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Polish Magazine Lays Out What A Russian Invasion Would Look Like

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While the recently awakened dormant Russian bear appears content for now having digested the Crimea with barely a burp, Russia's immediate neighbors know all too well that appeasement - which is precisely how the west in its own eyes is viewing Putin's actions even if they will never admit it publicly - never works, most, especially the Baltic states, Finland and not to mention Poland, which was the country that got the raw end of the deal the last time European appeasement failed, are getting increasingly nervous.

So much so that some, in this case Poland, are already preempting the next escalatory steps in what some believe is a hyperbolic attempt to accelerate events so much so that a NATO build up in Eastern Europe forces Russia into a provocative first step so that said neighboring countries can get the backing of NATO instead of them too being sacrificed at the altar of appeasement. Nothing earthshattering here, and all in a day's work when it comes to realpolitik game theory.

So what has Poland in this case done? As the graphic below shows, Polish magazine "Fakt" has laid out the following scenario of just how a Russian invasion would look like, sweeping the Baltics, Belarus, and all of Ukraine, in one offensive wave. Obviously the implication is that Poland would be next.

 

What next: will this spark nationalist fervor in the potentially targeted countries leading to even further escalation, and more importantly, will NATO indeed proceed with a military build up which will almost certainly provoke Russia into even further action, which it itself would view as defensive and justified in light of "unwarranted" NATO expansion?

Obviously, nobody knows yet, although news earlier today that the US is sending yet another warship into the Black Sea at just a time when the tension over the annexation of Crimea appeared to be boiling over, is hardly the de-escalation signal that is needed to make sure the map above never becomes a reality.

 

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Wed, 04/02/2014 - 17:53 | 4618846 HedgeAccordingly
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Bullard has got this - http://hedge.ly/1jBMkp9

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:00 | 4618864 ebworthen
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On a good day Bullard has one thumb up his ass and one in his mouth; switches on Mondays.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:08 | 4618883 Latina Lover
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Keep dreaming Pollacks, no one is going rescue you from the clutches of the EU banksters.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 19:02 | 4619082 Fukushima Sam
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If they take the Ukraine it is a short adventure away from Bulgaria.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 19:22 | 4619134 cossack55
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Courland II

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 19:55 | 4619247 Vampyroteuthis ...
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the US is sending yet another warship into the Black Sea

Will this one also get stuck on a sand bar?

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:01 | 4619714 zerozulu
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Since Af-Pak is over, NATO needs something to justify their existence.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 03:37 | 4620300 fx
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Poland has become a total lapdog of the U.S. after they overthrew the communist rule. They blindly back every initiative of the US, have willingly built torture centres for the CIA and can't actually await to send their troops wherever uncle sam wants them. Whatever comes out of the Polish govt or the Polish mainstream meadia isn't worth the paper and certainly not worth to even discuss it - or publish it at a www platform. But then again, zh seems to become more and more of a NATO/US propaganda outlet...

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 07:43 | 4620544 Reptil
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pwoah... I think it's good to show the madness. puts everything else in stark contrast.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 17:54 | 4618847 naughtius maximus
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Doing the boogieman boogie

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 17:55 | 4618851 naughtius maximus
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Nato is really fucking butthurt about Syria aren't they

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:08 | 4618884 john39
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trying to lay a trap for Russia.  For humanity's sake I hope that Putin is smart enough to turn the tables on these evil pieces of filth.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:40 | 4619002 teslaberry
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the question is not how putin escapes the trap, he will. the question is what happens in syria after putin finds a way to deflect the provocations of nato. 

 

this is ALL ABOUT OIL AND GAS TRANSPORT. PUTIN CAN ESCAPE THE TRAP BUT STILL LOSE SYRIA. i don't think enough people are seeing the ukraine for what it is, a gambit distraction. the west can lose 20 billion imf dollars on ukraine and make back +10x that money if a pro-saudi gcc puppet can be replaced for assad. 

 

if syria is lost and latakia shut down. putin is in serious trouble with regard to quatari gas and oil being dumped on the european market and killing his profiteable margins. this is as serious an issue for him now, as it was for the czar 100 years ago when the warburgs funded stalin/lenin/trotsky to disrupt oil production . 

 

5 years of cheap gas and oil from the gcc going through syria and turkey----and nato will have less problems setting off more troublesome 'revolutions' in countries sympathetic to russia. furthemore, without fat profits on high oil and gas sold to europe. putin has fewer choices but to be chinas bitch. 

 

 

 

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 21:42 | 4619662 Carpenter1
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US bases scattered all over the area Poland is suggesting will be attacked. Just fear mongering,  no chance in Hades anything like this happens.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 07:26 | 4620480 Headbanger
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No, I think the real danger now is Israel goes full retard against Syria and/or Iran when they see Putin is gaining too much strength to back Iran & Syria military actions.

It's WW III when that happens

Then you won't need a microwave oven to make popcorn to watch the show.

 

Update:   I can't believe I just saw this after writing the above!

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-02/putin-defies-obama-in-syria-as-...

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 07:45 | 4620550 Reptil
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Here's my prediction: Putin will do........ nothing.
He'll let the situation in the Ukraine turn into chaos under the wings of the IMF.
The whole game is to pull Russia into a ground war. Last time that was bloody, no matter what the outcome.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 19:17 | 4619122 LeisureSmith
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Good for a laugh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjmiyOgO66g

And yes Nato is really fucking butthurt about Syria... one Nato country in particular. The one bordering Syria, with a crazy leader hanging on by his fingernails, the one with thousands of butthurt  jihadis in and around it's territory, ( That last sentance pretty much describes every country bordering Syria when i think about it... Thank's Nato )the one who got caught red handed trying to fabricate a pretext to attack Syria....again.

I used to think Nato was good idea, it's agressive expansion and warmongering shenanigans changed my mind.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 20:15 | 4619350 naughtius maximus
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Nato was a good idea. Could still be a good idea. But they have constucted a policy based on revenge and conquest. This is not why Nato was formed at the beginning.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:56 | 4619875 TheReplacement
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Kind of like America itself.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:40 | 4619996 TungstenBars
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Americas leaders are perpetually suffering from small dick syndrome.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 03:40 | 4620302 fx
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So what then was the reason for forming NATO? Defense? Are you kidding me??

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 17:57 | 4618853 Motley Fool
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Polish magazine 'fucked'? Ahahahahaha

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 17:58 | 4618854 ebworthen
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Sensationalism at it's best with that Polish article and map.

I don't think Russia wants Poland or anything besides Ukraine.

Ukraine is further south, has all the gas lines, and is closer to the Middle East and the oil.

Moldova maybe, but why hassle with the Poles and the northern climbs?

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:04 | 4618871 Maxter
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Exactly.  It is called fear mongering.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:13 | 4618873 McMolotov
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Haven't you heard? Putin wants the whole world because he's CRAAAAAAAAZY. Just like that Hitler dude. At least that's the idea they're trying to plant in the public's imagination, regardless of the fact that Putin seems to be the only one acting rationally at the moment.

As an aside, Yvonne Strahovski is Polish by way of Australia. I'd invade her if I had the chance.

EDIT: And apparently there's been another fucking shooting at Fort Hood. Obviously we should park missiles on the borders of Russia in response.

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Active-Shooter-Reported-at-Fort-Hood-25...

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:37 | 4618983 ILLILLILLI
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You have impeccable taste, sir!

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:41 | 4619006 ImnotPOTUS
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Most people have the wrong scale of history. He is aiming to be the next Napoleon/Alexander/Julias Ceasar

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 20:19 | 4619363 Uncle Remus
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Well, that was easy. He's already got Moscow. Home for Christmas, I'd say.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:49 | 4619037 Ignatius
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Putin "Just like that Hitler dude...only worse."

Someone's having a WWII wet dream with this map.

Subtract 50 of my years, give me my army men and some lighter fluid, and it's a go.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 20:21 | 4619374 lakecity55
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don't forget the cherry bombs.

we used those on GI Joe's foxholes.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:58 | 4619878 TheReplacement
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You played with dolls?

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 07:34 | 4620518 Reptil
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BOOM headshot
http://www.trunews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Tsar_Bomba.jpg

all this crap with advancing infantry units as arrows on a map is soooooo 1895. UROJENIA.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:27 | 4618951 Nick Jihad
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So, I guess you are not familiar with the secret codicile to the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, in which Stalin made a deal with Hitler to split Poland between them?

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:54 | 4619056 Miss Expectations
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Even earlier Catherine the Great had a secret plan to divide it up with Prussia and Austria.  Anyway if this map was correct, Finland would have an arrow pointed at it, too.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 20:20 | 4619369 lakecity55
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Quite familiar.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 20:57 | 4619529 laomei
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You mean the pact which essentially bought Stalin time to prepare for a war while gaining some buffer zone so as to not be overrun instantly?  Cus that war was inevitable and the USSR was, at the time, in no way ready for what was to come.

 

The best part of that conflict was the ideological component to it.  Essentially the same core ideas, except that the Nazis were all about race and ensuring that everything was privatized to the "right people".  Whereas the communist view was that everything belonged to the people and should be owned by the state rather than allowing individuals to profit from it.

Privatization = Facism.  Now, if you want to see who the modern day nazis are, look no further than who demands privatization, and it all becomes rather clear.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:01 | 4619889 TheReplacement
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Why was Stalin surprised by the Nazi invasion if he made the deal to split Poland in order to prepare for war with Germany?

Why is Putin worth over $60B?  How many centuries has he worked on a government salary to save that much?

 

 

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 09:05 | 4620758 laomei
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$60B is a bullshit number.  Might as well claim obama's net worth includes the white house and all assets under his control.  He "allegedly" has super secret ownership stakes, paper wealth that is theoretical, not actual, according to critics who have zero actual evidence.  It's mainly just part of a propaganda push to make a sane guy look "crazy".  Nothing new at all under the sun.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 19:37 | 4619181 lakecity55
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exactly. why would russia want anything else? Maybe Odessa.

why would they go to war when they can make beaucoup rubles on exporting oil?

I think Ivan has his mind on building drilling infrastructure and selling oil, natgas and such.

Somebody is trying to create a fear scenario here, imo.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 20:11 | 4619328 cynicalskeptic
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Military invasions are so AMERICAN...... (do a count for the last 30 years on who has invaded who)

 

No need for Russia to invade anyone.  One nice cold winter and they'll OWN half of Europe.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 20:21 | 4619372 Uncle Remus
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In Russia, winter own you.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 21:35 | 4619647 skepsis101
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Russia has no interest in Poland and is capable of easily keeping the Baltic states off balance.  It will take eastern Ukraine, but not like the map shows.  It will go all the way to the east bank of the Dnieper River, entering from southern Belarus and north of Kharkov.  It will overwhelm Chernihiv, Surriy, Poltova oblasts on the east side of the Dnieper, and severe the Cherkasy and Khiv oblasts all the way to the Dnieper, thus gazing into downtown Kiev and the west bank - being thus literally under the gun.  But it will not take Kiev, leaving it the as the capital of the rump Ukrainian state to manage the non-industrial neo-fascist agrarian western Ukraine.  However, Russia must also across the length of the Khirohrad oblast in the south in order to protect Transdniester and Odessa.

It wil be quite a show.  It will have encompassed 95% of the nearly 20% of ethnic Russians, and 80% of Russian speaking Ukrainians, which are about 20 million or nearly half of the population.  This also encompasses over 80% of the industrial core of the country and its most vital natural resources.  The blitzkrieg will be over in 2 weeks.

Yatsenuk and Obama get Svoboda and the neo-fascists, all the small family farms, the IMF and Kiev.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 07:39 | 4620530 Reptil
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voted you up for the idea.
but how about the chinese?
http://www.rferl.org/content/ukraine-china-leases-farmland/25114812.html

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 17:58 | 4618855 Karl von Bahnhof
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Polish it little more!

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 17:59 | 4618860 SpanishGoop
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Does Putin's palace need a renovation ?

To inavde Poland you must be in need of some cheap painters, wall paperes or drywallers.

 

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:30 | 4618961 Nick Jihad
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It's infinitely more convenient, if you invade Poland while their army is busy fighting the Wehrmacht. Which is exactly what the Russians did in '39.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 20:19 | 4619362 cynicalskeptic
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And SO much easier when their allies in the west don't do a thing to come to your aid......

 

While the Poles were invaded by the Germans (and Soviets) they were sold out big time by the Allies who did NOT come to the aid of Poland, who sat by idly while the Home Army in Warsaw rose up and was slaughtered and who at the end of the war let Uncle Joe take Poland with not a word of protest.

The Poles (who fought hard and long - Poles in the RAF, British Army at Monte Cassino and Paratroopers sacrificed at Arnhem) weren't even invited to the Victory parade in London for fear of annoying the Russians.

The West has repeatedly sacrificed Eastern European countries over the years... Poland, Finland, the Baltic States in 1939 and later again in 1945, the Ulraine (where anti-Soviet partisans were active into the 1950's, Hungary in 1956, Czechoslovakia in 1968.....  they are viewed as pawns in the global chess game.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 20:57 | 4619528 Torgo
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Spot on. Without the false war guarantee from Perfidious Albion, the Poles would perhaps have allied with Germany to serve as the tip of an anti-Bolshevik spear to put Stalin in the ground in short order. The Poles most certainly did not expect to be stabbed in the back by Churchill, but that's exactly what that accursed man did.

To quote Ralph Raico: "Winston Churchill was a Man of Blood and a politico without principle, whose apotheosis serves to corrupt every standard of honesty and morality in politics and history." http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/04/ralph-raico/good-guy-or-bad/

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:45 | 4619025 ImnotPOTUS
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I thought all those tradesman left Poland for work in the Upper EU states? Hope Putin doesn't keep moving west to find them.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:01 | 4618865 IREN Colorado
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Fakt = Fact

The Poles need to take this stuff seriously.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:02 | 4618869 Warhead
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This looks like when me and my friends would get bored with Risk and just play army-men on the risk board, it's so simplistic. I can just see the guy who made the map going "zheeeeooowww psshhhhhh, vrew vrew pew pew pew!" and shaking around his little tank figurines while pitching the story idea. Y'know, but with a Polish accent.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:24 | 4618933 agent default
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Yeah well they went  "zheeeeooowww psshhhhhh, vrew vrew pew pew pew!" the last time when they allied with Hitler to partition Czechoslovakia. The last time the Poles had any ideas of war Vasili Blokhin ended up doing overtime. 

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 21:09 | 4619566 Torgo
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"the last time when they allied with Hitler to partition Czechoslovakia"

 

Correct. Churchill wrote of "that very Poland which with hyena appetite had only six months before joined in the pillage and destruction of the Czechoslovak state".

 

My fellow Poles were no angels, so perhaps they deserved what happened to them. IMHO, they should have gone all the way and allied with Germany against the Bolsheviks, but Churchill was hell-bent for an alliance between the USSR and Poland and other nations. Failing that, he and his co-conspirator Chamberlain settled for what they could squeeze out of Poland with their perfidious and false-hope-giving war guarantee.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 06:59 | 4620456 alus
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Probably you don't know - but Czechoslovakia seized "Cieszyn" 19 years earlier in 1920 from Poland while polish soldiers were busy figthing with russian bolsheviks and Poland couldn't have defend. It was like "knife in the back". Please stop spreading german propaganda, that it was done alltohether with Hitler. You don't know the facts you shouldn't dicuss...

Another thing "Fakt" is the newspaper comparable to "Bild" or any similar. Not worth to mention about.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 21:22 | 4623563 Torgo
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Thanks for that info. If that's the case then the Czechoslovak state deserved a little payback from my fellow Poles. The Czechoslovak rulers owed their positions to the utterly vile and indefensible Treaty of Versailles and my understanding is that Britain's Lord Runciman found that the Sudeten Germans were indeed being mistreated by the Czechoslovak state. The Czechoslovak rulers would have done better to ally with all European anti-Bolsheviks, with Germany as the prime mover, but Chamberlain and Churchill preferred to destroy Germany primarily.

 

However, how is my quotation from post-WW2 Winston Churchill an example of "spreading german propaganda"? My understanding is that Churchill lived to regret his entire conduct of WW2, saying things like "we slaughtered the wrong pig." My aim is to expose the truth that the wildly esteemed Churchill was a world-class betrayer of his people and his own words damn him for his criminal stupidity in aiding the USSR in his reckless quest to destroy the German economy and industry.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 09:37 | 4620881 rygar
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"zheeeeooowww psshhhhhh, vrew vrew pew pew pew!"

 

and you are probably right ;)

see, "Fakt" is not magazine, it is pulp newspaper, like "The Sun" or "Bild", they mostly write about celebrities and such. Lots of exclamation marks.

 

Poland is in hysteria, because there are big miilitary programs, billions to spend and millions to steal. Thats the whole thing, really.

And rulingg party was in steep decline, bringing war rhetoric pumped their popularity a bit - EU elections are just weeks from now

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:04 | 4618872 Payne
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Why would Putin want any of these areas ?  Ok Eastern Ukraine makes sense and of course Crimea but what advantage would he have ?  The West is destroying itself and at some point Poland will be begging for assistance from Russia, Putin is clear on this.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:14 | 4618903 SmilinJoeFizzion
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Have you seen the chicks

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:32 | 4618967 Nick Jihad
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And Putin is a newly-swinging-single hip bachelor dude!

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:32 | 4618969 Postal
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Yep. I work with a girl who came here from Poland. Cute accent, awesomely hot body, and super sweet--really nice. Not a drop of that spoiled, bitchy, "treat me like a Princess" crap like American girls.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:13 | 4618901 SmilinJoeFizzion
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Does this involve a submarine with a screen door?

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:16 | 4618908 NOZZLE
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Interesting fanstasy world they live in, far easier to snap off the pieces you want, just like the west did to Kosovo.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:21 | 4618928 ramacers
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never forget Stalingrad - the Germans still can't believe it.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:26 | 4618948 Beau Tox
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If they go thatfar, they will go all the way to the Elbe River. They want East Germany back.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:30 | 4618960 Algosaurus Rex
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Time to dust off the Risk board.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:33 | 4618970 Z_End
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Complete BS.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:35 | 4618975 SpanishGoop
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Cry Wolf for bags of EU money.

 

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:35 | 4618976 Fix It Again Timmy
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Are they going to bomb Pearl Harbor again?

 

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:46 | 4619026 Maxter
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Obomba might do it.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 19:33 | 4619170 lakecity55
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Yeah, Bath House would relish bombing anything with a US flag on it.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:39 | 4618997 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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I guess they forgot that Belarus is already firmly in their sphere of influence and doesn't need to be invaded.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:40 | 4619003 Tracerfan
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The Polish article and map are stupid.  Why would Russia invade Belarus when Belarus is its ally?  No need to invade.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:34 | 4619979 naughtius maximus
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The map is made for people that don't know any better. USA USA USA!!!

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:41 | 4619009 Pure Evil
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They can have it all the way to the Atlantic.

What it comes down to is who is gonna continue to prop up the corpse called the EU, its either US or Russia.

And the EU ain't no Weekend at Bernies.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 19:31 | 4619161 lakecity55
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Exactamundo.

Why would Vlad want a brokeass bunch of Youropeans?

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:44 | 4619021 NDXTrader
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This will never happen because Russia has no need for Poland at all. Why have the headache. Hypothetically, I wonder how far Russia could go before the West would go hot war. I mean, the Europeans don't have a military, so what if the Russians got all the way to the German border? Would The US start dropping the 81st in? Push the nuclear button? I can't even imagine Obama doing it.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:50 | 4619039 falconflight
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Absent an invasion of Germany, neither NATO or the US will do squat in a military sense.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 19:17 | 4619124 Oldballplayer
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Too many Polish in the US. If they screw with Poland the outrage in this country would be too large to ignore.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 02:16 | 4620218 StychoKiller
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A large percentage of the US population was against TARP (and Obamacare), look how those turned out.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:46 | 4619028 falconflight
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Yes, there is no history to justify this apparent wave of Neo-Nazism sweeping all areas not liberated by KGB's Russia.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:53 | 4619054 ali-ali-al-qomfri
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How do you say 'Hors d'oeuvre' in Russian - Crimea

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:57 | 4619071 madtechnician
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Could somebody smart here please explain why the fuck Russia would invade it's largest oil & gas client - the EU ?

And Poland ? Who the fuck would want Poland ? Who the fuck would want any of these indebted countries who cannot pay any of their energy bills -

Don't you fuckers get this yet this is actually the other way around ? Russia will be defending it's borders from the EU with extra troops - not invading the fucking EU -

Next winter the EU will be freezing it's bloody tits off - and trying to blame Russia and asking for US intervention to get some warm heat ,.,, It is not gonna happen.

Germany knows the only way around this problem is consensus not bullshit.

Please lets get some chess players on board and not some pidgeon shit diggers

FFS ......

 

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 19:56 | 4619255 daedon
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The best explanation I've heard so far is if Russia didn't intend on attacking Europe, it wouldn't have surronded all those NATO military bases with it's borders.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 18:57 | 4619072 are we there yet
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Some newspaper with low sales wants to up its circulation.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 19:28 | 4619074 Son of Captain Nemo
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Gives new meaning to the words "Dumb Polack"!

Maybe they can get nostalgic wearing these when they are ready to be wiped off the map courtesy of their owners who will be using them and the rest of the Western European community as fodder by the "Anglo-American" cabal that owns them!

What I woudn't give to see Zbig on horseback with a pair of these charging to the Russian border!

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 19:03 | 4619090 RaceToTheBottom
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I think the map is incorrect.

They will invade Slovakia as well. 

They might wait till Tesla announces that they will build cars there.   Russia needs the cars as a heat source in the dead of winter, they will just hammer a hole in the battery and squirt some water in the battery...

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 19:25 | 4619146 inky
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Heres a friendly tip for NATO.

STOP FUCKING PISSING ON PEOPLES FRONT LAWNS.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 19:26 | 4619147 jtg
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Russia is acting calm and diplomatic, while the West is hyperventilating. If a war starts future historians will put the blame on the West.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 19:52 | 4619229 daedon
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It always depends on who's simplified history books you read.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:36 | 4619984 naughtius maximus
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If the us and russia are reduced to radioactive rubble who will write history? Maybe the sewer rats when they mutate...

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 19:38 | 4619153 lakecity55
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Uhh, does Russia right now have the Army and materiel and logistics for this?

The map shows like a really BIG attack with millions.

Fuck, I will need to go buy another #100 bag of army men to play this one.

Get reel, polacks.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 19:38 | 4619185 goldinpenguin
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Vlaf has alreafy dropped bread hints that he neefs to help the russians in latvia and estonia and that lith nazis are aoding ukies anf thus far NATO has been a paper tiger, time to go for it

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 02:20 | 4620225 StychoKiller
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Go buy a new keyboard.

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 19:45 | 4619207 highwaytoserfdom
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Bankster create usury slaves in a bad game of Monopoly now the banksters want the neo-cons to bail them on  a game of risk....     Obozo did clear this with his trip to Saudi Arabia and Kerry did clear it with AIPAC.   CAN'T MAKE THIS STUFF UP...   Well don't worry  the war mongering DNC and Jamie Diamond have it under control...  $242 billion in window dressing but   Janet predicted the housing bubble....     BRICS went with Russia on this one.......   Why because Russia's crony debt slave congress talks about Stalin and the Gulags WE PROFIT OFF THE GULAGS..    YES BUT THE CRISTIE'S AND BUSHES AND ROVE'S HAVE PROTECTED US FROM ONLINE GAMBLING THANK YOU Sheldon Adelson... 

  And what is the story with Afghanistan? "graveyard of empires," Saudi training grounds?   Huh They were Saudis?

 I am speechless   USA USA USA USA oh yea wife is from Poland and   if I could get away with it the 70's trick of Canadian flag on backpack or similar would be in order....  Just what flag?  Kinda of a Snowden  problem hoser  eh

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 20:03 | 4619287 Lin S
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NATO took over "the great, European Crusade against Bolshevism" that Hitler bungled. 

And Hitler decided to invade Russia after visiting Napolean's tomb in 1940.  And Napoleon...

...ummm... err...

...does anyone here think NATO will do any better kicking Russia's ass than Hitler or Napolean did?

 

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 20:07 | 4619299 Lin S
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Now that I think of it...

...I wonder if Poland might move troops into that part of far western Ukraine that, prior to 1939, was still part of Poland.  Are there any ethnic Poles still living there?

With Kiev in so much disarray, it's an opportunity, of sorts...

 

 

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 20:37 | 4619437 Seize Mars
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How many foreign invasions have the Russians staged in the last x years?
How many atomic bombs have they ever used in combat?

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 20:55 | 4619520 David Wooten
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"Poland, which was the country that got the raw end of the deal the last time European appeasement failed..."

'Appeasement' was not the cause of Poland's raw deal in WWII.  Appeasment has beenattributed to Neville Chamberlain's decision to let the Sudetenland and its people become part of Germany again as it was before the disastrous Versailles treaty that created the artificial state of Czechoslavakia and brought you-know to power.  Poland grabbed a chunk of Czechoslovakia when it crumbled in 1938 as did several other countries surrounding it.

But what really caused WWII was not 'appeasement', but Chamberlain's stupid guarantee of British support to the Polish (military) government which was negotiating with Germany for better German access to E Prussia via the (90% German) Danzig corridor. That brought about the end of the negotiations and staged the setting for war.

Chamberlain was pressured into this idiotic guarantee by that bellicose backbencher with silver tongue whose name need not be mentioned, but who is so admired by today's neocon warmongers.

 

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 01:39 | 4620181 Torgo
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Excellent post. It never ceases to amaze and dismay me that so many otherwise intelligent people admire and venerate that drunken, pampered, and "silver-tongued bellicose backbencher". He is surely one of the villains of the 20th Century for continuing the British Empire's tradition of sowing discord and fomenting war among Europe's peoples under the "balance of power" strategy. If Dante's Inferno is accurate, he and his fellow British elites are in the Eighth Circle of Hell now, soon to be joined by Brzezinski, Nuland, Kerry, and Obama. 

 

I had hoped that Poland would become a peaceful Polish Corridor between the natural resources of Russia and the factories of Germany. Perhaps Putin can negotiate a non-aggression pact with Poland and agree to partition Ukraine between the 2 nations like that which was done to Poland in 1939.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 03:57 | 4620317 FinalCollapse
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Why would you want to play the game of Risk with other people's lives? This is 21st century in case you haven't noticed....

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 21:33 | 4619636 ASACJon
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I know first hand and from FT that the eastern Ukraine is under a sort of economic siege.

 

A friend of mine was supposed to fly to America from Donetsk.  Due to the situation, most flights have been cut from Donetsk and rerouted to Lviv (a straight east to west transfer of flight capacity.) Maybe in a month they come back on line, maybe not.

 

I have no doubt carriers noticed a drop in ticketed passengers, though I have to wonder if Lviv really is experiencing a tourist boom (perhaps neo-Nazis are making a pilgrimage.)

 

Regarding this Polish article, it strikes me as red for the bull.  Putin isn't dumb.  He isn't going to launch an invasion of Poland if for no other reason than there is nothing he wants or needs there.  All he would get is a huge war bill and a pointless occupation of a country slitting its own neck before the altar of the EU Mammon.

 

Putin is going to sit back, collect the IMF check, and then wait for the east and south to demand Mother Russia annexes all the way to Trans-Dniester.  Once the kleptocrats jack up utilities 100% and announce pension 'reform', I think many will be highly disapproving of the Greek Model Yats seems to fawn over.

 

The Baltics are a tricky issue and NATO/Wall Street knows this.  If they want World War III, they will have some anti-Russian activities go on while our Western media talks about how Justin Bieber urinated in a jail loo.  When Russia responds, CNNFOXMSNBCABCBS will report how Putin is personally throwing poor Estonians in wood chippers.

 

Putin wants to make money and build back Russia.  Much easier to just shift gas sales to China if EU wants to throw hissy fits.  He has no reason to desire war.  Those who have a broken system with a gunboat currency as the only chip left, well, they could logically speaking desire trouble.

 

Thanks a whole lot Euromadans and scumbag bankers; you're icing me in my attempt at a cute Russian lady.

 

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 02:27 | 4620232 NuYawkFrankie
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You're quoting the FT - a premier banksters propaganda organ - as if there's an oz of truth in it?

UUgh??? Get a grip on reality man!

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 22:17 | 4619752 Hovel Downs
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Well played Poland.  Well played. hurrmp

Wed, 04/02/2014 - 23:06 | 4619902 PADRAEG
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Putin continues to destroy Obama, at every turn, intellectual, political, even economic. Crimea is fait accompli, Ukraine sadly failed for 20 yrs to build a nation. In a fair vote East Ukraine is split, but with Obama out to lunch, Putin could walk in to welcoming Russians, with a plausible pretext given that Kyiv has downgraded Russian language, & evidently ignored Tatar language.

Amazing so many assume Putin won't proceed further. Examine how Napoleon remained in power... constant wars to up his popularity, gaining support from his 'government' in Paris. When he lost, he just found another war. Putin may be smarter than that.

Russia is in such shambles, with almost no significant industry outside energy, his reign is ending. ONLY this desparate putsch into Crimea can keep him in power at all. Putin will decide when/if to proceed, based on his popularity requirements at home, & prospects of victory in attack. Think small, he is a small man... bigger than Obama, but still small.

Putin can't attack across the broad front displayed on the map, because all those nations, including Poland, would be capable of stopping/bogging him down forever. In such extremis, Obama will have to respond militarily, or be impeached. Hillary/Bill will prevent that!

Remaining Obama's cowardice, Putin takes BelaRus, a major target regained, to advance to the easiest Baltic state. There's only one where he can expect local support. Obama will appease that, for the same reason he showed no balls in Crimea. 

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 00:13 | 4620060 Jack Burton
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Same old propaganda whores shilling for the Military Industrial Complex. Force American tax payers to fund more useless wars and useless weapons. Poles trying to start a war that they expect America to fight for them. Are we that stupid? Yes, we are. Obama and his Neocon masters are war crazedt of  a Shock And Awe invasion force driving on Moscow, while Poland cheers from the sidelines. Never mind that the odd 4-5 thousand tactical nuclear weapons might get detonated over the heads of the shock and awe boys. War is hell, when the invaded has the means to defend themselves, nobody told the Poles that Russia might defend itself and Poland might get caught in the cross fire. Poland still hoping the IMF bankers and and loans will save them.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 02:33 | 4620220 NuYawkFrankie
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Poland's Secret Weapon:

Brezinski - bedecked in pre WW1 military plumage - leading the Cavalry Charge

With that skank of a daughter riding pillion in a leather dominatrix outfit - uughhh!

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 21:36 | 4623590 Torgo
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How does his daughter show her face in public or on TV, knowing that her father is famous for publicly fantasizing about either controlling or killing a million people?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO2U9jJoWsM

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 02:58 | 4620272 Peterus
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"Fakt" is gutter level press. Just look at this image - it might be graphically proficient but is just devoid of any data. Bunch of little tanks spread around - but these are not divisions of actual troops or anything, just eye candy. Same for this wave of attacks at anything around - where's a justification for this kind of attack? Not in "Fakt". On another day they would publish "killer cat returns and threatens the neighborhood" or some crap like this in the same spot in this ... magazine.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 12:14 | 4621432 TPTB_r_TBTF
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Fakt is: Poland does have killer cats.

From Reuters:

http://www.reuters.com/video/2009/03/25/killer-cat-roams-poland?videoId=...

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 03:38 | 4620301 basho
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all the polish jokes you've are not jokes.

some of these people haven't gotten out of the trees yet.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 04:27 | 4620338 Flybyknight
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All this talk about Russia invading Ukraine and now Poland. What a load of crap. Where are the satellite photos of the huge buldup of russian troops on the Ukrainian border. Every escalation in this  sorry episode has been carried out by the west. 

America foments riots and revolution in Ukraine.

Russia, which already has an agreement to station 22000 troops in Crimea , uses them to protect its interests in a warm water port and the predominantly ethnic russian citizens of crimea from the undemocraticaly installed new government in Kiev.

A democratic referendum in crimea opts to join Russia.

Russia conducts military exercises in Russia to show it is not a doormat.

Obama escalates the situation with financial sanctions against Russia. 

America sends a warship to the black sea.

Nato plans military exercises in Poland.

Where is the evidence of Russias military buildup. There is none and the blame for this entire situation rests with the USA and therefore Nobel Peace Prize recipient President Obama 

He is a prize something and it has nothing to do with peace. Obama deserves the prize for biggest dissapointment of  the 21st century and if he is not careful the instigator of the worst calamity of the 21st century.

 

 

 

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 05:02 | 4620359 22winmag
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For some reason this reminds me of Popular Mechanics struggling to illustrate how two of the strongest, most robust skyscrapers ever built collapsed from a little superficial damage.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 05:09 | 4620365 vyeung
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Nice mock up. I could do the same scenario for the US/EU in conquering Eastern europe (which they are doing) and Asia. But the fact of the matter is WHY would they want to? They don't need to. All they need to do now is to nuke the petrodollar (happening before your wide-open shut eyes). The only option for the US/EU is aggression or to play by the new rules. So people are wasting their frigging time in pretending Russia wants to use force to do a land grab when they can easily do it with a statement.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 06:51 | 4620444 kurt
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Three nukes from now, all the nations on the map will be asking to be admitted to the new Russia for protection.

In your heart you know this is soon. 

Main reason: shadow banking, bad paper, derivatives, failure to demure to Israel's Iran Obsession.

The most important news will be the density and location of massive fallout clouds.

That's right we'll be back to plastic, tape, masks and 50's style bomb shelters.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 07:43 | 4620543 john.smith
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Paranoia. If they are NATO members that should be enough to bring in NATO should the Ruskies attack. Why then the need to try to instigate a war by having nato divisions stationed right there?

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 08:04 | 4620576 esum
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NATO is effete... Obama is a joke...  Putin know it.  

Nations like people have to be self reliant... otherwise youre dinner for a predator or in the case of the ussa .... your own government, which is now a malignant cancer... first your guns then your freedom, then your wealth... the libtards believe at least 30 million amerikans need to be "reeducated"... in camps. 

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 08:26 | 4620629 RazvanM
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Stalin was a bigger killer than Hitler. He was killing people in large quantities when Hitler was just a histerical speaker and continued with mass killings long after WW2 ended.

Looking at the history of Russia, its a history of an expanding empire. And when conquering new countries, they combine a strategy of killing the most affluent people (army officers, teachers, doctors, intelectuals, artists, priests etc), of mass deportations, emprisonment and terror. Then they replace the void with people that are loyal (usually russian nationals with names changed to be similar with the local names). There are two results:

1. There is a 5th column, loyal to Russia, in every strategic position in the victim country.

2. The victim society will not recover, ever, from the social damage it suffered.

Ukraine is just a sample of actions one may see in a former victim country: have a large Russian population that is loyal to Moscow, then exploit the majority through puppet leaders loyal to Moscow, then violently suppress any dissent from the majority, then, if this isn't working, invade the former victim and use propaganda to brainwash the naiive westerners. Do observe that the Crimeean troops didn't fire a single shot against the invading Russian troops, so great was the infiltration. And in the worst period for Ukraine, the Ukrainian Admiral commited treason by switching to the Russians.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 12:34 | 4621478 Sandmann
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The Poles are potty. They were the ones that planned to attack Germany in 1935 when Pilsudski tried to get France to join him in a pre-emptive strike but they refused

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 13:33 | 4621703 mantrid
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"Fakt" is a tabloid known for most rudicolous articles, it is a synonim for "presss for the dumb"

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