TideFighter
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Caught on Live Media (uh, huh), right! Bury the pilot at sea, quick.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:29 | 4582158 FlipFlop
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They not getting attention while Crimea is stealing all of it. Need to be on the news, no matter what.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:14 | 4582129 fonzannoon
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Talk to me goose.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:57 | 4582214 therover
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HA..just watched Top Gun last night !

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:59 | 4582220 KickIce
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Son, your ego is writing checks your body can't cash.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 11:19 | 4582262 gmrpeabody
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Let's not forget the cargo plane full of rubber dog shit...

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 11:26 | 4582279 MontgomeryScott
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What's a 'chafing dish'?


Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:15 | 4582131 RacerX
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Talk about having a front-row seat.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:15 | 4582133 Cognitive Dissonance
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Let the Games begin.......again and again and again.

What good is a war machine if you ain't gonna use it?

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:17 | 4582134 blabam
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Without the military it would be chaos and people would die! lol 

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:20 | 4582141 The Gooch
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Sun, 03/23/2014 - 11:49 | 4582357 Uncle Remus
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Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:21 | 4582142 Motorhead
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And w/o the military, no more destroying villages to save them!

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 11:51 | 4582364 Uncle Remus
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What? You think DHS is going to let all that ammo go to waste? Or militarized police with MRAPs? Phht. Not a chance.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 12:35 | 4582477 TheReplacement
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Oh you mean like the darkages when everyone got along famously and there was plenty for all?

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 12:49 | 4582534 Emergency Ward
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Thank Allah, God, G_d, and our friends Nancy Pelosi and Peter King for keeping the lights on and for providing the feudal serfs with the TSA which keeps us safe and the NSA which protects our privacy.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:26 | 4582150 YHC-FTSE
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It's all so predictable.  2 months and a little over 3 weeks to go until the impossible chemical weapons deadline. 

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:35 | 4582165 RacerX
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sounds like you got the script in advance?

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 11:07 | 4582244 Manipuflation
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I was going to say that those are not Turkish F-16s but rather American ones minus some avionics.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 11:45 | 4582346 Cacete de Ouro
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I guess the Syrian jet must have had a little blue twittering bird painted on the side of the cockpit.

Remember that mad dog Erdogan is after all of the Twitters - "all of them"

"Twitter-schmitter, we will wipe all of them out"

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 12:36 | 4582480 TheReplacement
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How can you not pull for a guy who hates social media?

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 15:37 | 4583020 palmereldritch
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Those fires being lit under Erdogan in Turkey are his marching orders in Syria.

Watch how as Turkey does more of the heavy lifting in Syria the pressure at home will ease...pipelines...pipelines...there are new wars in the pipeline

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 12:36 | 4582483 Emergency Ward
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The dogs of war are barking, who let the dogs out? --- WOOF, WOOF

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:17 | 4582135 Greshams Law
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This is better and more complete coverage than CNN. Well done.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:20 | 4582139 dogismycopilot
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Fuck that, I am rooting for the Assad regime. "You have to bail us out goose, i can't reach the ejection handle!"

You know those are the right guys to back if Obama is supporting Al Qaida and the Liver Eaters are now getting ready to take on Baghdad.

I guess Erdogan hasn't read that bible passage about not throwing stones from your glass house....(sarc)

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:38 | 4582168 One And Only
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I'm rooting for Iraq. Gooooooo Iraq!!!

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:42 | 4582173 TahoeBilly2012
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This could a great time for France to invade Switzerland...I can also see Italy taking Slovenia, there is really a million different scenarios.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 11:47 | 4582334 cossack55
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Would that be Italy with or without Venice?

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 12:37 | 4582486 TheReplacement
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What would Switzerland do with all the prisoners?

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:49 | 4582188 Berspankme
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I have Iraq in sweet sixteen and to advance. 

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 11:45 | 4582341 BLOTTO
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Nor the passage the talks about Russia/Turkey/Libya/Iran vs Israel and her allies...

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 13:54 | 4582745 hot sauce technician
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Go Assad! Yay Bashr!

What are you smoking brah?

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:20 | 4582140 Flux
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What we have here is a failure to communicate ...

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:27 | 4582143 One And Only
Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:53 | 4582203 RafterManFMJ
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Yes the KB-35 is grounded so much the only way it could shoot an enemy would be it they were parked in front of it.

Or maybe you could get a tractor to tow it into a grounded enemy plane?

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 11:28 | 4582286 wakeupsheeps
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The F35 makes a great paperweight for the man who has everything.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:24 | 4582144 Smegley Wanxalot
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Is this what happened to Malaysia Air Flight 370?  CNN's psychics will tell us this evening.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:39 | 4582169 nmewn
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“Naturally, I don’t have hard, concrete evidence,” Lisa Williams confessed. “I think any psychic who has hard, concrete evidence can’t do their job correctly.”

Yes, of course,

(Somebody just shoot me)

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:23 | 4582145 nelsonmandella
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If I were Putin


1) secure Crimera 

2) secure Istanbull 

3) secure Egypt 


Let China take everything else 

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:44 | 4582179 dogismycopilot
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add Damascus to the list - few people know, but Damascus was once the centre of Christianity in the Middle East. Syria was really up and coming until the Liver Eaters fucked it all up.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:50 | 4582192 Berspankme
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they have some seriously hot women

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 11:05 | 4582243 N57Mike
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Game of Risk, game on baby ....

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 13:12 | 4582622 pot_and_kettle
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ante up on Antioch?

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 14:04 | 4582761 hot sauce technician
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Syria is beautiful country from what I've heard and read but the Assads are borderline psychopathic killers. They belong to the Alawite secret sect, a tiny minority and have used terror to rule for the past ~40 years. They've screwed it up. Probably before this civil war started, you could've gone for a visit and actually have enjoyed yourself. Cheap food & lodging, historical sights, nature. Pretty low key, but enjoyable. Now? Maybe Tadmur in the desert would be laid back, but how does one get there without risking their life?

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 15:16 | 4582958 tony wilson
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hey cunt

shut the fuck up syrai is just another saudi,cia jew deconstruction production

fuck you

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 15:10 | 4582942 Son of Captain Nemo
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I'm sure you'll appreciate this.  Everyone being so wrapped up on Ukraine and Russia they forgot the devastation and counting by the U.S., Saudi Arabia and Tel Aviv in Damascus.

Let's face it. We owe a debt to Russia that they intervened when they did in Syria last September their strategic self-interests aside. 

One can only imagine what would have happened if they had'nt?

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:24 | 4582147 IReallyDontCare
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Turkish government supporting CIA terrorists,what a shocker.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:29 | 4582157 mrblah
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"Because it violated MY airspace"


He sounds more like Assad every day. No, scratch that. He sounds WORSE than Assad.

No wonder the Kurds want to seperate from the NATO-propped-up Madman and his dictatorship,

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:32 | 4582159 One And Only
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Don't fly your plane in MY AIR. MY AIIIRRRRR!!!!

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 12:12 | 4582410 SilverDOG
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Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:47 | 4582185 Flagit
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He sounds WORSE than Assad.


wait, i thought Assad was the good guy?

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 12:02 | 4582387 Abi Normal
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Come ZH'ers, ALL of them are the bad guys...there are no good guys left...wake the fuck up!

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:33 | 4582161 Seize Mars
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The Great Eye wants war, any way possible, and will have it.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 11:38 | 4582281 Kirk2NCC1701
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Nice allusion, nice play on phonics (The Great I wants war).

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:34 | 4582162 Boomberg
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This was not a Syrian airplane shot down. It was an airplane of the Twitter-Youtube coalition infringing on Turkish airspace, or a Google blimp. 

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:40 | 4582171 scuttlebutt
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Sensational news - yawn


Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:42 | 4582174 dogismycopilot
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i was just in turkey a few weeks ago. istanbul definately feels different these days from even just a year ago...our supplier there is very nervous...chinese keep beating them in tenders and this guy running the country is definately, definately fucking up business on the home front and cash money is tight. 

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:49 | 4582187 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Notice where the largest concentration of Syrian forces are surrounding. Homs.

Where does the pipeline end and the future pipe line want to extend to?

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:49 | 4582189 q99x2
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Russia should ask the Syrian government and people if they would like to join Russia--and Venice California too..

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:54 | 4582200 Son of Captain Nemo
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"Well, in the aftermath of what appears a tenuous detente over the Crimea while Putin plans his next step of how to "merge" with east Ukraine as he sets off to rebuild the USSR"...

Yes Russia has a military that can more than adequately defend itself against Western aggression in it's own neighborhood in the overthrow of legitimate government(s) as we've witnessed Washington ,Tel Aviv and London orchestrate yet again which depending on your association and who started it makes all the difference in the debate.

If Russia has it's footing and can turn to ash Western Europe and the American shores for a war it won't start if we're sincerely comparing track records in the war and occupation agenda -so be it!

Hope that's not making the advertisers too nervous?...

I posted this yesterday by Dr. Kevin Barrett but it's a sincere and honest portrayal of what is wrong when "a loser" continues to lose.
Sun, 03/23/2014 - 12:55 | 4582554 Lin S
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Thanks for these links!

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 16:53 | 4583160 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Damn, is that a picture of Christiane Amanpour or Marv Albert in a wig?

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:53 | 4582204 Caviar Emptor
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Yanks do it. Chinks do it.
Even Roosian Putin says that he could do it.
Let's do it!
Let's shoot 'em down!

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 10:55 | 4582207 shovelhead
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Iranian Republican Guard al-Quds forces have been in Syria for almost 25 years and combined with Assad's guys still can't dig out the Syrian rebels and the imported Sunnis ?

This could last a long time.

Better call US and Russia in to get a final solution as to whos pipeline goes where.

Turkey is just a sideshow, like midget boxing before the headline event.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 11:00 | 4582226 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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There is also a reason why Kasab crossing is not in the hands of people like Al-Qaeda because they just call anyone who isn't Islamic opposition whether they really are or aren't. You know Chinese, Japanese Jew, Joooo they all look the same.....

Kesab, Kessab or Kasab (Arabic: ???[kæsæb], Armenian: ?????, Kesab) is an Armenian-populated town in northwestern Syria.


Kesab is an ancient Armenian town, which dates back to the period of Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia. The population today is mainly Armenian[3] with an Alawite Arab minority.



Kesab has three operating Armenian churches:

  1. The Holy Mother of God (Virgin Mary) Armenian Apostolic Church of Kesab (dates back to the Middle Ages, renovated in 1880).
  2. The Holy Trinity Armenian Evangelical Church of Kesab (1909, renovated in 1997).
  3. Saint Michael the Archangel Armenian Catholic Church of Kesab (1925).

Churches in the nearby villages:[7]

  1. Surp Stepanos (Saint Stephen) Armeian Apostolic Church built in 909 in Karadouran village near the Syrian-Turkish borderline. Surp Stepanos is the oldest standing Armenian church in Syria. It was renovated in 1987 by the Armenian-French organization "Yergir yev Mshaguyt" (Country and Culture).
  2. Church of the Holy Mother of God of the Apostolic Armenians in Karadouran village. On 18 October 2009, His Holiness Aram I Catholicos (of the Holy See of Cilicia), consecrated the new Virgin Mary's Church in Karadouran.[8] The newly built church came to replace the old church that was built in 1890 and ruined in 1942, then built again in 1950 and was about to crumble in the beginning of the 21st century.[9]
  3. Emmanuel Armenian Evangelical Church in Ekizolukh (opened in 1911, construction completed in 1956).
  4. The Armenian Evangelical Church in Keorkeuna.
  5. The Armenian Evangelical Church in Karadouran (1908, renovated in 1986)
  6. The Church and the Convent of Our Lady of Assumption of the Catholic Armenians in Baghjaghaz (1890, renovated in 2003).


So are they really opposition forces or just Armenian Christians being used for their land aka borders. People define borders, borders don't define people....


Sun, 03/23/2014 - 11:10 | 4582250 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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And the answer is.

Syrian opposition forces launched an assault on a regime-controlled border crossing into Turkey on Friday.

The main armed opposition group in Syria, the Free Syrian Army (FSA) fighters mounted an early morning attack to seize the town of Keseb and its Turkish border gate, opposition sources told.

Sound of clashes were heard in the Turkish border town of Yayladagi and villages along the border.

Three regime-controlled border posts have reportedly been captured by the opposition.

A Turkish commander, who wanted to remain anonymous, also confirmed to our correspondent that there were clashes taking place.

Turkey has put its security forces on alert and warned its citizens living near the border.

The war between the Free Syrian Army and forces loyal to the embattled president Bashar Assad has been in an uneasy stalemate since late 2013.

Recently, regime-affiliated troops reportedly captured Yabroud, one of the last opposition strongholds in the mountainous Qalamoun region along the Lebanese border.

On February, the National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces made a reshuffle in FSA's general staff, replacing former chief Salim Idriss with veteran field commander Abdullah al-Bashir.



Who is Brigadier Abdullah al-Bashir? 

Parachute Brigadier Abdul Ilah al-Bashir Al Nuaimi, the new Chief of Staff of the “Free Syrian Army”, is from Al-Rafid village in Al-Quneitra Syrian province (southwest) on the border with the Golan Heights occupied by Israel. He is one of the elders of Al-Naimi clan, one of the largest Syria’s clans. 

Bashir dissented from the forces of the Syrian regime on July 2012, and since that date, he worked on founding and forming the nucleus of the “Free Syrian Army” in the province of Al-Quneitra, before leading the operations there and therefore heading the military junta later. 

Dependent sources stated that Al-Bashir is one of the coordinators with el-Khalq terrorists in Iraq, where he asked them to assist in Syria. Also, he is the commander of the guerrilla militia of the Free Syrian Army in the area of Al-Quneitra and the Golan Heights, who has been moving between the forestry of Breka, Bir Ajam, and Jabatha Al-Khashab with the help of the Israeli enemy, according to the information given by the dependent source that is not authenticated yet. 

Who is the “Mujahedin” el-Khalq organization?

Is a terrorist organization led by Massoud Rajavi. It is a dissenting organization based in Iraq, aims at overthrowing the current Iranian regime, and works on supporting the terrorist plans, while it was discovered later that it has tight contacts with the militia of the Free Syrian Army. 

Here remains the question, why the terrorist opposition aspires to overthrow its leader Salim Idris and to appoint the most murderous man instead of him, who is the ally of Israel currently and who coordinates with el-Khalq terrorist group in Iraq ..?!


Sun, 03/23/2014 - 11:30 | 4582266 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Massoud Rajavi (Persian: ????? ????‎, born 18 August 1948) is the president of the National Council of Resistance of Iran ("NCRI") and the Secretary-General of People's Mujahedin of Iran ("PMOI"), popularly known as the "MEK" for "Mujahadeen-e-Khalq", an opposition organization active inside and outside of Iran.


The People's Mojahedin of Iran or the Mojahedin-e-Khalq (MEK, also PMOI, MKO; Persian: ?????? ??????? ??? ????? s?zm?n-e moj?hedin-e khalq-e ir?n) is an Iranian leftist revolutionary organization that participated in the 1979 Revolution that overthrew the Pahlavi Shah. Following the conflict with Ayatollah Khomeini MEK started[2] an open war and most of its members fled abroad. It is now an opposition movement in exile, that advocates the overthrow of the Islamic Republic of Iran.[3]

Founded on September 5, 1965 by a group of left-leaning Muslim Iranian university students as an Islamic and Marxist political mass movement,[4] the MEK was originally devoted to armed struggle against the Shah of Iran and its supporters.[5] In the immediate aftermath of the 1979 Islamic Revolution, the MEK and the Tudeh Party at first chose to side with the clerics led by Ayatollah Khomeini against the liberals, nationalists and other moderate forces within the revolution. A power struggle ensued, and by mid-1981, MEK was fighting street battles against the Islamic Revolutionary Guards.[6][7] During the Iran–Iraq War, the group was given refuge by Saddam Hussein and mounted attacks on Iran from within Iraqi territory.[8]


These people in the region have long histories and it usually is complicated so you have to go with what is the primary goal(s) for each group, then regional and finally geopolitical world chessboard to figure out what team(s) they are playing for. They only have loyalty to those primary aims anything else they have no loyalty once overlapping interests no longer align.



Sun, 03/23/2014 - 11:00 | 4582229 stant
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one of theses days the pilots call sign will be "the arch duke"

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 11:01 | 4582234 Jack Burton
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The general direction of the early 21st century is one headed for war on a grand scale. NATO once defended Europe form the USSR, since the USSR ended, NATO has advanced relentlessly as the shock troops of the International Bankers and IMF. Wall-Street and London are the commanders of NATO. Syria and Ukraine are vital to banker plans, so they must be taken by force. Russia is the grand prize, that is why they continue to build and modernize the nuclear forces and advance at the cutting edge of missile technology. A good defense is their only chance not to be an IMF colony, resource stripped by the corporate entities whose power controls most western governments, especially the fake democracy of America.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 11:53 | 4582362 layman_please
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as you said, war is the real objective. ukraine was the bait. everybody knew putin would never let ukraine to slip away and he didn't disappoint. war is pretty much foregone conclusion now. cold or hot, time will tell.

world is in desperate need of a distraction as the ponzi is reaching the end of this cycle.

but usa and russia are both imf bitches, have no illusions.

Obama Exploiting Ukraine to Empower IMF and Dictatorships

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 12:15 | 4582418 Abi Normal
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Now Jack, you paint NATO as being so evil, and America being a fake, what insider info do you have to say Russia is the grand prize, do tell?

When was the last time NATO rolled into a country and took it over?  Afgan....pffft....Iraq maybe, but that was GW...

America is headed by oligarch's, so is Russia, and every other country.

I like ZH, but some of the fluff I read here is amazingly naive.

NOTE:  there are no good govts left...Russia was NEVER a good govt, and still is not.  America needs a reset, so does the rest of the world...too bad a lot a people have to die for it.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 13:08 | 4582608 TheMeatTrapper
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"When was the last time NATO rolled into a country and took it over?"


Yugoslavia - Check.

Libya - Check.

Syria - Cancelled.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 14:06 | 4582647 Abi Normal
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Bullshit....check...some people haven't got a fucking clue!  Is NATO ruling ANY of those countries right now?  Nod your head side to side...there fixed it for ya.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 15:59 | 4583056 woolly mammoth
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Nodding is in agreement.


Sun, 03/23/2014 - 18:31 | 4583429 bombdog
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NATO is the military arm. It doesn't rule anything it's just a tool for forcing governments out. What we have are puppet governments so that guys like you think everything is normal. See? Err.. I guess you probably don't get it. Basically what you see on the TV isn't really like what's going on.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 16:58 | 4583162 layman_please
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abi, nato is worse than any single government, bar none. but when i would have to choose between russia or usa, i would still go with usa as i wouldn't wish soviet union experience even to an enemy. soviet union is gone but the mentality is not.

though with this pace, i'm not sure who will establish new soviet union first, usa or russia.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 11:29 | 4582280 Joe A
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The Turkish pilot was one of Erdogan's nephews?

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 11:32 | 4582303 Quinvarius
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So much for "transient" factors.  This is why I never write economic reports at 3am while I am drunk on the crapper.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 12:09 | 4582335 Peter Pan
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It's funny how Turkey makes incursions on a daily basis into Greece's airspace in an attempt to provoke but never gets shot down.

Erdogan is now looking to score some electoral points before he is shot down as well.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 11:43 | 4582336 Son of Loki
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I read about that guy in Houston who 'violated' his neighbors front yard territory and was shot dead by the neighbor. The neighbor got 20 years in prison.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 11:47 | 4582350 Duude
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Erdogan is attempting a Bill Clinton head fake.

Kudos for this Turkish news organization hiring that blonde news anchor appearing in the first 20 seconds.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 12:34 | 4582470 Manipuflation
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"A Syrian plane violated our airspace," Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan told an election rally in northwest Turkey. "Our F-16s took off and hit this plane. Why? Because if you violate my airspace, our slap after this will be hard."

And here I thought that twitter was the problem.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 13:20 | 4582650 sangell
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The Syrian Air Force has a long and distinguished history of having its aircraft shot down. It is what Syrian pilots are trained for.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 13:23 | 4582668 Uncle Remus
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How long before Russian ringers in the cockpit?

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 14:44 | 4582868 Rising Sun
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The real issue is that fucking cock sucker Barry handing over control of the internet to the UN.


We won't be seeing any of this anymore.


And dirty pigs like Erdogan will control what we do see.


Fuck off and die Barry!!!!!!!!!



Sun, 03/23/2014 - 14:52 | 4582888 robertocarlos
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Almighty, Almighty, this is PBR Streetgang, over.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 15:16 | 4582956 g'kar
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"Al Manar, the television station of Assad's Lebanese ally Hezbollah, said two rockets had been fired from Turkish territory at the Syrian jet."


You don't fire rockets at jets, thats for ground attack. Missles, yes.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 15:19 | 4582973 Lumberjack
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"the fragile ceasefire between Syria and Turkey was shatered after a Turkish F- 16 shot down a Syrian plane on Sunday after it crossed into Turkish air space in a border region where Syrian rebels have been battling President Bashar al-Assad's forces."


This reminds me of Cambodia during the Viet Nam era. The VC had troops and supplies just across the border in Cambodia as US troops (ground), were not allowed to cross it (part of Ho Chi Mihn Trail), limited air strikes were allowed until one day, Nixon allowed some ground forces to cross the border to a distance of 25 miles to destroy their HQ. That mission was scrubbed at the last minute when forces were just a couple of miles from their target. All I see here is another Charlie Foxtrot. 

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 15:22 | 4582982 tony wilson
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mossad,cia,sas train the terrorists in jordan and ship um across.

erdogan does the same on an industrial scale at incerlik.

erdogan is also providing a gateway training path for blackwater types going into ukraine.

for all his anti jewish anti us conspiracy bluster erdogan is one filthy stinking turkish loyal bankers jew.

Sun, 03/23/2014 - 16:14 | 4583092 RMolineaux
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This item makes the mistake of assuming that Putin wants to reestablish the territory of the former USSR without offering any evidence.  There is considerable evidence that he has no such intention, Brzezinski and his friends notwithstanding.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 02:54 | 4584616 Notarocketscientist
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America is over - the world knows that - and they are laughing.   NSA NSA NSA!

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