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Guest Post: Does The World Need China's Leadership?

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Submitted by Dingding Chen of The Diplomat,

For more than two decades China has abided by former leader Deng Xiaoping’s “keep a low profile” strategy in foreign affairs. But things are changing — China is ready to take on a leadership role in international affairs, and the world will benefit from it.

In a recent speech on the country’s regional diplomacy, China’s President Xi Jinping emphasized “being more active,” “adjusting to new times,” providing “more leadership,” and “contributing to the world.” The Minister of Foreign Affairs, Wang Yi, also said recently that China is ready to take on more international responsibilities, ranging from foreign aid, peacekeeping, nuclear non-proliferation, and regional security mechanisms.

This is already happening in several areas. China’s Premier Li Keqiang recently spoke of building a new security framework in East Asia, and the country’s senior leaders are making efforts to manage nuclear dilemmas in Iran and North Korea. The country is working with other BRICS countries to establish their own development bank that could rival the World Bank and the IMF. China has also shaped the development of the responsibility to protect norm in international security and human rights, and continues to reform it along with other developing countries.

As these developments have gradually changed the face of international relations, the U.S. has been hampered by problems ranging from its fiscal deficit and domestic political stagnation to international withdrawal, sending a discouraging signal to the world. Gone are the days when the U.S. could singlehandedly provide a stable order for the international community. Now more than ever, the U.S. needs help from other countries to provide global leadership. But Europe has been plagued by its own debt crisis and Japan is struggling to come back from two decades of economic stagnation. China, on the other hand, has recovered quickly from the 2008 global financial crisis and now is the second largest economy in the world.

Not all scholars would agree that China is ready for a leadership role, and several misconceptions should be addressed.

First, leadership is not hegemony. Chinese leadership in global affairs will not mean regional or global domination. China should not impose its own will on other states, and it will not do so. It knows the perils of this approach very well from its own painful experiences since 1840 at the hands of the West and Japan. Moreover, China has sided with the developing countries over many issues for a long time. Indeed, part of China’s identity is still as a developing country, and this ensures that China will continue to restrain itself from bullying other developing or smaller countries.

 

Second, China cannot lead in all issue areas. Its power and resources are still limited and will remain so for a long time. Yet the country can start taking on more leadership in areas such as poverty reduction, environmental protection, community building in East Asia, foreign aid to developing countries, and international human rights protection.

 

Third, some worry that China’s pursuit of leadership will generate conflict. This would only happen if the U.S. chose to contain or undermine China’s efforts. More Chinese leadership will lead to more regional and global public goods, a more stable order in Asia, and a more confident and secure China. That, in turn, will help to keep rising domestic nationalism at bay.

 

Fourth, some within China worry that taking on too much international responsibilities will weaken China’s own social and economic development. This worry is unwarranted. With power comes greater responsibility. China’s power has increased significantly over the last decades and China has been the biggest beneficiary of globalization and economic openness; now is the right time for China to make some contributions to the international community.

To play an effective leadership role in global affairs, China must also adopt meaningful economic, political, and social reforms at home. Just like the U.S., China’s global leadership must come from internal accomplishments. This means that the Chinese government should rebuild its domestic legitimacy through redefining state-society relations and shifting emphasis from GDP growth to morality. The good news is that the current Chinese leadership, led by President Xi Jinping, is keenly aware of this problem and is determined to tackle legitimacy issues through more major reforms.

All this talk about China’s leadership might make some countries uneasy. But they need not worry. The international community must acknowledge that today’s fast-rising China has earned the right to play an important role in shaping a new international order. A more stable and prosperous world will need China to be more active and assertive in global affairs.

 

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Mon, 03/24/2014 - 22:49 | 4588673 Jstanley011
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"...the Chinese government should rebuild its domestic legitimacy through redefining state-society relations and shifting emphasis from GDP growth to morality..."

Duck soup. Easy peasy. Nothin' to it. "Look Ma', no hands!" A no-brainer. I'm sure they'll hop right to it.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 22:58 | 4588692 y3maxx
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...Nearly immediate American/European response w/ various World War threats only hours after Russia/China agree to Trade w/ Yuan as currency reserve. America must defend the dollar currency reserve, or go down in flames.
...Look for a major False Flag event...

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:00 | 4588702 The Dunce
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The answer is no.  We do not need Chinese leadership.  In fact, we should run from Chinese leadership.  You silly bitches.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:10 | 4588732 prains
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you misspelled "kitty" in your avatar

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 01:58 | 4589015 Boris Alatovkrap
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What is say exhausting husband of China wife who is buy too many footwear?

Yu bai tu mei ni xiu, wi deng xiao ping!

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 04:19 | 4589126 merizobeach
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Our daily t-bagging by The Diplomat...  What a bunch of fucking horseshit.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 04:39 | 4589138 jbvtme
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my apologies for this potentially intelligent reply. in the early 1400's china set out to colonize the world. they progressed in ships much larger than the europeans and sailed west to the tip of africa. along the way they traded and transported back to china's ruling courts chiefs of various cultures  (always returning them unharmed). by the late 1400's this program was terminated out of fear and envy by the ruling class (who were wary of the emerging power of the merchant class) and the ships were dismantled. of note here is that the chinese did not destroy and savage these cultures as the europeans did. china today looks like another ballgame. anyway (regardless of race, ethnicity or planet of origin), the people who tell me what to do should be more intelligent, compassionate and good looking. so far all have disappointed.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 04:51 | 4589151 merizobeach
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Did you move this comment to put it higher in the thread, or to respond to me in particular?  I'm familiar with the history you describe; it is indeed a great contrast from the sociopaths in control of China these days.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:01 | 4589988 whotookmyalias
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You forgot the part about how the ruling class bankrupted the nation and when they burned the ships they burned most of their history records. Chinese may have been decent explorers but they have proven throughout history their leadership abilities are hindered by their greed, corruption and lust for absolute control.

 

Sorry, no the world does not need any guidance from the Chinese. If you are still in denial read up on how they made Shanghai ready for the world expo.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 05:05 | 4589156 UselessEater
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LOL, but seriously good looking or not, it is getting hard to find people who do not want to be told what to do, many perceive they can give the proverbial finger and are living in a culture of their own making as free 'consumer units' in a 'democracy'.

Few grasp recent history let alone the history of the last few hundred years and, whilst I am not as smart as some - I do recognise that China has done private business with many dictators in Africa (yep those same ones with a vote in the UN) and they are in no way sweeter masters, just more discrete and pragmatic. Their economic prowess in resource deals generally create the same result of national socio-economic havoc in African nations as the Anglo-American alliance.

Expect more disappointment. I am.

 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 07:07 | 4589258 SilverDOG
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jbvtme,

 

China did not stop exploration at the southern tip of Africa.

Exploration continued and included N. America.

Europe's conquest of trade routes and gold sources was only capable due to China's initiative.

Being 1. Knowledge thereof planted in Europe by China's arrival; well recorded.

2. China's delivery of Viruses to Native Americans.

Europe's only success was arriving in N. America and meeting a decimated population. 

Very easy to conquer the remaining 10%.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 07:19 | 4589273 BigJim
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Possibly the dumbest article I've seen here yet. Are you having a larf, Tylers?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:04 | 4589997 whotookmyalias
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+100

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:46 | 4588805 Anusocracy
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Another benefit of a no government world

- shit like The Diplomat wouldn't exist.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:57 | 4588832 Jim in MN
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As if 'Dingding Chen' is even a real name.  I mean, just look at it!  Clearly Photoshopped.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 00:33 | 4588903 whotookmyalias
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China's leadership.  Hmm, let me give that some deep thought...NO!  Anyone on here who seriously thinks the world needs China's leadership needs to go ask their parents to block ZH from their computer.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 02:01 | 4589018 Boris Alatovkrap
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When China is control most manufacturing, is hold most gold, is also able to collapse Petro Dollar, then they are lead:

Wi li du, yu fa lo!

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 03:02 | 4589072 steveo77
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Fuck you

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 04:39 | 4589125 jbvtme
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moved

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 07:01 | 4589250 negative rates
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He don't belong to the FU cult.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 06:46 | 4589232 StychoKiller
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So long as our so-called leaders only lead us around the sun, then there is truly no progress.  The surface of a planet is NOT the correct place for an expanding techological civilization.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 06:59 | 4589246 negative rates
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Red eyes at morning, sailor take warning!*

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:13 | 4588737 Tabarnaque
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We should all wish for a multi-polar world. The worst would be a total world domination by the Anglo-American Banking Cartel.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 00:45 | 4588920 Quus Ant
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As long as I'm wishing could I wish for the dissolution of all forms of control?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:13 | 4588736 zorba THE GREEK
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All I want from the Chinese is a good back massage and a happy ending.

A general Tsu chicken and a shrimp role is okay too.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 01:11 | 4588942 Quus Ant
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All she wants from you is for you to shave your back and dick, mr. the greek.

make her job a little easier.

Then maybe she'll wash her hands before making you lunch.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:18 | 4588749 MedTechEntrepreneur
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Leadership role? From people who eat dogs and insects and shit? No.

We need to have a revolution here and oust the criminal government cartel that currently runs the West. Turn it over to bug eaters...pftftftftttt

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:25 | 4588763 UselessEater
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Maurice says yes to the bug eaters they're leaders in everything...LOL

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/05/03/china-among-the-most-prog...

 

 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:02 | 4589993 Exponere Mendaces
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China is going to eat our lunch, then make us clean up afterward, complaining about the fat lazy americans and their shitty work ethic, and they'd be right.

As a civillization, the Chinese trump a lot of them in longevity, and they're going to be around for thousands of years in the future. The fact that American Entitlement thinks they're going to just go away or have a bad year and slink into the mists of the past is ridiculous.

Do they have credit/debt problems? Sure, but they'll actually let things FAIL, which is something the USA seems to have trouble doing. So, they'll get their contraction and GDP will take a hit, but they'll be bouncing back faster than the USA will.

China has options. The USA only has a long road down the path of becoming a country reduced to exporting porn, shitty movies and occasionally the entertaining game. "Snowcrash" was right, perhaps except about the pizza.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 22:49 | 4588674 LetThemEatRand
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Fuck the EU?  Or just Fuck the Diplomat.   Neocon trash.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 22:54 | 4588688 socalbeach
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One of the best pieces I've read from "The Diplomat".  2 stars.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:14 | 4588735 YHC-FTSE
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The usual author of this piece of shit, zippity zionist zachary zeck is taking the piss I think.  Look at the name of the author above. This is straight out of Tokyo Rose's handbook on creating fear , hate and division among the enemy.  

Hey Zach, you fuck. You've been rumbled. Do you get paid in Yen, Dollars or Shekels?  

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:25 | 4588760 The_Prisoner
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YHC, spot on.
It is high time good to start calling the Zionists on their game.
Every day more people are waking up to the game played by those blood-sucking-death-worshiping pigs.

Case in point, look at this twofer:

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/how_cold_war-hungry_neocons_stage_ma...

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 02:21 | 4589042 Rogue Trooper
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+88 all if you... what a diplomatic twat.

Shit Tylers, is this satire?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 22:49 | 4588676 macholatte
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China = Predator

Bitchez!

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:05 | 4588712 john39
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Yes, thank goodness that the ussa will protect freedom and peace throughout the world. Right?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 22:52 | 4588682 A Lunatic
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This is like debating who should be the leader of the Titanic as it is sinking......

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:08 | 4588725 williambanzai7
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Actually, more like arguing over what song the band should be playing.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:25 | 4588758 LetThemEatRand
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Can't help myself because of my affinity for Max Keiser.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hamKl-su8PE&feature=kp

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:46 | 4588808 Jim in MN
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Or, whose turn it is to clean the toilet/head/loo.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 07:02 | 4589253 negative rates
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The orchistra silly.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 22:55 | 4588685 q99x2
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Holy crimea and I thought US propaganda was bad. Dude you give me a printing press, accept my currency for goods and services and I'll become a global force of world stability.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:07 | 4588717 maskone909
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How the chinese have reached the level of population despite their driving abilities is beyond me.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:10 | 4588729 john39
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Rode bikes until recently.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:28 | 4588765 Yen Cross
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  Rivers full of dead pig carcases, cities encased in smog, and peasants shitting on the side of the road.. No thanks, I'll pass.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:30 | 4588768 sangell
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China is MIA on most global issues despite being a permanent member of the UNSC. France and the UK have more robust foreign policies than China. Of course they have the legacy of their empires, particularly in Africa to deal with and China is relatively new to having the resources to take a more active role in managing global affairs and where it does take an interest it often confuses 'foreign policy' with commercial advantage.

One thing it could do to show the world it wants to be a constructive player is divest itself of two of the world's worst actors who cling to it for political and economic support. Kim Jon Un and Vladimir Putin. President Xi jinping has to know its ties to North Korea totally discredit it as the world has no place for heriditary dictatorships of this ilk. Putin's Russia too has shown itself to be far too reckless with nuclear weaponry and its proliferation for the world's good. President Xi will meet with Putin in May. I hope he keeps his eyes open for the telltale signs of insanity that Angela Merkel detected in this megalomaniac. Too bad he will have to speak to Putin through interpreters but he should instruct his interpreters to be candid in their assessments of Putin and, if he can, have a Chinese psychiatrist present during their meeting.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:41 | 4588793 post turtle saver
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lol... if this doesn't unleash the downvote brigade I don't know what will... remember, they gave you the neg because they know you're right

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:45 | 4588801 john39
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forgot your sarc tag?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 00:38 | 4588915 whotookmyalias
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I once had a fortune cookie that read "Anyone who has failed to read Chinese History is doomed to repeat it."

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:54 | 4588823 Tulpa
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It is intriguing that the same people who rip the NSA for spying turn around and praise the PRC, who've built a machinery of oppression the NSA couldn't hope to match if they tried.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 09:25 | 4589617 detached.amusement
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lol does that mean you think they are not trying?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:35 | 4588780 Peter Pan
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The only leaders the world needs is those that lead by example rather than by force or the size of their check book.

Then again wiser men than us foresaw the difficulty of that quite some time ago.

"The consolidation of the States into one vast empire, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of ruin which has overwhelmed all that preceded it."
~General Robert E. Lee

 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 09:00 | 4589544 yrbmegr
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"And I get to enslave other humans."  -General Robert E. Lee

Since we're talking about leading by example.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:44 | 4588800 Jim in MN
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According to Mike Spence in 'The Next Convergence', the world needs the entire G20 to step up and act like adults.  Law-abiding, rational adults.  If this can happen (and the little issue of 'sustainability' solved on the side), we might have a chance to get the next billion middle class souls integrated into a global, trade-oriented economy.

But, look at the psychopaths.  The corruption.  The technology of evil and tyranny.  I feel certain that the most well-meaning Chinese elites are both confused and terrified that they might be the most adult in the room after all.  I think they were counting on a somewhat rational global system to play off of, and instead they have elite vermin laying waste to everyone's dreams. 

The Chinese are very much not prepared to grow up alone in this wasteland, let alone become the world's nanny as well.

Their only hope is ours as well: one of those periodic reinvigorations of the American Republic from within.

I am quite certain that there are only three paths from here: a new American party that storms the barricades via the ballot (I give that maybe 15% odds), a serious revolution and at least partial collapse (5%), or a fairly rapid descent into true police state fascism with the economic devastation that entails (80% sadly). 

None of it has anything to do with China, but only the first will help them. 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 05:21 | 4589165 newworldorder
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Whether your percentages are correct or not is not the point. You have however outlined the three most likely scenarios for the American Republic in the nest generation. Given our changing demographics and our political polarization however, a 4th dynamic may emerge if the reality of a permanent and perpetual "Blue Team" power capture emerges. That will open the door to potential disintegration of the Republic. I have always maintained that we must find ways to live together as Americans, or we will find ways to live apart.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:47 | 4588810 Tulpa
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"This means that the Chinese government should rebuild its domestic legitimacy through redefining state-society relations and shifting emphasis from GDP growth to morality. The good news is that the current Chinese leadership, led by President Xi Jinping, is keenly aware of this problem and is determined to tackle legitimacy issues through more major reforms."

 

Here's some easy reforms to help with the legitimacy problem:  free elections, freedom of religion, freedom of speech.  Anything short of that is window dressing.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:53 | 4588822 Atomizer
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No, china is not considered a world leader. We are allies to develop global expansion. Just give us the names of the fuckers who intend on harming the growth cycle.

 

Let’s make a deal. You hand over the names and we’ll round them up. We don’t care what you do with them after we tossed them your way. Stay in touch..

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:54 | 4588825 Cabreado
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Propaganda...

it's everywhere.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 00:36 | 4588911 Atomizer
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Propaganda lurks at the Whitehouse level. The fear of fucked–up international policies and financial pains grow by the day. Socially engineered events will gradually see blowback. Instinctually crashing a financial system to benefit others will be found out. I digress, let your peers figure out what to do with them.  

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 00:03 | 4588841 honestann
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The term "global affairs" means "authoritarianism".

Think about it.

Either every interaction is a voluntary one, in which case "global affairs" has no meaning other than "the aggregate of all independent voluntary interactions"... OR... "global affairs" means "some predators screwing others via involuntary interactions".

Everyone who even thinks in terms like "global affairs" is authoritarian.

Consider the term "leader".  Think about it.  I refuse to following anyone.  How about you?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 02:58 | 4589068 UselessEater
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The "think global, act local" campaign has worked on so many levels, conditioning our minds in the western world and softening us upto the globalisation concept. Combined with mantra's of free trade, global terrorism etc our nations like Aust and the USA submitting us to the arbitrary rule of external powers operating via a centralised policy, planning and control - that is communism and that is not a pleasant regime to be subjected to.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/5050407/US-backing-for-worl...

US Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner shocked global markets by revealing that Washington is "quite open" to Chinese proposals for the gradual development of a global reserve currency run by the International Monetary Fund.
Tue, 03/25/2014 - 06:36 | 4589223 Global Observer
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The US Senate just approved the IMF reform, tagged to the Ukraine loan guarantee bill. Since the US was the lone hold out, this makes the IMF reform complete. Wonder if the reform includes other currencies in the SDR basket than the current ones. If it was only a matter of insgnificant change in the US voting power, not sure why the US had to hold out for so long and then pass it without bringing much attention to it.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 00:13 | 4588867 Dr. Bonzo
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China has generated spectacular wealth for its ruling class by leveraging their printing presses and peasant labor against the rest of the world. How very 14th century. They undersell their currency so their peasants stay poor and cheap and keep the printing presses rolling. It's so fucking medieval it's not even funny.

So, the question at hand... do we want these medievalist bastards with the the worldview of a Genghis Khan to run herd over the rest of us? We're spoiling to lynch our own aristocracy. Get a clue.

As to that much vaunted "reform" in China.

Five words.

L.M.F.A.O.

China had a chance to demonstrate that their strategic objective was to eventually liberalize their economy, their social norms and values and even their political system, but they stuffed that up.

Hong Kong is a small city of 7 million. China had every opportunity to take Hong Kong and experiment with all the trappings of the modern world. Freedom of Expression. Rule of Law. Political Franchise. Property Ownership.

Instead, China has accelerated the program to turn Hong Kong into Just Another Mainland Shithole.

I'm not taking my marching orders from medievalists. Rot in Hell.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 08:18 | 4589385 Global Observer
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China isn't interested in ordering anyone who doesn't live in China. However, China doesn't take orders from any outsider either. It is exactly in the latter department that China will lead the world. Having demonstrated that China can talk the language of business with the outside world without needing a military to back up the business deals, China is uniquely positioned to lead the developing world in solving the problems of lack of infrastrcture and poverty.

China doesn't need to demonstrate anything to the murdering plundering filth of the West. Once the global financial system is reset and the West loses the monetary hegemony which allowed them to suck resources from the rest of the world just for producing currency, the ones rotting in hell will be those living in the West, not the Chinese. As those who believe in producing things that others value, China will continue to flourish for long into the future. It is those values that China will lead the world in and the world will be a better place for it. The West will be excluded from that better world, but then it is their loss.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:06 | 4590013 post turtle saver
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China is nothing without the West... hell, _any_ emerging Asian power is nothing without the West... China in particular, however, is the biggest "copy cat" culture going...

we'll have a global financial system reset, but it's all about timing... everyone thinks China will be the last man standing but the way things have been set up, they're more likely to be the last one holding the bag...

"Chinese values"... don't make me laugh

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 00:22 | 4588885 deeply indebted
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If the World needs it or not, it's going to get it. The entire Western World is morally bankrupt, impotent, week, and financially finished.

Besides, hasn't the West already given up their gold to the East?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 00:41 | 4588917 Kirk2NCC1701
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Dear China,

Leadership is as leadership does.

Feel free to show leadership, but remember that the Ruled give the Rulers the Score. We can all settle for fake scores now, but the real score always comes in.

Hope you can do a better job than the current NWO Imperialists, but we'll see.

-Kirk out.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 00:52 | 4588934 roadlust
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"Chinese leadership???"  To make the world a better place for fascism and totalitarian govenments?  Yeah, we need "leaders" like that.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 02:53 | 4589063 steveo77
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The misguided socialist is far better than the determined fascist.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 05:35 | 4589070 UselessEater
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I suspect they lead us down the same path eventually.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 07:03 | 4589256 negative rates
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Another cultist.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 09:29 | 4589641 detached.amusement
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that's like saying a shit sandwich is better than a mug of diarrhea

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 01:23 | 4588971 nc551
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A leader is someone you follow of your own volition.  In my case it could only be someone with a great plan that did not involve initiating violence.  I would welcome a leader.  Ron Paul comes to mind.  A ruler is the guy in the back with a gun in your ribs.  I don't think anyone is talking about my idea of a leader.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 01:34 | 4588983 bankonzhongguo
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I will pay attention to China's adventures after it "solves" the North Korean problem.

It would be in their interest to eject American forces from Korea so they can set their sights on Japan.

Maybe in a hundred years.

China always looks inward.

And then destroys itself.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 01:48 | 4589002 GoldenDonuts
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Um no.  Possibly the only thing worse than the psycho from the states running things right now would be the psycos from anywere else running things.  And since 90% of the people in power everywhere are psychopaths then the devil you know is better than two in the bush.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 01:56 | 4589013 kellycriterion
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I think it's time for the people who make those radio PSA announcements to rule.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 02:09 | 4589031 Joenobody12
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Ask the people in Hong Kong how they feel about China. Ask them how much the freedom of the press has shrinked this past one year. Ask them how many journalist who criticized China get beaten up and attacked with butchers knives by triads ( Mafia ). 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 06:06 | 4589191 Dr. Bonzo
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That's not the half of it. Mainland business interests have bought up majority shares in local publications or outright bought out publishing houses. Network applications for independent stations have been rejected and independent broadcasters shut down. Rare voices with contrary opinions in the local media are being shown the door and one by one being replaced with commie toady ballsuckers.

With the influx of mainland tourist to the tune of tens of thousands every day, the commies have launched political persecution of the Falun Gong in Hong Kong, a la Cultural Revolution. I shit you not... gangs of demented thugs stalk these people around the city and tear up their banners and stomp all over them. Fisticuffs, beatings, fucking brownshirt tactics. Right here in Hong Kong. Press doesn't report it, government turns a blind eye. The cops are reportedly being infiltrated by commie stoogies or also being bought off, they literally stand by and do not lift a finger. We had a complete "scandal" blow up over a school teacher who watched one of these brown shirt displays and went off on the cops, only to have the entire commie press machine in Hong Kong turn on her. Un-fucking-believable. That's when I realized how far gone this place was.

I don't recognize this fucking city anymore but the realization I've started to have over the last few weeks is... the word on just how fast and how radical the mainland is transforming the Hong Kong body politic is just not getting out. That's gotta come to an end.

The Chinese people have a long and proud history. You can see evidence of that tradition everywhere the Chinese people live freely. The ONE place the Chinese people do NOT live freely, Mainland China... is ruled by a gang of viscious fucking thugs hellbent on exterminating all traces of their own past and heritage to replace it with an Orwellian vision of The Party, Eternal.

About time word on the street about Hong Kong reached a wider audience, cause its obvious the hedge fund babies don't give a flying fuck as long as they're making bank.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 06:20 | 4589206 Apostate2
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Just after the Sino-British Joint Declaration the HK Police told me they were in close contact with their PRC counterparts. Not happy about that but they had to follow the current line of 'cooperation'. It's a cross-border nightmare or mare's nest. But I still have faith in the HK people to resist this mainlandization. I share your deep concerns. If like you, one reads the press prior to the Handover it was freer and more critical. Now everything in that sphere is compromised.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 02:52 | 4589061 steveo77
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this article has a base assumption that a world leader is necessary.   what gives with that?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 03:27 | 4589090 Atomizer
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It's a think tank meal. Pat yourself on the back stevo77. You’re the only one to figure it out. Now you understand why I shout back at these fuckers. NSA knows I love my country, but we have a dirty Chicago negro in the Whitehouse. Not even the US media can continue spinning dishes in the air

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 07:04 | 4589257 negative rates
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Yea man, who made that up? Whos idea was that??

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 03:24 | 4589085 chaartist
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The world does not need any leadership only power hungry people need to see world like this which then determines the divided state of affairs. Trying to always compete against each other always ends up in war during time. This sick west based competitivness is at the core of current market and geopolical situations. All nations are bancrupt if the chain reaction is ignited and all macro reasons are here years, no new piece of data is needed. Wars only makes things faster in a way that some people could not shut up and then it is too late to stop the chain reaction.

 

I choose to meditate out of it :}

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 03:53 | 4589113 Leraconteur
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Thw world is going to be very unhappy when China takes a leadership role, because The Chinese are no more than 3 year old children seeking revenge for 2,000 years of playground teasing.

It's payback time, to everyone, everywhere, who ever slighted them no matter how small.

 

To play an effective leadership role in global affairs, China must also adopt meaningful economic, political, and social reforms at home. 

 

I don't see why - everyone else has become intolerant, censorious, fascists when they engaged with China. It seems China already has an effective leadership role. This doesn't bode well for the other 83% of humanity.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 04:30 | 4589133 Atomizer
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A party bag for everyone |2008

 

Don’t worry, when they have gone, the financial system will not be based on a Ponzi system.

FYI

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 05:41 | 4589179 RadioactiveRant
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I don't see why - everyone else has become intolerant, censorious, fascists when they engaged with China. It seems China already has an effective leadership role. This doesn't bode well for the other 83% of humanity.

The only people that have become "intolerant, censorious, fascists" are the parasites that lead us. They know they've fucked up, and the world of your disposable income equalling your credit card limit being unsustainable. They know its game over sooner or later but they like their salary, pension, expenses, bribes from the 1%ers and feeling important. Its not Chinas influence, its the fear that the charade will come to an end and wanting to delay that for as long as possible.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 05:43 | 4589180 Leraconteur
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The only people that have become "intolerant, censorious, fascists" are the parasites that lead us

 

Wrong. Talk to some recent US/CA/EU/AU university graduates to get insight into the Totalitarian Mind. These kids are one bad away from donning brownshirts.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 04:27 | 4589130 merizobeach
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The only reason that China isn't yet enemy-of-humanity #1 is because they don't yet have the reach to be so.

"Do you hear that, Mr. Anderson?  That is the sound of inevitability."

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 04:36 | 4589136 UselessEater
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"the Chinese government makes no apology that they will support literally any government anywhere as long as it supports their economic interests."

bodes well for the future you describe merizobeach....

 

http://ponziworld.blogspot.com.au/2014/03/no-one-trusts-us-government.ht...

 

 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 04:40 | 4589140 Rogue Economist
Tue, 03/25/2014 - 04:41 | 4589141 mumbo_jumbo
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"China, on the other hand, has recovered quickly from the 2008 global financial crisis and now is the second largest economy in the world"

 

and it only cost them 25 trillion

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 04:56 | 4589153 thestarl
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Does the World need China's Leadership: Get Fucked.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 07:32 | 4589286 kinnon
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Did the world become a better world by the US leadership?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 09:14 | 4589578 yrbmegr
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Well, China, for one, went from dirt poor to filthy rich under US leadership.  So, there's that.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 05:41 | 4589177 RadioactiveRant
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China hasn't had an original idea since the Qin Dynasty. Everything they do is a second rate emulation of the West; from their shitty toasters to their debt based model of capitalist economic growth.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 06:12 | 4589199 Apostate2
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Qin Shih Huangdi  the emperor who burned the books and buried the scholars? His reign was to last 10K years. Ooops. Only 21 years where he devasted mountains because they offended him and had to change his place of residence daily because he was a paranoid fuck.

You are either ignorant or a moron. he also buried his clay warriors by slave labour to glorify himself in the afterlife. What a POS and so are you.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 06:57 | 4589243 Apostate2
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I should add that Mao ZeDong also likened himself to Qin Shih Huandi.  You are a communist apologist or someone who is ignorant of past or present history.  

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 05:58 | 4589189 Apostate2
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This propaganda or wishful thinking at its worst.

Edior of the Global Times Don’t compare Crimea to Hong kong, Taiwan, or Tibet, okay? The US and UK wouldn’t dare make that comparison, nor would the DPP, so why are we Mainland Chinese so quick to overanalyze?  If we let Taiwan have a referendum, what do you think would happen? Let the Anti-scession Law serve its purpose! China is never in the wrong, and from now on our need for power is most important. In this world, to a great degree, truth follows power.'

 

Daughter of 'Butcher of Tiananmen Square' brokered secret deal for insurance giant

 

 

Central Proganda Department: (1) The media must immediately cool down coverage of the Pingdu homicide case. Discontinue follow-up reporting. (2) Regarding Taiwanese students protesting the trade agreement, you may focus on coverage of conflict and clearing out the protesters, but you must take care with your wording. (March 24 2014)

More from the Ministry of Truth:

 

  1. Do not report hearsay concerning high-level cadres, such as the news on March 2 about Zhou Yongkang;
  2. Keep a reliable handle on the developments in Ukraine;
  3. Do not report or carry stories about disbanding

I could go on but the corruption and insider dealing does not bode well for another 'leader' on the world stage.

 

 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 06:32 | 4589221 vyeung
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The question should be do we need the so called leadership of the US? Nope, because they are facist neo nazi's pretending to be a free society which they are not right now. The clowns in DC are not looking out for their own peoples interests let alone the world. Diplomat keeps coming out with these useless and time wasting articles.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 06:56 | 4589240 smacker
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For China to lead the world or even to just play a major role in world affairs will require a sharing of current geo-power-politics. And a coming to terms in Western capitals that there are other ways of doing things and other points of view to consider.

But history tells us that the global ship of state cannot be steered by more than one driver at a time. There is always one driver -- either because they are power-crazed megalomaniacs or have overgrown egos or are simply beneficiaries of one system over another -- who wishes to take ultimate control and steer the ship in his preferred direction.

This is what made the French idea of creating a multi-polar world (US + EU) to prevent a uni-polar world (only the US), to replace the two Cold War adversaries a complete failure. The Cold War adversary left standing (US) will have none of it and finds it virtually impossible to operate in any shared power arrangement.

And everything we see happening today supports that view: the eastwards expansion of NATO, the attempts to contain/ring-fence Russia and China to pick them off one at a time etc. All are designed to prevent a shared power between multiple players in favour of a uni-polar world with its HQ in Washington.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 09:16 | 4589585 yrbmegr
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There is no such thing as a "global ship of state".

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 09:27 | 4589626 smacker
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Tell that to Washington, London, Brussels, Paris and Berlin(!!)

 

WE may not like there to be, but the political classes are working towards it.

Global socialism is coming to a country near you anytime soon. Of course it won't be called that.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 07:00 | 4589247 no1wonder
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Asia will not 'isolate' Russia

By Pepe Escobar   (25 Mar 2014)

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 08:17 | 4589380 Fred123
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Pepe sounds like Che on drugs.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 08:40 | 4589461 the tower
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The era of nation states is over. China came late to the party, too late.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 08:48 | 4589495 mabuhay1
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This article seems to be written by one of three things, a Chinese Government Shill, a Sinophile, or someone who knows nothing about the country.  China today is one of the most corrupt, immoral, and just plain zenophobic countries on the face of the Earth.  We Do Not need Chinese leadership in ANYTHING. 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 08:58 | 4589537 yrbmegr
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Under China's leadership, perhaps the US should claim all of the Gulf of Mexico, Carribean Sea, Windward and Leeward Islands, and Cuba as it's territory.  Oh, and the entire Pacific Ocean out to Guam.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 09:07 | 4589556 yrbmegr
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"The international community must acknowledge that today’s fast-rising China has earned the right to play an important role in shaping a new international order."  So, this is China not seeking to impose it's will on other states?  By asserting that those other states must acknowledge China?  By insisting on sovereignty right up to the coastline of those other states?  This is the kind of leadership China thinks the world needs?  Mr. Chen, please deliver this message from the world to Mr. Li.  We do not recognize Chinese leadership.  We do not want the kind of leadership China is offering.  We do not have to acknowledge China in any way.  China is not owed hegemony.  The South China Sea does not belong to China.  The East China Sea does not belong to China.  A great many people would say Tibet does not belong to China.  No, thank you.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 10:01 | 4589757 Global Observer
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Yes, China is demanding. But of whom? The self-proclaimed "international community" i.e. the West, the guys who built up their position in the world through murder and plunder. There is nothing wrong with announcing to murderers and plunderers that there is a new sheriff in town. Nor are character certificates and competence certificates required for the sheriff from murderers and plunderers.

The West is finished. Get used to it.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:16 | 4590064 Ariadne
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Fuck China

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