Russia Summons German Ambassador After Schaeuble's Hitler-Putin Analogy

Tyler Durden's picture

"Hitler took over the Sudetenland with such methods," warned German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble over the weekend, drawing parallels between Putin's push into Ukraine and the start of the Nazi occupation of Europe. This did not go down well in Moscow and German Ambassador Ruediger Freiherr von Fritsch was summoned to the Russian Foreign Ministry as the Russians lodged an official protest. Merkel was quick to distance herself from the remarks (which Russia calls a "trick") demanding that "a high-ranking official should take more responsibility for his words."

Schaeuble's comments...

"Nobody will be there to maintain order [in Ukraine]," Schaeuble said. Should such chaos ensue, Russian authorities may reason that "now we have some fascists threatening the population; now we have to protect them. We all know this from history. Hitler took over the Sudetenland with such methods."

As Bloomberg reports,

Russian Foreign Ministry condemns German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble for drawing “pseudo-historical” parallels between annexation of Crimea and Hitler’s pre-war seizure of Sudetenland from Czechoslovakia.

 

The Hitler analogy is a “gross distortion of historical events and facts,” ministry says.

Russia's foreign ministry statement:

A few days ago the German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble, speaking to students a Berlin school, spent unacceptable historical parallels between the reunification of the Crimea with Russia and Hitler's seizure policy in 1938, the Sudetenland was then Czechoslovakia and the subsequent transfer of control of the whole Czechoslovak territory.

 

We believe this kind of pseudo-German Minister provocative digressions. Admitted they are rough analogy juggling historical events and facts. Occupying high government official ministerial post in Germany must give an account of his words. It is noteworthy that this trick from Schaeuble distanced themselves Chancellor Angela Merkel and Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier.

 

Today, the Russian Foreign Ministry, Ambassador of Germany in Moscow appropriate representation was made.

And now Schaeuble is out defending himself...

  • *SCHAEUBLE SAYS HE'S NOT `STUPID' TO COMPARE HITLER WITH OTHERS
  • *SCHAEUBLE SAYS GERMANY WANTS `GOOD PARTNERSHIP' WITH RUSSIA
  • *SCHAEUBLE SAYS HE WASN'T COMPARING HITLER AND PUTIN MAR 31

Hhhm, you decide if he was or was not...

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Herd Redirection Committee's picture

So a German... Lecturing Russians...  Using German history?

buzzsaw99's picture

yeah, funny that. germany just called putin a nazi. lulz

smlbizman's picture

yeah like in iraq, syria, lybia , detroit....

 

Schaeuble's comments...

"Nobody will be there to maintain order [in U

gcjohns1971's picture

Beginning to think 'Order' under all these governments is overrated.

The Juggernaut's picture

Where were those comments in 1948?!?  Wait... so the Jews did the same thing as... Hitler?

Headbanger's picture

Germany should know!!

Ncht mit dem Bären ficken !!

Dumm Kopf!!

ebworthen's picture

Schaeuble jumping the shark.

Dumm Kopf indeed.

Latina Lover's picture

Western assclown lapboys like  SCHAEUBLE are  jealous that Putin outfoxed them by reclaiming Crimea. They thought to intimidate Russia by stealing Sevastopol for themselves, and placing nukes to threaten Russia. They were too stupid to predict Putins reaction, and are upset over losing the big prize, and being stuck with the bailout of a bankrupt economic basketcase.  Putin takes the gold, sticks them with the schiesse.

Ahmeexnal's picture

< Putin should annex germany
< Putin should nuke germany

Rossiya uber Duitsland!

gcjohns1971's picture

Nobody gives a shit about Sevastopol.

No one needs it.  Everyone can have nukes in Moscow in under two hours anyway.

The Euros just wanted to buy gas from someone else in quantity, and needed those pipelines to cross Ukraine.

The pro-Russians here are looking more and more like psychotic paranoid schizophrenics.

If anyone wanted to nuke Russia at any time in the last 20 years,  or to steal territory, it was ripe for the taking.

No one wanted it.  If they did they would have attacked when Russia was weaker and they were stronger.  No one is interested in stealing Russian things with Armies when they can buy them for less money and blood.

Lots of people hoped they could set up market-responsive businesses in Russia - but it didn't work. It was too hard to get people to show up when scheduled for work at first, and later the Russian government and Milititsiya took too much in bribes.  The only people making any money were the Russian Oligarchs who could keep the bureacrats in line.

People want oil and gas.  But it is easier to buy it than to steal it.

Now the Russian security state freak show is bringing out their nut-jobs to proclaim that people intended to do things - that if true -would have been done 20 years ago.

greyghost's picture

the german ambassador to moscow has the same last name as a wehrmacht general during WWII....lol. gee the more things change the more they don't. wonder what the moscow boys think of that? during the ass chewing will they bring up the good generals' service to adolf and friends...lol. you just couldn't write a novel like this...nobody would believe it.

SWRichmond's picture

you just couldn't write a novel like this...nobody would believe it.

The actual history, and the wounds that exist in the region (Ukraine, Germany, Russia) are...well, to call them "severe" really wouldn't do them justice.  Very nasty shit went down here, on a truly epic scale, militaries sadistically brutalizing each other and civilians, and I'm sure there are lots of people who remember it firsthand, and everyone else there has certainly studied it in (government) school, from their own government's perspective of course.

This was a region that should have been left relatively quiesced (and would have been by anyone with a knowledge of the history and a moral compass to go with it, so that leaves out virtually ALL politicians, the MIC, and greedy international bankers), and it is certainly one that was easy for interested parties to stir up, and soon to spin out of control.

Cui bono?

And just as importantly, who will suffer?

Ahmeexnal's picture

Seems like the region between Poland and France has always created trouble. Maybe Putin should just turn the place into a glazed emerald skating rink and save the rest of humanity.

Like I have stated before, Russia no longer trusts germany after being betrayed several times in the past.

China on the other hand, will have to learn the hard way that today's germany is no different than the british empire during the opium wars.

WTFx10's picture

Na it was all legal like,

Foreign Office
November 2nd, 1917

Dear Lord Rothschild,

I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.

"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."

I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.

Yours sincerely,
Arthur James Balfour 

Ahmeexnal's picture

Balfour and the english crown reneged on the declaration.
It was not until there was an ARMED uprising in Eretz Israel and the fact that the british nazi imperial stormtroopers were getting their asses kicked by the Hagana that the british crown decided to create a perpetual war zone in mandate palestine by partitioning the area in an idiotic way (violating the Balfour declarations original borders).

A promise similar to the the Balfour declaration was also made to the moslems by both the british and the germans.

chemystical's picture

"1948"

"so the Jews did the same thing as... Hitler?"

Why the past tense?  What you allude to is present tense and has been non-stop since before 1948.

Wolferl's picture

Schäuble is of course completely wrong. The US, France and Britain agreed that the Sudetenland is a part of Germany. They don´t agree on Crimea being part of Russia.

gcjohns1971's picture

So... They took it from Germany in the Armistice in 1918 because (they said) it was not and should not be Germany's... But agreed it was Germany's in 1938?

This is reasonable consistent behavior?

This is what people demand to be a sovereign?  It seems mostly psychotic.

Now everyone loves Putin, because he is not Obama?

I hoped at one time that mindless team-behavior in sports was not representative.

Sadly, it is.

We are going extinct.  And we richly deserve it.

Headbanger's picture

Nein nein nein...  It's fucking EUROPE!

This shit's been going on for centuries.

So waddya expect?

Wolferl's picture

Did I say the US EVER did something reasonable in Europe? Most of the trouble in Europe in the 20. century was caused by the US anyway.

bagehot99's picture

Bollocks.

The US was largely uninvolved. Since WWII is a different matter, but not pre WWI and WWII.

Wolferl's picture

Real trouble began when the US showed up in Europe at the end of WWI. Instead of a an end of the violence almost another century of hot and cold war was the result.

Anusocracy's picture

That was the intended "unintended consequence".

Dugald's picture

 

This is reasonable consistent behavior?

Sir, one does not use the above at any time when referring to politicians of any ilk.....its simply appalling, yes, sir, appalling that you would make such a fundimental error!

gcjohns1971's picture

Dugald,

 

I was not referring to the politicians.  I expect them to be psychopaths.

 

I was referring to the credulous sheep who ask no higher values of their politiicians, for whom political identity is no deeper than the jersey with the corporate/natilonalist logo they wear, and triggers less thought.

I hoped that behavior was only widespread on the sportsfield and represented only the lowest order of humanity.

It doesn't.  This is all we are. There is nothing more there.  Just thoughtless hairless chimpanzees with loud voices and quiet minds.

Who cares if the Russians have had a strategic Nuclear build-up.  If this is all we can be then rejoice at the fire.

MeelionDollerBogus's picture

Looks like we'll all be plantin' granite gardens soon enough.

TheGardener's picture

Aside nationalist rumblings the German populace of Sudetenland was as much German and part of greater Germany
as the Russians of Crimea are Russians and are free to rejoin Russia. What part of that you did not get ?

Germany as a nation comprised some part of the German tribes, what about if one has plenty of German ancestors but none despite of old Saxon aristocracy made it into the small Reich ?

Nationalism is a bitch and a pretty modern whorish one as such.

dogbreath's picture

Schleubel was just talking in code to the children of the priveledged.  What school was he at, it was probably a gymnasium for students heading into the civil service and education fields.  

gcjohns1971's picture

Who could possibly know better?

McMolotov's picture

The US has lectured the rest of the world about self-determination while simultaneously orchestrating coups around the world for the better half of a century, and most Western nations have been complicit in those actions.

These people have lost whatever shred of credibility they once had.

chemystical's picture

"These people have lost whatever shred of credibility they once had."

I doubt that my great grandmother (long deceased) can claim to remember a day when such credibility existed.

gcjohns1971's picture

Yeah,

We thought we had a Constitutional Liberal Republic with Rule of Law and only Enumerated Powers delegated to government.

We were wrong.  That was overthrown in all but name a century ago.

 

But what makes you think Putin is any better?

Dugald's picture

 

How puffed and self righteous you all sound, when you are the ones that keep electing the bastards......get off your selves

American Dreams's picture

Dugald, you should understand that "we the people" no longer elect anyone, the rulers are appointed and have been for a while now.  The act of voting in the United States of America is nothing more than that, an ACT.

There be no shelter here

AD

 

tonyw's picture

Agree, but not half a century but more than a century.

Read "Overthrow: America's Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq" by Stephen Kinzer to see how foreign governments and leaders both elected and unelected have been destabilised and overthrown.

Time to put our own house in order instead of lecturing the world.

doctor10's picture

All the Western Politicians sound like weasels-

Omen IV's picture

this is a coordinated game between Obama guys and EU to create MSM Hyperbole and hysteria - the populace in Germany is not buying nor the rest of europe in the street

Putin has a lot of sympathy everywhere due to the americans are now seen as vampires sucking peoples blood throughout the world

Putin should just get it over with

kaiten's picture

Who else should lecture on german history? Isnt it germans who know it the best?

And of course, Schaeuble is right. Russians took Crimea with the exact same pretext as Nazis took Sudetenland in 1938, ie "protecting" minorities. Theres no way around it, only blind cant see it.

 

TheGardener's picture

Kaiten , you forgot the sarc tag.

No nation is in more denial about history than Germany.

Multiple re-educations, no lessons learned and a lethal national personality disorder complete with laws that
make DOUBTING the official versions a criminal offense.

pot_and_kettle's picture

 

 

Re " No nation is in more denial about history than Germany. "

Zee Jermanz don't even come close to Turkey - ask the Armenians, Serbs, Greeks, Kurds, Assyrians, Russians, et al.   And the Turks have been at it - being a bad neighbor - for the better part of six centuries.

 

WVO Biker's picture

I can't think of anything funny now, I only feel deeply ashamed to be a german national. Deja vu - remember Kohl's Gorbachew - Goebbels comparison shortly before Gorbachew allowed German reunification. Hopefully the Russians are feeling sorry for us and have a heart for assholes. Sure they know there is a small number of non-Schäubles over here, some of them write on Goldseiten, for example.    

NotApplicable's picture

So... I see the collective guilt-trip is still working.

I find it very odd that anyone can be ashamed of events they had nothing to do with, other than being born under a certain color flag years later.

johny2's picture

german nationals do have something to do with the present bunch of politicians over there. 

gcjohns1971's picture

Don't worry.

German, is the derivation of your family.  You share guilt in no crimes but your own.

Those who shame you for your birth ignore the circumstances of their own, and name themselves through their actions more clearly than they ever could with words.

Amongst nations there are no innocent parties, and never were.

TheGardener's picture

Fuck google translate. History is being written and all we get is those highly misleading fucked up translations.

Stupid translations might further the impression that just another moron is talking . But this Schauble is one of the most dangerous characters wheeling the earth , get this scripted right Tyler.

gcjohns1971's picture

Don't trust Google Translate.  It is very flawed.

TheReplacement's picture

Saying that a move by Putin to take over Ukraine would make him just like Hitler is a far better tact than sanctions, if you actually want to prevent Putin from taking over Ukraine.

Putin gets all butthurt about it.

Putin can't take Ukraine without carrying a LOT of water for the Hitler comparison.  This just can happen with a Russian, period.

Anusocracy's picture

Putin has a whole dance card to fill out before equaling the evil of Obama or Bush.

Why don't you make a guess on the number of people killed by the US compared to the number killed by Russia in the 21st century.

gcjohns1971's picture

All 14 years into it?

Why not make a bigger window?

Why not look at the last 200 years?

It changes the picture somewhat.

But is a mass-murderer of a 500K or 600K  really better than a mass murderer of a million? Or two?

Does it matter at all?  These elites who run governments are scum and a danger to us all.