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How Much Bad Debt Can China Absorb?
Submitted by Sara Hsu via The Diplomat,
China is coming under close scrutiny these days, as the leadership scurries to find new sources of economic growth and control its debt. Some analysts have reassured China watchers that the Chinese government can simply write off its bad debt, at least within the major banks, and pass it on to the asset management companies that handle that resale of distressed debt (or have it later purchased by the Ministry of Finance). Others have warned that some of the debt is serious, such as that incurred by local government financing vehicles, and are dubious about the sustainability of these entities.
[ZH: As we have noted before, the dats is ugly...
From November 2012, The Chinese Credit Bubble - Full Frontal:
And from November 2013, "How China's Stunning $15 Trillion In New Liquidity Blew Bernanke's QE Out Of The Water"
It seems people are starting to listen, and not a moment too soon: as of December 31, China's corporate debt just hit a record $12 trillion. From Reuters:
China's corporate debt has hit record levels and is likely to accelerate a wave of domestic restructuring and trigger more defaults, as credit repayment problems rise.
Chinese non-financial companies held total outstanding bank borrowing and bond debt of about $12 trillion at the end of last year - equal to over 120 percent of GDP - according to Standard & Poor's estimates.
Growth in Chinese company debt has been unprecedented. A Thomson Reuters analysis of 945 listed medium and large non-financial firms showed total debt soared by more than 260 percent, from 1.82 trillion yuan ($298.4 billion) to 4.74 trillion yuan ($777.3 billion), between December 2008 and September 2013.
While a credit crisis isn't expected anytime soon, analysts say companies in China's most leveraged sectors, such as machinery, shipping, construction and steel, are selling assets and undertaking mergers to avoid defaulting on their borrowings.
More defaults are expected, said Christopher Lee, managing director for Greater China corporates at Standard and Poor's Rating Services in Hong Kong. "Borrowing costs already are going up due to tightened liquidity," he said. "There will be a greater differentiation and discrimination of risk and lending going forward."
And then there was the worst capital misallocation in history:
Exacerbating China's corporate troubles has been the questionable use of 4 trillion yuan in stimulus that Beijing pumped into the economy following the onset of the global financial crisis in 2008, explained Lee of Standard & Poor's.
"Many companies invested heavily into competitive and low-return projects because funding was readily available," he said. "These investments aren't doing well and are making little contribution to profitability."
Of course, there is also this:
To worry or unwind? How much debt can China really absorb?
The first step in answering this would be to examine what types of debt has gone bad in China and what is likely to continue to sour, as well as how these products have been dealt with. There are three general categories of bad debt that have been bailed out in recent years (there is other bad debt that has not been bailed out): bank loans, trust loans, and loans from smaller sectors such as informal finance and credit guarantee companies. Problems with trust loans and loans from smaller sectors have generally been handled by local governments, while bank loans have been bailed out via asset management companies funded through the Ministry of Finance. Trust loans bailed out by local governments have involved sums in the low billions of RMB, while non-performing bank loans amounted to about 1.5 trillion RMB between 2011 and 2013.
The second step is to consider how well the central and local governments can cope with a potential increase in bad debt. While local governments are overly indebted, as revealed by a recent report by the National Audit Office, and have experienced fiscal shortfalls for some time, the central government has maintained relatively low deficits, even coming in under the projected deficit in 2013. The way in which the central government deals with non-performing loans is easy on the fiscal budget as long as the debt can be recovered; the worst impact of this process is that it may very lightly constrain lending, as non-performing loans are taken off books and bonds are issued and purchased by banks, changing the nature of capital held on the books. In reality, however, much of the distressed debt is not recovered, and in the past has been purchased by the Ministry of Finance. Both central and local governments, then, face issues with bailing out bad loans either directly or indirectly.
The third question we ask is whether the scale of bad debt will grow sufficiently to threaten the financial health of the central and local governments. For local governments, the question is moot. Their health is already threatened by a serious lack of revenue. This can only be addressed by increasing revenue, perhaps land revenue or an increase in revenue redistribution from the central government. As it stands, it seems that the fallout from trust bailouts has been relatively low and may turn out to be less onerous on local governments than it has been on the psyche of financial analysts, but if the trust debt increases and bailouts do rise, local governments will suffer, as they have little capacity to withstand a further accumulation of debt.
The central government can bear a small increase in bad debt, but as long as the deficit is kept in check, bailouts will replace policies that spur much-needed growth, trading future prosperity for past profligacy. The recent 3-year non-performing loan amount of just less than 1.5 trillion RMB (about 500 billion per year and growing) seems like a tidy sum compared to fiscal expenditures of 7 trillion RMB (in 2013). With mounting non-performing loans and declining revenue in the short run, the gap between these numbers will only narrow. Although the government can pay down the debt later, postponing the bailout, many new nonperforming loans would present a challenge to officials as to how to classify, recover, and ultimately relieve the financial system of this burden.
These numbers tell us that it does not appear that China can bear a very large increase in debt, and that the idea that the government can simply “bail out the financial sector” is erroneous, or at least, a stretch. China does not have the luxury of the United States, which can spend excessively because foreign countries continue to buy U.S. government debt (as the dollar is the world reserve currency). If the leadership attempts to spend down its large cache of dollar reserves, it will lose control of its currency, as a larger supply of U.S. dollars relative to the Chinese RMB would depreciate the currency unless sterilized. The only remaining option is the least savory: the Chinese government must control its debt, and this includes reducing overindulgence within the real economy. It seems that the punch bowl is empty already and the party is winding down. Now the question is, who will clean up the mess?
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The same folks that cleaned all the dead pigs from the rivers can clean up this mess, no problem!
I think the question is phrased wrong.
The only thing that is important is...
The ChiComs can absorb much more bad debt than the US can.
o.t, but this is just to much....
http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/04/05/how-water-will-be-used-to-subju...
"More defaults are expected, said Christopher Lee, managing director for Greater China corporates at Standard and Poor's Rating Services in Hong Kong. ?
I thought Sir Christopher Lee only told horror stories in movies, no?
Of course defaults will continue. The central gubimint will cover it up as much as they can while providing boat loads of cash to their connected cronies.
How this will affect the US will be as USD deflation. As long as the Yuan is pegged to the USD, it is a de facto fiat dollar. Chinese investors will go scambling for Bennibux to cover their debts driving the UDS' value up. How long will the commies deal with that before breaking the peg and going Ctrl-P is unknown.
Sir Christopher Lee.
Didn't he have a brother called Bruce?
they can absorb a lot, but in an hour they'll be hungry for more again
Are you including Fannie and Freddie in "Corporate Debt" for the US number?
Somehow the Fed's balance sheet chart tells a different story.
That a lot of General Tso's chicken
They have a printing press don't they? I'm sure they can print up enough to buy Pittsburgh, Detroit, the rest of Manhattan and most of Africa before it stops working.
Man if they would let me print I could show them a thing or two about taking over the world.
I'm sure Belgium will step into the breach and start buying Chinese debt if things get too bad.
...with Fed's paper.
Chi-mera.
People complain about the differential between ecb and fed balance sheets. In reality, they make perfect sense/sence.
The Fed holds roughly 1/3 more debt on it's balance sheets than the ECB. Hence 1.3750 ish eur/usd.
Questions welcome?
The ECB is going to QE as I said last week. That's their only alternative to lower the exchange rate. German numbers are (bull shit)
Only if the Krauts allow it.
Communists have something called debt? Has Engals called Marx about his arrears to him?
I mean, he was such a giving kinda guy ;-)
Fuck China!
Q: How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
A: I bought a wooden whistle that wouldn't whistle...so I bought a steel whistle that still wouldn't whistle.
six chic sheikhs siezed sick slick sheep.
(what do woodchucks and whistles have to do with China?)
Love tongue twisters anyhow :)
well..to what extent can China keep mopping up OUR bad debt would be my question.
This crazy search for high yield has "yielded" a return to the CDO's and all the other "financial weapons of mass destruction" we had back in 2008. How anyone can think this doesn't end just as bad as the last time is beyond me..."but there's always war with Russia" I guess.
War with Russia ends bad for you.
Arrest ALL government employees and confisticate their ill-gotten fortune and you will have a surplus after paying off the trillions of debt.
Awesome idea, but it might need a little tweaking. Who would arrest them, guard and feed them if not all government employees? Can anyone here help us figure this out? Joe is on to something.
He said arrest and confiscate. We can do that. There is no reason to hold them or feed them.
You already hold them and feed them.
Bullets are cheaper
"There is no reason to hold them or feed them."
Correct.
They are resplendent in their own awesomeness -a legend in their own lunchtimes.
They are able to achieve results unachievable by boring old "laisse faire".
So why should we be concerned for them?
They are "la creme de la creme" so will make their own way in the world.
"If you love them, set them free..."
China holds just under 1.267 Trillion of "term" UST. That means "spectrum".
Junk away communist ass clowns. If China ofloaded 100 billion a month it still would't affect the treasury market.
China wants to upset the bond market! PBoC wants an alternative.
the chinese financial system is the exact monetary system a country should have in a fiat world world of money as an algorithm. it is the true qeternity. it is the black hole of credit, a gaping maw.
China's Own Special Version of the Night of the Long Knives:
http://winteractionables.com/?p=10587
hmmmm, I could sure go for some Chinese food right now
hot and sour soup....mmmmmmm!!!!
Every country has unofficial lenders, but in China individuals, companies and even local governments who can not get loans from state-controlled banks have been on a borrowing binge from these unofficial sources. China is awash in overcapacity and debt.
After several years of growing debt loads concern is rising the whole unstable pyramid is about to come crashing down. This could bring China and possibly the global economy with it. The economic efficiency of credit has begun to collapse in China and the unwinding of China’s giant credit spree could be vary painful. More on China's credit trap below.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/03/china-and-great-credit-trap.html
Rothschild - Global Currency
well, of course we should! the euro worked out just swell...
peak debt? seems like the rest of the world needs to get printing so they can buy moar shit to service this debt and keep er going for another day...mathematics? hit the infinity button, and all is good.
Dont think the government is going to leave you owning a house before it goes bust do ya.