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Russian Retaliation Continues? Government Dumps iPads, Switches To Samsung
A week after the White House appeared to shun Blackberry (and ignored Apple's iPhones) as the WSJ reported it was testing Android-based smartphone replacements from LG and Samsung, it seems the Russians have the same idea. Whether this is another swing of the sanctions "boomerang" is unclear but ITAR-TASS reports that, because South Korean tablets have better information security, the Russian government is switching from iPads to Samsung. Communications Minister Nikiforov added this "isn't related to politics." We are sure...
Via Bloomberg,
South Korean tablets have better information security; Russian govt’s switch from iPad isn’t related to politics, Itar-Tass cites Communications Minister Nikolay Nikiforov as saying.
Samsung was first to certify products with Russia’s Federal Security Service, or FSB, state news wire reports, citing Samsung press service
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Govt calling for greater scrutiny of foreign IT partners; no plans to ban or place sanctions on foreign high-tech products, state-run news service RIA Novosti says, citing Nikiforov
Nikiforov says comments by U.S. officials raise concerns of increased intelligence gathering, interception of digital information: RIA
Too bad Russia doesn't make smartphones for the US to retaliate against...
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DA!
FUCK APPLE COMRADES!
Now go get a haircut!
http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/1.582141
And WTF did I tell you mooks this morning!!??
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-26/its-another-non-virtual-futures...
Kim Jong Fucktard should also make them all wear those retarded hipster white sunglasses!
Samsung should Ed Snowden a commission check
Just wondering… Is it possible that, instead of having their own PRIZM (TM) to snoop on all GLOBAL communications, them pesky Rooskies just unobstructedly hack General Alex’ pooter? ;-)
Looney
Back in the 1990s and early 2000s, the US federal government put work into various open source operating system projects like Linux and some BSD code. Mandatory Access Control (MAC) was offered and since been integrated into Linux kernels since 2003ish is just one of them. Who knows how much the NSA introduced to the community by third party fronts.
No one but Apple knows if the NSA has a backdoor into OSX/iOS but we do know they have code inside most modern Linux kernels; they've managed to break elliptical encryption based on NIST standards widely used on the internet for just abuot everything. Lord only knows how they've introduced backdoors people will easily miss, especially the lazy "we want everything for free but make horrible interfaces because 'we r l33t'" FOSS community. It's beginning to make me look at my OpenBSD server in a different light now too. I guess it's my fault for "trusting" any computing device.
I can definitely understand why Russia wouldn't trust Apple products, given that it's an American for-profit company that could be cowered in the face of overt government bullying, but one shouldn't trust anything built on Linux or BSD either, especially Android, which has horrible security history and major flaws that Google can't/won't fix. Literally leaves no choice except to start from scratch and make your own...
A classic "pick your poison" moment.
You need to get just a bit more in the weeds with your post
The NSA managed to break encryption without introducting software into systems to monitor communications. They found a way to create a relationship inside the NIST standard in order to read people's email and communications. So, the NSA doesn't have to introduce backdoors into systems that could potentially be discovered by the FOSS community.
Going from iOS which is malware free and more secure to Android cannot be explained as an effort to enhance security, it's more about sending a message to the USA and Apple that they are taking Russian money elsewhere. Which is the absolute best message they could ever send, actually.
."Going from iOS which is malware free and more secure... " - riiiiiight
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/03/21/tor_group_claims_fake_browser_ha...
"it's more about sending a message to the USA and Apple that they are taking Russian money elsewhere. Which is the absolute best message they could ever send, actually." - agree
"...Going from iOS which is malware free..."
Are you an NSA troll, or do you simply not consider it malware because it's NSA-approved?
Crapple is nothing but what was once a good Linux distro with a huge layer closed source of big brother bloatware thrown on top.
American companies will suffer big time for their collusion with the Security State.
Meanwhile, look who is getting the red carpet in France...
http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2014/03/26/01003-20140326ARTFIG0029...
Da, Fuck ??????
Edit, that is wierd, I can cuss but I cannot use the russian writing of Apple?
Putin is way ahead of NSA
http://reason.com/blog/2013/07/16/how-not-to-get-hacked-according-to-russi
Apple, Microshaft, Gurgle, Facebook, Tweeter, Crisco, Orafice and the rest are all spy crap and shit technology for retards.
How you say "Fut you!" in Korean?
"Imagine the possibilities" - Samsung motto
<--- Natalia Poklonskaya Wanted* by ZHers also
<--- Natalia Poklonskaya Not wanted* by ZHers
* Ukraine's security service 'wants' the Crimean Chief Prosecutor, Natalia Poklonskaya
http://rt.com/news/prosecutor-poklonskaya-wanted-crimea-349/
I only want her for approximately 10 minutes
She can spank my weasel.
I will give her asylum, I have voted and unanimously seceded from my state and county.
"Information security"
Translation: Apple is in bed with the NSA, S. Korea is not.
South Korea? Maybe not but Android is. But worldwide communications are compromised anyway. The NSA has access to everything. This is a purely political move but no one will care. Russians still love Apple products, i have my cousins asking me to send them apple shit all the time because over there everyhthing is 4-5x as expensive.
Android is the most obnoxiously controlled OS I've ever encountered. My tablet barely runs anymore due to the fact that you have no control over which apps run.
If it wasn't for the fact it belongs to my employer, I would've rooted it long ago.
Totally agree. Android is maddening.
custom rom patched to run PDroid would help a little: allows you to control what apps have access to.
That's the best I could think of without giving up mobile phone usage altogether.
@EatYourCorn
Android is a fork off of the Linux kernal. If the FSB were trying to do things right, they'd use some of their homegrown scriptmonkeys to build their own fork. Problem solved.
Taiga Bear Code...ongoing project
South Korea is an owned and operated "subsidiary" of sorts...so while I agree "they're no Apple"...they are Android.
This is "no bullshit Putin" now and if you watched CNN "pre-crash" you have seen Spetnasz in person, no mask. A rare sighting indeed.
They're now gonna get the gang and "take it to the man" "Gangam Style."
I was part of that Mafia once...and that ain't no Band of Brothers.
The "op for" is the Mask of Command. I recommend the book as well.
"Apple is in bed with the NSA, S. Korea is not"
They're in bed with someone. 4579309
I love my Kaspersky anti virus suite
@Theta_Burn
Kaspersky is compromised. If you have to use anti-virus, you are using the wrong software.
Really?
For PC use, windows 7/XP
Been using it for yrs, countless saves logged..
There was 1 problem it took awhile to root out, this bitcoinminernode thing that Kaspersk could see but had to be manually deleted,... 3 times..
I've always been more of a hardware guy.
Would appreciate any extra input..
Get Virtualbox on your windose, install a linux distro (try Linux Mint) and try to use it for all your everyday stuff for a month. If you still can run the programs you need, get rid of windowse and put the linux on the hardware. M$ is dead end in operating systems.
dup...Latest Linux Mint
@Theta_Burn
If you are happy with it, then fine. But realize that any anitvirus program that you use is like handing of the keys to your car - they can drive it anywhere they want. I prefer to drive my own car and I also prefer monitor my own house rather than pay ADT to do it. The Russian v. American angle speaks well of Kaspersky, but you can believe that these OS backdoors are coded at the level that Kaspersky would not be able to detect. I just don't want anyone to get a false sense of security. Also, check this out:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/19/kaspersky_website_compromise/
I love Kaspersky on my Samsung Galaxy tablet.
I used Kaspersky about 4 years ago and quickly got a virus.
Although it may of been related to the letter I wrote Putin when he invaded Georgia (and 0 went golfing)
OT, sorry, but could not resist that Iceland is also repudiating the fiat banksters... AURORACOIN
http://rt.com/news/auroracoins-iceland-national-cryptocurrency-257/
p.s. Don't tell phone star... or you'll never hear the end of it.
It probably isn't related to politics. Security, on the other hand... Android is open source and you can use stuff like cyanogenmod to go back to a OS you can demonstrably inspect.
iOS... not so much.
It's still no accident the Kremlin is using mechanical typewriters...
The Waffen SS made the Russians pay "beyond all measure" for their lack of "Kim.com"
World War II didn't end..but it did stop.
And as America's only Six Star General (Pershing...the Missouri school teacher) wanted Berlin...and had he gotten it would have prevented World War II...so Patton wanted Moscow.
Both lost their Commands of course...one promoted, the other transferred. "The rest they say is History."
No singing or display of "Charm Offensive" gonna change that.
You wanna deal with a school yard bully? Get in his space and see if he hits you. No words need be spoken at all...that's the training at least.
Dude. You have been gone a while. Glad to see that you are back and as coherent as EVAR!!
Cheers mate.
LOL, you are disabled that. is. for. sure.
Except that Cyanogenmod don't have a policy of excluding manufacturer binary blobs so you can't inspect everything unless you can reverse engineer the blobs and besides, who's got time to audit the 12 million lines of code for Android itself except, maybe, the black budget hackers at the NSA.
Note 3 is a tool for business, S5 is a tool for business.
Any apple product is a toy for stupid immature girls who spend their time taking selfies of themselves, texting their idiot friends over nonsense, updating their FakePuke pages, twittering (try inserting it in your slash instead, you might get more pleasure from that than your metrosexual boyfriend)
Anyone who downarrows this comment is a girlieman who uses apple products because he ovulates.
Go Putin
My daughter has an $100 Ipod, she "facetimes" with her 11yo friends with just a wifi connection.
I'm no apple fan, but that tech. is pretty cool...
Defining yourself through a consumer product is really lame, in either direction.
Meant for NOZZLE.
I don't define myself by my Note 3 but it is a pretty bad-ass phablet.
I just got the Glaxy Maga, bad ass indeed.
You had me agreeing until your 'Go Putin'.
He is a communist and a ruthless one at that. I admire the fact that he does not hide it like all the whiney bitches in our US government but you would not want to live under that pricks thumb.
Switch from a product made in China to another product made in China. Good to know.
They'll switch back when Max-iPads roll out.
Security leaks b-gone!
Shit, I wouldn't trust Samsung either. They are working hand in hand with the USA - check out their "smart" refregerators that couple up with the "smart" meters, and "smart" homes. The fucking refrigerators read the bar codes on the shit stored to keep "inventory" and displays it on a touch screen on the front door panels. The whole thing is pretty fucked up.
Their new Television is right out of Minority Report..........
The techno expression of the very powerful Korean drive to communality.
People have become so lazy that they can't even use their eyes to look in their fridge?!
Get a gas refrigerator.
They last forever and are not plugged into the electrical grid which is a neural spy network by itself.
As long as you've got the gas grid.
True but there is no technology at this time which can use your gas line to connect to the NSA or Gazprom
Rut Roh. Time to bring back the 'safety' nets at Foxconn.
Google must be proud. Android - the most accessible backdoor for govt. spooks everywhere.
Sorry for the off topic post here, but I figured someone will know the answer and it's something people here are probably interested in.
What is the specific science called which allows software to read or write text? Say, a robot writing an article? Or softward that understands the context of a written message that may not have associated keywords?
I assume this is some subset of the linguistics field? I just don't know the key terms to google to learn more.
Thanks
http://narrativescience.com/company/our-story/
Thanks. So I am seeing terms like artificial intelligence and narrative science. Are there any other terms you might be aware of to research?
Optical Character Recognition (OCR) maybe??
Neural nets??
ZH automated commentards
Maybe check out OCR or AI in general. Sorry I can't be more specific.
You're correct, it's a subset of linguistics. You're looking for "Natural Language Processing", usually in the same context as artificial intelligence (AI).
It begun as OCR - optical character recognition - as docs were scanned. Once that bridge was crossed, the next step was the reading of those characters, is a simple crossing over from digitizing/vocalizing a character, but it remains a dumb science, until you get mathematics/algos involved so to make some sense of the characters. Vocalizing is just a simple "display" format rather than interpretation which is a whole nother ball game, and at this point you'd be dealing in mathematics and at some point AI - artificial Intelligence but that would come in more as a "back-end"/analytical aspect of the optical/vocal output.
So at this point you'd still be playing in the mathematics/cyber-science sandbox with AI lurking in the background. Robotics would be an evolutionary step from there, since it/robotics would just "mechanize" the written/verbal output.
It seems that once science got to a certain point, complexity breeds simplicity. Anyways .....I hope it makes some sense.
they can control our drones better with the samsung product obviously
It will be good to get some competition in the "network security review" arena.
I doubt anybody - outside the NSA - likes having so few software & hardware choices.
The NSA doesn't much care what platform you use. They own the center of this chessboard. They sit on the undersea cables and inside the telco data centers and siphon up everything that comes across. Then they just store it all for later.
No reporting to NSA, thanks to Snowden's trove of data, Russians are thinking smart.
Actually, most large countries are making changes which will eventually hurt the US.
Brazil passed a diluted law to protect collection of data overseas today. http://rt.com/news/brazil-internet-bill-neutrality-317/
While India has banned all Govt employees from using non official email ID's. http://www.bgr.in/news/gvernment-employees-will-now-use-only-official-e-...
China sales of all American IT companies have plunged. Now Apple is in the crosshairs of the Russians.
#deglobalization at its best and fastest.
de-americanization?
Since most Americans don't work for either..it wont hurt
Yes! Only the cellulite in the American economy is targeted.
It may not hurt Americans directy as in employment. But the profits to an American corporation will reduce, the size of several American corporations will reduce, the market cap and dividends will reduce, the shareholders will receive less and the overall reach of the empire will reduce. All because US empire has shrunk over the last decade and continues to slow down at a much faster rate, globally.
The number of American corporations in the Top 500 global corporations has been shrinking rapidly over the last decade too but Snowden revealations have acceletrated the slowdown of the IT companies where America indeed had a hegemony. Wechat gives competition to What's app and Alibaba to yahoo and Samsung to Apple and Tencent to Twitter. These are not good signs for the innovativeness of the Silicon valley.
Good who the fuck are we to police the world. The problem is when this deglobalization happens the cock suckers in charge will turn on us instead. You are already seeing them gear up with the militerzation of our local Law enforcements.
But I fret none, the Local police forces are easy to control using many tactics, as most of them are sheep anyway. One phone call of " A GUN " in such and such an area and half the force shows up in one place lol...easy pickens when the time comes.
As noted just one tactic :)
Question for the ZH roundtable:
Currently using an HTC One (Android OS) for my cell, but am eligible for a new phone in 8 months. What would you recommend I use, instead?
I figured it was safe to assume EVERYTHING is compromised, now, and that no secure options remain to us.
Throw the phone in the ocean... save the money for PMs
Use whatever you want, doesn't matter one jot. Just don't conduct any important business that way. And be aware that they will know your physical location to within a couple of yards most of the time so if you ever think you might be the target of a drone strike make sure you toss your phone into the back of any passing pickup truck with Nevada plates.
If they know where you are within a couple yards, why, when I turn off GPS, do apps show me to be a couple miles away?
Server-side cell tower triangulation doesn't rely on GPS signals, just the cellular voice/sms network connection, and cannot be performed (anywhere near as accurately) on the client (phone) side.
You miss the point. He wrote:
And be aware that they will know your physical location to within a couple of yards most of the time
Most of the time "my" GPS is not turned on. Thus, most of the time they know my location within a couple miles ... not a couple yards.
You apparently missed the developments in technology, moreover the tools available to the State are more sophisticated than those available to public app developers.
You seem to have missed your own point. That not withstanding, enlighten me.
Re: What would you recommend I use, instead?
Is this a trick question?
You use the one that shows ESPN and porn the best.
@Lin S
Smartphones are rapidly becoming low-cost commodities and this is the future:
http://www.zdnet.com/mozilla-shows-off-25-firefox-os-smartphone-prototype-7000026644/
Also, what Cougar just said.
I practice pretty extreme infomation security (part of my work.)
I tossed my only smartphone out a while ago -- it was one of the Motorola Droid phones that you could prove was compromised just by monitoring the network traffic -- and went back to a dumb phone. Both before and after the android I've used dumb phones as modems, and then use an encrypted VPN link to a server to bounce into the internet using a notebook with a really restrictive firewall. At the moment my CDMA phone is a Samsung Intenisty IIi and my GSM backup is the somewhat ancient built like a brick Samsung GT-B2710. Today I'd probably look at the Samsung Xcover E2370 or something similar. None of these are "sexy" phones, just rugged and reliable with modem support.
With this set up, the only thing they can monitor via the phone (aside from the usual phone stuff when it's on, e.g. location) is that I'm connecting to the same server over and over. Having control over the phone doesn't help them any, because the data is encrypted external to the phone, and if you use the right VPN approach (like SSH) they can't man-in-the-middle attack the connection.
I leave the phone off or "forget" it at home when I don't have to have internet connectivity. It should go without saying that any calls and voice communications via any phone are compromised, as is its location if the phone has its battery.
If you need secure voice, do VOIP over the VPN to a secured server.
Bobby, Shining Cities & Ricky
What you are looking at is a whole lot of single people, most in civil marriage to the end of RE inflation, fed with income from make-work jobs, playing make-believe parents, false authority, as cops, teachers, social workers, and on and on. There is no shortage of blame to go around, ad infinitum with technology leverage, all searching for a financial equation to justify their behavior. Doesn’t Kissinger just take the cake, ‘working’ for America, betting against it in China, supporting a new currency in Russia?
China is not the future. Look at how many billions of live have been wasted there, only to feed a Global City that cannot be sustained, replicating its policies like a virus, consuming commodities with dead inventory to the end of RE inflation and human deflation. If you take a moment to reflect on actuarial reality, the only way to reach a sustainable equilibrium on earth, to avoid booms, busts and wars, is to expand into space, and there is plenty of universe to explore.
Unfortunately, when Bobby was assassinated, America died, and was replaced by yet another petty moron empire, of people talking about people, cutting each other’s throats with words, all hoping to form the next national majority to exploit the world’s minorities. Like it or not, under the empire assumption of a closed, win-lose, game system assumption, those capable of rearing children is always the minority.
The majority, singles, always find themselves in a catch-22. The future depends upon children, but they are incapable of rearing them. In the long run, single people are dependent upon married people, but must replace them with government in the short run, to commandeer their equal rights. That’s Family Law, a catch-22 of catch-22s, from which the majority exempts itself, because it is ‘normal.” Socialism, communism or capitalism makes no difference; it always ends in tyranny and war, when make-believe accounting meets actuarial reality.
Once again, we have reached the point where the promise ponzi of manifest destiny religionism is collapsing, and the national majorities promoting them can only turn on each other. If you are young, we have done you the courtesy of placing the system on a course of self-destruction. You might want to get out of the way, and get on with your life.
Unless you were around and sentient when Bobby was shot, for saying that America was great before it became a great military power, because of the diversity of its ideas, there is no meaningful way to explain how far America has fallen, back into the tired old divide and conquer paradigm of arbitrary differences, exasperated by the moron politicians elected accordingly. Diversity is not about the color of your skin, despite the vernacular of public, private and non-profit corporations imprisoned by the groupthink.
The young techies in San Francisco are not responsible for the illicit relationship between legacy real estate and government, but they know that their apps are being employed by that relationship to roll out Homeland Security. And they know that their resulting six figure salaries and seven figure hole-in-the-wall houses are suffocating real communities for hundreds of miles around their Global City, all infected them with RE inflation, imprisoned by minimum wage tourism, and occupied by public works.
Collect all the gold you like, begin public education at birth with ‘birthing’ nurses, and occupy any media you want. The outcome is always the same. Jerry Brown and the rest of the critters occupying the Lost Coast can ‘think’ what they like, but their technology is attacking itself, faster and faster, in a virtual world, with no memory. Ricky was something else, all together.
If a job requires certification from a peer pressure authority instead of merit, it’s not work; it’s extortion.
I think you have not factored in Bullshit.
Bullshit is a key component of both duplicity and self-delusion, and both are the key to happiness.
The human brain is designed to create bullshit, transmit bullshit, receive bullshit, and believe bullshit. And, best of all, bullshit compounds (at roughly the rate of inflation).
"the only way to reach a sustainable equilibrium on earth, to avoid booms, busts and wars, is to expand into space, and there is plenty of universe to explore."
Productivity per person has to increase multiple fold. Presently most people are not worth the O2 they breathe.
No more "SPi-Pads" for the Russian .gov should save them some money on aquisition and NSA debugging costs.
Sounds like a win-win all around to me...
Samsung tablets that run on the Android OS which though opensource is developed by Google.
I hope they got their own tech team to tweak that code for security purposes.
I detest Apple, but come on - Android (Google) is more secure? Just because it has a Linux kernel? Doesn't iOS have a similar BSD kernel?
I suspect it would only be more secure because it's open-source.
However, the phrase "because it's" is an implied action that assumes billions of man-hours, dollars, and knowledge in moving from "open-source" -> more secure.
However, if we apply the 1st rule of bullshit, we can easily become more secure:
open-source + bullshit = more secure -> consulting fees -> optimism particles.
Actually yes it is if you want to compile and tweak it yourself. The real problem tablet/phone iteration of bios viruses being snuck onto phones that become a problem. The problem is with these anti-virus moble apps and such there really is no definative database of clean apps and signatures to be effective at this point. Local firewall security policies are probably your best bet for tablets at this point and apps that work like firewalls in general for access to turning on and off functionality on the phone like the wifi transmitter and work like a router does that doesn't respond to silent sms for example which is like pinging a phone without you knowing it.
1/2 the price of an iPad, if not 1/3rd.
Praise Russia. They are doing everything I would have done to rid the United States of America of Globalists..
Now for the US military to move in, arrest the Justice Department and U.S. Treasury and begin the arrest posecution and convictions of the treasonous Senators.
Movin movin movin.
Keep them globalists moving.
Re; US military
Why would Big-MIC want to end the "Keynesian" gravy train? The officers do what Big-MIC wants as that's where their future jobs are.
General Alexander and his gang for NewGov? Now that's a fucking laugh (as if the fucking military assholes were not some of the biggest globalists of all).
Well, Bob, as one Bob to another, I think this is what we all should have learned over the past several months.
Want secure tech? Better code the whole thing yourself, and never hook it up to a public network.
All this means is now they have devices and they don't know who is monitoring them.
Well at least the serfs will have something to eat when they make the switch.
What?...Blackbarry shunning Blackberry?...RACIST!!!!!
Apple business model controls the hardware, operating system, and to a large extent the applications used in the Apple ecosystem. Disadvantage it makes a closed system more expensive for the funtionality, advantage is the overall design is tight and user friendly, hence its strong attraction to the groupie types. With Jobs gone there is no rock star to wow them so Apple will eventually fade away, and being a bona fide government whore doesn't help their case. Before Google prostituted themself out to TPTB they were a great company. Samsung would be nowhere without Android the same way Dell needed Micrsoft. Andriod and Samsung are independent and Google lets anyone write apps for their operating system, its a much more open ecosystem than Apple with more scope at less cost. So independent app developers have a better chance of circumventing Googles whorishness than with Apple (eg. Startpage search engine) and benefit from wider application scope and cheaper price. In any event the open source guys are doing a decent job of catching up with functionality and user friendliness and security is more independently assessed. So if you are going plug and play the Google based platform is the best bad choice right now until open source solutions becomr more
double
sounds good - a bug free money transaction system - sounds beautiful!!!!
...and then they can uninstall all their Microsoft and replace is with Kremlinware.
AAPL is shit - locked down to buy only through their shit-store. Fuck the ipad.
Android is the way to go. Open to connecting to what you want.
When does the Pussy Riot start? :)
Don't think for a minute that the rest of the world would not dump iPads, iPhones, Android (Google), Intel, Cisco, etc -- if there was an alternative that the NSA could NOT hack. All we are doing by spying on the rest of the planet is hastening the day when American technology is put out to pasture by a new global secure network and operating system.
And everyone will be on that network except for the good old USA
Is Steve Jobs rolling in his grave yet or did the NSA pay him off well enuff to rest in peace for eternity?
Now it is only a matter of time and who, Russia or China, before a big switch to Linux from Micro$py.
"Silicon Valley certified to have NSA inside."
"Dear listening intelligence services,
GUILLOTINE
Now that I have your attention, will you order me a pizza with pineapple and anchovies form Dominos please?
Thanks, and cold regards,
An American citizen not DC US subject"
"Too bad Russia doesn't make smartphones for the US to retaliate against..."
Too bad the US doesn't make any smartphones either!
Say what you want about RIM... Blackberries worked.
The comrades don't know that Google gets to track them with the Android OS?