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Russia Prepares Mega-Deal With India After Locking Up China With "Holy Grail" Gas Deal

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Last week we reported that while the West was busy alienating Russia in every diplomatic way possible, without of course exposing its crushing overreliance on Russian energy exports to keep European industries alive, Russia was just as busy cementing its ties with China, in this case courtesy of Europe's most important company, Gazprom, which is preparing to announce the completion of a "holy grail" natural gas supply deal to Beijing. We also noted the following: "And as if pushing Russia into the warm embrace of the world's most populous nation was not enough, there is also the second most populated country in the world, India." Today we learn just how prescient this particular comment also was, when Reuters reported that Rosneft, the world's top listed oil producer by output, may join forces with Indian state-run Oil and Natural Gas Corp to supply oil to India over the long term, the Russian state-controlled company said on Tuesday.

Rosneft CEO Igor Sechin, an ally of President Vladimir Putin, travelled to India on Sunday, part of a wider Asian trip to shore up ties with eastern allies at a time when Moscow is being shunned by the West over its annexation of Crimea.


With EU nations threatening to cut their reliance on Russian oil and gas, Russian officials have started to look East.


Rosneft said it had also agreed with ONGC they may join forces in Rosneft's yet-to-be built liquefied natural gas plant in the far east of Russia to the benefit of Indian consumers.

We just have one question: will payment for crude and LNG be made in Rubles or Rupees? Or in gold. Because it certainly won't be in dollars.

Rosneft, which is increasing oil flows to Asia to diversify away from Europe, did not provide any additional details but said it had discussed potential cooperation with Reliance Industries and Indian Oil.

It did not have to: it is quite clear what is going on. While the US is bumbling every possible foreign policy move in Ukraine (and how could it not with John Kerry at the helm), and certainly in the middle east, where it is alienating Israel and Saudi just to get closer to Iran, Russia is aggressively cementing the next, biggest (certainly in terms of population and natural resources), and most important New Normal geopolitical Eurasian axis: China - Russia - India.


The company said Sechin and the head of Indian conglomerate Reliance Industries also met and discussed potential cooperation in developing Russia's offshore resources, viewed by Moscow as a source of future oil production growth.


India was the last country in Sechin's Asian trip, where he also visited Japan, South Korea and Vietnam.


Russia is the world's top oil producer, pumping over 10 million barrels per day but mostly from west Siberian deposits, which are running out. Moscow is betting on offshore and unconventional oil to maintain the level.


At the same time, Russia is trying to diversify its energy flows away from its core European markets, with Rosneft leading the race with plans to triple oil flows to China to over 1 million barrels per day in coming years.


Rosneft said Sechin also discussed potential shipments of Russia's East Siberia-Pacific Ocean (ESPO) oil blend to India's biggest refiner Indian Oil Corporation (IOC.NS) but did not provide details.

There is only one country missing - Germany. Because while diplomatically Germany is ideologically as close to the US as can be, its economy is far more reliant on China and Russia, something the two nations realize all too well.  The second the German industrialists make it clear they are shifting their allegiance to the Eurasian Axis and away from the Group of 6 (ex Germany) most insolvent countries in the world, that will be the moment the days of the current reserve petrocurrency will be numbered.


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Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:38 | 4590172 NemoDeNovo
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LOL here comes the #Boom


Won't be long now, I Hope so tired of this game............

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:40 | 4590190 Diet Coke and F...
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I am sooo fucking sick of the term "Holy Grail" in articles. Smells like MSM marketing.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:42 | 4590206 Pladizow
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Putin: Go frack your self America!

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:49 | 4590251 TahoeBilly2012
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Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:52 | 4590268 Manthong
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And a seriously troubled Barry’O in Brussels solemnly asks, “Where is the closest private golf course?”.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:54 | 4590286 ParkAveFlasher
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Quick, somebody crash a plane!!!

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:00 | 4590312 orangedrinkandchips
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it's min or so the "ppt" comes in......


just wait it out....


Fed will pump it back up soon.....

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:16 | 4590384 Fortunate Fool
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"The second the German industrialists make it clear they are shifting their allegiance to the Eurasian Axis and away from the Group of 6 (ex Germany) most insolvent countries in the world, that will be the moment the days of the current reserve petrocurrency will be numbered."


ZH seems to be mathematically challenged... Germany's biggest trading partners are in Europe, France being its biggest. The analysis is partly right, but it's not just Germany that is shifting to the East, it's the entire EU. Again, Russia can't survive economically without Europe, and Europe will still need Russia's Gas in the forseable future.

Once all the political posturing over Ukraine ends (see how Europe has been much more measured in its threats than the US...), what's going to happen is a grand bargain between Russia, the EU, China, maybe India, and Brazil to redefine the world order in which the US will see its already diminishing inluence being reduced further more, with the final goal of indeed ending the US dollar as the world's reserve currency. This geopolitical shifts have been happening for a long time and nothing is new here. The new "multipolar world" has been theorized in Europe decades ago.

Thinking that Russia would give up Europe's market for India is laughable, to say the least. 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:30 | 4590432 Vampyroteuthis ...
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These are the old diplomatic ties that existed during the cold war between the Soviet Union and her neighbors. Putin is using the cover in the Ukraine to restart these ties minus the US and EU. This does not mean Russia will drop the EU, it does mean they are expanding into markets unimpeded by the majors. Major western oil and gas companies are now getting a serious competitor for the developing markets.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:35 | 4590447 Herd Redirectio...
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Leverage means not depending 100% on ANY SINGLE player.  So Russia dealing with India/China is not to replace their other trade partners, but to 'spread it around'.   Look at the US' crude oil imports.

They get it from AT LEAST 3 different primary sources, so that Canada doesn't have leverage, Saudi doesn't have leverage, Mexico and Venezuela...

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:45 | 4590492 johnQpublic
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we have always been at war with Eurasia

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:48 | 4590508 Bastiat
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Putin to the US: Go pound shale.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 13:00 | 4590563 Occident Mortal
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The new world order...



Tue, 03/25/2014 - 13:21 | 4590698 Poundsand
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Or of course, go Pound 'tar' sands.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:59 | 4590559 Chupacabra-322
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To be paid "traded " in GLD.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 13:12 | 4590640 rubiconsolutions
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"To be paid "traded " in GLD."

Wrong. GLD is an EFT. It will traded in AU. As in physical medal. Russia won't have any part in paper gold. "Show me the bricks"

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:36 | 4590440 Drifter
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Hmmmm..... sounds like that new asian alliance is forming up rather nicely.

And gosh, look how many have nuclear weapons.  And lots of gold.

Germany won't join it, it's not german mentality to join it, but they will part ways with EU and launch their own currency.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 13:09 | 4590619 Hobbleknee
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Germany is joined to the US military bases that occupy it.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 13:14 | 4590648 Crash Overide
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Putin: Check.

Obama: Where am I supposed to move my pawn again?


It seems like an organized transfer of international power to keep it all going, the game must go on...

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 18:11 | 4591916 MeelionDollerBogus
Tue, 03/25/2014 - 13:05 | 4590588 Ghordius
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excellent comment, Fortunate Fool

further, Tyler, "while the West was busy alienating Russia in every diplomatic way possible" The West? All of it? or mainly the western part of the West?

oh, and by the way, Poland is a way bigger friend of the US than Germany will ever be

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 15:37 | 4591354 Againstthelie
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Interesting analysis but it has one weakness:

You assume that Merkel and the German regime was following Germany's interests.

Merkel openly said several times: this German state's reason is the support of Israel.

Merkel just received the highest Israeli civilian medal (she built up the Jew Klitschko in their Zionist Konrad-Adenauer-Stiftung).


I have another example, to make it more clear:

Is Obama's foreign policy in the interests of the USA? Was Bush's foreign policy in the interests of the USA? NO! It's AIPAC's foreign policy.

And they give a sh.t if they destroy the countries they control. These alien forces do not care about the nations they control. They only use them, exploit them. Using cattle and doing god's work!

Therefore a ZOG-Germany will NEVER turn away from USrael. Even if the German economy would be destroyed by Merkel's stupid and anti-German foreign policy.

And btw, it is rumored that Merkel is Jewish (Kamirczak).

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 16:07 | 4591496 Arrowshot
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Thats OK. We will still have Mexico, Venzuela, Cuba and Puerto Rico as potential allies. sarc/

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 18:13 | 4591934 MeelionDollerBogus
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Except they're doing it and they're the ones laughing while Europe is wondering how to keep the heat on.
Evidence suggests you've overlooked something.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:01 | 4590319 Oh regional Indian
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Trouble with gas is that the current infra is too damn vulnerable to to many human and geological and geopolitical problems. 

They have to do something different from pipelines.


Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:07 | 4590341 Herd Redirectio...
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Liquified gas tankers, probably.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:11 | 4590353 Oh regional Indian
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I think JP Morgue or someone has commisioned a Baloon LNG tanker...saw it here some years ago. Huge baloon being towed on a platform ship.


But yes, something different.



Tue, 03/25/2014 - 13:01 | 4590564 johnQpublic
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what happens when that rapidly decompresses?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 13:03 | 4590575 Rory_Breaker
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ORI, saw your TED talk, great stuff man!

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 14:46 | 4591149 Oh regional Indian
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Thanks Rory, good to know :-)

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:28 | 4590427 cossack55
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I hear the Russians have hired Zippo to design their new class of torpedo.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:36 | 4590449 CrashisOptimistic
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FYI, LNG requires effort to create it.  Freezing and pressure.

Then after you have it, it starts to warm up (even if insulated) and turn back into gas.

In other words, LNG has losses enroute anywhere. 

There is no magic.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:48 | 4590506 Herd Redirectio...
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Yeah, well, if your choices are shipping out of Vladivostok, and having inefficiencies, OR trying to get a pipeline built through Central Asia....

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:14 | 4590368 ILLILLILLI
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Wireless pipelines...because, you know, the Internet is a series of tubes.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 18:31 | 4592000 MeelionDollerBogus
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Bloombox turns nat-gas into electric power & beams it wirelessly to a receiving coil. I think all wired grids could be replaced with such induction coils.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:11 | 4590339 Chuck Walla
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Who Cares! Obama and the Socialist Progressives say we can put our energy reliance on the weather! Oil, so last century.






Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:13 | 4590361 Oh regional Indian
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You are good Chuck, always chuckle at your posts. Even if you made that german up...

Forward indeed!


Tue, 03/25/2014 - 13:06 | 4590598 mccvilb
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AHA! That explains it! Couldn't understand how or when I picked up a second  language.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 13:03 | 4590573 BlindMonkey
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"Quick, somebody crash a plane!!!"


Speaking of planes: I wonder if they will be able to bring Brazil along.  IMO the way to do that would be to include Brazil in the tech and manufacturing of the PAK-FA 5th gen fighter.  Either as a manufacturing partner or under license.  

I don't know if they can back out of the SAAB deal but Russia would certainly Brazilian wax the smile off of the EU if they took that deal.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 14:02 | 4590931 Freddie
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Is Sweden even in the EU? I know they are not in the Euro.  Too smart for that shit.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:59 | 4590548 tempo
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Frac gas is the most expensive leftover crumbs. Five years from now the nightmare cleanup from 100,000+++ depleted wells will be all to obvious. Most frac gas wells decline 30% per year and are not economic. They are only profitable to the initial promoters who are getting out. Its only deserving that the EU will end up w the most expensive and declining gas source in the world while China and India are ramping up industrial production. The US dollar as a reserve currency and our standard of living will be gone.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 16:57 | 4591690 Tom_333
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It´s kinda neat though. Export the manufacturing industry to Chindia. Suck the US dry with cheap imports. Then fill the energy demands of said giant manufacturing complex with energy from that huge country that you are trying to sanction with feeble economic measures.So that the energy exporter can thrive on the exported financial affluence from the country that divested itself of manufcturing capability. I am at loss how to find words to best define the situation...cock-sucker by proxy. Maybe.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:43 | 4590208 SWRichmond
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we need either a new government or NO government

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:48 | 4590240 JR
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It's going to be bye-bye dollar, isn't it?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 13:08 | 4590612 Tall Tom
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Yes.  It is the best news of the day.


Americans are losing Dollar Hegemony.


The Empire is collapsing. The neo-Dark Ages are on their way.


The entire Globe will be shocked.


America will go into a hyperinflationary inferno, deservedly so, as it loses World Reserve Currency status. The State will collapse.


Yes...Slowly at first then all of a sudden. There are none so deserving. After waging war on a World for the past 40 years, after murdering millions of children, after destroying many other people, they will reap that which they have sown.


What the control freaks do not understand is that more control yields more chaos as it is an expression of the fear of loss.


More freedom yields more order as it is the finest expression of love.


To gain one need to lose the illusion of control and give freedom. But the psychopaths never understand that. They worship the state, which is only a state of chaos, confusion, and fear.


God's justice will prevail as God is Love.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 14:08 | 4590960 Freddie
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And all the dual citizens will have their jets waiting to leave the USA after they have destroyed it.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 15:44 | 4591404 Franktastic
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They will be hunted the dogs of war that they are.


Tue, 03/25/2014 - 15:48 | 4591413 Tall Tom
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And people may just be shooting them down on takeoff at the regional airports...


They only have to target the engines.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:50 | 4590259 Quus Ant
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I vote no federal govt. 

No elected official should be beyond gun.... err... I mean earshot.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:43 | 4590214 Divided States ...
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the BRIC countries should be renamed BREAK countries because they will soon BREAK the powers currently held by the West.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:49 | 4590245 dontgoforit
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This is questionable.  The U.S. may have just created larger market for its natural gas & 'new-found' fracked-up oil surplus.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:50 | 4590258 TahoeBilly2012
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Where will our drinking water come from? Don't burp while smoking.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:56 | 4590293 SilverRhino
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There's this really cool place called the Great Lakes. 


Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:09 | 4590344 Herd Redirectio...
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There's also the 'Land of 10,000 Lakes', Manitoba, and of course, the Northwest Territories, which 98% have never heard of, is mostly freshwater lakes (frozen most of the year).

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:10 | 4590349 Herd Redirectio...
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edit:  Apparently Minnesota is '10,000 Lakes'.  Manitoba, just to the north is "Land of 100,000 Lakes".  I stand corrected.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 17:49 | 4591882 HyperinflatmyNutts
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Drink this water America all the fresh water you want..  NO THANKS!


In Great Lakes States: America’s Growing Cancer Alley, we analyze the
information on the top 10 cancer-causing polluters in each Great Lakes state for
1995.  We contacted each polluter and asked them what they make, why they use these
chemicals, and what they are doing to clean them up.

We name the Cancer Dirty Dozen, the top cancer polluters in the Great Lakes
region, which are: British Petroleum of Lima, Ohio, Kodak of Rochester, New
York, G. E. Plastics of Mount Vernon, Indiana and Ottawa, Illinois, Pharmacia and
Upjohn C o. of Portage, Michigan, Flexible Foam Products, Elkhart, Indiana, General
Foam Corp, Bridgeview, Illinois, Foamex of Elkhart, Indiana, Tomkins Industry
of Three Rivers, Michigan, Ford Electronics of Connersville, Indiana, Stone
Container of Coxhocton, Ohio, and NO-SAG Foam of West Chicago, Illinois.

Indiana is most polluted state in the Great Lakes region and third in the
nation with 15.5 million pounds of cancer-causing pollution, or 2.6 pounds of
pollution per person. Followed by Ohio, Illinois, and Pennsylvania — all rank in
the top six nationally. Minnesota was the cleanest state in the Great Lakes
region with only 3.3 million pounds of cancer-causing pollution.

Texas leads the nation in total cancer-causing pollution with 27.6 million pounds in 1995.

Great Lakes states dump almost one-third of all cancer chemicals in the
county, according to a study by the Environmental Information Center last year.
There is mounting evidence that toxic pollution is causing cancer and other
heal the problems, especially in children.  New research on child-cancer
published in the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health shows a significant link between child cancer and cancer-causing chemical pollution from large industrial facilities, oil plants, steel plants, highways and airports.


Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:26 | 4590420 alangreedspank
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Most province have crapload of lakes. Northern Ontario, Northern Quebec, etc.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 13:10 | 4590605 BlindMonkey
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"There's also the 'Land of 10,000 Lakes', Manitoba, and of course, the Northwest Territories, which 98% have never heard of, is mostly freshwater lakes (frozen most of the year)."


Cool.  Bring the popcorn.  I got the movie:

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:23 | 4590365 Quus Ant
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The great lakes have enough water for 300 million- let alone 7 billion- to live at current comsumption levels?  Can I still wash my car?  Water my lawn?

oh, thank the maker- I was just starting to consider, possibly in the future getting modestly concerned. 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:37 | 4590456 Herd Redirectio...
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Water doesn't get used up.  It gets polluted, and the water cycle means its not all available 100% of the time.  But yeah, the Great Lakes, Minnesota, Manitoba, Northwest Territories, there is enough fresh water there for 300m at current consumption levels.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:43 | 4590480 Quus Ant
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Awesome.  And you can pump this water out to me in California?  Who will be in charge of that?  And speaking of charge, what will they be charging for this water?  And who gets first dibs? 

Water doesn't get used up, but there are costs associated with purifying, packaging and distributing it. 

And speaking of it not being available all the time- I was just in Tahoe and the ski runs are pitiful. 

While the tap is running everyone remains friendly, but old granny will fight you to the death for that last drip.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 13:01 | 4590565 cro_maat
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Quus Ant - If you want to grow things, live where there is water.  Here is an educational video from Sam Kinison:


Tue, 03/25/2014 - 13:07 | 4590609 Quus Ant
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thanks, CroMaat.  Love Kinison.  I saw Ben Gleib this past weekend and he did a great set. 

As far as moving- not an option.  I have family and friends here and if we go down we go together. 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 13:23 | 4590714 cro_maat
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Quus Ant - Sorry to hear. I would recommend a greenhouse with vertical plantings, rain water capture and recycling grey water from the home to provide fertilizer. This works even in some of the most extreme drought conditions (provided your tank storage was filled before the drought).

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 13:27 | 4590730 Quus Ant
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I'm in northern california, thankfully.  Those poor saps in the valley are content not to breathe, perhaps they'll be content not to drink either.

thank you for the suggestions.  So much to do.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 18:37 | 4592014 MeelionDollerBogus
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I guess that's how a lot of people feel. I'm glad i'm the other way: any place any time, not locked down and I will follow the path of survival.
Friends ought to be smart enough to follow given the consequences of what comes from having no water. Water is life.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 13:05 | 4590590 Herd Redirectio...
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If getting water to the people is too difficult or costly, the people will get to the water.

Like the Gold Rushes back in the day, except now it'll be a Water Rush?  I.E.  People may not be able to live cost effectively in Phoenix, SoCal, NM, if water scarcity becomes a major concern.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 13:12 | 4590639 Quus Ant
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So there is more to it than just: "We have lots of water in some lakes." 

It would mean a total upheaval of all life- curiously animals and plants tend to congrigate around water as well.  Even those close to the water would see their lives turned upside down by the new influx of thirsty neighbors.


Or... we could be better stewards of our resources and realize fracking is short term thinking.  Instead of turning up the ng heat just put on a sweater like momma used to tell you.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 18:36 | 4592012 MeelionDollerBogus
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True, and use better insulation, and start extracting water from the air. Dewpointe.
Not 'cheap' but it's an option. May be less expensive with less filtering & a more humid environment.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:49 | 4590515 frenzic
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Makes me think of these lines by Lou Reed (from the album New York the song is called Last Great American Whale)

Well, Americans don't care for much of anything
Land and water, the least
And animal life is low on the totem pole
With human life not worth more than infected yeast

Americans don't care too much for beauty
They'll shit in a river, dump battery acid in a stream
They'll watch dead rats wash up on the beach
Complain if they can't swim

They say things are done for the majority
Don't believe half of what you see and none of what you hear
It's like what my painter friend Donald said to me
"Stick a fork in their ass and turn them over, they're done"


Tue, 03/25/2014 - 14:27 | 4590539 Quus Ant
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I think it's tangential to belief in an all powerful, ever watchful, bonevolent sky god. 

Fuck the water.  Fuck the land.  We're gointo be fine 'cause god's got our back.

Those fine, god fearing folk on Easter Island thought along the same lines.

Add in those who think they ARE gods and can fix any eventuality and we're off to the races.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:56 | 4590295 dontgoforit
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Or fart.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:59 | 4590301 BLOTTO
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Does Rossetta Stone teach Russian and Chinese?


Time to look at learning a 3rd and 4th language...

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:32 | 4590436 Hogdodge
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Don't smoke. Bad for your health.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:00 | 4590311 CrashisOptimistic
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You do realize the US imports 7 million barrels of oil every single day?

What exactly do you think surplus means?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:30 | 4590434 cossack55
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Old army shit?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:46 | 4590495 Matt
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But the shale boom is going to continue growing output each year at 1 million barrels per day, indefinitely, right? I mean, the shale oil must be created abiotically and the shale wells just fill up as fast as you let it gush out, right?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:50 | 4590517 Flakmeister
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Something like that....

It'll all work out in the end...

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:39 | 4590460 Jack Burton
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2 years and 7 weeks. Right in the window of State Department trolls. Just asking, why 20 trolls joined within 7 weeks of each other??????????????????????????

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 13:17 | 4590668 dontgoforit
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Burton - you're a troll?  What's your bridge?  I started checking out ZH when a neighbor told me about it - just so you'll know - the only time I ever worked for the govt was when they drafted my ass in 1969 so fuck off asshole.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 14:41 | 4591040 Flakmeister
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I don;t care who you worked for, you clearly know SFA about US hydrocarbon production....

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:52 | 4590267 Stoploss
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Stick a fork in the Eurozone..


Buh Bye.......

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:47 | 4590496 robertsgt40
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"...alienating Israel.." should be our #1 priority.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 13:05 | 4590591 sangell
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ZH's version of it even though Russian energy companies are so thoroughly looted they may end up like PDVSA and PEMEX national oil companies that cannot meet their long term contractual obligations because they invest nothing to keep production going after everyone has taken their cut of revenue.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:54 | 4590283 Snidley Whipsnae
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"We just have one question: will payment for crude and LNG be made in Rubles or Rupees? Because it certainly won't be in dollars."

Tyler, don't forget possible settlement in gold... which the Indians citizens have lots of... The number that I have seen quoted most often is 18,000 tons and I don't know if that includes the temple gold.

Recently the Indian gov has made several comments about loosening the curbs on gold importation.


Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:03 | 4590323 CrashisOptimistic
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Gold has no function in Russian society.  They will be paid in whatever they want, probably domestic slave labor, indirectly.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:21 | 4590400 Herd Redirectio...
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Yes, I am sure Russian women HATE gold rings, necklaces, earrings....

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:27 | 4590425 Osmium
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But how do Russian women feel about pearl necklaces?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:32 | 4590438 Snidley Whipsnae
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HR... perhaps crashisoptomistic believes that the nature of women change when the Russian border is crossed.

I have never seen a bride given a fiat paper ring at her wedding... regardless of country.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:40 | 4590464 CrashisOptimistic
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Jewelry is not a function.  It's like a painting.  Or a sculpture.  It has value only in the minds of the parties involved in a transaction.

There are no gold assay kits under any cash registers.  There likely never will be.  It has no function in society.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:24 | 4590415 Snidley Whipsnae
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"Gold has no function in Russian society."

Gold has functioned as money in Russia in the past just as it has in almost every country in the world.

In fact at one time platinum rubles circulated in Russia as well as gold and silver... not many countries have had platinum coinage.

Below is a link to a platinum 3 Rouble coin from 1844...

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:36 | 4590452 Meat Hammer
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His name was Petro Dollar.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:41 | 4590470 Herd Redirectio...
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Obligatory: " In death, a member of Project Mayhem has a name."

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 13:13 | 4590643 Philalethian
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"LOL here comes the #Boom"

Where in Russia, they prepare to do good business. In America, the business is preparing the country for yet another govt/mosad sponsored false flag event to use as the excuse to close down the country, suspend all common law, and implement the planned prepared for martial law, or the law of the gun. How a stupid nation of sheep can sit idly by on the train tracks watching the approaching speeding train headed right at them in such a stupor of ignorance, is just astonishing. it is a group suicide and ignorance is the weapon of the globalists that have long planned everything that is happening. When they start telegraphing what is coming, people better pray and prepare for the worst.

May God have mercy on us all for ignorantly allowing our own demise to rise up into the places of power and leadership. May God forgive us all for being so collectively stupid in letting this beast kill and murder day after day, while doing nothing at all to stop it. The US military is about run down, the foreign troops are in place and soon, that false flag event will trigger the final fall into the chaos they want so badly. Enjoy every breath of freedom while you can. For most life on the plant, life is short. The tombstone for earth reads: Here lies a formerly advanced civilization. It is extinct now due to it's own ignorance of the evil that blatantly killed them all, even those that helped it all happen.


Tue, 03/25/2014 - 16:16 | 4591530 MeelionDollerBogus
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the kind of faith, lack of intellectual analysis, that leads to religion may very well be responsible for the same ignorance that has people so unable today to see a day ahead & avoid the obvious damage.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 16:14 | 4591520 MeelionDollerBogus
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Scotch-soaked popcorn. I call it scotchkorn(tm).
Helps pass the time as the moves are made.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:46 | 4590178 falak pema
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About Rosneft read this new development in Maggie's oligarchy farm which is making Cameron's City  shitty  : 

Les oligarques russes menacés, la City tremble

The Chindia Axis with Russia will require fence mending between China and India to be sustainable. Big past issue.

One other big issue is to get Turkmen gas to India via Afghan/pakistan knowing that the US controls Turkmen and Afghan/pak political scene. (All those CIA bases). 

So for this axis to work it will have to replace US influence in the Central Asian region STRETCHING FROM THE CASPIAN TO CHINA (SILK ROUTE) AND THRU KHYBER TO PAKISTAN AND INDIA. (OBVIOUSLY WITH THE COOPERATION OF IRAN).


Where is Gunga Din to hoist the Union Jack ? 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:49 | 4590252 Canadian Dirtlump
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The concept of the West fomenting increased dissent between India and China has been forwarded a few times. I would suspect they'd be happy to do it. Beats actually acting in a professional stand up manner. We know the west doesn't like to act like anything but assholes.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:16 | 4590382 BandGap
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I am not so sure Germany is not front and center with this.  They are not going to abandon anything regarding their European allies. Huns and The Bear have never mixed. There is much talk about the US gearing up to supply Europe with energy needs. I think this shit has happened before.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:33 | 4590439 cossack55
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Perhaps you should ask the Poles about Huns and Bears.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 16:12 | 4591512 MeelionDollerBogus
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We'll know if Putin is smart or not  based on if he ever, on the above comments, goes for the Afghanistan bid.
Pakistan... well India doesn't seem to get along so well with them except for agreeing to curb gold smuggling.
But if India is willing to do the dirty work in Afghanistan so Russia never has to see there again - they ought to have had enough last time - maybe they can pull it off.
Or, cut the locals in for a large cut of the gains/benefits.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:38 | 4590179 Itchy and Scratchy
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Fill 'er up!

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:39 | 4590184 LawsofPhysics
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Yes, it still is a "debt is money" world, and in the end all fiat will go to zero..

but guess what?

Trade always trumps currencies...

hedge accordingly.

(now if there was only something we could all hold and settle trade imbalances in that we all agree is of real value...)

tick tock motherfuckers...

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:42 | 4590205 SheepDog-One
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I've got some cases of 12 guage 00 buckshot set aside....wanna trade?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:45 | 4590223 LawsofPhysics
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I have plenty, looking for some more 7.62 x 51 mm rounds though...

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:58 | 4590302 dontgoforit
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Need about 10,000 more .22LR's and we're good.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:18 | 4590390 BandGap
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Try working on your aim first.


Tue, 03/25/2014 - 15:52 | 4591440 SheepDog-One
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No issue there, I didn't spend 12 years in the USMC plucking flowers.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:48 | 4590503 Savvy
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Why would you blab? sheesh.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:52 | 4590270 free_lunch
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When I watched the analitical video below, having an overdeveloped imagination, a hypothetical thought struck me: has the collapse of the real economy not already happened?

What if stocks going up is nothing more than bankers buying up the only real assets left with fresh created money? Then the prophecy of a collapsing stockmarket would make no sense, because if the banks own all things of real value, why would they ever sell it to accumulate the fiat paper they can print as much as they want?

They could dump specific stocks to scare the last private investors wich are not members of their club out. Of course they would only sell to another representive of their own. Then they go on buying and selling to themselves forever, to uphold the illusion of a free market so people won't be alarmed? Would we ever know? Would this scenario be possible?

The Economy Is A Complete Illusion And It's Ready To Collapse, gold to 1000$ ? -


TED talk: Who controls the world  -

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:55 | 4590282 LawsofPhysics
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Stocks are also going up as insiders sell and the company buys back the stock.  no conspiracy there, has happened since the very first share was ever issued (private or public).

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:10 | 4590350 Buckaroo Banzai
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hypothetical?? It's not hypothetical, the collapse happened in 2008. It's just going to take a decade or two for the dominoes to stop falling. Of course as every single domino falls, the politicians will tell us that "recovery is just around the corner".

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 16:06 | 4591495 MeelionDollerBogus
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dunno, some conjecture that makes sense to me is that insolvency was reality in 2001.
Since then it's all been backdoor dealing and printing until finally a larger collapse visibly happened reflecting the cover-up failing for the actual insolvency and so on and so forth. It's all show now.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:26 | 4590414 nakki
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I think you're right about the prospect of banks owning everything of real value. However when you have too many big swinging dicks sitting at one table, sooner or later, they will have to go after each other. Its one big game for the masters of the universe, you think 2008 was a massive power grab wait for the next one. Less and less owning more and more. Price of stocks mean nothing when you own it all. Collapse the market consolidate again print more or NEW money. Really control everything, real estate, stocks, natural resources, and government.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:44 | 4590487 Herd Redirectio...
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Look, if hyperinflation occurs, those (such as the Federal Gov't and Wall St) who were highly leveraged will benefit the most.

If deflation of any magnitude occurs (or continues to occur) those who have no debt or little debt will benefit the most.

You really think Washington and Wall St will allow deflation, given the above information?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 16:04 | 4591481 MeelionDollerBogus
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Vuuuut? Eez potemkin market? Comrade, say is not so!!

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:02 | 4590321 Snidley Whipsnae
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I found it interesting that India was right behind China in approving Putin/Russia moves regarding Ukraine.

Putin made a point of thanking China and India for their support.

Those guys continue to play chess while the neo cons are... well, I don't know what the hell the chicen hawks are doing but they are sure as hell being out manuvered at every turn.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:45 | 4590491 viahj
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" well, I don't know what the hell the chicen hawks are doing but they are sure as hell being out manuvered at every turn."

-you're assuming that they don't want war and the collapse of the US/dollar.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 23:25 | 4597206 IronForge
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Marbles, according to Rep. Rogers from the NeoCon Camp.

I prefer the Checkers analogy better, since they both can be played on the same board.

The Bitter Medicine of Asset Sell-Offs, Bank Deposit Seizures, Pension Reductions, and other Austerity Measures in Lieu of a Bail-Out just lost any credibility to its claimed effectiveness. 

Team RUS just announced a "Bridge/Infrastructure" Jobs/Stimulus Plan that should help many Crimeans and symbolically shame Ms. Nuland's 5Billion USD Plan - while UKR's Economy is at risk of a collapse and Bond Rating continues its descent down the "Junk" ratings towards Default.

One may presume that Team RUS actually HAS Chess Geniuses onboard and/or are actually be playing the strategic equivalent of 3-Dimensonal Chess verses the USA/NATO's game of single-board Checkers.

Considering that many Ukranians are working in RUS (w/o any Visa Restrictions as a response to Sanctions - another step along the High Road for TEAM RUS), it will be interesting to see how the rest of the RUS-leaning regions of south/eastern UKR will act as the Months progress. 

Best wishes to the Crimeans.  May they prosper in relative Peace.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:40 | 4590195 SheepDog-One
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'Petrodollar' quickly becoming a dinosaur.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:40 | 4590468 agent default
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The days of the US and the rest of the West playing the middleman of global trade and financial activity are over.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:41 | 4590197 Cornholiovanderbilt
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Bandar el Bush's phone is ringin ;-)

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:41 | 4590199 marathonman
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Ruh roh Shaggie!

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:42 | 4590201 cosmictrainwreck
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Yeah - and as I pointed out yesterday FXI continues it's tear uupwardss WTF?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:42 | 4590203 Kaiser Sousa
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i heard debt coupon dollars make great insulation and bedding for mice...


Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:22 | 4590406 RafterManFMJ
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I plan on insulating and plugging the holes in my Chinese-made sneakers as they wear out.

Also I'll put them in my hobo gloves for added protection on China's future reality TV show American Bum Fights.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 15:35 | 4591359 MeelionDollerBogus
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Coupons for da mice, cheese for da popes. Whaz this world a-comin' to.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:42 | 4590204 Kirk2NCC1701
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Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:28 | 4590429 alangreedspank
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Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:43 | 4590209 1000yrdstare
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This was planned a few years back remember? when the BRICS were formed.... they practically screamed they were fed up with the they just have to gamble that it works...(which oddly seems like the US and NATO are pushing them that way...hmmmm)

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:46 | 4590227 LawsofPhysics
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yes, all according to the script...

hedge accordingly.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:51 | 4590261 dontgoforit
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Comrade Obama helping Russia out?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:43 | 4590212 One And Only
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Can Putin please annex the US?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:43 | 4590216 Dr. Engali
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It sure seems like events are speeding up.... Hey look over there a missing plane.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:52 | 4590265 dontgoforit
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What happened to Moldova?  I know it was there a minute ago...

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:53 | 4590276 SheepDog-One
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Nothing to see there....I've just read that 'officials' have decided it crashed into the Indian Ocean, nevermind not any piece of debris or bodies or seat cushions washing up on any beach anywhere....again nothing to see here move along smartly and buy some stawks!

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:58 | 4590549 Matt
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1200 miles southwest of Perth. Guess the pilot was going for Antarctica. 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:17 | 4590389 ParkAveFlasher
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Beat me to the punch on that one!!!! +1

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:26 | 4590419 RafterManFMJ
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Sure does seem like it Doc; I'd say we're due for another mass school shooting - you know, one where the official story makes little sense and there are plenty of actors but no video.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:45 | 4590226 socalbeach
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If we're alienating SA and Israel because we're not going to attack Iran, I'm trying to figure out why that is a bad thing.

"While the US is bumbling every possible foreign policy move in Ukraine (and how could it not with John Kerry at the helm), and certainly in the middle east, where it is alienating Israel and Saudi just to get closer to Iran..."

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:51 | 4590262 Chuck Knoblauch
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We're not alienating SA or Israel. What's more important is that Iran, Russia, and China know we're not alienating SA or Israel without a reason. I don't see SA or Israel joining (infiltrating) BRICS anytime soon.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 13:48 | 4590848 Winston Churchill
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Iran could well though.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:47 | 4590233 magpie
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Germany already picked its harboring the repainted MH370 with nuclear waste.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:51 | 4590260 Canucklehead
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MH370 crashed in Somalia.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:54 | 4590279 magpie
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Nah, Lufthansa Cargo has a surplus plane.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 11:55 | 4590289 Chuck Knoblauch
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US base in Pine Gap, Australia knows everything but won't say a word.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:16 | 4590379 Canucklehead
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I agree with you.  A plane does not go missing above the world's biggest shipping choke point and the powers that be do not know what happened.

I expect a struggle happened on board.  The plane turned west.  The plane likely passed over the Maldives (as reported), ran out of fuel when it reached the African coast.  That would likely mean it crashed in northern Kenya or southern Somalia.  Who is going to look there?

The fact that the British and Australians are in on the disinformation plan mean something sinister happened and is being covered up.  The mis-direct down to the eternal flotsam floating off the coast of Australia was a smart move that would only work once.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 12:38 | 4590457 Eternal Complainer
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Yeah, buried next to Osama

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 15:20 | 4591296 MeelionDollerBogus
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<-- missing gold from COMEX

<-- missing nukes from a few years back

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