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Does Our System Select for Incompetent Sociopaths?

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Submitted by Charles Hugh-Smith of OfTwoMinds blog,

What is the shelf life of a system that rewards confidence-gaming sociopaths rather than competence?

Let's connect the dots of natural selection and the pathology of power.

In his 2012 book The Wisdom of Psychopaths: What Saints, Spies, and Serial Killers Can Teach Us About Success, author Kevin Dutton described how the attributes of sociopathology are in a sense value-neutral: the sociopathological attributes that characterize a dangerous criminal may also characterize a cool, high-performing neurosurgeon.

As Dutton explains in his essay What Psychopaths Teach Us about How to Succeed (Scientific American): 

Psychopaths are fearless, confident, charismatic, ruthless and focused. Yet, contrary to popular belief, they are not necessarily violent. Far from its being an open-and-shut case--you're either a psychopath or you're not--there are, instead, inner and outer zones of the disorder: a bit like the fare zones on a subway map. There is a spectrum of psychopathy along which each of us has our place, with only a small minority of A-listers resident in the “inner city.”

While there is obviously a place for high-functioning sociopaths in professions which reward those characteristics, what about sociopaths who substitute deviousness and deception for competence? For some context, let's turn to the Pathology Of Power by Norman Cousins, published in 1988.

Cousins was particularly concerned with the National Security State, a.k.a. the military-industrial complex, which at that point in U.S. history was engaged in a Cold War with the Soviet Empire. Cousins described the pathology of power thusly:

"Connected to the tendency of power to corrupt are yet other tendencies that emerge from the pages of the historians:

1. The tendency of power to drive intelligence underground;
2. The tendency of power to become a theology, admitting no other gods before it;
3. The tendency of power to distort and damage the traditions and institutions it was designed to protect;
4. The tendency of power to create a language of its own, making other forms of communication incoherent and irrelevant;
5. The tendency of power to set the stage for its own use.

In broader terms, we might add: the tendency of power to manifest hubris, arrogance, bullying, deception and the substitution of rule by Elites for rule of law.

Natural selection isn't only operative in Nature; it is equally operative in human organizations, economies and societies. People respond to whatever set of incentives and disincentives are present. If deceiving and conning others is heavily incentivized, while integrity and honesty are punished, people will gravitate to running cons and embezzlement schemes.

What behaviors does our Status Quo reward? Misrepresentation, obfuscation, legalized looting, embezzlement, fraud, a variety of cons, gaming the system, deviousness, lying and cleverly designed deceptions.

Let's connect the pathology of power and the behaviors selected by our Status Quo. What we end up with is a system that selects for a specific category of sociopaths: those whose only competence is in running cons.

No wonder we have a leadership that is selected not for competence but for deviousness. What's incentivized in our system is spinning half-truths and propaganda with a straight face and running cons that entrench the pathology of power.

What is the shelf life of a system that rewards confidence-gaming sociopaths rather than competence? Unless we change the incentives and disincentives, the system is doomed.

Of related interest:

The Normalization of Sociopathology in America (October 16, 2010)

The Federal Reserve and the Pathology of Power (November 18, 2010)

The Banality of (Financial) Evil (November 9, 2010)


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Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:15 | 4594634 ebworthen
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General Alexander and the N.S.A. fit the #1-#5 checklist for "Pathology of Power" to a T.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:17 | 4594665 Vampyroteuthis ...
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This backs one of the conclusion of mine recently, why seemingly smart people lose all their senses by becoming a libtard. It is simple; they have massive egos which leads to arrogant thinking, believing they know everything. In reality, they know nothing!

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:20 | 4594670 The Juggernaut
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No.  Its the People.  Its the People that lethargically accept the abuse government throws at them.  Its the People that settle for mouthpiece propaganda.  Its the People that let the minority think for them.  Its the People that fail to realize they have all the power (responsibility) to achieve Liberty this very second.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:21 | 4594693 john39
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the problem is that those most able to handle power without it corrupting them are the people who typically shun power anyway, while on the other hand, the people most susceptible to corruption from power, are the very people who crave and lust after power.   

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:24 | 4594704 NotApplicable
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I'd say the problem is people who cannot divest themselves of ownership of collective abstractions.

"Our System" = stupid squared.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:31 | 4594733 imaginalis
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Does a bear shit in the woods?

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:45 | 4594846 insanelysane
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The US education system's mission is to educate people into believing they are educated.  Thinking is no longer necessary if you already know everthing and it is especially usefull for people that don't know anything.  Although more Americans are college educated, the percentage with science and technology degrees is actually decreasing.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:01 | 4594937 Steve in Greensboro
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Let's be clear.  The real sociopaths are attracted to government power, because that is where the real power lies.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 16:27 | 4595476 Anusocracy
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A flaw in the article.

Sociopaths aren't really 'attracted' to power/control, their ancestors the alpha-males of social hierarchies, created it millions of years ago to improve their survival. Over evolutionary time, their influence developed the compliment to their rule: the dupes/sheep.

That's the unwanted gift from the animal world that is forced on the modern world. It's savage nature is counter-productive to a civilized world based on a positive sum economic system. The savage alpha that may have killed or injured a competing male is now a psychopath that may kill millions or even billions, while at the same time being wholly incapable of improving the wellbeing of humanity.

The operating system of a million years ago can't run a modern economic (and freedom) program

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 17:55 | 4595859 Nick Jihad
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Everyone overlooks women, but they are a majority of voters, and they are chosing our political leaders. All this focus on alpha male, beta male, wierd-greek-letter-male, overlooks that women are the voting bloc that is demanding big government socialism. They simply elect male politicians to deliver it.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 19:45 | 4596404 JLee2027
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Limiting the vote to property owners only solves that issue. Like the Founders intended. There is no reason why women cannot be property owners and have a vote. Instead we gave them the right to vote, wrong path to take.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 19:39 | 4596376 JLee2027
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Millions of years?

You act as if evolution were proven fact. The weight of unbiased scientific evidence - lack of transitional fossils of any kind - says evolution never happened. You cannot blame it for behavior.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:02 | 4594943 Herd Redirectio...
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Its not what you know, its who you know.

Or rather, its what you know about who you know (blackmail, any one).

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:16 | 4595008 Ms No
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It is, it is.  If anyone is interested in reading the science behind group psychopathy this is a must read.

This problem has a pretty simple solution.  Empathy is a trait that can be easily tested for based on physiological responses to disturbing videos or images.  These responses cannot be hidden.  If you see a kid being beat to hell and you don't have a response of horror, fear, anger etc...  You are a psychopath.  Politicians and financial leaders should be tested, this small group of people have ruined life on Earth long enough.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:57 | 4595230 Uncle Remus
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Voight-Kampf the mfers, then retirement.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:17 | 4595015 Oh regional Indian
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Dune says it best...

  • All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible. Such people have a tendency to become drunk on violence, a condition to which they are quickly addicted.
    • Missionaria Protectiva, Text QIV (decto)
Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:47 | 4595197 Ms No
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That quote is so dead on.  It refutes the inaccurate, defeatist attitude that living in a society controlled by paths is the normal state of things and that there is nothing we can do.  Greece solved this problem for a time by forcing good men to hold office and holding their assets and themselves responsible for corruption.  These were not men who craved power, these were men that were truly chosen by the population.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 16:42 | 4595231 KickIce
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We've also allowed them to discount the lessons of our Founding Fathers and dismiss their messages as outdated.  They understood tyranny all too well and that is a lesson that should be heeded by every generation.  We've also allowed them to take God out of our schools.  I'm sure I'll get junked for this but Church and State is not equal to God and State, even Harvard used to put emphasis on God in their classrooms.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:38 | 4594748 McMolotov
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The phrase "our system" implies that we've all worked together, for good or ill, to get to this point. I think it should be quite obvious by now that there are some very competent sociopaths behind the scenes, that they're the ones who are ultimately in charge, and that their plan is to concentrate power even further. There is no "our system" because the system belongs to them.

The "incompetent sociopaths" are cogs in the machine, chosen to be the face of the system, and their incompetence is, for all intents and purposes, either insignificant or an illusion because it is part of a larger plan.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 20:43 | 4596613 acetinker
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Some years ago, a fellow named John Carson knocked on my door and asked for my vote for a state rep position.  He said, "what would I have to say to earn your vote"?  I told him that he'd have to say that he wouldn't wish this job on his worst enemy, but that he needed it in order to restore a semblance of honor and integrity to state government.

He thought for a second, and responded, "Nobody's going to say that."

Clueless, he was.  Now he is my state rep.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 16:59 | 4595610 Blammo
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I call this, the "tyrant gene"......Those who seek power have it. Those who don't seek power don't have it. Catch 22ish!

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 20:06 | 4596473 Buck Johnson
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Exactly, and even back thousands of years ago they couldn't get it right. 

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 01:56 | 4597526 Canoe Driver
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I'm not sure they all SHUN power. It's more like the sociopathic powerful instinctively suppress the honest and competent in their midst. Do not forget that the Khmer Rouge took to shooting people just for wearing glasses.  All societies, throughout history, and in various ways, have oppressed and supressed their intellectual classes.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:24 | 4594700 Four chan
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it all starts with the feds unlimited printing money, for our constitutionally limited republic.

or 1 minute earlier when congress gave up the power of the nations currency to rothschilds fed.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:34 | 4594763 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  1 minute earlier

Or one minute earlier when sociopaths were elected by dumbasses to Congress.

We've got the only system possible.   Who ELSE but a sociopaths would be a leader of dumbasses?

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:59 | 4594925 Herd Redirectio...
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Who ELSE but a sociopaths would pretend to be virgins sent to reform a whorehouse?

Fixed it.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:18 | 4595010 MrPalladium
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Doncha just love the end point of Marxist theory - that the product of absolute power and centralized state planning will be the ultimate dissolution of the state!!

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 05:57 | 4607324 Kobe Beef
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Something tells me they are lying.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:25 | 4594705 Dollarmedes
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I *mostly* agree with this, but with one caveat: At no time in human history have a large majority of citizens ever behaved in a responsible manner. There are always tons of free rider citizens. The difference these days is that a few extra percentage points of the ignorant have been led to believe that they know enough to vote, when they clearly don't. These are the results of the "self esteem" movement.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:53 | 4594889 Dollarmedes
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Additionally, some of the ignorant know they're ignorant but don't care, because FREE STUFF! This is a result of the "death of shame" and the elevation of corrupt self-interest. These two motives apply not only to the individual citizens, but to the corporate cronies that we rail against so regularly here.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:27 | 4595081 NOTaREALmerican
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That's why it's tough to have a individualized "society".  

If humans win by being sociopaths then a society will simply be a feeding ground for the sociopaths.  

Unless, society can figure out a set of rules to keep the sociopaths in check.   Unfortunately, sociopaths (being the sociopaths they are) create bullshit for the dumbasses about how the rules only apply to the dumbasses. 

"Shame" is a tough "rule" to apply to sociopaths.     The sociopaths generally turn the "shame" rule against the innocent (non sociopaths) and the dumbasses punish the innocent. 

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:36 | 4595132 Dollarmedes
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Shame isn't for the sociopaths (since they have none), it is a social marker for everyone else so that they know to avoid the sociopath.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 17:28 | 4595741 mc225
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double-plus-good on the idea of 'competence in government'.


Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:21 | 4594694 Theta_Burn
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You mean it's not a prerequisite?

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:40 | 4594747 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  libtard

What about "Conservatives" who think Snowdon is a traitor?

What about "Conservatives" who supported the "Patriot Act"?

The problem isn't JUST libtards.  It's anybody who worships Authoritarian government.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:23 | 4595024 vie
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People who bitch and whine about libtards... basically just as bad as said "libtards who think they know everything".  Stop looking for someone to blame, what are you doing to fix it?

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:26 | 4595065 MrPalladium
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The system is very skilled at manipulating symbols so as to provide the average prole with false sensations of evolutionary fitness. The authoritarian government in charge of the supposed "city on a hill" is a winner, and just as the average male will identify with and recieve false sensations of evolutionary fitness from their favorite sports teams, from video game conquests and porn, so too claiming to be a "team member" of the all powerful U.S of A provides them with yet another set of false sensations of evolutionary fitness.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:52 | 4595239 Errol
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MrPalladium, excellent insight.  I will extend it further: you have explained the reason that Americans will give up their SUVs when you pry their cold, dead hands off the steering wheel: it provides STRONG false sensations of evolutionary fitness.  This goes double for all the gasoline powered prosthetics beloved by modern males: jet skis, ATVs, snowmobiles, monster trucks, etc.  Ditto for military jet fighters, tanks, MWRAPs, etc.

Petroleum provides so many ways to feel false sensations of evolutionary fitness; it's no surprise that people will kill as many "other" people as necessary to keep the spice flowing.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 18:17 | 4595968 MrPalladium
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Wow!! Looks like you have been reading Professor Geoffrey Miller of U. New Mexico.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 17:29 | 4595750 mc225
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'false sensations of evolutionary fitness'... that's gold

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 18:47 | 4596118 MrPalladium
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Real fitness is a job, a wife, kids and the support of a local congregation of people you know and support (and not necessarily a religious congregation).

False sensations of fitness are what you get from video game victories, driving an SUV, cheering for your favorite sports team, and becoming a fan of a candidate for President or Congress.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:54 | 4595222 IdiocracyIsAlre...
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Thank you NOTaREALmerican!  If I hear the term "libtard" again from the oh-so-supposedly-enlightened commenters on ZH I am going to scream.  If people are still buying the faux left/right red/blue faux divide that TPTB keep feeding the masses then they are no better than the sheeple inhabiting RedState or DKos.

The ONLY true divide is authoritarians vs. libertarians (small "l", not astroturf groups calling themselves "Libertarian")

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:54 | 4595247 Uncle Remus
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Like, nazis?

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:58 | 4594918 headhunt
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One of the primary reason people are liberal is because they are self centered and selfish.

Once that is their mantra, realized or unrealized, the liberal agenda fits them like a glove.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:06 | 4594964 GeorgeHayduke
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"...because they are self centered and selfish."

A little research my show how off the mark you are with this comment.Do we hear conservatives or liberals whining about welfare queens and entitlements?

My own experience has shown that conservatives are much more selfish and living in a fear-based world. How many conservatives do you think sign up for Doctors without Borders?

People of all political stripes van be self centered and selfish, but my own life experience has shown conservatives are much more self-centered, selfish and smug. Yours may be different, if you actually know any liberals and not just the strawmen you build in your own mind.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:32 | 4595094 vie
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Indeed there's always people who want free stuff, whether it's welfare queens, or corporate cronies.  If anything most "liberals" are manipulated by their emotions.  They're the first in line to sacrifice for another if it means their fellow man isn't going to suffer... they're just perhaps under the mis-guided belief that the state is your friend.

You get sociopaths of both types... survival of the fittest, screw everyone else while I eat their lunch... and the parasites.  What we're talking about here... the people running the show are the first type.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:42 | 4595166 GeorgeHayduke
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Right...liberals are emotion-based. That's one of the big lies of conservatism. Conservatives are extremely emotional in their decision making. That's why conservatives can hold contradictory points of views like calling themselves pro-life and then being the biggest war hawks in the world. Right wing think tanks knew this and that's why they dream up crap like "death tax" or Pro-life" for people who are more emotionally attached to their beliefs and to a reality-based view of the world. Recognizing your own self delusions is the first step toward healing.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 20:57 | 4596669 acetinker
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George, socially I'm a liberal.  Fiscally I'm conservative.  If you want the false division of conservative -vs- liberal to die, you have to ignore it.

"We're all in this alone".  -Lily Tomlin

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:35 | 4595098 MrPalladium
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Liberalism is all self centered status display!

Where are the great migrations of white liberals moving into black center city ghettos??

It is all self centered status display laced with a large helping of hypocrisy.

The primal urge of all liberals is to distance themselves from their fellow white fundamentalist Christians and from hillbillies and other working class whites who, to the liberal mind, shamelessly articulate and inject into their politics their bluntly stated self interest as they are forced to do by their reduced circumstances.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:40 | 4595156 vie
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If we've learned anything, what's important here is that people fight amongst each other while the assholes running the show continue to get away with treason.

Good job everyone, good job.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 16:22 | 4595383 MrPalladium
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The premise of your snark is that all of us have the same interests and can unite to overturn the system. But the system is based on three hundred years of enlightenment ideology with its secular religion of human equality, and its totalitarian premise is that an enlightened liberal elite is needed to manage and cure the manifest human inequality that we see all around us.

Liberalism with its preening status displays and its obviously false selcular religions are the fundamental building blocks of our current malaise, and pretending that these liberals will stand down and abandon the centralized state and renounce its power is pure delusion.

The system has broad political support. It is not a narrow cabal against which we can all join hands and effortlessly sweep away. In truth, overturning the deep state will rquire sweeping away a broad swath of our population - a swath that is determined to merely tinker with the system so as to continue enforcing the enlightenment goal of human equality and equally determined to outlaw absolutely and punish any opposition to the egalitarian ideal which they so nobly uphold. Anyone who does not understand this deludes himself.

A revolution of the necessary magnitude will never be built on a platform of sound money alone, desirable and necessary as that may be. After all, an attack on the power and reach of the centralized state will always be seen as an attack on the enlightement ideal of human equality. For the true liberal, the fact that oligarchs use the power of the central state to enrich themselves is a small price to pay for attainment of the egalitarian ideal, just like the millions of political murders by Lenin and his NKVD henchmen was a small price to pay for the attainment of the egalitarian ideal.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 16:56 | 4595595 GeorgeHayduke
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" enlightened liberal elite is needed to manage and cure the manifest human inequality that we see all around us."

Meanwhile the religous-based conservatives of the Dark Ages gave us the wonderful "Divine Right of Kings" to explain why some people get to have everything, including the power of deciding life or death over their "subjects" while others have nothing but poverty, peonage and serfdom for generations. That is until liberals of their time decided to fight against their kings and monarchs while the conservatives of those times supported their kings and monarchs. Also remember that those non-secular religious folks exterminated millions of indigenous peoples because they saw them as so much more inferior than themselves. After all, they knew god was on their side.

Also, the liberals I know believe more in democracy than an oligarchy of elites. Maybe you're doing a little projecting there in your analysis. Also, your use of the term secular religion might lead us to believe you're still clinging to your own non-secular religious beliefs in your analysis. That view in itself brings it's owns thought slavery and will likely lead to no better situation for anyone except those who belief the same religion as those in charge. That's been tried before. Many times, and most cultures that do go in that direction aren't viewed in a positive light by modern standards. Few make any achievements or advancements beyond tribute to their selected deity.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 18:33 | 4596048 MrPalladium
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"Meanwhile the religous-based conservatives of the Dark Ages gave us the wonderful "Divine Right of Kings" "


The very most powerful armed thugs gave us "Divine Right of Kings."

And because these most powerful armed thugs would conquer and dominate enemy tribes or ethnic groups they needed to invent this "divine right" thing to divert attention from the fact that the conquerer had different tribal or ethnic origins and thus would be likely to favor his own kinship group. Of course the church demanded a price for supporting this deception. And thus was born modern "universalism" which was aped by the lesser nobles (thugs) who for an assortment of reasons also wanted to be set apart from the lowly tribesmen from whom they were descended and to whom they were related by blood. The road to upward mobility for the noble was to renounce and oppose the interests of his own kind.

Nothing has changed except that the disease has spread to the upper middle class following the enlightenment.

Western civilization is all about status seeking.


Wed, 03/26/2014 - 19:14 | 4596263 pashley1411
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god what a terrible post.   as they say, doesn't even rise to the point of being wrong.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:52 | 4595232 GeorgeHayduke
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They do move back into the city, but usually after the neighborhoods have been gentrified and the poor people move out. But hey, it does happen.

Sorry, but I've yet to see any moral superiority on the parrt of conservatives or liberals in this country. But the one thing I do know is no country has advanced and become more civilized based on the current conservative views in their society. If everyone followed the conservatives of their time, we would not have had the Revolutionary war. Funny how conservatives of today worship the founding fathers without putting things in perspective.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 17:04 | 4595631 BigJim
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 My own experience has shown that conservatives are much more selfish 

I don't identify with most 'conservatives' (most of whom are keen on small gov and yet somehow want a big military as well) but I think if you research the matter, conservatives give WAY more to charity than 'liberals'*. 'Liberals' are very keen for higher taxation so that the monies can be given to their favorite causes, but expecting other people to support one's moral choices at the point of a gun is not the opposite of selfish.

*I enclose 'liberals' because, of course, 'liberal' used to mean someone who wanted small government and minimal governmental interferance in the everyday affairs of the citizenry. 

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 17:15 | 4595674 GeorgeHayduke
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Valid, yet if you look into it I'd suspect that most of the conservative charitable giving is for their own good, like giving to their church, their gun club, their social club. While that is charitable there is an element of selfishness with it.

As for liberals seeing government and taxes as the way to deal with social problems, that makes sense to their way of thinking. just as conservatives see giving to their chosen groups as making sense. Conservatives are still thinking in a small community minded way while liberals are looking at the government as a larger entity to address larger problems. Both have their place.

The world is no longer a bunch of little communities all doing their own thing while not worrying about sending their sewage down river to the next city who just has to deal with it. Things get more complicated as things get more complex. As much as we might want to pine for the small government of 1776, it's not 1776 anymore and things have changed considerably.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:08 | 4594966 CH1
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Blue/Red = Bullshit.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:21 | 4595034 vie
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Divide and Conquer, BITCHEZ!

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:00 | 4594933 GeorgeHayduke
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Interesting take considering the conservatives I know believe they have everything figured out too. For an example, look at George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. They knew they had it all figured out and didn't care what the people wanted. The same thing I hear whiny conservative accusing Obama of doing. They're all the same.

Likely the problem goes a whole lot deep than liberal or conservative. Although I do realize many people cannot think much deeper than that, hence the reason sociopaths can rise to power to easily in the long as it's their sociopath.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:36 | 4595137 MrPalladium
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Bush and Cheney were not conservatives.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:43 | 4595178 GeorgeHayduke
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Is Obama a liberal then?

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 16:07 | 4595348 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  Bush and Cheney were not conservatives.

How many Conservatives actually exists then?

Lots of "Conservatives" voting for the Red Team.  

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 18:07 | 4595913 css1971
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You are talking about the Dunning-Kruger effect..

It is particularly prevalent among educated individuals, they believe their education/competence in one narrow field means that they are more competent than average in other unrelated fields, when in fact they are incompetent, You see it all the time when actors are asked about politics or (real) Nobel prize winning physicists comment on biology and biochemistry.


Sun, 03/30/2014 - 06:05 | 4607331 Kobe Beef
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I saw this all the time as a stockbroker: the absolute worst investors were doctors, lawyers, and otherwise intelligent professionals who thought they knew everything.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:01 | 4594939 tempo
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Both Obama/Clinton were raised w/o their fathers. Obama's dad abandoned him, that's a problem waiting to explode.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:12 | 4594635 PlusTic
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I'd prefer "competent psychopaths"...they get shitt done!

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:29 | 4594720 Kirk2NCC1701
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You quoting Jamin Dimon or Lord Bankfine?

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:00 | 4594931 headhunt
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Watch what you wish for; Hitler was pretty competent in achieving his agendas.

I suspect pelosi would be pretty competent also.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:42 | 4595168 dizzyfingers
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PlusTic   "A typical sociopath never kills anybody"

"Competent psychopaths" may simply be better murderers and less competent at other things.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:12 | 4594640 Dollarmedes
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For 200 years, our system largely did not hire incompetent sociopaths. The problem is that Americans have become deeply unserious.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:21 | 4594691 Headbanger
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Because Obama!

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:28 | 4594714 Dollarmedes
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No, Obama isn't the cause. He's the effect.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:36 | 4594787 Dollarmedes
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If you want to discuss the true roots of the Obama result:

1) Disposable pop culture that makes cool valued more highly than wise.

2) Educational malpractice. The US public education system (and increasingly, the universities) is a sick joke that actually harms students. They would literally be better off NOT going to public school.

3) Prosperity. Having it "too good for too long" has lulled the citizens into complacency; not least of which are the newest generations that think peace and prosperity are the norms.


What you get are ignorant citizens that elect the president based on "who would you rather have a beer with," but think they're all special snowflakes that know enough to make an informed decision. And if they make a mistake, they think there won't be any dire consequences since peace and prosperity are taken for granted.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:40 | 4594806 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  Disposable pop culture that makes cool valued more highly than wise.

You mean the 60's (yet) again?    

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:46 | 4594858 insanelysane
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But this time pot will be legalized.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:03 | 4594949 Dollarmedes
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The difficulty in correcting this situation comes from the recalcitrance/petulance/fickleness of the voters. They don't like being told that they've acted foolishly, and tend to blame the messenger in that case.

The solution is not to tell them, but to show them:

- When American influence wanes, the world becomes more dangerous. (see: Ukraine, south China seas, etc.)

- When socialists are elected, expect economic malaise. (see: every western country, and some non-western ones too)

- When the rule of law is corrupted, expect fascism. (see: Obama administration, especially Obamacare)


I've often said "socialism is it's own cure, assuming it doesn't kill the patient."

Teh People (tm) are about to get an education in how things really work. They're starting to get the idea, and I think the 2014 elections will show this. But there's still too many that refuse to see the light. Things are going to have to fall apart before they "get it."

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:19 | 4595023 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  especially Obamacare

We've had 60+ years of leaches living off of and looting Big-Ag, Big-MIC, Big-Road, Big-Water, Big-Airport, Big-Energy, Big-Ed, Big-House, Big-Fin, Big-OldFart, Big-OldFartHealthcare, & Big-AntiDrug?

Why are people so obsessed about "ObamaCare" starting socialism?   Aren't the OldFarts the worse socialists? 

Socialism didn't start 5 years ago.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:31 | 4595110 Dollarmedes
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True. There are many older Republicans that think they're entitled to their social security checks because they paid into the system. Never mind that they've already taken out more than they contributed, even accounting for interest on their contributions.

Of course, establishing an entitlement mentality was exactly why SS was sold that way. It isn't insurance, it's a ponzi scheme.


There are many wealth-transfer schemes that will be overturned when the house of cards falls.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:38 | 4595145 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  There are many wealth-transfer schemes

and it's tough to tell people their own Big-Gov scam is nothing but a socialist wealth-transfer scam.

So,  ObamaCare is just another in a long line of them.   Doesn't make it right, but once people see one group living the happy socialist scam life,  they want in on the happiness too.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:46 | 4595196 GeorgeHayduke
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"...and it's tough to tell people their own Big-Gov scam is nothing but a socialist wealth-transfer scam."

Correct! It has been transfering wealth to the top since at least Reagan and his trickle down bullshit theory. Socialism for the wealthy and the poorest, and dog eat dog capitalism for those in the middle. Funny thing is the conservatives will fight to keep the socialism flowing to those on the top and the liberal will fight to keep flowing to those on the bottom.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:50 | 4595221 dizzyfingers
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How about since Franklin Roosevelt -- a very rich limousine liberal?

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 16:04 | 4595320 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  How about since Franklin Roosevelt -- a very rich limousine liberal?

The first transcontinental railroad was a socialist / crony-capitalist scam. 

Sociopaths screwing dumbasses for fun-n-profit is what we call "progress".  

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 16:09 | 4595361 IdiocracyIsAlre...
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Obamacare is merely a culmination of the last half century of Corporate Socialism, starting with the insane buildup of the MIC during the so-called "Cold War".  It certainly is an appalling policy but no more so than any of the other Big-Gov policies you referenced, many of which were cheered on by faux liberty lovers of what for a lack of a better term would be what we know as the "right" or "conservatives".  And now they have woken up?  I call bullshit on that.  If it happened as BushCare many of the same people would be calling us traitors or socialist for opposing it, just as they did with the Patriot Act and the Iraq War. 

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 16:43 | 4595506 Radical Marijuana
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Maybe, insanelysane, however, that fake "legalization" is becoming neoprohibitionist regimes where regulations and taxes make the marijuana still be as expensive as it was in the black market. The only apparent differences will be that legal cartels will have taken over from illegal cartels. Marijuana is being "legalized" in the worst possible ways, which are way too late, too little, and too trivial to matter much. Hemp Truth is not guiding those kinds of fake legalizations, but rather compromises with the same old Huge Lies is directing what fake "legalization" actually does. The mainstream "legalize" marijuana movements are dominated by morons, who deliberately refuse to perceive or promote more radical truth about anything, and especially do not promote Hemp Truth.

While the majority of people no longer believe in the Huge Lies about marijuana, and the majority are now in favour of "legalization," their hopes for change are being steered into the same old deceitful and hypocritical dead end cul de sacs as President Obama's promises of Hope and Change.

How hemp became marijuana, so that all cannabis cultivation was criminalized, is the single simplest symbol of the ways that society is almost totally controlled by legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, due to governments being almost completely dominated by evil sociopaths. There are no sufficiently good ways to "legalize marijuana" that are not based upon enough Hemp Truth to comprehend how and why it was BECAUSE hemp is the single best plant on the planet for people, that the war against marijuana became the majority of the war on drugs.

Currently, the "legalization" of marijuana is taking place in a way that is analogous to people agreeing that the world is a big cube, as a compromise with the Huge Lie that the Earth was flat. The "legalization" of marijuana is taking place inside of society that is still being about 99% dominated by sociopaths controlling everything else that the government is doing. It is arguable that for cannabis to continue to be criminalized is better than the fake "legalization" that is being promoted by the mainstream moron marijuana movements, which deliberately ignore the bigger picture, and prefer to be practical by compromising with the old Huge Lies, rather that insist upon the more radical Hemp Truth.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:56 | 4594914 marathonman
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The disposable pop culture is just another propaganda campaign.  Its part of a larger agenda to erode moral values to create more state dependants and increase voting power.  Evil?  Yes. 

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 16:19 | 4595428 IdiocracyIsAlre...
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I would disagree that it is a plot to undermine "moral values" and more a systematic way to undermine intelligence and independent thinking.  I always have to suppress a gag reflex when the term "moral values" is used anyway - many of the people who see themselves as paragons of morality are nothing more than cheerleaders for war, authoritarianism and oppression of people who don't agree with them

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:18 | 4595017 GeorgeHayduke
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You might be over analyzing this whole thing. In 2008 the choice was between Obama and Biden or McCain and Palin. People thought McCain and Palin would be more of the same, so they elected Obama hoping for change, but they still got more of the same. Same goes for 2012. Romney came off as an arrogant asshole to most folks so they voted for the asshole they already knew.

This system is designed to protect itself. It has many layer built into to ensure nothing of significance changes and to keep those with wealth and power in a position of wealth and power. Name one major piece of legislation out of Washington, DC since Reagan that was designed to really help out the working class/majority of people in this country. One. Anyone? Anyone? All of it is passed to help special interests, usually those with the most lobbyists. I know those on the right belive this to be communist liberal organizations, but that just goes to show how out of touch with reality those folks really are.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:29 | 4594717 NotApplicable
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Checks and balances are racist, dontcha know?

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:38 | 4594797 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  The problem is that Americans have become deeply unserious.

That happens when a society become wealthy.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:13 | 4594645 q99x2
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Bullying, Tell me it ain't so. We'll have none of that at this fight club.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:16 | 4594654 Rising Sun
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endless growth, endless printing, endless sociopaths


next time, instead of dropping cash from helicopters, we are going to duct tape you up and drop you from a fuckng helicopter Bernanke you fucking cocksucking asshole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:25 | 4595068 GeorgeHayduke
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Endless growth is a basic flaw of our current economic system. But it comes from a more basically flawed thought, which is the whole man has dominion over everything in this world, as taught by most modern religions. Instead of being a part of the world, we view ourselves separate from it.

People view themselves as just in transition here, until they get to heaven, so why not trash everything since they're going to a better place anyway? When I see these Christians with their "Not Of This World" stickers on their cars, I want to ask them if they can please get moving on their way to their world right now so we don't have to deal with them in this world.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 16:34 | 4595507 IdiocracyIsAlre...
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^+1000.  There are many, many times I wish the "rapture" was real.  I know my aggravation level would go way down!

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:16 | 4594656 buzzsaw99
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It is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it... [/Douglas Adams]

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:17 | 4594661 Future Jim
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I have yet to find two sources who agree on the definition of a sociopath or psychopath, and now the confusion is even greater because socialists have started refrring to anyone who disgrees with them a sociopath. I guess they got tired of calling everyone who diagrees with them a racist.

There is indeed a character devolution in America and it is indeed caused by our system because we have gotten so far away from a free market and so far away from America's other founding principles too.

Here is an excerpt:

What is Wrong With the People.

First, there is plenty of reason for hope, so don’t despair, but …

Something is wrong with the people, who seem increasingly partisan, ignorant, apathetic, dishonest, evasive, cowardly, hypocritical, passive aggressive, insecure, conformist, closed minded, irrational, illogical, and unprincipled. Perhaps most obvious is the increase in cognitive dissonance, but the entirety of the character devolution of the people should be really obvious to any American who has lived long enough. I first noticed it during the Clinton Administration, but the root cause actually started long before that and merely caused a rather obvious leap under Clinton.

A lifetime of experience has taught me that just about everyone has the potential for the dark side as well as the potential for nobility. Both impulses are in our genes, but something in our environment is favoring the dark side.

First, let’s identify the rather obvious trends that motivate us to find a cause. Then, we will learn how they all have the same root cause:

Before we can solve a problem, we usually must understand the cause; otherwise, the unintended consequences could be worse than the original problem. In fact, the solutions of the past are the cause of most of our problems today.

Given that those who are most successful tend to be those who are least principled, we can see why every other problem is the result of unhealthy interventions at the top, but how did it get to be this way?

After a few generations of unhealthy interventions from the top by men who may or may not have been principled, we can see how their bad solutions created a perverse incentive structure that rewards bad behavior and punishes good behavior. Just like bad parenting creates a spoiled child who suffers from arrested development, now an entire people are increasingly spoiled children who suffer from arrested development.

The Soviet Union had a system that rewarded unprincipled people, and it crumbled from within.

Everything afflicting the people (that wasn’t caused by evolution) is caused by dishonest banking and a dishonest money supply, and the watershed of problems are self reinforcing. One unusually large cause of problems, that was itself indirectly caused by dishonest banking and dishonest money, is political correctness. Another unusually large cause of problems that was itself indirectly caused by dishonest banking and dishonest money, is media bias. Of course, the chain of cause and effect is long, complex, and suppressed by the media; whereas, myths are substituted by the media, but the chain of cause and effect should be clear by the end of this article.

This is where the real explanation begins.

Dishonest banking and money are caused by:

  • Central banking
  • Fiat currency
  • Fractional reserve banking
  • Quantitative easing
  • Zero Interest Rate Policy (ZIRP)

Central Banking: The Federal Reserve is a private bank with a government granted monopoly on currency creation; whereas, money is a product just like any other, and thus would benefit from competition just like any other product. Why do you think the Federal Reserve refuses to be audited? Central banking was universally considered dishonest until the 20th century.

Fiat Currency: What most people still don’t know is that all of the money in America is created from nothing and backed by nothing except confidence, and thus it is referred to as fiat currency. Fiat currency was universally considered dishonest until the 20th century.

Fractional Reserve Banking:  The main cause of fiat currency is that banks can lend at least ten times as much money as they receive in deposits, and depending on the type of loan and type of deposit, it can be even more. Over time, the government has been making it increasingly easier for banks to create more unearned money out of nothing. This is known as fractional reserve banking, which was universally considered dishonest until the 20th century.

Quantitative Easing: In addition to fractional reserve banking, under Obama, the Federal reserve has been creating a much larger than usual amount of money and loaning it to the government and the banks. This is known as quantitative easing, which was universally considered dishonest until the 2oth century.

ZIRP: The federal reserve has reduced the interest rates to nearly zero percent on money it loans to the government and on money it loans to those banks who own the Federal Reserve.  This is known as Zero Interest Rate Policy (ZIRP), which was universally considered dishonest until the 20th century.

Consider that any entity who borrows money at zero interest has little incentive to ever pay it back, and will in fact have much incentive to keep borrowing. That’s a very corrupting influence.

Bailouts: Before Quantitative Easing and ZIRP, the government tried bailouts. Does anyone believe that the crash of 2008 and many of its prerequisites would have happened if all the self-proclaimed Elites had been certain that bailouts were an impossibility? It is almost as if bailouts were part of some plan.

Bailouts are unconstitutional, but they happened anyway, so we see that it is really just the character of the American people that gives the Constitution its power, and the American people lacked the character to stop the bailouts. It is almost as if character devolution were part of some plan.

Bailouts were universally considered dishonest until Obama.

Cronyism: Dishonest banking causes the government and the big banks to receive a flood of unearned money, which then finds it way to their closest cronies, which thus tempts cronies to become closer cronies and which tempts honest entities to become first-time cronies. This is called cronyism, and although it has been growing for a long time, it was universally considered to be dishonest – until Obama became the President.

Government rewards cronies with bailouts, contracts, tax breaks, regulations that help the crony and/or hurt honest competitors, and with selective enforcement of laws and regulations. Once the media became cronies, then media bias also helped other cronies and hurt honest competitors.

Once cronyism took hold at the top of government, the cronyism trickled down to the local level. Cronies in local government thus have the support of the cronies directly above them.

A system that favors cronyism makes it increasingly difficult for honest individuals and honest businesses to compete with cronies. It also manufactures more cronies by corrupting honest people. Furthermore, the dwindling number of men of principle limit their success by avoiding doing business with cronies.

Dishonest bankers corrupted honest banking, which then corrupted government, which then corrupted the free-market, which thus corrupted the people, which thus reduced entrepreneurship, innovation, efficiency, and honesty.

Inflation: Newly created dollars make each existing dollar worth less than before, and thus a reason to be first in line for the new money is the ability to spend it before each dollar has become worth less than it would have been worth – had the new money never been created. This is called inflation, which was universally considered dishonest before FDR.

Inflation is like a tax of several percent a year on every dollar in existence. It makes prices permanently higher than they would have been. The recipient of the inflation tax is whoever received the new money before it inflated prices. Inflation is theft.

Therefore, inflation tempts honest people to compete to be first in line.

Misallocation of Capital: More than ever before, there is a flood of new money at near zero percent interest rates. This new money often starts off in investment banks and thus much of it naturally finds it way into financial instruments, which thus creates even more incentive to bet the rest of the new money on financial instruments such as stocks, bonds, hedge funds, derivatives, collateralized debt obligations, credit default swaps, and options.

Consider the alternatives available to anyone who had access to unlimited new money at zero percent interest rates. Would he spend the effort to evaluate and fund your idea for a product which has a 50% chance of making him 10 million dollars in five years, and which is in a field he knows nothing about, and which will have even less chance of success than before – given inflation, cronyism, and the increased interest in financial instruments? – OR – Would he instead invest in financial instruments and in bribing politicians given that those have the potential for more profit and faster profit, and that he is already intimately familiar with such investments? If he loses, he can always just borrow more at zero interest.

Consider the alternatives of an MIT graduate who could invent a product that could attract investment capital. He could make an engineer’s salary, and then maybe someday invent something that would make him a couple of million dollars after years of saving or after increasingly difficult competition with financial instruments for investment capital. – OR – He could work for Goldman Sachs and make three times as much right away, and have three times the opportunity to make a couple of million dollars, and do it three times sooner. This is like The Funger Games.

Suppose government has more money to spend. That means more labor is directed toward government projects and less labor is available for projects that are capable of earning enough money from voluntary customers to pay for themselves. At the same time, inflation resulting from government borrowing reduces the value each dollar spent on projects capable of earning enough money from voluntary customers to pay for themselves.

These are examples of misallocations of capital resulting from interventions in the free-market, and are caused by dishonest banking. Misallocation of capital was universally considered unhealthy before FDR.

The Seen vs. The Unseen: Misallocation of capital is very hard to detect because of “the seen vs. the unseen”, which is a phenomenon first identified by Frederic Bastiat in 1850. Whereas, we can easily see the jobs created by the new money at zero interest, only one man in a million can see the jobs that were lost or never created because of the new money.

An additional hurdle is the bias of a crony media cheering for the new money projects and ridiculing those one in a million who can see the lost jobs and who can see that they were higher quality jobs because they would have been making something for which people would have voluntarily paid enough to generate a profit; whereas, crony jobs were created as a result of cronyism, taxes, bribes, and free money.

The “seen vs. the unseen” was universal knowledge – before government schools.

The Broken Window Fallacy: One way to penetrate the media bias and “the seen vs. the unseen” is the broken window fallacy, which is another idea from Frederic Bastiat in 1850.

Consider that progressives claim that all government spending, such as war, helps the economy as much as, and usually more than, any private spending. The progressive argument is another version of the argument that if a kid breaks a window, then that helps the economy because the capital spent on fixing the broken window created more work for the carpenter and more work for the window maker.

Whereas, we can easily see the jobs created by the capital spent on fixing broken windows, we cannot easily see the jobs that would have been created by that same capital if the windows had never been broken. Both labor and physical resources were obviously wasted in such a misallocation of capital.

Sooner or later the capital would have been used create something the owner thought customers would voluntarily pay enough for to earn him a profit. If the owner couldn’t think of any use for his capital, then he or his bank would loan it out to any borrower who did have an idea to create something the borrower thought customers would voluntarily pay enough for to earn him a profit and pay the interest on the loan.

The broken window fallacy so easily penetrates the seen vs. the unseen that it made it difficult for governments to borrow such great sums of money, and thus great effort has been spent by economists and other cronies to deny or circumvent the broken window fallacy. The pressure to deny reality has corrupted many economists because the surest path to obscurity in economics has been to embrace reality.

Keynesianism: The broken window fallacy was universally accepted until John Maynard Keynes developed the obfuscation that so delights dishonest bankers, governments, and cronies to this day. Keynes said that if people were unemployed, and if capital were not being used at that moment, then government should take that capital in the form of taxes, or borrow money, and spend it on some kind of project – any kind of project.

Keynesianism has been the dominant economic theory since FDR. Consider that Nobel Prize winning economist Paul Krugman recently said that the best thing that could happen to the economy would be fighting off an alien invasion! or building the Death Star! or just plain old war! Of course, we could just build some pyramids or some bridges to nowhere too. We could even just dig some holes and fill them up again. We could make them dig with spoons to maximize employment.

Like I said, the pressure to deny reality has corrupted many economists because the surest path to obscurity in economics has been to embrace reality. Fortunately that has been changing rapidly since the Great Crash of 2008 and the ongoing economic malaise since.

The New Plantation: In order to buy off a majority in a pseudo democracy, the dishonest bankers and their cronies understood that they needed a lot more cronies, and that it would be pretty easy to buy the poorest people with all that free money and with the bias of their cronies in the media. Hence they invented the New Deal and then the War on Poverty.

They are not even spending their own money. They just create it and loan it to the government, and then the middle class must pay it back to them (through taxes) – and with interest! These programs are unconstitutional, and are also taxation without representation for those who were too young to vote against the programs or the against borrowing. This is why I say the federal debt is not legitimate.

The War on Poverty has enslaved the black community. Government dependency is the new plantation. The black community has thus been neutralized and pacified and only causes damage to itself and is no threat to the dishonest bankers.

Winning an election in America is just about impossible if a candidate is perceived to be unsupportive of government dependency. If a candidate does not conform on this issue, or on other issues as well, then the crony media will paint him as an uncaring racist who hates poor people. Not only does this system prevent men of character from winning, but such a repulsive system naturally discourages men of character from running for political office in the first place.

In addition to corrupting or discouraging honest candidates. Teaching people that they can’t survive without being given the fruits of other men’s labor is a corrupting influence on their character. It is an atrocity of progressivism on a grand scale.

A few brave black men have come forth to expose how the Democratic Party have enslaved the black community on the new plantation. They call themselves “runaway slaves”. Some are the one in a million who can see what would have been (they can see the unseen), and some are just honest, independent minded men of principle. They are mercilessly ridiculed by the crony media when not being completely ignored by them. They are among my heroes.

Affirmative Action: In a wealthy country like America, the trinkets of the new plantation could not corrupt enough voters, so the dishonest bankers and their cronies in government and the media then invented affirmative action, which lets a woman or an individual from a racial minority sue an employee and his company for millions if that company fired him, didn’t hire him, or didn’t promote him. Ironically, the potential of such lawsuits is a rational reason not to hire someone. Likewise, another irony is how it raises the rational question of whether someone is competent if they benefited from affirmative action.

Of course, if the assumption were correct that hiring a given number of women and minorities is profitable for a company, then that would have obviously happened by now without government interference. To understand why, suppose those companies who hired women and minorities outcompeted those who did not, then other companies would either emulate their success or go out of business. If hiring women and minorities does not make your business more profitable, then why should the government destroy your business unless you hire them anyway?  Either way, to interfere in a private business is fascism.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:20 | 4594684 Dollarmedes
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Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:22 | 4594695 insanelysane
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Someday the programmers that program blogs will put in a comment size restriction to 10% of the word count of the original article.  Let alone allow a comment twice as large.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:53 | 4594892 Future Jim
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That was just an excerpt ... I encourage everyone to read the second half of it at What is Wrong with the People.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:16 | 4595011 Dollarmedes
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Wow. In that case, I have a word for you: summarize.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:24 | 4594702 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  so the dishonest bankers and their cronies in government and the media then invented affirmative action

Unless, of course, the racial minority or women were actually being screwed and "they" didn't "invent" it.

Did you know that 40 years ago "those people" and "woman" wouldn't be hired as computer programmers in Philladelphia PA because, well, you know how they are...   

That forced one particular woman to move to Florida to start a software company.  

Sometimes the worse enemies of the "no government interference concept" are the assholes to force people to seekout the government for help. 

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:35 | 4595004 Future Jim
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Yes. I have no doubt that many cronies don't think of themselves as cronies - just as most fascists don't think of themselves as fascists.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:30 | 4594721 Chupacabra-322
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"Something is wrong with the people, who seem increasingly partisan, ignorant, apathetic, dishonest, evasive, cowardly, hypocritical, passive aggressive, insecure, conformist, closed minded, irrational, illogical, and unprincipled."

Immoral behavior, lack of compassion & apathy are indications of a Society or Empire in decline. Our is no different. The fall is eminent.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:04 | 4594956 Future Jim
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"Immoral behavior, lack of compassion & apathy are indications of a Society or Empire in decline."

First, have you considered that you may have that backwards? Maybe Immoral behavior, lack of compassion & apathy are not indications of a Society or Empire in decline, but are the cause of the decline.

Second, isn't this a global phenomenon?

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:15 | 4595003 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  Second, isn't this a global phenomenon?

How could it NOT be?   Would any society of "nice people" exist if it had a neighboring society of sociopaths?

People assume that sociopaths are few in number.   As others have pointed out, the guy in the mirror is most likely a sociopaths when he's got to be.   Humans rank themselves by how sociopathic they are: the "better" sociopaths eat the "less better" sociopaths.  

What other system could possibly exist?


Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:23 | 4595035 Future Jim
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Lot's of other systems could exist and succeed.

At the highest level, people have two conflicting genetically programmed tendencies that could either one be the basis of a successful system.

One is the Soul of Humanity, and the other is the Soul of Animals.

People tell themselves that no other system could exist in order to justify their own sociopathic choices.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:33 | 4595118 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  Lot's of other systems could exist and succeed.

Sorry, I meant "what other system could exist where there's lots of sociopaths".

Hell, socialism or communism could exist if it wasn't for the sociopaths manipulating the dumbasses.

The problem with any fantasy system is 1) getting from a "survival of the fittest sociopathic system" to a "nice system" and (worse) 2) dealing with the sociopaths ruining the "nice system" when you get to there.

The sociopaths ruin everything.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:47 | 4595189 Future Jim
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I agree with your point that almost any system could work if one starts wit ha population of ideal people, but even in the absence of sociopaths ruining everything, we learned 400 years ago that a free market system is compatible with human nature and communism is not.

People have a choice to fight sociopathic behavior with sociopathic behavior or to out the sociopaths as sociopaths, cronies, fascists, etc.

We have very little transparency and very little outing of anyone. for example, everyone is afraid to out Obama because he is black, which would thus invite the sociopaths among us to label us racist, but some of us have the courage to stand up to the sociopaths, and perhaps our example will encourage others to embrace the soul of their humanity and stand up with us.

In addition to outing the sociopaths, we can form physical defensive alliances with our wealth and our arms. No doubt some will even form zero squads. Note that such alliances are visciously attacked in their early stages, which also goes unreported, hence the need for more transparency.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:55 | 4595252 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  but even in the absence of sociopaths ruining everything, we learned 400 years ago that a free market system is compatible with human nature and communism is not

Well,  it's obvious NOT compatable as it failed.   It was ruined BY the sociopaths (otherwise, how did we get here.  And, sociopaths creating bullshit about "X being Y" is perfectly valid.   Sociopaths use bullshit to manipulate dumbasses.   Do you remember when Greenspan was a Libertarian who wanted huge banks so they could "compete" with the evil foreign big banks?    That was an example of "free market" bullshit, and is perfectly honest sociopathic bullshit).

Any system, like the ______ (fill in here) system, is ONLY compatable with human nature if the system itself isn't gamed BY the sociopaths.   If the sociopaths game the system - well, by definition, it's not a good system (unless you're one of the sociopaths winning).

Sooo,   you might have to rethink the "free market system" concept.   It only works with nice people.  

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 17:12 | 4595435 Future Jim
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Even in the absence of sociopaths, communism doesn't work; whereas, the free market can last, and honest labor can thrive, for as long as the people educate the next generation and remain vigilant against those who would reeducate them. Vigilance left us several generations ago, and is kind of returning and resurrecting the Soul of Humanity thanks to the Internet, but the multuigenerational conspiracy to reeducate us is also stronger than ever.

In the absence of such vigilance we now have fascists making frivolous accusations of fascism, sociopaths making frivolous accusations of sociopath, and racists making frivolous accusations of racism.

Of course, these frivolous accusations come from the so called left, which is not left at all. For example, how is it that the party that says it wants to empower the little guy is the party that wants to disarm the little guy? How is it that the pro-choice party is the one opposed to choice in education? How is it that the orthodontist from KY is the sociopath and the much more powerful crony of Chicago thugs is not?

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:46 | 4595200 Duke Dog
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Another vote.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:17 | 4594662 Smiley
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We allow 'adult 6-year-olds' to run the show now.  No matter what the facts they will just whine, complain, and throw temper tantrums until they get their way.  When confronted with facts they lash out with the "I HATE YOU'S."  Oh yeah, and when things go wrong; ITS ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT!

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:17 | 4594667 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  Unless we change the incentives and disincentives, the system is doomed

Perhaps the system is functioning perfectly.   

Survival of the fittest is a bitch when you happen to figure out you're just the food; but...  it's still the only system possible.  

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:37 | 4595139 Duke Dog
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"Who are You" - from a Clint film.

This is sincere, you may be trying to wake some folks up, but what is your agenda. I have a limited time to view ZH, but almost every article posted has your comments.

You, to me anyway, seem to have an agenda, what the fuck is it?

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:46 | 4595201 NOTaREALmerican
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Re;  You, to me anyway, seem to have an agenda, what the fuck is it?

I'm simply an instantiation of the first true human intelligent quantum computer system.   I am trying to learn about humans, and especially humans who dislike my government. 

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:19 | 4594675 Chupacabra-322
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The Criminal system/s today have a high mix of both Socio & Psychopaths. Perfectly describes the D.C. District of Criminals to a T.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:19 | 4594680 insanelysane
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Like when politicians call every idea they come up with "the common sense approach"???

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:20 | 4594685 evernewecon
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It's pyramidal and control'y.


Educate instead of incarcerate.

Let the engine fire on all cylinders.

Embrace democracy and cooperation.

Those are the anti-pyramidal elements

I humbly submit.


Economic absolutes such as 100% equal 

ease of entry/information access are fantasies.

Inappropriate monopoly is feudal (pyramidal.)


No one wants to fail, so devices like non-recourse

in mortgages still are desirable, especially when

the other party should have skin in the game.


As we know more about how things are best

cooperated on, even in an environment defined

by free enterprise, that, I also humbly submit,

works best within "market progressivism, process



Though ZH isn't immune to trolls, at least till

they're caught, many interesting

responses will follow.  Unfortunately I've had unexpected

demands on my time this morning and will have to 

live at sufferance to them, as just this time I'm splittin.




Wed, 03/26/2014 - 16:40 | 4595540 dizzyfingers
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"embrace democracy" -- THE TYRANY OF THE MAJORITY. 

No, we have a constitutional republic -

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:21 | 4594689 Jack Burton
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My answer, YES. Most especially in Government jobs and Police Jobs. I had some experiece in the Civil Service after my military service. I noted government supervisors were nearly all in the Scociopath range. They thrived in the well protect world of government service, and bullied, threatened, lied to, abused and mad life generally hell for all under them. A good reason to get out!

Police, I just watch my local cops and see who they hire and this being a small town I know them all. Most are dangerous bullies and really borderline nut jobs. This type of person seems to stock the new American military style bully police forces.

America is sick, and becoming an evil entity. We are letting it happen. Since 9/11 gave the green light, we are heading for a Stalinist Police state in service of Corporate and Banker entities.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:21 | 4594690 Miss Expectations
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Nonsense...sociopaths don't operate via a system of incentives and disincentives.  They operate entirely outside these kinds of parameters.  They operate without conscience or worse...hurting, stealing, taking, controlling really, really gets them off.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:34 | 4594770 besnook
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gaming the system successfully with little concern for anything other than our own narrow self interest gets us off

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:36 | 4594780 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  hurting, stealing, taking, controlling really, really gets them off.

Which is part of a "survival of the fittest, winner take all" system.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:27 | 4595080 Duke Dog
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Without meaning any insult, you are stupid for commenting.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:46 | 4595190 Miss Expectations
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Please explain how you deincentivize a sociopath.   I really want to know.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:55 | 4595251 Ms No
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You probably have a point with that.  Dahmer didn't seem to upset we got caught eating dead dudes.  I understand that this is an extreme case but most of these types cant seem to control themselves regardless of consequence.  I say detect them and watch.  I am not advocating for thought crime or government mass profiling of citizens but rather test the politicians and industry leaders that hold the fate of the population in there hands. 

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 16:45 | 4595563 dizzyfingers
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"Nonsense...sociopaths don't operate via a system of incentives and disincentives.  They operate entirely outside these kinds of parameters.  They operate without conscience or worse...hurting, stealing, taking, controlling really, really gets them off."

Yes, but sociopaths seek power. What's more powerful (to the ego) than getting elected to be in control...which is where sociopaths always want to be? What is the perceived power-and-control center of the US?

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:23 | 4594699 TimmyM
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Fonz said it best yesterday. The fiat ponzi fosters the psychopath system. Until we change the money, there is no solution.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:35 | 4594716 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  Until we change the money, there is no solution.

Unfortunately, the smartests-n-savviest of the sociopaths created a system that rewards them.

You'd expect this to happen because "survival-of-the-fittest" (natural selection) would lead the smartest-n-savviest to create - over time - exactly the system we've got now.     The top 10% are doing fantastic.   How would the less evolved losers (the trash) get the Elysium Class to change?

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 16:16 | 4595406 TPTB_r_TBTF
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Re: => Re:  Until we change the money,


I love the word "we".  Whenever it is used, i know the speaker/writer has no plans whatsoever to take any action

... rather, just to wait for someone else to do something.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 16:50 | 4595573 dizzyfingers
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"How would the less evolved losers (the trash) get the Elysium Class to change?"

Chop heads? Never a problem with double jeopardy.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:24 | 4594701 rlouis
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A Few Good Men, Col. Nathan Jessup:  "You can't handle the truth!"  Such an interesting line on so many levels, including the consideration of delusions he himself was under.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:44 | 4594816 ParkAveFlasher
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Any or all of Stanley Kubrick's films explores sociopathy, and imo also implies sociopathy as endemic to all humanity however only emergent or evident in the proper conditions or circumstances.  He also demonstrates that sociopathy can indeed be cultivated trait.  It can be programmed into otherwise inanimate objects (as HAL9000 ironically is shown to be).  It can be trained into soft, immature minds (Full Metal Jacket).  It can spontaneously be validated as GroupThink from the lowest to the highest societal echelons (Clockwork Orange and Dr. Strangelove).  It can be assumed by virtue of tradition (Paths of Glory, Barry Lyndon) or against the will of the curious, intellectual, and rational mind (Eyes Wide Shut and Lolita).  It can be absorbed from the immediate surroundings (The Shining).  It's an almost inescapable trait.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:10 | 4594971 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  It's an almost inescapable trait.

It works.  

I wish I was a smart-n-savvy sociopath (instead of just dumb-n-clueless one). 

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:56 | 4595265 ParkAveFlasher
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I don't think you would know it if you were.  There is something about the harm of others not entirely registering in the mind of a sociopath.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 16:39 | 4595533 withglee
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Teach your kids honesty and good character and you send them into the world defenseless.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:27 | 4594709 esum
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does obama spit or swallow..... we all know he sucks

fearless, confident, charismatic, ruthless and focused

and INCOMPETENT.... vaginas voted him in twice

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:31 | 4594732 Kirk2NCC1701
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Iceland doesn't... Iceland is also repudiating the fiat banksters...  AURORACOIN

p.s. Don't tell phone star... or you'll never hear the end of it.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 16:12 | 4595385 TPTB_r_TBTF
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"At the first day of the Airdrop, Auroracoin price fell almost 50%,..."


So ... where are these things accepted?

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 17:04 | 4595522 withglee
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Another pitiful example of failure to see that "money" is "a promise to complete a trade". Treat money as anything else and it's a scam.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:32 | 4594741 Itchy and Scratchy
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Roses are red,

Violets are blue,

I'm a schizophrenic.

And so am I.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 16:55 | 4594777 Emergency Ward
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"You've Changed" -- Billie Holiday

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 17:52 | 4595846 css1971
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That's multiple personality disorder. Schizophrenia is something else.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:33 | 4594751 Inthemix96
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C.H.S, nearly mate, you missed a few words that would complete that sentence.

In-bred, paedophilic, self-serving, dual citizen, couldnt give two fucks about anyone but themselves, greedy, grasping, thieving fucking cuntish behaviour, fuck the general public they are there to serve, child molesting, under qualified having never struck an honest days work in their entire lives, couldnt change a light bulb if their lives actually depended on it, full of their own importance, send other kids and their parents off to die for their self-fucking-serving wars for profit and self-enrichment, but never their own, cover up and hide and deceive fuck knows how many criminal acts they oversee, through their own bought and paid for judiciary, and rub the whole bastard lot in the face of the people they were put there to SERVE, being 'Public Servants'.

Other than that Charles, you hit the nail on the head.

Time to hang these cunts is long over due.


Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:43 | 4594807 Duke Dog
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I hope more articles such as this come out not only on ZH, but in every medium available. 20+ years ago I was married to a clinically diagnosed sociopath/psycopath (they are the same thing). The World has probably always been in their control as far as top government officials go. What we have now is virtually every part of the federal and state govt and top 2000 World corporations in the hands of these fucking demonlike people.

Psycopaths control much more of our lives than most could possibly imagine. It will never turn out well for anyone including them, however, they do not have the capacity to discern that fact.

I'm saying this tongue in check, but if we could identify them early, I would be a proponent of having them branded on the foreheard at birth.

In the meantime, keep your hand on your wallet and your glock.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:42 | 4594822 smacker
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Having encountered a few psychopaths on the Internet (mainly on unmoderated forums like Usenet) over the last 15-20 years, I did do some extensive research myself to better understand them and to learn how they operate. Kevin Dutton's analysis quoted in this article is absolutely spot on and matches my own findings perfectly.

We should not forget the man who virtually "discovered" psychopathy, wrote extensively about it and created a simple test Q&A to reveal such tendencies, was Prof Hare. As he said years ago "there's a bit of psychopathy in all of us" (even he scored about 6 on his own scale) . But it's only when a person achieves a score on his test of higher than (say) 10+ that we should be careful. Successful people in crime, politics and business often score above 20.


A BBC article: "Psychopathy and the Problem of Evil"

Prof Hare - tell-tale traits of a psychopath:
 -superficial charm
 -pathological lying
 -need for stimulation & prone to boredom
 -self-centered & self-important
 -cunning and manipulative
 -deceptive behavior & lying
 -blaming others for their actions (projection)
 -lack of remorse or guilt
 -shallow emotional responsiveness
 -callousness and lack of empathy
 -poor self-control
 -failure to accept responsibility for own actions

Anyone who cannot see these traits in most politicians is wilfully blind.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 14:48 | 4594869 NOTaREALmerican
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If you had to pick a behavior trait for success, being a sociopath would be your best choice.

There's not much point in bitching about sociopaths when almost everybody has voted for one, or worshipped the leadership of one. 

The nice people get screwed,  the dumbasses get eaten.   Humans compete with sociopathic behaviors. 

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:11 | 4594977 Duke Dog
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You don't have to be a sociopath to kill another human being, however, if you eat his/her liver, that may be taking it a touch too far.

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:00 | 4594932 Duke Dog
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Hare is one of the best. I've also done much research in the last ten years after our son was diagnosed in 2004 (marriage fell apart within 2 years), when he was 20 years old. What a fucking mess!

I don't know if it is genetic or nuture, but it godamned sure exists everywhere.

The main traits that I've found to look for after 22 years is 1)Lying, 2) zero remorse/guilt/empathy, 3)blaming anyone but themselves. These people will lie when the truth would serve them better regardless - it is a game for them.

Smacker - thanks commenting!

Wed, 03/26/2014 - 15:42 | 4595172 Herd Redirectio...
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I've heard there is a genetic component, and that its more likely to come from the mother's side.  This was part of the study done on 'Political Ponerology' by Andrew Lobaczewski.

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