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Why did the driver cross the road?
The driver couldn't recall, but GM <or insert favorite auto mfg> sure did.
...Buy a GM made Car and get a Detroit home thrown in for just a penny more...
Who was that chick getting her ass kicked up on Capitol Hill this week?
I thought O'Barry was the CEO ;-)
O'Barry is the owner, he hires and fires CEO's...
Fascism at its finest.
Got it now, its the continuation of the War on Women.
(Its all so confusing sometimes...lol)
I find it hard to have sympathy for those who were injured or died in a GM vehicle, because they should have known it is a POS product by now. Perhaps this is a form of Darwinism where the mentally strong survive by knowing instinctively to avoid GM vehicles.
We've all done stupid shit at one time or another. We shouldn't have to die for it.
Sorry, but that's EXACTLY the essence of the natural selection law.
If you're too stupid to stay alive, well then...
Haah...apropos, what do you think of this?
At 40 MPH on a highway...
A most excellent recumbency, but imo I would trust him over the Oriental drivers of the SF Bay. ;-)
I know of what you speak Skateboarder. Between my time in the South Bay, SF and Marin, every time my eyes espied a lady oriental driver within striking range, I did my famous evasive manoeuvre to "git outta her right, left and zigzagging way!!!"...
Maybe just a simple operator problem as he thought that the headlamp switch was cruise control/auto-pilot...
or he was a circus performer out practicing…
Regardless, he is obviously a liberal and supports Obama.
I damn near got sideswiped by one driving a Mercedes the other day as she couldn't figure out which building to turn into and occupied the bike lane parallel to me. Regardless of whose fault it is, I know who ends up paying the bills in a Mercedes vs. Toyota case. "Get the hell away from me lady!", I said out loud as I sped ahead to safety.
Supposed true story.
Insurance claim adjuster questioning accident victim stated that "He needed to to use the bathroom, so client set the cruise control on the RV and left the drivers seat."
Well, at least he has a helmet strapped on the back of the seat. Just in case....
Just in case.....the irony of it is staggering :-)
666, like those douche bags who SOS for help in middle of Pacific. But noooooooooooo, a fortune will be spent to save so can add to douche bag gene pool.
War on Gender Equalization.
Women who don't know how to cook and men who don't know how to use a screwdriver. Huzzah!
No worries, if this GM 'thingy' doesn't work out, we can always transfer those union workers and hook them up as Obamacare workers.
UAW is also the owner.
I think her name was ' Patsy '
lol...good one...if I understand the issue with the ignition switches right, people were hanging cinder blocks on the key chains and expecting the switches to not malfunction.
Not a defense of GM by any means (I went over to Ford after government "protected" them) but thats what understand about the safety issue. People had all kinds of crap on their key chains and the weight is what caused them to malfunction.
Could be wrong...but thats what I understand about it.
GM has had bad switches since at least 1979. I have a 79 Pontiac that I had to replace the switch. After the first replacement, took all the extra keys off. Didn't help. It went bad in a few years. Bought a used '90 Buick, switch went out within a year. Replaced it. The replacement only lasted about 3 years. No extra keys on it, either. On these two cars, you have to pull the steering wheel to replace switch. So, now(still have both cars) they start key free! On Fords, just push a small button and the switch comes out.GM has all kinds of bad designs. The Buick motors make up for a lot of them.
GM is definite pain to tear down in order to get it out.
Done it many times and you could "impression" the Fords (if you lost your key) by looking for the nicks and filing them down, used to be a locksmith back in the day...among other things ;-)
Psssst: Ford got $15.9 BILLION
Man, don't bum me out...lol...yeah I heard about that but I don't think .gov was ever issued stock in Ford.
Ford Credit, which is a bank. Not the same thing as the bailout of the car company itself, which is what happened with GM.
So only GM owners are stupid enough to overload their keychains?
Don't feel too sorry for her, as she came up through the departments involved with engineering the parts that are at fault for the failures.
See this comment by ZH commenter, Dewey Cheatum Howe:
Is she a mechanical engineer or an MBA?
Both an Engineer and MBA.
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Add a free team of Navy SEALS and you gots a deal.
Anyone who drives a Volt just screams:
"I'm easy influenced..."
Three words GM can't say: "we have ignition."
three words GM can say : we have dysentery.
Lets hope its not Ebola virus.
But the government made money, tiny tim giethner said so.
"government made money"
Sweet -- then da gubermint will have lots of $$$,$$$,$$$,$$$.$$ to compensate those they've killed...
Buy high sell low. Crooked morons.
We have specific specs, but inferior parts are inadvertantley shipped, we just lower our specs threashold and use those parts anyhow to save money. Enuff said. Their 2nd bankruptcy should be glorious.
I have to say my 88 Olds Cutlass Sierra was Rock solid and a blast to own and drive. Bullet proof.
That said, they will not go bankrupt, simply morph (transformers FTW!!!) into the military manufacturing behemoth that they really always were and grew up being.
Will fit nicely into the "no more stockings for patriotic wimmin" 2016 timeline.
I can vouch for your statement about simply lowerlng the test requirement- The thing is, every component is sourced from the lowest bidder who has cut their own margins razor-thin (or simply allowed GM to dictate what the price is), so the incentive to cut corners is exceedingly high.
Add to that a just-in-time supply chain so that when fuck-ups happen (all the time) you can't just reject the bad parts without shutting the whole assembly line down, and that would be bad for the shareholders don'tcha know?
To be honest, it's truly amazing that more things like this don't happen.
Oh yes, but to lay the thing at the feet of the brand new CEO is totally, utterly insane. She may have risen to her level of incompetence via the 'Peter Principle', but she is the fall guy/gal, in this instance.
Years ago, when shopping for a new car, I was looking at a Dodge and opened the hood - the engine looked like it was made out of tin that was spot-welded together. I then looked at a Toyota's engine and it looked like a substantial piece of engineering art. Have not owned an American car since....
Seeing the engine on my Corolla (!) sealed the deal for me, as well.
Funny you said that.
I have been using used Chrysler vans in my business for over a decade because I can by them cheap, much cheaper than a used Honda or Toyota, and can plan for their typical issues (For over a decade they have know that the S-belt comes off if water get into the engine compartment during a downpour or if a puddle is hit just right. One has to retro-fit the tensioner with a special third-party kit. Over a DECADE!!!). I use them up and then resale them cheap.
Anyways, I almost always nearly shed a tear when I am on the lot and comparing the engines of the Toyotas and Honda with the "lump" in the Chrysler. The Toyota and Honda motors are a marvel of engineering, while Chrysler has been using the same ol' same ol' for over a decade.
My family cars are NOT DC US brands.
Sidenote: My dad was one of those that stayed with DC US made until he got a too good to turn down deal on a used Toyota sedan in the mid 2000's. Loves it and still drives the hell out of it.
I've owned two GM pieces-o-s*** when younger, and vowed "never again" over two decades ago. GM continues to lose-customers-for-life, and have been hemorraging them nearly continuously since the 1970's. Can't see them as a going concern outside of "government motors" in a few more years, with many GM vehicles now "hecho en Mexico".
What did the NHTSA know and when did they know it? I find it VERY hard to believe that they knew nothing about this for 10 + years. Should let this POS company go bankrupt when we had the chance.
"What did the NHTSA know and when did they know it"
BB "Before Bribe": They knew all.
AB, "After Bribe": "I see nothing–NOTHING!"
I think that the apropos questions is: "How much and to who?"
Isn't that the U.S. Kleptoligarchy in a nutshell?
Sacrificing the lives of the innocent for the sake of the corporate/government and military industrial complex cabal.
Not to mention sacrificing the savings and assets of generations for the sake of Wall Street and bankster profits.
A society willing to sacrifice it's young and the conceived yet unborn for money and expediency is broken.
I still like this line, was it in 2010? I think it was here on ZH:
"You wouldn't buy our shitty cars, so we'll be taking your money anyway."
That second cartoon should have in small print at the end:
"...unless you are Max Hastings in which case the CIA/NSA are responsible for deploying a different kind of airbag - one that goes pop"
If you like your GM car, you can keep your GM car.
For those who as yet do not have a GM car in their immediate household, a new executive order will be issued to mandate that you are required to acquire a GM vehicle, preferably the Chevy Volt, and if you fail to comply, a penalty will be exacted and withdrawn from your tax return.
This mandate will be non negotiable as it is in the best interests of all and our national security. No exceptions.
Every time I stop next to a Chevy Volt, I pray it doesn't explode in my face.
Funny Skateboarder. For some reason, it's the other way around if I'm in my Volt. Since all of one total-lossed Volt went up in flames in a storage shed at NHSTA 3 frigging weeks after the crash, and a gasoline car fire happens every half an hour - with fatalities more often than not, I'm more worried if you pull up alongside me, which is why I rocket away, in silence, running on solar power.
In other words...it's become more than obvious that ZH's new owners have "illiquid" investments in big oil. And there are a hell of a lot of "useful idiots" here. Which is why I don't comment here often anymore.
Never argue with an idiot - they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
It's obvious that facts have no currency here.
I'm a fan of skateboards for a reason. Buses and skateboards. I use the car when I need to.
No comment on TED from me, but here's a little story by John Francis that aint too bad. About oil spills.
You have no idea how scared I am that my own engine is going to explode in my face. One must always accept the inevitable. ;-)
This is all sound and fury signifying nothing. Never ever once did you hear the CEO utter anything about responsibility. Courts will decide it's the old GM responsible, good luck there. The rest is just . . . circus.
Responsibility is not in their job description. Their job is to sell. Sell us shit that we don't need, sell us shit that don't work. Sell us promises of what will never come, or at best come from someone else's pocket.
The VOLT gets good reviews. Try one out.
I'm at this estate sale today, low & behold. I find an original dealer booklet/brochure for the 1966 Chevy Chevelle.
I wonder what that's worth in Al Gore's "reverse hockey stick" world?
YC, try this search...
Not much out there, I thought it would have a little higher value
Yen: It's the same going rate as buying an inverse hockey stick coupled with a Rodney Dangerfield triple Lindy dive shoved up Al Gore's huge, overfed ass.
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Used to own American, still do for a few pre 1970 classics.
But experience taught me. Had one GM where the distributor would randomly cut out and leave you stranded. On another the whole engine actually fell out - the cradle holdoing the engine cracjked and dropped it in the road. Had a brand new S-10 (because i could fir 4x8 sheets in it and it had 4 doors - no other mid size SUV's did then). Thing rusted horribly and had more issues than I can count. Replaced with a Chrysler that had the computer randomly die - great when you've pulled onto an Interstate in front of a Semi. The brake lines on that rusted out in 5 years - pretty common according to my mechanic. The Chrysler convertible my wife had leaked so bad that it had puddles in the back. Thing smelled horrible from the mold and mildew. The Ford convertible she had before that was mediocre at best - though she survived getting T-boned by a garbage truck. Our Ford minivan has a horrible front suspension and got recalled for rear wheel bearing mount failures. Intake manifold had vacuum leaks from warping and a bunch of other issues.
I now have Japanese and German cars. My Japanese SUV is well designed and has had NO issues - rear window goes down so I can load long lumber and a 4x8 sheet fits in the back. My wife loves her German convertible - only 'issue' is low profile tires on big rims (horrible for potholed roads - kill one a year minimum so you'd better have tire/rim insurance).
I really really wanted to buy 'American' but.....I finally gave up.
i don't think you have been able to buy a wholly desined, engineered and assembled american car for fifty years. the unions and the management saw to that. the parts are made elsewhere, with "emerging market" labor that is not subject to the union rules that put the american, the british, the french and the italian mass produced cars out of business.
manufacture is assembly of kits imported in parts from other countries. this is globalization. export jobs to places without unions that prevent quality and pride. check out what barriers teslar faces. management and unions conspire to delvier crap.
what is surprising is that german cars have such a much higher track record for design and reliability. i personally find french, italian and japanese cars to be complete crap, tinny, whiney, bits drop off (inside and outside) and are just as unreliable as "american" cars. so how do the germans do it? they have unions, they globalize, yet there end product is significantly better.
Ross Perot is a prophet.
If GS had known about this faulty car then they would have taken positions against the life span of the owners.
446,000 miles on my 2001 Subaru Forester with original engine, transmission, & struts. And yes, I drive a lot.
Is government motors going to be fined $1 billion like toyota was?
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