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And Another Region Seeks To Join Russia

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In the days after the Crimean referendum, we presented our take on "who is next" in the great annexation scramble and said that the most likely region to enter the USSR 2.0 next is Moldova's Transnistira region, where in a 2006 referendum some 97% of the population had voted to become part of Russia.

Moments ago this appears to have been confirmed after the president of the territory said the following, via Bloomberg:

  • TRANSNISTRIA SEEKING TO JOIN RUSSIA AFTER WINNING INDEPENDENCE
  • MOLDOVA'S TRANSNISTRIA REGION SEEKS TO JOIN RUSSIA: PRESIDENT
  • TRANSNISTRIA PRESIDENT SHEVCHUK SPEAKING TO REPORTERS ON RUSSIA

One thing is certain: the "west" will not be happy as the Russian territorial expansion continues.

 

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Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:15 | 4632307 NotApplicable
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Sock-puppet alert!

I see you're busy today.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:17 | 4632316 max2205
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Next up...Texas

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:26 | 4632379 rocker
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Since we grabbed Alaska on the cheap can you blame them. Don't think Texas will leave for them. Texas seems more tilted to Mexico.

Then the corruption in Texas vs Mexico will have compition from the owners of things. 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:48 | 4632464 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Rocker, as a person living in Texas I have a few words for that place south of the border. F*ck you Mexico. Take your citizens back while you are at it.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:57 | 4632493 Yes We Can. But...
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So citizens of some regions actively and eagerly seek to become part of Russia while citizens of some regions actively and eagerly seek to no longer be a part of the USA.

Hmmmm.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 12:09 | 4632552 Snidley Whipsnae
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"So citizens of some regions seek to become part of Russia while citizens of some regions seek to no longer be a part of the USA."

East Ukranians opened their gas bill the first of the month... and said "What the F*** !?!?"... 

...and the USA banksters havent begun the hair cuts... yet.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:25 | 4634184 balolalo
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Ok.   Now let's connect this with Crimea and voila!

Russia owns the black sea and Ukraine is then basically landlocked, and with Putin as the door man.    

Follow the pipelines.    

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 14:11 | 4632893 Bunders
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Mexico isn't just Mexicans responsibility. Where do the Mexican cartels get all their money from? If you said US (Western) Banks, which is to say Americans, you'd be correct. Keep those kids safe and off the streets! - (NOFX YouTube Music Link)

bestgore; Mexican Drug Wars - Warning! Extremely graphic!

TED - Rodrigo Canales: The deadly genius of drug cartels

Google Versus debate on prohibition; a pertinent momentthe whole debate.

Michael C. Ruppert on the Bush Cheney drug empire. Of course it's not just Bush and Cheney

So yeah, we can blame the Mexicans but do we even know what our representatives here in the west are doing about it? Smedley Butler "All war is a racket" and the "War on Drugs" has been going on since competition in commerce and the opium wars that founded HSBC. The question is, who profits from the current legal situation?

Remember this HSBC advert? Well you'll find no shortage of little girls at the end of that bestgore link who aren't getting bigger every day. How much did HSBC pay as a fine to the US Government for laundering cartel drug money in Mexico? How much did they pay to the Mexican government? It's a big club and Mexicans ain't in it.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 14:14 | 4632990 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Bunders, yes the US feeds the drug war south of the border. Who bailed their sorry asses out in 1995 when the gov't defaulted? Yes, US tax slaves. Until we change our policies with Mexico this will not change. That being said, they can shoot themselves up. NOT ON MY FRONT DOOR though.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 16:43 | 4633327 Radical Marijuana
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Good reply, Bunders!

You likely already know this:

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/world/us-pot-growers-pose-threat-to-mexican-cartels-20091011-gseo.html

"Marijuana created the drug trafficking organisations you see today. The founding families of the cartels got their start with pot."

-- Luis Astorga, a leading authority on the drug cartels at National Autonomous University of Mexico.

Maybe, a few Mexicans are marginally in "the club?" However, obviously the vast majority of Mexicans were not, just like the overwhelming vast majority of the world's human population, as well as other life forms, were apparently NOT in "the club."

"The club" that was criminalizing cannabis claimed "marijuana is almost as bad as murder," while, in fact, hemp was the single best plant we have for people. Consider how "marijuana" was a Mexican slang word. Consider how that word was promoted by propaganda. That insanity of enforcing that the best plant was the worst was the prohibition that drove social psychosis.

The organized crime gangs fighting the Mexican government were subsidized by pot prohibition to grow so much! The gangs competing with the Mexican government were massively subsidized at their start by marijuana. Marijuana law contradictions planted its seeds of lies backed by violence. Governments in Mexico became committed to drug wars. The USA forced Mexico to go along with drug war horror.  At the start, the flows of money & weapons via USA/Mexico were initially facilitated by the flows of marijuana more than anything else The back flows of money and weapons into Mexico has created the situation that exists there at the present time.

Obviously, "the club" was international, and is becoming more transnational. All over the world, the same basic principles apply: governments are the biggest form of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals. All of the significant political events, from the Ukraine, to Mexico, tend to be disputes between the different organized crime gangs, with the biggest gangsters of all being the banksters, who are primarily "the club."

HOWEVER, my constant criticism is that, ACTUALLY, everyone IS a member of "the club," BUT, more than 99% of them have become too brainwashed to understand that THEY ARE IN "the club," and conditioned to not want to understand THAT everyone has some power to rob, and to kill to back that up. The members of the currently dominant "club" were the best at doing THAT, which also meant that they were the best at lying about them doing THAT. Hence, they were able to promote their immaculate hypocrisy, in the form of co-opted religions, and controlled opposition ideologies.

In the relationships between the USA and Mexico, as well as between Russia and the Ukraine, there were prolonged episodes of the history of oscillating degrees, spinning in their dynamic equilibria between the different systems of organized lies, operating organized robberies, with the constant theme that the historical events were dominated by the people who were the best professional liars regarding those events. The common features all around the world are that political events are subject to a narration dominated by the best professional liars, and immaculate hypocrites, on all sides, including in the vast majority of the opposition groups.

In Mexico, as in the Ukraine, the main things happening are different groups of people attempting to operate through the various dominant organized crime gangs, by making whatever alliances with bigger gangs that may benefit them. During that process, all of the political discourse always presents a Bizarro Mirror World perspective, since there are always presented false fundamental dichotomies between those who are in, or out, of one gang, or "club," versus another. The paradoxical way that backing up lies with violence typically works is that what happens in the longer term tends to become the opposite of whatever was the stated goal in the short-term.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:03 | 4633522 Rafferty
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 F*ck you Mexico. Take your citizens back while you are at it.

 

Too late for that Vamp.  In another gerneration they'll be the makority there and your view won't count.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:15 | 4633764 StychoKiller
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After the Great Implosion™, there will STILL be an immigration problem, only in reverse!  ("D@mn gringoes, stealing all our jobs!" [said in perfect Spanish]).

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:30 | 4632354 Bunga Bunga
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Chinese don't care where they frack. If only they can frack.

And what's bad about Gazprom meaking deals abroad? XOM doing these all the time. Are you getting uneasy about competition? Don't like free trade?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:33 | 4632412 Snidley Whipsnae
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"When you're up to your ass in aligators it's hard to remember that you set out to drain the swamp"

... chicken hawks

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:06 | 4632269 Savvy
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IMF or Russia? NATO has soundly defeated itself.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:29 | 4632398 john39
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meanwhile, hitlary clinton poses with pussy riot:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/04/07/hillary-clinton-poses-with-pussy-riot-members/?hpt=hp_t2

this garbage is what passes for leadership in the west.  absolutely shameful. 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 12:02 | 4632522 Martin Silenus
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+1   I always upvote pussy.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:07 | 4632273 Sudden Debt
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NEXT UP: FRANCE!!! HALLO COMRATS!!!

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:13 | 4632303 sushi
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The White House has just released a statement regarding the drawing of a new red line just to the west of Ireland. Said the spokesperson: "Should Putin send troops across this new red line the immediate result will be the release of a strongly worded statement once TOTUS completes the back nine."

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:16 | 4632312 Sudden Debt
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Just saw it on TV also...

Obama said:

And now, WE'RE SO GOING TO SEND THEM A ANGRY EMAIL WRITTEN IN OBLIQUE CAPITALS!!!

Putin must be shitting his pants right now... as long as the mail doesn't go straight to junkemail that is...

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 12:22 | 4632593 sushi
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"All oblique capitals are belong to Russ!"

V. Putin

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 12:50 | 4632678 NoPantsSpongeBob
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Have you met any French? Their aloof personalities are the best repellant against any sort of invasion.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:40 | 4633636 TheReplacement
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There's that and their pugent body odor, not to mention the excessively hairy females.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:08 | 4632275 Grande Tetons
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Hey Putin, make a bid for Puerto Rico. At least you will get some latin hotties. 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:28 | 4632394 Headbanger
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You just hit on something there!

CUBA COULD BE NEXT!

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 12:16 | 4632575 Sudden Debt
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Oh please, Miami and the rest of that piece of land attached to it is already more communist than Cuba!

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 12:17 | 4632576 Sudden Debt
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Isn't castro Obama's uncle?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:10 | 4632278 ThisIsBob
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Well no more Big Macs for you.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:10 | 4632287 Carpenter1
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Amazing how far you can get with 10 cases of vodka, a few hot russian blondes, and some anti-NATO rhetoric

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:11 | 4632289 Stoploss
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Now you know why Putin moved the troops back.

They will be breaking and running back to Russia as fast as they can.

Move away from the door...

A real leader let's the people decide and simply holds the door open. Right or wrong decision is imaterial, the simple fact is the door is open, you come through, or you don't.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:11 | 4632292 Truther
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Putin on the Ritz

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:49 | 4632441 Volkodav
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"Putin on the Ritz" Sparrow Hill Mockba Rossia 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNXd3wX_USc

Notice the polite men in green...

 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 13:20 | 4632792 jaxville
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If I had to leave an area where there was a war between Russian and American forces occuring, I would take my family and head towards the Russian zone. There would be far better odds of not being robbed, raped or murdered with the Russians than with the Americans.

  During WW2 it was just the opposite. What has happened to Western decency and respect? The quality or integrity of people in any army is directly related to their political leadership. What dark cloud has passed over the West to result in our current situation? I listen to Western leaders repeat the same hate filled lies and wonder who owns these people?

 There is clearly an evil force behind the decline of the West. Self determination and democracy get lip service from our leaders but they wage war against it. Individual dignity and respect have been erased and replaced by political correctness. Privacy exists only with those who make a concerted effort to maintain such.

  Will those who own our governments not stop before vast areas are turned into radioactive wastelands inhabited by a hanful of mutants?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:32 | 4633600 Radical Marijuana
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jaxville, I subscribe to the theory that nothing else is required but the paradoxical result of too much success at backing up frauds with force to produce the result you suggested. I.e., "There is clearly an evil force behind the decline of the West."

Of course, from a metaphorical point of view, there are many people who perceive the result of natural selection pressures operating through organized lies, backed by violence, to produce subtle forms of consciousness which are variously labeled as "demonic." While that may well be a metaphorically interesting point of view, I find it more useful to consider the unitary mechanisms actually operating which drive the humans functioning as the top carnivores to degenerate to become parasites that are killing their host civilization.

I like the saying that "the fish rots from the head" to describe what has been happening to Western Civilization, as currently dominated by the Anglo-American (Zionist) empire. My view is that the international banksters have become too successful, for too long, in making and maintaining their established and entrenched systems of organized lies, operating organized robberies, while they have also necessarily too successfully been able to brainwash the majority of the population to believe in their bullshit. But nevertheless, I would promote the view that the best thing about "Western Civilization" was that it enabled the development of the scientific methods, and therefore, the best possible resolutions of the decline and fall of that civilization would be a real, radical intellectual, scientific revolution, which enabled understanding that civilization itself more scientifically. ... Of course, to do that would require profound paradigm shifts in the basic philosophy of science.

As you wrote, jaxville, the current paths we are on are due to the runaway triumph of the most criminally insane people being able to dominate our civilization, who are able and willing to risk World War with weapons of mass destruction, in order to advance their globalized systems of electronic fiat frauds, which raises the question: "Will those who own our governments not stop before vast areas are turned into radioactive wastelands inhabited by a handful of mutants?"

It would take a prodigious series of political miracles to prevent that from happening. Such an unlikely transformation would require a creative synthesis between postmodernizing science and ancient mysticism, which goes far beyond what anyone who pretends to promote that goal (that I am aware of being publicly significant) currently goes. Yet still, I suggest that there is no way to survive the progress in sciences like physics and biology which does not appreciate that energy is spirit, and that we have been understanding the concept of entropy backwards (due to an arbitrary minus sign inserted into the entropy equations.) Therefore, we tend to almost universally understand "evil" in backward ways, which are profoundly unscientific, since the biggest bullies' bullshit was able to dominate during the history of the scientific enterprise, just as much as it was able to dominate all other social institutions.

I REPEAT, the best thing about Western Civilization was the development of scientific methods, and the only way to save Western Civilization would be through profound paradigm shifts in the philosophy of science. There is nothing more important to a technological civilization than its philosophy of science. In that context, the most important MISTAKE that was made was to arbitrarily reverse the meaning of the concept of "entropy," which meant that we ended up understanding "evil" backwards. In turn, that meant that every time we attempted to resolve political problems, our efforts backfired, and actually made the opposite happen in the real world!

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:12 | 4632296 spastic_colon
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TRANSNISTRIA....?  c'mon is that made up?

 

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Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:13 | 4632302 Dr. Engali
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Can I buy a vowel Pat?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:17 | 4632320 Sudden Debt
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Where did you think Transvestites come from?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:21 | 4632340 Spastica Rex
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Transvestria?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:25 | 4632371 Bunga Bunga
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Transylvania?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:23 | 4632359 davinci7_gis
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I thought it said TRANSYLVANIA at first blush!

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:28 | 4632382 ebworthen
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I know, right?

The EU has had their bankers invade with the "European Union Border Assistance Mission to Moldova and Ukraine" to move them toward "European Standards" (bail-ins and austerity for regular folks/$$$ for the kleptoligarchy).

"Transnistria" references the Dniester River; not to be confused with the Scheister River, which runs through New York down to Washington D.C. and exits into the ChuckYou Bay.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 13:09 | 4632756 Kirk2NCC1701
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Is that near Pansylvania?  Are they next?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:20 | 4633785 StychoKiller
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Once Pottsylvania goes over to Putin, it's curtains for Mooselvania!

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:14 | 4632299 Dr. Engali
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President Zero soundly condemns these actions as he rounds the turn heading into hole number ten.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:16 | 4632310 ifishivote
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Obama needs to start using a pencil... much easier to erase.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:22 | 4632345 Hughing
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The only pencils zero has are the little golf ones with no eraser. It must be tough on him.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 12:12 | 4632562 Snidley Whipsnae
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I thought O had only a red ink pen ... with disappearing ink.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:17 | 4632314 ebworthen
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And this was in 2006 before the collapse of Greece, the bail-ins of Cyprus, the Austerity pain in Spain and Southern Europe, and the IMF banksters taxing the households of Western Europe and the U.S. to feed their insatiable coffers of greed.

I wonder how much the bail-ins in Cyprus and the legerdemain of the Brussels Bandits and Wall Street Warlocks led Russia to decide that diplomatic cooperation with the West was counterproductive to their future?

Kind of like my feeling that being a U.S. Citizen has an ever-decreasing "return on investment"?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 12:17 | 4632578 Snidley Whipsnae
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ebworthen... I don't know how much longer I can afford to be a US citizen. 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 12:56 | 4632702 swmnguy
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It's all the blobbing-upness.  Somebody has to pay for it.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:22 | 4633790 StychoKiller
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Guess AnAnonymous' hitch in the internet water army is up, haven't seen a post from it in a long time.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:17 | 4632315 Boomberg
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Mexico should hold a referendum on being annexed by the US. It would likely pass.  They are invading the US anyway and would save dollars on all that immigration and green card shit.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:19 | 4632325 ebworthen
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"Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?"

If they were officially annexed they'd fall under the I.R.S. and Obamacare "umbrella".

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:22 | 4632351 Spastica Rex
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Apartheid does have certain structural requirements.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:23 | 4632355 Boomberg
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Point taken, but perhaps there are additional labor and natural resources to be exploited to make up for the trouble. 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 13:52 | 4632896 gallistic
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"Mexico should hold a referendum on being annexed by the US."

I think you've got that bass-ackwards.

Demographics is a mo-fo.

In any referendum in a not so distant future, large chunks of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and the usual suspects might actually vote to be annexed by Mexico.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 15:38 | 4633237 Boomberg
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What goes around comes around. The US took most of that territory from Mexico by war, and California also.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:35 | 4633620 Radical Marijuana
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If current demographic tends continue, then Hispanics will effectively annex the USA.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:18 | 4632323 jal
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I don't give a shit.

It planting time

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:19 | 4632326 new game
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our state dept has put themselves in a corner. the square room is filling up with the fed in corner 1. the state deparment in corner 2. paint is not drying. paint is spreading as the corners tighten.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:21 | 4632328 MeBizarro
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Chunks of Eastern Ukraine will end up being set up as 'Russian ethnicity security zone enclaves' and/or outright annexed and if I was in the Baltic countries like Estonia, Lithuania, or Latvia I wouldn't count on any NATO help.  Almost a near certainity that the same thing will take place especially in Estonia due to the regions with a high Russian ethnic majority on the current border. 

As long as the West does nothing (and it is in no position too especially the US since they are largely alone on this issue), Putin will continue to push along.  It boosts his domestic ratings and only going after small territories that are adjacent to the current Russian borders & have larger Russian ethncities makes it a much easier political sell. 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 12:06 | 4632541 Jack Burton
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I doubt that. But it makes good press for CNN.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 13:23 | 4632795 RMolineaux
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I believe that Putin will resist such proposals.  His acceptance of the Crimea outcome was probably not his preference, but was forced on him by the circumstances.  He has a large stake in maintaining the current international order against separatist tendencies.  Look at Chechnya.  While it is true that the Baltics all contain significant Russophone populations, we should keep in mind that this was largely the result of Soviet colonization.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:19 | 4632330 IronShield
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This is unbelievable, unacceptable, preposterous, overreach...

Wait, who's the favorite on Dancing with the Stars?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:20 | 4632333 yogibear
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Putin vs the World bank.

Nukes are mightier than the printing press.

All Putin needs to do is get everyone off the Petrodollar and get countries to dump the dollar.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:25 | 4632375 sethstorm
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The problem with that is that Putin would be on the receiving end of the nukes.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 12:16 | 4632573 yogibear
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The thing you forget is that Russia has counter measures against any of the US nukes. Along with China, they know about everything the US has produced secretly. They even helped the Iranians take down a drone.

 

You are aware the Russians produced and tested the largest nukes? The Russians still have many. The foolish neocons are the only ones that think a nuclear exchange can be won.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:25 | 4633807 StychoKiller
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"Dr. Strangelove" was fiction (I hope!)

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:39 | 4633627 Radical Marijuana
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sethstorm:

EVERYFUCKINGBODY could be on the receiving end of a nuclear war, since it could cause a globalized nuclear winter!

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 13:04 | 4632556 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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More like The Vatican vs.The Russian Orthodox Church.

This game is a lot bigger and older than people know. Those Rothschild run central banks are nothing more than rings of power. One ring rules them all. When the Vatican lost England when the churches split they figured out how to take back control of England via the Bank of England.

Russian Orthodox church is the successor to Eastern Roman Empire and the Vatican is the successor to the Western Roman Empire. There is a lot of history behind this those Khazars or jooos have been used by the Vatican in the past to try and take down Byzantine Empire and the Russian Empire. Guess who ended the Khazar empire, it was the Russians when they tried to invade them for a 3rd time. Those khazars or jooos are really Samaritans, they've had a hard on for taking down the successor to Western Roman Empire for hundreds of years and have been aligned with the Vatican all this time. They almosted succeeded in killing the Orthodox church too with the Bolsevik revolution.

Islam just is another Vatican Heglian Dialetic creation also to deal with Christians that wouldn't convert to Constantinian Christianty (btw Emperor Constantine was the first pope of the modern Roman Catholic Church). Anyone remember the Donatists in Northern Africa (yeah I don't because history is written by the victors) and the Visogoths in Spain. Then they turned them loose on Eastern Rome. Notice how Islam never spread further than that in the Western Roman Empire as far into Europe goes. Even though Islam schismed like everything else into Sunni and Shia you ever notice the whole modern money petrodollar system is based around Saudi Arabia and not some other Arab Country or Shia. Why simply Saudi Arabia is the home of Mecca and defacto Vatican of Islam and the Saudi king(s) are the defacto popes, ever notice it is the Shias who are always on the western world's shitlists and they also tend to resist Central Banks being established in their countries ie Syria and Iran.

This rotten onion has many layers but when you get to the stinking rotted core it always oldest standing structures that are the true invisible hands in this game. You break the Western Banking system aka petrodollar including the Central Banks the Vatican is done also since it's ring of power no longer controls the other rings.

 

And some historical reading about Samaritans since you tend hear joo this and joo that there is difference between jews and joos. The jewish church really hasn't been a major power player since the fall of the Eastern Roman Empire it is more like a front for jooos who are working for the Vatican. Just like before the fall of the political empire, same as it ever was. Samaritans hijacked it like the Romans hijacked christianity and perverted it and tried to wipe away the origins from history and paint those against the churches as usurpers.

 

The joos everyone likes to paint all jews as with a wide brush are most likely closet Samaritans since Khazars when they converted they converted to Samaritism not Judiasm and their desecendents like the Rothschilds and probably people like Soros are all closet Samaritans calling themselves jews. The old Khazarian empire encompassed places like Crimea, parts of the Ukraine up to the Dniester River and Russia the southern border primarily was the Black Sea. These people dispersed to places like Germany after the Russians defeated them in about 1000 AD.

http://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-samaritans.htm

 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:57 | 4633687 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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A few more asides first on the Khazars. They were of Turkish origins and not related to any of the original tribes of Israel. Khazaria already had established jewish communities when it formed in places like Crimea and other areas along the Black Sea plus they had an influx of Jews come into the region to escape persecution from the Byzantines and Persians. They were considered pagans and conversion happened under King Bulan for most likely 2 reasons, 1 already fairly well established in size Jewish population and being caught between Islam and Christianity converting to Judiasm would have most likely brought them neutrality to both ends since both considered Judiasm a forebearer religion. There is also some debate on whether all Khazars converted or only the nobility and royality.

As far as being Samaritians whether they did convert to Samratism or traditional Judiasm they would still be considered Samaritians since before the conversion they would have been seen as gentiles by the jews and after conversion only as pagan 1/2 jews or joos by other jews.Any jews that intermarried with gentiles or joos would be considered Samaritans.

Other aside it was the Khazars who founded the city of Kiev.

 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:18 | 4634290 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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The other aside is the Donatists. The history understates the whole hypocrasy of the Vatican and it's disdain for Christianity. We have to go right to the beginning the whole point revolves around the real idea of the resurrection of Christ.

The story starts prior to the Council of Nicea in 303 BC when the last persecution happened. The original histories of Christ and other Apostolitic Christian documents were demanded by Rome to be handed over so they could be burned along with the worship of Caesar some North Africans did hand over the documents, others refused, those that didn't most were slaughtered.

Constantine comes into power and issues the edict of tolerance along with the Council Nicea the edict excluded those who would not join the new church.

Donatus Magnus a North African Christian leader and probably the first Martin Luther of Catholism refuses to join and not only that requires those that turned over scriptures to be rebaptized in order to rejoin the Apostolic congregation that also includes those that sat on the Council of Nicea. Basically this guy stood up to the Emperor of Rome and not only that he managed to live to tell the tale.

The reason he stood up has everything to do with how Constantine bastardized the resurrection of Christ which ties into baptism and the above.

The key points Constantine changed was the following

1. The place of the resurrection.

The Apostolic teachings say he was resurrected at the Mount of Olives. By changing this he undermines the whole precept of Christainity.

 "And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain" (I Cor. 15:14).

  "But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. For since by man came death, by man also came the resurrection of the dead, For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive" (I Cor. 15:20-22).

And we all know the official story about his mother Helen and the Holy Selpchure which is wrong and now you why he did it plus no one was going to tell the Roman Emperor otherwise within the empire.

2. The date of the birth of christ.

To this date both the orthodox and Catholic churches have this one wrong it should be sometime in April or May.

3. The date of ressurection.

From the Council of Nicea

JEHOVAH's new year begins at the new moon following the spring equinox

Which obviously wrong since it assumes the sun revolves around the earth.

4. He changed the scriptural method for becoming a Christian.

This is the key for a few reasons but the change was this

Prior to a person became a Christian through conversion or a new birth aka a literal resurrection. Baptism followed salvation.

Constantine rearranged the order and also never was baptized until right before he died. This is a key key change for a lot of reasons.

5. He united church and state.

Jesus was explicit about the relationship.

 "And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar's, and unto God the things which be God's." (Luke 20:25).

This the answer is simple why Christians wouldn't worship the Caesars like gods so Constantine made himself a defacto one by annointing himself the first pope by uniting church and state. If you believe in the Holy Trinity than no human should be on the same level including a Caesar.

6. He set up the church in Rome and then Costantinople instead of Jerusalem.

By doing that he turned Jerusalem into an afterthought where beforehand prior to Costantine Christians used to travel from all ends of the empire to visit the Mount of Olives.

Well we can see why Donatus refused to join the church and not only that his congregation kept growing and growing. They became known as the Donatists. They also believed in purity. Purity doesn't have to do with sin but with one's personal relationship to god which would have been heritical and anti-establishment in it's own right to know the truth is to know god.... truth is salvation the rebirth comes afterwards.

The other key point was Jesus' ability to teach to find the good hearts among bad labels like the parable about the jooos aka the Good Samaritan. The Vatican is a master of using these differences to divide people Jesus used them to unite through the ideas above.

Rome tried every trick in the book to get them to join the church and apparently they became such a big threat, even bigger than the Byzantine church that it was St. Augustine who came up with the idea of 'disgused mercenaries' to deal with them setting the groundwork for the creation of Islam. They considered them such a threat they sacrficed the empire's bread basket since the Muslims rolled in around 630 AD and slaughtered pretty much all the Donatists and then they set them loose on the Visigoths in Spain another group who also refused to join the Constantinian Church. Coincidence of not once the rolled into Spain they stayed until 1492 then the Moors decided to surrender just a Columbus left to sail for the new world freeing up Spain for conquest of the new world.

One other little tidbit about the Vatican is Council of Trent and their condemnation of all translations of the Bible except for the Latin Vulgate of Jerome

There is reason for this and we need to go to the Douay-Rheims translation from Latin into English specifically the following lines.

But I would have you know that the head of every man is Christ: and the head of the woman is the man: and the head of Christ is God (I Corinthians 11:2).

Every man praying or prophesying with his head covered disgraceth his head (I Corinthians 11:4).

So that is basically is saying every man who prays with head covered disgraces Christ. What do the papals do?

St Paul wrote this that is the even bigger smack in the face of Christianity because he is one who brought Christianity to Rome in the first place specifically the Apostolic version people like the Donatists followed.

Anyone getting the idea what is really going on here...

When you hear the term anti-christ you understand what they really mean and who and more importantly what institution it is referring to. Remember the devil's biggest trick was convincing the world he didn't exist.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:26 | 4633810 StychoKiller
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Putin don't have to do much in that regard, the US/UK is doing that all by demseff's!

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:22 | 4632346 BudFox2012
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I wander what Obama will say once the petition for the "secession of Alaska from the U.S. and joining Russia" gets its 100,000 signatures in a few weeks...

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:27 | 4632386 Dr. Engali
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Good question. Does he have a teleprompter on his golf cart?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 13:52 | 4632871 813kml
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Of course, also a green-screen on the putting green so his handlers can make it appear that he is somewhere else doing something Presidential.

And a personal ball washer, membership has its privileges.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:22 | 4632350 Remington IV
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Obama wants to join Venezuela and Cuba

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:25 | 4632372 americanspirit
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Texas has always had a strong secession movement - maybe its time we started having little talks with Vlad. We know he looks great on a horse - and there are plenty of trophy wives in Dallas and Houston who I'm sure would be happy to bake cookies for a stud like him. And I'll bet the Russian navy could use a couple of our excellent ports, while we also have quite a few Air Force bases that would make dandy staging areas for Russian "humanitarian flights'. Plus we already have a class of rapacious oligarchs in place who would be more than happy to finally be given their own country to rule.

I think Rick Perry should invite a team of Russian advisors on a fact-finding visit ASAP. This idea has real potential.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 13:51 | 4632904 813kml
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Putin wouldn't be interested, there is a saying about Texas and steers and queers.

Let's just say that Perry doesn't have horns.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:26 | 4632378 crtune
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There is a poetic symmetry to this "ethnic basis" shifting of the geopolitical monopoly board.  This was the primary justification used by Woodrow Wilson and his fellow world leaders as they shifted around the nations of the world while at the Versailles Conference in 1919.  Many familiar names did not exist before the Versailles meet:  Iraq, Iran, Azerbaijan, Armenia, and Georgia all arose at that time.  The prevailing sentiment was also fairly elitist as regards less advanced "islander" nations, who were almost all place in "protectorate" status.  Some of the nations mentioned make sense in historical light, but others make little sense at all, even by the puported ethnic dominance theory.

We know now, that these divisions were not ideal in any thoroughgoing sense of the word.  The division also contributed mightily to the international tension that finally erupted in full blast mega-war in 1939 and 1940.  I personally believe that movementst like this play into the "hand" worked by the typical megalomaniac sort that we should be quite familiar with by now.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:28 | 4632393 Perfecthedge
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I am taking a Russian language course AS WE SPEAK.  Several countries in Europe waiting for comrade Putin to send us our passports ASAP.  The queue is getting longer by the day...

Long on Russian Language courses.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:34 | 4632418 Volkodav
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Russian Accelerator.....

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:29 | 4632395 SpanishGoop
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I the Netherlands we once had a referendum saying that we didn't want te be part of the EU.

 I would not get my hopes up to much if i was living in Transnistria

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:29 | 4632400 SMC
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Wonder how long it will be before the BRICs are offering support to American revolutionaries engaging the crony-captialists and their political minions?

Exciting decade ahead.  Grab the popcorn.



Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:37 | 4632426 yochananmichael
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 wonder how many Americans wish Putin were our president?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:54 | 4632492 Volkodav
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Look this........ Amazing Poll at the Independent:

http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2014/04/amazing-poll-at-independent.html

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 12:07 | 4632544 Ralph Spoilsport
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Voldakov, I've been reading articles on Saker's blog over the last few days. Very interesting to compare with the propoganda we get in the West.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 12:25 | 4632600 Snidley Whipsnae
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Interesting that Merkle finished second behind Putin in the poll... a distant second but still second.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:42 | 4632439 John McCloy
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    Fuck em...they did it to themselves. They simply had to meddle in Ukraine and sneakily time it during Sochi thinking Putin would permit it to pass. If they did not involve themselves none of this would have been happening.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:47 | 4632459 marcusfenix
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damn, I'm starting to feel left out here...

"the people's republic of rochesterov" does have a nice ring to it.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:31 | 4632606 syntaxterror
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Vlad can flat-out have D.C. Rename that shit the Federalny Okrug Kolumbiya.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 12:31 | 4632618 Snidley Whipsnae
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...or, 100% the comrade surfers of Daytonaevsk vote to remove beach tolls

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 11:47 | 4632461 Son of Captain Nemo
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No they certainly will not... And these two certainly prove how not only incompetent and idiotic they are but more importantly how insane they've become.

One thing is for certain. At least the American people know who their parasite masters are?

http://consortiumnews.com/2014/03/19/neocons-ukraine-syria-iran-gambit/ http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2014/04/07/livni-israel-will-surround-abbas-until-he-surrenders-to-our-terms/
Mon, 04/07/2014 - 12:15 | 4632569 Oldrepublic
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TRANSNISTRIA, an interesting place to visit if you like adventure!

I once visited the place got a 3 hour  visa at the border!

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 12:24 | 4632596 syntaxterror
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President Pillow Biter should be drawing a red line any second now.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 13:16 | 4632781 Kirk2NCC1701
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What about Serbia?  They could be part of the 'RATO' (Russian Alternate Treaty Org'n), and opt for a Peace Alliance -- just like the kind that NATO keeps extending eastward to former Soviet Satellite countries -- even though President after US President (since Ronny Raygun) vowed not to do so.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 15:12 | 4633143 J_jade
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The new Eurasia zone can have the scraps left behind by the Eurozone, like i care.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 15:37 | 4633232 GhostInTheMachine
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This just in... all Macdonald's closed in Transniestria.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 15:39 | 4633239 NEOSERF
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If Illinois sought to become part of Russia, would we stop them?  Would Rahm?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 15:57 | 4633314 no1wonder
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Meanwhile, the People’s Republic of Kharkov has just been proclaimed (source Itar-Tass):

18:41 GMT: Activists in second-largest Ukrainian city of Kharkov have proclaimed the creation of a People’s Republic independent from the coup-imposed Kiev authorities. A group of local "deputies" have proclaimed they have taken all the responsibility for government activity in the eastern Ukrainian city.

The move was proclaimed near the building of Kharkov regional administration, where massive pro-Russian rallies have been held.

All the further decisions will be made by the people of the region in the form of a referendum, the activists have announced.

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