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According to The White House, 7,041,000 people have signed up for Obamacare (though it's unclear how many have paid as of yet and what the mix of enrolees actually is). While this will be proclaimed as mission accomplished and spun for all it's worth, wasn't Obamacare supposed to reduce the ranks of the 45 million uninsured in America? Still, it seems like a long way to go to meet CBO projections, as WaPo notes, "the CBO and Joint Congressional Committee on Taxation in February projected that 13 million previously uninsured people would gain coverage in 2014." We suspect the President will be over the moon and blame Republicans, Twitter, and YouTube for the number not being higher...

 

 

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Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:13 | 4614855 Greenskeeper_Carl
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well, remember, if you dont meet the desired numbers, you can always just blame the weather..

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:18 | 4614883 knukles
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Wait.
This whole fucking thing was about 46 Million Uninsured people!
So what about the other still uninsured 39 Million?
Actually, more because a lot of folks Lost Their Insurance Because of ObamaDontFuckingCare

Oh fuck it we'll just do a Vietnam, declare victory and go home

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:26 | 4614922 NoDebt
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7 Million, verified by the same people who tabulate web page hits and "active subscribers" for Google, Twitter and FaceBook.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:35 | 4614967 knukles
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Another Chevy Cobalt speech
Take it with a grain of inoperative ignition system

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:38 | 4614979 outamyeffinway
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Enrolling and paying; two very different things.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:58 | 4615070 Shad_ow
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Lying and quoting the true figures; two very different things.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:15 | 4615114 Manthong
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“Wenn es ernst wird, muss man lügen,”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4fEJIluuR0

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:43 | 4615153 Gringo Viejo
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5 million of the 7 million will be subsidised.
If I'm wrong, I'll shit in my hat.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:51 | 4615221 MeMadMax
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LOL...

 

A "victory" claimed by the same person who set the conditions of what a "victory" would be...

 

LOL... Alot of brainwashed motherfuckers out there...

Now, wether the numbers are real or not is another story....

 

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 19:30 | 4615452 TeamDepends
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Are the numbers real*?

*Is Jon Corzine an honest man?*

*It was the weather that made him do it*

*Tell Vlad we'll meet in Crime A for a beer, where I'll be really flexible.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:39 | 4614983 fonestar
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fonestar becomes mesmerised by Obozo's hand gestures.  Everyone NLP along with Obozo!

 

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:45 | 4615015 BandGap
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Hand jive.

I watch his facial expressions, it all points to a Big Lie.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 18:19 | 4615285 Renewable Life
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This shit isn't about actual numbers of paying enrollees, its about what this shit has been about since day one with these guys, getting AS MANY U.S. Citizens on the Federal government welfare system and entitlement systems.....PERIOD!

7 million more people, that regardless of what their personal politics are, will now be "invested" in the system continuing the handouts. payouts, and subsidies!! 

Its like all those videos on youtube of Tea Party supporters at rallies, saying they want the Federal Government to get their hands off their SS checks or medicare, etc. Or the guy who said, he hates the Federal government, but when they asked him if he gets unemployement or disability, he snaps back, "what the fuck does that got to do with it, they aint no jobs, what the fuck do you want me to do, of course i get it!"

Its a socialist society now, no bones about it, stock market is rigged, FX is rigged, commodities are not priced from any market mechanisms, private jobs are guaranteed by government, and a growing number are just straight government now, half the society is on some type of welfare or entitlement program, police state is in full effect, but thank fucking god, Baseball season is back and the Voice is getting ready to kickoff!

Matrix shit now friends, we are living in the fucking Matrix now! Dont try to unplug or the guys in suits are right around the corner!

 

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:08 | 4615098 MillionDollarBoner_
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Hey FoneyStar - howz trix?

An' howz 'bout ShitCoin being down prox 30% in ten days?

BTFD...MF ?;o)

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:17 | 4615119 fonestar
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Hey moron, fonestar was saying months ago that Bitcoin would go into $400's.  Remember?  The point is that Bitcoin is going to five, six and seven figures in the next few years though.  Yes, yes, fonestar knows.... it's kinda long time frames for you people to deal with comprehending.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:19 | 4615124 MillionDollarBoner_
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;o)

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:40 | 4615179 zaphod
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o7

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:50 | 4615040 stant
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the numbers come from the same web site thats a piece of crap. a 1billion$ piece of crap

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:27 | 4615149 gafgroocK
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APRIL FOOLS!

 

What a trickster! hehehe...Obama left out the 6 Million thrown off the insurance so that means 1 million net, less the 900K who didn'y pay so all this bullshit was for 100K people (maybe)

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:59 | 4615239 NotApplicable
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You mean all of this bullshit was an effort to spend a billion bucks (in the right places).

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 19:15 | 4615390 nmewn
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Thats about right.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 21:22 | 4615772 XitSam
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I'm starting to wonder if Obama is Loki or Coyote.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:42 | 4614990 PrecipiceWatching
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And of course the fabled "46 million" that the Communists have continually used as their battle club, is as ALWAYS, an outright lie, made real by a LeftMedia who constantly repeats the fable until it becomes assumed Gospel.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:43 | 4615006 SunRise
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7 Million enrollees does not mean they were previously uninsured and suddenly decided to get religion.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:48 | 4615028 BandGap
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A very good question - is this 7 million people total or 7 million heads of households? Last time I checked there are over 310,000,000 'mericans.

If it's the former this is truly lame. All those democrats sacrificed at the alter of Obama for this? Too bad.

 

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 18:01 | 4615241 NotApplicable
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Did you ever wonder, maybe this is as good as it gets?

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:26 | 4615143 drendebe10
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More vacuous gum flapping from the arrogant narcissistic pathologic lying illegal alien kenyan muslim sociopathic ignoramus fudge packer in chief...   needs its skin sand papered off and buried in salt... impeachment is too good for the thing...

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 19:41 | 4615480 koder
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I love your vocabulary sir. Though I doubt most even know what vacuous means lol

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:35 | 4614968 Pig Circus
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Reminds me of tha outlying employkment number right before the 2012 election. What was that happy horseshit number some em like 860,000 or some bullshit.

It's all fucking rigged now bitches.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:58 | 4615039 RaymondKHessel
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7m dropped last yr+7m "enrolled" = 0

46m still 'un enrolled'

= fuzzy math <-- you can blame Bush

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:59 | 4615074 FuzzyDunlop21
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One year from now we will learn that of the 7,041,000 people who signed up for Obamacare, 7,000,000 of them were named Linda Green. 

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 19:42 | 4615485 SAT 800
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I think he should do a little softshoe routine in a white suit with spangles on it; and finish up with Mission Accomplished !. Show that Bush dude how its done.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:13 | 4614856 One And Only
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"In Soviet Russia there is no Typhus."

Why do I have a feeling this thing is like that thing?

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:23 | 4614911 Hippocratic Oaf
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He showed up at 4:20

Motherfucker likes his weed, brah!

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:13 | 4614857 DoChenRollingBearing
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"...7,041,000 people have signed up for Obamacare..."

 

And how many have paid?

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:17 | 4614881 john39
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and how many of these sign ups were previously uninsured, as opposed to people who had their insurance get cancelled?

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:23 | 4614912 NoDebt
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And how may of the "sign-ups" were for Medicaid?  I'll bet half, minimum.

Probably more than half considering the 7MM number is an absolute lie from the get-go.  

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:37 | 4615172 JeffB
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The guidelines seem very "generous" to me... of course it's not really Obama's money to be giving away.

People get government rebates on health insurance up to 400% of the Federal Poverty Level. They get additional reductions in cost sharing at 250% of the Federal Poverty Level. I think Medicaid kicks in at 138% of the Federal Poverty Level, and the CHIP program kicks in closer to the 400% level I believe.

The 2014 Federal Poverty Level

 

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 19:13 | 4615383 Goldilocks
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03 Chip Away The Stone Aerosmith 1988 Gems
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVeR0bN5j7A (4:00)

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:43 | 4615191 JeffB
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That would seem to be a reasonable guess, given that some estimated that 8.9 million new people might gain access to Medicaid because of the expansions of eligibility under Obamacare.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:18 | 4614887 One And Only
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I've read 850,000 have paid

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2594309/President-plans-victory-...

But who the fuck knows. Everyone is lying.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:31 | 4614949 JLee2027
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Pravda would be proud.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 19:48 | 4615504 SAT 800
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Pravda ? Shit; Goebbels would like to shake this guys hand. respect from one professional to another.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:26 | 4614923 JeffB
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Much/most of the reason for the ridiculous number of "no-pays" is due to the ridiculous way the system is set up. I spoke with a health insurance broker a few days ago who was pulling her hair out about how the system was still running.

She had clients that she had helped sign up for policies, but who had never received any kind of confirmation that they were enrolled nor any kind of bill. She would call the insurance companies, but they had no record of having ever received the enrollment applications. She called everyone else she could get ahold of but no one had any record of anything. She was told it wasn't a problem, that they had probably passed it along to Medicaid or CHIP, the government run Children's Health Insurance Pool to see if they were eligible for government aid.

The broker said that it had already been weeks since it was originally submitted, however, and no one had any record of the applications, nor any way of determining if they were lost in the system somewhere, or just tooling along in one of the government computers somewhere waiting to be processed. That's obviously nerver wracking for the consumers, of course, especially after hearing the stories like the guy in Las Vegas stuck with $407,000 in bills despite having signed up months before his heart attack.

Whatever.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:38 | 4614980 centerline
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I have heard the same thing from a neighbor who signed up.  Not sure at this point if he ever got any sort of confirmation.  I will have to ask him next time I see him.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:56 | 4615061 RafterManFMJ
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It takes a long time for the messenger pigeon to fly out from Washington; patience, and look to the East at dawn.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:44 | 4615199 zaphod
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"patience, and look to the East at dawn."

If this is a LoTR reference, then the people who show up from the East at dawn are warrirors who mow everything down in their path. 

In this case the warriors coming from the east are from DC and the people they mow down are us peasents. 

Very accurately describes this thing.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 18:26 | 4615297 JeffB
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Yes, it's both sad and absurd at the same time. Why the people aren't asked to pay up front is beyond me, particularly since they can't be rejected for health reasons anyway. Many of them are literally begging for a bill. They want to pay but can't.

It's even more absurd that the information submitted is immediately lost to everyone involved. No one knows what happens to it, not the customer, not the agent or navigator who signed them up, not the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (not sure how they came up with an acronym of CMS for that agency) and certainly not the insurance companies, doctors or hospitals who are supposed to be providing the medical care allegedly contracted for.

What a mess.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:41 | 4615188 hot sauce technician
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Peeps like to throw around "Orwell" and "Huxley" a lot round here, but this garbage is straight up KafkaCare.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:14 | 4614862 NYPoke
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File this right along side Bush's declaration of victory in Iraq.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:48 | 4615031 TBT or not TBT
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Bad optics on a banner on one ship returning from its deployment. The deployment of a ship. Which completed its mission.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:14 | 4614865 centerline
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There's nothing wrong with the ship... see, the band is still playing.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:15 | 4614869 sixsigma cygnus...
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Every minute he is late, drink one shot.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:17 | 4614878 DavidC
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Hic...!

DavidC

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:15 | 4614873 Bastiat
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How many have paid and how many tried to get out but can't?

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:16 | 4614874 1000yrdstare
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how many have not "proceeded to checkout"?

 

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:17 | 4614879 PGR88
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Don't you just love government statistics?

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:17 | 4614880 Billy Sol Estes
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Taxing your existence.

-Government, for all your needs.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:20 | 4614897 knukles
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raises hand

I wanna blow job

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:59 | 4615073 RafterManFMJ
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Yellen is inbound. It is a felony to jizz on her bowl-cut.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:21 | 4614888 medium giraffe
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Oh god, not this fucking guy again.  The 7041000 probably just means the figure is out by 3 decimal places due to shitty code.

Oh, here he comes, where's my fucking sick bag.

 

edit: Stuck in line because of huge surge in demand? Bwaaaa ha ha ha ha!  Get off!

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:19 | 4614891 GOLD AND SILVER...
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How could you possibly ever believe a government statistic?

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 19:16 | 4615391 spanish inquisition
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Well, it could be true. 1 million from Chicago, another 2.5 million signed up that are dead and 1.5 million that were all signed up in Pakistan at a CIA sweat shop that don't even know they are signed up.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:20 | 4614899 replaceme
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EVEN MORE MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:21 | 4614900 Count de Money
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Fuck you, Obama

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:34 | 4614961 Jim B
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And I raise you another FUCK YOU OBAMZO!

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:22 | 4614905 Frank N. Beans
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"and blame Republicans, Twitter, and YouTube for the number not being higher..."

and the weather, don't forget the weather

 

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:24 | 4614906 medium giraffe
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YOU'RE a doughnut hole!

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:22 | 4614907 pound the vix
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Guiness book just confirmed 7,041,000 april fools performed by one person is a new record

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:24 | 4614914 RacerX
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Complete fucking liar. I call bullshit on all the "facts" he's throwing out. Lowered healthcare costs"? Bullshit. Fixed healthcare? Bullshit. Made Healthare "a lot better"? Seriously?? Bullshit.

All BULLSHIT.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:02 | 4615083 RafterManFMJ
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They should find the 40 retards that believe even one word this organ grinder's helper says, and sterilize them.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:26 | 4614921 the not so migh...
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it is april 1st guys, lightin up, he knows it too.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:26 | 4614925 marcusfenix
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hmm...

I wonder if he can work "pending nuclear war" into his ad campaign as he certainly seems determined enough to start one.

that should help him reach the 13 million the CBO said would be enrolled by the deadline.

winning the future.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:26 | 4614926 QQQBall
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Shawn isn't paying $30,000, but the coverage is still $30,000 - now someone else pays the difference.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:28 | 4614930 medium giraffe
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And now he's scoring cheap points off a cancer victim. What a guy.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:32 | 4614931 Colonel Klink
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It's PURE bullshit lies.  As is everything this regime does.

EDIT:  I got it everybody.....APRIL FOOLS!!!!!

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:28 | 4614933 MedTechEntrepreneur
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Filthy liars...no way it is 7 million.  Probably 2 million new uninsured and 5 million re-insured.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:34 | 4614960 gbresnahan
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Must be including the people who will be fined for not signing up.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:56 | 4615230 SDShack
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And probably at least 1 million of the new uninsured is on Medicaid, which would have happened anyway without 0zer0care.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:28 | 4614934 QQQBall
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I have a friend who got free insurance - I guess its Medicaid... she says no one takes her insurance; however, technically she has it.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:28 | 4614935 delivered
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So here's my rant for the day as I was just waiting for this bullshit to hit the airwaves. 

- Obamacare, Today: 7 million signed up but 4 million lost coverage last year when the old plans terminated. I was one of those that lost coverage as Aetna sent me the FO letter. So with 45 million uninsured and net a net of 4.5 million signed up (7 million less 2.5 million that lost but let's assume 1.5 million got continued coverage as their carriers extended their plans), that amounts to just 10% of the target. And this is a success. What a fucking joke.

- Obamacare, in One Year: Let's place our bets now. Everyone in the industry, and I do mean everyone I'm speaking to, is expecting 25 to 50% rate hikes next year. As so duly noted, the current year rate is the biggest "teaser" rate in the history of the US. But the rate hikes will not just be for the poor Obamacare enrollees as all small businesses that are making an effort to offer health insurance are going to get hammered. I work in this space and the fear looking forward is extreme.

The success or failure (which I'm expecting) is not measured in whether the website is functioning or not or how many people enrolled. The ulitimate success will be whether the program offers an economically viable solution, over the long run, to a major problem in the US. My money is squarely on no as once the mix of enrollees is known, premiums aren't paid, deductibles of thousands of dollars not paid (given the fact that most enrollees will not be able to pay these), service providers continue to leave in droves due to low reimbursements, etc., etc., etc., this program will hit a major wall in 2015 (as 2014 being an election year will ensure the problems are not publicly presente). I have no doubt that the  ACA/Obamacare will go down as the worst piece of federal legislation, ever!

But to further my enjoyment today, we learned that GM has been and will always be a company full of immoral and unethical crooks (based on the recall issues that are blowing up) as they brought in a lady to be the sacrificial lamb. The markets are so rigged that those that believe they aren't rigged can't even produce a viable defense. And that Cat is being applauded for leveraging the tax code, for no other purpose than to avoid taxes, to save a couple of billion dollars.

I'm beginning to think that I'm the one that is insane for thinking that the US political and financial systems actually have any degree or level of morality or ethics left. Actually, I believe I'm the one that is insane as I'm doing the same thing each morning, over and over - Waking up and hoping that this nightmare finally comes to an end and ethics and morals will return. This is the definition of insanity. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

 

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:46 | 4615018 centerline
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Your not insane.  Just trapped in the system like the rest of us.

Nice rant.  I am curious to see what happens next year myself in terms of insurance.  My firm changed carriers a few years ago to a plan that is compliant.  The rate increase this year was relatively tame.  I can't imagine the next renewal is going to go so well.  Our margins are pretty thin and we really can't take any more hits without reducing staff, cutting pay, lowering benefits, etc. 

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 18:23 | 4615281 SDShack
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You won't have to wait till next year to find out what is going to happen. The shit is going to hit the fan this summer with 0zer0care. I have been preaching it for months, so I will do so again. All this POLITICAL posturing just shows how completely out of touch everyone in DC really is. In a few months, this will go from Political to Financial in a BIG way. Everyone knows the 7 million is bogus. But the real problem with 0zer0care is the risk pools have been obliterated. This is because no young invincibles are signing up, only old and sick. The insurance companies, who NOW have to cover EVERYONE, are going to be the ones stuck with the losses from these distorted risk pools. Already, there have been articles from insurance execs saying premiums are going to rise, substantially. All this will be known in a few months as the insurers get the final tallies on who actually has insurance, and HAS PAID. That will all be rolled up into the insurance companies financials this summer.

That's when it gets interesting, because the insurance companies wrote 0zer0care, and so they inserted a bailout provision in it that allows them to be re-imbursed for these losses. So this summer, they will demand their bailout, and 0zer0 will give it to them. If 0zer0 doesn't, the insurance companies will sue, and win, because they have standing, and contract law presidence is on their side. No way 0zer0 takes the chance of losing a lawsuit, because that means 0zer0care unravels piecemeal in the courts. so 0zer0 will bail out the insurance companies. When that hits the headlines, the uproar is going to epic.

But it gets better. The bailout only addresses losses already incurred, not future losses. With the risk pools being obliterated, this means the insurance companies will still have to raise rates by double digit percentages in anticipation of future losses. This will include EMPLOYER plans, and this gem will hit in Sept to meet the 90 day WARN notification for changes to employee benefit programs that start 1/1/2015. This means that employers will have to raise rates double digits, or eliminate employer plans all together to cut costs. Either way, there are going to be about 50 million people affected just before the midterms, and that is going to make the uproar last fall when 5 million people lost their insurance look like a picnic. The dumbcrats have no idea what a shitstorm is coming at them. They and the Repukes are all battling this from a POLITICAL perspective, when it clearly is an ECONOMIC disaster that is barreling down the tracks at runaway speed. And there is nothing anyone can do about it. No 0zer0 Executive Order is going to solve this, not even delaying the employer mandate. That's because the financials are driving this disaster now. No Executive Order can stop the premium increases that are coming. This monster is a virus killing the host. The Repukes should have cut off the funding for it when they had the chance. It's only going to get worse from here. Plan accordingly.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:57 | 4615063 QQQBall
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Dude, ACA was never intended to fix the Healthcare system. The "fix", "make it better" "universal coverage for all", etc.,  memes are just spin.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 18:05 | 4615252 NotApplicable
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Don't worry, the upcoming elections will cure everything!

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:32 | 4614941 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Sort of off topic but we since he has fallen off the radar.

https://shoebat.com/2014/03/18/malik-obama-scandal-blowing-egypt-u-s-emb...

Recently, Dr. Sadek Raouf Ebeid, whose articles we have published in the past, appeared on a prominent Egyptian television program for nearly 20 minutes to discuss the case of Malik Obama. While there has essentially been both a mainstream and conservative media blackout in America on this scandal, it has captured the attention of tens of millions of Egyptians.

...

Prominent Arabic newspaper Al-Wafd also picked up on Ebeid’s interview (translated):

Sadek Raouf Ebeid, an Egyptian doctor in the U.S., implored the U.S. Congress to investigate the scandal involving Malik Obama, the brother of U.S. President Obama, saying that by providing Malik’s organization with American taxpayer dollars, the American people are also aiding Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir.

Ebeid, in a televised interview via telephone, said he had notified members of the U.S. Congress that according to the laws of the U.S., Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir is a war criminal, and is prohibited from entering the United States and that because Malik provides material support to al-Bashir, he too qualifies as an enemy combatant / terrorist.

The doctor pointed out that the U.S. authorities have overlooked the laws as they apply to the U.S. president’s brother.

During the interview, Ebeid challenged the U.S. Embassy in Egypt to dispute any of the four allegations he brought forth. In the live interview, hosted by a very well known newscaster in Egypt, Dr. Naeela Emara, Ebeid was asked to lay out the allegations. Emara adopted Ebeid’s public challenge, herself calling on a spokesman from the Embassy to make a statement in response to Ebeid’s claims.

...

Ebeid’s allegations were as follows:

  1. That President / General Omar Al-Bashir of Sudan is classified by the current White House and State Department as an enemy combatant and was denied an entry visa to the U.S. for posing a threat to America’s national interest and its homeland security.
  2. Malik Obama works for one of Al-Bashir’s largest organizations.
  3. Ebeid referred to the Military Commissions Act (MCA) of 2006, amended in 2009. This law deems anyone who provides an enemy combatant with material support, qualifies as an enemy combatant himself, even if he did not pick up arms against the U.S. himself. This would make Malik Obama an enemy combatant.
  4. Malik Obama’s Barack H. Obama Foundation (BHOF) was granted 501(c)(3) status to collect money from unwitting U.S. taxpayers, under false pretenses (EIN# 262461343). This status was granted by former IRS official, Lois Lerner. Both Ebeid and Emara highlighted the fact that the BHOF received its status on a Sunday (June 26, 2011). In the interview, Emara sarcastically stated that Lerner obviously, “…opened the office on a Sunday morning to give Malik what he wants.”

....

Considering that State Department spokesman Marie Harf admitted to continuing dialogue with the Muslim Brotherhood (a terrorist listed organization now by the GCC which includes Saudi Arabia) in Egypt, the Obama administration is showing no signs of engaging in this scandal publicly.

Also as a reminder Malik's ties to funding Hamas another terrorist organization...

https://shoebat.com/2014/01/30/malik-obamas-boss-pledges-allegiance-hamas/

 

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:40 | 4614989 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Worth pointing out since it brings more color to the IRS, Lois Lerner, Obama and his brother Malik and terrorist funding.

 

Malik’s IDO is part of a Coalition of Islamic Organizations (CIO) which also includes the Islamic Society in Gaza, a Hamas front organization founded by Hamas terror leader Sheikh Yassin and headed by Hamas Prime Minister / terror leader Ismail Haniyeh who was its president for almost ten years.

Besides Malik’s Islamic Da’wa Organization, other members of the Coalition the Islamic Organizations (CIO) are involved in the funding as well, like the World Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY), Commission for Humanitarian Relief – Syndicate doctors Egypt. Other websites throughout the years have advertised the call to aid [here] and [here]. On a side note, Malik attended events for the World Assembly for Muslim Youth (WAMY) [1] [2] [3]. This involves his other IRS illegally approved (back-dated 38 months by Lois Lerner) Barack H. Obama Foundation (BHOF) future cooperation with WAMY. BHOF’s tax-exempt status was approved after Lerner was asked to investigate the foundation.

This type of funding is also used to funnel donations to send weapons and explosives to Hamas as was promoted by several terror forums [here] and [here] asking to fund purchasing “Kalashnikovs” “RPGs” “TNT” “missiles” “Al-Banna bombers …”

...

And as an aside that IDO is run out of and an official arm of the Sudanese government a country that is listed as a terrorist state by the State Department.

 

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:50 | 4615038 centerline
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Jesus...  makes me feel like I am going to get droned just reading this.

Your on a roll today DCH.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 18:08 | 4615256 NotApplicable
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Given all you've written, it should be painfully obvious that ALL states are terrorist states.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 18:27 | 4615296 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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The awakening is happening little by little got to spell it out for the newly awakened who still think it is business as usual and by putting in more of the same through rearranging faces and chairs to make the room look different is going to fix things is not the answer any longer.

If keep giving consent you keeping getting more of the same........

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:30 | 4614942 QQQBall
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USSA gov't spin reminds me more and more of desperation of the USSR near the end.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:30 | 4614944 Yen Cross
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    I wonder how many of those enrollments were illegals or already on medicaid?  TOTUS couldn't couldn't beat a one legged man in an ass kicking contest, let alone run that bankrupt shithole D.C. .

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:01 | 4615004 buzzsaw99
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I wonder how many were people who got chased out of their existing plans.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:30 | 4614946 buzzsaw99
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now go home and get your shine box

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:31 | 4614950 replaceme
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These never make me feel better.  Shawn!! Marla!!!  Shut up, Boner.  Biter.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:32 | 4614953 hegemony
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I called last night just to see what they would offer me and compare it to my current plan. I got a recording that asked me to leave my phone number and was told someone would call me back within 5 to 7 days, Finally, it stated to not be worried and that I was now covered!

 

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:32 | 4614954 larz
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cant anyone stop this sociopath

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 18:10 | 4615261 NotApplicable
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Sorry, but you mean sociopuppet. Stopping him will do nothing but create a vaccuum to fill with the next power-hungry, boot-licker.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:36 | 4614972 QQQBall
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I expect to get a 50% premium increase to near $900/month. Sort of O/T, but by the time I pay taxes, fees for Out of State agents, franchise taxes, Corp registration. Thousands of $$$$ of accountancy bills, on and fucking on.... Why keep pouring my life energy through the sieve. I am 75% convinced to leave b/f yearend. I'm not the only one either.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:36 | 4614973 IridiumRebel
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7 million, or even the reduced 6 million enrollees is not at all likely to happen. According to recent data — not from the administration, naturally — has 23% not paying for the first monthly premium. Of the remainder, 5% have not paid for the second month. And making allowances for the inaccuracies, duplications, do-overs, appeals, etc. of the administration’s policy selection number, it seems safe to say that actual enrollees will be between 50% and 70% of th administration’s much touted numbers. So if the administration claims 7 million, the actual number is likely to be between 3.5 million on the low end, and 4.9 million on the high end.

That number, whatever it is finally, will fall still further if premiums rise from their current unaffordable level by 20%, which some commentators say is likely, as healthy customers view the crappy policies as not worth the money, given the deductibles, co-pays and co-insurance… This will leave the mostly ill in the program, which would be the death spiral.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:40 | 4614991 LACHAD
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Everyone standing and clapping either has employee paid insurance or has a pre-existing condition.  Not one of them pays for their own directly (like me as a single entity small business owner) or is young and healthy (also like me).  My insurance, like millions of others, would triple in price if I CHOSE to buy it on the exchange...the last time I went to the doctor was 4 years ago, and I am putting the savings I get from my catostrophic plan and not needing a doctor into an account to eventually pay my $5,000 high deductible "catastrophic" insurance if I ever need to use it.  I want a higher deductible and lower premiums and obamacare does not offer that.  I could potentially get behind a "non-droppable" requirement for insurances to handle the conditions and such that do pop up and insurance is supposed to cover, but I do not support paying more to support others, many who have bad habits. 

It's time we start treating insurance like insurance not prepaid medical.  I am sick of all the subsidies and taxes I pay in the middle class.  

Anyone know of a website to sign up for repealing it or some way to voic our opinions in a larger forum?

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 18:12 | 4615265 NotApplicable
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Ummm... they don't give a fuck about your opinions!

Also, I'm surprised you haven't had your catastrophic coverage dropped yet.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:47 | 4615023 Amish Hacker
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I weep for the America that used to be.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:47 | 4615207 mc225
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...or is it the america which never was?

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:50 | 4615029 ebworthen
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7 Million; what's that, 5% of the adult population?

And how many of those already had insurance but had it dumped by their insurance company and had to re-buy on the .gov exchange?

They have to cover me if I have a pre-existing condition?  Great, I'll wait until I have a pre-existing condition - sign up, "get covered", get my moniey's worth - then dump it when I'm better.

Fuck you Obama, fuck you .gov, fuck you Big Pharma/Insurers/Corporate Sick-Care.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:54 | 4615050 Chuck Knoblauch
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I guess the Republicans support Obamacare. I don't hear any opposition from Grand Old Party members. Why is that?

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:55 | 4615227 HamRove
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They're going to "Let it fail" on its own.

Which is bullshit.

How about nutting up and reading out the MANY awful things in this law every other day to any who will listen....Get people pissed enough to repeal it.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 16:54 | 4615055 autofixer
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"Mission Accomplished!"  Oh wait, that was the other guy.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:02 | 4615081 bh2
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Obamacare is "here to stay", is it? Would anyone like to make book on that?

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:03 | 4615086 NuYawkFrankie
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Obamacare Enrollment Victory!

Meanwhile Our Heroic Armed Forces Score More Glorious Victories in EastAsia!

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:04 | 4615088 Uncle Remus
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Gullible fucks queuing up for a second helping no doubt.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:04 | 4615089 Duude
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Did anyone expect under any circumstance at all that Obama may come out and say they failed? 

If it turns out later that fewer people are insured now than in 2013 or 2012, will this still be a "success"?

If it turns out later that premiums paid by these so-counted 7m turn out to be less than 4M, will this still be a "success"?

If it turns out later that the percentage of new enrollees under 35 is less than 30%, will this still be a "success"?

If it turns out that Insurance companies will need to be bailed out, will this still be a "success"?

If it turns out when Obamacare is fully applied to all employees (as of this date its after Obama leaves office), and insurance premiums rocket out of range of the majority of Americans, will this still be a "success"?

Are any of the above scenarios less important than the number of enrollees the administration is basing "success" on?

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:07 | 4615094 Zymurguy
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7 million simply represents those that were uninsurable or who now qualify for big subsidies + those gullible enough to sign up.

There are millions more out there that aren't signing up... and they represent the bulk of resources required by the ACA to function financially.

Essentially, the ACA is already bankrupt.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:12 | 4615102 RaymondKHessel
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Look, have you seen America lately? It's become(ing) a cesspool of lazy, FAT, sickly, poor individuals of which god-knows-how-many-are-on one type of drug or another. Dependence on this health care "tax - insurance" system is only going to continue through the roof. Fewer *good* doctors and twice!three times the patients = BAD NEWS if you really need medical attention. Take as much control as you can, lose weight, get in good shape, eat right, get debt free, work because you like the job not because you are living paycheck to paycheck paying off debt! And don't be suckered into McCrap, Coke, Cigs, processed CRAP food thats around every corner. And finally:

Buy PHYSICAL Gold !!!

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:13 | 4615108 Seasmoke
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Nigga Please !!!

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:16 | 4615116 bankonzhongguo
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Health insurance is NOT health care.

While a small minority have been able to obtain some new insurance, the ticking time bomb is affording the premium and of course the insane deductibles that will put anyone in bankruptcy.

My neighbor, a retired vet no less, had his heart meds sky-rocket because of all the new insurance fun and games.

The insidious element though is this government sponsored system is about building a killing-floor for the poor, sick and elderly.

I guess the Nazis really did win the war.

It is genocide, compliments of the political class that do not want any more competition.  They will be killing the old and the lame in the same way they abort all those little black boys and girls.

For those that drank Obama's and the Democratic Party's cyanide kool-aid, just wait until you or your parents try to actually receive "care."

The game is still the same.  Collect all the premiums and be stringy on the payouts.

The Killing Joke.

 

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 18:32 | 4615309 SDShack
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Yep, it's just like 0zer0 said during the campaign. "We can't afford to give the 100 yr old granny a pacemaker... just give her pill instead." I knew from that point forward, Death Panels were real.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:41 | 4615169 tony wilson
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my god is this the truthe

it a miracle

mission accomplex

it like when buzz light year and col  stretch armstrong landed on mars in 1969.

this is biggeror

why

cos we never went back to mars but we always gonna need vaxscenes and hospituls

i just had a vaxine injexsion for athletes neck i tolds the doctor i not an athelete he said it for the best.

i asked him what was in it he saids a spechull drug calls eugenix he says i never haves to worry abouts my neck ever again

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:41 | 4615187 HamRove
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7 MILLION YA'LL!!

So how many people have actually paid for coverage?

How many of those people are younger?

So really this don't mean shit?

Stick ACA up your ass Obama, ya dickwhistle.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:42 | 4615190 DrData02
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Who audited the count?

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 18:54 | 4615346 Winston Churchill
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Same firm that audits the FedRes. Oh wait.....

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 17:56 | 4615229 Comte d'herblay
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yay........:-(

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 18:21 | 4615263 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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And in the never let a self inflicted DDOS attack go to waste to salvage a turd department.

http://www.newsday.com/news/health/state-extends-health-insurance-deadli...

It ain't over till it's over.

Monday was the last day to sign up for health insurance with NY State of Health for coverage this year to avoid a federal tax penalty.

But the state on Friday decided to extend the enrollment period to April 15 for those people who tried to apply for health insurance by the March 31 deadline but were unable to do so through no fault of their own.

...

Where have we heard that one before? Think snake oil salesmen selling diet pills to fat slobs on the Tee Vee. It is never your fault, never your fault, never your fault, never your fault, never.........

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Meanwhile, the federal website healthcare.gov, which also has extended its deadline to April 15 for similar reasons, crashed several times Monday due to "record traffic" of 1.6 million visits before 2 p.m. The state's website was operating normally, with only "minor delays," the state said.

"The NY State of Health site is experiencing 6,500-7,000 simultaneous users in the Web portal today, which represents its highest activity to date," the state said in a statement Monday.

Donna Frescatore, executive director of NY State of Health, said the exchange was "committed" to making sure those who "have taken steps to apply before April 1, 2014," can enroll.

Acceptable reasons to the state for extending the deadline include identity issues, technological issues or customer service delays.

Certifying his identity was the issue for Marvin Mora of Port Washington. The maintenance worker originally from Guatemala said it took him five hours early Monday to get to the Nassau-Suffolk Hospital Council in Hauppauge -- designated as a "navigator" agency for enrollees -- due to the snow.

He said, via an interpreter, that his insurance through his job had been canceled, that he had phoned the state's call line to sign up and that he thought he was going to get paperwork in the mail but it never came.

Mora, 44, was told Monday that because he's in the process of applying to become a legal resident, it would take time to confirm his identity -- but it would be completed by April 15.

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That brought total enrollment in New York as of Sunday to 812,033 since the exchange's opening on Oct. 1. Of those enrollees, more than 70 percent were previously uninsured  (and currently non-residents), the state said.

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Our 3 chief weapons of extending the deadline are identity issues, technological issues, customer service delays and qualifying live events. Our 4 chief weapons of extending the deadline......

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With the exception of those individuals who tried but were unable to enroll before Monday's deadline, only those individuals and families who have a "qualifying live event" -- such as getting married or divorced, gaining a dependent, losing job insurance, or moving to the state -- could still enroll for coverage in 2014. Others without insurance face a penalty. The penalty this year is either 1 percent of one's yearly household income or $95 per person, whichever is higher.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 18:37 | 4615315 roadhazard
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Now that the first sign up is over does this mean the Kosh Bros. will stop making up BS horror stories? I'm going to miss the debunking.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 19:08 | 4615371 yochananmichael
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hopefully they'll continue telling the truth in contradistinction to the heel clicking apparatchiks of the Preatorian Media.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 19:14 | 4615388 Goldilocks
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Bioterrorism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioterrorism

Bioterrorism / Obama-terrorism is terrorism involving the intentional release or dissemination of biological agents. These agents are bacteria, viruses, or toxins, and may be in a naturally occurring or a human-modified form. For the use of this method in warfare, see biological warfare.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 19:42 | 4615482 Van Halen
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Limbaugh tore these numbers to shreds today. Chiefly, he pointed out that the AP report of 7 million signups... that came from two ANONYMOUS sources in the WHITE HOUSE. Every other media report ran with it. The LA Times numbers were from an unseen report. And finally, this is the administration that has told us the truth about oh, nothing, and now want us to believe they have seven million signups because... Obama!

And don't get me started about signups vs. paying customers or even the number of these being funneled into medicaid.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 19:45 | 4615486 MFLTucson
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I find everything about this Kenyan disgusting!  I dislike him and think he is a disgrace to the office he holds.  He is a phony, a liar, a cheater, ill equip on the economy and International situations, and he is an outright disgrace and an International disgrace to my country.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 19:53 | 4615524 dutchTender
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worst president ever ... ( in the simpson's comic book shop guy voice )

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 20:56 | 4615706 djsmps
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I would give that another 50 up arrows if I could.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 21:26 | 4615784 XitSam
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So even with subsidies, the 47 or 30 million (-7 million) people without insurance did not sign up.

Seems like a resounding vote of no confidence.

Tue, 04/01/2014 - 21:29 | 4615795 dexter_morgan
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How long till retailers start counting things put in shopping cars as 'sales'. They'd be thrown in jail for that.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 10:32 | 4617217 JeffB
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One other lie he used was about how the pro-Obamacare side overcame all of the spending by the anti-Obamacare folks trying to torpedo his plan to get affordable quality health care for all.

He spent billions advertising for his plan...

9 Crazy Ways the Left Tried to Make Obamacare Cool

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/02/us-gm-recall-delphi-idUSBREA3105R20140402

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