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Here Is The YouTube "Start A False Flag War With Syria" Leaked Recording That Erdogan Wanted Banned

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UPDATE: *TURKEY'S DAVUTOGLU SAYS LEAK IS 'DECLARATION OF WAR': TURKIYE

As we noted here, Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan had blocked Twitter access to his nation ahead of what was rumored to be a "spectacular" leak before this weekend's elections. Then this morning, amid a mad scramble, he reportedly (despite the nation's court ruling the bans illegal) blocked YouTube access. However, by the magic of the interwebs, we have the 'leaked' clip and it is clear why he wanted it blocked/banned. As the rough translation explains, it purports to be a conversation between key Turkish military and political leaders discussing what appears to be a false flag attack to launch war with Syria.

 

 

Among the most damning sections:

Ahmet Davutolu: “Prime Minister said that in current conjuncture, this attack (on Suleiman Shah Tomb) must be seen as an opportunity for us.”

 

Hakan Fidan: “I’ll send 4 men from Syria, if that’s what it takes. I’ll make up a cause of war by ordering a missile attack on Turkey; we can also prepare an attack on Suleiman Shah Tomb if necessary.”

 

Feridun Sinirliolu: “Our national security has become a common, cheap domestic policy outfit.”

 

Ya?ar Güler: “It’s a direct cause of war. I mean, what’re going to do is a direct cause of war.”

 

...

 

Feridun Sinirolu: There are some serious shifts in global and regional geopolitics. It now can spread to other places. You said it yourself today, and others agreed… We’re headed to a different game now. We should be able to see those. That ISIL and all that jazz, all those organizations are extremely open to manipulation. Having a region made up of organizations of similar nature will constitute a vital security risk for us. And when we first went into Northern Iraq, there was always the risk of PKK blowing up the place. If we thoroughly consider the risks and substantiate… As the general just said…

 

Yaar Güler: Sir, when you were inside a moment ago, we were discussing just that. Openly. I mean, armed forces are a “tool” necessary for you in every turn.

 

Ahmet Davutolu: Of course. I always tell the Prime Minister, in your absence, the same thing in academic jargon, you can’t stay in those lands without hard power. Without hard power, there can be no soft power.

A full translation can be found here

And just in case you had faith that this was all made up and Erdogan is right to ban it... he just admitted it was true!

To summarize: a recording confirming a NATO-member country planned a false-flag war with Syria (where have we seen that before?) and all the Prime Minister has to say is the leak was "immoral."

 

Erdogan is not amused:

Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan described the leaking on YouTube on Thursday of a recording of top security officials discussing possible military operations in Syria as "villainous" and the government blocked access to the video-sharing site.

 

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"They even leaked a national security meeting. This is villainous, this is dishonesty...Who are you serving by doing audio surveillance of such an important meeting?" Erdogan declared before supporters at a rally ahead of March 30 local polls that will be a key test of his support amid a corruption scandal.

 

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Thu, 03/27/2014 - 18:21 | 4600508 Lost Word
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Or maybe NATO just wants the whole idea of false flags to be ignored.

Too many old skeletons in the closet.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 23:13 | 4601441 UselessEater
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or maybe it suits their agenda?

As if the USA and USD needs to be demonised anymore....perhaps some serious deep dark PR at work, or just leaks that happen to pass in a heavily surveilled world?

I'm too confused to trust even 'good' leaks, I see a potential agenda behind everything and that may be the desired response.

Whatever, War Is A Racket and we know there is a difference between the people and the governments of every nation.

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 01:28 | 4601633 Seer
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"It's obviously a NATO plot."

With all of Russia's interests to consider I'm thinking that the NATO plot isn't as sure a thing as you might think.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 11:46 | 4598769 fonzannoon
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"and all that jazz"

one phrase i never expected to see in a turkish youtibe false flag attack article.

 

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 11:54 | 4598822 Dr. Engali
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Who says Turkey isn't up with the times? Heeeeeyyyyy cooolll man.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 12:03 | 4598882 Ignatius
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Turkey has been surfin' that wave for awhile now:

http://www.corbettreport.com/sibel-edmonds-on-gladio-b-part-1-video/

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 12:02 | 4598865 LaoTzu60606
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ah, a bit of history....

 

the founders of Atlantic Records, prime jazz label in the 50s and 60s (Ray Charles, Coltrane, et al) were the sons of the Turkish ambassador to the US, Ahmet and Neshui Ertegun...music biz legends, so they know their jazz...

lt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmet_Ertegun 

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 12:07 | 4598893 thamnosma
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Absolutely true.  Good one.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 12:30 | 4599002 MEAN BUSINESS
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YES, it' a MEAN business. Just ask Jimmy Page and The Firm ; ) Sorry, gotta RUSH

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:47 | 4599329 LaoTzu60606
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didn't you used to work for the Hues Corporation?  I guess necessity is the Mother(s) of Invention

there, no?  I wil just have to take that on Blind Faith.

 

lt

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 14:44 | 4599624 acetinker
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Did you say omelette?  What kind of a name is that for fella..?

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 11:48 | 4598789 TheMeatTrapper
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With all the leaks that have been happening, and the NSA revelations that everything everywhere is captured - TPTB must really be starting to question whether or not everything they say now will end up on YouTube. 

We need some of our own Presidential and Congressional meetings put on YouTube. 

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 12:15 | 4598907 Tall Tom
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The surveilance knife cuts both ways and deep. This may even be the result of a rouge agent(s) within the NSA. (Turkey is a NATO Operative)

 

NSA Internal Conflict??? Bring it on. Let the spies be spyin' on themselves. Let there be a complete erosion of trust internally. Let there be a loss of confidence. That divided house, as a result, will become unstable and collapse.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:16 | 4599199 BigJim
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The very 'righteousness' of the US' justification propaganda is its greatest weakness, when its operatives discover they've been recruited to an evil cause and are very, very pissed off to discover they've been lead up the garden path. How can they make amends? By sharing the revelations with their fellow dupes. Come on, NSA guys - we know you're reading this stuff... you know the right thing to do... and it ain't keeping the empire's secrets secret. Get leaking!

Because in a totalitarian fascist empire, you may end up first among slaves... but you'll still be a slave. Please don't let it happen. 

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:28 | 4599251 Theta_Burn
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+1 BigJim

I've wondered the same thing about those idiots chemtrailing the planet. how a program of that scope be carried out with 98% of the population oblivious..

Don't they and their family live under the same sky?

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:55 | 4599372 Calmyourself
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http://www.barnhardt.biz/2014/03/24/on-the-777-vinegar-and-oscillating-f...

Chemtrails yeah how do the PTB not breathe these?

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 23:28 | 4601481 UselessEater
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They have special PTB antidotes and trust in satanic ceremonies.... nah they be underground dwellers with alien DNA!!

God knows, but they don't seem to worry about little problems like DU, atomic testing on a grand scale, etc...wonder of a good neighbour is an elite ranch in the middle of no-where?

You linked the pink gun lady who wears a hugh tie!! ... she's a fascinating person and very unusual in my little world view :)

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 18:32 | 4600555 Lost Word
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When will the NSA leak tapes of the 9-11 false flag inside job Government conspiracy?

Must be in their archives somewhere.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 11:50 | 4598796 McMolotov
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Say it ain't so, Erdo!

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 11:51 | 4598802 Seasmoke
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Anyone have all the False Flag videos on Israel ??

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 11:59 | 4598848 Quus Ant
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I had them, but they seem to have disappeared and in their place are all these disgusting child porn videos... what the hell.

just a second... someone's at the door.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:27 | 4599247 Herd Redirectio...
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*chuckle*

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 14:02 | 4599406 Calmyourself
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Boy you respond quickly, you must have screaming fast access and its almost like a robot typist your so fast Wow, how do you do it?

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 14:09 | 4599434 Quus Ant
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one finger at a time.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 11:53 | 4598803 JustObserving
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Let's not forget the Nobel Prize Winner's lies on sarin that he was using to start the war with Syria.  All the newspapers in the land of the free refused to publish Seymour Hersh's story and it was printed in the London Review of Books:

Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh has published an article demonstrating that the US government and President Barack Obama knowingly lied when they claimed that the Syrian government had carried out a sarin gas attack on insurgent-held areas last August.

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/12/10/pers-d10.html

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:18 | 4599201 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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I do not believe that Barrack Hussein Obama, the first African American President of the United States Of America, understands the difference between a lie and the truth. It is something that never mattered in his life prior to becoming the First African American President, so it is of little importance now.

 

Not only that but I am positive it is racist to point it out now, so he has that going for him.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 14:05 | 4599417 silvermail
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Honest and decent man can not be president of the United States. The system does not allow such a person to the authorities.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 15:33 | 4599901 NotApplicable
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True as well for every supervisory position under him, all the way down to local offices. As I tell people, you cannot trust so-and-so, because they are either too stupid to understand how things really work (userful idiot), or they are too evil to care (boot-licking, power-seeker).

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 23:35 | 4601492 UselessEater
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mini-republics or soverign states might be best.... all this regionalisation/globalisation is just no damned good

although TPTB will not let a small fish escape (mafia rule - one gets away with it, everyone thinks they can) that might be what we need an end to federal governments

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 01:36 | 4601637 Seer
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BIG = FAIL.

It's not a question of IF but WHEN.

The historical norm is tribes and clans.  Reversion to the mean...

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 11:51 | 4598804 SheepDog-One
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What a DICK!!

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 11:51 | 4598806 ziggy59
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Yell "FIRE" in a movie theater, when none exists, you go away for ever, as you should...

These muddafuckers can cause false flags, support the lies to go to war, regime change, kill thousands on those lies, and what??

...unbelievable

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 11:51 | 4598808 Theta_Burn
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And this pc of shit wants in with NATO and the EU?

Erdogan was considered one of the best leaders Turkey has had not long ago, how the fuck can you blow that?

Radical Islam...won't be very happy with this

 

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 11:53 | 4598820 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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Turkey IS NATO. How's that for the "free" world?

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 12:08 | 4598900 Rakshas
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and on that note:

We got a thousand points of light
For the homeless man
We got a kinder, gentler,
Machine gun hand
We got department stores and toilet paper
Got styrofoam boxes for the ozone layer
Got a man of the people, says keep hope alive
Got fuel to burn, got roads to drive.

Keep on rocking in the free world ......... Neil Young 

 

Same shit different decade....

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 15:35 | 4599906 NotApplicable
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Funny that Neil wrote that, yet STILL advocates for a kinder, gentler machine-gun hand.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 15:55 | 4600009 Philalethian
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"Turkey IS NATO."

Exactamundous!

Instigate a war between turkey and Syria and ba-bam-bo! Here come the excuse to rally the population elimination agenda. Nuklear world war caused by yet another false flag event. Even now, the evil satanitic-zionists are planing another false flag event. There are drills happening today and this weekend in preparation for the well planned economic crash, and martial law:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cjS8MwDDg0

http://www.scribd.com/doc/214240146/DHS-FEMA-National-Exercise-Program-C...

Ominous sign:

http://www.hangthebankers.com/israel-begins-shutdown-of-its-embassies-wo...

Wicked history:

http://www.ascertainthetruth.com/att/index.php/911-a-false-flag-operatio...

http://cleveland.indymedia.org/news/2006/10/22798.php

How many of you folks remember the first time the head puppet soetero was running for office and how he used to hammer on Russia even before he was elected by the Diebold Machines? He was telegraphing his role in the future even then as the puppet that would be the tool to start WW III. All as planed of course. Where there is pre-planing there is premeditation of murder. Why aren't ALL these evil warmongering asshats in jail by now? IGNORANCE! If you keep the world nations in a state of 3-D ignorance, you can lead them off the cliff and they will not care, or know it until they are doing 133 MPH towards the bottom of the pit.

 

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 17:38 | 4600367 Paveway IV
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The drill is CapEx 2014 - a big DHS/FEMA/Mil exercise. Started *today* as a matter of fact.

Here's one of the more interesting exercises: A North American Aerospace Defense Command (old NORAD) Noble Eagle event involving a 777 passenger jet enroute from Japan to Seattle with engine trouble and *no communications*. I suppose they have to decide whether to blow it away or force it to land.

Noble Eagle ops are the military protecting the U.S. from terrorists, just like the 9/11 exercises.

Now what are the chances of an exercise involving a 777 inbound to the U.S. with no communications, i.e., hijacked or maybe a terrorist nuke-delivery platform? This is almost a bad rerun of the military exercises on 9/11 that caused so much confusion and almost ensured a successful fake attack.  

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 21:59 | 4601218 Freddie
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qXksDwJMQI

Two Malaysian Airways 777s parked since 2013: one in Israel and one in France?

These planes new cost about $280 million.   Why have 2 been parked in two places since 2013?

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 01:41 | 4601644 Seer
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Yeah, it's one guy: Barry.

There's no desperation lurking, none from the early 70s when the US essentially defaulted (USD unharnessed from gold) and peaked in out production AND established connections with China.  And the actions of Donald Rumsfeld (perpetual lurker behind the scenes since the early 60s) and his lies of WMD.  And 9/11, well...

Yeah, it's one guy: Barry.

Party Pussy.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 11:52 | 4598810 buzzsaw99
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erdogan you know you really are an asshole?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgpZ0fUixs

 

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 12:34 | 4599018 Tall Tom
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And he is proud of it.

 

Great tune. Still LMAO....LMAHO. Shades of Zappa lyrics.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 11:52 | 4598813 Rising Sun
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LMFAO!!!!!

 

WHAT A STUPID FUCKING ASSHOLE!!!!!!

 

Erdogan - YOU NAZI PIG!!!!!!

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 11:55 | 4598825 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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I guess they forgot about sites like Vimeo...

Fucking Turkish idiots.

 

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 11:55 | 4598829 semperfi
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next up:  Langley via Obama leaked video on a false flag nuke attack on new york to start a war with russia

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 12:11 | 4598920 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Right on cue

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/585695-2-alarm-fire-near-penn-station/

Firefighters put out a 2-alarm fire on 34th Street between 7 and 8 Avenues this morning. Twelve trucks were on scene.

The Fire Department of New York (FDNY) got the call at 8:15 and the fire was under control at 9:35. It was put out within an hour and half.

FDNY Deputy Chief Mike McPartland said the fire occurred at the first floor of a vacant store in a one-story building at 245 West 34th St. The fire then spread between the ceiling and the roof, prompting 2-alarm. Firefighters were able to prevent it from spreading to other buildings.

It seems the store was under renovation. “They had workers in there with torches,” McPartland said. He wasn’t able to confirm, whether the torches were the cause of the fire.

...

Nukes, pols whining about cutbacks in funds to keep NYC safe from 'TERRYISM', torch fires. The propaganda machine is seeding the brains for the big scare tactic false flag 'they hate us for our freedom' event.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:29 | 4599259 Herd Redirectio...
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Torches?  Not flashlights, but torches?  And we are even sitting here asking, "Hey, I wonder if those men with torches started the fire?"

 

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 15:37 | 4599921 NotApplicable
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Because... lawyers.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 22:14 | 4601277 Freddie
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In the UK, flashlights are called torches.  My guess is what the other ZH member said.  The torches could have been plumbers with welding torches or those little propane things to solder copper pipe.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 14:06 | 4599421 shovelhead
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Or maybe the plumber set the building on fire sweating copper pipe.

Happens all the time in old wood frame constuction to careless plumbers.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 11:56 | 4598831 Colonel Klink
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Just goes to show you what type of people are running the Western world and their allies.

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 01:45 | 4601646 Seer
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Desperate times call for desperate people doing desperate things...

It's how I called the lead-in to the Iraq war.  I figure that TPTB (West) KNOW that it's coming to an end and that their only real hope is to delay via wars: distract their own citizens- seems to work every time (always plenty enough crusaders and flag-wavers to take the bait).

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 11:57 | 4598837 Mad_max
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USA and EU pushing Turkish involvment to topple assad. That Quatar South Pars -syria- Trukey- EU pipeline is extra necessary now they have pissed of the Russians.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 12:06 | 4598891 Winston Churchill
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I'm sure Putin thought of that.Sure those Russians dismantling the chemical weapons

brought their own air defence S400's.You can never be too careful.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 12:01 | 4598869 Shrapnel
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Big government wouldn't exist without false flags. Everything is manipulated/staged. Hegelian Dialectic.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:29 | 4599255 Blood Spattered...
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Yep, from the Reichstag Fire to 9/11, history is riddled with such examples.  Kudos on knowing your history!

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 12:02 | 4598875 BandGap
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One of these "efforts" will eventually work. A couple hundred dead, people filing other people bloodied, dead or dying. Cue the sobbing woman or the child with the 1000 yeard stare.

How many of these "conversations" are not intercepted? Does anyone really believe that these efforts will stop just because they are exposed? This is like thinking you can wipe out your cockroach problem by stepping on them. One of these planned attacks WILL succeed and the sheep WILL be mobilized. Plan accordingly.

On an up note, I see the Snorg-t girl is back. If only I was 30 years younger and without the wife and six kids. Sigh.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:27 | 4599242 Blood Spattered...
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Actually none of their "efforts" will move the needle.  We're numb and desensitized to violence now.  I don't think TPTB acocunted for the level of apathy towards violence that has prevailed here in 'Murika.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 12:04 | 4598886 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Payback's a bitch.

http://rt.com/news/sarin-gas-turkey-al-nusra-021/

Turkish security forces found a 2kg cylinder with sarin gas after searching the homes of Syrian militants from the Al-Qaeda linked Al-Nusra Front who were previously detained, Turkish media reports. The gas was reportedly going to be used in a bomb.

The sarin gas was found in the homes of suspected Syrian Islamists detained in the southern provinces of Adana and Mersia following a search by Turkish police on Wednesday, reports say. The gas was allegedly going to be used to carry out an attack in the southern Turkish city of Adana.

On Monday, Turkish special anti-terror forces arrested 12 suspected members of the Al-Nusra Front, the Al-Qaeda affiliated group which has been dubbed "the most aggressive and successful arm” of the Syrian rebels. The group was designated a terrorist organization by the United States in December.

Police also reportedly found a cache of weapons, documents and digital data which will be reviewed by police.

Following the searches, five of those detained were released following medical examinations at the Forensic Medicine Institution Adana. Seven suspects remain in custody. Turkish authorities are yet to comment on the arrests.

Russia reacted strongly to the incident, calling for a thorough investigation into the detention of Syrian militants
in possession of sarin gas.

...

Apparently not everyone in the Turkish military got the memo or the raid would have never happened....

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 12:11 | 4598921 thamnosma
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Almost half of them were released upon medical examination?   Lots of sick rebels I guess.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:33 | 4599274 Herd Redirectio...
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Yep, 12 men captured, 7 men in custody.

What exactly does that tell you?  That perhaps those other men were better connected, better trained, part of a different organization altogether perhaps???   Like an intelligence agency?  Naaaah...

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 16:16 | 4600089 Philalethian
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Yer on target, Herd.

From the RT article above:

"Police also reportedly found a cache of weapons, documents and digital data which will be reviewed by police."

One can only wonder what information was in the "digital Data" they got and how it connected the US govt sponsored terrorists to the Sarin gas. This story is a direct connection to those evil murderous AL-CIA-DUH mccain-mercenaries who did the false flag chemical attack in Syria that was rapidly exposed by the POWER OF CROWD-SOURCING. Oh digital-god, please give us a mccain conversation on utube talking about setting up false flag events in Syria or Iran.

Give thanks for the truth that will set us ALL free.

Free of the babylonian evil-horrid-satanic-zionist-banksters.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 19:05 | 4600650 Lost Word
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Similar to the "dancing Israeli's" of 9-11?

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 23:23 | 4601472 Freddie
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The group was designated a terrorist organization by the United States in December.

The same guys McCain did a photo op with not that long after Benghazi?

https://www.google.com/search?q=images+mccain+with+al+qaeda&tbm=isch&tbo...

  I bet none of these Syrian rebels are Syrian at all.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 12:06 | 4598892 kurt
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Somebody needs to Kadaffy these freaks.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 12:08 | 4598902 alangreedspank
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"I'll dig those YouTubes up by the roots!"

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 12:15 | 4598938 vyeung
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All I know is the intelligence community is hard at work. Turkey has been the hub for the Iran oil sales work around for some years now, so I'm not sure what they have planned for Syria, because overall Syria is also key in their plans. Its getting very complex, but the timing is very fishy imho.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 16:44 | 4600184 groundedkiwi
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2017 is when turkey and israel hope to start selling gas to europe. Always follow the money.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 12:37 | 4598947 Rakshas
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Yes this guy is an asshole of the highest order..... but.... he has fallen out of favor with the puppetmasters and they want him gone and he knows it, but he has alot he can say about all of this shit, god I hope he sees what's coming and takes one "final fuck" you and posts it all to the very Youtube he has just blocked.  This cunt knows where all the bodies are buried ....... they're gonna Gaddafi ya man or worse send you to the UK - spill it man data dump to twitter ...... if you hide the lies  the terrorists win....

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 12:17 | 4598952 centerline
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Without a doubt, the internet is game changer.  This time is different in this regard.  If they block it, it leaks in somewhere else and winds up seen by even more people.  If they kill the internet alltogether, people will know they are being screwed.  And it is getting harder and harder to use the disinformation techniques to obscure the truth.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 12:51 | 4599093 11b40
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If the Internet is killed, so is business.

Commerce now runs on the Web.  No going back.  Just try doing business for one day without your Internet connection.  Virtually impossible for a little guy like me, and absolutely impossible for any major corp.  Instant death for a multi-national corp.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:19 | 4599211 TheMeatTrapper
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Absolutely. The Internet of Things and big data are exploding. I do a lot of work with NoSQL databases that hold terrabytes of data generated by sensors and machines that connect to the internet. These machines talk to each other, make decisions based on other machines, etc. 

Grid down means catastrophic failure. 

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 16:19 | 4600101 Philalethian
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"Grid down means catastrophic failure."

Shhhhhh....don't tell the zio-con false flaggers that.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 12:19 | 4598955 Seize Mars
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If these morons had been successful in the effort to blow Syria wide open, do you think they'd be in trouble right now? I don't think so...

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 12:21 | 4598963 Platinum
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The various leaks coming out in the last few weeks have made things very interesting. Hopefully we'll see a lot more "immoral" leaks in the future.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 12:27 | 4598994 YHC-FTSE
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This is epic. On a par with the former president of Italy, Francesco Cossiga's statement that 9/11 was orchestrated by the CIA and Mossad. (Which our diligent and brilliant JustObserving posted recently). Wonder what happened to the worldwide outrage.....

 

Putin should spend a couple of billion buying time on every msm outlet in the West where it is possible,  or this too will get buried. We are ruled by genuine psychopaths and sociopaths deeply entrenched in the media. That's not hyperbole,  but likely the understatement of the year. 

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 12:57 | 4599126 Frostfan1
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A little different actually.   The Italian guy was a has been with no connections to anything.  These Turks are actually sitting in power able to start a false flag. 

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 19:10 | 4600662 Lost Word
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MSM will not sell time to anyone contrary to their world view.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 21:40 | 4601171 The_Prisoner
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The MSM is spinning this by omitting the false flag part.

According to Bloomberg they were discussing how to react to a Sirian attack.

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/turkey-blocks-youtube-after-syria-leak-20140328-zqnv9.html

it's beyond chutzpah!

 

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 15:53 | 4603536 Lost Word
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The BBC and another UK website also mentioned the Turk & Syria attack discussion youtube leak, but

omitted the false flag story.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 12:30 | 4599001 Catullus
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I'm sure after spending so much effort trying to ban it, it must not be true.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 12:35 | 4599022 Quinvarius
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All POS politicians who plan to murder their own citizens need to be executed with extreme prejudice.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 12:38 | 4599036 Joe A
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Fuck you Erdogan.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 12:40 | 4599051 Spastica Rex
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Wow.

Will this distract people from important news, like the debilitating drinking problem of Keith Partridge?

Oh, Keith!

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 12:57 | 4599127 HamRove
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Let this be a warning for everyone trying to start WWIII.....You will be EXPOSED. Pants down around your ankles EXPOSED. Pants down around the ankles with your cock in you hand EXPOSED. Pants down around your ankles with your cock in you hand with a spank mag in the other EXPOSED.

Shall I go on?

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 16:37 | 4600153 Philalethian
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As the old dynasty of cold war theorists and propaganda warmonger supporters all slowly die, more and more will the power of world-wide crowdsourcing grow. People are waking up and deciding to DO the right-up thing BEFORE the entire chinga hits the rotating device.

Maybe some day in the distant future we can all talk about how the worst world war ever was diverted and the warmongers all arrested to avert that world war to kill every living thing on the planet. More and more the Truth is overcoming the lies, dis/mis-information, and the lame stream media's diarrhea of the mouth that is spewed upon the innocent world's people every day. The world's people are just sick and farking tired of this carp and they plainly SEE who appears just and right, and who is not. Any one who actually cares, can see the plain old evil for what it is.

Give thanks to the Truth/Lightbrigaders who are stepping up to the plate of history to DO THE RIGHT THING.

Let the power of crowdsourcning continue to blow the clarions call, and shine the light on the evil that is killing us ALL!

http://www.infowars.com/msnbc-loses-another-quarter-of-its-viewers/

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:07 | 4599169 Notsobadwlad
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Reminds me of the UN commie-banker funded hit squads running around the US killing innocent people and creating false crises so that the Obummster can steal people's guns for his UN commie-basnker masters.

... and also the UN commie hit squads in other countries stirring up "so called" popular revolutions to overthrough legitimate governments.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:07 | 4599173 DeliciousSteak
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Seems like Erdogan really pissed off some people in the west and now he refuses to go quietly. Oh well, at least this should ensure that Syrian escalation is off for now. Turkish escalation takes priority.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 16:40 | 4600172 Philalethian
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Always remember, when the attention is being drawn over there, it is time to do a 180 and see what is going on over here.

Distractions...distractions...distractions.

What's next?

Another false flag event somewhere else?

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:21 | 4599176 Son of Captain Nemo
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When we start getting these kinds of intercepts from places like Tel Aviv, Washington and London you will know we have turned the corner and the rats are all fleeing the sinking ship.

I'd be interested to know if anyone is tracking President Obama's sincere attempt for a change in his nearly six years in office by warning us about a potential existential threat coming from the Israeli Embassy in Manhattan?...

Probably not?... But has anybody managed to consider the timing of his statement the other day coupled with the closure of Israeli Embassies worldwide now with this latest wrinkle for the NATO gang with "Erdogan's eavesdropper" rearing it's ugly head???

Intresting times indeed folks!

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 14:12 | 4599443 Son of Captain Nemo
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"I'd be interested to know if anyone is tracking President Obama's sincere attempt for a change in his nearly six years in office by warning us about a potential existential threat coming from"...

NEVERMIND!

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:09 | 4599182 the not so migh...
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This is a war crime!!!!!!!

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:50 | 4599351 tony wilson
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it is a war crime.

the man or woman that made the tape recording needs to be arrested and rendered to diago garcia.

they need to be put on the malaysian plane with the suitcase nuke.

the rest of the mi6,cia and mossad plan can continue as per schedule.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 19:17 | 4600680 Lost Word
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Or maybe the 777 being hidden in Israel.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 14:17 | 4599467 farmerjohn2112
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All wars are crimes.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:10 | 4599186 hotrod
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Yet the Dollar rallys today and gold smashed with Putin's payment plans and Turkey's Nato compliance.  When does everyone tell the dollar and Barry to fuck off.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:15 | 4599196 Cangaroo.TNT
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You have to admit, this is so shockingly absurd that it is absolutely brilliant:

UPDATE: *TURKEY'S DAVUTOGLU SAYS LEAK IS 'DECLARATION OF WAR': TURKIYE

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 19:18 | 4600686 Lost Word
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War declaration Against the leaker?

Did they say who is the leaker?

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:17 | 4599202 MansaMusa
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Makes sense. Mossad steals a jumbo jet, rigs it with a nuke and happily delivers it to the luck recipient.   Meanwhile, the Asian nations are scrambling around like a dog chasing its tail, finding the bits of evidence that was planted there...

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:21 | 4599222 TheMeatTrapper
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It would be a lot easier to buy a jet, forge the papers, strip the fram, etc.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:37 | 4599295 Herd Redirectio...
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The nukes have already been distributed.

Look up 'gun-type nuke'.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 19:24 | 4600700 Lost Word
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Less expensive to hijack a jet.

They don't have enough American dollars to spend buying a 777

for a false flag attack.

Of course, on 9-11, some say, the actual Boeing jets that hit the Twin Towers

were US Air Force Boeing drones,

substituted for the hijacked passenger Boeing jets.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 17:17 | 4600290 Philalethian
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Man, how well expressed.

Just a great big huge shout-out to you ALL. Thank you.

We have truly come a long ways when 99% of all the fine contributers to this forum are so bright, beautiful, and brilliant in the expressions of pure gold Truth. It resonates in the Heart and makes one feel good there. It could be bad news or good, it is Truth, the pure gold food of the Soul.

Much thanks and gracious gratitude to you ALL for all you freely express here on ZH. Step back for a moment and pat yer selves on the back for all the positivity, and bright truthful Light/Knowledge you all lay down here. Enough kudos can not be given to those who are here and among the brotherhood/sisterhood of the greatest Lodge of Truth in the world. It is the one place that every soul on board can come to for a cool fresh drink of the life saving waters of Truth. The resultant is always going to be absolute appreciation for you all freely flowing these words of Freedom, and Peace.

Bless'ed is...as the blessed does.

 

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:17 | 4599204 Tenshin Headache
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The YouTube video I'm looking forward to seeing is Erdogan hanging from a streetlight.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:19 | 4599216 Oldballplayer
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No offense to my Turkish friends, but when I hear guttoral speech like Turkish all I can think of is KSM in his wife beater shirt, a 3 day beard on a face shaved three hour ago, shitty coffee, and crappy cigarettes.  And a nine year old boy in a heap in the corner covered in shit.

Needless to say, I am not a fan.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:59 | 4599390 Magnum
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Don't be a sucker.  We are told KSM went to an American university then decided to mastermind 9/11 but the KSM we have in custody doesn't speak a word of English, has never been put on trial, is a stooge patsy of zero mental capacity. A retarded person plucked off the streets and held up as the mastermind -- get with the program and research the lies.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 14:47 | 4599637 SmittyinLA
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thank you for the visualization, may you have dreams of barney Frank 

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:21 | 4599221 Sandmann
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Victoria Nuland is getting the USA into a deep hole. Vengeful against Russia, home of her forebears, she lets Erdogan think he can start war with Syria hoping Israel and the US will follow him....but he might just set Iraq in flames and Lebanon and watch a Kurdish Rising take huge chunks of Turkey.

Saudi Arabia would be terrified and the US would have a real disaster unfolding throughout the region.

Still those National Guardsmen just love international travel to sandy places

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:26 | 4599236 Peter Pan
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Just wait for the release of Turksh conversations between Erdogan and his generals relating to Greece.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 16:00 | 4600031 pot_and_kettle
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My guess is that there'll be a pretext for invasionsoon enough - protecting " ethnic minorities " in Thrace or some such..

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 07:59 | 4601912 Escapedgoat
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It is NOT A GUESS, that's where the pipeline goes through, from Azerbajan.

the Greek Politicians are in on the game against their POPULOUS.

It is going to be during the 2014  The Greek military is disbanded as we speak, in case they do not act according to plan and fuck up the setup , like in 1940 when Mussolini got hammered UNEXPECTEDLY. WHEN the plan was to welcome them with open fascist arms (Greece had a FASCIST REGIME  at the time)

The Germans HAD to invade AND THAT FUCKED THE BARBAROSSA PLAN  in the EAST, and we all know how that ENDED.

Now they ARE PLANNING IT MORE CAREFULLY.

The Entire Greek political Establishment from The Communist Party to the Extreme "Right" Golden Dawn are in on the Plan, their Supporters are totally IGNORANT  (As they are naturally the VICTIMS)

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:33 | 4599270 22winmag
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In a word... whackadoodle.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:44 | 4599331 Obama_4_Dictator
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 Let's get it on! In this corner, we have a strong leader, with a strong approval rating in his country, with financial tools and weapons at his disposal and many new allies lining up on his side.....and in this corner we have a bi-sexual, non-americancitizen, who is despised by many and shown he is inept in every way as a leader, with no financial tools at his disposal because of the debt he created and with old allies bailing on him by the day....let the games begin!

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:46 | 4599341 IReallyDontCare
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It goes back to the old saying "Truth is treason in the empire of lies"

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:47 | 4599342 Bryan
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My opinion:  I think their written language has way too many squiggles and dots and stuff hanging all around the letters.  Clean it up, people!  No wonder you talk like you got marbles in your mouth.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:47 | 4599344 besnook
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when are you ignorant people going to realize .gov is here to help you. you are the problem if you don't believe this and will be dealt with accordingly.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:54 | 4599367 Peter Pan
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Did you forget the sarc button?

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 14:14 | 4599449 besnook
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sarc button is for stupid people. i caught three as of now.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:52 | 4599361 Magnum
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Time to revisit 9/11, all the evidence fingering mossad as the real culprit, starting with the irrefutable WTC7 architects & engineers findings.  

Google Dominic Suter

Google Richard Gage

The sooner this truth is known the sooner our dead NYC firefighters & victims around the world can truly rest in peace.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:53 | 4599364 lolmao500
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That POS should be arrested and executed for treason.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 14:01 | 4599402 Son of Captain Nemo
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Just like Obama, Netanyahu and Cameron???

If we're sincere about the change -Here's how we'll do it!

https://waveofaction.org/job/col-harry-riley-washington-d-c-solutions-operation-american-spring/

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 14:17 | 4599455 Son of Captain Nemo
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That POS should be arrested and executed for treason.

POS UNITED!!!

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 13:57 | 4599383 Jack Burton
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The rulers of NATO are a nest of vipers looking to strike out because that is what they do. NATO is the new NAZI party.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 19:40 | 4600759 Lost Word
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Curious readers might like to know,

Why the new avatar?

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 14:23 | 4599491 kill switch
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Is it me or are we witnessing an amazing amount of leaked conversations lately!!! Are we being gamed??

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 16:00 | 4600028 css1971
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Information wants to be free. Once something has been digitised, the cost and difficulty of copying and disseminating it is essentially zero.

And it seems Russia's intelligence services are a notch above the USA/NATO (alternatively we have some sane people in the NATO based services, this is my real hope).

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 02:35 | 4601682 The wheels on t...
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i actually think Snowden must be consulting with Russia, which must be helping.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 14:24 | 4599495 Miss Expectations
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Full Petard.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 14:26 | 4599498 Gadfly
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"I mean, armed forces are a “tool” necessary for you in every turn." 

There you have it folks.  That is precisely what our leaders think of our soldiers and military -- a useful "tool," at thier disposal, to do their bidding.  Behind the ra ra, my country tis of thee patriotic bullshit, this is what they really think.  We're a fucking tool.  Their tool.  Really makes me want to put on a uniform and pick up a gun and shoot someone.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 17:38 | 4600369 10mm
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Soldiers are nothing but useless pawns, used for foreign policy.      Henry Kessinger. 

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 18:50 | 4600601 lakecity55
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Well, I served, proud of it, but at my age now I would not pick up a rifle unless the country was invaded or the political leadership went Stalin on us.

I work with younger soldiers all the time. Most are more aware than you might presume. They still have to follow orders like I did. Personally, I think that is why Bath House is Reducing the Military and Beefing up his Domestic Army, who we need not name, but we know who they are.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 14:41 | 4599605 SmittyinLA
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"Having a region made up of organizations of similar nature will constitute a vital security risk for us"

 

Exactly who is "us"? 

 


Thu, 03/27/2014 - 14:42 | 4599613 shovelhead
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I feel bad for Ertogan.

It's getting tougher to be a tyrant these days.

Nobody wants to cooperate.

Israelis bitchslap his boat, the kids riot when he wants to cut down trees and now he gets outed on his stashing money away and false flag plans to heat up Syria...

"Dammit, this was supposed to be a fun job. What happened?"

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 14:58 | 4599704 dogismycopilot
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What is amazing is the Internet. Imagine if this were 1970. We would be lined up to KILL COMMIES for good old us of a A because we would not know jack shit and we would be isolated.

Now we are united, we have information, we can record and recall things (you can keep your doctor), we can see back in time (turn them in mr and mrs America) .... We are reaching a POLITICAL SINGULARITY where in real time we can see them lying and stealing from us.

Fuck why do we need DC? We can run the US as one gigantic crowd sourced peoples and fuck the politicians who think they are better, smarter, and more powerful than us. Really, they are just very bad middle men. Fuck the middle man. Go direct. Power to the people can happen now.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 15:55 | 4600010 css1971
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How many wars in the past have been caused by psychopathic leaders? How many millions have died for a fake cause?

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 16:44 | 4600186 Gadfly
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Sadly, most of them.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 16:58 | 4600226 Wave-Tech
Thu, 03/27/2014 - 18:50 | 4600602 Runs-With_Toast
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This sort of thing, this growing public awareness, happened in Europe in about 1910 - 1913. No internet then but they printed like crazy, got a real anti PTB thing going. Now its going gangers with the net, far bigger, its beyound being tamed now.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 19:46 | 4600788 Lost Word
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1913.

And then we got the Fed.

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 02:45 | 4607239 Runs-With_Toast
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And WW1

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 17:01 | 4600237 messystateofaffairs
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Nothing out of the ordinary, just another political sociopath being a sociopath. Thanks to the internet we can watch these morally crippled demented creatures slobber around in near real time.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 20:35 | 4600971 FredFlintstone
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Sociopaths rule!

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 17:10 | 4600262 ImpotentRage
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Cue his US masters throwing him under the bus.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 17:12 | 4600271 Stylianos Kyriacou
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My God I love the internet ;)

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 17:46 | 4600390 loveyajimbo
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BathHouse Barry's attempt to heat up his next attempt at a (particularly clumsy) false flag (Ukraine) garnered NO applause... one particularly loud and disgusting fart was heard... but I don't think that counts...

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 17:47 | 4600397 JDFX
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er, isn't it illegal for a country to plot acts of agression against another to resolve any disputes ? 

Kellogg Briand Pact 1928

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kellogg%E2%80%93Briand_Pact

So, international arrest warrants from the ICC should be expected.

</sarcasm>

 

 

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 17:49 | 4600407 lakecity55
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Throw in a missing 777 from an Israeli hanger and you have a doozy.

Thu, 03/27/2014 - 18:28 | 4600541 Legolas
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Exactly.  That story yesterday kind of creeped me out...

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