Ukraine Official Warns "Chance Of War With Russia Growing" As Mike Rogers Calls For Sending Weapons To Ukraine

Tyler Durden's picture

Concurrently with out post on what the odds are of a war between the US and Russia over Ukraine, the House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers, and war hawk, appeared on TV this morning saying that the United States ought to provide weapons to the Ukrainian army "so it could defend the country from a Russian invasion." This is the same Mike Rogers who last August did everything in his power to perpetuate the lie that Syrians had used chemical weapons against "rebels" (who subsequently turned out to be mostly Qatari-funded Al Qaeda mercenaries and other Islamic extremists) “There are things that we can do that I think we’re not doing. I don’t think the rhetoric (from Obama administration officials) matches the reality on the ground,” he said.

Seemingly oblivious that all Russia desperately wants is further escalation in the conflict, which can then immediately be seen as a provocation for further incursions into either the Ukraine and/or other former Soviet counteries, Rogers said that, while ruling out the deployment of U.S. military forces in Ukraine, he called for sending small arms and radio equipment that the Ukrainian military could use to “protect and defend themselves. And I think that sends a very clear message."

Absolutely it does: the message it sends is that US foreign policy has just hit rock bottom in terms of game theoretical escalation cluelessness. At least in Syria someone put some effort in fabricating YouTube videos and at least putting together a media campaign demonizing Assad. And still failed.

More from NBC:

Speaking from Tblisi, the capital of Georgia, a country that Russian forces invaded in 2008, Rogers said on NBC’s Meet the Press that the Ukrainians “passionately believe” that Russian President Vladimir Putin “will be on the move again in Ukraine, especially in the east.”

 

He said both Ukrainian and U.S. intelligence officials “believe that Putin is not done in Ukraine. It is very troubling. He has put all the military units he would need to move into Ukraine on its eastern border and is doing exercises.”

 

If Putin orders Russian forces into the Baltic nations of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania – which are NATO member states and which the United States is obligated by the NATO treaty to defend -- then “we (will) have allowed people who want to be free, who want to be independent, who want to have self-determination, and we’ve turned our back and walked away from them.”

 

In an apparent allusion to the seizure of Czechoslovakia which was a prelude to Hitler’s invasion of Poland in 1939, Rogers added, “The world did that once – and it was a major catastrophe.”

The full clip:

 

And while US neocons are warmongering, Ukraine is all too happy to raise the tension level just a bit more, hoping that NATO will finally intervene and present Putin with at least some hurdle to overrunning all of East Ukraine, using exactly the same template as already show in Crimea. From WSJ:

Ukraine’s top diplomat warned Sunday that the chances of war with Russia “are growing” due to the buildup of Moscow’s forces along his country’s eastern border. In an interview with ABC’s “This Week,” acting Ukrainian Foreign Minister Andrii Deshchytsia said Kiev “is ready to respond” should Russia–which has already seized the Crimea–move further in Ukrainian territory.

 

The situation is becoming even more explosive than it was a week ago,” Mr. Deshchytsia said.

 

He said Ukraine’s first approach to the Russian threat on the frontier would be diplomatic. But, he said, “people are also ready to defend their homeland.”

Meanwhile, Putin is sitting back in his chair and smiling, since everything so far continues to unwind precisely according to his plan.

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smlbizman's picture

his forehead would look so good with a red dot shinning on it....

IridiumRebel's picture

I think he is Christian and not Hindu. 

cossack55's picture

Did I not read somewhere that his wife is a big lobbiest at one of THE MICs.  Landed job after she married this pig.

kliguy38's picture

Knock it off ...you're giving pigs a bad name.......

strannick's picture

Mike Rogers sounds like one nasty, lying, evil mutherfucker. Maybe he should sends kids kids to war. Can imagine which lobbyists he is the sock puppet for.

Hapa's picture

fucking war mongers!  get off our planet!

Abi Normal's picture

That's telling Putin...now send him an email while you're at it...don't forget to mail Assad and Kim Jung Un too!  Oh wait, I fogot to add Obomber...let him know too!

SafelyGraze's picture

"Ukraine Official Warns "Chance Of War With Russia"

my bracket has russia moving on to the sweet sixteen

Unknown User's picture

US should add another Olympic event - deceitful warmongering.

ebworthen's picture

The arrogance of pricks like Mike Rogers is astounding.

This is the dumbest, most juvenile, and foolish posture to take.

Comparing Putin to Hitler and Russia to the Nazi's is not only ass backwards but a grevious insult to the Russian people.  Stupidity whipped with insanity and ego.

And from Tblisi, in Georgia!?  Talk about shoving a stick in the hornets nest.

Mike, you and CONgress and all your kids on the front lines first, dumbshit.

Edward Snowden = Hero

Mike Rodgers = Neo-Nazi M.I.C. Shill

aminorex's picture

The real insult to the Russian people is Vladimir Putin.  Not only an insult, but an assault, a rape, a kidnapping, and more than a few murders.

tony wilson's picture

listen fella he said putin is now nailin local innocent ukranians up on bits of wood.

just like sweet jesus who are you to say mike rogers is a liar.

we cannot allow putin to commit the crimes of the romans and the jews or whoever nailed up baby jesus.

this is scarey i wood hate to be nailed up

this reminds be of the bbc and spielberg jewish shows about the hiltler and the nazi hollow cause.

scrappy's picture

Parachute this armchair chickenhawk in.

Freddie's picture

I am not sure if others have posted this.  Here is a Joe DiGenova, former US attorney, talking about how Mike Rogers is blocking the investigation of Benghazi.  Rogers is an NeoCon RINO piece of shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEHFuiXnVJU

Joe DiGenova is a straight shooter.

IridiumRebel's picture

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130417/16253022748/oh-look-rep-mike-...

sidebar: Some people did not get my religious humor. I thought it was funny. My apologies to the Hindus and Christians. 

Abi Normal's picture

ahhh, some folks have unusually thin skin, I liked the double entendre, not sure why you apologized, but shows you are man up!

ebworthen's picture

"So it seems rather interesting to note that Rogers' wife, Kristi Clemens Rogers, was, until recently, the president and CEO of Aegis LLC a 'security' defense contractor company, whom she helped to secure a $10 billion (with a b) contract with the State Department."

Offer up your children's lives and all your assets to the war machine of the kleptoligarchy or revolt seems to be the choice.

Thanks for the info IridiumRebel.

tony wilson's picture

a british based security firm with the same name had folks in kiev a few weeks ago securing the gold funny that

SteveGennisonBallWasher's picture

Yes Aegis LLC.  go look it up.  It will make your day.

JR's picture

"I do not feel obliged to believe that same God who endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect had intended for us to forgo their use." -- Galileo

The illegitimate, unelected government in Kiev is attempting to solidify its control over the ethnic Russians who live in Ukraine because they are the Ukrainians most likely to keep Ukraine out of the clutches of the European Central Bankers.

So, Tyler, not Rogers, is correct in that the Russian troops are there if civil war breaks out in those Eastern Ukrainian cities; and you can be sure that Putin will not back down from protecting his flank; he’d be a fool to do so.

Abi Normal's picture

Nice quote.  you may be correct, or Putin will go in anyway...do you not think he has agents in there fomenting the trouble?  And, if true, sounds like what happened in Kiev, CIA or whatever, sponsored unrest.

AHHHH the humanity, why do govts want to provoke war and death so much?  I'll never understand, ok power, greed and lust...just leave me to what is left of my life and the govt can fuck off!

Ifigenia's picture

If i was Putin i would contact Vitoria Nulland to do the job. She is an expert in coups, beside using her service could fool every one.

As a jew, i dont think she would have any problem to sell US interests. By the way is the Kiev coup in the best interests of US or Israel? 

holmes's picture

Let's airdrop Rogers and McAsshole into eastern Ukraine with the 1st shipment of weapons.

Abi Normal's picture

...you are forgetting about 521 other azzhats that need to join them, give or take a handful!!!!!

machineh's picture

What do you call 521 KongressKlowns at the bottom of the sea?

A GOOD START!

Ifigenia's picture

no need for any other weapons, just those two assholes are enough to destroy anyone or anything. Dont you see the damages they did to America?

kashey's picture

referendum to be held fir Alaska to go back to Russia
if there're enough votes to hold it :)
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/alaska-back-russia/SFG1ppfN

anonnn's picture

Mike Rogers could be the poster-child of all those who "know" that World War 1 was started as result of assassination of Archduke Ferdinand at Sarajevo.

Europe's royal families  were integrated by hundreds of years of intermarriage that promoted secret treaties and territorial arrangements and understandings. Such are the usual activities of all privileged classes seeking to maintain their status, or "security" .  Ferdinands death setoff the domino-effect of those mostly secret and even ancient arrangements.

NATO is the hair-trigger that can set the world ablaze as, for example, when a 5-foot 135-pound wannabe Napolean is covertly pushed [by a megalomaniac and clever rich-uncle]  to attack an elephant. Or a bear.

 

 

 

Buck Johnson's picture

Your right, Putin is sitting back and smiling.  We have walked our way into a situation that we can't walk out without looking weak and with egg all over our face.  Whoever gave this advice to Obama I don't really blame, because even us who aren't even in the political arena knew this was a stupid thing to do and him being the president had to have had people tell him the same.  You almost want to say that someone set him up to make a horrible mistake and now he is looking like a fool.

 

rubiconsolutions's picture

I'm beginning to wonder if it's physically possible for the US to keep its nose out of other peoples business.

Winston Churchill's picture

I think they are just beginning to realize how big a hornets nest they have poked.

Instead of retreating, they are doubling down.

You can't fix stupid. These fucks are going to get us all killed if they are not

stopped..

Beard of Zeus's picture

I wonder if Russia is accepting foreign volunteers...?

TungstenBars's picture

Yes but you need to speak Russian.

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

Sounds like a... Gas, a Blast.
Will "will work for liquid assets" do the trick?

A toast to gold, vodka and health of the Russian people!

fxrxexexdxoxmx's picture

But Putin can stick his nose anywhere in the world and his fan boyz will applaud him.

Putin is in Ukraine so as to protect his hydrocarbon distribution. Putin is in Syria stopping the competition building hydrocarbon distribution.

Why can Putin do these thing to protect his wealth and security, energy, but when the USA does it is evil?

EatYourCornTakeyourPill's picture

Because there are a bunch of RT fanboys on here who grew up sheltered in the U.S and have no idea what the outside world really is. I've been to East Ukraine, Moscow, Poland. People on here don't know wtf they are talking about, a lot of the bloggers don't either. I hope Ukraine joins the EU and NATO as soon as possible.

FlyingDutchman's picture

I lived through the last decade of the cold war, with the iron curtain practically in my backyard here in Europe.

From first hand experience I can tell you that's frightening and it really doesn't matter who's missiles they are.

For now it looks -as so often in the past- Russia is not looking for war, the west is. Putin's 'popularity' here, is problably because a lot of us have had it with our current leadership.

Smegley Wanxalot's picture

Bingo.  When the current western leadership enacts former soviet policies and only shows a spine when dealing with domestic opposition to those policies, what's really not to respect about Putin?

FlyingDutchman's picture

Eerste time that is see this.

Allthough I'm a Dutchman, I've lived all my live in Flanders.

Thx for the link, I liked it.

EatYourCornTakeyourPill's picture

II disagree with your statement. The way I see it is after the iron curtain came down the majority of countries went running to NATO. They knew what Russian aggression is. Ukraine has a bad history with Russia including mass starvation and murdering of Ukrainians by Russians. Why would Ukraine not want to go to the EU and NATO? Especially now, after the takeover of Crimea by the Russian military? Ukraine is not Russia's pawn. To say Russia is not looking for war, the west is... is kind of ridiculous in my opinion. SInce the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russia has invaded Chechnya twice, south ossetia and abkazhia and now Crimea. I don't see what stops Russia other than Nato from going further West.

FlyingDutchman's picture

I could agree with that, but :

1) They were offered some bribe or just plainly forced into it by economic means e.g.

2) There was also a substantial amount of collaboration with the Nazi's in a lot of these countries, hence the brutal Soviet oppression. (We don't seem to mind working with fascists anyway, not now and not after WW II)

3) I've spoken to people who lived under soviet rule; they never mention it until I bring it up and most of them speak and think balanced about this. (But some of them did experience horrible things)

I would say it was an inhumane system, but let's not make the same mistakes just because we have bigger guns.

rwe2late's picture

EatCorn

Well, if you have been to Poland, I have been to Washington,D.C.,

and a lot of the flag wavers here don't know wtf they are talking about, and have no idea

what the US government really does, or why its foreign policies are the way they are.

I hope Ukrainians do not have to suffer under US/EU/IMF policies, and the world will not have to suffer

further because of expansionist US/NATO militarism.

Abi Normal's picture

rwe2late, BS, who the fuck is militirizing the Crimea and surrounding Ukrain?  Flag wavers are just Patriots, this country USA, can be saved you know.  I agree that this country is now a banana republic, we are not the only bad guys...just look around the world my friend, there are MANY bad guys to choose from!

rwe2late's picture

Abi

First, the English language.

Flag wavers are NOT "just Patriots". The terminology "flag wavers" is used to connote those who are chauvinists and jingoists.

Second, instead of generalizations about "bad guys" everywhere, examine the specifics of this particular case. In this case of Ukraine, the US is clearly in the wrong, from needlessly expanding NATO, to supporting a coup overthrow of an elected government, to making unreasonable demands and threats, and recently implementing counter-productive "sanctions".

Volkodav's picture

It is fact that Crimeans made choice.

It is Crimea's business...so get over it..

Better worry about your country.

"we are not the only bad guys" is clinical denial...

 

EatYourCornTakeyourPill's picture

Crimea's business as in your Army of pediki went in and had a paper pencil "vote" with armed pediki standing over them. Yeah sounds about right. dolbayob konchini.

EatYourCornTakeyourPill's picture

the US and NATO are the only things that stopped the Soviets from taking control of all of Europe after WW2. Russia has always been expansionist historically. I don't see how the U.S is the bad guy here. The Ukrainians were promised that they would join the EU and in the last minute yanukovich backed out and said he made a pact with Russia. That's over a decade of work and a bad history to go with it, of course the Ukrainian people are not interested in going back to Russia. It's a third world country. Poland in the EU has made explosive economic developments, in the late 90s the Polish economy was even worse than Ukraines. Now Poland is head and shoulders over Ukraine. The EU may not be perfect but much better than the Russian Gulag.