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Guest Post: How To Undermine Russia From Within

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Submitted by Zachary Zeck of The Diplomat,

Since Russia moved into Crimea, there has been a strong desire in the United States to “do something” to stop Vladimir Putin. The general problem, we’re told, is that there just aren’t any good options.

This strikes me as both unimaginative, on the one hand, and a great example of what Robert Gates deemed the “militarization” of American foreign policy, on the other. The reality is that there are just not any good military options for countering Russia in Ukraine, and there aren’t going to be given prevailing geography, history, and nuclear capabilities.

But just because Vladimir Putin has pursued a military strategy for achieving his political goals in Ukraine, doesn’t mean that the U.S. response has to be in the military realm. Nor does it mean that Washington is limited to boring old economic sanctions, which increasingly seem to be the only tool in America’s foreign policy toolbox in situations when military force is inappropriate.

In fact, the broad components of what could be an effective response to Putin’s annexation in Crimea are already being pursued by the U.S., albeit not in the right configuration. So far the U.S. response has mainly focused on two fronts.

The first is a public relations campaign to rally international opinion against Russia’s aggression in Ukraine.

This PR campaign began nearly immediately when Obama administration officials like John Kerry painted Russia as living in a 19th century world. It has continued ever since through high profile gestures such as the UN General Assembly Resolution denouncing the Crimea referendum, and President Obama’s excellent speech in Europe last week. The goal, as the administration has made clear, is to isolate Russia diplomatically, even as it seeks to target it economically.

However, there are two problems with this PR campaign. The first is that it is not working and unlikely to work in the future. As Ian Bremmer and the UN General Assembly vote made clear, Russia is simply too large of a player to be completely isolated, especially given that many important countries are not nearly as offended by the annexation as the United States.

The second, more serious problem with the global PR campaign is that it is aimed at the international community. This is the wrong audience since it is not the one that keeps Putin in power, which is his primary concern. Indeed, not only was the Crimea annexation popular in Russia, but trying to isolate Russia is likely to further entrench support for a nationalistic leader like Putin. The more besieged Russians feel, the more appeal Putin has at home.

Besides the global PR campaign, the U.S. has tried to pressure Russia through economic sanctions. These sanctions have been targeted at Putin’s inner circle as well as the wealthy businessmen and institutions that help prop up his rule. The logic behind this approach is that if Russia’s oligarchs fear their financial interests are being threatened, they will pressure Putin to halt and possible rollback his aggression in the Ukraine.

The problem with this approach is that they are unlikely to do this. To begin with, these men have derived their influence and wealth from their association with Putin. They have little incentive or ability to challenge Putin without undercutting themselves. Moreover, as noted above, the annexation of Crimea is extremely popular with the Russian people. This puts Russia’s oligarchs on even shakier ground in trying to confront Putin.

A better approach would be to combine the two aspects of the West’s current response. Specifically, the United States should undertake a PR campaign aimed at turning the Russian people against Putin’s inner circle and the oligarchs in Russia more generally. Done right, this can gradually undermine the legitimacy of the Russian Federation under Putin as a whole.

As is well known, Vladimir Putin’s Russia is rife with corruption at every level. Like all autocracies, this corruption can persist because information is tightly controlled to limit people’s knowledge of it. The United States and Europe have extensive means to collect information on the all the corrupt elements of the Russian Federation. By exposing this information, they would be able to gradually undercut the Russian people’s support for the system Putin has built. Of course, at any time the U.S. and Europe could agree to withhold further information if their demands on Ukraine are met.

The biggest question would be in what manner should they would distribute the information? One possibility is simply publishing government reports about corruption in Russia. I would advocate against this approach as Russians and people generally are likely to view these reports as inherently biased. A better approach would be to strategically leak the information Washington and Brussels uncover to reporters with international reach. Another possibility is that the U.S. and EU could anonymously publish the information on social media websites, much as Russia posted Victoria Nuland’s private phone conversation trashing the EU.

Whatever medium the West used to publish the information, this policy would appropriately target what Putin holds most dear—his grip on power—in a way that can effectively undermine it. It would also be fairly cheap. The larger principle should be kept in mind for future crises—namely, the U.S. and the West don’t have to respond to challenges on the terms set by the countries challenging them.

 

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Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:36 | 4619802 kchrisc
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The best way for the West to win is to not play the game. And since it's the West's game that started the whole thing, well...

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:39 | 4619811 Zest
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The west is like that annoying kid in the first grade that always wanted to follow you around everywhere you went and stick his nose in everything you did. It can't take "no" for an answer until its nose gets punched in.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:45 | 4619831 Tabarnaque
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Washington is using the Ukrainian/Crimea situation to deepen its presence in Eastern Europe with NATO forces. The creation of this new irrational fear that Russia could invade Eastern Europe (which is completely ridiculous) is used as a way to cement their alliances against Russia and the emerging BRICS monetary/financial system. Maybe I am over speculating but it seems to me that the whole Crimea situation is used as a way to justify the implementation of economic and financial sanctions against an important member of the BRICS. The Crimea situation is the justification to “shield” the Western Europe away from the emerging BRICS movement. Maybe this is the real justification behind Washington’s recent violent push in Ukraine.

 

The West knows that the USD is in trouble. They know damn well that the BRICS are actively developing a parallel system (the BRICS Development Bank, their own undersea Internet cable with a BRICS - SWIFT like wire system).

 

This coming April 10th G-20 Bretton Woods meeting in Washington is all about reforming/democratizing the IMF, the use of USD as world reserve currency and the inability of the US government to put its fiscal house back in order. Some analysts view the coming April 10th meeting as a negotiation deadline on those important issues. The deadline was set all the way back to 2010 when this round of negotiation started. Since 2010, the USA have refused to modify their position and nothing has advanced. So April 10th could prove to be a decisive date for the emergence of a BRICS parallel system.

 

We know that in the last year Washington has been trying very hard to sign TTIT and the TPP “free trade” agreement with Europe and Asia as a way to lock these nations into using the USD as their trade settlement currency for several decades to come. So far these “Free Trade” agreements haven’t been signed and the outlook for the TPP isn’t clear at all as several major players are dropping their interest in it (for obvious reasons). Those so called Free Trade Agreements would turn signatory nations into Vassal States of an all mighty Washington which is itself acting as a stooge for what really is a supranational US Corporate Power Grab.

 

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:25 | 4619956 kchrisc
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I think that you are correct and that the collapse of the Petro$ is the driving force.

It is like they have built a skyscraper of cards and are threatening or anyone that comes near it.

Sort of funny though, as they can't afford to have it collapse and can't afford to go to war to protect it. They can only wave their weapons around menacing anyone that dare come near or stage false-flags.

In the end a whiff of wind will take it down.

 

"I put a false-flag on my guillotine."

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:34 | 4619981 strannick
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The West?

What is it about Obama politics, Wall St.  economics, and relativist religion that's worth saving? 

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 03:51 | 4620310 fx
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Another crap by "the Diplomat". So laughable. Yopu can bet the CIA guys know very well how to undermine a country  - see Ukraine as the latest example. They certainly do not need your dumb advise. What they never figured out though is what to do afterwards - how to install a pro-US govt that lasts for more than a short period? Breaking things or societies apart has always been way easier than building them. But hey, for the strategists in D.C. it is likely sufficient to create trouble around Russia's borders, especially when the dumb EU pays the price.

Btw: do you "diplomatistas" actually believe the nonsense that you spill out?

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 04:25 | 4620336 BorisTheBlade
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Judging from USSR and recent US examples the best way to destabilize a country is to let its own elites screw things up beyond repairability. As far Zachary is concerned, I think he sees an opening for a job in Moscow where he could eat caviar, drink some vodka and bang chicks while telling them how bad and corrupt Putin is, thereby greatly undermining KGB regime. Moscow saw jokers like him in great numbers.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 05:52 | 4620392 jeff montanye
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taking the post's argument a bit further, how might the exposure of corruption in russia with the implied promise to limit said exposure if russia complies with u.s. wishes play in the u.s.? like the corruption itself is not such a big deal (we're all corrupt), we just want to blackmail the russians into compliance. does this solidify obama's support as obamacare rolls out?

and what of the russians?  have they any ability to retaliate and ferret out corruption in the u.s. circles of power?  i, for one, fondly hope that some ever escalating battle of forced transparency between and among the global elites is how the next world war is fought.  but somehow i doubt it will be.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 05:54 | 4620393 negative rates
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We're stuck on this one photo. And Zack, why don't you get a real job!

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 07:16 | 4620482 Confused
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This whole article assumes the Russian people have faith in the Government. So its flawed from the start. It would appear that most Russians know the system is corrupt. So it wouldn't come as a shock. 

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 10:11 | 4620995 DeadFred
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The Russians have shown a couple of times that they can break the US 'secure' phone encryption. .GOV has to assume they known of many of the skeletons in the DC closests. Anyone want to hear a phone call between two secret service agants discussing what Obama and Reggie were doing while Benghazi was [also] going down? Well Obama doesn't want you to hear it so there won't be any exposure of Russian corruption by the US. It may be okay to exchange a few nukes but the truth is far too scary to play around with.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 07:44 | 4620547 SWRichmond
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Judging from USSR and recent US examples the best way to destabilize a country is to let its own elites screw things up beyond repairability.

+1.  I am personally praying to all the gods that the Repubs actually run Jeb Bush against "I'm Ready for Hillary" (I AM sure they ARS stupid enough to do this).  This would demonstrate conclusively to a critical mass of Americans that the American political system is also corrupt beyond all repair, that there is an entrenched ruling class of oligarchs right here in the USA, served by an entrenched class of sociopathic politicians, and if they want their liberty back they're going to have to take it back FROM the repubs and dems by whatever means necessary.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:36 | 4619986 Tabarnaque
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That's the way I see it. It is all about the USD and their control of the World financial/monetary system. Anyone deviating from it has been severly punished in the past. The problem is that Russia and China are not as simple to play as Libya and Iraq were...  

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 03:15 | 4620286 Global Observer
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Don't you think the West understands it? What do you think their game plan was when they initiated it by sponsoring the coup in Ukraine?

I don't think the Western elite want to save the dollar or maintain the monetary/financial hegemony of the West. I believe they are ready for a new international financial system, but must appear to their populations as being pushed into it, rather than choosing it. Russia is playing its part in the game. 

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 06:04 | 4620402 Ghordius
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define "Western Elite". from some media, the term is synonymous with the US only. in other, it's Wall Street and the City. in theory, it should comprise both America and Europe, including Turkey

meanwhile, Tabernaque is correct: most of the G20 governments want a reform of the IMF. which includes an increase of shares of the fund

in fact, there is only one IMF member that is opposed

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 06:39 | 4620433 Global Observer
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I would define the Western Elite as those controlling the Western governments. As to the make-up of their nationalies and professions, I am not sure.

The IMF reform, proposed in 2010, got the nod from the US Senate, when it was attached to the Ukraine assistance bill and passed. Now it is with the US administration and they can support it anytime. Merely increased IMF quotas and voting power don't do the non-Western nations in the G-20 any good. I don't know if the IMF reform includes the BRIC currencies in the basket for the SDR. If it does, that will be a game-changer. Or if the SDR is made an independent fiat currency and trade settlements made in it, that too will be a game-changer. But that doesn't seem to be part of the IMF reform either, i.e, there is no official IMF documentation that states either. But if one of them is and the US gives OK to it, it will be the US voluntrily giving up its privilege as the world's reserve currency or sharing it with non-Western nations, especially Russia. Not sure how they can justify it to the public.

But if the BRICS launch their bank and currency and the Western currencies are dethroned from their pre-eminent position in international monetary system, US agreeing to IMF reform will look like a victory for the West, gaining some control back when they thought they lost it all.

So I expect the sequence of events to be 1. On April 10, the US claims it needs more time to endorse IMF reform 2. BRICS launch their bank with its currency 3. Western currencies plummet against the BRICS currency causing economic depression in the West. 4. US agrees to IMF reform with SDR as an independent fiat currency for international trade settlements.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 06:12 | 4620409 jeff montanye
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well that's certainly conspiratorial enough and it makes the state security organs look competent, but to what end?  if they don't "want to save the dollar or maintain the monetary/financial hegemony of the West", why not?  do they think having someone else run the world will be in their best interests?  why is this seemingly worldly-wise assumption, so often posited, that tptb are all-seeing and omni-competent, that they intend all the chaos and disaster that they produce, so seductive?

imo they are fallible, selfish, often critically lazy narcissists who frequently lurch from error to worse as they ride the roller coaster down from the pinnacle reached when the u.s. found itself on the winning side of ww2 with all its factories and most of its labor force intact and its main competitors either destroyed, in part or in whole, and/or tied to an unworkable economic "communism" or "socialism". 

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 06:59 | 4620458 Global Observer
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It is conspiratorial for sure, but it means the exact opposite of omni-potence. If they were omni-potent they would be able to protect the US$ and international monetary hegemony. Because they are not omni-potent is why they have to concede space to the elite of the emerging economies. But they cannot appear to be conceding ground voluntarily, since such a concession will be disastrous for Western economies. The concession has to appear inevitable, which it is, but something Western middle class is loathe to admit. Hence the conspiracy to effect the concession.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 08:06 | 4620583 insect0man
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unworkable economic "communism" or "socialism".

 

As opposed to the rainbow corporate fascist collectives presently masquerading as "businesses"?

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:27 | 4619964 Latina Lover
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To the writer of the Diplomat:

 

As is well known,Obama's USA and the EU is rife with corruption at every level. Like all autocracies, this corruption can persist because information is tightly controlled to limit people’s knowledge of it. Russia, China and the BRIC's extensive means to collect information on the all the corrupt elements of the Western powers. By exposing this information, they would be able to gradually undercut the American and European people’s support for the system the western banksters have built. Of course, at any time Russia, China etc could agree to withhold further information if their demands not being attacked via color revolutions are met.

 

There, fixed for you asshole.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:38 | 4619990 Tabarnaque
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Lol! Thanks!

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 00:22 | 4620072 HurricaneSeason
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The reason for bombing Syria is Iran and the reason for overthrowing the Ukraine is Iran and the trouble with Russia, Israel and the Saudis is Iran.

Putin was going to give Iran missiles and that stopped the planned bombing of Syria.  Israel and the Saudis are furious.  They wanted to take those Russian bases that were leased until 2042 and line missiles all along the Russian/Ukraine border and go back to the bombing Syria/Iran plan.

The military industrial complex needs another war. They could have offered to not place NATO missiles or give the Russian bases back in Crimea (if the Ukraine overthrow had went as planned) in exchange for bombing rights for Syria and hope to draw Iran in. Instead massive bills in Ukraine will need to be paid and Obama will keep begging for a Ukraine redo. Ukraine is over.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 06:20 | 4620416 jeff montanye
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the military industrial complex needs another war like a weasel needs another meal.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 08:10 | 4620587 insect0man
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What's more profitable: to maintain an infrastructure - or to rebuild it?

Who does the rebuilding?

That's an often unrecognized tentacle of the so-called military industrial complex.

It's a calculated part of the cycle described in Romans 1:25+

Are we there yet, again?

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 07:20 | 4620484 Reptil
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YES!

Add to this the piece: "Shale Gas" and the puzzle is complete.
It has several "advantages":
- it makes the receiving country dependent on this puff of fossile fuel (geopolitical) in the capable hands of Chevron of course.
- It makes the development of renewables and alternatives (Polywell fusion!) less attractive politically (financially it's in practical terms not an issue)

- It totally fucks up the recieving region's groundwater and/or available aquifers like it did in the USA (a blind spot for most yanks). Forever.
- And of course it messes with Gazprom's natural gas imports to europe, diminishing the political resistance to a more agressive approach towards it's soon to be former energy supplier.

I'd pose that the coming two years are going to be crucial for the next 50, maybe more, as the big choices are being made. That's why these fuckers are in such a hurry. They themselves know the petro-dollar game is almost up, as you said.

Obama was pushing it like a used car salesman, along with the TTIP-Tafta (which is, according to him, good for small and medium business).
The problem they have right now is that the europeans are looking at what happened (for the first time it seems) both NAFTA and Shale Gas in the US. And, apart from Romania and Bulgaria (utterly corrupt leadership), they ain't liking it much.

Here's Kerry with the big lie, that he sneakily sneaks in, that NATO is somehow "obliged to help it's partner Ukraine". Article 5 is NOT on the table, since Ukraine is NOT a NATO member. But Kerry is, like Obama, wading in disinfo shit and calling it anyway.
Bonus is the Quatar boys from Al Jazeera smearing another coat of lies on top, that Russia "invaded" Crimea. (it gets old really quick)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEBk03pbgR8

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:49 | 4619851 Canadian Dirtlump
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Indeed. Who the fuck is this troll. You need to have an iq below room temperature to be rooting for the west.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:56 | 4619873 fonzannoon
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My russian in laws have no dog in this fight. they still thank god every day they were able to make it here. They are so thankful for what they have and before every meal they make a speech (all russians make speeches, for such quiet people they never stfu at meal time) about how they hope and pray where they live never turns into where they ran from. They know the deal.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:08 | 4619905 TahoeBilly2012
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"How To Help The Zionists Acheive One World Order" (by some dumshit 'Merican). You can help by not helping.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 04:50 | 4620355 disabledvet
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This comment is in fact a total falsehood.
Going into Russia "is not the droids you are looking for."

Having said that the enormity of the value of this piece of real estate cannot be over-stated.

Will the Russians defend? We've given them free reign for twenty years now...and a very valuable economy has been the result. Losing Ukraine would be a crushing blow to a "Eurasian Empire."

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 06:26 | 4620423 jeff montanye
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"we've given them free reign (sic, rein) for twenty years"? by only advising them to collapse their economy imf style and not bombing them like we do so many other countries?  damn we're nice.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:09 | 4619913 Dr. Engali
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That's a sad statement. As bad as things are getting here, it's no better any place else. Government .... I hate it.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:12 | 4619920 fonzannoon
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It definitely is, and it's what all the Putin ballsack suckers on here minsunderstand. Thinking they have to pick a side. 

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 06:00 | 4620398 negative rates
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Yea but they use up their jaw bone trying to get rid of the pain in the neck they have become.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 06:34 | 4620429 jeff montanye
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no no no.  that the u.s. is a better place to live than russia is not not not owing to the work of the u.s. government over the last (pick your starting point) nor to the wall street power brokers that, in part, own it.  it is due to the excellent work done by better men and women, some of them actually in government and even on wall street (not too many of the latter, imo) in prior times and other, less heralded people more recently.  it is the evil actions of the recent pretenders to power in the u.s. that are the problem.

russia is no paradise and putin no savior, but right now he is damn useful in bringing some rough justice to these utter pricks that have highjacked what once was a reasonably good argument for constitutional democracy and free enterprise.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 07:24 | 4620483 johny2
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fonzy,

in usa you get better deal on your fast foods, car and other toys. it is mainly thanks to the system where resources and labour are taken at low price often accomanied by the presence of usa manifactured loaded arms. sure it is possible we should all thank the system in which we are higher up on the pyramid scheme. still some of us would like to think it is better to have less materal goods in order to have more of dignity. 

enjoy your high level of living standards, but spare a thought sometimes that it may be thanks to 100 of others humans being lower in the pyramid.

and this time i saved some time and only checked writter of the article, skipping it and going straight to comment section to see if some good information or insight can be found. 

zh posting diplomat crap is a sign end of the timeline is near?

 

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 07:29 | 4620505 fonzannoon
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Johny I hear you man. When I say my russian in laws are thankful, I think they are just thankful in a genuine sense that they are able to have a better standard of living here. They don't understand the system enough to realize why they have it better. If they did they would realize that their fears of it deteriorating into the system they ran away from is already well under way. These people are really old and there is just no reason to attempt to point this out to them.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 07:37 | 4620526 johny2
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I understand your care for relatives and I even understand the point of the view where it is looking after number 1 always the first priority.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 09:11 | 4620786 flapdoodle
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One has to be very careful on the topic of "standard of living". Having traveled extensively through many countries, my own opinion of the "standard of living" puts the US quite a bit lower on the scale than would most Americans.

Fast food joints and strip malls, poor quality, highly processed and nutrient poor food, 512 channel cable TV and hobbies do not IMHO make for much of a life...

 

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 09:22 | 4620787 flapdoodle
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One has to be very careful on the topic of "standard of living". Having traveled extensively through many countries, my own opinion of the "standard of living" puts the US quite a bit lower on the scale than would most Americans.

Fast food joints and strip malls, poor quality, highly processed and nutrient poor food, 512 channel cable TV, cheap electronic gadgets, hobbies and video games do not IMHO make for much of a life...

 

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 10:32 | 4621049 johny2
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i agree about #living standards# being a very wide meaning term. The point is mainly that society is the pyramid scheme. us citizens are on a higher level than those in africa, asia, s. america, regarding the energy input and energu output, generally speaking.

the other point is: what are articles from diplomat doing on zh? i know i am just the reader and one of many, but still can ask the question many other readers do as well.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 00:19 | 4620066 dogismycopilot
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i studied soviet military history for a very long time and was brainwashed to hate all "Russkies" and to want to "kill communists" from cradle to my late 20s - i mean, can you beleive this shit IN THE 1980s I ONCE SENT A CARE PACKAGE TO THE MUJAHADEEN AS AN 11 YEAR OLD TO KILL GODLESS COMMUNISTS!

lucky me, the cold war ended. I left the military. pulled my head out of my ass. i went to b-school, started travelling and meeting Russians without the intent of killing them and guess what? THEY'RE NORMAL PEOPLE AND NOT TO DISSIMILAR FROM AMERICANS IN FACT I FIND THEM QUITE MORE INTELLIGENT THAN MANY AMERICANS.

regrettably for your in-laws, the Soviet Politbureau has followed them to America. Obama & Co. 

you can run, but you can't hide. 

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 00:40 | 4620091 Anusocracy
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Glad you were intellectually capable of saving yourself. I wish more people were like that.

BTW, is that a Jack Russell?

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 06:39 | 4620434 jeff montanye
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also congrats.  now to be able to see bush,etc. and co. as the professional wrestling opponent/business partner that they are.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 09:17 | 4620809 drendebe10
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Gummint: ctrl-alt-del

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 07:09 | 4620470 Global Observer
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It is quite possible they hoped and prayed for things to stay the same or get better in Russia just before they collapsed.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:58 | 4619880 the phantom
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I stopped reading after, ----" ever since through high profile gestures such as the UN General Assembly Resolution denouncing the Crimea referendum, and President Obama’s excellent speech in Europe last week."

So a non-sequitor of "nukes going off in Manhattan" is a great  speech?  I thought it was terrible.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:15 | 4619917 AlaricBalth
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The authors name in Zachary Keck, not Zachary Zeck and he is still a grad student at George Mason University. Formerly interned for John Nagl, a lifetime CFR member, at the Center for New American Security. Young Zachary is still quite impressionable and is clearly trying to fast track himself into the ranks of the foreign policy elite. The only way to achieve his goals is to ingratiate himself to the powers that be, and just maybe he will receive a coveted nomination to CFR.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:28 | 4619953 HardAssets
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Thanks for the intel on the author.

That's just great . . . another brown nose in training.

The real American patriot George Mason ('Father of the US Bill of Rights") is probably spinning in his grave if this is what they are turning out from his namesake today.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 03:21 | 4620290 IronForge
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No wonder...

GMU and Georgetown (regrettably, my Brother's Alma Mater)

Too close to the Capital to not be affected by all the Special Interest/Dominionist Scheming

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 04:17 | 4620330 JR
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Yes, not only did Zachary Keck intern at the Center for a New American Security (CNAS), he interned "in the U.S. Congress where he worked on defense issues."

Perhaps a better headline for Zeck’s article is “How to Undermine America From Within.”

http://thediplomat.com/authors/zachary-keck/

CNAS is the left-wing branch of the right-wing warmongering neocons. It exists to stamp out individual thinking, “the gravest sin in the Communist pantheon,” in tandem with the neocon collectivist propaganda to draw the US into “endless military intervention in the Middle East, with the only differences being tactical.”

Justin Raimondo, in a hard hitting May 2009 column, “The New Neocons,” uncovers the dark roots of the CNAS that underlie Zeck’s “training ground.” Writes Raimondo:

“These ‘national security Democrats,’ as they defensively called themselves… replicated the neocon strategy, first, with a think-tank: the Center for a New American Security, founded in 2007 and funded, as the Wall Street Journal reports, by 'foundations such as the Rockefeller Brothers Fund,' as well as 'some government money to study particular issues'…

“Ready with their policy prescriptions when the Obamaites were swept into power, CNAS personnel flooded into the new administration (John Podesta, head of the Obama transition team, is on the CNAS board).

“Groups like CNAS are financed to the hilt by big corporate interests and the politically connected plutocrats who profit from war and our foreign policy of global intervention. Their intellectual handmaidens in the growing constellation of left-neocon Washington outfits are nothing but the latest window-dressing for the same warmongering, corporatist agenda.”

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2009/05/12/the-new-neocons/

Zeck also writes a monthly column for The National Interest, which today features  an article on Why Palestine Must Recognize Israel as a Jewish State by Chuck Freilich,  a former Deputy National Security Advisor in Israel and now a  Senior Fellow at Harvard's Kennedy school).

http://nationalinterest.org/commentary/why-palestine-must-recognize-isra...

But then again as Zachary Keck states, perhaps as a disclaimer: “I was raised both Catholic and Jewish and I turned out quite well.... especially in the month of December.”

https://twitter.com/ZacharyKeck/status/375654812781514753

With the inception of the CNAS, Raimondo summarizes the political conformity of the War Party’s Zampolit (political police): “The left wing of the War Party raises its ugly head.”

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 04:46 | 4620353 Aussie V
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Someone should post a snail mail letter to Zach.

Someone should pretend to be a Russian Agent with a Pen loaded with Polonium.

Informing Zach he is now a marked man after writing his opinion piece of "How to unseat our President Putin"

One wonders how courageous Zach would then be with his writings of how to destabilize a foreign democratic country when a polonium poke is only a step away??

I can dream can't I??

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 06:51 | 4620443 jeff montanye
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indeed.  wish the big boys (cheney? scalia?) and girls (feinstein?) really had some skin in the game.  first a war of forced transparency, each revealing an even deeper, darker secret of the other (hey kgb, how much real, unencumbered gold is in fort knox/ny fed?  what really happened on 9-11?) followed by a round or two of state security elites mutual assassinations.

why can't war be made better?

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 05:07 | 4620362 Optimusprime
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Thanks for the background.  The question remains, why does ZH offer such a nincompoop a sounding board?

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 07:27 | 4620496 Confused
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Alternate opinion (no matter how shitty) keeps us from operating in an echo chamber.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 07:32 | 4620512 actionjacksonbrownie
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Know thy enemy

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 15:20 | 4622232 HardAssets
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Plus you get lots of additional evidence and devastating counter arguments by reading peoples replies to this baby neo-con's article.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:18 | 4619932 Anusocracy
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The West in general, and the US in particular is just riddled with these cancerous psychopathic assholes.

The solution to the problems of the coup in Ukraine is a coup in Russia? What the hell is wrong with these inhuman bastards?

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 09:21 | 4620820 drendebe10
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In the same sentence having the arrogant narcissist lying illegal alien kenyan muslim sociooathic ignoramus fudge packer in chief with "excellent" is cleatly an oxymoron. 

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:25 | 4619933 HardAssets
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delete

 

point already mentioned

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 08:14 | 4620595 insect0man
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Tell us, Canukitard,  why did the Putin's Soviet masters have to build a wall to keep their state-owned human property from pursuing happiness elsewhere?

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:50 | 4619855 Stuck on Zero
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The West needs to get its own house in order before trying to destabilize someone elses.  Try cutting back deficits, corruption, spying, war mongering, and totalitarian control. 

After all that then stay away.  Russia has Snowden.  It's like the ultimate weapon against the West.  A weapon that could topple our corrupt governments.

 

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 01:19 | 4620158 TahoeBilly2012
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The West has no plan to get any HOUSE IN ORDER. The plan from here out will be a BLIZTKRIEG of BULLSHIT, war, cyber war, coups and police state here at home. Stop dreaming and start prepping.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 06:38 | 4620432 doctor10
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Come on ZZ-its not that hard-just let a few Western Bankers have their way with Russia for a few years. Mebbe find an Obama for them to play with as well.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:36 | 4619805 Soul Glow
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WAR IS NOT THE ANSWER

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:54 | 4619862 Ignatius
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SEX is not the answer.  Sex is the question.  "Yes" is the answer.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 08:16 | 4620600 insect0man
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Why was the demoralization of their opponents always a strategic objective in the Soviet doctrine for psychological warfare?

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 00:38 | 4619806 SilverIsKing
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Just introduce Obamacare in Russia but call it Putincare. That will do the trick.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:36 | 4619807 RaceToTheBottom
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Raw meat for the Putin Man Crush club

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:59 | 4619887 Ignatius
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Zachary Zeck is a cunt.

How 'bout we apply this 'clever strategy' here in the US first?

I'm sure the CIA will be knocking down Zeck's door praying he'll take the job.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:36 | 4619808 Zest
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It's a sad time when reality is discerned through PR campaigns rather than... reality.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:38 | 4619809 TN Jed
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That doesn't seem very "Diplomatic", Zach, nor smart.  So you suggest the US should expose their corruption while hosting Edward Snowden?  You know what, go for it dude.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:39 | 4619812 suteibu
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Yes, the only solution for the problems created by interfering with the internal politics in the Ukraine is to interfere with the internal politics in Russia. 

Don't jackasses like Zeck (and the US FP "experts') ever learn?

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:39 | 4619813 linniepar
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Corrupt exposing corruption via social propaganda.  Good luck.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:07 | 4619906 nickels
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It's called "pulling a Snowden" only with real blackmail involved.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:41 | 4619814 LetThemEatRand
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"As is well known, Vladimir Putin’s Russia is rife with corruption at every level. Like all autocracies, this corruption can persist because information is tightly controlled to limit people’s knowledge of it."

So The Diplomat is jealous?  Oligarch bitch fight.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:43 | 4619829 grunk
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The Russian populace is busy watching Honey Boosky Boosky.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 07:31 | 4620508 Confused
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It would be foolish to think the Russian population is unaware of the corruption. I doubt very much that with the collapse of the Soviet Union everyone suddenly believed the State was on the up and up. 

 

But hey, I could be wrong. Although according to the author, the corruption is well known, yet not. So............

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 08:25 | 4620625 insect0man
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I doubt very much that with the collapse of the Soviet Union everyone suddenly believed the State was on the up and up.

 

Meanwhile the American Generation XBox McSheeple can't articulate what differentiated the Soviet Union from America - or why the Soviets had to build a wall to keep their bipedal state property from pursuing happiness elsewhere.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 08:22 | 4620616 insect0man
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And the American McSheeple are busy watching American Idol and Dancing with the Starz in between commercials for Viagra, Sleeping pills, and Depends.

 

In either case, the end-result of the technocracy's self-worship is predictable: 

"...and because of this, God gave them over..."--Romans 1:25+

 

Are we there yet?

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 09:25 | 4620830 flapdoodle
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More likely the Russians populace is busy watching a war melodrama where the Russian Army is kicking French or German ass...

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:40 | 4619815 Pressfiretostart
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This is the most stupid article I have ever read in my entire life.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:45 | 4619836 pods
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I read the whole thing waiting for the punch line.

Like fonz says, makes your skin crawl.

Nobody gives a rat's ass about the lives ruined by all of this?  Just more debt serfs under western bankers control.

Makes me sad really.  

pods

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:40 | 4619816 grunk
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The U.S. government is going beat Putin by pointing out Russian corruption?

Governments that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:40 | 4619817 Buckaroo Banzai
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Nice idea, but if you knew anything about Russian culture, they are accustomed to highly authoritarian rule.

They are willing to overlook a little corruption as long as order is maintained, the general level of prosperity is raised, and the common man is generally left alone.

As far as undermining Putin goes, I'd suggest that once again, he is many moves ahead of us.

After all, there is evidence that he may have been responsible for creating Barack Hussein Obama.

"What if I told you that you will have a black president very soon and he will be a Communist?"
 
The out-of-the-blue remark was met by our stares. She continued, "Well, you will; and he will be a Communist."

http://www.rense.com/general84/brck.htm

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:41 | 4619820 fonzannoon
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this article makes my skin crawl. 

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:00 | 4619886 Dr. Engali
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Fucking diplomat garbage. " president Obama's excellent speech" tells you everything you need to know.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:27 | 4619965 Tabarnaque
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Agreed. This article is a horrible piece of crap. Surprised to see that on ZeroHedge.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 00:49 | 4620101 MsCreant
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You guys don't get it. You are too smart for this. Tylers post it all, you decide for yourself. As it should be.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 04:02 | 4620321 jefferson32
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So let Tylers post the legacy media's daily articles about the colour of Justin Bieber's feces too.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 06:02 | 4620400 negative rates
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I agree, there is a limit on what needs to said, and believed.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:27 | 4619948 Al Huxley
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This article represents deep thinking in the co-opted and indoctrinated Main Stream intelligensia (or its just pure fucking propaganda, take you're pick).  Not to restate my other post on this thread, but maybe if the'west' stopped spying on its own people, killing civilians with drones, imprisoning people indefinitely without trial, staging false flag attacks, supporting corrupt dictators, ... should I go on.... maybe then Putin wouldn't have such an edge in the propaganda war.  EDIT lets not forget 'selling society out to the fucking bankers, and guaranteeing a life of debt servitude for the rest of the population' - they might have to cut that shit out as well.

 

Zach, are you unaware of all this shit, or do you just think it's irrelevant, or were you just hoping your readers were unaware?

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:30 | 4619971 Tabarnaque
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Well said!

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:41 | 4619822 F0ster
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Just back the Dollar with gold. 

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 00:01 | 4620041 slightlyskeptical
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Just back the dollar with the productivity of the nation. Print it into existence instead of borrowing it. Convince the rest of the world to do the same. Replace the income tax with a wealth tax to keep things from getting too far out of equilibrium. Eliminate fractional reserve banking. Ban trading of commodities by anyone except producers and end users. The rest will take care of itself.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:41 | 4619823 pods
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How about we stay the flying fuck out of other peoples' business?

pods 

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:42 | 4619826 DOGGONE
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USA: The Public Be Suckered
http://patrick.net/forum/?p=1230886

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:44 | 4619832 paddyirishman
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Not until a man can marry his cat and a tranny can call itself michelle will the western controlled zionest countries be happy, oops did I say that out loud, oh well more 'koolaid' for me please.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:55 | 4619869 linniepar
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Or Chelsea... 

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:44 | 4619833 peaceful
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article sucks...he'd have a better chance calling in the batman

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:46 | 4619838 madmax1965
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As is well known, Vladimir Putin’s Russia is rife with corruption at every level.  Um yeah, no shit! and the USSA is not?  You sir are a TOOL!

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:53 | 4619839 Dr. Engali
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Damn, fuck you Zachery. How about this? It's none of our business. We can't keep a shooting from happening on a fucking military base that we knew was going to happen ahead of time, and we want to run the world? We have been invading and bombing nations at will and you are worried because Russia annexed a piece of land that belonged to them for a couple hundred years. The hypocrisy is breath taking.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 06:03 | 4620401 negative rates
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But we can spend money to make sure it never happens again.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:46 | 4619840 pain_and_soros
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One big problem with the article...

the US now rivals Russia in terms of corruption & their economy is also run by cronyism, yet the US still wants to claim the "high road"....

sadly, the people of the US could truly change things, but they're too busy watching American Idol and checking for the latest Justin Bieber tweets to notice.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:50 | 4619845 JuliaS
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Who are these rubbish-spreading cocksuckers who've infiltrated ZH? This used to be a nice community of like-minded individuals. First bitcoin pumping and now this warmongering bullshit!

I demand an explanation, Tyler.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:06 | 4619904 bonin006
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I suspect these types of things are published here so we know what the enemy is up to.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 00:54 | 4620115 MsCreant
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I said the same up thread. Publish the points of view that make an effort to justify themselves, leave it up to us to decide. Either your readers can sort it out, or not. 

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 09:55 | 4620940 Confused
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Everyone loves an echo chamber. It validates. Head up. You were right. Most are smart enough to know the "why." The rest will come along. 

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:08 | 4619909 The Joker
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I second the motion.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:49 | 4619847 Seize Mars
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Well I like the creativity of the premise of the article. But I do not think there is any chance at all that the kremlin hasn't thought their way through this already. Besides, when did a dictator ever give a fuck about public opinion? If that mattered, the us congress would stop getting reelected and the TOTUS would be impeached and jailed. Hence it doesn't matter.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:15 | 4619927 Terminus C
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This chuckle head does not have an original thought in his CNN sourced, gelatinous goo filled skull cavity. He has merely copied Russia's diplomatic plays and suggested the USSA try and copy them.

Day late and a dollar short, fuck nut.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 07:57 | 4624255 Seize Mars
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+1

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:49 | 4619848 SilverCoinLover
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"President Obama’s excellent speech in Europe last week."

Really? Wasn't that the one where nobody applauded?

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:52 | 4619859 RevRex
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That's right where I stopped reading!

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:49 | 4619849 Relentless101
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Russian facebook accounts created by the NSA to destroy within... Facebook gets more "real users" and therefore more advertisers poor money into selling products to people and clicks that don't fucking exist. And I'm thinkin of a master plan...

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:52 | 4619857 lasvegaspersona
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The government needs a PR effort here in the US first. I talk to more than a handful of normal adults daily and most people know the government is keeping 2 sets of books and not being truthful about the economy at a minimum and many suspect they jusy don't remember how to tell the truth. Before they start to BS the Ruskie people (who. if I understand correctly, have incredible BS meters after 50 years of the Soviet) they should begin at home.

But they won't.... so even if they convince Russian voters that Vlad is Satan they still have to deal with the fact they have lost the trust of the American people. Maybe then someone would begin to listen to their message.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 04:46 | 4620352 jmcadg
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Couldn't have said it better myself.

The US.gov doing a PR campaign to discredit Russia - has this guy seen any of their current PR campaigns, like ummm Obamacare? Frat boys and slags.

They'd have better luck rolling in a Trojan Horse ... silly me he's already been tried!!!

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:54 | 4619864 Azwethinkweiz
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This was an article from The Onion? Right? It had me cracking up.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:56 | 4619870 Cast Iron Skillet
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what a bullshit article. We should not be trying to "undermine" people in other countries. The whole Ukraine thing is none of our business.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:56 | 4619871 The_Prisoner
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Hay Zach, here's a thought exercise for you.

How do we prevent the zionist state from destroying the world in name of realising their dreams of world domination?

Sounds like a worthy exercise for a dimplomatic mind such as yours.

Shalom.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:56 | 4619874 Dr. Engali
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President Obama's excellent speech? April fools' day was yesterday Tyler.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:01 | 4619890 fonzannoon
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sometimes I wonder if Tyler is thinking "If you guys don't need a sarc tag then why do I?"

maybe I am giving him too much credit?

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:04 | 4619897 Dr. Engali
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Click bait that riles up the natives. It's a twofer for Tyler.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:08 | 4619910 fonzannoon
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yeah that sounds accurate Doc.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 00:14 | 4620056 TahoeBilly2012
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The entire Ukraine/Syria operation is soooo obviously Cabal driven and nothing to do with Obama or Congress. It's just amazing to watch the ass clowns dance and then people back up the bullshit with articles like these, when anyone with a brain knows this is all a big ZIONIST puppet show. What, is there some dude, maybe a 4 foot midget, named REDCHILD, who comes on a screen and starts screaming marching orders at everyone and we just don't know about it....YET? It's so fucking WIZARD OF OZ, who on earth buys this crap anymore? Maybe the guy actuallY cuts in LIVE on Barry's telepromter "DONT SAY THAT YOU MORON, DO YOU WANT ME TO EAT YOUR DAUGHTERS FOR DINNER TONIGHT?"

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 09:32 | 4620871 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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there ain't actors without a script.... 

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:02 | 4619894 lasvegaspersona
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although a spit fight between Obama and Putin might be entertaining....

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:05 | 4619895 Cabreado
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Pretentiousness is a big part of how we got here.

(speaking of the article)

Notice how once it gains a footing, it is self-fulfilling...

 

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:05 | 4619898 Bastiat
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Saw the headline, figured it was The Diplomat. 

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:06 | 4619903 dizzyfingers
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"As is well known, Vladimir Putin’s Russia is rife with corruption at every level. Like all autocracies, this corruption can persist because information is tightly controlled to limit people’s knowledge of it."

So....just like USA. Pot, meet kettle.

Does Putin kill citizens with drones? Just wondered.

"Submitted by Zachary Zeck of The Diplomat,'

Who are you?!

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:11 | 4619908 UrbanMiner
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A western PR campaign is going to displace Putin? Who is this Diplomat, and what grade school do they attend? The western interventionists and their financial apparatus were the primary force behind the implosion of social order in what was known as the Soviet Union. The oligarchs that so many seem to associate with Putin were 'chosenite' puppets dancing to the tune played by the hidden world power Zion, it was not Putin that created the framework of exploitation under which the oligarchs raped and pillaged the economy. The media was already under the heel of the oligarchs before the rise of Putin, and corruption was a magnitude greater than it is now, yet somehow under improving overall conditions in Russia as a whole the Russian people are supposed to be rallied to dump their leader? For what, or who will they do this for? For the return of chaos and anarchy? 

Do these self proclaimed analysts even understand the people they are analyzing? Or are they simply blinded by their desire to be right in their own minds? Russia is in a state of improvement, every indicator reveals this. Is there corruption is Russia? Of course, and it is much less refined than the corruption that takes place in America, therefore more visible to the people. The trajectory of justice in Russia at the level of the everyday person has improved measurably over the past decade, it will take perhaps another decade to instill within the fabric of society a new vehement denial of corruption such that it is no longer even a reference point for acceptable behavior, Putin recognizes this, he also recognizes the threats the country faces from external powers that wish for not only his demise, but also the demise of his people. I wrote this a few days ago, it provides a bit of context within which we can better understand Russia, and its role in history:


......Putin is a Russian nationalist, Obama is a puppet of Zion. Putin represents Russia's interests, Obama represents the interests of a financial cabal. 

The move on Crimea was something Russia had no choice but to undertake, they were not going to lose access to their naval fleet, and they were not going to allow NATO to take it over. This is about Zion looking to set up the kill shot on their old arch enemy, the Eastern Orthodox Christian population of Russia. Period. Energy transit routes are secondary, everyone needs the energy, so it will flow, this is about containing Russia and reducing it finally to a client state with no ability to defend itself from civilizational extinction.

Why is Russia's population in decline? Who implemented and installed Bolshevism on the Russian people? What was the Russian White Army and why did they lose to the Bolsheviks?

There are people who want Russia decimated, for reasons that would take days to discuss, all this chatter about Russian imperialism, Russian aggression and so on is truly, in every sense of the word, Orwellian. Forget Stalin, and the Reds, these were overlays upon the Russian people. These were not Russian, they were social experiments imposed upon the Russian people, by the hand of Zion.

The cornerstone of the Christian world and the morality that allowed the movement away from tribalism stems from the teachings of Christ. Whether religious or not, the current of Christian thought was like a light upon the world, no matter how misrepresented it might have been from time to time and place to place.

Today the true home of Christianity is not in the corruption of Rome, it left Rome for Byzantium almost 1700 years ago and maintained a relative harmony and strength for over a thousand years surviving wave after wave of Rome's Crusader armies until the Ottomans, under the hand of their money masters, finally brought it down. Today we see the replication of that struggle, with the destruction via economic and military means of all countries carrying the banner of Eastern Orthodox faith (the remnant of Byzantium), a faith which is the primary buffer to global hegemony by the powers of Zion.

Russia, Ukraine, Greece, Serbia, Armenia, Cyprus, Georgia, etc all Eastern Orthodox, have endured and still experience extreme pressure under the powers of Zion. They must be crushed into social extinction/submission. Russia is by far the biggest thorn. The other thorn to Zion is rational Islam - see Syria, Libya, Iraq, Iran, etc. - a pattern emerges. In those nations with no real lasting moral fabric (atheist populations), no social cohesion to protect against massive immigration, and no obstacles to economic control there is 'prosperity' and 'freedom', like the United States, Britain, Canada, Sweden, France....

Yet despite the temporary 'freedoms' enjoyed' under the beneficence of the money masters of Zion, the morally bankrupt western nations are falling headlong into a spiritual blackhole, subsumed by techno-atheistic thinking, heading inevitably to their complete control under a Brave New World scenario dreamt into reality by Zion and their Rabid Messianic genius.

The hate is on for Russia and Russians, nothing new here, but don't be fooled by the external appearance, this is a conflict going back centuries, and it is coming to a climax real soon. 


Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:17 | 4619931 The Joker
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I'm an athiest and I agree with almost everything you just said.  Only because the world is driven by religious divisions.  Atheism doesn't drive it, it's secondary.  Interesting how your religious logic lines up with the petrodollar, almost square for square.  All i can say is all you fucking squares better say your fucking prayers. 

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:37 | 4619988 UrbanMiner
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Atheism is nihilism, which as a choice is completely within your power to entertain, though I suggest that when you are dying, or should I say as you are dying and your consciousness begins to wane from this dimension to the others parked beside you, you'll understand the complete fallacy of your entire belief construct. Without an understanding of the other dimensions of reality, which we as a species call the 'spiritual', your entire worldview is prone to listlessness and meaningless production.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 00:03 | 4620042 TahoeBilly2012
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Well said Urban, well said. US has been tricked into our nihlism as Russia finds faith, making this article disgusting. How can we make the rest of the world a senseless pit of despair like us....they actually pull this mantra off all day long.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 00:16 | 4620063 UrbanMiner
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How can we make the rest of the world a senseless pit of despair like us....they actually pull this mantra off all day long. - TahoeBilly2012

It's not 'we' if you are not involved! Beware the language traps....But yes the goal is a planet of people devoid of meaning cemented into a total and complete experience of despair. 

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 00:20 | 4620068 TahoeBilly2012
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I meant to paraphrase what people out to get Putin are doing without even knowing it, but I also respect being careful about associating ourselves in any way, with what is actually Satanic, so point taken.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 01:02 | 4620130 The Joker
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Atheism is nihilism?  Really?  You, Urbanminer, have some learning to do.  Atheism is not a rejection of laws and authority.  It doesn't promot anarchy.  Atheists simply are not theists, that is we don't believe in God, that's it.  Most religions on Earth are Atheistic, Eastern religions in particular.  There are theists, of judeo-christianity and atheists, of every thing else.  You categorize atheists into a specific group or belief becaus thats not what we are.  I don't believe in an invisible man in the sky, that's the extent of it.  That doesn't mean I call for anarchy or lawlessness.  Also, I'm very productive :)  You don't have to believe there is a God in order to be productive.  Oh, sorry, that's a joke right?

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 01:51 | 4620193 UrbanMiner
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Nihilism (; from the Latin nihil, nothing) is a philosophical doctrine that suggests the negation of one or more putatively meaningful aspects of life. Most commonly, nihilism is presented in the form of existential nihilism, which argues that life is without objective meaning, purpose, or intrinsic value.

You may have all the order you desire, you can even have machines delineate that order for you, but without a recognition of the 'spiritual' domains outside your perceived material reality you are as a rule forced into a nihilistic perception, due simply to the fact that you are observing life in an incomplete way. I am not defining anything, for an atheist in itself is a definition of belief - you have defined yourself as someone who does not recognize a higher order being. You do not believe in a 'god' or 'gods', that is how you view the atheistic definition, but I will take it further and infer that you do not believe in beings that exist outside your perception. What I am saying is this belief, usually an amalgam of strict scientific materialism is incorrect. If you are the rare atheist that can be open to life beyond your current perception, than you would naturally be forced to question your beliefs in their entirety, since the context of the word 'gods' takes on a whole new meaning. 

 

Some medieval Christian mystics argued that it is incorrect to say that God exists, because existence amounts to taking a particular form within a space of time. God has no particular form and is outside of time. Therefore, God does not exist. However, God is. That's an argument that many of us atheistic Buddhists can appreciate. -http://buddhism.about.com/od/basicbuddhistteachings/a/buddhaatheism.htm

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 02:07 | 4620206 The Joker
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Wow.  You're really hung up on this aren't you.  It's ok.  You can believe what you want without validation of others' beliefs.

I could argue that it is theists that are nihilists in that they (you) are negligent of this life because you are so focused on your afterlife.  To the contrary atheists hold EVERYTHING in this life to be valuable because we know this is our one shot at making it good.

 

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 02:15 | 4620216 UrbanMiner
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Good luck with your one shot! I hope it works out for you.

Cheers

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 02:44 | 4620260 The Joker
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Thanks.  so far so good.  And please try to remember in your quest to get to heaven that it will do you children and grandchildren well if you promote the well-being of the planet, instead of insisting that it is here for our exploitation.  Mathew 24.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 11:08 | 4621201 Boxed Merlot
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promote the well-being of the planet,...  Mathew 24...

 

On the other hand, (and only because you brought up a scriptural reference), consider: 

"But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.

Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat!  But according to His promise we are looking for new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells."---2 Peter 3:10-13

 

70-80 orbits around the sun ain't nothin in comparison to eternity.

jmo.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 09:18 | 4620812 insect0man
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Religion is a created thing.

Read Romans 1:25+ to observed the natural consequences when a culture begins to religiously worship itself.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 09:16 | 4620797 insect0man
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Only because the world is driven by religious divisions.

 

Those divisions are a symptom of what's described in Romans 1:25+, where the culture worships itself and its religious creations instead of seeking and obeying the self-evident natural laws of the One God.

The resulting destabilization is countered with natural consequences where "...because of this God gave them over..."

The cycle is documented numerous times throughout the Jew's history from Babylon, Egypt, Rome...

Read Daniel, Exodus, and Romans.  The history is there.  Also notice the history of the word "Czar".

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:26 | 4619962 Z_End
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Thank you for that very thoughtful analysis. Much appreciated.

Z_End

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 00:10 | 4620054 UrbanMiner
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I appreciate your appreciation! Truly.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 01:24 | 4620165 813kml
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Get a room you two, Putin don't like girly-men.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 02:08 | 4620205 UrbanMiner
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I have to admit, that was pretty damn funny....

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 01:29 | 4620152 The_Prisoner
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Well said. Americans might have a problem accepting this, due to the Cold War and Hollywood brainwashing. But right now, Putin's Russia is the only thing standing agains a worldwide zionist Reich.

Every freedom loving man and woman with a shred of humanity left must understand this. And if they look at the historical facts, many of which are mentioned in your post, and do a dispassionate analysis, that is the conclusion they will reach.

I am a human being equipped with traits such as empathy and compassion. I don't care for Putin and I am not a russophile.

But right now were are all presented with a choice between Putin and Zakeim, Netanyahoo, Nuland, Kagan, Perle, Kristol, Kissinger, Rumsfeld, Clinton, Sustein, etc...

Choose wisely. Because the result of that confrontation will dictate what the world will look like. Either a non-hegemonic multipolar world, or a worldwide Reich equipped with total-information-awareness.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 05:16 | 4620368 Optimusprime
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......Putin is a Russian nationalist, Obama is a puppet of Zion.

+1 bro.

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