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Senate Panel Votes To Ask Obama To Declassify Bush-Era "Torture Report"
The bitter battle between a spied-upon Senate panel and the sanctioned spiers (CIA) over interrogation techniques and deleted files just escalated...
- *SENATE PANEL VOTES 11-3 FOR DECLASSIFYING INTERROGATION REPORT
- *FEINSTEIN SAYS CIA REPORT CHRONICLES 'STAIN' ON HISTORY
- *FEINSTEIN SAYS CIA MADE 'SERIOUS MISTAKES' THAT HAUNT U.S.
- *SENATE INTELLIGENCE VOTE ASKS OBAMA TO ISSUE REDACTED REPORT
Of course, some might see this as a distraction pre-elections (a baffle 'em with Bush-shit moment) but that would be a conspiracy 'theory'...
As AP reports,
The Senate intelligence committee has voted to release parts of a classified report that harshly criticizes CIA terror interrogations after 9/11.
The vote to declassify the 6,300-page review's summary was 11-3. The "torture report" argues CIA methods were often cruel and ineffective. The agency disputes the findings.
The two sides are embroiled in a bitter dispute.
Senators accuse the agency of spying on their investigation and deleting files. The CIA says Senate staffers illegally accessed information. The Justice Department is reviewing competing criminal referrals.
President Barack Obama supports releasing the report.
Spokesman Jay Carney says the president will instruct intelligence agencies to conduct declassification work quickly.
Remember - Spying And Torture are best friends...
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Don't mention the NSA.
Nevermind Benghazi too. As we're told, 'what does any of that matter, it's ancient old history!'
and how about declassifying all the info on obamao's drone murder spree around the world while we are at it.
The Demoncrats are desperate.
The RINOs, especially the ones pushing amnesty, are no better than the Dems. The Democrats are total shit. The USSA does not have real elections anyway.
And we are Green....whew
What are the odds of them releasing the Obama-era reports...?
Really..., these Dems are laughable.
(as well as and the other side of the isle)
Yup, it's all theater, they know their lines for the soap opera that entrances the electorate.
They'll have a redacted report intwo weeks while the IRS will take another 20 years...fucking scumbag Chicago pols....
Do you know where Jason Beeber is right now?
Which ones?
The ones in blue who clearly state their fascist communist aims?
Or the ones in Red who proclaim liberty while pursuing their fascist communist aims?
A distraction a day keeps sheep at bay.
And the consequences will be none. Precedent / Policy has already been set that supports Criminal lying to the American People while arming, funding & training Al CIA duh terror organizations.
Criminals Bush, Cheaney, Rice lied the American into war & got away with it. Criminals, Obama, Hillaery & Rice are just continuing the exact Criminal "Policy" which "National Security" protects. A big LIE.
Criminals Bush, Cheaney, Rice lied the American into war & got away with it. Criminals, Obama, Hillaery & Rice are just continuing the exact Criminal "Policy" which "National Security" protects. A big LIE.
Lied into two wars ($6 trillion). Why'd America invade Afghanistan again? Oh yeah, to get one guy (who wasn't there). How many of the 19 hijackers were from Afghanistan?
If nothing else, least Obama didn't take the recent neo-con bait and go full on war with Russia.
What in the name of all the gods has gotten into the US? Where is the vaunted Liberty and Freedom for which the Founders risked their lives at the end of a rope to give you? Where is the Rule Of Law that the Constitution was crafted to bring? The results of the breakdown of the rule of law and the arbitrary imposition of state dictatorship are too awful to contemplate, and revolution is perhaps the most terrible possibility to countenance, but isn't this kind of tyranny the very reason the Declaration of Independence says:
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security"?
The American People should be Impeaching, Arrestimg, Triing, Convicting & Executing these Criminals en masse and in great numbers where by instituting new form of government at their first opportunity, before the burden of tyranny becomes so great that the mass of The People start to think that the unthinkable is the only way to regain their freedom and liberty.
It's not complicated, it's the money. Get a bunch of the money out of politics and things would drastically improve.
Yesterday sumpere court voted once again to make money = speech, gee wiz wonder who that benefits? A ruling that, unsurprisingly, was covered hardly at all in the us press.
It would help if we could get the politics out of politics...
Maybe getting religion & bankers out of politics would be a good start.
I see 'libertarians' downvoting simple facts above, as usual.
downvoting on zh, yes we can change objective reality!
If you want us to take you seriously...
take that sack off your head.
Exactly, has nothing to do with justice, all they want is to get the dogs to follow another scent.
Kickice, defnitely. It is funny, they fear November elections and I fear that no one will remember.
Just make sure Feinstein's votes, comments, briefings & other input/output related to NSA oversight (or lack thereof) on American Citizens is released in non-redacted form.
*Election year politics & the stench of a wildly unpopular lame duck president, yo.
Red Team, Blue Team, Right! Left! Right!
Red Pill! Blue Pill! Fight! Fight! Fight!
*With "leaders" such as Obama, Feinstein, McCain, Schumer, Nancy Boy Graham, Pelosi, Reid, et al. (i.e. A bought & paid for CONgress, as well as TOTUS & SC(R)OTUS) - SAVE OUR SOULS!
Don't worry, it won't.
If the Autocue spokesman doesn't flip over and change his mind about it being a good idea, most of it will be redacted anyway.
National security and all.
Ah...the ol "Let's try to make our current closet homosexual, undocumented, teleprompter reading, civilian murdering , wannabe dictator, banker puppet president look better than the last borderline retard, fake Texan, civilian murdering, wannabe dictator, banker puppet president" tactic.
Well played
You need to go to the Lager for retraining in PC.
The proper terms are:
LBGT, virtual citizen, literate, tough-on-crime, unitary executive, economically responsive President
and
populist, trans-regional, tough-on-crime, unitary executive, and economically responsive President
That's classic..., MrPink!
So you're sayin' that Bush was not a closet homosexual?
Lest we forget the Jeff Gannon affair.
Don't mention "He-who-must-not-be-named". There's a jinx on it that will bring the snatchers!
There must be some really bad Obama news about to hit if they're in a rush to get Bush-era stuff back on the table again.
I see dead people and they do not even know they are named Diane.
we can now add Pathetic Weasel to her job description.....or is that already in there?
I checked...pathetic weasel was listed before octogenarian who gives gummers and after bought off pompous windbag.
Oh, I see it now, just after "Postal Real Estate thieving bitch," right?
Congress and the entire US Govt including the fake "judiciary" and Pentagon "haunt" Americans on a daily basis with the banksters and billionaire oligarchs.
Feinstein is a big skidmark stain on America..
She's a hypocritical cunt, but if she causes problems within the system, I'm all for it. With any luck, internecine fighting amongst the various factions of our government will help bring down the national security state. Let the snakes eat each other.
If she's causing problems, you HAVE TO suspect ulterior motives. Maybe there's something in it for Israel.
I was going to type she was herself a stain on this countrys history, but skidmark fits just as good..
As much as Bush deserves his share of perpetuating this shit-show, the current admin after almost 6 fucking yrs has nothing else to focus on?
*edit* seen what you did there.. "Bush-shit" theory
On second thought, at least nothing more of America can be completely ruined with this inquiry...
Bush captured the terrorists and threw them in Gitmo and tortured them for info. Obama just drones the terrorists and their fellow villagers to death on their own soil which would seem to take the fun out of harming terrorists unless of course you get a live feed of the kill, see raid on bin laden.
It's the War Crime "Policy" which has transcended Criminal Administrations going back since its early reports back in 2002. A policy of Torture which many House / Senate Intelligence Comm. members where briefed on.
A Policy which is "Globally" Black Site accepted.
A report from the Open Society Foundations has released a report that more than 50 nations, including the US, extra-judicially transferred suspected terrorists overseas for secret integration and torture. “Composed of information provided by various human rights organizations, the 214-page OSF report currently stands as the most comprehensive record of 136 individuals exposed to various methods of torture, including water-boarding, prolonged sleep deprivation, cramped confinement and more, in countries like Syria, Egypt, Libya, Canada and the United Kingdom,” reports Nicolas Rochon for the International. The report accuses the countries of human-rights violations, sending prisoners to known for their inhuman treatment, and another investigation described the United States as “the chief architect” of the web. The report insists that techniques of torture are ineffective and even dangerous. – YaleGlobal
More Than 50 Countries Allegedly Involved in CIA Rendition and Torture
http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/content/more-50-countries-allegedly-involved-...
War profiteering Criminals supporting a fraudulent Criminal UNITED STATES CORP. INC. "posing" as a functional Gov.
When you got nothing else-
Hey, while we're at it, why don't we release the 28 redacted pages from the 911 report that in all likelyhood showed Saudi Arabia bankrolled the terrorists.
Oh, now I've done it. Putting on my flame-retardant underwear...
Beware of nail guns too...
Front running Putin (Snowden)...........................
Can they ask him to stop spying on us while they're at it? Thanks.
OH hey Feinstein....can we have the reports that showed it was the CIA and Saudis who used the chemical weapons in Syria? Oh...no that stuff is off limits/doesn't matter?
No.
I think we need a government Fact-finding mission.
We need to send Feinstein, Pelosi, Bohner, McCain, etc each to a separate scandal-area (Ukraine, Syria, Libya, to the Drug Cartels, etc) on fact-finding missions.
Make sure and send them with a healthy entourage of the usual K-street lobbyists, to provide their respective lobby's points of view (union, corporate, regional, racial, etc).
Announce the commitment of the US Government to facts and truth is such that they will be en locale until the truth is found.
Make sure to announce their precise arrival time and place to those they should question, like Al Qaeda, Al Assad, The Muslim Brotherhood, Putin.
Then barrage jam gps and aviation navigation nodes so they can't leave, and enjoy the show.
No.
I think we need a government Fact-finding mission.
We need to send Feinstein, Pelosi, Bohner, McCain, etc each to a separate scandal-area (Ukraine, Syria, Libya, to the Drug Cartels, etc) on fact-finding missions.
Make sure and send them with a healthy entourage of the usual K-street lobbyists, to provide their respective lobby's points of view (union, corporate, regional, racial, etc).
Announce the commitment of the US Government to facts and truth is such that they will be en locale until the truth is found.
Make sure to announce their precise arrival time and place to those they should question, like Al Qaeda, Al Assad, The Muslim Brotherhood, Putin.
Then barrage-jam gps and aviation navigation nodes so they can't leave.
Finally, enjoy the show.
P.S. Popcorn! I forgot to add, BUY POPCORN!
Are we still talking about Bush? I thought we flushed that turd already.
The turd was flushed.
The stench and the stain on the toilet that is the government remain.
Some shit won't go down no matter how many times you flush.
(I haven't had occasion to use that phrase in a long time- thanks for leaving the door open for me.)
Anytime. Just make sure you light a match.
I thought so too, but apparently Mr. Chimp is going to be showing off his "art work" in Dallas this month. I know he dodges shoes pretty well, I wonder if he can dodge handfulls of shit...tempting to find out!
I think anyone that goes by the moniker mr chimp would be quite adept at both throwing and dodging fecal matter.
Clinton-era The Onion headline: Clinton flings feces at detractors
So when are the Benghazi and Fast and Furious reports coming out?
October or December..........depending on the runup and outcome
This old hag is trying to distract from the current hearings on Benghazi.
"Former CIA deputy director Mike Morell testified Wednesday that the spy agency knew almost immediately that al-Qaeda-linked terrorists had been involved in the 2012 Benghazi attacks that killed four Americans, seemingly contradicting a widely-cited New York Times report published last year."
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/02/top-cia-officer-contradicts-new-york-times-report-on-benghazi/#ixzz2xrPH30lf
Feinstein is an assault on the constitution, not a stain.
She has grifted her $100 million--isn't that enough?
Feinstein is an assault on the Constitution, alright.
But she is definitely a stain.
Ah! Come on! What's a few hundred million between friends?
Feinstein is an assault on the Constitution, alright.
But she is definitely a stain.
Ah! Come on! What's a few hundred million between friends?
Tear down the NSA and the CIA for all I care, I'm still never going to vote for these statist assholes.
They hate any sort of military, law enforcement, etc. that isn't under their direct control. Why do you think they are attacking these agencies and pulling the underpinnings out of our military (generals replaced, shootings at installations). They are attempting to make the military mistrust their leadership and themselves. It's all part of the plan - generate mistrust for everything and everyone, strike up a huge crisis and come sailing in with a big centrally controlled solution. It's all in the works right now. You sure don't see them trying to tear down the TSA or the DHS do you? Brown shirts, folks.
Re: You sure don't see them trying to tear down the TSA or the DHS do you?
HA!!! It's hard to tell on this one, good job.
Why not just ask the NSA...they know where all the skeletons are buried.
Where's an Executive Order when you need one?
Right, just next to the bullseye & a picture of JFK.
Who cares about such little things when what really matters is getting stocks green! Your tax dollars at work! POMO or die!
Here we go. It's Bush's fault. How stupid do they think people are? How long ago do you suppose the CIA began torturing and murdering people?
apparently they are right - look at half of the comments here on ZH; people lining up for distractions
I'd ask some Iranians but it seems all the ones with knowledge of it are dead.
Or the South Americans, but it seems they all seem to have passed too.
pods
It is because they don't have modern Western Single-Payer health care.
HEY! LOOK OVER THERE!
S & P is up 18% for the year already!
Never!
I am shocked!
The CIA doesn't torture!
It... let's see.
It uses 'enhanced interrogation' and 'environmentally responsible carbon-recycling'
Yeah! That's it!
ha ha ha. Feinstein and the other egomaniac sociopaths on that committee think they have the power to push back. That is rich.
Reminds me of a saying that has to do with a glass house and being careful about throwing stones.
I think the fix is in and she knows it. Nothing important will be released, but she can still make a big announcement about what a great job her committee is doing.
Is it not striking that this is the same woman openly calling for forced firearms confiscation from law-abiding citizens?
Isn't it also the same woman that wanted Snowden and Greenwald executed as a traitors for revealing the same kind of stuff she claims to want released?
Torture? When has the righteous United States of Merica ever tortured anybody that didn't deserve it?
Define "torture."
Define "deserved."
It all depends on what your definition of "is" is.
When the President of the United States of America does it, it's not torture.....or something like that.....
Fast and Furious documents still sealed??? Thought so.
And....all this torture stiuff has all stopped, right? You betcha........
Of course!
But to be perfectly frank, you might not want to believe what someone says while electrodes are connected to their privates.
Does moving it further underground and to more remote locations count as "stopped"?
Bullish on black printer "Redaction" ink.......
There's only one thing I can guarantee: we will never get the truth.
Boy,
Ain't that the Truth!
Oh! Wait...
Congressional testimony with a polygraph in real time.
Maybe to whatever you ask from Obama or the CIA, if you add the term "pretty pretty please", you'll get what you ask for. All sarcasm aside, if Congress expects cooperation, they are more stupid than I thought.
Feinstein votes to incriminate herself. It was her GD job to stop this crap. Now she thinks she is going to be a telltale and score points against CIA, and it will stop there? Feinstein has to be the absolute stupidest person in DC.
The Senate is shooting with blanks, I'm afraid. People only care about what happens to people like themselves.
Democrats would be outraged if the CIA were torturing Democrats, but would be happy if the CIA were torturing Republicans. And visa versa...
No one in the US will give a flying-f--- about the CIA torturing a few crazy religious fanatics (except for the crazy fanatics of the same religion in the US). What releasing the report will do is give lots of people outside the country another reason to hate the US. (As if they needed one.)
Wake up Diane -- it's NOT a pretty world out there, and people that do not like the United States are trying to kill Americans. I bet you would not approve of their interogation techniques either - especially if you were the one that they captured... Let's hope Obama leaves enough of the military in place that we have a chance of defending the country.
If Obama wants it released and the Senate wants it released WHO IN THE HELL is preventing it? Putin?
BWaaaaaaaa, Feinstein is pointing to someone else and talking about a "stain on history" It doesn't get any worse than that. DAMN, thats funny!
Isn't this a little fucking late? Shouldn't this been done when dubya was in power? Isn't this just political theater? wasn't this bitch the one that wanted war in iraq, surveillance state, war in Yugoslavia, etc? Fuck this bitch and the way she has torn up the consitution.
When will we declassify Obie's college transcripts?