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Ukraine Leader In New Leaked Recording: 8 Million Russians In Ukraine "Must Be Killed With Nuclear Weapons"

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While the NSA is busy justifying its spying of every American its existence thanks to famous Moscow resident Edward Snowden, its Russian counterparts have been busy intercepting even more phone Ukrainian conversations.

After a month ago a leaked phone call between US assistant secretary of state Victoria Nuland and the US envoy to the Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt confirmed that it was the US that was pulling the strings in what was about to be a violent coup overthrowing Ukraine's president Yanukovich, "someone" has just leaked another phone conversation, this time between parliamentarian Nestor Shufrych and former PM and ideological leader of the Ukraine "revolution" Yulia Tymoshenko and most probable future president of West Ukraine, in which Tymoshenko is makes the following threats, "It’s going too far! Bugger! We must grab arms and go whack those damn katsaps [a Ukrainian word used to refer to the Russians in a negative tone] together with their leader", "I’ll use all my connections, I’ll raise the whole world – as soon as I’m able to – in order to make sure.. Bugger!.. not even scorched earth won’t remain where Russia stands" although all her empty threats collapse in the last sentence of the phone conversation in which she says, regarding the Crimea annexation, that "we are going to take it to the Hague International Criminal Court." Good luck with that.

But the smoking gun, and where Putin once again shows just how masterful of a chess player he is, is the following statement by Tymoshenko, after asked, rhetorically, by her counterparty, "what should we do now with the 8 million Russians that stayed in Ukraine. They are outcasts"... to which she replies: "They must be killed with nuclear weapons."

Needless to say, that is not how you make Russian friends, or diffuse geopolitical tensions with your superpower neighbor, who just happens to be set on recreating USSR 2.0. Because just like that Putin has his provocation carte blanche, as the second something, anything happens to any ethnic Russian in east Ukraine, Putin can point to precisely this conversation as proof of how Ukraine's "government" feels toward the ethnic minorities in the east, and why "they deserve to be protected" the Russian bearhug. Which has been precisely Putin's plan all along.

It is not surprising that after this recording was leaked, that Tymoshenko admitted the validity of the recording except for this part, because she knows just how greatly it can and will be used against her once Putin decides it is time to expand a little further beyond just Crimea.

Some of the other statements, transcribed by RT, confirming just how powerless Ukraine truly is in this struggle between David backed by the world's most insolvent and natgas hungry countries, and an ascendent Kremlin goliath:

Tymoshenko, who plans to run in Ukraine’s presidential election, expressed confidence that she would have found “a way to zap those assholes [Russia].”

 

“I’ll use all my connections, I’ll raise the whole world – as soon as I’m able to – in order to make sure.. Bugger!.. not even scorched earth won’t remain where Russia stands,” she promised.

 

Despite being incapacitated by spinal disc hernia the ex-PM stressed she’s ready to “grab a machine gun, you know what I’m saying, and go shoot this bastard [Putin] in the forehead.”

Full recording below:

 

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Mon, 03/24/2014 - 13:51 | 4586201 kliguy38
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FINALLY......some sanity is brought to this.....and I thot they just wanted to divy up some real estate and steal their gold........

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 13:55 | 4586220 FlipFlop
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Nuke 8 million people, how does that fit with sanity?
I was believing this crisis would go away as all previous cases. But now it seems that the cat has been released.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 13:56 | 4586227 Almost Solvent
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Good god! Someone please start WW3 already, this is fucking retarded.

(apologies to retards of course)

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 13:59 | 4586249 Pooper Popper
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No problem Almost,

Im uesd to it!

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:06 | 4586292 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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This has to be dumbest lead-in to a major world war... ever.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:10 | 4586308 SamAdams
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Oh Snap!  & Check!  Let's see how Hillary's buddy gets out of this one...

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:11 | 4586318 Pladizow
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Hey Obummer, look up ther defenition of Zugzwang, Putin knows!

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:14 | 4586338 Fortunate Fool
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Instead of taking at face value whatever BS is sputting out of Putin's PR machine (RT), why don't you guys be a it more skeptical and re-read Vladimir Volkoff and all is work on Soviet's misinformation techniques? Those techniques developed by Putin's former employer, the KGB...

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:19 | 4586365 Pladizow
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Also see Tomas Shulman (AKA Yuri Bezmenov) - A Love Letter To America.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:20 | 4586374 fonestar
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Nuke 8 million Russians?  Well we know who's up for the next Nobel Peace Prize.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:27 | 4586411 Fukushima Sam
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We all know that RT is a Russian propaganda tool, right?

I'll wait to hear some confirmation on this outlandish story.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:31 | 4586426 Pladizow
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From an American propoganda tool?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:33 | 4586447 Fukushima Sam
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No.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:36 | 4586463 Pladizow
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Then from where will you get this confirmation?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:45 | 4586513 Fukushima Sam
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I'll know it when I see it.

What I do know is that you can't target 8 million Russians living in Ukraine with nuclear weapons without also killing the Ukrainians they live among.  And destroying Ukrainian infrastructure. So the statement is either fake or harmless hyperbole.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:46 | 4586533 Pladizow
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So it could come from RT?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:49 | 4586554 Troll Magnet
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That's one hot broad right there.

Kinda feel shamed about our ugly ass FLOTUS.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 15:34 | 4586739 fonestar
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Yeah, too bad she appears to be another born, bred and groomed puppet for the NWO.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 16:09 | 4586920 Moustache Rides
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I'm up voting fonestar.. holy crap!

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 16:19 | 4586973 Latina Lover
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At least she is not as ugly as Hillary.  Imagine every morning waking up next to Hillary... who wouldn´t be tempted to push the Red Button and end it all.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 16:51 | 4587132 James_Cole
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If you like crazy Yulia, you'll love her daughter:

http://gdb.rferl.org/E360E816-CE36-4113-97F7-CD5D12C3F88A_mw1024_n_s.jpg

That's the one CNN needs to pull out of the coffin to get joe sixpack America onboard with Ukraine. 

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 17:03 | 4587188 rosiescenario
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....with a daughter like that, mom can't be all bad....

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 19:05 | 4587782 Whoa Dammit
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Tymoshenko is a Psycho Killer. What is wrong with you guys?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA1oFSMwRDU

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 20:13 | 4588060 old naughty
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New cyber chess play...After Vald Z suggested to divide Ukraine along lines of Nazi-Soviet Pact, now "Kill 8 mill".

The badder the better (chess player).

 

I was thinking they were doing 1-up on another female leader we know so well, silly, no?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:45 | 4588402 Overflow
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90% odds it's fake, ok, (I could do it by myself) but...

that means 10% odds it's true! Amazing... Real Spectra bad girls are even hotter than 007 movies.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 22:21 | 4588578 The Dunce
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OK.  OK.  We get it.  Nukes bad.  Russians good.  Bitches.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 00:37 | 4588912 Quus Ant
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Mister Kitty, is that you?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 00:23 | 4588887 dogismycopilot
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I like Ukrainian women more than the next guy, and those two are beautiful (mom not so much now), but the mother is as ruthless and psychotic as any mafia ogliarch - perhaps even more so because of her beauty which has a softening effect on men and allows her to use them as wind-up robots. I would go so far as to say she might even have the ability to hypnotize men. Yeah, beautiful right. Beautiful like the avanlanche that comes of an alpine mountain into a village. 

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 17:07 | 4587213 Keyser
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She's hot, but like most Slavic women, I would wager that her heart is as cold as the dark side of the moon. 

 

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 17:17 | 4587266 James_Cole
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I would wager that her heart is as cold as the dark side of the moon. 

You say that like it's a bad thing. 
Mon, 03/24/2014 - 18:44 | 4587696 chumbawamba
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BITCH IS LIKE HILLARY CLINTON BUT WITH LOOKS AND CLASS.  SHE'S PROBABLY ALSO A RUG MUNCHER.  AT LEAST SHE IS IN MY FANTASIES.

I AM CHUMBAWAMBA.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 19:12 | 4587805 willwork4food
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Rug muncher?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 19:16 | 4587823 chumbawamba
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YEAH, YOU KNOW, A SCISSOR SISTER.

I AM CHUMBAWAMBA.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:04 | 4588248 Ranger4564
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Psst.... lesbo.

 

Hahahahahahahahaaaaaaa.... these comments are too funny.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:23 | 4588315 Independent
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Tymoshenko has claimed her mother has Ukrainian roots and her father Latvian roots "both for ten generations".  However, her Minister of Communications had in 2005 described her origins as half-Jewish, half-Armenian.

Guess it makes sense she wants to nuke somebody lol just look at how the Palestinians are being treated.  I thought people were supposed to learn from their mistreatment not to repeat it again hmmm.....  Maybe the supposed mistreatment never happened.

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=24369

I mean if something like that really happened you would really be against it.  No?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:20 | 4588750 williambanzai7
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Rug munching must be Ukrainian muff diving while dressed in a hazmat.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 00:35 | 4588910 MontgomeryScott
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WB7, my friend,

Aquaint yourself (and all of us who don't know) of the physical lay of the land surrounding Chernoybl, and the waters that feed the formerly life-giving waters in to the water reservouirs that feed the good people of Kiev, Ukraine.

'Hazmat' is the new 'CHIC'.

This woman's children were already condemned before she became of age to bear children. She hates those who did this to her region, her family, and her personal body. The people who claim affinity to the destroyer of her region are not responsible for this tragedy; but she bears a grudge, nonetheless. The people who did this are no longer in power, and the political landscape has changed; however, she remembers this and is forced to live this every day, for the rest of her life. Talk about PTSD...

Well, she probably got pissed off, and had a 'knee-jerk' reaction, much like those in Japan would have had, should some American Air Force Bomber flight leader have come over in the 1960's and accused your parents of being 'uncaring' regarding the American/Japanese sympathizers, as they tried to claim total control over the islands. Think 'Okinawa', here.

She must be a lezbian, or a faggot, or a commie, or an imperialist, because she has had experiences that might have effected her reactions in this isolated case; provoked by a polished, connected, and top-level politician who has his background as the head of the GRU (America's version of the CIA).

I'll bet John McCain, and you, put up for debate, might result in a similar 'out-of-context' non-sequitor statement on your part. FUCK MCCAIN!, by the way.

I am surprised by your comment, in that it seems to be beneath you, sir.

 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 02:33 | 4589052 kareninca
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Wow, I just upvoted Montgomery Scott.  I think my head will explode.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 02:54 | 4589065 TruthInSunshine
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I saw your comment about California - I used to live near you and was active in Baja events.

 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 18:12 | 4591930 kareninca
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hi TIS  -  I got your contact request, and typed "yes," because of course I read your posts with great interest (although of course I often completely disagree with parts).  Then I wanted to contact you to say that I then needed to "uncontact," since my husband HATES ZH beyond imagining and would probably go berserk if he thought I had someone at ZH as a contact (I've only had one other contact request in all my ZH time, and I typed "no" then).  But there was no way to send you such a message (the "contact" option didn't work).  So that is why I have unsigned.  I don't know if you have ever been married, but if you have you might understand.  Anyway I would never have been to a Baja event, since I spend all my time sitting around reading and don't go anywhere.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 19:22 | 4592160 TruthInSunshine
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LMAO.

I totally understand.

I am in Cali nowl and thought that since you were, too, and in financial services I'd say hey, but no prob.

Thanks for the detailed explanation.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 05:34 | 4589176 Headbanger
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I know what you mean... I up-voted both fonerats and Scotty.   Ughhhhhh...

I'm gonna take a hot shower now to decontaminate..

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 03:00 | 4589069 OldPhart
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That's one pecker picker upper....

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 17:14 | 4587248 TheRedScourge
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I highly doubt anyone wakes up next to Hillary, not with that big a house.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 03:28 | 4589038 zhandax
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Guaranteed no one does it twice, no matter how drunk they get.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 16:23 | 4586975 A Nanny Moose
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It happens from time-to-time.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 16:34 | 4587050 BlindMonkey
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fonestar makes sense from time to time.  Too bad 'disabledvet' is on his sleep meds 'cause I am sure he would have all kinds of stupid shit to say about this.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 00:38 | 4588913 MontgomeryScott
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One good comment in an ocean of shit still smells the same.

Fonestar actually DID make a good comment, Let's hold our breath, and wait for the next one.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 16:21 | 4586988 A Nanny Moose
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She has the sweet harmless pleading for mercy pewblik personna act down to a science...complete with princess Leia hair do.

Help me Obi Wan!

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 18:46 | 4587706 chumbawamba
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I KNOW WHERE'D I'D LIKE TO STICK MY LIGHT SABER.

I AM CHUMBA WAN WAMBA.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 19:48 | 4587957 fonestar
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you would produce shape-shifting Chumbalizards though.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 21:01 | 4588234 chumbawamba
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SHUTUP! DON'T TARD UP MY COMMENTS WITH YOUR REPLIES YOU CHIMPANZEE!

I AM CHUMBAWAMBA.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 00:56 | 4588939 MontgomeryScott
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@ Two squares and a circle:

Give a fair chance, here, and don't be a dickhead.

REPOST:

One good comment in an ocean of shit still smells the same.

Fonestar actually DID make a good comment, Let's hold our breath, and wait for the next one.

His comment was actually kind of funny towards you (except that you took it personally, wookie-lite).

Lighten the fuck up, dick. Just because he was fooled by 'BITE-KOIN', in a strange and mysterious religious devotion before seeing that other possibilities could be existant, I don't think your and his personal disagreements should preclude your shared love for each other.

SO: Tell me, is that blonde modern version of Princess Leia HOT, or WHAT?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 01:32 | 4588981 Ralph Spoilsport
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Chumba and fonestar are both good dudes. Has fonestar been around lately? I don't see any recent posts from him.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 00:42 | 4592880 MeelionDollerBogus
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Are you? Or are you slattery?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:54 | 4586573 McMolotov
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Harmless hyperbole? If it's true, it would be like a major American politician saying we should kill all the blacks/hispanics/insert-minority-of-choice.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 15:10 | 4586648 post turtle saver
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My fellow Americans, I am pleased to tell you I just signed legislation which outlaws Russia forever. The bombing begins in five minutes. - Ronald Reagan

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 15:19 | 4586680 Tall Tom
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Ooops...

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 00:00 | 4588838 Buckaroo Banzai
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The difference was, within the context that he made it, Reagan's comment could clearly be interpeted as humor.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 15:30 | 4586650 Save_America1st
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they've already been doing a great job of killing blacks for the last several decades.  They've even gotten the race-baiting victimizer blacks like Al and Jesse (and obama) to go along with it.  10's of millions of black babies aborted over the last several decades.  It may not be the nuclear option, but starting with the Margaret Sanger movement (Hilliary's idol!), they set out on a eugenics program to keep the black population well in check, victimized, and good little black sheep voters of the KKK Demoncratic party.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 15:37 | 4586748 SilverRhino
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Funny how most people miss this point.  

If abortion was outlawed the black population would be a LOT more than 13% in this country.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 15:42 | 4586764 Almost Solvent
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Now that would freak the frak out of some who oppose abortion (and some who don't!)

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 22:34 | 4588626 HulkHogan
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Freakonomics says that the crime rate drifts lower due to abortion. 

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 15:57 | 4586841 Father Lucifer
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Then we would just build more prisons.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 16:37 | 4587069 BlindMonkey
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Good trading strategy.  If Planned Parenthood ever gets out of the abortion business go long CCA.  Solid.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 17:09 | 4587226 Keyser
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And go long guns and ammo, along with home security equipment. Is this a stereotype? No, it's a description of the suspect. 

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 17:50 | 4587436 The Gooch
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As a former resident of (insert bordeline seedy area of shady city here), I can confirm this bias.

I even manged to catch a Norwegian in the act once.

Once.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 16:39 | 4587077 nod2glod
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I logged in just to say thanks for the laugh. Wrong, but funny.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 22:10 | 4588518 TheObsoleteMan
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You don't know what you are talking about. Out of all races in the USA, black women are near the bottom in rankings for abortions. WHY DO YOU SUPPOSE THEY GET PREGNANT IN THE FIRST PLACE FOOL? DEAD BABIES DON'T BRING IN MORE WELFARE CHECKS!!!! White women are at the top of the list for getting abortions, hands down. Got to hand it to the 'mezcun women though. You'll find them at the VD clinics by the droves {they NEVER use protection}, but you won't find them at abortion clinics, they are at the bottom of the list.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 15:17 | 4586673 Tall Tom
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Is it Politically Correct to write Congress Critters, Lawyers, Judges, Central Bankers and Lobbyists in the blank?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 15:17 | 4586675 detached.amusement
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Always superlatively entertained by your euphemisms

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 01:23 | 4588964 MontgomeryScott
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@ McMolotov:

'Harmless Hyperbole' is a version of the American Politician's common expression 'Slippery Slope'.

Hyperbolic functions were introduced in the 1760s independently by Vincenzo Riccati and Johann Heinrich Lambert.[3] Riccati used Sc. and Cc. ([co]sinus circulare) to refer to circular functions and Sh. and Ch. ([co]sinus hyperbolico) to refer to hyperbolic functions. Lambert adopted the names but altered the abbreviations to what they are today.[4] The abbreviations sh and ch are still used in some other languages, like European French and Russian.

A Wop and a Kraut in the 18th century are attributed for the abbreviations 'SH'(IT), and 'CH'(IT), both used widely by stupid whites and stupid Mexican/Cubans to describe the taste of the end result of hyperbolic actions by the master banksters; and the end result of the economic situation currently experienced in the former United States (and, thusly, most of the so-called 'western world').

A WOP and a KRAUT.
I always wanted to learn European French, though (as described). Italian and German girls are usually too hairy to practice French on, personally. I could go on in this hyperbolic tangent for days...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbolic_function

Give me a whammy burger, a wham-shake, and some whammy-fries.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eREiQhBDIk

Hyper-fucking-BOLIC!

 

 

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 15:02 | 4586617 NoPantsSpongeBob
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She already confirmed it herself. Knowing how Russophobes are in the former USSR, I am not in the least surprised by her retoric. Funny how she speaks in Russian on the phone yet tweets in Ukrainian. Bloody two-faced sh*t-stirrer.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 17:15 | 4587253 Unknown User
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What is more surprising is the intellectual level at which they were discussing issues involving millions of people.  This is scary…

 

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 17:47 | 4587416 Paveway IV
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Psychopaths' don't converse at any intellectual level - they are either prying for information for use in a future scheme, or are projecting their dominance and superiority to the other person. There's no 'exchange of ideas' like there are in normal people's conversations.

Psychopaths are suppose to be scary. If they can't outright control you, then they want to be sure you're - at the very least - intimidated by them. Discomforting or not, Tymoshenko is absolutely delighted that this got out. Just like Putin would be delighted if one of his conversations about nuking millions of Ukrainians was ever leaked. Yes, of *course* he's had them. You would have to be naieve to believe otherwise. I'm sure he's laughing that Tymoshenko feels likewise but was clueless enough to get caught saying so.

 

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 18:25 | 4587609 Anusocracy
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Subhumans like the Dem congress critter that said they should kill them all at Waco?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 01:44 | 4588994 MontgomeryScott
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@ Paveway:

An important differentition between commonly used (and easily confused) terms is needed.

A 'PSYCHOPATH' doesn't listen to anyone but him-or-her-self, and is obsessed with it's own personal inner drive. HOWEVER, it still holds a 'conscience' (as tenuous as it is).

a 'SOCIOPATH', however, has NO conscience, and is therefore able to commit the most heinous of crimes without personal guilt or impunity.

The most evil, malevolant, and cruel human beings on the face of the earth to date are antipsycopathological sociopaths. They listen to anyone who tells them to kill whomever; and are not guided by any inner restrictions regarding these heinous and inhumanitarian actions.

Think Podhertz, Cheney, Pol Pot, Mao, Hitler, Lenin, Jack the Ripper, Idi Amin Dada, etcetera; when describing these.

Dr. Ruth says that you are suffering from 'father's penis syndrome', right about now.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 03:48 | 4589110 Paveway IV
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You remind me of the pathetic professors that tried to pound that into my head years ago. They had great difficulty describing a 'conscience'. I'm curious how you would do.

A sociopath doesn't care about the curtain or the mask - they're not ashamed of what they are. A psychopath is all about the curtain and the mask - it's all they are.

Your sophomoric definition of psychopath confuses 'conscience' with their concern about others percieved approval - or respect - for the curtain and mask. 

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 15:33 | 4586738 Libertarian777
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yet if Putin said the same (lets nuke the Ukrainians living in Crimea), John McStain and Kerry would DEMAND US troops be airdropped this afternoon on Crimea.

So, freedom for me, but not for thee?

1st amendment only applies when I talk but not when you talk?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 17:19 | 4587278 general ambivalent
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But he did say it, Putindolph is invading! (By the way it's been going it would seem that's what he said anyways.)

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:42 | 4586495 Lore
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@ Sam: Where then?  Offer something to show you're not just being dismissive.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:52 | 4586564 Fukushima Sam
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Saying this is kind of like saying that you're going to target all the blacks in New York with nuclear weapons; it makes no sense as a real strategy whatsoever, as all of New York would also be destroyed.

That is enough for me to be dismiss it as BS until I see a proper analysis of the audio, hopefully by someone in the public domain. But I doubt it will get that far because it sounds even more ridiculous than the idea that Building 7 collapsed due to fire.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 15:00 | 4586608 eurogold
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This woman must be killed ASAP!

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 15:31 | 4586730 RadioactiveRant
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I got something she can choke on.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 16:43 | 4587097 Winston Churchill
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Laughing at it ?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 16:59 | 4587171 eurogold
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This woman needs to choke on something for inciting more violance and disorder. She is bad !

 

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 15:27 | 4586715 silvermail
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New York is not the Crimea and Donetsk or Kharkiv, where more than 90% of Russian.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 16:03 | 4586859 Father Lucifer
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Hey SAM u Am your arguments are weak, better talk to your supervisor and get some better shit.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 16:34 | 4587054 DownByTheRiver
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lol he says he questions the authenticity of a known propaganda tool and you guys call him a shill for being skeptical....you. fucking. sheep.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 17:55 | 4587216 Terminus C
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The echo-chamber of the MSM is strong at the Hedge nowadays.  It is sad to think that when I first started reading this blog I would often skip the article and go right to the commentary as that was where the real shit was happening.  Now... not so much.

It is almost certainly a faked statement "the nuking bit" but go ahead sheople, run with it mindlessly.

Disclosure:  I in no way support the Ukrainian oligarch crooks any more than the Russian, American or any other oligarch crooks.  Fuck them all.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 16:38 | 4587060 crazzziecanuck
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Sort of.

First of all, this was a private phone call to some former official that was sent to jail for corruption with dealings with Russia. The state that enabled her to loot her own people.  Putin helped Little Miss Priviledge get rich.  But let's not discuss that.

She offered up an outlandish opinion that was clearly hyperbole.  The problem?  It starts to make simple things like forciable evacuations of minorities seem "moderate" in comparisson.

She should have also expected this would eventually be leaked in these days of NSA spying.  Then again, she has no downside for making comments like this.  It's not as if any Russian inside Ukraine would ever vote for her but it does allow her to potentially ciphon off votes of Svoboda types.  Assuming she tries to run again.

It's expected but these comments will never make the MSM because they were traditionally to enamoured with her and shaping her into Saint Yulia.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 18:18 | 4587573 TheReplacement
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Why would she plot to kill Russians with nuke when she doesn't have any nukes? 

On the other hand, we absolutely know for certain that the FSB does not have the ability to slice and dice recordings to alter the message.  We can also be sure they do not have any access to the internet where you can download commercial and open source voice synthynezation packages.  The possibility of this being faked is simply unpossible.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:38 | 4586476 CrashisOptimistic
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The only valid confirmation would be some Russian speakers on ZH comments.

One below expressed doubt.  Let's hear from more.

The LAST place I would believe confirmation is from the MSM.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 16:45 | 4587100 vie
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Considering the flow of the conversation (and general logistics of such an act), it sounds like a poorly translated rhetorical idiom, like "lets blow the bastards out of the water!"  Of course, everyone thought Hitler was just talking rhetoric about destroying Jews and aquiring territory through force... not taking him at face value didn't really turn out so well.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 16:52 | 4587137 DownByTheRiver
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hmmm well she doesn't have nukes, nor the ability to use any if she did, so...not the same thing?

 

 

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 18:23 | 4587601 Paveway IV
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She arranged for the U.S. to help her get a slightly used, freshly repainted 777 to secretly deliver something somewhere. Maybe it was for of those missing W-83 2MT warheads from Dyess the U.S. was going to use on Charleston. The only thing incredible about this scenario is the very unlikely timing where future President Hillary would not get to startt the party. She's been dying to nuke *someone* since way before Benghazi.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 19:42 | 4587928 Global Hunter
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I suspect that her rhetoric is designed to try and gain support of the neo nazis who are the muscle behind the current parliament and to get that muscle behind her political bid to be president.

Which is a scary thought, mainstream Uke politicians are courting neo nazis

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 01:30 | 4588979 Volkodav
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she is capable of any evil...

and finished more than you know about already

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 06:26 | 4589212 Pseudonymous
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I understand Russian somewhat and just wrote my interpretation of the whole recording and some important notes (like that it plainly says that there are parts deliberately removed from the recording) on the last page of comments, comment #4589205 here:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-24/ukraine-leader-new-leaked-recording-8-million-russians-ukraine-must-be-killed-nuclea?page=2#comment-4589205

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:59 | 4586598 Canadian Dirtlump
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would confirmation by the satanic invalid tymoshenko via twitter work? LOL

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 18:19 | 4587578 TheReplacement
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Do you include her denial of the nuke portion of the conversation or is that a cherry not to be picked?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 16:48 | 4587118 Berspankme
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I'm gonna wait for confirmation from those bastions of independent journalism like CNN, MSNBC, and Fox

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 17:05 | 4587196 giggler321
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>>We all know that RT is a Russian propaganda tool, right?

Yer but MH370 their delivery mechanism was real

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 18:06 | 4587505 TheReplacement
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Yes, it would be good to get a confirmation from an independent source for the transcription and translation of that video.  All I know from watching and listening to it is what the words on the screen said.  Those words were typed by a 3rd party.  Still, it does look bad unless you listen to the end.  At that point the hyperbole is exposed as they resolve to take the criminals to the Hague (UN).  Taking someone to court is a whole world away from nuking them.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 18:44 | 4587698 vic and blood
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Your kind argued to bomb the Serbs into the stone age. You argued for war in Afghanistan and Iraq. You were all for the Libya intervention. Then Syria. Whose side are you on, shill?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 20:39 | 4588162 vic and blood
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You don't seek confirmation. You won't admit that you were wrong about Nuland. You will deny this, as well, until it blows over. You don't want the truth because you have an agenda. Don't pretend to be a truthseeker.

Your pals in Ukraine will rape, murder, provoke, and commit hideous atrocities until the decent Russian people can't stand it anymore. When the Russians act, out of their humanity, you will have the war that you seek so desperately.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 06:18 | 4589204 Lebensphilosoph
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How about her own Twitter page referenced in the article, you goddamned idiot?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:27 | 4586415 Ignatius
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How many bitcoins is the prize worth these days?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:36 | 4586466 fonestar
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100 BTC in 2014.

0.100 BTC in 2017.

Prizeflation is a bitch.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 18:12 | 4587527 RevRex
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DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYUMMMMMMMMMMMM.....I just up ararowed Phonestar!!!!!.....errrr Phonestore.....um Fonestar.....

 

 

 

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:24 | 4586394 toys for tits
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Putin doesn't have to wait until harm comes to ethnic russians in Ukraine.

He'll be the hero now because he prevented a genocide and ethnic cleansing.

Snowden changed the world by demonstrating how pervasive the electronic spying is.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 18:35 | 4587654 Paveway IV
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Stalin killed maybe 5.5 million Ukrainians - give or take - in 1932. Putin would like nothing more than a good reason to finish the job Stalin started. He could care less about being a humanitarian hero.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 23:22 | 4588755 dogbreath
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you know this how??

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 04:21 | 4589128 Paveway IV
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Seriously, you never heard of the Holomodor? When Stalin welcomed Ukraine into the warm and fuzzy USSR, he told the Ukrainian farmers that they no longer were allowed to own their farms. The farms and everything on it now belonged to the Soviet Union and they would farm to meet quotas 'for the people'. The Ukrainians were reluctant  so Stalin hired a thug army to beat them into the light. The most rebellious and their families were put on trains and taken to Siberia - a masive open-air concentration camp - where a good million or so died from starvation or disease. That wasn't working well enough. so Stalin designated all Ukrainian crops for export (under the oversight of the occupying Soviet troops). The forced famine in 'the Ukraine' from 1932-33 easily killed four million Ukrainians. Stalin backfilled dead farmers by importing much more productive live Russian Soviets. 

This was all pretty much ignored by the Western press at the time - big U.S. corporations were on the eve of signing huge industrial contracts with Stalin for tractors and stuff.

Disclaimer: Israel gets absolutely furious when anyone suggests there ever was a genocide that rivaled the Holocaust. They acknoledge the Holomodor happened, but scoff at the idea that it rivaled their unimaginable suffering or that it's even worthy of mention. 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 06:13 | 4589200 Gavrikon
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Yes, Stalin was a Georgian bastard.  But you did not support your contention that President Putin wants to "finish the job."

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 09:37 | 4589667 dogbreath
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exactly   +1

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:38 | 4586475 DeadFred
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If this is misinformation you would think we'd be hearing a lot of denials. <silence> They broke the encryption on our phone and we have no idea how much they know about our plans. It's a huge event to let the other side know you're reading their mail so Putin's not letting this stuff out except as part of a master plan. He's driving the bus and the West is scrambling. I dislike Putin but hope he puts the Western clowns to shame. I really hope he does it without any radioactive clouds.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 15:05 | 4586625 Mercuryquicksilver
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Putin gamed Cameron, Obama and the rest of the West's Best ..... HARD!  No doubt the Kremlin knew of Obama's plans for Ukrain long ago. Putin must be laughing his ass off right now.  The US military spends more than the next 12 largest countries and still gets played like a fool.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 18:21 | 4587591 TheReplacement
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Do you suppose that they aren't better technologically but have a mole or two in the, what is it now, 1 million top security clearance holding employees and contractors in the US?  Perhaps it is 3 million, if you ask the Fed there really is no difference.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 18:47 | 4587713 jerry_theking_lawler
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It's not how much you spend....it's what you get for the money you do spend....and here we get MIC inefficiencies.....probably on par with Russia/China spending.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 15:08 | 4586645 Herd Redirectio...
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Like the story of radar use (and eavesdropping) in WWII...

"Do we scramble fighters because we know a squadron of bombers is on its way, or do we not scramble fighters, because if we do, they will know we intercept their communications?"

So they tried to find a 'middle ground' where  a fighter escort would 'coincidentally' spot the bomber squadron, and then fighters would be scrambled...

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 16:41 | 4587070 DownByTheRiver
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not misinfo...disinfo. 

what does she have to gain by admitting to it if it's true?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 09:43 | 4589692 dogbreath
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She needs to maintain her street cred just like the undercover who infiltrates a biker gang.   At some point the west ukranians will be thrown under the bus, but in the mean time her image as a professional victim and mother of all ukranians will be maintained.

Both her and her spawn have black hard eyes

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:39 | 4586484 beaglebog
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Timoshenko has admitted, on Twitter, that the conversation is genuine.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 17:59 | 4587468 Terminus C
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but denied the nuking part...

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 18:22 | 4587593 JuliaS
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She said "atomic weapons". She never said "nukes".

 

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 16:43 | 4587096 Ifigenia
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and a book about mossad tecnique too, because it could be them trying to put others to fight

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 18:14 | 4587541 11b40
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so far, looks like most disinformation is coming from the US.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 18:41 | 4587684 Landrew
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I smell an O'Bummer troll?

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:14 | 4586344 0b1knob
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< Yulia has more balls than Obama.

< Reggie Love just LOVES chocolate salty nuts.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:25 | 4586404 McMolotov
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It's too bad, cause I think she's got sort of a MILF-y thing going on, but this just pushed her well below the Vicky Mendoza Diagonal on the Hot/Crazy scale.

http://images1.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Hot-Crazy-Scale-how-i-met...

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:37 | 4586474 pods
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Who knew Princess Leia was such a cold, heartless bitch?

pods

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:46 | 4586538 Tim_
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The lesson from Ukraine: Bezplatno does not exist


"How many of those demonstrating in Kiev and cheering that Timoshenko female (why does she wear that stupid wig? and what's with the wheelchair?) remember why she was thrown into jail?"

"It would come as no surprise if that Timoshenko female miraculously rose from her wheelchair, allowing that blonde wig to fall to the ground and reveal a head bedecked with unkempt black hair (rather a different spectacle and a somewhat sinister one), proclaiming to all and sundry that the Euro Show is the way to go."

"As I write, President Yanukovich is still the democratically elected President of the Ukraine and there exists something called law and order. Not all Ukrainians are in Kiev, not all Ukrainians side with the starry-eyed youth on Euro-Maidan and the monsters hiding in their midst."

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 18:11 | 4587524 TheReplacement
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Apparently the constitutionally elected representatives in Ukraine disagree with you.  Apparently virtually nobody else in Ukraine seems to agree with  you either - there is no counter uprising.  The people are not streaming into Kiev to demonstrate. 

Huh.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 22:52 | 4588681 Mine Is Bigger
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We will have to wait and see, but I think the Ukrainian military will overthrow the Kiev government before things go too far.  The way I see it, that would be the least bloddy solution out of the mess.  They will have to hold a nationl election soon and set up a government based on pupular vote before the country falls apart.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 22:57 | 4588696 BearClaw
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No, right now they're holding referendums in their own regions to separate themselves from the fascist scum in Kiev. Once that process is completed however they might start streaming into Kiev, so please be patient.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 06:48 | 4589234 Freddie
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She has really dark brown eyes almost black like a f**king ghoul in some horror movie.  She is a monster like the rest of the monsters who started this and the oligarch billionaires with dual citizenship.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 16:11 | 4586925 mvsjcl
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Psychopaths all speak the same language.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 17:40 | 4587380 Kirk2NCC1701
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That's her evil cousin:  Princess Slaya.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:50 | 4586558 0b1knob
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As far as MILFs go she sure has Kirchner or (shudder) Hillary Clinton beat out.  Hillary looks like she fell out of the old/ugly tree face first and hit every limb on the way down.  As far as crazy goes there is an old saying:  Crazy in the head equals crazy in the bed.  Or maybe its:  Red on the head equals crazy in the bed.  Redundant since all red heads are crazy anyway.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 15:11 | 4586651 Blues Traveler
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crazy in bed crazy in head

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 15:21 | 4586688 Herd Redirectio...
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Tymoshenko is a brunette. 

Aah... Some people.  They will change their name, change their identity itself, if it will benefit them sufficiently.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 06:53 | 4589238 Freddie
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She has dark brown eyes that are almost black like a f**king ghoul in a horror movie.  Brown eyed natural blondes do not exist.  She is as phony and as evil as Yats.  The Ukrianian Army should overthrow and arrest these frauds plus the oligarchs and take back their country.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 16:44 | 4587104 BlindMonkey
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Down vote just because you used Hillary.  And MILF.  In the same sentence.  Don't ever do that again.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 15:23 | 4586697 Tall Tom
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< Yulia has more balls than Obama.

< Reggie Love just LOVES chocolate salty nuts.

 

Both are true. There is no option for choosing both damn it.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:19 | 4586363 Ignatius
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Zugzwang: (German) You move, you lose.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:11 | 4586320 Eos
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As a native speaker of russian/ukrainian I can say that the part about the Nukes is either fake or "accidentally" this particular part was recorded with a toilet-sound quality. Tyler do you work for Putin? :-)

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 14:29 | 4586421 Missiondweller
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Not to mention that Ukraine nolonger has any nukes! They gave them up in agreement that Russia would respect their territitial integrity.

 

Zerohedge is now in the twighlight zone. They're beginning to look like agents of Putin or a division of RT.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 16:46 | 4587108 caconhma
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Yulia Tymoshenko is a Jew. Zero-Hedge "forgot" to mention it.

Mon, 03/24/2014 - 16:56 | 4587160 Tracerfan
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She is not a Jew, she is half Ukrainian and half Latvian.

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