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Ukraine's 'Freedom-Seeking' Nationalists Protest Government Building, Ministers Evacuated - Live Feed
Well that didn't take long.. the "nationalists" who freed the country from Yanukovych's apparent corrupt government in favor of a well-chosen US leadership, are now turning on the replacements:
- *UKRAINE NATIONALIST PRAVYI SEKTOR PROTESTS AT PARLIAMENT: TV5
- *UKRAINIAN PROTESTERS DEMAND INTERIOR MINISTER'S RESIGNATION
- *UKRAINE LAWMAKERS EVACUATED FROM PARLIAMENT BUILDING: TV5
Of course, this is a day after the party's leader was allegedly killed by Police, and following lawmakers demands that citizens return any illegally held guns. It seems reveolution is addictive...
Of course, bear in mind that the lawmakers are still discussing whether to vote for and approve the IMF aid package and this suggests things are on hold for a while...
Hundreds of the Right Sector members flood the square in front of Verkhovna Rada in the Ukrainian capital on Thursday night. Wearing masks and brandishing bats, they were shouting "Avakov, get out!"
Via RT,
Things are starting to get heated...
Knock Knock. #Kiev pic.twitter.com/E3Em1BvJ7H
— Russian Market (@russian_market) March 27, 2014
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And there's always time for a #selfie...
At the Kiev Parliament pic.twitter.com/AbnIvSknGi
— Russian Market (@russian_market) March 27, 2014
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I assume the national party makes up a small % but how many of these cats are there?
Let's see... 10% of 40 million makes for about 4 million of these cats. Hence the reason why Russian speakers in the East and South prefer not to stick around.
But the party's results in the elections were much better than that with 10,44%[nb 1] (almost a fourteenfold of its votes compared with the 2007 parliamentary elections[35][51]) The lion's share of these votes votes were won in Western Ukraine (30-40% in three Oblasts), while in Eastern Ukraine it won 1% of the votes.
And this is the problem with revolution. Once law is overturned the revolutionaries find out that even they need law in order to be recognized. Bút since they got rid of the legitamite govt., then logically anyone with a beef with the new boss can just do another revolution. Chaos is in charge and it's taking out the new boss.
Time to hire the ukranian mercenaries to storm the capitol.
they are anarchists
As are all people who understand liberty.
yes, but some like liberty to watch in TV or write liberty here, and some like liberty to REALY fight for, with REAL guns.....ehm like in USSA long long time ago, now that gene has been replaced there with write liberty, talk liberty or mostly with eat liberty gene...
Anarchy - the radical notion that other people are not your property. Molinari Institute
http://praxeology.net/anarchy-is-order.htm
#DisUnitedForUkraine
Anarchists? Oh, you mean tent dwelling, patchouli oil stinking foot sniffing Occupy types?
I think 'anarchist' implies violence (whether that's an MSM-installed perception is up for debate). Those patchouli oiled stinkers don't qualify as more than degraded hippies. Lord knows how many months after "Occupy Oakland" was formed and dissolved, these vegan, pot smoking layabouts are still here. The regular homeless don't like them either.
The real question is will Right Sector simply burn everything to the ground, simply for the other players not being in Right Sector.
Anarchism just means No Leader.
Where the fuck did you come up with 'violence'
You should keep your mouth shut or fingers off the keyboard if you have no clue what you are going on about.
This man is your friend - he fights for freedom...
#unfuckingbelievable
#totallyfuckingbelievablebecauseamericafucksupeverythingittouches
How about we dissolve all governments and figure it out from there.....
I second.
I third.
I fourth
Short hand..EU/West tried to enslave and take over another nation and inch closer to Russian NATO buffer Ukraine..supported a coup and throw out the constitution and have failed again as expected..guess they should have spent some more cash either that or the actual Ukraine people have no desire to have their assets pledged for IMF collateral...
Im sure the U.S. however will have a issue if their new installed leaders coup leaders are counter couped?? Up is down. So we threw money at a few mercenaries..Putin got Crimea..a tip of the hat of how far the U.S. will go to get that pipeline through and those bases further East towards Russia and nothing to show for it and Putin will likely walk away with the Ukraine and a few other former U.S.S.R. lands in the next decade.
Brought them closer to China, India and a potential reserve currency and made us look powerless (Which we are) when it comes to nations that can defend themselves.
@John McCloy
...or maybe a majority of Ukrainians were against joining Putin's Eurasian Economic Union because these Ukrainians still harbor ill-will dating back to the Soviet occupation? Just maybe? I saw on-the-ground interviews where Maidan protestors did not want to join either Putin's EEU or the EU, but felt like the EU was the lesser of two evils becuase of the prevelance of mediating institutions within the EU whereas Putin's "soverign democracy" and EEU looks like a very simliar version of Soviet authoritarianism.
I agree do not think many of them are too keen but I do think if the truth comes out about the EU/US wanting to use them as a pawn and potentially shackle them with debt to extract cash and resources out of them and usurp their "true sovereignty" that they may lead them back into their arms because of their interference...especially if they determine that the sniper fire came from XE troops or provocateurs.
I do know that this should not in anyway be our problem nor they entitled to the wealth of the citizens here in the U.S. to later enrich the buddies at the top end of the pyramid.
@John McCloy
You're right and it is obvoius that Ukraine is being used by both sides (US/EU and Russia). There are no easy answers here and I don't know what path the Ukrainian people will ultimately choose, but one thing that boggles my mind is that I read so many ZH posts that seem to rip Ukrainians for ousting the obviously corrupt Yankovych. Tymoshenko may be just as corrupt (though she has not been installed as PM), but it's nice to see some citizens taking matters into their own hands, rather than (as here in the West), playing minecraft or Candy Crush, spending all day on FaceBook and taking selfies....good for the people of Ukraine for fighting political corrpution.
Amen Cursive!
@Vampyroteuthis Infernalis
Much appreciated. Feels like I've been fighting windmills this last week.
Yes, the big boys shouting at each others, almost coming to blows, but Ukranians had already lost Crimea to Russia and 40 tons of Gold to US. And they find out they would be sold to IMF/US/EU as serfs and the money go to Russia and China. In the end, they are pissed.
Cursive and McCloy - you seem to get it.
The question is, do the Ukrainians want 'freedom' under the IMF or 'freedom' under Putin?
At this point those are the 2 choices on the table. Perhaps a 3rd option will develop.
Sadly, it seems like WW2 all over again for Ukraine. Side with the Soviets who created a famine that killed ~6 million of your people OR join up with the Nazis. Its sooo easy to throw out labels like 'fascist and Neo-Nazsi' at Western Ukrainians once again, but given 'the choice' they had back then.....could the Nazi's do any worse than another man-made famine that would kill another ~6 million? There was always a chance I guess. But what kind of a FALSE choice was that?
Its non-stop pain for the common man in Ukraine. All they want is a chance. Here we go again.
Putin's Eurasian Economic Union
Putin's EEU
PEE U
Do you think that there might be non-sovereign forms of democracy?
Or you mean democracy of American colonies?
@silvermail
Don't be daft. It's not my choice of words. This is the term that Putin himself has used to describe his "style" of government. Google it, or just click this link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_democracy
I think Putin should call it fascism, but basically, "soverign democracy" sounds a lot better than Soviet or KGB-cronies-run-everything democracy.
Right now the lesser of two evils is Russia.
Nobody even comes close to the death, destruction, and misery the US has caused in the last 30 years.
Cursive
Don't be daft. It's not Putin choice of words. This is the main axiom of democracy.
This is the term that Putin himself has used not to describe for his "style" of government, but for describe "style" real power of the people in Russia.
Google it, or just click this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy
Because the concept of "democracy" means "government by the people."
But the concept of "American democracy" means "the power of the American people" over other nations.
Power of the people always is sovereign priori. Putin said that in Russia, we have "sovereign democracy". It means sovereign power by the people of Russia, but not U.S. power over the people of Russia.
I think, Obama should call power in USA as fascism, but basically, "not sovereign American democracy" sounds a lot better than neo-slavery or power one-party regime of the military-police dictatorship.
Time to send in Vitoria Nulland and her infamous cookies.
Suppose you boil shit in the pot........ you don`t know what`s going to float on the top.......
The US gubmint?
It's Egypt all over again. Now we just wait for the military to turn on the nationalists.
You would have to dress the NATO swine in Ukrainian uniforms.
Meanwhile, at the UN, the majority of countries of the General Assembly voted with the US resolution to reject Crimea as anything but an integral part of Ukraine.
Look to RT News for details, but I recall about 100 voting for, about 57 ABSTAINING (including China), and about 17 staunch allies supporting Russia.
Clearly Simon Black's favorite bastion of liberty -- Chile -- did not oppose it.
"I hate Illinois Nazis."
cant see
Here's another stream;
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-action-spilno-tv
thanks!
The "boxer" is trying to talk them down right now! Amazing shit. More right sector leaders will be killed by American death squads already in country to clean it up for IMF rule.
I dunno how that would match up...many of these have hard combat experience..
Caucaus and ..Ukrainians were deep into South Ossetia/Georgia...some killed there, including at least one female Ukrainian Sniper with another possible. Ukraine supplied a lot of arms..Some of the video from Georgia shows them in their right sector types emblems on battle dress, banner, slogans etc
Besides, those of the "right guys" who couldn't skip school or were just too young to experience jihad alongsine Muzychko in Georgia/Chechnya, have in recent years catched up on their training at ZATO financed military camps in W. Ukraine and Poland.
http://rt.com/in-motion/
Maybe it is time for NATO to put their mercenaries back on active duty in Poland like they were prior to the Euromaidan protests starting....
The only thing that could possibly make this more fiting are snipers firing on them protesting next. Notice none of those sniper bullets took out any Neo Nazis or NATO mercenary assets during Euromaidan.
Should become interesting when they become the government.
In a democratic free country people can protest in front of their Parliament.
In countries like Russia or USA (or USSA) - you get shot or jailed.
Who's free-ier?
In a democratic free country people can protest in front of their Parliament. And throwing Molotov cocktails at police and kill people from sniper rifles.
In countries like Russia you get jailed. In USA - you will shot immediately.
Who's free-ier?
The Nazis / Nationalists have served their purpose, expect quite a few more of them to "asked" to not spill the beans.
Right sector is a neo-nazi group which glorifies WWII war criminals and whose members fought against Russians along with Chechen muslim terrorists.
They are under partial control of Nuland, they were the main fighting force in Maidan, their opposition to all agreements was the only reason opposition won. But now they realize that US favors more civilized and obedient puppets and they are being marginalized so they want their share of power back.
Galizien 14
The so-called Ukrainian nationalists are actually an Israeli false flag.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/1.577114
http://www.jpost.com/International/In-Kiev-an-Israeli-army-vet-led-a-street-fighting-unit-343891
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/abraham-h-foxman/in-ukraine-new-government_b_4875833.html
Their Leader said no NATO on Ukraine lands...that seem positive
If these overcome the neocommies while bringing east to full rebellion, could be better scenario than prompt get locked into the west, imf,nato clutches...
could backfire into eu as east protests and fights back
Right Sector thugs have been bussed into the eastern cities. Already caught on videos threatening, beating, using knives and taking away pro Russian peoples. When do Russian Ukrainians fight back to these thugs?
Russian thugs have been bussed into the eastern cities. Already caught on videos threatening, beating, using knives and taking away pro Ukrainian peoples. When do Ukrainians fight back to these thugs?
IMF terms for Ukraine. Gas prices raised 50%, Government wages cut 70%, pensions down to $80 a month for the old, sale of state assets to western corporations. Just a start in return for billions of loans to be paid back over decades of debt slavery. No wonder the east wants to be like Crimea and declare freedom from EU rape squades.
Those are about identical to original EU demands.
Terrible, and thats just the really short list.
Hey man EU rape squads have a right to that revenue stream as anybody, so says our Senate 98-2.
Swing and Miss, Mike Lee Ted Cruz corporate posers. (they voted with the other 96 Socialist vermin)
Doesn't Ted Cruz's wife work for Goldman Sachs and wasn't she a term member for the Council on Foreign Relations and economic adviser to the Bush administration?
I am not saying it means anything but I thought once you are in the mafia you are in for life no?
Yo Ted, what's up with you're girl?
my guess is cia,mossad and mi6 have a list of targets.
before you know it right sector will have a new liberal makeover perfect for the bbc rewrite tv show.
the dangerous nazis will vanish,commit suicided,car crash boston breaked,heart attacked or the classic auto erotic hanging.
no nail guns needed here
just classic frank kitson techniques.
right sector pseudo gang numbskulls are fucked.
So are the "freedom seeking nationalists" seeking EU entry, Russo sphere or independence?
I'm confused and the bond debt chart didn't help.
Caught lying again:
http://rt.com/news/obama-kosovo-russia-mistake-705/
yo "nationalists" suggest you retaliate by killing 100 for every one of yours.... that'll get some attention and calm things down a bit and if it russians who killed him... well they are fair game too
where are the "elections" in the ukraine..... crimea had them.... maybe afraid of results??? right wing used and discarded like a condom... suckers... you fight and reap no reward... hey just like the ussa in iraq and afghanistan.... now i understand... just spill blood, promote dimwitted generals, leave and fuck over vets... 1 million without jobs.... way to go.. now all is clear
What will happen when a pro-Russian candidate will win the next presidential elections? Civil war? Do not forget that the last elections were won by a Russian candidate... Or will the majority vote for an old boxing legend or a ex-president who was jailed for stealing 300m $ from the state coffins? And how will the heavenly armed Nationalist react? We better buy some emergency food and drinks when the war starts. Putin will not accept a mess next door of the Kremlin. We are softies, he is not!