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West Desperate To Break Russia-China Axis, But "Money Talks" Straight To Putin

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Among other things, there is one major obstacle to the West's "costs" imposition on Vladimir Putin and his Russian economy - China. So far, a Xi Jinping has described, China has been a "sleeping lion" but today "the lion is awake" and with the Chinese President's first trip to Europe, as WSJ reports, western leaders are hoping to enlist his support over the crisis in Ukraine. However, privately, European diplomats concede that China's relationship with Russia remains solid and that was evidenced by their most recent investment in Russia's $10bn state-backed Direct Investment Fund (which just happens to be run by a former Goldman Sachs banker. It seems "money talks" once again and China will likely continue to play the middle ground.


US and European leaders, as the Wall Street Journal notes, will try to bring Xi to the other side of the red line...

European leaders are seizing on Chinese President Xi Jinping's inaugural trip to Europe to enlist his support over the crisis in Ukraine, but so far the Chinese leader has given no sign the diplomacy will succeed in driving a wedge between China and its strategic partner Russia.




In a Thursday address commemorating the 50th anniversary of China's diplomatic ties with France, Mr. Xi conveyed his views of foreign policy through grand pronouncements, quoting Napoleon Bonaparte's warning that China was a "sleeping lion" that would shake the world if awakened.


"Today, the lion is awake, and it's peaceful, nice and civilized," Mr. Xi said.


From the start, however, the Ukraine crisis has loomed large over Mr. Xi's closely watched visit.




European policy makers have sought to cast as a diplomatic victory China's decision to abstain from a United Nations Security Council vote condemning a referendum that cleared the way for Crimea to break away from Ukraine and join Russia.

But that is just spin as even they know that is unlikely China will take up support 'against' Russia...

Privately, European diplomats concede that China's relationship with Russia remains solid. China has often joined Russia in vetoing Security Council resolutions on issues like the civil war in Syria. In addition, Beijing's abstention vote on Crimea was less a departure from Moscow than a move consistent with Beijing's long-standing rejection of any meddling by foreign countries in its own domestic affairs, said a senior French diplomat.


Mr. Xi is walking a tightrope as he weighs China's partnership with Russia against its growing economic ties with the West.



"China will try to steer a middle course" on Ukraine, said Gudrun Wacker, an Asia specialist at the German Institute for International and Security Affairs in Berlin. "The conversation will be about what has to happen to make sure that Russia doesn't become an obstacle in these other negotiations."

While the three-day trip to Germany is unlikely to produce diplomatic breakthroughs, it could strengthen economic ties.

But, as The FT reports, it is always about "follow the money" and China is not pulling back from Russian investment at all...

Russia’s $10bn state-backed fund has tapped Chinese and Middle Eastern sovereign wealth fund money in a bid to show it can attract foreign capital into the country even if US and European investors turn away following the annexation of Crimea.


Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF), which was set up by President Vladimir Putin three years ago and which counts Blackstone chief executive Stephen Schwarzman, Apollo’s co-founder Leon Black and Apax’s boss Martin Halusa on its international advisory board, is leading the purchase of a $200m stake in Sodrugestvo, a large oilseed processor and trader, alongside sovereign wealth funds including China Investment Corp.




“Obviously, what we see now, is that US and European investors are slowing down their investment pace. I expect we’ll do many more deals with Chinese and Middle Eastern investors going forward,” Mr Dmitriev said. “But we have significant hope of de-escalation going forward.”

But it's not just China...

In July, Mr Dmitriev, a former Goldman Sachs banker, announced the appointment of Ahmad Mohamed Al-Sayed, the chief executive of the Qatar Investment Authority, to RDIF’s international advisory board, heralding a possible collaboration with Qatar.

So Stephen Schwarzmann, Leon Black, Martin Halusa, the Qatar Investment authorirty, and Dominique Strauss Kahn are all on the advisory board of the RDIF and it's run by this guy:

Kirill A. Dmitriev, Chief Executive Officer, Russian Direct Investment Fund


Kirill Dmitriev is the Chief Executive Officer of the Russian Direct Investment Fund. Before being asked by the Russian government to run the fund, Mr. Dmitriev was President of Icon Private Equity, a leading private equity fund in the CIS with over $1 billion under management. Prior to establishing Icon, he was Co-Managing Partner of Delta Private Equity Partners, a leading private equity fund in Russia with over $500 million under management. Prior to joining Delta Private Equity in 2002, Mr. Dmitriev was Deputy General Director at IBS, the top Russian IT services provider.


He also worked as an investment banker with Goldman Sachs in New York and as a consultant with McKinsey & Company in Los Angeles, Moscow and Prague. Mr. Dmitriev is a Young Global Leader of the World Economic Forum in Davos and past Chairman of the Russian Venture Capital and Private Equity Association. He holds a BA in Economics with Honors and Distinction from Stanford University and an MBA with High Distinction (Baker Scholar) from the Harvard Business School.

Once again, Goldman's tentacles are embroiled...


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Fri, 03/28/2014 - 21:33 | 4604529 Ahmeexnal
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Impeach Ogolfer!

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 21:36 | 4604536 fonzannoon
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Why just Ogolfer? Look at this fuckin article...Blackstone...Goldman....etc. etc...and we are to believe that this shit we are watching is not all by design? What a global circle jerk with 1% bukake flying everywhere. What a total fucking joke this all is.

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 21:51 | 4604584 Yen Cross
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 Fonz when the "shit show" ends.   It's getting ugly. You mentioned "slow motion" train wrecks 2 years ago. You were right Fonz.

Docking the USS- Titanic takes time/

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 21:54 | 4604590 fonzannoon
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Good on you for finding a way to distance your money from your emotion Yen. Thats key. I still have a hard time with it.

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 22:03 | 4604601 Troll Magnet
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Too many Jews on the advisory board. Probably brought on to lie, cheat and steal. Not a bad move from Russia's perspective as long as they don't get double-crossed by them.

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 23:42 | 4604825 SafelyGraze
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"US Desperate To Join Russia-China Axis"

patience, US.  patience

sorry, europe

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 07:57 | 4605147 onthesquare
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There are the askanasian jews running the US with a strong direction from the head office in Isreal.

Now we see the tension between the original askanasian jews from ukrane, russia, georgia getting into a spat but that will be settled by the head office; one way or another.

I fail to find a askansian connect in china unless the askanasian bankers are there to close the circle.

keep your eye on the money and those who love money over everything else.

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 22:01 | 4604603 Yen Cross
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 Me casa es Su Casa Fonz.

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 22:03 | 4604605 fonzannoon
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remember the good times Yen

"Suddenly, the shadowy figure behind Zero Hedge was a full-blown cult hero—a blogger with a bullet. His readership of angry traders and anti-government malcontents celebrated his newfound power. “Welcome to the party pal!!!” declared one of his fans in the comments section."

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 22:13 | 4604623 Yen Cross
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  Thanks for the link.  As you age Fonz,anger takes a "back seat" to being alive and never giving up!

   Being a pussy in your thirties is ok. Once you realize your mortality, in your late 40's. things take perspective in a whole new way!

     You realize that the world doesn;t revolve around you, and that your family supercedes any need you'll ever have.

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 22:15 | 4604630 fonzannoon
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Thats good to know because I am still a pussy in my 30's :)

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 22:24 | 4604641 Yen Cross
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 Didn't mean it that way Fonz. freudian slip

    You'll see things differently.

  Does anyone like {VIKINGS} on History Channel?

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 22:28 | 4604654 fonzannoon
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dude I already have an enlarged prostate and early signs of tinnitus. Sadly my dream of playing shortstop for the yankees slips away more every day. All I have left is sharp language on here. That and your FX insight. Always appreciate you putting your 2 cents in on here without a link to a blog...which btw I would be glad to pay for. But the fact that you don't need to makes you the real deal.

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 23:41 | 4604824 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1's to dudes fonz and Yen for excellent dialog that matches THIS GUY'S experiences too with midde age...

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 08:02 | 4605149 onthesquare
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Check our Orthoprostate and stay away from things like proscar and maxflow; that stuff is not good for your boys.

Tinnitus; well try to get more sleep.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 09:01 | 4605191 fonzannoon
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thanks for the tips man. much appreciated.

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 22:23 | 4604646 bobert
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And when you get to be 60 you start to get angry again and direct it better.

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 22:47 | 4604712 UselessEater
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About the age my folks became 'awake'. Incredible family unity has resulted. The spin off is we're all a little better at balancing directed anger with action.

(errm fumbling action possibly but its better than risking a path to bitterness IMHO -btw that is not an observation I am directing at anyone here).

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 00:25 | 4604890 Ifigenia
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"Being a pussy in your thirties is ok. Once you realize your mortality, in your late 40's. things take perspective in a whole new way!

     You realize that the world doesn;t revolve around you, and that your family supercedes any need you'll ever have."


Very well said and it is what i feel.

When you see what those bastards are doing, fucking up the future of my children, i go nuts.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 06:56 | 4605118 matrix2012
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Thanks for the great link to revisit the past, fonz...


it's a MUST read for all ZHers who are new to it, a 6-page article covering the early years of this blog ;-) hey, i do believe it's older than the most readership here


fonz, for an enlarged prostate u need to see an urologist (a friend of mine is in that profession).

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 21:52 | 4604587 Latina Lover
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I'll bet the Mulatto Messiah loves being in the center of the bukake circle...

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 02:16 | 4604982 Freddie
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What a joke.  We are being played.  Putin should have hired someone good like Ray Dalio or James Chanos or Kyle Bass but looks like he may be owned by Goldman too.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 03:16 | 4605019 UselessEater
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SHIT! Fonz, I sent this article to my mum, she picked up on your comment and likes it with no idea of what some of your terminology means....Buggered if I'm explaining it and by God I hope she doesn't repeat it in her decent innocence.


Fri, 03/28/2014 - 21:40 | 4604550 kaiserhoff
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For High Treason, or being married to a skank?

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 22:06 | 4604609 Normalcy Bias
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If we didn't know better, one would swear that our illustrious President's actions are exactly what our enemies would have us do...

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 12:10 | 4605424 Wahooo
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We'll thank goodness the Russians and Chinese are finally going to break America as a world economic "power". At least we'll then have to stop spending so much fiat debt to finance war and the FSA. Too bad we don't do anything until we have to.

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 22:32 | 4604673 walküre
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He's put in power to be an abject failure and the President held responsible for the downfall of America. That will be his legacy and he is either too arrogant to see it or he's pushing for it on purpose. Hard to say because he's such a narcissist!

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 23:01 | 4604740 Vampyroteuthis ...
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he's such a narcissist!

That could be said about libtards in general.


Sat, 03/29/2014 - 20:51 | 4606718 MeelionDollerBogus
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Libtards = contards.

Sheeple are sheeple no matter if you spray-paint them blue or red. You might get a choice later in what colour wool you use but when the mint sauce is prepared the mutton tastes the same to the Kings. Kings & serfs, that's the truth.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 00:43 | 4604911 Ifigenia
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no pity for him, he must be inteligent enough to know what those Masters of universe want of him, a guy out of the system and with no power bases. But he pick the job, didnt he, and fuck everything, not even putting a break on money printing, the last straw that fuck every sheep in town to provide the last big feast for the 1%, before game over. Here in Europe at least there is some sense not to print euro to the kindom come.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 08:31 | 4605139 matrix2012
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c'mon dudes, admittedly it's a very well-paid job with tons of fringe benefits...knowing the Mulatto narcissist has access to private golf course all the time in every place, flying in and out aboard own A-One... cant blame him to accept that assignment from his masters due to his cloaking color and teleprompting capability, an alternative look high in demand after all the messes created by the Texan oil dumb cowboy... indeed this guy is pretty "fortunate" to fit the favored profile regardless his murky background.  But  he has the alphabet pedigree! His mom was an NOC agent; his step-father involved in the agency's much bloody plot to topple the host country's founding father and highly popular president then, even his grandma worked for the agency's financial interests in Hawaii. So luck may not be the right word here. (if one ever imagines to be the grandmasters who laid out the decade-long grand chessboard, putting one grand lackey after another in positions...)

But can we really blame it to all the sheeples who support him to the 2nd election? is there really any choice? Is Romney da man??

Supposed there's any "good" candidate that can pass through the very tightly knitted filtration, will such candidate ever win against the Diebold electronic voting machines? Let say if all fail to block the unwanted one, forced termination still avails to various ways as happened in the past... you see, the cabals have countless ways

Sorry dudes, i just witness the Cabal Banksters are having in full control of the cowboy nation, one hundred years funded with the endless confetti papers are more than enough to place each lackey in each position covering all the playing fields and every layer of importance there...with redundancies! Red Team vs. Blue Team, the choice is yours... the plans, objectives and executions are all the Masters' ones.... the people are fully owned and living inside the matrix world.

Good luck, for a remedy a mass wake-up is needed... yet they also get ready with dhsfematsa/nsafbicia/xe/... plenty of luck is needed...or alternatively the locusts may just dump their victims when they finish sucking everything as such their costs outweigh their uses...

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 01:18 | 4604944 JuliaS
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Impeachment is meaningless. Bush was gone and what did we get in return? Another banker puppet. If we didn't get Bush, who would we have instead? A global warming carbon credit nutcase Gore or warmongering horse-face deserter Kerry. If we didn't have Obama, we'd have Clinton McMoron, or Russia-watching Alaskan mom.

Look at every past candidate (with exceptions of RP). Think the future lineup will be any different? And who cares anyway. The president holds no actual power. The bankers are pulling all the strings and the Fed chairman affects your daily life more than all the past presidents combined...

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 06:45 | 4605115 new game
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Comment of the century-100 year history thing: their/the policy of zirp and resulting inflation from currency expansion is costing me 100/week unless I put my life labor/savings at risk(in their venues of vulturism). everyone else on the list except RP are the supporting cast to keep this debt/ponzi scheme alive and kicking our ass. what i do is refuse to vote. vote with my actions and have a level of ignorance that allows my anger to not consume my enjoyment of life...all else is futile, unless i want to get locked up for criminal behavior. the best laid plans have a way of getting fucked up, meaning i would get caught. and furthermore, it is not my place in life to save the fucking world from 90+/100 i logged in just to up vote and comment-loggin back out - bye, and have a great weekend being partially ignorant!

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 20:48 | 4606710 MeelionDollerBogus
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Excellent! OGolfer will be removed, Biden will take his place & Biden will then advance the Honorable Jon Corzine as the new VP!

Wonderous plan.

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 21:35 | 4604534 kaiserhoff
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"Western Leaders" are obsessed with their pensions.

Find me a kleptocrat who gives a tinker's damn about anything else.

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 21:37 | 4604540 Reaper
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Are other nations stupid? What Obama or the US can do to Russia, they can do to you.

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 21:37 | 4604541 kaiserhoff
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China + Russia = Two drunks leaning on each other for support.

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 21:40 | 4604555 fonzannoon
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China + Blackstone + Russia + Goldman + U.S - 90% of the global population  = big picture. 

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 21:45 | 4604572 kaiserhoff
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I hope you're wrong Fonz, but that's not the way I'm betting.

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 21:52 | 4604585 fonzannoon
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I'm not wrong my man. Listen to the people on here who produce stuff for a living (my aoplogies if you do). I specialize in pushing a piece of paper from one side of the desk to the other. I can only hope after the reset there is a need for fart jokes. My point is Goldman knows the same thing LOP and Seek know. Too many mouths to feed, There needs to be a lot less of us. They are making their plans. We should be making ours. 

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 22:13 | 4604620 kito
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Fonz- shale gas, robotics and yellen will save us. You worry too much.

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 22:19 | 4604638 fonzannoon
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I'm scared of eel. 

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 22:32 | 4604672 kito
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You think eel will play a part in the plan to reduce world population?

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 22:35 | 4604687 fonzannoon
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Yes. It has to, Because nobody orders it when ordering sushi. so any other motive including eel is sinister.

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 22:33 | 4604677 walküre
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You forgot the Chevy Cruze!!!! oh, wait... nvmd

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 08:10 | 4605155 onthesquare
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now they are planning the crime of the century

well what will it be?

who are these men of lust, greed and glory?

rip of the masks and lets see


ps watch out for low flying 777s

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 20:46 | 4606706 MeelionDollerBogus
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Not quite correct. Those mouths need only do more work for the slave-masters with each meal & die before they get so old they can't work yet still need feeding. Increase population, increase hardship of work, decrease life-span.

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 10:34 | 4607579 WhyWait
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Solving their problems by getting rid of "useless eaters" won't work any better than solving them by replacing McDonalds workers with computers.  The decrease in unemployment will be temporary, very temporary, because once again they solve a short term problem by further hollowing out their market.  That would be supplementing a figurative  economic death spiral with a literal one!

Which brings us back around to the core problem, the system itself.

If you love your life as part of this system, you will want to save it.

Which will require a hard reset. 

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 21:53 | 4604589 Yen Cross
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  Kaiserhoff, we've apexed demand/  


Fri, 03/28/2014 - 21:53 | 4604588 Seasmoke
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So what's that 700 million. I plan on my family being in that group.

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 22:14 | 4604626 MontgomeryScott
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Your population reduction goal number is a bit optimistic, fonz. looks more like 93%, at current population levels.

Perhaps: Goldman + Blackstone + Rothcshild + Bank of England - U.S. - Russia - China - 93% of the population...

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 23:07 | 4604750 UselessEater
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My mistresses husband loves to read these stones when vacationing whilst I lift my leg to them and pee:

"In 1988, Britain’s Prince Philip expressed the wish that, should he be reincarnated, he would want to be “a deadly virus” that would reduce world population."

another fun read:

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 10:41 | 4605300 matrix2012
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and this one as well, has vid n pdf

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 09:56 | 4605234 matrix2012
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Scott, thanks for the Georgia Guidestones link.


I just did a little search, besides some clear pics, i got this cool link with plenty of well compiled info.


"The Georgia Guidestones are a huge stonehenge-like arrangement of granite slabs erected in the early 1980s for mysterious reasons; the persons who commissioned the stones are unknown. Carved into their sides are statements in several languages to be used, presumably, as societal directives in the context of some sort of post-apocalyptic future-a reboot disk for human civilization."


The First guideline of the Ten Commandment of Georgia Guidestones:

>>> Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature. <<<

Carved in Stone: “Maintain Humanity Under 500,000,000... |  Dregs of the Future


Sat, 03/29/2014 - 10:14 | 4605255 matrix2012
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This American version of stonehenge just reminds me about the openly displayed bizarre and dreadful paintings and statue in the Denver International Airport...


"Twenty years and beyond not a single American could have comprehended that in the middle of the heartland where the Great Plains meet the Rocky Mountains, the Pale Horse of Death awaits your arrival. Even today, a large majority of Americans refuse to allow their thinking abilities to ascertain, and question, why a diabolical looking horse with vines and red glowing eyes greets all visitors at The Denver International Airport?"


The DENVER INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT (DIA), THE USA'S LARGEST AIRPORT had caught my attention in the past because it's absolutely diabolical and dreadful... they're so confident, quite obvious it's an open display!!!


Denver International Airport (DIA) is the home to a large DUMB (Deep Underground Military Base).


DIA Denver New World Airport - Located Behind the Highest Mountains in the Lower USA

* there's also article on Georgia Guidestones at


Sinister Sites - The Denver International Airport


Something is rotten in the Denver airport (13 Photos) « Black Bag Conspiracy


Denver Airport |


Denver International Airport | New World Order | The Pale Horse Revelation


Denver Airport Conspiracy Theory: A Documentary (part 1)


Denver Airport Conspiracy Theory: A Documentary (part 2)


Secret Alex Christopher photos from beneath Denver International Airport | The DIA Conspiracy Files


"And so close to Aurora, too"


"There is a similar theme of these at the BAC BUILDING in CHARLOTTE. I knew the artist by acquaintance when I was working there back in 91. Evil stuff, man."

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 20:44 | 4606704 MeelionDollerBogus
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Biggest hoax possible next to pretending there's no global warming.

The actual agenda is to increase the population and decrease the life-span of them, the slaves, so the rich are served by vast, unending supplies of slaves.

Population reduction = no more slaves = opposite of the intended goal.

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 21:48 | 4604577 Anusocracy
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China + Russia + US = Two drunks leaning on each other for support and one malicious prostitute trying to figure out how to screw them over.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 08:13 | 4605156 onthesquare
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Sat, 03/29/2014 - 20:43 | 4606701 MeelionDollerBogus
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Which one's the whore?

OK, let's imagine Israel is the pimp.

Think we got it figured out yet?

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 21:40 | 4604557 A Lunatic
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They mention $10 billion like it's supposed to mean something.........

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 21:46 | 4604574 ShortTheUS
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In Soviet Russia, evil is the root of all money.

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 21:55 | 4604593 Boomberg
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In Soviet USA, the love of money is the root of all evil. There is no Soviet Russia.

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 22:35 | 4604685 walküre
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oh yes there is. Putin is looking to restore the former glory of Soviet Russia!

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 21:57 | 4604598 Azwethinkweiz
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This whole article reeked of that putrid scent of "bankers"

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 23:39 | 4604820 One And Only
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This has been bothering me for a your avatar supposed to be David Hasselhoff?

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 23:49 | 4604839 Azwethinkweiz
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I am the David Hasselhoff, numnutz! Let it now be a bother no more. Dance!

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 08:55 | 4605188 A82EBA
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Knight Rider?

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 22:04 | 4604607 Yen Cross
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 I'm loving these markets! I want volatilaty in q2.   I want "price discovery"!

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 22:28 | 4604664 Ralph Spoilsport
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One of the major learnings from ZH is that "price discovery" is dead.

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 22:39 | 4604697 bobert
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Hey Sport:

I've been in the markets a long time.

You are correct about price discovery being a thing of the past.

So what to do?

As far as I'm concerned it comes down to this: Game the gamer's.

I hope that makes sense.

The very best to you!

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 22:07 | 4604610 Billy Shears
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Corrupt and "CORRUPTERER"!

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 22:16 | 4604633 MontgomeryScott
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The West's banks and the East's banks are the SAME banks, it seems. When you think about it, the bankoporacy considers themselves the life-giving flow of fiat, and the East and the West are ways to refer to THEIR banks...


Fri, 03/28/2014 - 23:02 | 4604743 Luckhasit
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You know what i find ironic.  That no matter how much Goldman and their ilk srew people over, they still always have "their" people handling the finances of the major powers, including corporations.

You think that some folks on the boards of directors would make sure the company keeps a wide berth of the tentacles of Cthulhu.  That if this is all about business, which it seems to be.

But it's not business.  This shit is personal.


Fri, 03/28/2014 - 23:07 | 4604751 IridiumRebel
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I'd say that this whole thing is just for show and we are the dipshits that paid for the tickets to watch as we ooh and ahh while they grift our money. It's a big fucking club and you and I ain't in it.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 02:39 | 4604999 Kirk2NCC1701
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Look, IR, I'm as much of a fan of Carlin as anyone, but that doesn't mean we just repeat his lines w/o thinking about it.

In this instance, it's more accurate to say: "It's a SMALL club, and you ain't in it."

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 04:21 | 4605052 Luckhasit
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Sat, 03/29/2014 - 09:04 | 4605195 IridiumRebel
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Semantics, but I believe you are right. it is a small club.....a really really really small club with ultra rich people who see the world as their own and we are the pawns for the taking. 

“If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. No use being a damn fool about it.” WC Fields

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 20:41 | 4606693 MeelionDollerBogus
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membership is limited but the actual properties of the club & all its riches are vast.

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 23:17 | 4604783 post turtle saver
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more lies and bullshit... quit using that stock photo, it's Putin and Vietnam in that pic, not China... you stupid fucks

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 23:26 | 4604800 mjazzguitar
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The whole Michelle trip to China was in response to Russia and the Ukraine.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 00:18 | 4604880 lakecity55
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That's the most lame thing I ever heard of.

Wookies do not speak Chinese.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 00:54 | 4604927 Ifigenia
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then, perhaps an insurance for commie leader in his tour?

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 23:48 | 4604829 williambanzai7
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What a bunch of Euro morons. Good luck with that idea Boratzo...

They can start their powerpoint presentation by explaining to the Chinese how Taiwan is different from the Crimea.

Essentially, the problem that is brought into focus is geopolitical strategy is indifferent to ideology. All the ideological freedom frie dog no longer hunts. And neither does the diplomatic double speak.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 00:58 | 4604933 Ifigenia
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but the diplomats still have to live and shit something out to justify to the sheeps, meanwhile the frogs and fraus are lining up for new business. 

Fri, 03/28/2014 - 23:47 | 4604833 joego1
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Relax and it won't hurt so much.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 05:12 | 4605077 francechinaman
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Not that it may matter to anyone but the person Putin is hugging in the picture has nothing to do with China, being Truong Tan Sang alias Vietnams president.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 08:39 | 4605175 d edwards
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All those Asians look alike anyway. :-D


Just kidding you guys.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 10:16 | 4605258 AdvancingTime
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In all humor exist a little truth.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 09:49 | 4605084 NuYawkFrankie
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re West Desperate To Break Russia-China Axis

Neocon USSA provocation & criminality created the Russia/China Axis.


Sat, 03/29/2014 - 06:23 | 4605103 viator
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"China is dynamic, and its dynamism is transforming the “Silk Road” countries that lie across Russia’s southern border. China is building high-speed rail and high-speed internet south to Rangoon and eastward to Istanbul, intent on transforming its neighbors into an export market for high-value-added manufacturing and high-tech products. It’s one of the most remarkable ventures in world economic history, and the most underreported story of the year. My conservative friends have been predicting China’s economic demise every year for the past dozen, and have been wrong each time. They notice the elephant dung, but ignore the elephant.

China’s appetite for Siberian resources, including hydrocarbons and perhaps including water, is limitless. The Russians and Chinese have every reason to suspect each other. But if they put their differences aside, the economic synergies would be extensive. What should worry the West is the prospective synergies in military technology as well. Russia is rolling out the S500 air defense system. We shuddered at the prospect that Russia might provide its 20-year-old S300 system to Damascus or Tehran; we really don’t know how much better the new iteration is, but it might be a great deal better. Chinese rocketry already is good enough to sink any American ship within several hundred miles of its coastline. We really don’t want them to get together.

That’s precisely what may happen if the West succeeds in “isolating” Russia"

The ever precient "Spengler"

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 07:15 | 4605132 viator
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Ever heard of the Russian Orthodox revival?

The neo Sino-Russian partnership and the Slavic/Orthodox revival. We may be in for some surprises.


Sat, 03/29/2014 - 10:21 | 4605265 AdvancingTime
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Putin and China have a lot to gain by strong ties. This unholy alliance between Russia and China may create major problems for America going forward, The article below tells where Putin was and what he was doing in mid 2012.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 20:29 | 4606655 MeelionDollerBogus
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"that was evidenced by their most recent investment in Russia's $10bn state-backed Direct Investment Fund (which just happens to be run by a former Goldman Sachs banker. It seems "money talks" once again and China will likely continue to play the middle ground."

Tribe doesn't sanction its own. I think that may just about the the most important item given.

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