Here Is The YouTube "Start A False Flag War With Syria" Leaked Recording That Erdogan Wanted Banned

Tyler Durden's picture

UPDATE: *TURKEY'S DAVUTOGLU SAYS LEAK IS 'DECLARATION OF WAR': TURKIYE

As we noted here, Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan had blocked Twitter access to his nation ahead of what was rumored to be a "spectacular" leak before this weekend's elections. Then this morning, amid a mad scramble, he reportedly (despite the nation's court ruling the bans illegal) blocked YouTube access. However, by the magic of the interwebs, we have the 'leaked' clip and it is clear why he wanted it blocked/banned. As the rough translation explains, it purports to be a conversation between key Turkish military and political leaders discussing what appears to be a false flag attack to launch war with Syria.

 

 

Among the most damning sections:

Ahmet Davutolu: “Prime Minister said that in current conjuncture, this attack (on Suleiman Shah Tomb) must be seen as an opportunity for us.”

 

Hakan Fidan: “I’ll send 4 men from Syria, if that’s what it takes. I’ll make up a cause of war by ordering a missile attack on Turkey; we can also prepare an attack on Suleiman Shah Tomb if necessary.”

 

Feridun Sinirliolu: “Our national security has become a common, cheap domestic policy outfit.”

 

Ya?ar Güler: “It’s a direct cause of war. I mean, what’re going to do is a direct cause of war.”

 

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Feridun Sinirolu: There are some serious shifts in global and regional geopolitics. It now can spread to other places. You said it yourself today, and others agreed… We’re headed to a different game now. We should be able to see those. That ISIL and all that jazz, all those organizations are extremely open to manipulation. Having a region made up of organizations of similar nature will constitute a vital security risk for us. And when we first went into Northern Iraq, there was always the risk of PKK blowing up the place. If we thoroughly consider the risks and substantiate… As the general just said…

 

Yaar Güler: Sir, when you were inside a moment ago, we were discussing just that. Openly. I mean, armed forces are a “tool” necessary for you in every turn.

 

Ahmet Davutolu: Of course. I always tell the Prime Minister, in your absence, the same thing in academic jargon, you can’t stay in those lands without hard power. Without hard power, there can be no soft power.

A full translation can be found here

And just in case you had faith that this was all made up and Erdogan is right to ban it... he just admitted it was true!

To summarize: a recording confirming a NATO-member country planned a false-flag war with Syria (where have we seen that before?) and all the Prime Minister has to say is the leak was "immoral."

 

Erdogan is not amused:

Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan described the leaking on YouTube on Thursday of a recording of top security officials discussing possible military operations in Syria as "villainous" and the government blocked access to the video-sharing site.

 

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"They even leaked a national security meeting. This is villainous, this is dishonesty...Who are you serving by doing audio surveillance of such an important meeting?" Erdogan declared before supporters at a rally ahead of March 30 local polls that will be a key test of his support amid a corruption scandal.

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RacerX's picture

and where is Ketchup Boy in all this?

SWRichmond's picture

the internet must be "regulated"; only then can we prevent the unwashed masses from having information like this.

BaBaBouy's picture

MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$'s

TahoeBilly2012's picture

Ever dawn on anyone the WW3 might just be people shooting and nuking and no one even know who is shooting at who?

chumbawamba's picture

The banality of genocide.

I am Chumbawamba.

Buckaroo Banzai's picture

"To summarize: a recording confirming a NATO-member country planned a false-flag war with Syria (where have we seen that before?) and all the Prime Minister has to say is the leak was "immoral."

From Robert Hare’s Checklist of Psychopathy Symptoms:

2. GRANDIOSE SELF-WORTH — a grossly inflated view of one’s abilities and self-worth, self-assured, opinionated, cocky, a braggart. Psychopaths are arrogant people who believe they are superior human beings.

4. PATHOLOGICAL LYING — can be moderate or high; in moderate form, they will be shrewd, crafty, cunning, sly, and clever; in extreme form, they will be deceptive, deceitful, underhanded, unscrupulous, manipulative and dishonest.

5. CONNING AND MANIPULATIVENESS: the use of deceit and deception to cheat, con, or defraud others for personal gain; distinguished from Item #4 in the degree to which exploitation and callous ruthlessness is present, as reflected in a lack of concern for the feelings and suffering of one’s victims.

6. LACK OF REMORSE OR GUILT:  a lack of feelings or concern for the losses, pain, and suffering of victims; a tendency to be unconcerned, dispassionate, coldhearted and unempathic. This item is usually demonstrated by a disdain for one’s victims.

10. POOR BEHAVIORAL CONTROLS:  expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper; acting hastily.

14. IMPULSIVITY: the occurrence of behaviors that are unpremeditated and lack reflection or planning; inability to resist temptation, frustrations and momentary urges; a lack of deliberation without considering the consequences; foolhardy, rash, unpredictable, erratic and reckless.

and most relevant:

16. FAILURE TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR OWN ACTIONS: a failure to accept responsibility for one’s actions reflected in low conscientiousness, an absence of dutifulness, antagonistic manipulation, denial of responsibility, and an effort to manipulate others through this denial.

redpill's picture

Machiavellianism in the information age just isn't as easy as it used to be!  Poor psychotic fucking madmen oligarchs!

Oh regional Indian's picture

Hard to believe that these guys released a power like the interwebs without understandng it's democracy of information potential.

3Com founder Robert Metcalf, "The power/value of a network is the square of the number of nodes in the network"

Pretty basic shit as far as understanding networks goes.

So, what IS the left hand doing? 

ori

 

A little TEDx action from me, in case you missed it yesterday, and thanks all around for the great support/kind words/engagement yesterday...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XijsnujcFg

john39's picture

insightful piece by Jon Rappaport on Syria and the big picture:

http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=29527

James_Cole's picture

zh has declared war on Turkey!

knukles's picture

What's the left hand doing?
All hands are busy in the Big Circle Jerk

Paveway IV's picture

This explains ALAFCO's old Malaysian Airlines 777-200ER that was supposedly sold to GA Telesis last November for parting out. Only the 777 never made it to Telesis' Florida dismantling shop. Telesis already parted out one othe Malaysian Air 777 last August. It was two serial numbers away from this one, and two serial numbers away from the Flight MH370 777. 

Last known location was Tel Aviv airport, an unusual location for a Kuwaiti company to store any aircraft.

ALAFCO also leases aircraft to Turkey and Ukraine.

Afraid they've gone well beyond a single dimension circle, Knuknes. It's some sort of a geodesic dome mobius that requires many hands. 

 

Ahmeexnal's picture

Er-dog-anus should be thrown to the mob for a good lynchin.

Just sayin.

Againstthelie's picture

The deafening silence of Turkey's allies is a strong indication that NATO is behind it. If it would be against NATO's intentions and they would be surprised about it, you bet that the peace nobel laureate would already telepromt and Germany's chancellor Kamierczak and Hollande would already demand consequences for Turkey and the exclusion from the NATO.

BKbroiler's picture

YouTube is just another policy arm of .gov    Doubt you'd ever see O get hung out to dry like this.  What did we learn in Afghanistan?  Hearts and minds... 

Anusocracy's picture

Government creates the need for its own existence.

Which is why government can never be acceptable.

Beam Me Up Scotty's picture

What I don't understand is why so many people think government is so important.  Its like the are all a bunch of inbreeds incapable of reasoning.  Everything .gov touches turns to shit, yet these idiot sheep BAAA for ever more of it.  Other than roads and bridges, and plowing the snow, I see little use for government.  Libraries are for sissies.

Anusocracy's picture

Well, where I live the roads are shit, the bridges need repair, and the city is considering an ordinance that closes some streets after a certain level of snowfall. Good luck getting to work if your street is chosen.

I repeat, government is not needed.

Againstthelie's picture

But you still can go out on the street at night. And women can go out, too.

That your car can be found where you left it, is also a result of a government.

And if someone attacks you, you can call 911, also a result of an existing government.

That you can write here and read, since you are not part of the 1%, is also a result of an evil government.

 

You libertarians sit in your warm rooms in front of a computer, the refrigerator filled and you write how beautiful it would be without a government? You are like these Bolsheviks who talk about proletarians and politics, while they are drinking and smoking in their saloons.

Or like these people that believe how wonderful and romantic life 200 years ago was - while they sit in a lit room, take a quick warm shower, go to the refrigerator fetch something to eat and continue with their intelligent conversations!

 

If you want a glimpse how things are, if the executive order collapses, which only exists because of a government, switch of electricity for three days.

And this does NOT mean, that any current government in the western regime was a good government! But they are thousands of times better, than the jungle's anarchy.

VictoryOrDeath's picture

"You libertarians"?  Why reference Libertarians when you are talking about anarchists?  Libertarians don't want to be without a government but want limited government in place of more individual freedom.  You even referenced 'anarchy' in your final statement but for whatever reason tried to associate Libertarians to this.  And by the way, I would ANY DAY OF THE WEEK, give up my 'luxurious accomodations' and conveniences of today in order to be without tyranny.  And if you wouldn't then you are part of the problem.

Seer's picture

"Libertarians don't want to be without a government but want limited government in place of more individual freedom. "

And that's why anarchists are anarchists.  Because they know that in all of human history governments have ALWAYS ended up growing and increasing their oppressive nature.

The whole idea that there can be a small/limited government is absurd, it flies in the face of human history.  It's like saying that someone can only be a little pregnant.

I DO like many components of the "libertarian" mindset/credo, but, as with all ideological bents, it's got its blindspots.

As long as you prmote growth you are running a sure-fire PONZI which WILL end.

Governments exist through excesses.  The world is running out of excess.  Oh, and governments are operated by sociopaths, which is clearly demonstrated by this article.

Slave's picture

What the fuck are you doing on this website? Trolling?

DFCtomm's picture

Why is it the fault of libertarians, and not the people who lusted for power and grew government and entitlements to unsustainable levels. People like you had to have more, and more until it couldn't be sustained, so now we'll all pay the price. This isn't the fault of libertarians who have almost no political power until recently, it's your fault.

UselessEater's picture

aside from the other replying posts which I enjoyed reading.

My pondering comment… remote rural communities were/are in most nations self-reliant. An accident has always resulted in neighbours jumping in to help with skills passed down and learned from each other or from active training through an informal network. When help wasn't needed you're generally left alone to make your own life through your own labours - may not be perfect but for many people its a happier life being left to be responsible for oneself and able to help if needed.

For those who look for govt to do this'n’that for them, there often seems to be much bitching about how much the govt should be doing in between satisfying their monotony with shopping and mass media and the search for something else to be responsible for making things as 'wonderful' as they 'should be'.

But ‘wonderful’ is a hollywood story. A good life always required work and effort and dealing with hardship with as much humour and good faith as you can muster to ride the bad bits (which can be a mix of bad times and pure monotony).

I wonder sometimes if we are go through the teenage years of conflicted parental-authority and independence only to then choose governmental authority and dependence as we move into the "real" world of jobs, bills, taxes and the monotony that it can bring us? Are we avoiding the reality of life by obsessing about what govt must do instead of what "I" can and should do?

No town has ever been perfect but once industry is offshored, jobs go, the drugs are brought in (with some heavy backing) then imperfect turns to worse and more govt is sought to fix what they fucked in the first place…are we being played?

just pondering....

Anusocracy's picture

Well, silly fool, prove to me that the market would be less able to create a better society than the really shitty job government does. That is your claim, right?

In the 20th century, numerous governments totally failed to provide what the people wanted and there is no indication in the 21st century that it can do any better.

Government is a negative sum game and exists only as a detriment to society. It always has, look at history - 400 million deaths by government in the 20th century.

BTW, your stupid examples show that you believe the market incapable of providing goods and services when it the government that fails over and over. Here, the public electric power provider completely blew it out its ass after an ice storm and the power was out for up to two weeks while we had sub-zero temperatures. A nearby private power company with a larger customer base restored the power in five days. The first day they were bringing in crews from out of state while .gov power did nothing.

I will say honestly, you don't know shit.

Lost Word's picture

What Jon Rappaport named the Umbrella,

or One World Government,

others have named the Octopus.

Perhaps the giant Sea Monster named in the Hebrew Bible?

Was it the Leviathan?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan

Terminus C's picture

Hmm, Hobbes named his book Leviathan...

 

Rusty Shorts's picture

Weird, I thought Leviathan was a gigantic oil deposit just off the coast of Israel.......

The_Prisoner's picture

You mean coast of Lebanon and Palestine

BlindMonkey's picture

That is the tar golum to you my friend.

Seer's picture

Fiction.  One World Government will NOT happen.  I've been arguing this for years.  And, just look around, the OPPOSIDE is occurring: fragmentation.

StychoKiller's picture

Umm, please?  Thanks in advance...

topshelfstuff's picture

next on deck =

 

Israel Caught Housing 'Identical Twin of Flight 370' In Tel Aviv!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZhSmYAvugU

Theta_Burn's picture

Interesting acustic work..

I've always loved that Indian cultural voicing on guitars.

I just picked up an acustic, and a insatiable desire to learn it.

Strange at my age..

Oh regional Indian's picture

Thanks Theta. Interestingly, going semi-acoustic opened a lot of doors, from an acoustic/musical perspective. I used to be resolutely anti-tech till I heard th epossibilities.

Cacete de Ouro's picture

Thanks Ori, I'll look at the talk later, from
the start, when I get time.

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

Start the talk at 10 minutes in, then when you are finished, watch from the start.  IMO, if you just have 2 minutes (and speakers)

vulcanraven's picture

Hey ORI, really enjoyed your TEDx video. Just curious, do you practice Escrima?

Oh regional Indian's picture

Thanks VulcanRaven. And no I do not and just saw it, very cool.

There are a huge number of traditional stick fighting forms in India doo. Do you practise Escrima?

SilverRhino's picture

Somewhere a bunch of oligarchs are going "How did we let this one get out???" 

 

tip e. canoe's picture

power/value of a network = number of nodes 2
pandora's quite a box, ain't she?

left hand doing?  twirlin' one of those sweet soundin' whistlin' sticks?

Oh regional Indian's picture

Ahaaah....nice connect Tip.e... Pandor's box, the power of squaring....no going back...

ori

Nehweh Gahnin's picture

Hey ORI.  Great talk!  I shared it with my partner, and it's now making the rounds among my folks around here.  I, myself, have been in the process of unperforming for the past decade now.  It has been a wonderful journey.

I always enjoy your gems of wisdom here on ZH, as well.