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Malaysia Airlines Says "Beyond Any Reasonable Doubt" Plane Crashed Into Indian Ocean, None Survived

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The latest in the 2+ week search for the missing Boeing 777 MH370 plane is just out, via SkyNews:



We assume this means that the search for the missing plane is now over, even though there is so far no evidence to substantiate the lack of "any reasonable doubt" behind the Malaysia Airlines claim.

More from the FT:

Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 crashed into the southern Indian Ocean, Najib Razak, Malaysia’s prime minister, announced at 10pm local time on Monday evening.


The news comes sixteen days after the Boeing 777 passenger jet vanished without trace in the early hours of March 8 after taking off from Kuala Lumpur on a routine red-eye flight to Beijing.


For the past two weeks, more than two dozen countries have been helping Malaysia look for the jet, in the most intensive search for a missing aeroplane in history.


Australian and Chinese aircraft on Monday spotted several objects floating in the southern Indian Ocean where international teams are searching for the missing airliner.


Mr Najib said that based on new analysis from Inmarsat, the British satellite company, and UK investigators, the Malaysia Airlines flight had flown to a part of the Indian Ocean where there are no places to land.

And now we look forward to a comparable "never before used" analysis that refutes the "beyonad a reasonable doubt" conclusion offered by Malaysian Airlines.


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Mon, 03/24/2014 - 09:57 | 4585205 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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Someone knows where this plane be.

Along w/ death and taxes ...

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:08 | 4585255 Event Horizon
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Distraction or ???

Lt. Gen. Mcinerney theory Flight 370 hijacked to Pakistan for use as a weapon

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:21 | 4585311 Canadian Dirtlump
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The fact that there were mainstream reports of Israel hysterically talking about raising their alert system to defcon googolplex as a result of this plane going missing ( it was an existential threat ) was about all I could stomach of that theory but in this day and age anything is possible.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:30 | 4585346 zionhead
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Multinational black opp according to Veterans Today
Malaysia convicts Israel of genocide dec 2012

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:41 | 4585379 creativity19
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I don't give a flying F about this broked*ck plane anymore!




Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:57 | 4585439 PR Guy
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Chinese planes a spotting. Chinese sats a spotting. I suspect we won't know the truth - ever.


What if the Chinese accidentally (or deliberately) shot it down in the China seas, picked up the biggest parts and hoiked them over to the southern Indian ocean by transporter plane or ship (to be 'found' there - it would explain the time delay) and scooped up all the remaining floating wreckage and bodies etc. ?? some others would know about it but they can easily be bribed to shut up.






Mon, 03/24/2014 - 11:23 | 4585570 MagicHandPuppet
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Someone clearly didn't interrogate Mrs. Peacock.  She obviously did it with a candlestick in the conservatory!

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 12:06 | 4585752 0b1knob
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Mr. Battery in the cargo hold with lithium.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 12:19 | 4585838 johnQpublic
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dont modern phones have GPS?

werent some of the phones live for days?

and where did their gps' put them during those days?

dont the police use this type of information to find 'last known location'?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 13:02 | 4586003 SamAdams
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ASSUME WITHOUT DOUBT - The Government....

I assume the Malaysian President sucks Zionist cock.  So it must be true.  (actually could be true based on Aangirfan's reporting)....

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 12:42 | 4585908 Thought Processor
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With all the MSM disinfo surrounding this event, it is practically screaming intelligence op.  

Oh and anyone find it odd that the Malaysian authorities didn't notify anyone of the disapearing plane until after 7:00am (at which time it could have landed in Diego Garcia and been put in a hanger)?

Me neither.


Plus the fact that Diego Garcia has over the horizon radar tracking and is also a major satallite relay point.  They know where this thing was / is.

We are also hearing reports that Diego Garcia had closed their main runway to all traffic at around the time of the flight disapearance.  And it remained closed to all traffic for some time.


Somthin don't smell right.


Good link for those who would like to read more into the strangeness of MH370:

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 13:43 | 4586175 sgt_doom
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Given the recent news conference by the Prime Minister of Malaysia, and on the assumption that what he said was accurate (big assumption, that), then all the aviation data and satellite data presented to us, indicating a northern route taken by MH 370, was wrong, and we must therefore arrive at the conclusion that everybody involved was highly unqualified and/or something really strange is going on?

Now, if that information was purposely wrong, or misleading, and the 777 didn't make a turn either to the north or south, and continued on the flight path it was heading, then the airliner would have arrived exactly at Diego Garcia.

One must infer either at this point it really is where they claim it to be, or else it is hangared on Diego Garcia. (Reports indicate that at the predicted time MH370 would have arrived on the rock, the airspace was closed for several hours before and after, but since notamns (Notice To Airmen) aren't routinely transmitted from Diego, we have no way of verifying this?)

It is highly unlikely that all the information conveyed was wrong, unless there was some purpose to insuring it was incorrect.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:49 | 4586557 New World Chaos
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Here is an interesting thread with technical discussions that are consistent with conspiracy theories about TPTB disappearing the plane to Diego Garcia.  Hat tip to Element, and also Cacete de Ouro.  Start reading at Cacete de Ouro's first post here:

Main points:

-America has microphones in the area to listen for explosions, subs, etc.  Any kind of crash would have been heard.  Maybe the government doesn't want to reveal its capabilities but they can still arrange for the right search area to leak out in other ways.  If they want to. One might naievely think they would want to because terrorism was suspected.

-The satellite arcs are based on a single ping which came when the plane was at the very end of its plausible flying time.  But the engine monitoring system that supposedly can't be turned off was supposedly turned off over the Gulf of Thailand.  The one ping is a misdirection.

-It would have been easy to fake the satellite arcs by fiddling with the timer or timestamping software on the plane.  This could have been done at Diego Garcia if a technician was put there in advance.

-The plane had a backdoor which allowed it to be taken over by remote control.  This system was sold as preventing terrorism.  Typical duplicity.

-The Malaysians are still not releasing the cargo manifest.  Not even a fake one.

-The puppetmasters stole the plane for some other reason (Freescale tech+employees? Gold?) but now they need to dispose of the evidence, including bodies.  Can't risk anyone finding the plane on the bottom of the ocean minus its cargo and black box.  OK, I guess the box could be fake, gold could be tungsten and empty clothes could be in the Freescale seats.  But there is an easier way to dispose of everything.  Hint:  There are a few wars they are itching to start.  Stay tuned...

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 12:06 | 4585584 lordylord
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MSM has been playing this story NON-STOP.  They wildly speculate ANY and ALL possible theories..except one.  One apsect they never discuss is the fact that 20 people contracted by the DoD were on the flight.  Why is MSM ignoring this???  Why won't they play this angle to boost their ratings?  The reason is that the real reason for the disappearance of the plane is related to these 20 men and their work.  MSM must hide this fact with their speculative nonsense.  BOOM!

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 12:23 | 4585860 Herd Redirectio...
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Whats interesting to me, the people I talk to all want to talk about MOTIVE right off the bat.  Even though we know fuck-all for sure, they want to start with motive (preferably involving religious fanatics, because that is easy on the palate).

So I say, "Well, the USAF has the technological capability to hijack the plane and make it disappear from civilian ATC."

And then the response is, "But why would America do that?"

By keeping  critical information out of the news, while bombarding people with speculation, they have basically engineered the desired response from the public.  "Its a mystery!  Trust the experts!"

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:30 | 4585348 johnQpublic
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the mother of all fuckups


see federal reserve for other examples of same

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:45 | 4585389 Son of Loki
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"The Malaysian officials admitted they saw Big Foot holding onto some debris of the flight and Elvis in a life raft not far off."



Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:13 | 4585270 GaryNeville
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Rest In Peace.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:51 | 4585413 blackhand
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If there ain't no body, nobody is dead.

When someone is standing at a press conference with a chuck of this thing, then we can talk about being "beyond a reasonable doubt".

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:25 | 4586397 detached.amusement
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I wonder if anyone told that to the "parents" of sandy hook that werent allowed to see their dead kids...

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 11:02 | 4585459 Hobbleknee
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The plane went off course and was shot down according to SOP. They will never admit this because then people will ask why planes weren't shot down on 9-11.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 15:47 | 4586787 Dr. Sandi
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The 911 planes weren't off their official course.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 12:14 | 4585806 Dimons jock
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Do they have any physical proof or are they too tired of looking & wasting money on this sham?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 15:48 | 4586793 Dr. Sandi
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Nobody collects insurance until the plane is officially crashed. Or so I'm guessing.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:03 | 4585224 achmachat
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whoa Tylers... very misleading typo in your title:


Plane Lost And Anyone On Board Survived


and fixed.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:03 | 4585230 Dr. Engali
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I smell a rat. Speaking of rats... a fucking text? WTF? 

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:13 | 4585269 kridkrid
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Hello patient, I know you've been waiting patiently on the test results. We are sorry to say that your cancer is stage 4. Oh, and you have cancer. Do not reply to this text as we have no mechanism to retrieve your text. All the best.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:19 | 4585305 kridkrid
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Hello teenage daughter, so how is your first phone treating you? Remember, we are on a family data plan and can't go over 4MB/month, so use wifi whenever you can. Speaking of family plan, your mother and I are getting a divorce. We both still love you, but I've always loved you more than your bitch mother. - Dad

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:17 | 4585294 A Lunatic
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I know your family went missing a few weeks ago. They're prolly dead :) Please follow the link in order to redeem your free frequent flier miles........

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:26 | 4585330 Ratscam
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I smell, see and hear a rat. What a scam!
airplane was in souther corridor. The engines flew in another direction towards the maldives, according to their last signal. Makes sense, sure.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 15:49 | 4586796 Dr. Sandi
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Maybe the plane and the engines had a trial separation.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 11:59 | 4585712 Quus Ant
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Same reason you break up with your crazy girlfriend by text.

String her along for a couple months with insane stories about where you are and who you're with

and then try to break up in person- she'll rearrange your face and gift wrap your balls for you.  After removing them of course.


No way were officials going into a closed room with family members and dropping this on them.

No one knows this is bullshit more than the families and friends there on the ground.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:04 | 4585236 pods
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Thanks for the text assholes.  WTF? 

Reasonable doubt?  How about where the fuck is the plane?  That is reasonable doubt right there.


Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:17 | 4585292 SilverIsKing
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They have now confirmed that the plane was hijacked and it landed...somewhere.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:52 | 4585412 fredquimby
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Which does not discount remote hijacking.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:54 | 4585426 creeko
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hahaha... yep!

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 16:53 | 4587142 Cacete de Ouro
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You mean, by rushing out with this nonsense, the Malaysian government has inadvertently signalled that the plane was hijacked and landed (intact) somewhere (on land)?
At least, that's what I think you mean.... I would agree

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:05 | 4585240 dogismycopilot
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Mugatu in ZOOLANDER: "the prime minister of malaysia is a bad man."

with even horrible grammer and even fucking worse manners

i still feel guilty about breaking up with a chick in Las Vegas 8 years ago by text - and she only wanted me to marry her - let alone telling a few hundred families their loves are dead by text. what a douche bag.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:13 | 4585273 Miffed Microbio...
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She obviously lost out, you being such a high quality person. Someday maybe you can grow a pair and not hide behind a phone. Why bother with guilt when it's easier to just accept what you are?


Mon, 03/24/2014 - 11:35 | 4585616 Tall Tom
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Wow...That was a loaded response. We did not have Text Messaging when we were growing up. So of course we did that face to face in a restaurant usually.


I have done many things which I regret in my close to 55 Years. Nobody is perfect.  I am sure that you have some regrets too.


He expressed that he felt poorly and it still bothers him. He needs to forgive himself. 


But you really rubbed it in.


So what is going on? Did someone close to you get hurt in this "new fangaled fashion"? Your response was loaded with emotion.


Of course I do not like the new fashion. I am not supporting that at all. But the kids learn the hard way when growing up. It happened Eight years ago and I am sure that he is wiser now.


So what is going on?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 20:27 | 4588122 Miffed Microbio...
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I asked Mr about this one and he does agree with me. This type of personal interaction must be done face to face. If he was young and dumb as we all were at some point, than reparations are in order. I have done plenty of that myself because, yes I fully admit, I hurt many people in my life and regret it all. Guilt remains when you don't have the ability or courage to deal with the past. And the only way is to address it head on, not run to safety. But I may be speaking to you too personally. Your response has some emotion as well. Perhaps I'm inadvertently touching on something.


Mon, 03/24/2014 - 12:25 | 4585873 Blano
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I think this is the first time I've seen Miffed really irritated, yikes!!

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 18:11 | 4587521 Miffed Microbio...
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Blano and Tom,
I don't have a problem with someone not marrying someone whom they have no interest. I turned down many offers of marriage myself. But I told them I was sorry but I didn't love them to their face. Not by fax or phone. I got no joy doing this, in fact I felt terrible. Two of them still "carry a torch for me" and we can no longer associate. It's the cowardice that angers me really.


Mon, 03/24/2014 - 12:10 | 4585780 RevRex
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Leave his Grammer out of this, she had nothing to do with it.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:06 | 4585246 buzzsaw99
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thanks for the news flash a-holz

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:06 | 4585250 magpie
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Texts are standard operating procedure in that part of the world.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:11 | 4585253 zionhead
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Well we sort of know they off-loaded the GOLD and most of the passengers on Diego-Garcia,

So maybe for once its correct, "That nobody that was on the aircraft survived, cuz nobody was on aircraft".

This should be interesting if it is found, and seeing everybody fight over the corpses to find cause of death, cuz you know if the USA gets their first,...

It appears that CHINA (AUSSIE) got their first, ... you never know,... maybe they knew what they were looking for?

Well if the AUSSIES got their first, and the BUAP was being ran out of MELBOURNE, ...

Too bad a credible party doesn't find the body's first, ...easy to tell if someone drowned, or died before the plane hit the drink.


Tidbits of INFO are going to trickle out for months,...

We can only hope that all party's get some stuff to collect, so that its impossible for CLUB-ZIO to create ONE SINGLE NARRATIVE.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 11:05 | 4585464 Mentaliusanything
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well Its 9 pm in Western Australia, Nothing found yet and you will be waiting at least another 14 hrs. So what they said was just a pressured assumption based on loose reco and image. Still no release of the full Manifest and that is puzzling because it makes positive identification of floating goods possible. No bodies will be recovered at this late stage, even if they have bloated up, the fish, sharks and surface preds will have disposed of the edible stuff.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 12:12 | 4585792 Grosvenor Pkwy
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"they off-loaded the GOLD and most of the passengers on Diego-Garcia"

I thought you were totally opposed to the Diego Garcia hypothesis???

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:08 | 4585256 NoDebt
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NOW the lawsuits can commence.  Finally.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:17 | 4585293 Cheyenne
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Judge: I notice you don't have any evidence to support your clients' standing in this case.

Plaintiffs' atty: But a text message said to "assume beyond a reasonable doubt" that 370 crashed.

Judge: GTFO. Next case.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:22 | 4585316 Cacete de Ouro
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So when are the press conferences from Boeing, Rolls Royce, Inmarsat, SITA (, National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB etc ?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:10 | 4585262 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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Something / someone rather special to certain folks was on that flight.

And those folks did not want that someone something to wind up at destination Peking.


Mon, 03/24/2014 - 11:21 | 4585558 Momauguin Joe
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Did they ever release the mysterious cargo manifest? You know, the one with 200 tons of something onboard. 40,000 pounds is alot of gold, err... alot of something.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 11:41 | 4585655 Debugas
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it was lithium batteries on board

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 11:50 | 4585685 Buckaroo Banzai
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When configured as a freighter, the 777 has a maximum cargo capacity of 112 tons.

Of course, this was a passenger jet, so the maximum cargo capacity of that particular plane was lower. I suppose with 300 people on board that's maybe 25 tons of humans, plus another 15 tons for all the passenger cabin equipment, and 15 tons for passenger baggage-- leaving maybe 60 tons for cargo?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 12:34 | 4585903 Momauguin Joe
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Correction to my post above: 20 tons of cargo, not 200. Still 40,000 pounds of something.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 17:19 | 4587268 Cacete de Ouro
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I'm not sure about the 777-200ER but the passenger 777-300ER has the following payload capacity

NON-USA Routes
Passengers + Baggage 33.6 tons
Cargo 25 tons
Capacity Payload 58.6 tons

USA Routes
Passengers + Baggage 45.1 tons
Cargo 21.6 tons
Capacity Payload 66.7 tons


Since MH370 apparently had 50 empty seats, that's some extra cargo payload (or baggage) capacity

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 17:12 | 4587243 Cacete de Ouro
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"On April 2, 1997, a Malaysia Airlines -200ER named "Super Ranger" broke the great circle "distance without landing" record for an airliner by flying eastward from Boeing Field, Seattle to Kuala Lumpur, a distance of 10,823 nautical miles (20,044 km), in 21 hours and 23 minutes."

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 11:53 | 4585690 Scoobywan
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The 777 can't carry anywhere near 200 tons of cargo....


Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:12 | 4585263 RabbitChow
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I think you['ll see the plane reappear one day soon.  This was a clean hijacking, no doubt about it.  The plane landed somewhere, and all I have seen in the search process are false flags.

The best place to hide is in plane sight.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 13:30 | 4586120 Wahooo
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I'm beginning to think this plane never actually took off.  That's more likely than CNN's black hole.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:13 | 4585271 Smegley Wanxalot
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Malaysian Air is right:

1) Plane lost (to CIA funded terrorists)

2) No one survived (the CIA saw to that, personally)

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:32 | 4585355 ZeroPoint
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It would not surprise me if a plane is hijacked now, it is taken over remotely and crashed on purpose. But since there is no wreckage, all there is is speculation, and governments not saying jack.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:14 | 4585272 RadioactiveRant
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I'm not convinced anyone that that knew how to fly that plane would have flown it to Antarctica. If you're going to kill yourself in a plane at least do it for a reason.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:15 | 4585278 drchris
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Dude, Where's My 777?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:15 | 4585279 silentboom
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A text?  Didn't these families at least deserve a tweeted pic?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:15 | 4585281 Cacete de Ouro
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I call bullshit on this Malaysian junta. They have obviously been blackmailed bigtime

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:35 | 4585364 zionhead
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Payback is a bitch, when you fuck the tribe.

Multinational black opp according to Veterans Today
Malaysia convicts Israel of genocide december 2013


ZIO's control FREESCALE patents now, ... all patent holders dead, patent reverts to Rothschild, and passes all patents for Obama-Chip to Israel.

All story's can have a happy ending

Google 'freescale semiconductor' digestible computer,... 'non approved thinking?', not a problem, automatic narco-lepsy,... thank you Cass Sunstein.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:52 | 4585415 GaryNeville
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ZIONHEAD can't you do us all a favour and go back to playing your XBOX.


Mon, 03/24/2014 - 11:16 | 4585534 Tall Tom
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He needs to be here to learn. I have little problem with his presence or anybody else's.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 11:06 | 4585480 Confused
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Keep an eye on this. The next filing (in theory of course) should/would include any changes to patent ownership. 


Just saying. 

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 11:56 | 4585696 Buckaroo Banzai
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The gaping flaw in your theory, Zionhead, is that the patents in question ALREADY had 100% of the rights assigned to Freescale. No need for any skullduggery to control the patents.

This is SOP for anybody who patents something as an employee of a corporation. The employees' names will be on the patent, but the rights are always assigned to the corporation.


Mon, 03/24/2014 - 12:19 | 4585840 RobD
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So true, the first job I had out of college was at a private company that designed and manufactured burners for industrial steam generation. The main designer was very prolific in generating patents for that company that also generated millions in profits and you know what he got when one of his new patents got approved? They took him out for a sandwich lol.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 12:20 | 4585836 Grosvenor Pkwy
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"ZIO's control FREESCALE patents now, ... all patent holders dead, patent reverts to Rothschild, and passes all patents for Obama-Chip to Israel."

Intentionally killing the engineers makes no sense. First of all, they don't hold the patents, their employer does, and in any case holding a patent is almost meaningless, because the only thing you get from owning a patent is the right to sue someone else at great expense in court, and the average engineer does not have the financial and legal resources to defend his patent rights even if he owned it outright.

Second, the engineers are more valuable alive than dead, and engineers are easy to bribe, just offer them a good salary, buy them a nice home and few other perks and they'll jump ship no problem. They'll show up for work Monday morning with a new identity and get to their first meeting by 10 am.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:15 | 4585282 ebworthen
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Well, yes, this is most likely.

They got tired of people expecting them to perform miracles.

A tragedy happened, either mechanically or human induced, and the families and everyone else wanted to know NOW.

Understandable for the families, yet we are all only human, we can only do so much.

The group mind has come to expect Godlike omniscience, what with the "God" of science and technology we worship.

The Earth is still vast enough for technology to not matter, and for humanity to be powerless.

R.I.P. innocent Passengers and Crew - if you are all gone.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:16 | 4585284 Beard of Zeus
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"We have to assume"..."all evidence suggests"


So you're telling me there's a chance? YEAH!

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:17 | 4585288 zionhead
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Malaysia airlines announces the missing plane is assumed crashed in the Southern Indian Ocean west of Perth with no survivors.

The Prime Minister of Malaysia says satellite analysis shows the plane's last position was west of Perth.


So now we're told the that satellite shows the plane last seen west of Perth,... funny they didn't know this 2-1/2 weeks ago when it went down?

Now wreckage said to be spread +500 MILES.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:18 | 4585299 zionhead
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The Prime Minister of Malaysia says satellite analysis shows the plane's last position was west of Perth.


Is this new INFO? Or did they just find out today, because 2+ weeks later IMMARSAT was forced by CHINA to release data?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:18 | 4585300 beyondtheprogramming
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this is why people are so messed up today, they pay attention to this. wtf, i dont get it.

unless you have a family member or loved one on that plane or in the path of a mudslide or burried under rubble of a disaster somewhere (which happen every single day yet surprisingly maybe 1 % of the entire planet's population ever dies such a horrible death.) why do you even care about this mind toxin? sadly, these things happen but its probaly happening on the other side of the world and to people you dont even know and will never meet. i am not being heartless here, folks. this is reality of living in the matrix. it isnt happening to YOU yet you get all emotionally involved then waste everyone's time and energy focusing on something that is distraction and may as well be fiction at this point - you'd be far better off spending your time wondering about the consequences for murdering that nest of wasps in the garden last spring...

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:20 | 4585310 zionhead
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Because this take 911, to a new level.

Before they could kill in the USA, anybody anytime and nobody cared,

Now they can kill Russians and Chinese, innocent civilian's, anywhere on earth and nobody cares, ...

This takes KILLING to a whole new level.

This is why it matters.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:45 | 4585376 beyondtheprogramming
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i hear what you're saying and yet, if focusing on any of this trauma hype we get bombarded with from mass media could change the world, it would have already done it by now. 


all the fundamental systems that are strangling the life out of this world are still made up of people, like you and me. people are changing, but it's one mind at a time and it's a slow and difficult process for most, at best. and if you've ever tried to change something about yourself, you'll know how hard it is trying to change everyone else in the world.


then again, it might be serving you feeling all knotted up over things 1000s miles away that you have no control over. all i'm suggesting is this is why people are so messed up so why not try focusing on something you do have some control over.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:19 | 4585308 ZeroPoint
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I have no doubt the passengers are dead. But I have some doubts that the plane crashed....

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:21 | 4585312 Xandrino
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Assumptions, the mother of all fuck ups

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:24 | 4585322 zionhead
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From the legal stand point this announcement is of importance, since families can now start the necessary procedures related to the properties of those who were lost.


The tribal LAWYER's MUST GET PAID, now the fun start's, CALL SAUL.

This is just a new bump in the road,... maybe in years we'll be still speculating what happened to those people, it will be conspiracy shit for years.


Here's the real DEAL, NADA was found, they just formally have turned on the green light for INSURANCE pay-outs,... aka how the West takes care of biz, ... your baby dies, .. here take some FIAT and go fuck yourself.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:26 | 4585329 A Lunatic
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Since they know where it is now, maybe they can find it.........

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:31 | 4585352 zionhead
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If you hide in 777, or in the ocean they can't find you :)

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:26 | 4585336 Gaurden
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You cant even call the world a shithole anymore because its far worse than that. Everyone knows whos behind this because they are the same ones that are behind everything.

If your a freakin space alien stay the fuck away from here, This planet is a containment vessel for pure evil.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:44 | 4585386 magpie
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Relax, the passengers are alive and being shuffled between FEMA camps and black ops locations in North America. The two Malaysian hero pilots are in Germany, awaiting the target for martyrdom.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:47 | 4585397 zionhead
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Operation "PENCIL-DICK" so I'm told.

The CIA in their finest hour, ...

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:52 | 4585411 magpie
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I believe both India and Israel had plans for destroying the plane on the ground...nevermind the hostages, they are Chinese.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:35 | 4585366 Duc888
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We have already heard, first hand, how the plane tracks itself in ways that can’t be turned off. Thus, we know the team at Rolls Royce can tell us within 30 yards of where the engines were first turned off yet they have never said a word.

But, there are a few systems that can’t be turned off and one is the engine monitoring systems.  The Malaysia airplane, like our 777-200’s, uses Rolls Royce Trent Engines (as a piece of trivia….Rolls Royce names their motors after rivers….because they always keep on running!)  Rolls Royce leases these motors to us and they monitor them all the time they are running.

In fact, a few years back, one of our 777’s developed a slow oil leak due and partial equipment failure.  It wasn’t bad enough to set off the airplane’s alerting system, but RR was looking at it on their computers.  They are in England, they contact our dispatch in (REDACTED), Dispatch sends a message to the crew via SatCom in the North Pacific, telling them that RR wants them to closely monitor oil pressure and temp on the left engine.

The crew did all of that and landed uneventfully, but after landing and during the taxi in, the left engine shut itself down using it’s redundant, computerized operating system that has a logic tree that will not allow it to be shut down if the airplane is in the air…only on the ground.  Pretty good tech.   Anyway, the point was that RR monitors those engines 100% of the time they are operating

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:42 | 4585382 zionhead
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This was a test of the Un-Interruptible Autopilot system, this was only a test.

Please return to your TV.

All those harmed will be paid FIAT at the expense of INFINTE FREE FIAT Service near you.

This was only a post 911 anti-terrorism test,... thank you for your cooperation.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:38 | 4585374 zionhead
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Now the ZIONIST's in LONDON are saying they KNEW all along, ... what took them so long?

Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said in a 1am AEDT news conference that a new analysis of satellite data showed that the missing plane plunged into the southern Indian Ocean.

Mr Najib said the Inmarsat satellite company had used never-before used technology and found that MH370 flew along the southern corridor.

“Its last position was in the middle of the Indian Ocean west of Perth,” he said 17 days after MH370 disappeared enroute from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 passengers and crew on board.

“This is a remote location far from any possible landing sites. It is therefore with deep sadness and I regret that I must inform you that accoding to this new data that MH370 ended in the southern Indian Ocean.

“The past few weeks have been heartbreaking. I know this news must be harder still.”

The overnight developments came after Prime Minster Tony Abbott announced that two “objects” were located by a RAAF P3 Orion in the search for MH370.

Mr Abbott told Parliament the first object was grey or green and circular and the second was orange and rectangular.

Distraught family members of those on board were being booked on charter flights to take them to Perth to be near the expecte salvage operation.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:40 | 4585377 TalkToLind
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To hell with official gubermitt statements.  Show me the wreckage.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:45 | 4585391 zionhead
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In Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia’s Minister of Defence and Acting Minister of Transport Hishammuddin Hussein told a media conference that the new items had not yet been identified or linked to the missing Malaysia Airlines plane.

“Two orange objects, approximately one metre in length, and one white-coloured drum were sighted by search aircraft, but remain unidentified and have not been conclusively linked to MH370,” he said.


Of course NOTHING was found, but here is the DEAL the MALAYSIA cops are now beating family members, better to declare ALL DEAD, then the insurance company's do the payoff's and the airlines quit funding free meals and free hotels for family members, this is all about politics, corporate FASCISM if you will.

In Summary, this offers closure now get the fuck out of here and go back to CHINA,

Where are the body's? Where is the mysterious cargo?

This is going to be bigger than 911, or JFK in years to come.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 12:05 | 4585750 Scoobywan
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That's assuming either of those were conspiracies.....

Some dude's blog about some dude's book about some dude he knew, who used to work with a guy that lived next door to a guy that got pulled over by a cop that worked on the JFK detail or that worked a stairwell in the WTC doesn't make it true.

It's unbelievable how much false evidence gets passed as true, just because it's been repeated over and over.. GIGO.

IF they find the wreckage it won't be long until they KNOW why it crashed, the boxes don't lie.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 13:16 | 4586088 Mentaliusanything
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patience... the HMS SUPPLYwill be on point in 9 hrs. They Navy has continually requested the full manifest so any item found can be positly identfied. To date this simple request has not been forthcoming. That makes positive identification of any floating object fruitles, unless they find something like a bag with a ticket attached or a passport in a plastic bag. The whole recovery teams need this information and it has not been supplied. You have to ask why such a simply request has not been granted. This is the outlier that is frustrating every one. They need it so as to make a positivand not an assumptive identification. Puzzelling and foolish. 

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:48 | 4585402 Yancey Ward
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In other news, CNN announces it is closing up shop with the announcement that MH370 has been found to have crashed.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:59 | 4585445 zionhead
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Yep, ... almost by consensus, back to NASCAR.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:51 | 4585410 Azannoth
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So why and how did the plane end up going in the exact opposite direction to it's destiantion?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:58 | 4585441 zionhead
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Maybe it was an 180 degree BUAP :)


Remember though we still don't know shit, and even if the orange shit is life-rafts you dont' know if they were they were 'THE' life-rafts, ... this story will never have closure, until the players are near death and start talking.

The OCEAN is full of garbage, ... waiting 3 weeks, but the water is extremely cold very easy to know if the people drowned or not,... certainly body's will be found. If the actually found the "THE" plane.

If the plane went down whole, and they bring it up, the body's will be there,...

I seriously doubt if they sent the plane in the drink, that they would want to have kept prisoners.


Now the COLD war to find the black-box begins,... but how do we know the CIA didn't "PLANT" a black-box? This shit has no closure.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:52 | 4585416 zionhead
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Malay PM admits the truth "I love NASCAR, I hate whining Chinese people, when the Nascar people called me and told me they had no rooms, I sent the Chinese people packing",

End of fucking story, ...

This weekend’s Formula One grand prix in Malaysia is also causing problems, with relatives of passengers on the missing flight forced to move hotels.

The Italian Ferrari team has had a long-held booking at the Cyberview Resort and Spa in Kuala Lumpur.

Formula One commercial boss Bernie Ecclestone told NBC: “I feel terribly, terribly sorry for these people. But it is up to the hotel. What would happen if you told somebody that they no longer had a booking? You would get sued, I’d imagine.”

The relatives will be put up at a new hotel as the search continues. Several foreign officials, investigators and journalists are also being forced to move.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 10:59 | 4585449 esum
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where is the proof..... this is just more speculation to end this fiasco...

of course it comes from a gubmint official so it must be the truth.... right?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 11:02 | 4585461 Perfecthedge
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What if they are all on an Island, having a huge beach fiesta and fucking each other's brains out?

This theory is as good as the governments statement.

In other words: "We are sick and tired of the media circus, we don't have a clue and want this to be over. The costs are sky rising and we cannot afford to pay this monkey circus without breaking our profit goals.  Good nite. And fuck you all."


Mon, 03/24/2014 - 11:03 | 4585467 esum
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Boeing filed and got a patent in Dec 2006 for "remote control" of a passanger jet to remove control from hijackers.... Has this mechanism been deployed....??? 

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 15:57 | 4586838 Dr. Sandi
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Of course not. That would be naughty.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 11:07 | 4585489 Max Cynical
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Sounds like authorities are attempting to put forth a story of lies that this aircraft just ran out of fuel and crashed...bullshit.

If they're going to run with this, this probably indicates negotiations have failed and the U.S.has already found and destroyed the aircraft and everyone around the storage hangar (including the passengers) where its been stored since it disappeared.

"Yes of course, we found some debris floating on the surface of the ocean after three weeks and to be sensitive to the families, we sunk the debris so that they wouldn't suffer any longer having to see the destruction..."

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 11:13 | 4585505 Rising Sun
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The drama is over.  Sad for the families.


Now what about this fucking drama?????


Barry fucking asshole wants to hand over the internet to the UN - why????????????????????????????????


So shit fucking nations like Malaysia can fuck with the content we can read???? Oh wait, so Russia can make the internet more free????


So goobermint can put filters on sites like ZH??????????????



Mon, 03/24/2014 - 11:20 | 4585553 Tall Tom
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I agree that this is very tragic and I express my sincerest condolences to the families whom have lost their loved ones.



Mon, 03/24/2014 - 11:16 | 4585529 stant
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most likely it will return with a load of torpex and spent fuel rods. a big cruise misslle ala a gov contractor working outa wegonafkyupistan

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 11:21 | 4585559 GIABO
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Lt. Gen. Mcinerney is a NEO-CON war criminal. Fuck that joker.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 12:16 | 4585820 icanhasbailout
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Yep, the involvement of he and other notable shit-stirrers cements in my mind that the USG is definitely up to no good. It's the usual cabal of propagandists sent to hit the media for psyops - whenever I see any of those names I know they're running cover for someone who is up to no good.


It's like seeing John McCain in another country. You know if he's there, he's running cover for black ops, because that appears to be all he does, 24/7.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 11:22 | 4585565 ZeroPoint
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Watch what the governments do. If they keep scrambling jets to intercept 777s, if Israel does not go off high alert, you know that plane is still out there, or at least they think it is.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:12 | 4586325 New World Chaos
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I think it's more likely that the air defense network will be down or distracted by a drill, like on 9/11.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 11:23 | 4585568 Duc888
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Rising Sun: Barry fucking asshole wants to hand over the internet to the UN - why????????????????????????????????




Read and learn, from KD's site.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 11:23 | 4585571 Fiscal.Enema
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As I said a few days ago, the black world NRO, has known all along where this flight went down. And now the announcement has come as I predicted. It's very interesting as to how they have given cheese to the mice. I find amazing that no news agency that I am aware of even mentioned classified assets and they're capabilities. The follow-on to navy white cloud has the ability to track all large commercial and military aircraft that are flying anywhere in the world. We also have the ability to go to orbit cross over to the Indian Ocean de-orbit, take a look around at sea level and then go to orbit again and go back to base. All within hours. These amazing crafts do not rely on chemical propulsion and are not rocket powered. Be cynical or sarcastic with your remarks but ZH don't no nothing when it come to aerospace. I do.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 11:32 | 4585594 magpie
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I do not doubt the existence of such capabilities...but they would not be under American command.

All organs of the USA will prove  surprisingly incapable to track to plane in its final journey.

Maybe let the aliens let more people "walk the stargate" if you know what i mean.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 12:24 | 4585737 Fiscal.Enema
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Of course the gov does a great job with disinformation. aliens do not exist. But it's a great way to keep compartmentalizes programs from being discovered. The US gov has agreements with Boeing, Rockwell and others to use nav/com equipment to report aircraft positions surreptitiously. They know. It not conspiracy, it's fact.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 12:15 | 4585814 Martian Tourist
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The B2s use anti gravity propulsion apparently. Hidden in plain sight. The engines aren't powerful enough to take off given the plane's weight and are only used to generate the electric charge needed to create the Biefeld Brown effect.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 11:26 | 4585582 Beard of Zeus
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To be fair to the Malaysians, those grieving Chinese families are kinda acting like dicks.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 11:29 | 4585600 Beard of Zeus
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I mean, it's not as if there's a shortage of Chinese people.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 11:36 | 4585635 Azannoth
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It's not the shortage it's the balance that matters, see the Chinese on this plane where from the West but China is heavily (over)populated in the East so if there are not enough Chinese in the West part China will tip-over and sink into the East China Sea, this is a major issue for China :)

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 11:53 | 4585689 q99x2
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Guess they now know for sure that it landed on Diego Garcia.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 11:54 | 4585693 skins1
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I am so confused...

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 12:07 | 4585761 icanhasbailout
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Interesting that they are already using language associated with defending themselves from accusations of a crime.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 12:11 | 4585784 Martian Tourist
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So are they saying they know the location where it crashed into the ocean?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 12:12 | 4585796 Crash Overide
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So someone paid the pilot to fly to Diego Garcia or somewhere else, offload cargo and maybe a couple of the folks associated with Freescale Semiconductor technology, then they use the fly by wire system to crash the plane in a remote part of the Indian Ocean 2 weeks later all the while creating a media distraction?


Politically motivated highly skilled pilot has his family move out of house the day before, fly's plane to remote part of Indian Ocean, disables emergency transponder, disables black box, and then crashes plane into ocean because...?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 12:32 | 4585896 Tom_333
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Boeing seems to have a problem. First frying the Dleamriner and now this. Malaysia has even a bigger problem. I would say it´s a reasonable conclusion that mentioned parties do not tell all there is to know. What was in the cargo hull again...?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 13:09 | 4586061 Cacete de Ouro
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Mangosteens filled with gold

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:29 | 4588770 MeelionDollerBogus
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And now with the Dutch! Seems Boeing makes wandering planes.

Oh but I could drone on and on and on...

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 13:01 | 4586033 observer007
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MH370 south east of Austrlia? How insane


totally invented story. This never is true


latest News:!q=Malaysia+Airlines&t=text

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 13:15 | 4586080 Michigander
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Totally a government operation. 20 engineers on the plane, working on next generation stealth (cloaking technology) being developed for the military at Freescale in the US. C'mon...wake up and smell the fucking coffee.

Take it out in the middle of nowhere, fly it low and slow, parachute the engineers you want off, then ditch the plane. Stranger things have happened.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:34 | 4586450 Bennie Noakes
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Until you find the wreckage, I don't see how you can be sure that no one survived. It is true that seas are very rough in the southern Indian Ocean and it would be very difficult for someone to survive there for two weeks. But I don't see how they can say "beyond doubt".

I would like to know how they arrived at this conclusion. This statement seems cruel and unwarranted unless it is backed by very solid technical proof.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:28 | 4588767 MeelionDollerBogus
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Remember all that technical proof of the 'plane' that crashed into the Pentagon, and the same day the one over Pennsylvania? Um hmmmm. That's where the bar sits for 'proof' in 'american' citizenism.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:38 | 4586479 MeelionDollerBogus
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"and definitely no gold was in the cargo. Boating ... I mean ... plane accident. So sorry. You go home now. Nothing to see here"

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 18:00 | 4587365 TalkToLind
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I like where you're going with this.  

You say you lost your hard assets in a boating accident?  We don't believe you.  Wait, you say your PMs went down on MH370???  Checkmate.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:01 | 4588238 cannonfodder
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I was beginning to think I was going mad, until I found this conversation and now I'm relieved to know I'm not the only one thinking that this was a deliberate act initiated because of a heretofore undisclosed shipment of gold from Singapore to Beijing.

On March 14, I posted this to Yahoo! under an article about the missing plane.

Here's my theory:

If the plane did in fact continue flying for 4 hours, as the media is now claiming, that would have widened the range to include the US base at Diago Garcia, and would have taken it undetectably over mostly remote and vacant airways across water.

There was much news and excitement around the new year about a huge new metals exchange and high tech gold vault going into operation in Singapore, and recently the Chinese central bank has been buying significant amounts from that exchange, and even cashing in on less well known funds like Sprott Assets ETF in Toronto, as well as Central Fund of Canada ETF in Calgary. Recent gold volumes have been in the range of 80 - 100 tons per month, and nowadays most of it would be delivered by air.

Concurrently, the Federal Reserve has been struggling to find more than the 5 tons of gold they managed to return to Germany in late 2013, although they still claim to have that 8,200 tons from the mid 1950's that nobody has actually seen for decades.

The US just has to cripple Russia and needs Germany on side for their annexation of Ukraine and it’s naval base. If the Germans feel that they've already been mugged and robbed, they will be much less eager to participate in US empire building. What better way to show how honest and sincere you are than to give them back some of the gold they entrusted to you, even if you have to steal it from somebody else. The only minor moral hurdle is what to do with the passengers on board, but hey, foreigners are dispensable, aren’t they?



Then, on Friday, I noted that one of the major bullion banks on the COMEX received 5 tons of gold.  A quick scan through the COMEX daily reports (I've saved them each day for almost 7 years) and a withdrawal of 10 tons from the same bullion bank appears on January 27.  That was noted to my wife, along with the speculation that maybe the other 5 tons would have been deposited on Friday, but we'd have to wait til Monday because the reports are always a day behind.  Today, not really to my surprise, another deposit of 5 tons to the same bullion bank appears in the report.


Being a cynic, I also believe that the wasted time searching to the north was a diversion.  Understand that this is pure speculation; but let's assume that someone with agents around the world, much the same as baron Rothschild knowing the outcome of Waterloo before anyone else in Britain, took steps to divert the plane and its cargo in order to 'repatriate' 10 tons of gold before it fell into Chinese hands.


I know it sounds 'James Bondish', but considering some of the recent current events, ..... ......

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