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Russia Summons German Ambassador After Schaeuble's Hitler-Putin Analogy
"Hitler took over the Sudetenland with such methods," warned German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble over the weekend, drawing parallels between Putin's push into Ukraine and the start of the Nazi occupation of Europe. This did not go down well in Moscow and German Ambassador Ruediger Freiherr von Fritsch was summoned to the Russian Foreign Ministry as the Russians lodged an official protest. Merkel was quick to distance herself from the remarks (which Russia calls a "trick") demanding that "a high-ranking official should take more responsibility for his words."
Schaeuble's comments...
"Nobody will be there to maintain order [in Ukraine]," Schaeuble said. Should such chaos ensue, Russian authorities may reason that "now we have some fascists threatening the population; now we have to protect them. We all know this from history. Hitler took over the Sudetenland with such methods."
As Bloomberg reports,
Russian Foreign Ministry condemns German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble for drawing “pseudo-historical” parallels between annexation of Crimea and Hitler’s pre-war seizure of Sudetenland from Czechoslovakia.
The Hitler analogy is a “gross distortion of historical events and facts,” ministry says.
Russia's foreign ministry statement:
A few days ago the German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble, speaking to students a Berlin school, spent unacceptable historical parallels between the reunification of the Crimea with Russia and Hitler's seizure policy in 1938, the Sudetenland was then Czechoslovakia and the subsequent transfer of control of the whole Czechoslovak territory.
We believe this kind of pseudo-German Minister provocative digressions. Admitted they are rough analogy juggling historical events and facts. Occupying high government official ministerial post in Germany must give an account of his words. It is noteworthy that this trick from Schaeuble distanced themselves Chancellor Angela Merkel and Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier.
Today, the Russian Foreign Ministry, Ambassador of Germany in Moscow appropriate representation was made.
And now Schaeuble is out defending himself...
- *SCHAEUBLE SAYS HE'S NOT `STUPID' TO COMPARE HITLER WITH OTHERS
- *SCHAEUBLE SAYS GERMANY WANTS `GOOD PARTNERSHIP' WITH RUSSIA
- *SCHAEUBLE SAYS HE WASN'T COMPARING HITLER AND PUTIN MAR 31
Hhhm, you decide if he was or was not...
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So a German... Lecturing Russians... Using German history?
yeah, funny that. germany just called putin a nazi. lulz
yeah like in iraq, syria, lybia , detroit....
Schaeuble's comments...
"Nobody will be there to maintain order [in U
Beginning to think 'Order' under all these governments is overrated.
Where were those comments in 1948?!? Wait... so the Jews did the same thing as... Hitler?
Germany should know!!
Ncht mit dem Bären ficken !!
Dumm Kopf!!
Schaeuble jumping the shark.
Dumm Kopf indeed.
Western assclown lapboys like SCHAEUBLE are jealous that Putin outfoxed them by reclaiming Crimea. They thought to intimidate Russia by stealing Sevastopol for themselves, and placing nukes to threaten Russia. They were too stupid to predict Putins reaction, and are upset over losing the big prize, and being stuck with the bailout of a bankrupt economic basketcase. Putin takes the gold, sticks them with the schiesse.
< Putin should annex germany
< Putin should nuke germany
Rossiya uber Duitsland!
Nobody gives a shit about Sevastopol.
No one needs it. Everyone can have nukes in Moscow in under two hours anyway.
The Euros just wanted to buy gas from someone else in quantity, and needed those pipelines to cross Ukraine.
The pro-Russians here are looking more and more like psychotic paranoid schizophrenics.
If anyone wanted to nuke Russia at any time in the last 20 years, or to steal territory, it was ripe for the taking.
No one wanted it. If they did they would have attacked when Russia was weaker and they were stronger. No one is interested in stealing Russian things with Armies when they can buy them for less money and blood.
Lots of people hoped they could set up market-responsive businesses in Russia - but it didn't work. It was too hard to get people to show up when scheduled for work at first, and later the Russian government and Milititsiya took too much in bribes. The only people making any money were the Russian Oligarchs who could keep the bureacrats in line.
People want oil and gas. But it is easier to buy it than to steal it.
Now the Russian security state freak show is bringing out their nut-jobs to proclaim that people intended to do things - that if true -would have been done 20 years ago.
the german ambassador to moscow has the same last name as a wehrmacht general during WWII....lol. gee the more things change the more they don't. wonder what the moscow boys think of that? during the ass chewing will they bring up the good generals' service to adolf and friends...lol. you just couldn't write a novel like this...nobody would believe it.
you just couldn't write a novel like this...nobody would believe it.
The actual history, and the wounds that exist in the region (Ukraine, Germany, Russia) are...well, to call them "severe" really wouldn't do them justice. Very nasty shit went down here, on a truly epic scale, militaries sadistically brutalizing each other and civilians, and I'm sure there are lots of people who remember it firsthand, and everyone else there has certainly studied it in (government) school, from their own government's perspective of course.
This was a region that should have been left relatively quiesced (and would have been by anyone with a knowledge of the history and a moral compass to go with it, so that leaves out virtually ALL politicians, the MIC, and greedy international bankers), and it is certainly one that was easy for interested parties to stir up, and soon to spin out of control.
Cui bono?
And just as importantly, who will suffer?
Seems like the region between Poland and France has always created trouble. Maybe Putin should just turn the place into a glazed emerald skating rink and save the rest of humanity.
Like I have stated before, Russia no longer trusts germany after being betrayed several times in the past.
China on the other hand, will have to learn the hard way that today's germany is no different than the british empire during the opium wars.
Na it was all legal like,
Foreign Office
November 2nd, 1917
Dear Lord Rothschild,
I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.
"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."
I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.
Yours sincerely,
Arthur James Balfour
Balfour and the english crown reneged on the declaration.
It was not until there was an ARMED uprising in Eretz Israel and the fact that the british nazi imperial stormtroopers were getting their asses kicked by the Hagana that the british crown decided to create a perpetual war zone in mandate palestine by partitioning the area in an idiotic way (violating the Balfour declarations original borders).
A promise similar to the the Balfour declaration was also made to the moslems by both the british and the germans.
"1948"
"so the Jews did the same thing as... Hitler?"
Why the past tense? What you allude to is present tense and has been non-stop since before 1948.
Schäuble is of course completely wrong. The US, France and Britain agreed that the Sudetenland is a part of Germany. They don´t agree on Crimea being part of Russia.
So... They took it from Germany in the Armistice in 1918 because (they said) it was not and should not be Germany's... But agreed it was Germany's in 1938?
This is reasonable consistent behavior?
This is what people demand to be a sovereign? It seems mostly psychotic.
Now everyone loves Putin, because he is not Obama?
I hoped at one time that mindless team-behavior in sports was not representative.
Sadly, it is.
We are going extinct. And we richly deserve it.
Nein nein nein... It's fucking EUROPE!
This shit's been going on for centuries.
So waddya expect?
Did I say the US EVER did something reasonable in Europe? Most of the trouble in Europe in the 20. century was caused by the US anyway.
Bollocks.
The US was largely uninvolved. Since WWII is a different matter, but not pre WWI and WWII.
Real trouble began when the US showed up in Europe at the end of WWI. Instead of a an end of the violence almost another century of hot and cold war was the result.
That was the intended "unintended consequence".
This is reasonable consistent behavior?
Sir, one does not use the above at any time when referring to politicians of any ilk.....its simply appalling, yes, sir, appalling that you would make such a fundimental error!
Dugald,
I was not referring to the politicians. I expect them to be psychopaths.
I was referring to the credulous sheep who ask no higher values of their politiicians, for whom political identity is no deeper than the jersey with the corporate/natilonalist logo they wear, and triggers less thought.
I hoped that behavior was only widespread on the sportsfield and represented only the lowest order of humanity.
It doesn't. This is all we are. There is nothing more there. Just thoughtless hairless chimpanzees with loud voices and quiet minds.
Who cares if the Russians have had a strategic Nuclear build-up. If this is all we can be then rejoice at the fire.
Looks like we'll all be plantin' granite gardens soon enough.
Aside nationalist rumblings the German populace of Sudetenland was as much German and part of greater Germany
as the Russians of Crimea are Russians and are free to rejoin Russia. What part of that you did not get ?
Germany as a nation comprised some part of the German tribes, what about if one has plenty of German ancestors but none despite of old Saxon aristocracy made it into the small Reich ?
Nationalism is a bitch and a pretty modern whorish one as such.
Schleubel was just talking in code to the children of the priveledged. What school was he at, it was probably a gymnasium for students heading into the civil service and education fields.
Who could possibly know better?
The US has lectured the rest of the world about self-determination while simultaneously orchestrating coups around the world for the better half of a century, and most Western nations have been complicit in those actions.
These people have lost whatever shred of credibility they once had.
"These people have lost whatever shred of credibility they once had."
I doubt that my great grandmother (long deceased) can claim to remember a day when such credibility existed.
Yeah,
We thought we had a Constitutional Liberal Republic with Rule of Law and only Enumerated Powers delegated to government.
We were wrong. That was overthrown in all but name a century ago.
But what makes you think Putin is any better?
How puffed and self righteous you all sound, when you are the ones that keep electing the bastards......get off your selves
Dugald, you should understand that "we the people" no longer elect anyone, the rulers are appointed and have been for a while now. The act of voting in the United States of America is nothing more than that, an ACT.
There be no shelter here
AD
Agree, but not half a century but more than a century.
Read "Overthrow: America's Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq" by Stephen Kinzer to see how foreign governments and leaders both elected and unelected have been destabilised and overthrown.
Time to put our own house in order instead of lecturing the world.
Pooty-Poot should just go all Pee Wee on him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs4Gj7JsET4
All the Western Politicians sound like weasels-
this is a coordinated game between Obama guys and EU to create MSM Hyperbole and hysteria - the populace in Germany is not buying nor the rest of europe in the street
Putin has a lot of sympathy everywhere due to the americans are now seen as vampires sucking peoples blood throughout the world
Putin should just get it over with
Who else should lecture on german history? Isnt it germans who know it the best?
And of course, Schaeuble is right. Russians took Crimea with the exact same pretext as Nazis took Sudetenland in 1938, ie "protecting" minorities. Theres no way around it, only blind cant see it.
Kaiten , you forgot the sarc tag.
No nation is in more denial about history than Germany.
Multiple re-educations, no lessons learned and a lethal national personality disorder complete with laws that
make DOUBTING the official versions a criminal offense.
Re " No nation is in more denial about history than Germany. "
Zee Jermanz don't even come close to Turkey - ask the Armenians, Serbs, Greeks, Kurds, Assyrians, Russians, et al. And the Turks have been at it - being a bad neighbor - for the better part of six centuries.
I can't think of anything funny now, I only feel deeply ashamed to be a german national. Deja vu - remember Kohl's Gorbachew - Goebbels comparison shortly before Gorbachew allowed German reunification. Hopefully the Russians are feeling sorry for us and have a heart for assholes. Sure they know there is a small number of non-Schäubles over here, some of them write on Goldseiten, for example.
So... I see the collective guilt-trip is still working.
I find it very odd that anyone can be ashamed of events they had nothing to do with, other than being born under a certain color flag years later.
german nationals do have something to do with the present bunch of politicians over there.
Don't worry.
German, is the derivation of your family. You share guilt in no crimes but your own.
Those who shame you for your birth ignore the circumstances of their own, and name themselves through their actions more clearly than they ever could with words.
Amongst nations there are no innocent parties, and never were.
Fuck google translate. History is being written and all we get is those highly misleading fucked up translations.
Stupid translations might further the impression that just another moron is talking . But this Schauble is one of the most dangerous characters wheeling the earth , get this scripted right Tyler.
Don't trust Google Translate. It is very flawed.
Saying that a move by Putin to take over Ukraine would make him just like Hitler is a far better tact than sanctions, if you actually want to prevent Putin from taking over Ukraine.
Putin gets all butthurt about it.
Putin can't take Ukraine without carrying a LOT of water for the Hitler comparison. This just can happen with a Russian, period.
Putin has a whole dance card to fill out before equaling the evil of Obama or Bush.
Why don't you make a guess on the number of people killed by the US compared to the number killed by Russia in the 21st century.
All 14 years into it?
Why not make a bigger window?
Why not look at the last 200 years?
It changes the picture somewhat.
But is a mass-murderer of a 500K or 600K really better than a mass murderer of a million? Or two?
Does it matter at all? These elites who run governments are scum and a danger to us all.
except failpoints are allocated for Russia being an ally AGAINST Hitler, and double-fail points are awarded for Germany having the gall to accuse anyone else of acting like Hitler.
Those are deal-breakers Putin can easily play.
If you want Putin butthurt and stumbling you need to fool him and corner him.
He's KGB. He's had many years to learn not to stumble as those did ended up in the ground.
Is he fooled? Is he cornered?
Maybe Putin should change his name to Netanyahu, Sharon, Peres, etc, and then build meandering walls in Ukraine cutting towns off from eachother, and then refuse to define exactly where the fuck Russia's borders are.
Germany doesn't seem to give a fuck about ISR doing that. Maybe Germany would GIVE new nuclear submarines to Putin. Perhaps Putin needs to immolate some Ukranians with white phosphorus and then bomb UN observation outposts. Assasinate journalists. Shoot children on their way to schools. Bomb a school. Rocket attack an ambulance. THAT seems to be just hunky dory with Germany and the USA. In fact, that type of behavior garners tens of billions of support, access to unscrubbed intellegence, and of course first crack at the USA's Strategic Petroleum Reserve.
Selective outrage is none at all.
I'm sure Vlad has done his share of assassinations. I barely know the atrocities committed by my own nation, I can only assume like atrocities have been committed elsewhere.
"Selective outrage is none at all."
Correct.
o "build meandering walls in Ukraine cutting towns off from eachother" -- done as part of Soviet planning.
o "refuse to define exactly where the fuck Russia's borders are" -- Check! That would appear to be the point.
o " Maybe Germany would GIVE new nuclear submarines to Putin" -- Well, it is not Germany, but FRANCE is doing that.
o "immolate some Ukranians with white phosphorus and then bomb UN observation outposts" -- Not Ukrainians - but the rest is true.
o "Assasinate journalists." -- Done KGB is famous for it.
o "Shoot children on their way to schools" -- DONE! All throughout the caucasus. You didnt' think the Chechens were mad about bad borsh did you?
o "Bomb a school. Rocket attack an ambulance." -- Done, and Done - again in the Caucasus and Central Asia. And you can add artillery strikes on entire cities.
Whose outrage is selective now?
Governments are scum.
So what you're saying is what we're missing is Russian Jews screaming in the streets that neonazis in Kyiv are threatening their right to exist and thanking Putin for his protection, very publicly, thus end-arounding all the sanction-talk?
Then for bonus points if Putin reaches out publicly to Naziyahoo in Israel for "helping Russian Jews stay safe in Crimea" the West would look like bafoons to say otherwise, yes?
Of course none of this is in any way, shape or form something moral but... dirty tricks, right?
Dasbidanya...don't get any on ya!
LOL http://flic.kr/p/m42Gkn
knock-knock...
Don't fuck with the Putin!
Oh yeahhhhhh .... I'd would.
lmfao that must be what a giant walking melanoma looks like!
Now I know why the Greeks are protesting, if that groosly looking freak of a prostitute is GOVERNING them, I know they are Right,
Great picture Bill, SHE DOES LOOK GROSS. yakk.
Putin: You see my hand..what is it doing? you see it turning the gas valve off...yes?
Well, it's true....
Putin has gone quite or is he waiting for more troops and arms first
Pressure is being put on Ukraine in other places:
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/russia-hikes-gas-prices-for-ukraine-squ...
4/1 $385.5 per 1000 cubic meters
4/3 $485 per 1000 cubic meters
If Ukraine your neck, you can see what is coming next.
OH SNAP!
Saw what you did tharrr
Since he found little/no physical resistance to annexing Crimea (vocal protests? Pffft!) there is no need to concentrate equipment and so he is revising his plans to start a much broader front. Logistics is a bit harder but victory comes faster.
He also waiting on a trainload of fresh russian passports (short expire dates) to hand out so the coming annexation votings, region by region, go as planned.
That little poison dwarf will end up with his head on a pike.
Politically or figureatively..
just in: Schaeuble commits suicide via nail gun 10 times to his head
He was flexible, all in the back of the head.
better: due to an unknown ability of adrenaline & agility no one suspected him of, he managed 2 final shots in the forehead after 6 in the back, clearly self-inflicted.
According to German news magazine Der Spiegel, the US National Security Agency kept a spy database on more than 100 world leaders. This included 300 files on German Chancellor Angela Merkel.
http://www.dw.de/spiegel-report-nsa-spied-on-122-world-leaders-kept-300-...
Germany is totally controlled by America. Merkel is totally compromised. No German politician dared to attend the Sochi Olympics.
So there is no point in summoning the German ambassador as he represents a compromised, controlled state.
So... you're saying those two world wars weren't in vain then?
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article4053361.ece
Greek government in turmoil after secret Golden Dawn video is released
The Greek government is teetering on the brink of collapse after explosive claims by the Prime Minister’s aide that neo-fascist MPs were arrested on trumped up charges in order to win the votes for the ruling party.
Surprise surprise... NOT.
Russian scout ship Liman spotted 15 miles from Odessa
Lithuania says rising number of Russian jets flying too close for comfort - @Reuters
In the past 48 hours, the governments of Armenia, Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan have resigned
Russia recalls ambassador to NATO amid Ukraine tensions
Elite Russian paratroopers in Pskov conduct airborne exercise just east of Estonian border
http://theaviationist.com/2014/04/03/b-52-b-2-global-strike/
While Russia deploys strategic bombers to Crimea... Two B-52 and two B-2 bombers perform 20-hour long synchronized attack on Hawaii’s training rangeRussian humor :
Crimea Crisis: Russia Tells U.S. To Chill Out, 'Practice Yoga'
http://nationalinterest.org/commentary/no-war-russia-dont-be-so-sure-10177
No War with Russia? Don't Be So Surehttp://freebeacon.com/national-security/admiral-warns-that-risk-of-nucle...
Admiral Warns that Risk of Nuclear Conflict Is Growing Stratcom: Large-scale Russian strategic nuclear buildup has been underway for over a decade
Does golden Dawn happen to own a bookstore in UK by any chanche?
Reality sometimes stranger than fiction, you couldn't make it up: Hitler's Book 'Mein Kampf' Promoted As 'The Perfect Present' In British Bookstore
The only time people are guaranteed to be wrong are when they praise politicians.
Seems to me comparisons to Hitler are occupational hazards to those who use Armies to have their way.
If it works for GW & Obama - why not Putin too?
People are acting like the man was born of a virgin.
He's a politician for crying out loud!
Fair. And Putin is fucking former KBG, so nothing more needs to be said. He is evil regardless of what is happening.
But, for anyone with half a brain, comparisons to Hitler are just weak for so many reasons. Its clearly just to paint Putin in the most negative light possible. Nothing more.
It also might be the only tactic that would prevent a Russian from acting aggressively against a smaller nation. No Russian wants to be called a fascist or a Hitler.
That's right.
Moreover, Russia has been the victim of countless brutal land invasions, pogroms, etc.
They are very sensitive when it is calmly pointed out to them that what they are doing looks a lot like what was done to them.
I could give a crap whether Crimea went to Russia. I feel sorry for the Ukrainians that have been dominated and brutalized by the Russians for centuries - in fact whose national existence is DEFINED by that domination and brutalization (before which they were just plain Russians).
At issue is how Putin and Crimea went about it.
Had they done the referendum on schedule with Russian troops still on the Russian bases - particularly if it were after the next Ukrainian elections - then it would be seen as a no-confidence vote in Ukraine, a mark of self-determination, and very hard for Westerners to object to without looking like even more of hypocritical assholes than they already do.
Instead, they put the Army on the street - without identification in defiance of the Hague and Geneva Conventions NO LESS! They accelerated the referendum, and put 200K troops on their Western border.
The way they went about it was calculated to raise tensions and scare the bejesus out of their western neighbors.
Now...
Why?
Why when it would have been so easy to stay the course and get Crimea anyway, but with less fanfare?
European rhetoric is that it is simply conquest.
In DC it is said Putin is reassembling the Soviet Union.
In ZH it is said that Putin is consolidating a gas monopoly to Europe.
But whatever the reason for why this was done provocatively, you can be sure that it was done provocatively FOR A REASON.
O's face more appropriate here
Jesus H Christ how fucking pathetic and juvenile of Schaeuble.
Someone needs to remind Merkel that she's our Bitch!
Merkel is the female German political equavalent of Obama
Yeah. They both swallow.
.
Life is too short, and not nearly dear enough to grovel at any politician's boots - east or west.
The New World Order is like Hitler and Putin is like Thomas Jefferson.
Thomas Jefferson?
Putin?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Putin throws his detractors in jail without charge or a shallow grave. The rich ones get trumped up charges.
Putin supports a strong centralized government with a unitary executive.
Thomas Jefferson couldn't abide judicial review of constitutional cases as he felt it would centralize too much power.
The two are as alike as Golden Retriever and a Pit Bull. The only thing they have in common is their species.
Thinking about growing myself one of those Hitler 'stashes. Totally fetch!
The empire has no clothes.
Which one?
There seems to be several empires involved.
If only it had the curvaceous body of marilyn in 7 year itch to show for it !
It's a trademark dispute. No one likes other people copyin' their style.
zis guy is a crazycat ya.
he super cool like u2 pub rocker bonio and actris gorge clooney all members of cool night club called nato.
plenty fun times wall to walls boy girls refugees from all overs.
Wolfgang Schaeuble ist a proud masonic.
typicals flaccid german that likes raping childrens of der worlds he allways spoils der kinder by surprise.
Schaeuble knows that what Putin did is a lot like what Hitler did. Schaeuble also knows what Germany is doing now, through the EU and IMF, to countries like Greece and Spain, is a far better way to 'conquer' other countries and their citizens. The main difference is that Crimean citizens voted FOR this -- whereas Portugal and Cypress etc got over-run by bankers let in without any chance for the citizens to vote on being taken over.
Just out of curiousity, what exactly did Putin do that can be compared to Hitler? 'Annexing' Crimea? That one action? Not enough to compare the two.
Well, it can be if you want to point a lot of fingers but then Obama would be higher up on the list than Putin, as would Bush.
ZH has the best set of Vlad thumbnail images in existence.
He himself being compared to Hitler in Greece he wanted somebody else to take over that position. But it is really a stupid thing to say and it really weakens your own position.
The “trick” is simply the appeal bankers need to increase their leverage against Russia in this crisis. And that leverage is the use of more lies from the western media.
Taking a break from celebrating Obama’s phony 7 million ObamaCare sign-up lie, the media can now review for us the entire Sudetenland story, complete with swastikas, concentration camps and the whole nine yards.
Schaeuble has been called by critics the number one “Zionist European Union finance minister.”
And he’s completely on board with the expansion of the banker empire throughout the world. Here he is in October 2012:
“"I am convinced that the regulatory monopoly of the old-fashioned nation state is over. Therefore we have to find a new model for global governance." -- Wolfgang Schäuble October 2012
http://thebritishresistance.co.uk/writers/the-editor27/2216-wolfgang-schaeuble-is-number-one
Ha ha ha, after Schaeuble's Germany has taken over SOuthern Europe, lock stock and barrel, its ironic to hear the Finance Minister of this awesome concoction; now evident after 4 long years of ECB shenanigans under the Deutsch "uber alles" gun; that Mutti's Germany has no intention to take into account the asymmetric divide in Eurozone; north and south.
In fact alike Sarko and Brown-- those other Euro clowns along with the EU front organisation--- she has ruthlessly taken advantage of this collapse of first world economies, where the German Schroeder model; built five years earlier under duress; has shown its relative efficacy. In a Euro zone of "wankers united INC".
Where, in this currency war imposed by Pax Americana in the wake of 2008 collapse, the North has repeatedly shown it is is perfectly happy with a Euro at 1.40 USD, whereas the south desperately needs a Euro at par or at 1.1 to the USD to refind economic growth and rebuild its model now in corrupt statist as well as banksta induced tatters.
But Mutti's dictat of making ECB the carbon copy of Bundesbank means the south can rot in hell all the while Germany's export economy has over the last four years moved its attention to OST politik and selling to US market; aka diversifying BIGTIME
In fact, the German economy NEEDS the euro south market outlets less and less, all the while it imposes on the South its inexorable dictat!
I don't want to absolve the South for its past sins of which France is PRIME culprit with its statist and non competitive economy; given that Pax Americana imposed its neo-liberal and outsourcing model on the world since 1984-1987 !!!
That the French and the SOuth took so Long to understand that the Keynesian model was dead is a mystery that bemuses my own mind; as this was evident FROM DAY 1, when Volcker introduced the interest rate hike and Maggie tore into the Unions like the great white shark. Ronnie's work had been cut out by this double whammy that announced the neo-liberal revolution.
And we got it right up the ass all the way to Blythe Masters and the derivatve soup concoction.
For those who like historic parallels the derivative scam of Pax Americana is comparable to the Indulgence Scam of the Popes of the Renaissance.
It took a Martin Luther to expose it by nailng his 95 conditions on the wall, a bit like ZH has nailed its heresy-- along with many others-- on WS shenanigans and Pax Americana cronyism post Lehman moment.
Hat tip to the new Luthers of this convoluted age !
fully agree..putin should make schauble blow him
France always was south fala and all Germans ever needed
was making holiday with a bargain on the exchange rate at any of those nice hopelessly relaxed places but with a common culture of sorts. Assholes among themselves
happily offend but don`t fake it either for conquering
the place .
"Mein Fuhrer, these plans I have concocted will allow us to take over Europe via economic means."
"Nein, my dear Speer. I have already built the Wehrmacht! Put the economic plans in the safe. We may use them later.
"Ja, mein Fuhrer."
"Speer, a future Fuhrer may find a way to control Europe that way. But for us, it is War."
The south’s bankers are sapping Germany in order that the bankers can have their European Union. If it weren’t for constantly nicking the German taxpayers and workers, there wouldn’t be any fuel for the EU.
The only thing you need to know is that the bankers are running this thing and they have to keep the European Union together for their extraction of resources. And then, of course, the bankers lean on all the politicians from Greece to Merkel, trying to make them come across with policies that support the EU. Once you know this, everything else fits together.
The bankers would love to have sovereignty dissolved so that they don't have to go through this difficult process of constantly bribing the polilticians to get what they want. Then they can do whatever it takes...
schaeuble is an old fool. look who's lecturing people about nazis. germany has really lost its compass.
Putin's relatives fought the Nazis and some died. WWII happened because the West rebuffed the Soviet Union on an alliance against Hitler, which was offered throughout 1936 to 1939.
The German jackass should resign.
Uhhh...
Not to burst your bubble, but Stalin was in an ALLIANCE WITH HITLER until Hitler broke it by invading.
Exactly. Stalin was incredibly undependable playing all of his cards, not for opposition to Germany, but for an increase in Soviet territory.
The East was always Hitler's primary target and was increasingly fueled by the near revolutionary tactics of Bolsheviks flooding into Germany following WWI, successful even to the point of occupying some German cities.
There was no greater animosity than that held by the Germans against the growing tide and danger of the Bolsheviks and their bloody history, includuing the deaths by starvation and murder of 7.5 million in Stalin's Ukraine mass starvation of 1932-33 that murdered up to 7.5 million Ukrainians.
The American Zionist movement, which has captured much of the mainstream media, constantly uses Hitler and the Nazis as the primary threat to western civilization and this same media and movement almost completely ignores the 70 years of activity and threat primarily under Lenin and Stalin and the dangers of Bolshevism (founded on an intellectual adherence to Marxism) which continues to this day.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Pootin is only in his 3rd term, meaning he will be around until 2024 at least unless by some miracle he doesn't go for reelection. Keeping this in mind, it strikes me as odd that the Germans think Hitler comparisons is the correct way to build a good partnership with Russia. Merkel clearly doesn't enjoy much respect from her fellow politicians.
"von Ribbentrop says Fuhrer Calls for Better Russian Relations"
"Churchhill explodes in Parliment. Slaps foreign minister Eden upside his noggin"
"FDR thinks up Daily Price of Gold...Morganthau preplexed"
"DiMaggio's hits seal Yanks win over Baltimore"
"Patton Lands in Morrocco - then insults the Sultan"
"I'm shocked, I'm shocked to find that gambling is going on in here."
"Rick, we must have the Letters of Transit!"
Unreal.
Somebody needs to remind Schaeuble of HIS role in the replacement of the elected Greek and Italian governments with EU-Goldman-placemen.
Gets worse and worse.
Does no one think that now instead of one Soviet Union we may be looking at three of them: US, EU, and RU?
Indeed. This has always been the secret intention. To create a totalitarian NWO based upon Marxist-socialist ideology. Whether the citizenry of the world want it is of no importance.
The Jewish thing aside...Hitler was one of the greatest leaders in history...what he did for Germany was unprecendented...being compared to him is an honor.
Hitler was one of the greatest leaders in history
if you think that then you are a jew hater a nazi and the new hiltler
no wonder my people have fled.
all left the israeli embassies and have returned home to the place where we killed jesus.
sitting in basements all over israel waiting for the big mossad production to begin
I suppose that other stuff with Poland, Amsterdam, gays, blacks, doesn't mean much either? Or the Blitzkrieg bombing of England? My mom survived that bombing, by the way.
Whats with the charlie chaplin mustache?
"a high-ranking official should take more responsibility for his words."
That's riseable. The US should keep quiet... Biden? Obama?
Putin is more like Kaiser Wilhelm than Hitler. But since we're villianizing dead german leaders today it doesn't matter.
So when Russian/German relations normalize again , he will resign ?
Hopefully
here's a non-google translated perspective on what happened from voice of russia:
Moscow voiced protest over the German finance minister’s remarks that drew parallels between Crimea’s reunification with Russia and Hitler’s policy. "Several days ago, speaking to the pupils of one of the Berlin schools, German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble drew unacceptable historical parallels between Crimea’s reunification with Russia and Hitler’s policy to seize the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia in 1938 and subsequent establishment of control over the whole Czechoslovak territory," the Russian Foreign Ministry said on Thursday, April 3.
"We consider such pseudo historical excursions by the German minister provocative. His parallels are a gross manipulation with historical events and facts," the ministry said.
"A government official holding a senior ministerial position in Germany must be fully aware of what he says," it said, adding that "German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Foreign Minister Steinmeier hurried to distance themselves from Schaeuble’s escapade".
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_04_03/Russia-slams-German-minister-for-provocative-comments-over-Crimea-reunification-2657/
Oh, Puh-Leeze, Crackah!
I could give a crap whether Crimea went to Russia. I feel sorry for the Ukrainians that have been dominated and brutalized by the Russians for centuries - in fact whose national existence is DEFINED by that domination and brutalization (before which they were just plain Russians).
At issue is how Putin and Crimea went about it.
Had they done the referendum on schedule with Russian troops still on the Russian bases - particularly if it were after the next Ukrainian elections - then it would be seen as a no-confidence vote in Ukraine, a mark of self-determination, and very hard for Westerners to object to without looking like even more of hypocritical assholes than they already do.
Instead, they put the Army on the street - without identification in defiance of the Hague and Geneva Conventions NO LESS! They accelerated the referendum, and put 200K troops on their Western borders with a whole host of nations.
The way they went about it was calculated to raise tensions and scare the bejesus out of their western neighbors.
Now...
Why?
Why when it would have been so easy to stay the course and get Crimea anyway, but with less fanfare?
European rhetoric is that it is simply conquest.
In DC it is said Putin is reassembling the Soviet Union.
In ZH it is said that Putin is consolidating a gas monopoly to Europe.
But whatever the reason for why this was done provocatively, you can be sure that it was done provocatively FOR A REASON.
Revenge of the Sith: NSA(?) taped chat of two Russian ambassadors in Africa on the matter of UN General Assembly vote on Crimea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xJK00daiKD8
Russian speakers will undoubtedly enjoy easy colloquial language instilled by the years of diplomatic service.
That is a fantastic recording!
If it is authentic it is chilling!
The sounds, like the distinctive dial-tone, are correct.
However, the translation, while generally accurate, contains a lot of obscene adjectivees and adverbs that are simply not in the conversation.
There is also no way to know whether it records the people it supposes to record.
But, again, if it is genuine it details strong-arming a number of nations in UN votes, forcing others to abstain by way of threats of invasion, and details how a wide variety of nations and regions are to be annexed.
On a side note, it is not clear whether the speakers are joking about some of these proposed 'annexations'. They sound outlandish, such as 'Californialand', 'Miamiland', and 'Alaska'.
On the other hand, my in-laws (all of whom are Russians living in Moscow) openly told me that "many, many Russians believe Alaska belongs to Russia".
Countries, unfortunately, are like mobs. The lowest common denominator seems to rule them, such that countries routinely do things tha individual people would never consider doing with their neighbors.
It suddenly brought the new meaning to the old Soviet joke, where a professor in the diplomatic academy discusses how students did on the assignment: to compose a draft of the diplomatic note of the USSR in response to sinking of the fishing vessel by the suddenly surfaced Russian nuclear submarine. "Everyone did well", says he, "A couple of grammatical remarks: "Fuck off" is to be written as two words, while "motherfuckers" as one".
Yeah,
Nu kazhdi drochit kak on hochit.
Very weird here today. Any suggestion that Putin is less than a saint meets howls of outrage.
Seems a lot of people can't face the world without a flesh-and-blood savior in the form of a politician to worship.
Seems many just can't accept that maybe all of them are bad.
My fate in ZH is a bit shaken: used to admire perceived wisdom and depth of reporting on topics pertaining to HFT, Mr Yelen, GS, QE etc, but seeing how shallow the comprehension of the Crimea affair is, makes one wonder if the rest is not that deep after all.
You have learned that strawman argument well from Obama. No one here thinks Putin is a saint.
But he is giving a hiding to the people who are oppressing the US, and for that he is welcome. He is also not sanctimonious about his behavior, while Obama and his fellow oppressors are, and that dishonest pious talk really gets up people's nose.
And unlike Obama, Putin is competent and economical in action, because he is moving with local support. That is why Crimea has returned to Russia with scarcely a shot fired or a person killed. Rather unlike Obama's bloody coup in Kiev, let alone the perpetual droning deaths of innocents around the world.
And Putin is not waging war around the globe. He has acted only in Russia's immediate vicinity, in a locality that has historically been Russian.
No Putin is not a saint. But the sad thing is he actuall looks like a saint compared to Obama and his fellow oppressors of the US and of most of the world.
"...rather unlike Obama's bloody coup in Kiev..."
Please explain how was it Obama's coup? Perhaps by virtue of McCain's travels or maybe by spending $5bln as RT alleges? Or are you denying on general principle a possibility of genuine public uprising? In which case what would be a fair amount to pay a person to go out and get the bullet through the neck? Is yours available?
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In this instance, most assuredly.
Presumably because docile Ukrainian sheeple had every reason to be perfectly content with being dragged back into USSR?
Not to play down all the 'Horror' that Putin fanboys have expressed over a German Politician calling a Russian Politician Hitler.
But....
Here are some Russians doing the same thing. The speaker is not speaking with a western accent and seems to be a native Russian speaker. The title is "Ashamed to be Russian" and is in direct response to the Ukraine situation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLG1-FaVyWE
It is strange how many hyperventilate at insults to Putin.
Strange. I don't think I've seen that reaction here in support of any Politician ever.
Very, very strange.
Not to play down all the 'Horror' that Putin fanboys have expressed over a German Politician calling a Russian Politician Hitler.
But....
Here are some Russians doing the same thing. The speaker is not speaking with a western accent and seems to be a native Russian speaker. The title is "Ashamed to be Russian" and is in direct response to the Ukraine situation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLG1-FaVyWE
It is strange how many hyperventilate at insults to Putin.
Strange. I don't think I've seen that reaction here in support of any Politician ever.
Very, very strange.