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Paul Craig Roberts: Pushing Toward The Final War

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Authored by Paul Craig Roberts via his blog,

Does Obama realize that he is leading the US and its puppet states to war with Russia and China, or is Obama being manipulated into this disaster by his neoconservative speech writers and government officials? World War 1 (and World War 2) was the result of the ambitions and mistakes of a very small number of people. Only one head of state was actually involved–the President of France.

In The genesis Of The World War, Harry Elmer Barnes shows that World War 1 was the product of 4 or 5 people. Three stand out: Raymond Poincare`, President of France, Sergei Sazonov, Russian Foreign Minister, and Alexander Izvolski, Russian Ambassador to France. Poincare` wanted Alsace-Lorraine from Germany, and the Russians wanted Istanbul and the Bosphorus Strait, which connects the Black Sea to the Mediterranean. They realized that their ambitions required a general European war and worked to produce the desired war.

A Franco-Russian Alliance was formed. This alliance became the vehicle for orchestrating the war. The British government, thanks to the incompetence, stupidity, or whatever of its Foreign Minister, Sir Edward Grey, was pulled into the Franco-Russian Alliance. The war was started by Russia’s mobilization. The German Kaiser, Wilhelm II, was blamed for the war despite the fact that he did everything possible to avoid it.

Barnes’ book was published in 1926. His reward for confronting the corrupt court historians with the truth was to be accused of being paid by Germany to write his history. Eighty-six years later historian Christopher Clark in his book, The Sleepwalkers, comes to essentially the same conclusion as Barnes.

In the history I was taught the war was blamed on Germany for challenging British naval supremacy by building too many battleships. The court historians who gave us this tale helped to set up World War 2.

We are again on the road to World War. One hundred years ago the creation of a world war by a few had to be done under the cover of deception. Germany had to be caught off guard. The British had to be manipulated and, of course, people in all the countries involved had to be propagandized and brainwashed.

Today the drive to war is blatantly obvious. The lies are obvious, and the entire West is participating, both media and governments.

The American puppet, Canadian prime minister Stephen Harper, openly lied on Canadian TV that Russian President Putin had invaded Crimea, threatened Ukraine, and was restarting the Cold War. The host of the TV program sat and nodded his head in agreement with these bald-faced lies. http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Stephen+Harper+accuses+Vladimir+Putin+being+stuck+back+USSR/9663692/story.html

The script that Washington handed to its Canadian puppet has been handed to all of Washington’s puppets, and everywhere in the West the message is the same. “Putin invaded and annexed Crimea, Putin is determined to rebuild the Soviet Empire, Putin must be stopped.”

I hear from many Canadians who are outraged that their elected government represents Washington and not Canadians, but as bad as Harper is, Obama and Fox “News” are worse.

On March 26 I managed to catch a bit of Fox “news.” Murdoch’s propaganda organ was reporting that Putin was restoring the Soviet era practice of exercise. Fox “news” made this report into a threatening and dangerous gesture toward the West. Fox produced an “expert,” whose name I caught as Eric Steckelbeck or something like that. The “expert” declared that Putin was creating “the Hitler youth,” with a view toward rebuilding the Soviet empire.

The extraordinary transparent lie that Russia sent an army into Ukraine and annexed Crimea is now accepted as fact everywhere in the West, even among critics of US policy toward Russia.

Obama, whose government overthrew the democratically elected government in Ukraine and appointed a stooge government that has threatened the Russian provinces of Ukraine, falsely accuses Putin of “invading and annexing” Crimea.

Obama, or his handlers and programers, are relying on the total historical ignorance of Western peoples. The ignorance and gullibility of Western peoples allows the American neoconservatives to fashion “news” that controls their minds.

Obama recently declared that Washington’s destruction of Iraq–up to one million killed, four million displaced, infrastructure in ruins, sectarian violence exploding, a country in total ruins–is nowhere near as bad as Russia’s acceptance of Crimean self-determination. US Secretary of State John Kerry actually ordered Putin to prevent the referendum and stop Crimeans from exercising self-determination.

Obama’s speech on March 26 at the Palace of Fine Arts in Brussels is surreal. It is beyond hypocrisy. Obama says that Western ideals are challenged by self-determination in Crimea. Russia, Obama says, must be punished by the West for permitting Crimeans to exercise self-determination. The return of a Russian province on its own volition to its mother country where it existed for 200 years is presented by Obama as a dictatorial, anti-democratic act of tyranny. http://on.rt.com/sbzj4o

Here was Obama, whose government has just overthrown the elected, democratic government of Ukraine and substituted stooges chosen by Washington in the place of the elected government, speaking of the hallowed ideal that “people in nations can make their own decisions about their future.” That is exactly what Crimea did, and that is exactly what the US coup in Kiev contravened. In the twisted mind of Obama, self-determination consists of governments imposed by Washington.

Here was Obama, who has shredded the US Constitution, speaking of “individual rights and rule of law.” Where is this rule of law? It is certainly not in Kiev where an elected government was overthrown with force. It is certainly not in the United States where the executive branch has spent the entirety of the new 21st century establishing government above the law. Habeas corpus, due process, the right to open trials and determination of guilt by independent jurors prior to imprisonment and execution, the right to privacy have all been overturned by the Bush/Obama regimes. Torture is against US and international law; yet Washington set up torture prisons all over the globe.

How is it possible that the representative of the war criminal US government can stand before an European audience and speak of “rule of law,” “individual rights,” “human dignity,” “self-determination,” “freedom,” without the audience breaking out in laughter?

Washington is the government that invaded and destroyed Afghanistan and Iraq on the basis of lies. Washington is the government that financed and organized the overthrow of the Libyan and Honduran governments and that is currently attempting to do the same thing to Syria and Venezuela. Washington is the government that attacks with drones and bombs populations in the sovereign countries of Pakistan and Yemen. Washington is the government that has troops all over Africa. Washington is the government that has surrounded Russia, China, and Iran with military bases. It is this warmongering collection of Washington war criminals that now asserts that it is standing up for international ideals against Russia.

No one applauded Obama’s nonsensical speech. But for Europe to accept such blatant lies from a liar without protest empowers the momentum toward war that Washington is pushing.

Obama demands more NATO troops to be stationed in Eastern Europe to “contain Russia.” http://news.antiwar.com/2014/03/26/obama-wants-more-nato-troops-in-eastern-europe/ Obama said that a buildup of military forces on Russia’s borders would reassure Poland and the Baltic states that, as NATO members, they will be protected from Russian aggression. This nonsense is voiced by Obama despite the fact that no one expects Russia to invade Poland or the Baltic countries.

Obama doesn’t say what effect the US/NATO military buildup and numerous war games on Russia’s border will have on Russia. Will the Russian government conclude that Russia is about to be attacked and strike first? The reckless carelessness of Obama is the way wars start.

Declaring that “freedom isn’t free,” Obama is putting pressure on Western Europe to pony up more money for a military buildup to confront Russia. http://news.antiwar.com/2014/03/26/us-presses-eu-nations-to-hike-military-spending-to-confront-russia/

The position of the government in Washington and its puppet states (Eastern and Western Europe, Great Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Georgia, Japan) and other allies purchased with bagfuls of money is that Washington’s violation of international law by torturing people, by invading sovereign countries on totally false pretenses, by routinely overthrowing democratically elected governments that do not toe the Washington line is nothing but the “indispensable and exceptional country” bringing “freedom and democracy to the world.” But Russia’s acceptance of the self-determination of Crimean people to return to their home country is “a violation of international law.”

Just what international law has Washington and its puppets not violated?

Obama, whose government in the past few years has bullied Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Lebanon, Iran, Honduras, Ecuador, Bolivia, and Venezuela and is now trying to bully Russia, actually declared that “bigger nations can not simply bully smaller ones.” What does Obama and his speech writers think Washington has been doing for the entirety of the 21st century?

Who can possibly believe that Obama, whose government is responsible for the deaths of people every day in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen, Libya, and Syria, cares a whit about democracy in Ukraine. Obama overthrew the Ukrainian government in order to be able to stuff the country into NATO, throw Russia out of its Black Sea naval base, and put US missile bases in Ukraine on Russia’s border. Obama is angry that his plan didn’t pan out as intended, and he is taking his anger and frustration out on Russia.

As the delusion takes hold in Washington that the US represents idealism standing firmly against Russian aggression, delusion enabled by the presstitute media, the UN General Assembly vote, and Washington’s string of puppet states, self-righteousness rises in Washington’s breast.

With rising self-righteousness will come more demands for punishing Russia, more demonization of Russia and Putin, more lies echoed by the presstitutes and puppets. Ukrainian violence against Russian residents is likely to intensify with the anti-Russian propaganda. Putin could be forced to send in Russian troops to defend Russians.

Why are people so blind that they do not see Obama driving the world to its final war?

Just as Obama dresses up his aggression toward Russia as idealism resisting selfish territorial ambitions, the English, French, and Americans presented their World War 1 “victory” as the triumph of idealism over German and Austrian imperialism and territorial ambitions. But at the Versailles Conference the Bolsheviks (the Tsar’s government failed to gain the Straits and instead lost the country to Lenin) “revealed the existence of the notorious Secret Treaties embodying as sordid a program of territorial pilfering as can be found in the history of diplomacy. It appears that the chief actual motives of the Entente in the World War were the seizure of Constantinople and the Straits for Russia; not only the return of Alsace-Lorraine to France, but the securing of the west bank of the Rhine, which would have involved the seizure of territory historically far longer connected with Germany than Alsace-Lorraine had ever been with France; the rewarding of Italian entry into the War by extensive territory grabbed away from Austria and the Jugo-Slavs; and the sequestering of the German imperial possessions, the acquisition of the German merchant marine and the destruction of the German navy in the interest of increasing the strength of the British Empire” (Barnes, pp. 691-692). The American share of the loot was seized German and Austrian investments in the US.

The secret British, Russian, and French aims of the war were hidden from the public, which was whipped up with fabricated propaganda to support a war whose outcomes were far different from the intentions of those who caused the war. People seem unable to learn from history. We are now witnessing the world again being led down the garden path by lies and propaganda, this time in behalf of American world hegemony.

 

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Sun, 03/30/2014 - 14:53 | 4608117 Tall Tom
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You are not responsible for anybody else's behavior. If people want to "junk" somebody else's post then they will. (I did not junk you nor DCRB. I enjoyed your dialouge as we are people after all.)

 

So to the junkers...Well they can go autofellate (giving one's self a Blow Job) as they lack any spine...

 

So the junkers can junk this. It just demonstrates that they are cocksuckers.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 16:21 | 4605961 Gringo Viejo
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Thank God for the internet and the free flow and exchange of ideas with which to counter government controlled propaganda.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 16:22 | 4605965 Conax
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There is no hardened, accepted explanation for the start of WW I, not that a history professor could give.  I have come to my own conclusion, that it was kicked off to destroy and remove the old monarchies of Europe, so that 'democracy' could eventually achieve a single, unified authority over the continent.

All those kings and dukes made things unmanageable.

So the one-world plotters had a stooge shoot the Austrian Archduke (and his wife) and also pressured the traitor Woody Wilson to commit American forces to a war which had nothing whatsoever to do with the American interests.

WWII naturally followed the ridiculous sanctions and reparations slapped on the German people under the Versailles Treaty, which blamed it all on them alone.

IOW, the usual suspects caused these two wars, at least.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:10 | 4606070 TBT or not TBT
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Also, automation, particularly in agriculture, had rendered traditional large families way too large. Survival of babies to adulthood had jumped due to discoveries about sanitation primarily. Result: Too many young men with not enough to do. Industrial trench warfare solved that surplus in its particular way.

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 06:21 | 4607341 effendi
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Have to disagree with you. You have linked a result of the war tactics (static trench warfare) with the idea that war is an outlet to use up excess young men. Nobody prior to the war expected the war to last as long as it did (they would be home by Christmas). The British didn't even build their trenches to the same standards as the Germans as they were not expecting to need them for a long period.

Also do you think killing off your best men (all fit and healthy, no 4F rejects) is a smart way to reduce your population? Britain was permanently damaged as aresult of losing all its best men. The British lost so many of its young officers in WW1 that by 1939 they had insufficient commanding officers to choose from. To give but one example of how many of the elite had been lost in WW1, Eton (the top English school) has an honour roll of 2,000 former students who died in WW1.

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 19:45 | 4608835 TBT or not TBT
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Uparrowed you. Thanks. There were, however, lots of extra men and women around at the time. The generals acted accordingly on both sides, wave by wave, repeating the same tactics long after the result had been demonstrated: Trench warfare and massive slaughter.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:14 | 4606082 HL Shancken
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Your "own conclusion" sounds like the conclusion of a top-notch detective. Great work, Clouseau.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:54 | 4606197 Volkodav
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WW1 was by UK monie power against Germany's growing production and economic....

could not allow that...

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:02 | 4606212 Rafferty
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Definitely a part of it.  I think Conax has nailed itpretty well.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 21:53 | 4606847 Lost Word
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The Jews cannot have all those European Kings in competition against the future Jewish World King.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 16:29 | 4605979 A Lunatic
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You had me up to 'Does Obama realize'. The POTUS is a fucking figurehead for the Banking Cartel; otherwise he would have already been dispatched to Hell by a lone gunman on a grassy knoll. Blame lies within the hearts and minds of tens of millions of apathetic, fat, ignorant fucking blobs who vote for a living and lack the intestinal fortitude, self control and conscience to put a stop to this madness. Why in the Hell does everyone act like they have no fucking choice but to blindly follow the herd.....!?!?!?!

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:06 | 4606060 HL Shancken
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Yes, you are a lunatic. A really obonoxious one, too.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 16:31 | 4605983 tony wilson
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what a crock of shit conax.

democracy : )

you are either a cunt or a low level fucking sub gchq tool.

paid by the hour 4 pounds sterling.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 16:33 | 4605991 Conax
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That's why I wrote 'democracy'. As in, making the world safe for..

 

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 16:31 | 4605986 Cupid Stunt
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Is this all priced in ?....................Just askin

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 16:33 | 4605990 ebworthen
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"Obama’s speech on March 26 at the Palace of Fine Arts in Brussels is surreal."

Key word there being "Brussels"; 1/2 of his handlers, the others being on Wall Street.

"Presidential cufflinks, bitchez!" says Jamie Dimon.

Your kids to the front first please.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 16:33 | 4605992 nah
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who can blame them bitchez

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 16:34 | 4605995 Ignorance is bliss
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History is open to perception of events that are obscured and warped by TPTB. We can however see the current situation and discern probabilities of potential outcomes. The U.S. Is desperately attempting to intimidate the rest of the world and maintain its position of strength on the global stage. The internet has made manipulation of the masses infinitely harder. How many Americans trust the government? How many believe TPTB are capable of a false flag? I think whomever attempts to create the next false flag better do a great job or they could find themselves on the wrong end of a rope. This isn't 2001 anymore.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 16:50 | 4606027 JR
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How many Americans trust the government?

Aussie V
writes on ZH this weekend from Australia:

"I spent 6 weeks in the US last year and had a great time. However, one thing surprised this boy from Oz. That was I met a lot of people, maybe 35% of the total I met there who, were convinced that the US was heading towards a civil war. For me, being an Aussie, that was amazing because, we're too busy surfing at the beach to ever think about things like that. The worse thing we do is 'go bush' and live in isolation which, is not such a bad option with the right gear!

"However, the people I was talking to in the US were convinced that a civil war was coming and, they were from very different walks of life. There seems to be a fermenting undercurrent of turmoil and anger there just simmering away."

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:02 | 4606054 Savyindallas
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For the last decade Americans have been buying a staggering amount of guns and ammo, just as Homeland security has been buying a staggering amount of guns and ammo, domestic drones and tanks, as well as setting up a police State and Fema camps. And in either case, I don't think it's because of the fear we may be invaded by Mexico or Canada.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:19 | 4606084 Radical Marijuana
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Yeah, JR, several other previous comments on ZH have pointed out the same sense of public opinions (although some of them mentioned the difference in attitude between the men vs. the women.) As far as I can tell, the established systems are based upon the runaway triumphs of frauds, which are attempting the apparently impossible goal of consolidating those triumphant frauds forever.

As above, so below, & as within, so without: the foreign affairs and the domestic affairs match each other. Inside the USA there is already an irreconcilable social polarization, based on the degree of almost total triumph of systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, which are psychotically breaking down because that violence can never make those lies become true, but only drive society to become overall more insane. All over the rest of world, the internal insanities of the USA are being projected to spiral around and around, back to the domestic insanities.

The USA appears like a volcano building up pressure, due to being based upon insane legalized lies, backed by insane legalized violence, constantly being able to keep the pressure building, largely because the consequences of that finally erupting would be analogous to the Yellowstone Park area manifesting a super-eruption! Paradoxically, it is precisely the degree of the ability to suppress the resistance, by being able to back up bigger lies, with more violence, that drives the final psychotic breakdowns, both in domestic and foreign affairs.

The international banksters that took control of the government of the USA more and more for over a Century have driven through social polarization and destruction of the natural world on a scale like nothing previously known in human history. The USA has constantly more and more energy being pumped into its established systems of government enforced frauds. Therefore, although I can see nothing good coming from a second American Civil War, I can not see anything which could possibly prevent that from happening, other than something beating it to the punch that was even worse!

There is a horrible perverse fascination with waiting and watching as these psychotic social pressures continue to build and build, while nothing else can be done, because the established systems continue to care about nothing other than being able to back up their legalized lies, with more legalized violence, in ways which less and less are concerned with even pretending that those are "legal."

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:03 | 4606215 N57Mike
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..... "as above so below", Edgar Casey

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 19:32 | 4606501 Radical Marijuana
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Quite so, N57Mike, as well as far, far back in time. For instance, I associate that saying with Hermes Trismegistus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermes_Trismegistus

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 22:00 | 4606860 Lost Word
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One of the favorites of the New Age Occultists,

and their fellow travellers,

Freemasons, Illuminati, etcetera,

New World Order.

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 13:51 | 4607979 dizzyfingers
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Radical Marijuana

Makes perfect sense in a really terrible, perverse way.  

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 23:09 | 4609420 Radical Marijuana
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Hah, dizzyfingers, people have been saying what you wrote about my political speeches since back in the 1970s, i.e., many presumed that I would say things which were nonsense, but instead they ended up concluding that I was "horribly sane," or making "perfect sense in a really terrible, perverse way!"

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 16:59 | 4606043 HL Shancken
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Only an idiot thinks that the internet deters manipulation. In this case an idiot who has been manipulated to hate his own country and believe only the worst that is told about it. An idiot who beleives in some illuminati conspiracy while Russia, having orchestrated 9-11, makes ready to move in for the kill.

 

You believe whatever Russia wants you to, though.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:07 | 4606062 JR
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There are conspiracy theories bouncing around all over; this is a new one, that Russia did 9-11.

I know that the neocons and the Lefties and the US media and a full range of banker puppets are urging us to hate everything Russian, maybe even Russian salad dressing, to stir our ire, but how many perpetrators of 9-11 can we get away with?

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:15 | 4606086 Savyindallas
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The Russians know who did 911. I'm surprised they haven't made it public. Of course Ghadaffi was vocal about 911 being an inside job -even spoke about it at the UN. and look what happened to him.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:23 | 4606280 TBT or not TBT
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MH370 was wormholed back through time inside WTC 7, collapsing it, by Farsi speaking ethnically Russian socially liberal but warmongering neocon OWS infiltrators.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:17 | 4606097 Savyindallas
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PCR also knows who did 911. he speaks about it freely   -and it wasn't the Russians or 19 arabs with boxcutters being directed by a dying old CIA asset hiding in a cave in Tora Bora.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:35 | 4606161 HL Shancken
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It's not new and it's not a theory.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:07 | 4606229 McMolotov
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Just so I'm clear, you rail against people for "hating this country," which is code for "not trusting our government," while you believe the very same government we're supposed to trust lied to everyone about the true culprit behind 9-11.

Is that about right?

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 01:51 | 4607212 HL Shancken
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Just so you're clear, I'll correct your assessment of my views.

 

I operate from the worldview that says that the collapse of the Soviet Union was a deception exactly as explained very thoroughly by KGB defector Anatoliy Golitsyn and Czech defector General Jan Sejna. Their information is corroborated by a number of other defectors and has been extensively studied and expanded upon by credible and thorough researchers who have concluded that Golitsyn was correct in his assessment that the collapse was planned long in advance and was carried out as part of a long-range plan designed to defeat the US militarily.

 

As for lashing out against those who demonstrate their hatred for the US, I will continue to do so because this is where I live and it is revolting to know that so many of my fellow citizens hate the country of their birth so much that they cheer its prospective destruction. They do this thinking, apparently, that  they will come out of a nuclear attack unscathed. It is my country, right or wrong. I will defend it.

 

The US Government did lie about 9-11. It is clear to me that the official investigation purposely obscured Russia's role in conceiving the attack as well as  funding and training the Arabs involved. The reason for the cover-up is complicated and tragic, and not easily understood by a population being fed a steady diet of dezinformatsiya.

 

Within six months or so I expect we'll be nuked. There's only one country that could do that to us and get away with it. It's the same country that trained Oswald as an assassin, the same country that faked its own collapse. It's the country with more nukes than the rest of the world combined. It's not a bank. it's not George Soros or the Koch brothers or the Queen of England or Israel or lizard men or Masons. It's Russia.

 

I know what to look for and I know I can get safe in advance. Do you? I hardly think so, given that you've been chasing a false lead like the rest of these clowns for a long time, time you could have spent much more productively. Instead you have wasted it and now you're going to be blindsided. That is, you're going to be blinded and then you're going to be incinerated by a 2,000 degree wind. There will be time in between for reflection on how wrong you were.

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 10:04 | 4607543 Tinky
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Please don't allow any children to smoke what you've been smoking.

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 11:51 | 4607728 MeMongo
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Yea HL you mean like that pesky Russian Larry Silversteen when he said "pull it" ? ;^)

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 00:38 | 4607130 Obama_4_Dictator
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Can we just vote this hl faggot off the island?

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 12:08 | 4607767 MeMongo
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Wow skanken you and TBT are on course to exceed ponestars junks! Well done fellas:-)

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 22:01 | 4606865 Lost Word
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Maybe he meant the Russian Jews in Israel.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:10 | 4606069 Schmuck Raker
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"In this case an idiot who has been manipulated to hate his own country and believe only the worst that is told about it."

You miss your mark. PCR is raging against the US Government, not The USA.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:12 | 4606074 vic and blood
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ROFLMAO!!

You criticize a conspiracy theory to offer a more preposterous conspiracy theory??

Signed: Just another manipulated idiot

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:08 | 4606231 Clycntct
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Wow you just proved it!

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:06 | 4606221 Rafferty
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Dunno.  If they could pull off the 9/11 attacks and not just get away with them but get their enemies take the blame......well now.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:17 | 4606254 litemine
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Exactly.....

The Trust is Gone......The chance to come clean with the photo's that were taken within the first 15 min.  would be a start.....

building #7......when you search what was in it.....

The population of Stupid..........

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 16:40 | 4606001 NoPantsSpongeBob
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Another puppet is Barroso, total hypocrat who claims that Ukrainian neo-nazis are just propaganda and that interim government which was not democratically elected is sufficient enough to sign the EU cooperation agreement because a revolution = a democratically elected government: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26692597

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 16:40 | 4606007 Grouchy Marx
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Neo-cons, what? Gotta be kidding. We have as president a community organizer who hates whites, western civilization, productive citizens,  hell - the whole idea of citizenship - freedom, transparency, the Constitution, and Christianity. He has been doing his level best to destroy this nation, its wealth, and its traditions. He has supported Islam in general, al Qaeda directly, and Iran by default or intention. He has surrounded himself with like-minded Progressives (i.e., academic-theory based Marxists). He has been doing his best to gut the military, its traditions, its strengths, and its budget.

Neo-cons? Whatever you're smoking it can't be legal, not even in Colorado.

Yes, I think we are nearing the brink of war, but it is because of the absolute ignorance of this administration of all things related to history and human psychology. Putin is a tyrant, but he could be contained without extremely high risk of conflict, if we had any smidgeon of wisdom in Washington. We have children in charge of this country, because we have a very sizeable voting block who are children themselves in their thinking.

Did you see the selfie from the state department regarding Ukraine? QED.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 16:57 | 4606039 Savyindallas
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Yes Neocons  -just another dangerous faction of the global elites -just like Obama and his crowd and just like the Bolsheviks were before. Two peas in a pod. Good cop, bad cop routine. Obama stages as the good cop, and the neocons act the bad cop. Actually they are all bad cops. All Fascist and rotten to the core  -all embrace Neocon Michael Ledeen's concept of "Creative Destruction" tearing down and destroying civilization so they can rebuild it from the ashes, in their own image and under their control. Same as Marx, same as Lenin. Don't ever kid yourselves that the Neocons , their allies (including the Obama Progressives) are not on the same team  -and are not controlled by the same insidious, satanic, Luciferian masters.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:26 | 4606128 HL Shancken
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Funny thing is that your entire argument breaks down when it comes to naming these "Luciferian masters" or providing a shred of evidence of your ridiculous claims.

 

Meanwhile the Soviet Red star is back on Russian military planes.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:00 | 4606209 vic and blood
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Yeah, and the Finns had swastikas on their airplanes until quite recently, maybe still do. That red star proves that the Russians are still evil communists, right? Just like the Austrians using a modified M41 bergmutze winter hat until the 90s proves that they are Nazis, and me owning a surplus Austrian winter hat proves that I am a Nazi, correct?

I have trouble telling the tri-colored roundels apart, myself. Even full sized flags, for that matter. Maybe the Russians wanted a distinctive and easily recognizable mark. Perhaps they should have chosen a bear head, like the one on Brown Bear Ammunition. A conspiracy theory is more entertaining to you, I suppose.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 20:42 | 4606688 Grouchy Marx
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Owning a surplus Austrian winter hat proves your taste in fashion is suspect.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 21:12 | 4606762 vic and blood
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Well played, sir!

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 01:20 | 4607179 HL Shancken
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Your reply is sophistry.

ABC News Online reported on May 5, 2007:


Russia's Parliament has voted to restore the communist-era hammer and sickle to the official flag of the Russian Army.

 


Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:14 | 4606222 litemine
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And Harper renamed the Canadian Navy RCN after our constitution came home. After we were lead follow the British Elite to our Death in Many battles. Vimy Ridge , Canadian's first Battle where a Canadian lead the troups . Invented the barrage attack, battle honors Yes.....

But we became a Peacekeeping nation.....Now,....All for naught.....

Shame Harper Shame.

 

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:09 | 4606235 litemine
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And Many Americans want to fly the American Flag Upside Down.....

Something Wicked this way comes.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:09 | 4606236 litemine
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And Many Americans want to fly the American Flag Upside Down.....

Something Wicked this way comes.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 20:49 | 4606712 Grouchy Marx
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Yeah, I did the research, and discovered behind this united team of elites working to destroy the world stands only one man, the puppet-master, that truly evil mastermind: Joe Biden. 

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:53 | 4606195 yt75
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McCain was in Kiev, Nuland is clearly a Neocon, Condee Rice is publishing propaganda in the Washington Post (like the bounty of oil and gas from North America to overflow Putin in Europe).

Clearly the US gvrmt is now just the US government (with the "deep state" or whatever running the thing whatever POTUS reads the speeches)

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:22 | 4606273 mendolover
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All you CT ZHers remember next election that your Chris Dodd wannabe Chris Murphy is up McCain's ass in all of this.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 20:33 | 4606673 Grouchy Marx
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Neither Rice nor McCain are part of this admin. Nuland isn't clearly anything but an opportunistic career bureaucrat. Your point?

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 08:45 | 4607454 yt75
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My point in in the second sentence that apparently you didn't read.

 

By the way, below the "couloured revolutions tour" T Shirt :

http://iiscn.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/orangetour.jpg

Hanging on the wall in McCain's IRI foundation Tbilissi office, after 40:40 in below documentary :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2HzWwjZcpw

(in French but parts in English, don't know if a full English version exist)

 

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:00 | 4606016 Radical Marijuana
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THIS SEEMS TO BE

QUITE OBVIOUS:

Since the fundamental system is FRAUD, and is attempting to consolidate that FRAUD, the longer term trajectory appears to me to be practically 100% insane. The situation today is trillions of times worse than during WW I & II.
Sat, 03/29/2014 - 16:43 | 4606017 I am Jobe
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Harper must be sleeping with Odumba 

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:31 | 4606143 Jack Burton
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Harper is an Israeli. He worships them as our gods and rulers. Fuck Harper!

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:19 | 4606264 jusman
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He is not an Israeli.  He is a Christian fundamentalist Zionist. Not the same thing at all.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism

 

 

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 19:54 | 4606528 Radical Marijuana
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Yeah, jusman, your technical correction is right, but I presumed that Jack Burton knew he was overstating the situation, and that Canadian Prime Minister Harper was not literally a Canadian Israeli dual citizen, but rather practically so, because Harper is a Crazy Christian Zionist, as well as generally a vicious liar about almost everything.

I do not regard it as a coincidence that the Harper government has criminalized cannabis in Canada more than it ever was, because all of these things are interconnected, with the war on drugs being comparable to the war on terror, and pretty well everything else that the politicians who are the banksters' puppets are doing, which is DEBT SLAVERY, BACKED BY WARS BASED ON DECEITS, headed towards severe debt insanity, provoking war insanities.

P.S.

http://youtu.be/k11v8WOVT2U

Dr Paul Craig Roberts 2014 : Ukraine, Neocons & Armageddon

Everything the mainstream mass media has been asserting about U.S. foreign policy has been LIES. However, if you are one of the millions of moron muppets who still insists that the U.S. is killing millions in Asia as part of a war on terror, while watching the American or the Canadian mass media for further instructions, then you would not be watching any alternative news sources anyway ...

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 20:17 | 4606627 Jack Burton
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Yes, you are right. I am just to the point where Christian fundamentalists who vow their unquestioning support to the Zionest world wide project and expect we North Americans to pay for Zion through our taxes makes me consider these folks to be Israelis first and Canadians or Americans last.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 20:43 | 4606700 Gaurden
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I take offence at calling Harper a Canadian.

We all know what he is.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:29 | 4606300 logicalman
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Harper makes scum sucking, lying bags of shit look good.

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 01:16 | 4607169 August
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>>>Harper makes scum sucking, lying bags of shit look good.

How true!  Young Mr. Trudeau is definitely looking better and better....

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:33 | 4606157 DavidPierre
Sat, 03/29/2014 - 16:44 | 4606018 kellycriterion
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The West's appetite for corruption and consumption continues its upward trajectory. It's no longer matched by a desire to produce.

When the US claimed imperial privilege by decoupling from gold and creating the petrodollar, the world was divided into two warring factions with the US carrying a disproportionate share of the load for the western side. The West was doing the heavy lifting in science, technology, industry, trade. The West was still largely balanced between consumption and production.

We can find examples from empires of the past. Empires who provided protection and commercial opportunities for territories and vassal states. Of course they wanted taxes or tribute as compensation. But what happened when they were no longer willing or able to provide services? Or when changing conditions rendered their services obsolete? Did they voluntarily relinquish their position or the money? The usual tendency was to maintain the status quo and demand more.

They don't care about contradictions or lies or change or reality. Neither does the public. They want what they want.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 20:55 | 4606725 boooyaaaah
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When the US claimed imperial privilege by decoupling from gold and creating the petrodollar, --- great observation Kelly criterion

 

I always thought our inflation post ww2. And post Korea. And post Vietnam were actually taxes on the rest of the west to contain communist aggression. 

The European Union is a far cry from the independent nations of GB France Germany

Communism like socialism fails because there is always one more entity that must be brought under economic control. At least that's what their leaders say. For example Kruchev. Mao. And Obama for example.

World conquest and universal health

But now The EU 

Mother Russia

Capitalists China

 

I don't see no good guys no bad guys

So why take sides?

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 16:54 | 4606035 YHC-FTSE
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Anyone who has vested interests in knowing what is going on in the world,  whether from the perspective of investments in commodities,  RE, manufacturing,  agriculture,  or just personal interests in geopolitics - ie those of us who need real data to make decisions - all of us, from whatever background, cannot failed to have noticed the jaw dropping blatant lies being broadcast daily by the msm. The disconnect between what is actually happening in Syria and Ukraine, and the fantasising rhetoric that are getting more shrill to lead us to war are so ridiculous,  I am not sure whether to laugh out loud or get angry. Most days it's a bit of both. 

If you think on a subject long enough you invariably come to similar conclusions and this article by Paul is spot on. 

The day before yesterday we had the sickening sight of a woman, Jen Psaki, from the US state dept prostituting a photo of herself on Twitter to urge the public to be united with a bunch of murdering zionists and neonazis she and her ilk installed in power in Kiev. Shortly after that we had the premier of a NATO country, Erdogan in Turkey,  who was caught red handed on tape planning a false flag to start a war with Syria. Those are just the tip of the icebergs - epic stories on the leaders of the Ukraine and the US/EU which have been completely ignored by the mainstream media in their efforts to brainwash the majority to accept yet another major war.  

 

There is absolutely no doubt that the psychopaths and sociopaths are ruling over us, and they are deeply entrenched in the media. Nothing is more ridiculous and vomit inducing than the sight of our media, our leaders, punishing the people of Russia and the Crimea for exercising their democratic right to self determination, which they did peacefully through a referendum.

We are punishing the Russians/Crimeans with sanctions, and rewarding a bunch of neonazis who apparently want to murder 8 million Russian speakers with nukes in the rest of the Ukraine.  That surpasses insanity in my book. 

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:17 | 4606090 TBT or not TBT
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No one is talking about nuking Ukrainians of any ethnicity. Get a grip

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:32 | 4606152 Jack Burton
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Liar! The Gas Queen needs to nuke 8 millions Russians because she is another Israeli whore.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:31 | 4606310 TBT or not TBT
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Nice one. Israel has fuck all to do with the Ukraine kerfuffle. Might as well involve MH370 in it, or trace it back to an ice skating judging scandal, or climat change.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 20:19 | 4606634 Jack Burton
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Why was a key commander on the Gound in Kiev an Israeli with direct connections to Mossad. Why was he leading a divison of American paid radical fascists in the drive to destroy an electoed government? The Israeli press itself ran stories on their Hero Commander in Kiev. Do you ever read the press, other than the Offficial Israeli Mouth piece CNN?

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 21:22 | 4606782 TBT or not TBT
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You can read CNN? Are we talking about the airport lounge entertainment channel?

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:52 | 4606383 KKAOSS
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Israel practices ethnic cleansing daily, the shoot for the ~70%-30% mix

and continue to gobble up land for settlements - the have what they want - gridlock - constipation

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 19:07 | 4606430 TBT or not TBT
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Yep, Israel has been stealing Palukranian land and flame roasting ukrastinian children wholesale for decades. It's what those bloodthirsty bastards do because their holy book says to, cause Ukraine is the promised land. ... Oh wait, Israel and Ukraine have fuck all to do with each other.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:41 | 4606175 YHC-FTSE
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I think you may have missed the latest news about Yulia Tymoshenko, who is widely touted to be the next president of Ukraine.  

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:06 | 4606227 TBT or not TBT
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This person has access to nuclear weapons, nuclear weapons that can kill ethnically Russian "ukrainians" exclusively? Help us out here.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:18 | 4606259 YHC-FTSE
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Nuclear weapons are obviously not selective - that is why these people (Tymoshenko/Yatsunyek et al) are psychopaths. Any other silly questions? Just listen to the Tymoshenko tape and make your own conclusions.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:28 | 4606293 TBT or not TBT
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Yeah, I do. Does this guy have nuclear weapons?

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 21:29 | 4606799 TBT or not TBT
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Interesting. Nobody claims this guy has nuclear weapons, and yet we're all in high dudgeon about nukings.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 22:15 | 4606889 Lost Word
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Yulia Tymoshenko is female, but,

presumably she was wishing for the times in the past when Ukraine had nuclear weapons,

before Ukraine surrendered their nukes in a treaty with the US and Russia.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 22:28 | 4606921 TBT or not TBT
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Not ratified by the USA, so not binding. Let's say rather than "treaty", instead: "a promise Clinton made". Some EU countries also promised.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 23:25 | 4607034 YHC-FTSE
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I've got to ask whether you're deliberately being a selective amnesiac or have you been living in a cave for the past few weeks?  Either way, you're obviously online, so all you have to do is search for the info instead of disputing it here. The nukes referred to earlier refers to the Tymoshenko recordings,  and Ukraine's ability to make such weapons come from the boasts made by the current ruling idiots in Kiev who have asserted that they could have them in 3-6 months. These aren't secrets or conjecture - you can see and hear them for yourself. 

I've read some other posts you've made today, and your allegiance to Israel is obvious. Look, I don't have anything against Jewish folks but I really don't understand how any decent person can possibly support a country that purports to want to live in peace, then steals land and murders civilians with the longest military occupation in modern history. I feel disgusted just by this interaction with you.  You post your views and I'll post mine - I suggest you avoid my threads if you don't want to end up looking like the rabid zionist hatemongering cunt you obviously are in real life. 

How do you live with yourself?  Why spend time and energy posting  crap that will incite people to hate you more? I don't get it. You couldn't do more damage to your people's reputation if you wrote for the Klan. It's just pitiful. 

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 23:48 | 4607064 The_Prisoner
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It is the former. It's a classical manouver by the Zionists to selectively deny evidence while at same time accusing their victims of the very actions they themselves are guity of.

 

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 00:10 | 4607091 YHC-FTSE
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Yeah. Seen his kind before,  but thought I'd try to guilt him into behaving like a human being.  Naive of me, I know. :) 

BTW Many thanks for mentioning PERMACULTURE in your post to me the other day. It's an absolutely fascinating subject that I wasn't aware of before, despite reading about hydroponics and prepping. It's a fantastic holistic approach that really appeals to me. 

Thanks again mate.

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 00:22 | 4607110 The_Prisoner
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Pleasure.
I think in the current zeitgeist it is imperative that those of us who still have a shred of humanity get together and work out a solution or at very least save ourselves.

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 00:18 | 4607097 Manipuflation
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That is a A LOT of green for YHC and deservedly so.  Thanks for what you write YHC.

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 00:34 | 4607125 YHC-FTSE
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You're welcome mate. I'm just glad people overlook my grammatical mistakes and the hurried, often incomplete posts. Guys like you, JustObserving, RadicalMarijuana, GW, CD, JackBurton, JR and way more people than I can remember off hand who always make such great efforts to research and express themselves in full deserve all the plaudits. Thanks for your kind words mate.

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 01:43 | 4607204 Manipuflation
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Most people wouldn't even notice your minor grammatical mistakes versus your content.

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 02:48 | 4607241 vic and blood
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You are right up there with those illustrious posters that you mentioned.

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 01:04 | 4607158 TBT or not TBT
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And once again, Ukraine grievances inhabit a different universe than Israeli/Arab ones. The two subjects have nothing to do with each other, regardless of whether one refers to Rachel Corrie as Saint Pancake or reeks of patchouli oil or whacks off to pathetic victim fantasies of psychotic UN refugee "camp" residents' pathetic victim fantasies. Their fucking parents made very poor choices. Ethnically identical parents and grand parents of current Arab citizens of Israel made better choices. The cognitive dissonance worked real fuckng hard on the former, and the latter are all like, but for the grace of Allah, there go I. M

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 14:21 | 4608042 dogismycopilot
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Fucking nugget, they can up the road to Chernobyl and create a dirty bomb. Besides, who the fuck do you think built nukes for Ussr
Santas fucking helpers? The Ukranians moron. Jesse Christ the people dhs pays to post are idiots.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:19 | 4606261 mendolover
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Huh?

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 06:11 | 4607336 scaleindependent
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What a fukin retard

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:22 | 4606112 HL Shancken
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Either cop to being a Russian shill or go down as one of the dumbest people on the planet.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:30 | 4606139 scraping_by
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The point is that the MSM is a propaganda machine in this case, for war or warlike social changes. C level executives pay four and five figures for newsletters that tap into sources of information that directly contradict many or most MSM memes. Doesn't the right wing measure everything in money?

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 16:57 | 4606042 Seize Mars
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I think the looming war solves a few problems.
1. Takes the Chinese manufacturing monster down a few notches, like back to the medieval.
2. Collapse of currencies, especially the USD. War is always a tool to cover the currency collapse. Von mises was right, the crackup boom is the only end to fiat money, and this is covered nicely by total war.
3. The USA must be brought low and forced into the world government.

Note that a similar goal to #1 was accomplished by the British in the "opium wars." There was literally a silver shortage because of the Chinese export monster. The empires wanted it all back. And they got it.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:00 | 4606048 Pejorative Requiem
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Isn't this guy one of George Washington's helpers? RT network stuff all the way.  Anyone who actually believes Obama has neo-con anything in his circle is a bean short of a burrito. It was fun to read his rant, though. "The ignorance and gullibility of Western peoples allows the American neoconservatives to fashion “news” that controls their minds." HAHAHAHA..... still chuckling at that one. Neocons fashion American news....... heehoohahaha!

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 02:50 | 4606093 vic and blood
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Laugh until you vomit, funny guy.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:24 | 4606121 scraping_by
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Then you must be looking elsewhere when average people spout Fox News lies.

Or do you think their 'analysis' is anything more than Big Lie promotion? I can watch the bouncing tits and still truly listen to the fabrications they're spewing. Not a difficult skill to master.

The Case for Goliath is a long list of fabrications. One thing that's true in the book, neoconservatism is a viewpoint of the elite for the elite. The vast majority of Americans, left to themselves, will "sit under their own vine and under their own fig tree, and no one will make them afraid."

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:31 | 4606309 logicalman
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Off your meds again?

 

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 21:25 | 4606450 Ignatius
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Jedi mind trick:  the neocons pretend they don't exist and never did.

Neocons are lying scum with murder at the core of their 'philosophy'.  How can one have an honest conversation with those for whom accepting The Big Lie is a necessary prerequisite?  It's a contradiction.  It's a racket, nothing more.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:19 | 4606104 andrewp111
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This is not true:

"This nonsense is voiced by Obama despite the fact that no one expects Russia to invade Poland or the Baltic countries."

I expect exactly this - Russia to invade Estonia. If Russia wants to prove that NATO is nothing more than a paper tiger and collapse it, I can't think of a better way. Estonia has a city right on the Russian border that is completely populated with Russians. Obama is a show horse, and Putin knows this. Obama will not put US nuclear weapons in Estonia to act as a trip-wire. Putin knows he need only take that one city the way he took Crimea, and when Obama does nothing except bloviate more gas, NATO ceases to exist.

And I think Obama wants the same thing. He sees NATO as a huge US subsidy to the EU (which it is), and Obama is very envious of the EU's socialized healthcare systems which are enabled by this subsidy. He would love to force the EU to start fending for itself.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:27 | 4606132 Winston of Oceania
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"He would love to force the EU to start fending for itself"

So I have something in common with Obumbler after all...

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:34 | 4606324 logicalman
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I'd like to see politicians and bureaucrats having to fend for themselves!

Most of the world's population just want to get on with their lives and be left alone.

GOVERNMENT and it's hangers on (Bureaucrats) are the problem, not the solution.

EU - USA - China

All fictions that people have been convinced to believe in.

All bullshit.

 

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:47 | 4606368 NoPantsSpongeBob
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Absurd. Russia will gain nothing invading any ex-USSR republic, including Ukraine with its 75bln debt. Ukraine's much higher corruption, lawlessness coupled with extreme nationalistic tendencies will only be a pain in the ass for Russia.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:24 | 4606123 Schmuck Raker
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Gotta love the Google ads I'm getting:

"Is it time for the US to invade Syria"

[picture of Assad]

"Doyou think it's time for the U.S. to get involved militarily with the Syrian war?"

"VOTE!"

Just pathetic.... on so many levels.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:24 | 4606125 besnook
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great news!!!! the depression will be over and krugman will be the new economics king with his bold prediction for a huge capacity/capital destruction event to restore the world economy.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:25 | 4606126 Jack Burton
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Paul Craig Roberts has produced an article of historic importance. In an age of lies, one man screams the truth and a truth that facts can verify. In the face of the most vicious lie campaign I have ever seen in my life, someone in the west is hungry for war, hungry to do what Hitler failed at. This is madness of the highest order, it is SO mad that it hardly merits intelligent comments. America is a facist "Planet of the Apes" society of lies and naked greed and naked lust for power. No, I don't mean the stupid "Planet of the Apes" Movie remake, I mean the orginal one form decades ago, the intelligent one.

Obama is not president, we all know that. Bush was not President, we all know that. A Neocon cabal of Bankers and their bought and paif for politicians are seeking total control of mankind. The center of this evil lies in America's financial elites, military industrial elites, and the Israel First lobby that rules the Washington Whore House of evil.

I think Paul Craig Roberts speaks much better than me, so I'll drop it. Read him whenever he has something important to say. He is one of the few Americans who is clued into reality of America's conquest by a Zionest Financial Dictatorship. We are not free citizens, we are dupes being ruled by this all powerful group on Non-Americans.  They have gone public via "The Project For the New American Century" in which they prayed for a 9/11 event to soak the ground with American blood. They got it. Read the words of AIPAC, these liars and criminals rule Washington, most NeoCons are Israel First Non-Americans. These are facts that are provable.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:31 | 4606140 HL Shancken
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You are such a shill for Russia. There isn't one thing that you said they didn't want you to say. Every word of your ridiculous post is exactly what they want you to write. And you do it for free. What a pig you are. What a disgusting, stupid, revolting, treasonous, pig.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:39 | 4606169 Volkodav
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Your little ad hominem attack does not show intelligence....

You need attention so much as to post crap that is sure to get you downvoted?

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:59 | 4606206 HL Shancken
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Well, comrade, I do what I can for my country, just like you do for yours. If that means calling a pig a pig, that's where I go. All in a day's work. Right, comrade?

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:02 | 4606214 YHC-FTSE
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I was tempted to ask you what the weather in Israel is like in April earlier because my mother is thinking of booking one of those pilgrimage tours to Jerusalem. "Your country" is Israel, isn't it?

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 13:16 | 4607912 11b40
Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:16 | 4606241 vic and blood
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Mr. Chancren, I hope you are not getting paid a whole lot. You are certainly not winning any hearts and minds today.

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 06:33 | 4607351 scaleindependent
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lol@chancren

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:57 | 4606399 SharkBit
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Ignorant idiot

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 01:02 | 4607154 dogismycopilot
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no reply - he must be sleeping so he can work and pay his taxes to underwrite Ukraine.

Comrade...the only people using Communist terms these days are TEAM OBAMA Czar this, Czar that, Social medicine, Human Equality..

Fuck you Yanks are thick.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:26 | 4606286 smacker
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"You are such a shill for Russia."

 

I see no shilling for Russia at all in Jack's comments.

You need to understand that quite a few ZH commenters are angry with the lies, deceipt and fascist warmongering of their own government.

Translating that into support for Putin is in your mind.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 19:16 | 4606454 scraping_by
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It's also in the propaganda book. Technical term is 'creating a straw man.' False consequences, false connections, false equivalencies.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 20:21 | 4606638 Jack Burton
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Perfect response smacker, absolutely spot on.

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 06:34 | 4607352 scaleindependent
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Excellent post. Thanks Jack Burton.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:35 | 4606151 q99x2
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Great article. But to me it seems like the Totus of the NWO is seeking to have the US blasted by nations fighting for liberty and the pursuit of happiness and that he is pushing the world to crush the people of the United States while the NWO gains even more power.

A World War is not something anyone wins unless there is control mechanism over the US to destroy it both from within and without. Then the whole thing takes place with little damage to the world and a total annihilation of the US. The DHS has been working with Russian troops in America to do just that.

That is what I believe Obama and his handlers are up to. Wipe out the corporations and individuals with the power to prevent the advancement of the NWO and world domination becomes a possibility.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 22:23 | 4606911 Lost Word
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Most of the large corporations work for the NWO.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:33 | 4606156 Jack Burton
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The State Department Stooges are earning their pay today. Helping to shape the debate in a pro Israel and Neocon war mongering fashion, all lies all the time.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:54 | 4606196 HL Shancken
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"Neocon"? What century are you living in? That old term won't get you any converts. "Fascist" is the new black, comrade. No wonder the Russians decided not to pay you for shilling for them.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 19:20 | 4606471 scraping_by
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False opposition. While Russia may be irritated with the US Government over the CIA NGOs that created the street riots that brought about the coup, they've shown no particular imperialist ambitions against the US territory. Putting us in opposition to their cleaning up that mess is pulling us into a conflict that's not our own. Let's you and him fight.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:00 | 4606208 YHC-FTSE
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Apparently we're "Shills for Russia"! I had such a hearty laugh over that false allegation, I couldn't even get angry. You're not helping matters by changing your avatar to that of the prosecutor general of Crimea! :) LOL. Not that I blame you. She is very pretty, and a genuine heroine too.

 

One thing Paul Roberts could have mentioned is the economic forecasts being made by the Cogressional Budget Office. As I recently posted, the CBO is assuming that GDP will accelerate to 3.5% average growth and full employment will be reached by 2017! Seriously. Tie that in with Krugman's usual dribblings about war being a serious solution to economic malaise ("…. we should aggressively reverse the fiscal austerity of the last few years, getting government at all levels spending several points of GDP more to boost demand"), and I think it should be clear to the most dimmest people that they really are trying to kill us all with a global conflagration.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-27/paul-contrafactual-krugman-laur...

 

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:23 | 4606276 hot sauce technician
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Wtf does Israel have to do with the events in Ukraine?! Do you also see a Joo behind political unrest in Eritrea and Sudan? How about like some Einstein here a few days back did, blame it on bitcoin? That's why "call me maybe" has 540 million views on YouTube, yes?

Think about it for a second, what does Israel gain from a war in Europe? Respite from Kerry and Obungle's pressure not to advertise tenders for the construction of 150 units in northeast Jerusalem? It wouldn't need to manipulate world politics to accomplish that. The hullabaloo in Egypt and Syria r providing enough of a distraction to allow Bibi to semi-ignore this administration.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 19:02 | 4606414 vic and blood
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"The hullabaloo in Egypt and Syria r providing enough of a distraction to allow Bibi to semi-ignore this administration."

Maybe not quite enough distraction for Israel to bring democracy to Iran. Why not another country destabilized, Balkanized, and thrust into chaos and strife for decades?

You have unwittingly argued for your opponent's point of view.

Don't miss Cerys Matthew's recording, Hullabaloo, in which she sings Welsh folk songs. The record is a delight, just like Cerys Matthews.

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 04:20 | 4607280 hot sauce technician
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Yes you're right, another country destabilized does indeed serve Israeli interests to some extent, but it also serves North Korea's, Syria's and Iran's. One of these may as well be behind events in the Ukraine, no? Be a little creative there if you're already making a foray into fiction.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:39 | 4606170 polo007
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http://www.safehaven.com/article/33279/gold-and-silver-they-are-money

Living in America, prior to the 1930s, if you went into a bank with a US Treasury Note of any denomination, you could exchange it for gold or silver, for all currency was specie-backed, even the Federal Reserve issue, which circulated side-by-side with US Treasury Notes, [those issued by the US government and not the private corporation known as the Federal Reserve].
 
After the elites forced the US into bankruptcy in 1933, when FDR declared a bank holiday and shut the system down for several days, when the banks reopened, it was the foreign-owned Federal Reserve that was in charge of the entire banking system, finally. [We add "finally," because that was the objective of the Rothschilds for over 50 years even before 1933, actually longer, but it gets too complicated to explain.]
 
A man goes into a bank, prior to 1933, and hands over a $100 US Treasury Note, or even a Federal Reserve Note, which also was specie-backed, at the time, and asks for $50 in gold and $50 in silver. No problem.
 
Sometime after 1933, a man goes into a bank with a $100 Federal Reserve Note and asks for $50 in gold and $50 in silver.
 
Banker: "Sorry, sir. There is no gold or silver backing for your $100. Would you like two $50 Federal Reserve Notes, instead?"
 
What happened?

When the Federal Reserve Act was passed, two days before Christmas in 1913, when most politicians were home on holiday, the Act was passed with no opposition by the remaining chosen politicians who stayed on, and were well paid to do so by the Rothschild-backed bankers. And so the most treasonous act against the Constitution was passed.
 
Here is how the rest of the plan was carried out: The Federal Reserve issued its own currency, also specie-backed, to circulate along with the US specie-backed Treasury Notes. This went on for a few decades, which is a short period of time for the Rothschilds. What happened was, people saw the new Federal Reserve Notes, along with Treasury Notes, but it made no difference because both were equally backed by, and could be exchanged for gold and silver on demand, at any bank.
 
After 1933, when the Federal Reserve took over control of the money supply, it began to slowly withdraw all US specie-backed Treasury Notes and had them destroyed! Nobody paid attention to the disappearance of the US Treasury Notes because Federal Reserve Notes were the same thing, in their minds, and in reality. This was all planned, decades in advance. It was a part of the Rothschild formula for well over a hundred years even before that.
 
Something else happened very gradually, over time, and almost immediately after 1933. All Federal Reserve Notes that were specie-backed were also withdrawn from circulation. All of the US Treasury currency issued by the United States government had already been removed and destroyed. All that was left were Federal Reserve Notes, backed by the full faith and credit of the United States. Fiat. Again, people had come to accept Federal Reserve Notes in circulation at the same as Treasury Notes, so when all that was left were the Federal Reserve Notes, it did not matter because people could still buy and sell whatever they wanted and did as in times prior to the financial bait-and-switch.
 
All the gold and silver owned by the United States government was stolen, taken by the elite-owned Federal Reserve central bank. The central bank controlled the government and the media. The public was fed the kind of news that never let on to what happened during those decades, and the public has since been dumbed down even further in all the other decades to date.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:35 | 4606327 Deathrips
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Polo.

The coinage act of 1792 has a prefered method of dealing with fractionalized monetary creation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coinage_Act_of_1792

 

RIPS

 

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:41 | 4606174 Son of Captain Nemo
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"The secret British, Russian, and French aims of the war were hidden from the public, which was whipped up with fabricated propaganda to support a war whose outcomes were far different from the intentions of those who caused the war. People seem unable to learn from history. We are now witnessing the world again being led down the garden path by lies and propaganda, this time in behalf of American world hegemony."...

And what will be truly the most tragic consequence of all is that unlike the 20th Century where wars were created through subterfuge due to a completely controlled mass media, we have alternatives in this Century unlike any other due to the internet as a reliable and objective news source to offset the corrupt syndicated press. 

The greatest gifts we could possess in getting the unvarnished truth to the masses through the like of ZeroHedge, What Really Happened, and so many contributors through blogs like Paul Craig Roberts, William Engdahl, Michel Chossudovsky, Francis Boyle...is the speed in capturing the story before it can be manipulated.

But will it be enough again this time?!!!

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:45 | 4606181 JR
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“America’s military power has been dissipated in little colonial wars, just as Britain’s were in the 19th century. When British imperial troops had to face real German soldiers, they were slaughtered. Similarly, the US military, reconfigured after Vietnam to wage guerilla wars, is in no shape today to face the grandsons of the once mighty Red Army.” – Eric Margolis

Margolis warns of Washington’s “shear madness” today on Lew Rockwell in Defending Everything=Defending Nothing.

Here’s an excerpt:

Frederick the Great, the renowned Prussian warrior-king, warned: “He who tried to defend everything, defends nothing.”

Every young office should have Great Fredrick’s words tattooed on his right hand. Soon after the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, a small number of strategists, this analyst included, warned NATO, “do not move east. It’s a bridge too far.”

Soviet chairman Mikhail Gorbachev had agreed to let rebellious East Germany escape Soviet control – but in exchange for NATO’s vow not to push east in previously Soviet dominated areas of Eastern Europe and the Caucasus. The US and NATO agreed, then quickly broke their pledge.

NATO’s advance into Eastern Europe, the Baltic and the Caucasus – not to mention former Soviet Central Asia - brought the US-led alliance right up to Russia’s borders. US anti- missile systems were scheduled to go into Poland, close to Russian territory. New US bases were set up in Bulgaria, Romania and Central Asia.

Unsubtle US efforts to bring ex-Russian Ukraine and the vital Sevastopol naval base in Crimea under NATO control  - no doubt to punish Russia for supporting Syria and Iran – proved the last straw for the Kremlin.

Talking tough is easy. Defending Eastern Europe from a possible Russian invasion will not be. The main problem is that while US/NATO guarantees have been advanced to Russia’s sensitive borders, their military capabilities have not.  In short, commitment without capability.

Russia’s military could take over the Baltic states of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia in an afternoon. Sizeable portions of their populations are ethnic Russians.

NATO is not deployed or equipped to go to war over Ukraine: its troops are far to the west, without supply systems or air cover. Besides, European powers, aside from the little Nazis in Denmark and Ukraine’s nationalists, want no part of war with Russia – that’s left to the war hawks safely at home in Washington...

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/03/eric-margolis/nato-aggression/

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:35 | 4606326 Volkodav
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Windows to Russia: Gorbachev on Nato expansion and Crimea.http://windowstorussia.com/

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:59 | 4606406 JR
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These links reveal unbelievable statements.

From the 2008 interview, here’s Gorbachev, for example:

MOSCOW, (RIA Novosti - 07/05/2008) – Promises made by U.S. leaders cannot be trusted, former Soviet president Mikhail Gorbachev said in an interview with The Daily Telegraph published on Wednesday.

“The Americans promised that NATO wouldn’t move beyond the boundaries of Germany after the Cold War, but now half of central and eastern Europe are members, so what happened to their promises? It shows they cannot be trusted,” he said in Paris…

“I sometimes have a feeling that the United States is going to wage war against the entire world,” the former Soviet leader said.

“The United States cannot tolerate anyone acting independently. Every U.S. president has to have a war,” he concluded, also saying that the world had squandered the chance in the decade after the Cold War to “build a new world order.”

The link also has quotes from Gorbachev recently on Ukraine.

Moscow Times: (Mar. 19 2014) Former Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev has defended Russia’s takeover of Crimea, saying that the referendum among the peninsula’s voters corrected a historical “mistake.”

“While Crimea had previously been joined to Ukraine based on the Soviet laws, which means [Communist] party laws, without asking the people, now the people themselves have decided to correct that mistake,” Gorbachev said on Monday, Interfax reported.

“This should be celebrated, not sanctioned,” he said.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 19:02 | 4606416 kchrisc
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NATO should be renamed the Zionist Oligarch Defense Organization--ZODO

It, NATO, had to be brought east so as to protect the Jewish oligarchs that snatched up everything and then some as the communists collapsed.

Basically it was, "Contracts for MIC and protection for us."

 

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 22:31 | 4606929 Lost Word
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Someone here at ZH already named it as ZATO.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 17:59 | 4606205 ExploitedCitizen
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Putin tricked the Zionists, got into power and started rounding up the oligarchs looting the country.

The US/Israel underestimated him.  Then he strikes a deal with China providing them unlimited oil.  That totally fucked their plans to contain China, as originally the US controlled China's oil supply from the middle east.

The US now finds itself with its pants down, and the bully doesn't like being humiliated by the underdog, Russia/China.

US/Israel knows full well without a total monopoly and world reserve currency, their war mongering and crooked scams are unsustainable.  They cannot survive with competition, because they are inefficient and crooked.

US/Israel now has to make a choice, start WW3 or lose their status as the only superpower in the world.  Are they willing to destroy the world in their quest for power?  I take one look at Sheldon Adelson and his Likud lunatics and say fucking right they will.  They are evil old men, who only have 5 years to live at most, what the fuck do they care.  A nuclear holocaust would probably be the only thing to make them smile at this point in their wretched lives.

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:54 | 4606391 kchrisc
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You are so correct.

However, I don't know about a nuclear holocaust, but "something nuclear this way comes."

Sidenote: I was a bit shocked to see the castle in the film Ender's Game was rendered like the one at the Disney parks and that the explosions shown have nuclear bomb characteristics.

Sun, 03/30/2014 - 00:28 | 4607121 BeetleBailey
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...and isn't this a great time for Israel to attack Iran...when no one's paying attention....

Provocateur a la Shalom....motherfuckers

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:14 | 4606218 NuYawkFrankie
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It's either your ass - or the Punk NeoCons...

Who's it gonna be, Pussies 'They Died With Their Diapers On' Of America?

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 18:06 | 4606225 shutdown
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Now THIS is precisely why I read Zerohedge all the time. Everyone should.

A true gem of an article. Bravo!  

Sat, 03/29/2014 - 19:01 | 4606410 JR
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shutdown, I like your taste.

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