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A List Of 97 Taxes Americans Pay Every Year

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Submitted by Michael Snyder of The Economic Collapse blog,

If you are like most Americans, paying taxes is one of your pet peeves.  The deadline to file your federal taxes is coming up, and this year Americans will spend more than 7 billion hours preparing their taxes and will hand over more than four trillion dollars to federal, state and local governments.  Americans will fork over nearly 30 percent of what they earn to pay their income taxes, but that is only a small part of the story.

As you will see below, there are dozens of other taxes that Americans pay every year.  Of course not everyone pays all of these taxes, but without a doubt we are all being taxed into oblivion.  It is like death by a thousand paper cuts.  Our politicians have become extremely creative in finding ways to extract money from all of us, and most Americans don't even realize what is being done to them.  By the time it is all said and done, a significant portion of the population ends up paying more than half of what they earn to the government.  That is fundamentally wrong, but nothing will be done about it until people start demanding change.  The following is a list of 97 taxes Americans pay every year...

#1 Air Transportation Taxes (just look at how much you were charged the last time you flew)

#2 Biodiesel Fuel Taxes

#3 Building Permit Taxes

#4 Business Registration Fees

#5 Capital Gains Taxes

#6 Cigarette Taxes

#7 Court Fines (indirect taxes)

#8 Disposal Fees

#9 Dog License Taxes

#10 Drivers License Fees (another form of taxation)

#11 Employer Health Insurance Mandate Tax

#12 Employer Medicare Taxes

#13 Employer Social Security Taxes

#14 Environmental Fees

#15 Estate Taxes

#16 Excise Taxes On Comprehensive Health Insurance Plans

#17 Federal Corporate Taxes

#18 Federal Income Taxes

#19 Federal Unemployment Taxes

#20 Fishing License Taxes

#21 Flush Taxes (yes, this actually exists in some areas)

#22 Food And Beverage License Fees

#23 Franchise Business Taxes

#24 Garbage Taxes

#25 Gasoline Taxes

#26 Gift Taxes

#27 Gun Ownership Permits

#28 Hazardous Material Disposal Fees

#29 Highway Access Fees

#30 Hotel Taxes (these are becoming quite large in some areas)

#31 Hunting License Taxes

#32 Import Taxes

#33 Individual Health Insurance Mandate Taxes

#34 Inheritance Taxes

#35 Insect Control Hazardous Materials Licenses

#36 Inspection Fees

#37 Insurance Premium Taxes

#38 Interstate User Diesel Fuel Taxes

#39 Inventory Taxes

#40 IRA Early Withdrawal Taxes

#41 IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax)

#42 IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)

#43 Library Taxes

#44 License Plate Fees

#45 Liquor Taxes

#46 Local Corporate Taxes

#47 Local Income Taxes

#48 Local School Taxes

#49 Local Unemployment Taxes

#50 Luxury Taxes

#51 Marriage License Taxes

#52 Medicare Taxes

#53 Medicare Tax Surcharge On High Earning Americans Under Obamacare

#54 Obamacare Individual Mandate Excise Tax (if you don't buy "qualifying" health insurance under Obamacare you will have to pay an additional tax)

#55 Obamacare Surtax On Investment Income (a new 3.8% surtax on investment income)

#56 Parking Meters

#57 Passport Fees

#58 Professional Licenses And Fees (another form of taxation)

#59 Property Taxes

#60 Real Estate Taxes

#61 Recreational Vehicle Taxes

#62 Registration Fees For New Businesses

#63 Toll Booth Taxes

#64 Sales Taxes

#65 Self-Employment Taxes

#66 Sewer & Water Taxes

#67 School Taxes

#68 Septic Permit Taxes

#69 Service Charge Taxes

#70 Social Security Taxes

#71 Special Assessments For Road Repairs Or Construction

#72 Sports Stadium Taxes

#73 State Corporate Taxes

#74 State Income Taxes

#75 State Park Entrance Fees

#76 State Unemployment Taxes (SUTA)

#77 Tanning Taxes (a new Obamacare tax on tanning services)

#78 Telephone 911 Service Taxes

#79 Telephone Federal Excise Taxes

#80 Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Taxes

#81 Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Taxes

#82 Telephone State And Local Taxes

#83 Telephone Universal Access Taxes

#84 The Alternative Minimum Tax

#85 Tire Recycling Fees

#86 Tire Taxes

#87 Tolls (another form of taxation)

#88 Traffic Fines (indirect taxation)

#89 Use Taxes (Out of state purchases, etc.)

#90 Utility Taxes

#91 Vehicle Registration Taxes

#92 Waste Management Taxes

#93 Water Rights Fees

#94 Watercraft Registration & Licensing Fees

#95 Well Permit Fees

#96 Workers Compensation Taxes

#97 Zoning Permit Fees

Yet despite all of this oppressive taxation, our local governments, our state governments and our federal government are all absolutely drowning in debt.

When the federal income tax was originally introduced a little more than 100 years ago, most Americans were taxed at a rate of only 1 percent.

But once they get their feet in the door, the social planners always want more.

Since that time, tax rates have gone much higher and the tax code has exploded in size.

Why do we have to have the most convoluted tax system in the history of the planet?

Why can't things be simpler?

In a previous article entitled "24 Outrageous Facts About Taxes In The United States That Will Blow Your Mind", I listed a number of reasons why our federal income tax system has become a complete and utter abomination that is entirely out of control...

1 - The U.S. tax code is now 3.8 million words long.  If you took all of William Shakespeare's works and collected them together, the entire collection would only be about 900,000 words long.

2 - According to the National Taxpayers Union, U.S. taxpayers spend more than 7.6 billion hours complying with federal tax requirements.  Imagine what our society would look like if all that time was spent on more economically profitable activities.

3 - 75 years ago, the instructions for Form 1040 were two pages long.  Today, they are 189 pages long.

4 - There have been 4,428 changes to the tax code over the last decade.  It is incredibly costly to change tax software, tax manuals and tax instruction booklets for all of those changes.

5 - According to the National Taxpayers Union, the IRS currently has 1,999 different publications, forms, and instruction sheets that you can download from the IRS website.

6 - Our tax system has become so complicated that it is almost impossible to file your taxes correctly.  For example, back in 1998 Money Magazine had 46 different tax professionals complete a tax return for a hypothetical household.  All 46 of them came up with a different result.

7 - In 2009, PC World had five of the most popular tax preparation software websites prepare a tax return for a hypothetical household.  All five of them came up with a different result.

8 - The IRS spends $2.45 for every $100 that it collects in taxes.

9 - According to The Tax Foundation, the average American has to work until April 17th just to pay federal, state, and local taxes.  Back in 1900, "Tax Freedom Day" came on January 22nd.

10 - When the U.S. government first implemented a personal income tax back in 1913, the vast majority of the population paid a rate of just 1 percent, and the highest marginal tax rate was just 7 percent.

If it was up to me, I would abolish the income tax and shut the IRS down.

But neither major political party in the United States is even willing to consider such a thing.

So the monstrous system that we have created will continue to get even bigger and even more complicated.

We are literally being taxed into oblivion, and most Americans don't even seem to care.

 

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Tue, 03/25/2014 - 20:04 | 4592293 BigJim
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Do you get the feeling this Snyder guy doesn't hold down a regular job?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 20:11 | 4592302 One And Only
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You don't get that feeling about Tyler Durden?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 20:14 | 4592312 BigJim
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And you never see them together, either!

 

Hmmm....

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 20:24 | 4592339 fonzannoon
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He is a former D.C attorney who realized it's just easier to spin off this bullshit from his laptop at starbucks before his tennis lesson. He included all these taxes and did not even mention inflation (or maybe he did. I don't even read this shit anymore).

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 20:46 | 4592400 idea_hamster
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"75 years ago, the instructions for Form 1040 were two pages long.  Today, they are 189 pages long."

That 6.25% compounded annually.  Sounds legit....

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 20:51 | 4592417 idea_hamster
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"The IRS spends $2.45 for every $100 that it collects in taxes."

Now that's what I call ROI, baby!

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 21:03 | 4592452 chumbawamba
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The IRS is a debt collector.  The income tax is actually nothing more than an excise tax for your use of Federal Reserve Notes, which are private banker credit.  Look at a return, they are interested in how many of their FRAUDs (Federal Reserve Accounting Unit Device) you used during the year.  You are automatically exempt $1,000 for the presumed use of US Treasury minted currency (otherwise known as "coins").

The tax you supposedly owe is a debt, subject to the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA).  15 USC section 1692.  When the IRS sends you a bill, send them a debt validation demand.

Game over.

I am Chumbawamba.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 21:07 | 4592463 chumbawamba
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P.S. If they get obnoxious, tell them, no problem, give me the names of all the competent fact witnesses who will be showing up in tax court to testify as to the validity of the alleged debt.

Again, game over.

This law stuff is hard!

I am Chumbawamba.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 21:27 | 4592523 fonzannoon
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Hey Chumba I just followed a link to a link to a piece that you put up on ZH a few years ago about waking up and the Matrix. Did you ever write a follow up to that?

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 21:45 | 4592565 The Vineyard
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The rich need to pay more taxes.  I want them to fix my teeth.  Bitches.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 23:17 | 4592694 TruthInSunshine
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Say what you will about Snyder (yeah, he uses a lot of lists, and repeats a lot of facts), but he at least is giving information that is pretty amazing (as to how destructive government is) to those who've not yet woken up to some basic, incredible facts of government ass-buggery.

The tax code (IRC) is literally responsible for the destruction of tens of millions of real jobs, in order to support maybe 700,000 IRS, accountant, tax attorney & other parasitic jobs, due to its ridiculous complexity and nearly indecipherable provisions.

It should be scrapped in its entirety, and replaced with a 15% flat tax,
that can be computed in less than 1 minute by anyone with an IQ of 80 or greater (15% x gross income) and sent in on a form the length of a postcard.

p.s. - for those keeping tabs on the China Economic Black Hole - OT - Anyone who claims China is NOT headed for a crash landing is delusional:

http://portal.ransquawk.com/headlines/an-industry-official-says-more-ste...

News Headline Summary

An industry official says more steel makers, particularly private ones, may follow Haixin Iron and Steel into default

Print 01:02 - Asian News - Source: China Securities Journal

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 23:49 | 4592779 Mr. Ed
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"It should be scrapped in its entirety, and replaced with a 15% flat tax,..."

Okay.  Do what you're talking about, but do it with the FairTax (HR25) because it puts your income records completely out of reach.

The FairTax puts an end to the Police State fostered by the IRS.  No more "show us your papers" any time some creep in the Collections Division of the IRS decides to amuse themselves.  The FairTax (HR25) restores the Fourth Amendment.

 

PS: with the FairTax, criminals and everyone else in the underground economy start paying tax -- that means less tax for the rest of us.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 06:48 | 4593102 negative rates
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Somebody needs a tax holiday. Fire the administrators!

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 09:20 | 4593339 CH1
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It should be...

But nothing will change, so long as everyone obeys.

Why should it?

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 00:34 | 4592869 Problem Is
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No Tax On Income

Only tax idle assets and... A 1% sales tax on all HFT securities and notional value of ALL DERIVATIVES!

But no tax on on income ever...

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 01:37 | 4592938 Drifter
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Only constitutional taxes are excise (sales tax) and proportioned head tax (same amount for everybody), both collected at the state level and remitted to the federal govt. 

No direct interacton between federal govt and the people, federal govt only interacted with state govts.

But constitution stopped mattering long ago, right after civil war specifically.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 09:30 | 4593367 Free Wary
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You are spouting statist stuff

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 02:27 | 4592986 Free Wary
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Nope. It should be scrapped entirely and NOT replaced with anything. This would cause the federal government to shrink, maybe somewhere close to where the founders intended.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 13:50 | 4594521 FWM
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" It should be scrapped in its entirety, and replaced with a 15% flat tax..."

Politely disagree:  God only asks for 10%.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 08:36 | 4593230 crazzziecanuck
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Here's an important question: do you think people would be more or less inclined to pay their taxes if they felt they received value for money?  I ask this because it seems now a full 26% of American government budget is to pay interest on loans they borrowed from 'the rich.'

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 22:56 | 4592727 ForTheWorld
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Is this the original post you're referring to? http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-05-03/we-begin

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 23:08 | 4592751 chumbawamba
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I'm presently gaining more field experience so no one can accuse me of being a hypocrite.  That series is set to resume soon.  Can't say when exactly, but it shall be continued.

Thanks for asking.

-Chumblez.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 06:56 | 4593106 BigJim
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Hey Chumblez, I always enjoy your posts... whether I agree with them or not ;-)

When I've encountered your various posts re: the legal intricacies of the IRS tax code, they remind me of other technical arguments people have used to resist the IRS... and have wound up in prison for evading 'their' taxes. Do you have some direct experience of getting these arguments to work, either with the IRS, or in court?

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 07:48 | 4593140 chumbawamba
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Not direct experience, as so far I've dealt with the IRS by simply telling them to fuck off (and it helps to not have a permanent address at the moment).  But it comes down to fundamental foundational law.  The IRS is making a claim against you.  He who brings the claim must provide proof of claim upon demand.  That works as a debt validation demand and it also works in court defending oneself.  They can't just submit documents into the record unless you let them.  They have to be qualified by a competent first hand fact witness.  The IRS is a paper hell and dozens of agents may have had a hand in shaping your file, so even if they wanted their agents to testify they would have to bring in a bunch of them to authenticate any records, and that's just not happening.  The bottom line is you can beat them with very basic law.  There is plenty of information on the web, it's just a matter of taking the time to read it and piece it all together.  You can even find people to hire that will hold your hand throughout the entire process (as well as a lot of hucksters who will say they will help but just steal your money, like the IRS).

The reason people lose against them is because a) they misunderstand the nature and purpose of the IRS and b) they fall into the well placed traps the system has laid for them along the treacherous path of fighting the "government" (IRS is a private corporation, just like the Federal Reserve).  Most people go into court as a defendant, not realizing they are castrated in that position.  Any time anyone sues you the first response is to file a counter-claim, which makes you a plaintiff, and the plaintiff is the sovereign of the court (a "court" is the person and suit of the sovereign, it's old timey common law).  You always want to be a plaintiff in court, and you always want to be pressing your own claim, even if just suing the other side for trespassing on your right to be left alone.

This is insightful and explains more about how people lose for making erroneous arguments.  You don't argue the facts with them in court, you argue the law, and beat them on jurisdiction.

http://www.1215.org/schulz.htm

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 10:02 | 4593465 Who was that ma...
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It is a giant leap of faith to imagine you will get a fair trial when challenging the government.

Government will only abide by the "rule of law" when it suits, or advances, its own adjenda.

The IRS is like a deadly poisoous snake with a head at both ends.  You will be defending youself against one head while the other one comes around and bites you in the ass.

We are all slaves to a cruel, greedy, and all-powerful master.  Our best defense for personal survival is to stay low and keep our head down, the minute we poke our head up, as you seem determined to do, it will be chopped off.

It is foolish to think we can "outsmart" the government through reason and rational argument.  Government is not about reason, government is not rational, government is about power and brute force.  This is not something new, it has always been thus since the beginning of time, other than for a few brief moments before corruption and greed again took over.

 

It short chumba, you are a fool

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 11:45 | 4593980 chumbawamba
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That may be, but at least I'm not a slave.

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 12:32 | 4594178 Who was that ma...
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You're like a virgin who voluntarily offers herself as sacrifice to the gods in some sort of pointless display of pride and ego.

 

You are twice a slave.  Once to your own idealism and once to the system that will consume and destroy you.

 

Only the rat and the cockroach are free, they live by stealth, taking what they need in darkness of night and keeping head down.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 05:30 | 4597671 Mr. Ed
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"It short chumba, you are a fool"

 

I have to agree.  The IRS loves to see the likes of Chumba and others they call Tax Protestors coming at them.  They've been dealing with that kind for decades and know there will be no contest.  They know they will win... they own the courts.

The only thing the IRS fears is an educated and organized citizenry willing turn out crony-loving legislators who like playing games with the tax code and elect a group that will pass the FairTax (HR25)

There is only one way to deal with something like the IRS:  KILL IT.

The FairTax kills the IRS monster and repeals the Sixteenth Amendment so that it never comes back again.

Pass the FairTax and at the same time restore the Fourth Amendment(which terminates a large part the current police state)!

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 18:39 | 4596075 BigJim
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Chumblez: Thanks for the lengthy reply.

Sorry if this is a stupid question... but if they make a claim against you, and you then counter-sue, doesn't that just mean you have two cases on your hands? One in which you're the defendant, and another one in which you're the plaintiff?

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 20:53 | 4596652 Liberty2012
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Thank you Chumbawamba for the Matrix article mentioned above, etc, etc

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 20:52 | 4596647 Liberty2012
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Thank you FoeTheWorld for finding the link

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 22:57 | 4592729 Final Authority
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Yes, it is an excise tax but it can be on more things then just your use of FRN's. Lincoln got it all going in earnest when he asked for a "return" on the funds paid all the federals recruited to beat the southern States into a bloody pulp. That was long before 1913. Up vote for pointing out one way to get them to leave you alone. Evidence and witnesses, or lack thereof, can be your friends if you understand the game the crooks play.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 23:00 | 4592737 Mr. Ed
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"The IRS is a debt collector.  The income tax is actually nothing more than an excise tax...   ...Game over"  ???

You may not realize it but you got served some bad Cool Aid somewhere...  anything of the kind you suggest assumes that the courts in this country will uphold statutory law and the constitution in litigation against the IRS (ROFL!!)   ...not gonna happen.

HR25!  HR25!  HR25!  HR25!  HR25!  HR25!  HR25!  HR25! 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 23:05 | 4592749 chumbawamba
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You just lack imagination, my friend.  And balls.

I am Chumbawamba.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 23:52 | 4592818 Mr. Ed
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HA-HA!!!  Well, I know the history of this matter, but I'm not gonna stand your way.  Good luck -:)

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 06:57 | 4593107 BigJim
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I'd enjoy reading your counter-arguments, so please don't hold back.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 23:02 | 4592716 Mr. Ed
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"Now that's what I call ROI, baby!"

Yeah... but how much do YOU spend in time, money and planning on this stupid game for every $100 THEY extract?  That's not quite as pretty.

HR25!  HR25!  HR25!  HR25!  HR25!  HR25!  HR25! ...

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 21:03 | 4592449 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

He is a former D.C attorney who realized it's just easier to spin off this bullshit from his laptop at starbucks before his tennis lesson.

Thank you, fonz, for not using any form of the verb "to write" in your assessment. This guy does not write, he enumerates lists.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 22:55 | 4592723 Greenskeeper_Carl
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come on, this is at least a useful article. At least its not another "23 reasons why the dollar collapses tomorrow"

 

but yes, he is getting tiresome

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 06:58 | 4593109 BigJim
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'tomorrow'? You mean he's gaining perspective? Last year the dollar was going to collapse today.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 21:14 | 4592485 Stuck on Zero
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The worst tax of all is the inflation tax.  Your savings lose value continuously and then the government taxes you on the interest that hasn't kept up with the inflation.

 

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 05:00 | 4592409 Grouchy Marx
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I have this theory that Tyler is actually a very clever software algorithm.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 08:33 | 4593224 crazzziecanuck
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Americans get to pay taxes so the corporations don't have to.

It's Robin Hood in reverse.  The government robs from the poor and gives to the rich.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 20:12 | 4592306 booboo
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So in 1913 the income tax was instituted as the vig for the new banking cartel for the priviledge of using the ever shrinking Reserve note, yea, I think he missed inflation as the steathiest tax of them all. Fuck you Yellen

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 20:47 | 4592404 Grouchy Marx
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I get the feeling few people hold down regular jobs anymore. It's all temp work. "Permanent" employee is an oxymoron.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 21:07 | 4592467 Tough Mudder
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He has corporate sponsorship.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 10:13 | 4593497 Peanut Butter E...
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Whoever down voted this article is either an IRS agent or NSA propaganda machine! Ban those assholes!

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 20:06 | 4592296 ghengis86
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You see this?!? THIS is why we can't have nice things!

Fuck you IRS, Mr. Yellen, O-zero and the whole lot of you fuckers in DC, Wall Steet, London, et al!!!

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 20:06 | 4592297 A Lunatic
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98 - Inflation.......

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 11:06 | 4593770 Woodyg
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The author might start with the IRS but I'd start with the damn Federal Reserve.
Good idea - let the predatory banksters run the monetary policy And Currency - talk about giving away your sovereignty - and when some say But we have to let the Fed run the Currency or else the poor will get ahold of the currency thru that shitty thing called Democracy and the Vote and run the monetary policy to enrich themselves -
Which is of course what the fat little piggies / monopolist fascist bastards are doing right now.

And if we add up all those taxes paid you'll find that The HORROR
Even poor people pay lots of these taxes - and if added up the poor and middle class pay a much higher overall rate than the 1% do.

And the hidden tax not mentioned Inflation.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 20:13 | 4592304 DavidC
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Yeah, but the market's up...

DavidC

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 20:18 | 4592324 FieldingMellish
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Booyah!

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 20:25 | 4592342 RaiZH
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Oh and not to mention that the deminishing purchasing power of the dollar is a form of tax too. 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 20:32 | 4592344 krispkritter
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Irritating Revenue Seekers

Invasive Reptilian Scumbags

Irrational Retards Stealing

Income Receivers Sodomized

Income Rented, Suckers...

Great watch if you have the time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKeaw7HPG04  America, Freedom to Fascism

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 11:43 | 4593969 headhunt
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 you forgot - Irradiated Rat Shitheads

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 21:58 | 4596923 Secede Or Die
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.....and my favorite.....Institute of Revolting Scum!

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 20:32 | 4592366 Cannon Fodder
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Why can't we all just pay one flat rate - say 9% (Hermain Cain) - and be done with it. No exceptions, no loop holes, no tax breaks. EVERYONE. DONE!  Do away with the IRS, do away with penalties and IRS SWAT teams. Do away with confusing forms. Oh you made 100k? Fine write a check for $9,000.

WHY IS THAT SO DIFFICUTL?!?!?!

Dumb as government has to make everything so freakin difficult.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 20:40 | 4592380 A Lunatic
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If the government is entitled to 9% of the fruits of your labor and creativity they are entitled to 60% (for now).

That's why.......

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 20:57 | 4592436 rubiconsolutions
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"Why can't we all just pay one flat rate - say 9% (Hermain Cain)"

Any tax on income, especially a direct tax is immoral. It doesn't matter the rate. And unless and until people wake up and understand that the 16th amendment (along with Article 1, Section 8) is the most atrocious part of the constitution then the theft will continue. Herman Cain used his 9-9-9 plan to get a little traction with the electorate but like most politicians doesn't want to address the real issue. Asking the government to tax us all at a rate of 9% is like asking a rapist to not stick it all the way. And does anyone with common sense think the government won't incrementally raise the rate? It starts at 9%, then 12%, then 17%, then 22%....when the 16th amendment was first ratified (allegedly) the rate was 1% on higher incomes. Fast forward a hundred years and see what you get.

The flat tax isn't flat and the fair tax isn't fair. - Read it


Tue, 03/25/2014 - 23:05 | 4592636 Mr. Ed
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The flat tax isn't flat and the fair tax isn't fair. - Read it...

I have read it.  That guy is mis-informed.

You can find an accurate description of the FairTax (HR25) here: http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=HowFairTaxWorks 

 

(how the hell do ya embed a link on this site? - I'll fugure it out later)

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 09:32 | 4593369 Waterfallsparkles
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I still do not understand why I cannot depreciate myself against all of my earned income.  After all my ability to earn money does have limited "life span".

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 21:59 | 4592606 seek
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Because having hundreds of different taxes lets the politicians and interests game the system and provide rewards to the favored.

Whenever tax simplication is proposed, it's fought vigorously by many established business interests.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 23:56 | 4592794 Mr. Ed
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"Why can't we all just pay one flat rate - say 9% (Hermain Cain) - and be done with it"?

You will still need to keep records.  The IRS will still exist, and their Gestapo will still come in the night (or outta the clear blue sky years later) to go traipsing through your records, invading your privacy and potenially making your life a living HELL ... because taxing income will always - ALWAYS!!!! - open the door to investigation of what is or is not income and whether you're hiding some of it.

The FairTax (HR25) slams that door in the face of any would-be diddler from the government.

Forever!

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 01:19 | 4592920 rubiconsolutions
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"The FairTax (HR25) slams that door in the face of any would-be diddler from the government."

Absolutely not! The government will still be hip deep in tax collection by using every merchant as a collection agent. The (not so) Fair Tax is a consumption tax. As Murray Rothbard said - "The consumption tax, on the other hand, can only be regarded as a payment for permission-to-live. It implies that a man will not be allowed to advance or even sustain his own life, unless he pays, off the top, a fee to the State for permission to do so. The consumption tax does not strike me, in its philosophical implications, as one whit more noble, or less presumptuous, than the income tax."

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 01:34 | 4592934 MEAN BUSINESS
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Any "man" in the tax multi-$B related business will hate to see the IRS end and all the "Men" in the underground economy will oppose it too.

And the merchants are already doing the collection paperwork at the state level and will be PAID to do the extra FED paperwork (10 minutes/day lol)

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 07:55 | 4593032 Mr. Ed
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"The government will still be hip deep in tax collection...

You are wrong in believing that this could ever become a violation of personal privacy.  Under the FairTax, you buy something (so regulating your own tax burden by the choice to purchase new instead of used goods) and the merchant collects a fixed percentage in tax.  You personally have absolutely no obligation to keep a record of your purchase.  And, the government has no right to come along sometime later demanding to see any records you may chose to keep.  The only excerption would be in a case where the police were able to convice a judge that there was specific probable cause in the investigation of some crime connected with the purchase (which is perfectly constitutional under the Fourth Amendment).

The merchant would have to keep a record of the amount of tax collected (something most states already require) and remit that amount less a collection fee to compensate the merchant's effort.  But the merchant has no obligation to take your name; and, what you chose to buy is none of the damn gov's business!

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"The consumption tax, on the other hand, can only be regarded as a payment for permission-to-live. It implies that a man will not be allowed to advance or even sustain his own life, unless he pays, off the top, a fee to the State..." - Murray Rothbard.   I don't know how any clear-thinking person could come up with a statement like that.  Do you know where that quote came from?

First off, no one pays any tax on the minimum necessities of life under the FairTax Prebate system.  And what you do pay should be regarded as a fee for service:  that is, a fee to cover all the legitimate things that support commerce (for example: police, courts, bureau of standards, armed forces, etc.)   Again, I don't see how Rothbard came up with that statement.  It just seems like one more chunk of mis-information about the FairTax (HR25).

Now, the notion that government should be paid a fee for those services that ultimately support commerce is a very frightening notion to many lovers of big and unlimited goverment.  That is because any conception of government that ties a fee to a service leads to the notion that fees and services should be linked.  That leads to the idea of "no service, no fee", and the idea that government at all levels should actually do something useful to get the money it collects.  That won't be popular among bureaucrats.  The FairTax implicitly demands that the government work for it's dinner.

And again, the tax only applies to new goods, not used goods.

The FairTax (HR25) is worth studying.  You can go to the FairTax.org website to learn more.  The FairTax is much more well studied, dissected and analysed than any other proposed system.  Every negative review I've read has been written by someone too lazy to learn the facts.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 08:30 | 4593214 withglee
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Does the "Fairtax" make the government smaller? Does it have an automatic feedback system that keeps the government from getting larger? One good thing about the income tax: At least once a year (or 4 times if you're self employed), it pisses everybody off. The more you bury a tax the more you remove resistance to the tax.

Solution: Give all governments a huge wack. When a company gets in trouble, the problem is seldom revenue ... it's expenses.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 06:00 | 4597691 Mr. Ed
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"Does the "Fairtax" make the government smaller? ..."

 

The income tax has often been called "a tax on common sense".

There is so much of our current over-grown government engaged in what has got to be seen as nonsense.  Stop taxing common sense and I think a broad change in general expectations will occur.  The people's tolerance for nonsense is likely to diminish.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 08:31 | 4593220 Borrow Owl
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Taxation = armed robbery

Doesn't matter how much lipstick you use- it ain't gonna make that pig any prettier.

 

 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 20:34 | 4592370 Azwethinkweiz
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Tea Party bitchez....like the Boston kind.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 20:44 | 4592390 yogibear
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People in the US complain but never join together to protest. The public unions storm the state houses to demand higher taxes for their pay and pensions increases. 

The state legislatures appease  the unions and raise the taxes. Repeat every few years.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 11:35 | 4593931 headhunt
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The communists is this country do a remarkable job of keeping the people divided.

Divide and conquer.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 20:52 | 4592420 robertocarlos
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I caved in and bought 2 cans of beer. 500ml Irish beers. Total cost $7.20 Not enough change left from a tenner to buy a lotto ticket.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 21:00 | 4592434 devo
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Waiting for a large penis tax. That will be the last straw.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 23:32 | 4592790 Jani
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Why do you want to tax the black dudes and give refunds to the slant eyes ??

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 07:03 | 4593110 headhunt
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That tax comes with a lot of additional expenses

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 20:56 | 4592435 withglee
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Far from an exhaustive list:

add:

Hospital district tax
Junior College district tax
EMS District tax
Park District tax
Battery recycling fee tax
Aluminum can recycling fee tax
Bottle recycling tax
Hazardous material recycling tax
Aircraft landing fee
Community association dues
Supplemental security service tax
Auto inspection tax
Uninsured motorist tax
Road and bridge tax
Toll roads
Personal property tax
Import and export duties (the original and only federal tax)

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 12:51 | 4594274 STP
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You must live in Kalifornia!  There's also a fire-fighting tax on Rural Property too!

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 21:02 | 4592445 Tegrat
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I spent $15k on a solar system just to fuck the freeloaders from me. I raped my account before the obama voters could get to it. Fuck the freeloaders worse than the banksters, imo.

 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 21:15 | 4592487 sfisher
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NY City Commuter Tax

FU NY City!

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 21:37 | 4592541 Bear
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I don't mind the liquor tax as it eliminates recognition of all the others

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 21:42 | 4592551 SweetDoug
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Here's what you have to ask yourselfs:

 

When is it going to be time to start thinking about the time, that it'll be the time to start pushing back, hard?

And how hard will you push back?

•J•
V-V

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 23:14 | 4592759 Mr. Ed
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"When is it going to be time to start thinking about the time, that it'll be the time to start pushing back, hard?

And how hard will you push back?"

 

Easy answer: support passage of HR25.  The beginning of the end of social engineering, crony capitalism and K Street.  No more taxation of common sense.

...it's really quite easy, and you can do it right now.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 21:44 | 4592560 Mr. Ed
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Would everyone (including the author of this post) please google HR25? -- (S122 in the senate)

It ends the IRS permanently. It repeals the 16th amendment. It is widely known as the FairTax and every big government / big bureaucracy troll is trashing it every chance they get because it foretells the end of cronyism (and their demise).

After more than 10 years it's now up for a vote in the Ways and Means Committee.

This is well known legislation that now has 74 co-sponsors!

If you want to see the end of the IRS nightmare, get informed.  Get involved.

You want to put an end the IRS?  Then talk about the FairTax!

 

PS:  I've heard nothing but crickets in the comment section every time the IRS is discussed on ZH... makes me wonder WHO actually does the commenting on this website.  It's hard to believe that no one here has ever heard of it.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 21:48 | 4592573 nobodyimportant
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There is no "fair tax" while you feed the monster!

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 22:38 | 4592688 Mr. Ed
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Kill the income tax and you kill the "monster".

HR25 kills the income tax.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 22:00 | 4592592 nobodyimportant
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double post - sorry

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 23:50 | 4592817 MEAN BUSINESS
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Mr Ed-crickets in the comment section

I noticed the same thing. Ironic that Libertarian POTUS 2012 candidate Gary Johnson showed interest in FairTax but it's never mentioned here. 

(insert link: hight light the text then click chainlink icon from the toolbar, small window pops up, paste URL, click insert)

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 00:42 | 4601578 Mr. Ed
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Excuse me: the current number of sponsors ad co-sponsors in the Senate and House is 84 (not 74).

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 21:46 | 4592566 nobodyimportant
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Read the tax code  Chapter 26 Section 86 1thru 8t or see whatistaxed.com

Maybe keep your fiat for yourself -- or not if you want to contribute to your own demise.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 21:55 | 4592589 laomei
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I personally don't pay any of those.  #57 is the only thing to worry about on my end, and not for much longer at that.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 21:56 | 4592591 malek
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He forgot two more, found on my Internet Provider bill:

FCC State and Country tax
City User fee

 

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 22:04 | 4592599 Intoxicologist
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The one that really chaps me is that half my property tax bill goes to the new prison....errr, school they had to build.  I'd like to put my dogs on the schoolbus just so I'd feel like I'm getting something out of it.  As it is, new school or old, they're doing nothing but churning out a bunch of retards.

I quit licensing my dogs.

The septic "inspection" notice (cost $100) every three years that I'm sent goes straight in the garbage. 

My tax bill is due in January, but I hold it back until the end of the year. 

Due date, schmue date.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 11:33 | 4593203 headhunt
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The real reason your school tax is so large is because of the legacy costs of early retirements and unrealistic pensions and healthcare benefits that the union school teachers receive. If we had the best school system in the world there may be an argument for these type of salaries and ridiculous pensions and benefits.

They turn out the stupidest 'educated' people on the planet - but they have high self esteem.

So we got that going for us.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 22:00 | 4592605 Mr. Ed
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"There is no "fair tax" while you feed the monster!"  -  nobodyimportant

That is Ron Paul's point of view... one of the few I disagree with.  He underestimates the long term effect of ending social engineering through the tax code and of starving all the crony enablers on K Street.

The "Monster" you refer to will choke death on what flows from that change.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 22:13 | 4592628 nobodyimportant
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Ron Paul is one of the few who does not need a glass belly button!

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 00:08 | 4592835 Mr. Ed
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Oh, I agree with most of his viewpoints.   But, he thinks that the greater collection efficiency of the FairTax (HR25) will enable larger governrnent.  I believe something else will unfold.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 22:05 | 4592625 Savvy
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What I don't get is, there were roads and schools and hospitals and infrastructure for millenia before there were taxes.

WTF happened???

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 22:10 | 4592633 1ifbyland
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So very tired of lists. So very USA today. So prosaic.

So like every douche bag that starts a sentence with "So"

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 22:10 | 4592634 1ifbyland
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dupe

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 22:25 | 4592671 buzzsaw99
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#54 Obamacare Individual Mandate Excise Tax (if you don't buy "qualifying" health insurance under Obamacare you will have to pay an additional tax)

Okay guys, I am going to say this one time. If you have an aca non compliant health care plan you had better enroll in a compliant plan before next Monday or you are just giving the insurance company license to rape you. Especially if you are a light smoker. I bitched and bitched about the rates on my non compliant plan until finally yesterday bcbs jacked it another $60 a month and I said fuck it! I saved $100 a month over the shawshanking i was fixing to get on my old plan and that was no doubt only the beginning. Either don't get insurance at all or enroll in a compliant plan with the herd or else your ass will surely be red and sore by next Tuesday.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 00:42 | 4592881 malek
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Actually I'm now so paranoid that on any "free choice" which at the same time strongly pushs or even forces you to switch, I generally presume I'm getting ripped off somehow if I switch.

Which is the reason I'm sticking with my grandfathered plan as long as anyhow possible. Bullshit Bingo terms such as "compliance" only strengthen my resolve.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 08:44 | 4593249 buzzsaw99
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good luck malek

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 21:50 | 4596892 malek
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same to you with your new plan buzz

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 22:38 | 4592693 boozo
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One sometimes wonders why he bothers to live and work.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 22:55 | 4592724 undertowed
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WTF is a flush tax? Can't be real

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 08:09 | 4593171 withglee
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Big buildings pay a water consumption tax. The thinking is, that water is just going into the sewer so the tax is to subsidize the sewage collection and remediation systems.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 23:33 | 4592781 Drifter
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Stalin would proud of that list, maybe get some ideas from it.

Communist govts typically take 80% - 90% of income in taxes and fees of various types, we're getting there, just be patient.

Sharecroppers fared better, keeping 25% - 40% typically.

Tue, 03/25/2014 - 23:33 | 4592792 Jack of All Trades
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The more corrupt a society the more numerous its laws. . .

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 02:22 | 4592979 Free Wary
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.... and regulations and enforcers.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 00:10 | 4592846 Libertarian777
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if they stopped taxing, then politicians would have nothing to spend on their constituents (Federal Reserve counterfeiting aside). That is why it will never be abolished... it's for the widows and children!

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 00:39 | 4592875 Kirk2NCC1701
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Well researched and written, but too damn taxing to read. ;-)

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 00:43 | 4592882 damicol
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Stopped filing tax returns in the early 80s

 never even opened one sinceafter realising that it was actually quite easy to  avoid it.

Doesnt work too well for wage slaves though   and it does take some planning.

 but your income does effectively double.

Ever heard of a tourist being hounded by the IRS.

 Neither have I.I am a permanent tourist. and my business is offshore, at least the  bit that matters.

 

 

 

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 02:21 | 4592978 Free Wary
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Before I awoke I used to think people like you were criminals.

Then I remembered my ancestors who put on costume disguises and threw the British tea in the bay.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 00:45 | 4592884 22winmag
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The blood is on our hands. If you pay taxes, it ends up funding the bombing of women and children... period.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 00:52 | 4592893 hot sauce technician
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I'm not trying to troll here, but if people were to start using bitcoin (or privately minted silver/gold coinage for that matter - anything as long as it ain't "legal tender" fiat) then wouldn't you be able to circumvent the .gov maggot?

The whole reason .gov can collect these "protection fees" from citizens is bc commerce is being carried out in traceable and controlled currency. Stop participating in that racket and you cut out the racketeers. As worthy as Fairtax and other initiatives are. At the end of the day taxes should be collected on a per expenditure basis, approved by the people.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 01:15 | 4592914 MEAN BUSINESS
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FairTax is a fed tax collected per expenditure (iow consumption tax) supplanting income tax, corp tax, inheritance? etc etc

It all but eliminates the IRS and keeps .gov out of your affairs (iow freedom from terror) hence all costs associated with IRS

People should read up on it and approve but oh no, not in the land of the free (range chicken shits). Republic, lost.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 07:12 | 4593117 headhunt
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The IRS would have to be dissolved or the tax on everything else would just be added over time.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 06:07 | 4597694 Mr. Ed
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The FairTax (HR25) ends the IRS and repeals the Sixteenth Amendment so that it can't come back.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 02:19 | 4592976 Free Wary
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Yes. I need some hot sauce I offer you 2 cups of rice.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 01:28 | 4592927 Hopeless for Change
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And still, whenever a peep is made about taxes being too high, the liberal fucktard knee-jerk reaction is "so you don't like public roads?"

Wow, I really really hate Democrats.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 02:18 | 4592974 Free Wary
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Let us hate both of the ruling parties equally!

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 02:06 | 4592964 nc551
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This article makes it sound like we only pay 97 taxes, there are many more.  Also many more indirect 'taxes'.  For one example I'd say Cash for Clunkers... not only did our federal taxes go toward such an abomination it restricted supply on used vehicles raising prices.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 02:30 | 4592988 firestarter_916
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What about alcohol taxes?  Or those of us in CA pay Mello Roos fees, for what?  Schools and Fire Departments.  Wait! Didn't we already pay income, sales and property taxes? Yes.  So why Mello Roos?  Well, short answer is ask the idiots who voted for those 2 morons who created those fees!

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 05:51 | 4592994 firestarter_916
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I'm tired of uninformed Americans saying over and over that Europe pays more in taxes than we do.  That's complete and utter Bull Shit! You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.  And if you've never been to Europe, don't bother replying because that will just solidify your ignorance of the topic and we'll see right through it in your naive responses.

 

Europe actually has programs in place that are funded from those taxes, and not scammed from the people to line the pockets of politicians' bank accounts or to pay for his whores and coverups.  Imagine that, taxes going to where they are supposed to go and do things they were meant to do.  Hmmm, interesting concept. I dare say our Founding Fathers would be in agreement.

In mainland Europe:

If you wanna go to school, no problem.

If you need to see a doctor,  no problem.

If you need some time off at work, no problem.

If you get sick or disabled on the job, no problem.

Those problems are all taken care of for you financially for those taxes, all the while you get to take roads to work and school without potholes and actually feel safe walking around in the city. Mind you, taxes that are lower than what you're paying right now.

 

In Amerika:

Good luck with that vacation request, let me know what you boss says on the next review, if you get one that is. Corporate hacks are expected to be at work every day so don't get sick, don't go on vacation and don't question management, otherwise you'll find a college kid getting 1/4 your salary doing your job.

Schools aren't free, unless your parents can't afford private schools.  So in that respect your are taxed twice.  Make that 3 times if you life in CA.  Property taxes, Mello Roos and private school tuition.  As for College, if your parents were fortunate enough to attend an Ivy League school which has billions stashed away so little spoiled Johnny and Suzy can go at no charge, as long as they are accepted. BTW, this includes Stanford as well.

If your sick, you'll see a doctor, if you have insurance or cash.  I guess you could always quit your job, sell all your assets, then you'll get to join the ranks of millions of legal and illegal residents who rely on Medicaid. Let me know if your regular doctor will see you, and how long a wait that will be when you drop that little nugget of information on his front office staff.

If you're disabled you'll get $1000-$2000 a month, if you're lucky. Not sure where you can live on that monthly nut but rest assured, your days of keeping up with the Jones'. You'll now be hanging out with Hakeem, Manuel, Jose and some Russians.  In Europe, your disability or work comp payments damn well are near your full salary, in some countries it's 100%, and no, before you state your uninformed opinion that I could careless about, people over there aren't scamming the system. Partially because they aren't a continent of illegals, at least not yet.  And those who cheat the system are shammed and shunned, if you do try and scam the system. Many of the really nice and wealthy countries have homogenous populations.  They tend to work.  If you don't know what that means, go ask your old civic's teacher, or Google it, although I can't guarantee Google will give you any truthful findings.  Why else were most of the world's war started?

When you retire, and you're under 40, good luck with that. The Federal deficit will be about $30T by then and the tax revenue won't even cover the interest payments on that debt so I don't know why in hell you'd think you'll ever see that 15.5% stolen from each paycheck come back to you when your 67. Oh wait, your generation will mostly have to work until 70, or 72, or higher just to see a few worthless dollars sent to your bank account each month.

And for those potholes, well, see, over in Europe their roads are so well kept you can drive over 100MPH on them( and legally do so in parts of Germany.) Guess what, your car will not only survive, it will flourish.  Most German, Swedish, English and Italian cars not only can hit 100MPH, they're MADE to go that fast. Yes, gas may be higher but there's always a train or subway close by.  Or, God forbid, you gotta walk a ways to get to it.  You see that's why European women are skinny and Amerikan women are fat. They actually walk, imagine that.

A final word on Europe; I've worked in many large, global companies based in the US and when I meet my colleagues in Europe doing the exact same job but with less stress and shorter workdays, it's criminal to find out that they have no fears of job security.  They most likely have a car allowance (yes, that's very true. If you don't believe me, go to your HR dept and ask or go on your Intranet and look at the benefits for those doing your same job across the pond), and many of them over 30 have a second home.  Yes, you read that correctly.  Read it again if you didn't get it the first time.  They have second homes, usually in places where you're wife if constantly nagging you to take her to.  These a-holes actually have a second home in a much warmer, tropical place than where they live that has sand and water, lots of it. And they usually drive the car their employer paid for to get there.  How do you like them apples, Chucky?

 

Lastly, stupid Americans pay over half their income to support wars we don't need, to support allies who hate us and protect countries who don't want us around.  And don't get me started on FOREIGN AID!  That's just another allusion called a tax on the middle class.  It's just mind-boggling how much of the world's problems and corruption are funded on the backs of you and your neighbors.


Happy Hump Day!

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 06:36 | 4593094 Dr. Bonzo
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This is so on the money it's not even funny. It's unbelievable the burden Americans have been saddled with. If Europeans had half the tax burden without the benefits governments would collapse... oops... Greece... Spain... UK... it's in the works.

Yes, taxes are high in Europe. But at least there are returns for your tax slavery. In the US you're just a sucker. A true serf.

 

 

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 07:50 | 4593144 withglee
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Imagine that, taxes going to where they are supposed to go and do things they were meant to do.  Hmmm, interesting concept. I dare say our Founding Fathers would be in agreement.

If you leave my taxes with me, I "guarantee" it will go where it is supposed to and do what I want it to do.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 10:28 | 4593566 Ex Cathedra
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Freeloader.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 02:38 | 4592996 firestarter_916
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Hey you forgot about taxes on guns, and all kinds of gun fees?!  Or fees to register your guns?  Or the fees for a conceal carry permit?  Isn't a gun a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT??????

What about abortions?  Are their taxes on abortions?  Is there a waiting period?  Is there a fee involved?  Is there a background check?  Is there a limit to the number of abortions I can have?  Can I have more than one per month?  Oh wait, those exceptions only apply to "rights" given by activist courts.

The Founding Fathers would be sick if they saw how their Republic was being run in 2014.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 03:21 | 4593026 Hobbleknee
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#1 Air Transportation Taxes

 

Indeed, I just bought some tickets to the US and over 30% of the price was a "surcharge".

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 03:38 | 4593038 firestarter_916
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Wait one damn minute, I just got my utility bill....SOB....check this out

1. State Energy Charge

2. Renewable Energy Charge (even though I don't use a renewable energy)

3. Greenhouse Gas Surcharge (wtf! Has anyone ever proven there are greenhouse gases that I'm commiting?)

4. Hydroelectric Charge (again, I don't use any nor do I benefit from it, otherwise, where are my credits?????)

What a fuking country!

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 04:07 | 4593046 free_lunch
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It's all for the children - Legalized Plunder speech

 

Everyone who puts children in this world is either ignorant or must really hate children, because they will grow up and die as repressed slaves in dystopia.


"If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 06:14 | 4593081 justsayin2u
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Lemme see.

7B hrs * 15/hr (Bamy) = 1.05 Trillion dollars of waste in preparing taxes.

Eliminate the IRS saving another 70 Billion per year (Plussed up from their public number cause we all know government lies).

Flat tax of 10% plus imposts and duties would raise a couple Trillion and cost maybe 1/100 of that or 10 Billion

Problem is all the blood sucking politicians would lose paower in manipulating the tax code.

Repeal Obamacare also and no need for any IRS.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 08:17 | 4593180 Mr. Ed
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Sounds okay except for one thing: if ya go with a flat tax, you are taxing income, and that will require an IRS and intrusion... smaller maybe, but still a Gestapo like organization to meddle in your affairs... just to be sure you're reporting ALL your income amd doing it accurrately.

Substitue the FairTax (HR25) for the flat tax... then ya got somethin.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 06:25 | 4593086 justsayin2u
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Lets see

Fed income tax around 30%

State tax at 4 %

Property and sales taxes around 5%

SS at 16%

Medicare at 3%

Obamacare tax at 2%

Gas and other nits at 1%

Total not including taxes flowed down to us from businesses is 51%  We make a nice socialist state and would fit with Europe nicely.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 06:49 | 4593103 Just Observing
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Should read "A list of potential taxes you might pay".....because there are a whole bunch of them on that list I've never had to pay.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 07:56 | 4593150 withglee
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How about the lottery tax for those morons that buy lottery scratch offs.

Right off the top, the tax is 50%.

Then if you win you pay income tax on that. So that's another 50% on the 50% paid out. Total tax paid: 75%. But of course that all goes for indoctrination ... oops ... education.

And people complain about what the house takes in Las Vegas.

 

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 08:21 | 4593187 withglee
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Bootlegging cigarettes is big business that wouldn't exist without the high tax on cigarettes.

http://www.csmonitor.com/1996/0603/060396.us.us.5.html/%28page%29/2

As they said in the Soviet Union. They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 08:25 | 4593198 pragmatic hobo
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don't forget lottery tickets ...

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 09:27 | 4593358 Agstacker
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Yes, that's a tax on the stupid!

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 08:38 | 4593232 Took Red Pill
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This is just a rehash of a previous column! What's the matter, Snyder, you can't come up with any new lists? From Dec.2012;

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/show-this-to-anyone-that-bel...

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 08:49 | 4593260 dizzyfingers
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Not all "Americans" pay all those taxes. Some, possibly many, pay none. Dumpster diving's not taxed.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 09:08 | 4593309 d edwards
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Why do we have this system? Because it gives big gov't HUGE control of your life.

 

Flat tax and eliminate the IRSS which is now the enforcement arm for Fuehrer 0bamao.

You're guilty until you prove yourself innocent, and extreme enforcement methods (seize assets, property, etc.) that were given to deal with the mob and drug cartels are now used on "the little guy" average citizens like you or me. It's unconstitutional.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 09:23 | 4593346 Eastwood
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Methinks this is only the tip of the iceberg. The true # is > 97.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 10:49 | 4593671 turnoffthewater
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When I was a kid, me and my friends would go down the street and knock on poeples doors, run and hide and watch who would come out. We all thought that was funny making someone come to the door to find out there was noone.

Fast forward 20 years after having to find out and research what form was needed to pay what tax, My friends and I went around in our small town collecting names and addresses. Then we called up the IRS and requested hundreds for forms for each address. Of course they sent them, why wouldn't they.

Afterall, the thought of a flat tax just makes sense.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 06:20 | 4597704 Mr. Ed
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You might want to look at the FairTax (HR25),  It makes a lot more sense.

(well, unless you're an IRS employee... with a flat tax, you may get to keep your job... yeaaahhh.  Somebody's gonna have go snoopin around to make sure no one's hidin income!  Yeaahhh...).

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 10:55 | 4593712 rosiescenario
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I figure between Fed, self employment, state, etc taxes I now work nearly 7 months per year to pay taxes.....and I actually do not really earn that much...nothing unusual here.

 

I would like to see someone come up with the % of my taxes (or time, if you will) I am working to support foreign policies that only benefit some special interest groups....in other words, have no benefit whatsoever for any American citizen.

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