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Thu, 04/03/2014 - 13:11 | 4621595 JLee2027
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You need THEIR permission to keep YOUR gun. Despicable

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 13:16 | 4621619 ghengis86
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it's a trap!!

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 13:29 | 4621664 Dr. Richard Head
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No shit!  Here is Ohio in order to carry concealed one needs a concealed carry permit.  My brother-in-law is a pirtae...I mean a police officer and any time they pull someone over and run the plates or run an ID, the first thing they see is if someone is a concealed carry card member.  That means these mafia...I mean police...sorry about that....has a list of all who have a gun.  Additionally, when buying at a retail store there is a "background check" prior to owning a gun.  Lists, lists, everywhere - just in case a gun grab is needed.  God damned pirates...

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 13:29 | 4621680 Fukushima Sam
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There's a good law to break and take to the Supreme Court.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 13:32 | 4621695 Isotope
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Copstashe detected!

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 13:45 | 4621759 Joe Davola
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How's come it's a violation of civil rights to require someone provide ID when they vote, but not a violation to force one to produce an ID for this?

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 13:56 | 4621813 drendebe10
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Or produce a valid gummint picture ID to vote.... WTF???

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 13:56 | 4621821 0b1knob
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Does this apply to nail guns?

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 14:06 | 4621874 El Vaquero
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Would any banker tool really be banned?

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 15:01 | 4622128 hobopants
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Somebody needs to draft a bill making firearm ownership mandatory in the USA with a foot note that says "you'll thank us later". It would never pass but the gesture would be powerful. Its about time we went on the offensive with these idiots and if you're going to force people to buy something i would much rather it be a firearm than a broken healthcare policy.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 16:39 | 4622531 JohnG
Thu, 04/03/2014 - 16:52 | 4622583 Rusty Shorts
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Archie Bunker's Editorial on Gun Control

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 17:59 | 4622844 The Alarmist
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Thu, 04/03/2014 - 19:10 | 4623130 Rusty Shorts
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Thu, 04/03/2014 - 20:41 | 4623444 chumbawamba
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I'll bet you more than a few of those who didn't check "US Citizen" did so for a very good reason: they did not wish to identify themselves as subjects of the corporate District of Columbia.  That questionnaire is biased and faulty and forces people to admit being subject to the Federal government for the purposes of restricting them to 14th Amendment personhood (civil) rights.

I am Chumbawamba.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 21:39 | 4623604 pods
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Just another of the hundreds of ways they get you to submit to jurisdiction.


Thu, 04/03/2014 - 22:04 | 4623659 MontgomeryScott
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I hate to point out the obvious...

I am NOT a rayciss...

The dude's name is HIRAM GRAU.

I mean, if his name was Chuck Jones or John Doe or Lamont Sanford or something, it wouldn't be quite so obvious.

He mind as well be Paul Wolfowitz or Podhertz or Norman Finkelstein or something.

REMEMBER: The goyim (oops, Illinois citizens) have literally FLOODED the IL. State Police, begging to be registered... just like the Obamacare website is flooded with 'last minute applications'... AND, DON'T FORGET TO PAY US YOUR $10.00 in shekels for the PRIVELDEGE... OF OUR BENEVOLENT ALLOWANCE that you may keep your firearm (for now)...

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

OOPS, they forgot this one.

So, pods, when is the line drawn? It's NOT that 'line in the sand' that washes away with the winds and the tide, and the 'slippery slope' is all a bunch of bullshit. That 'slope' is called 'progessivism', and it is an AGENDA that has taken action, and is in the process of disarming, dumbing down, and stealing everything from the people, SIMULTANEOUSLY. It's led at the state level by people like HIRAM GRAU, and at the federal level by those like him.



Fri, 04/04/2014 - 13:16 | 4625408 Lost Word
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Grau might be German name.

Hiram could indicate his father was a Freemason.

Many police idiots are Freemasons.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 13:10 | 4625384 Lost Word
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Fri, 04/04/2014 - 02:19 | 4624011 Theosebes Goodfellow
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~"Archie Bunker's Editorial on Gun Control"~

Freakin' prescient, wasn't he?

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 22:35 | 4623728 DirkDiggler11
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Yes, the Kennesaw Ga mandatory firearm ownership law is still very much in effect. Only an armed citizen can adequately himself or herself from harm. You can define harm any way you wish ...

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 19:10 | 4623132 chinoslims
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I gave you an up vote but do you want someone like let's say Lindsey lohan , Kanye West or Dick Cheney with a Gun?

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 22:10 | 4623674 hobopants
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I'm pretty sure you're joking but if they are American citizens and they want one then yes. I think allowing people to be robbed of their rights because somebody thinks they might do something, is much worse for society than Cheney shooting one of his rich buddies in the face, or Lindsey accidentally blowing away a breast implant or pet chihuahua. 

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 03:20 | 4624038 effendi
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What the fuck difference does it make if they are an "American Citizen" or not.

Your mind has been corralled into thinking that the right to bear arms is a right granted by the US government to its citizens. It isn't, it is a right granted to all men by our creator and it does not matter to God whether you hold US citizenship or not when you wish to protect yourself.

It is the US government continued nibbling on the rights of MEN (and women) to bear arms.

I have no objection to anybody who is old enough to bear arms having that right respected. The only restrictions should be to those on certain meds, those subject to court orders (mentally disturbed or under parole restrictions) and those currently in prison.

Even felons who have done their time should have the right to self protection with the exception of those who committed crimes of serious violence. If someone boosted a car at 18 and then went on to be a decent person then it is wrong that they cannot own a gun at 60?


Fri, 04/04/2014 - 09:39 | 4624547 taoJones
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Can those in other countries use the same justification for gun ownership, if it is a right bestowed by the Creator and not a priviledge granted by governement?  It would be awesome if that were the case...

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 20:27 | 4626947 hobopants
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Wow...nice tangent there, I especially like the part where you tell me what I believe. The right to bear arms was won by my American ancestors through blood and sweat, God has nothing to do with it and neither does the Federal Government.

Also I only give a shit about American citizens because I am one and could care less how the rest of the world conducts itself, that is there business. I'm sick and tired of the type of thinking you display here, which presumes that it is somehow America's duty to make sure all humanity has the same rights we enjoy. If they want the rights that you think they are entitled to then let them fight for it, this isn't charity or welfare.

If you were better educated then you would know that the entire bill of rights (of which the 2nd amendment is a part), is anti-thesis to the Federal Govenment, meaning it was designed to protect Americans from the Federal Government, which means nobody with half a brain would ever come to the conclusion that "that the right to bear arms is a right granted by the US government to its citizens".

Thanks for playing, have a nice day.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 22:14 | 4623684 MontgomeryScott
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Cheney's quotes:

Cheney has a gun (and knows how to use it):

SO: How does one defend oneself from the likes of Dick Cheney?

(I HAD to add the one with the pretty girl)

SURE, let these pictuary retards have weapons. They make up an extremely SMALL percentage of the population (who, if armed and ready, will eradicate them as fast as possible).

Lindsay Lohan is probably AFRAID of weapons, and Kayne West (whoever that is... he's a singer, isn't he?) has an entourage of heavily-armed bodyguards already.

WHAT was your point, again chinoslims? I seemed to have missed it.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 00:42 | 4623927 Tall Tom
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I agree. Dick Cheney damn well knows how to use a weapon. Shooting lawyers in the face is a damn good way of using a weapon. Seriously.


Anytime someone needs to go hunting with me I will be happy to host them. (Hunting accidents may happen. Damn.)

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 05:43 | 4624151 SoDamnMad
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The affidavit clearly states that the firearm accidentally discharged hitting the boat full of gold which sank in an area of the lake that is exceptionally deep, preventing recovery.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 15:06 | 4622169 General Decline
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They are currently overwhelmed with CC permits.  That is different than a FOID card.  FOID card gives one "permision" to own a gun but with that alone, you cannot carry.  I'm not applying for the CC permit.  I have never given up my fingerprints to date and I don't plan too.  At the moment you only need to give finger prints if you want your CC permit expedited.  But, that is soon rumored to change- they will be requiring FP's to keep the CC permit.  F-that.  If I feel I need to carry, then I will carry. 

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 20:26 | 4623390 kaiserhoff
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I lived in Illinois for the first 22 years of my life, but when I go back, I sometimes feel like an outlander.

Shit like this, is why.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 21:05 | 4623523 Sauk Leader
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I would like to note this is one of the few forms you fill out in this state that doesn't include a voter registration form.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 17:01 | 4622599 DanDaley
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Nail gun master, Jerry Miculek:



Fri, 04/04/2014 - 07:23 | 4624218 New_Meat
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"Does this apply to nail guns?"

Only the high capacity nail guns, those running over 15 psi, or firing 10d and larger.

- Ned

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 23:47 | 4623852 A Nanny Moose
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...or have any gummint ID whatsoever?

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 13:58 | 4621835 Pairadimes
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Because....something something Kumbayah!

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 22:40 | 4623735 MontgomeryScott
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Nancy... Is that YOU?

Kumbayah, my lord, kumbayah...

Gosh, I'm all hopey-changey already!

Obi-wan Hiram Grau, SAVE US!

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 13:59 | 4621837 pods
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Because voting is a civil right.  They can make up whatever rules they want about those.

The right to self defense is a natural right.

By the same reasoning even felons have the right to own use a firearm, although it is not recognized by our government at the present time.

(understood your point, but most people blur the definitions of natural rights versus civil rights.)


Thu, 04/03/2014 - 14:09 | 4621898 Nemo DeNovo
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The NRA was the sponsor/author of the '68 Gun Control Act which removed a felons Righ to Bear Arms and the whole bill was a racial response against those uppity blacks during the Civil Rights Movement.  It was a good way to disarm them.


Hence my view that EVERYONE has a Natural Born RIGHT to delf defense by whatever meansthey choose, period end of sentence.  I despise those who proclaim that Felons do not hav a right to bear arms.  Gotta love thier logic, if you get a DUI or whatever felony you now are just a victim in ther eye, they only care about THEIR right to bear arms and Fuck everyone else - bunch of hypocrites

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 22:34 | 4623725 MontgomeryScott
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Probably a good comment, but it's best to try to be, um, sober these days.

Good point about the NRA and the '68 Act (the best way to co-opt an idea or a concept is to create an 'association' that has in it certain key-words that make one think that the goal is the opposite of the one intended by the founders of such, without giving any other indications.

'National' means 'the Federal State; the 'whole' nation).

'Rifle' is simple enough; (N.) a long-barrelled firearm, meant for home defence; (ADJ.) spiral grooves cut in to the inside of the cylinder (ADJ. tense usage 'rifling')  which induces a centrifugal spin to a ballistic projectile; thus inducing a gyroscopic effect and increasing the accuracy of the ballistics of a projectile at longer distances.

No where in these two words does it describe anything close to a group who promotes the Second Amendment or the natural right of defence against those who would wish to take life or liberty from others (simply the words 'rifle' and 'national' are used, and these could mean almost anything to those who penned it).

FELONS can get 'arms' any time they want to. They steal, barter, or trade other objects for them. They will not be stopped by 'gun registries' (or, the '68 Gun Control Act), as they are lawbreakers.

I like the Gun Owners Of America, personally, and will never have anything to do with the commiesymp NRA.

Try not to drink too much before posting. Your spelling gets all screwed up.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 00:09 | 4623885 TheReplacement
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Compromise:  Just kill the violent felons and everyone else gets to pack. 

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 01:45 | 4623988 SmackDaddy
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dont need to pack then.  just plink

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 20:16 | 4623348 RafterManFMJ
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So ... In Indiana

This spectacle looks like the movie set for ET: can you possibly imagine the amount of money pissed away on this setup?

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 20:37 | 4623429 kaiserhoff
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Thanks Rafter, duly logged for the treason trials.  Our tax money in action.

 The town originally was Iroquois land.

  For those not from the Midwest, so was pretty much everything north of the Ohio and east of the Big Muddy. 

  Where do they find these shit heads?  Oh yes, affirmative action.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 20:59 | 4623505 g speed
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you can bet your bottom dollar that half of that stuff will disappear into the "pockets" of the law  It's a shake down for sure.

Fri, 04/04/2014 - 00:18 | 4623903 TheReplacement
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That is literally nothing more than a treasure hunt and a way to ruin what are likely the last years of that man's life. 

These agents need to be forced to read the Constitution and the Bill of Rights before being whipped all in public.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 20:55 | 4623487 ThorAss
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Because you can only vote once, but you can buys as many guns, bombs and tanks as you think you need.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 20:55 | 4623488 ThorAss
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Because you can only vote once, but you can buys as many guns, bombs and tanks as you think you need.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 13:32 | 4621700 Dr. Richard Head
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Surpeme Court?  You mean the dictator's palace of yes men and usurpers?  To even get it there, one may have to be tased an arrested for just a little bit.  Perhaps like this guy -

There are too many Nazis with guns in this country and I don't mean the citizens.

Thu, 04/03/2014 - 14:05 | 4621861 Beam Me Up Scotty
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If they found Obamacare constitutional, they can ram anything down our throats.  Or up our asses.  They aren't there for freedom and liberty.  They are just another tenticle of .gov.   Its like government is a religion to so many people.  Like its the most important thing in their lives, and it must be fed and worshipped regularly to benefit from it. 

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