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Ron Paul: Fort Hood - An Avoidable Tragedy

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Submitted by Ron Paul via The Ron Paul Institute,

Last week we saw yet another tragedy at Ft. Hood, Texas, as a distraught Iraq war veteran killed three of his fellow soldiers before killing himself. It is nearly five years after the last Ft. Hood shooting, where 13 people were killed. These tragedies are heartbreaking and we certainly feel much sympathy for the families of the victims.

While there is much focus on the mental illness that appears to have driven many of these men to murder, what is left unsaid is the cause of the tragedy. Government officials and the media only talk about the symptoms that lead to these tragic events. They will tell us that there are people who get post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) and kill themselves and others. They will all call for more government intervention into the lives of those in the military to root out and “treat” mental illness.

But they will never question the two causes of these tragedies: the disastrous decade-long US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that have destroyed the minds of so many service members, and the government psychiatrists who prescribe extremely dangerous psychotropic drugs to treat these damaged soldiers.

On the drugs, it is true that in almost every story we read about these kinds of mass killings, whether on a military base or in a school, the kids or veterans have been treated with these dangerous drugs. When will the medical profession wake up and realize that these drugs are often worse than the illness they are designed to treat?

We need to understand that the problem of veterans returning home with serious mental illness is increasing at an alarming rate. We are not talking about a few thousand people returning from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. We are talking about a hundred thousand people. And according to government statistics, about 20 percent of returning vets will suffer from PTSD, and a further 20 percent will suffer from traumatic brain injuries.

The numbers are significant and they are frightening. While some will ignore these statistics and point out that these wars are producing far less deaths than previous ones, the fact is these brain injuries and disorders are a living death for the victims. And increasingly, those living in such horrific circumstances, full of deadly drugs that are supposed to treat the problem but only make matters worse, are striking out against those in their communities or committing suicide.

But what of the other main cause of these tragedies? What no media or government representative will admit is that US military members are suffering horrible mental illnesses because they have been sent over and over again into senseless wars overseas. That is the real cause of this crisis. The real horror comes when these soldiers return to the US to realize that the wars have not been won and all of the suffering and dying on both sides has been in vain. Just think of how many individuals over the last 15 years would not have suffered death or injury — or post-traumatic stress disorders or brain injuries —  if we didn't go to war unnecessarily!

The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan may be winding down, but the war against our veterans continues.  Why are the people who are really guilty, those who lied us into war, not being called to task?

Unfortunately, the truth is that these same people who lied us into war in Iraq are still getting us involved unnecessarily overseas, in Syria, Egypt, Libya, Ukraine. The problem, the interventionism that creates these deeply troubled service members, continues to thrive, unpunished. And even worse: these people continue to plan our future disasters even though they will not suffer the fate of those they send to be broken on foreign battlefields.

We must end the aggressive wars that break our military, and end the dangerous drugs that turn deeply-troubled victims into killers. Let’s have no more Ft. Hoods!

 

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Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:03 | 4634444 BlindMonkey
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Amen brother Paul.  Amen. 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:08 | 4634468 TruthInSunshine
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CHAPTER ONE

War Is A Racket

WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.

A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small "inside" group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes...

*War Is A Racket
By Major General Smedley Butler
Contents
        Chapter 1: War Is A Racket        
        Chapter 2: Who Makes The Profits?        
        Chapter 3: Who Pays The Bills?        
        Chapter 4: How To Smash This Racket!        
        Chapter 5: To Hell With War!    

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html

    Smedley Darlington Butler

Born: West Chester, Pa., July 30, 1881
Educated: Haverford School
Married: Ethel C. Peters, of Philadelphia, June 30, 1905
Awarded two congressional medals of honor:
capture of Vera Cruz, Mexico, 1914
capture of Ft. Riviere, Haiti, 1917
Distinguished service medal, 1919
Major General - United States Marine Corps
Retired Oct. 1, 1931
On leave of absence to act as
director of Dept. of Safety, Philadelphia, 1932
Lecturer -- 1930's
Republican Candidate for Senate, 1932
Died at Naval Hospital, Philadelphia, June 21, 1940
For more information about Major General Butler,
contact the United States Marine Corps.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:19 | 4634484 jbvtme
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how is it that you can walk into a place where everyone is a trained killer and manage to take out three soldiers and wound sixteen before anyone has the presense of mind to defend themselves? this smells like sandy hook and boston...when the shit hits the fan the ex gi's will fight on our side.  this false flag psy op was an effort to stigmatize battle fatigued soldiers and label them psycho so they can be disarmed...

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 23:06 | 4634608 DeadFred
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I've long thought we'll know the country is finished when two things happen, they disarm the vets and they destroy internet freedom.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 00:45 | 4634765 Buckaroo Banzai
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Bingo. This is a false flag operation designed to disarm all veterans.

Makes me sick.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 03:56 | 4634907 james.connolly
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Disarm the COPS anybody see that yet?

The cops are crazier than shit and armed to the teeth, and all sociopath's, ... but somehow when they blow away their family's its not a big deal  and rationalized by the MSM.

These MIL guys take some hard-core fucking and its not like they can 'just quit' like in the civilian world,

Honestly I'm surprised we don't see folks snap everyday.

*

So which is it BANZAI, your saying false-flag, and Ron Paul is saying real deal, .. nobody called you on it so I will.

Which is it BANZAI?

Of course I know the answer a UNICORN doesn't even know which end to hold a gun, ... so everything is a false-flag in unicorn-land.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 06:35 | 4634985 jbvtme
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ron paul is a controlled opposition suit. if he was a true agent of change, he'd have been wellstoned long ago.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 09:08 | 4635239 jbvtme
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jfk, mlk, jfk jr., john lennon, jimi hendrix, huey long, paul wellstone, charles lindberg, patrice lamumba, che guevarra...were all agents of change. paul is fake and is here to sanitize dissent and introduce the concept of a gold backed currency, which is bullshit.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 09:19 | 4635281 Buckaroo Banzai
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Just another MK ULTRA operation. They mentally and emotionally destabilize these people (either in situ, or ahead of time) and then trigger them when the timing is right.

Ron Paul makes valid points, they just don't apply in this particular case.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 23:35 | 4634659 Libertarian777
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because you're only allowed to carry a gun when overseas and brown people are hating on you for bringing them 'freedom'.

 

When you're back in your 'free' country, all weapons must be secured.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 00:53 | 4634780 A Nanny Moose
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b/c it's a Gun Free Zone. /wink

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 12:09 | 4635870 XitSam
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1- Free Speech Zones: Implies that free speech in the rest of the country is not allowed. 2- Gun free zones.  3-The police can kick you out of your house if they say they have the need.  4- The TSA/CBP can search anything within 100 miles of the border and at airports without a warrant.  

 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:37 | 4634542 james.connolly
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A great man on the level of Ron Paul, sadly last time somebody commented on ZH, and used smedly.butler as an avatar, that person was banned/deleted in days.

The trouble with Smedly Butler is that he told the truth.

>>>

People here should study the "BONUS BOY's", ... learn your real american history.

 

Understand that 1934, and 2014 are the same-same, same people in charge and same bullshit, ... amazing 80 fucking years, and absolutely nothing has fucking changed.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 07:23 | 4635032 jbvtme
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paul had a shot at cleaning up election fraud in this country. he won many more votes than he was credited with and won more states. why didn't he ever complain or challenge the issue in court?  he's part of the dialetic. a fuzzy teddy bear in a tiger's suit. the malcontents snuggle him in their play pens.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:48 | 4634571 disabledvet
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"war is the body count." Defense Secretary Robert S. McNamara.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 01:00 | 4634784 A Nanny Moose
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Mac missed the mark. War is the health of The State. The State is a body count. Democide. It's what's for breakfast.

Bytchez.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 06:00 | 4634956 james.connolly
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Cost Per Kill

 

You measure it in Rounds expended per kill (FIAT backed by GOLD),or you measure it in USD per Kill (FIAT backed by DEATH ).

 

In civil war it was 3 rounds per kill, in WWI/WWII it was 10/100 rounds per kill, by Vietnam war it was 50,000 rounds expended per kill. In the oldest times a boy went out with one round a rifle and if he blew that shot, then no meat on the table.

 

>>> But yes for all time in the MIL, its a business, and you ask questions like "HOW MUCH IS IT COSTING US TO KILL MEN", then you can budget accordingly. I mean Unicorn's like talking reality right? Let's do it, ...

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 23:34 | 4634653 Radical Marijuana
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Good points, TruthInSunshine!

I have little insight into how many military men and women, at different levels of command, are personally aware of the apparently infinite levels of deceits that operate through militarism, due to the history of warfare being based upon backing up deceits with destruction. The first book on The Art of War started by saying that success in warfare was based on deceit, and ended by saying that spies were the most important soldiers. My superficial study of history has indicated that almost every campaign that the American military became involved in was started, in one way or another, to some degree, by false flag attacks.

I suppose that if one joins the military being already aware of those social facts, then one could more readily come to terms with that situation. However, in my opinion, the majority of young men and women who join the military did not do so while they were aware of the degree to which, in fact, "war is a racket," and that the mainstay of that racket was deceits on every level, with those lies being different on every level.

Of course, I have almost zero realistic direct insight into that situation. However, it seems to me that most military people going insane are not assisted to go through their increasingly severe cognitive dissonances, but rather, are treated in ways which make that worse. In that context, I point out that, inside of the profit from disease systems, psychiatry has turned into another racket, and perhaps an even more evil one, due to the degree of deliberate ignorance and willful blindness behind those scenes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1nbZCNDgbY

The Marketing of Madness (1/18)

Meanwhile, there has been an illustrative controversy over treating post-traumatic stress syndromes with medical marijuana, since it is a well-established scientific fact that chronic cannabis consumption can help people forget learned fears, that were burned into their brain patterns by traumatic events.

Of course, the war on drugs was mostly the war against marijuana which therefore, again, demonstrates the bizarre controversies that surround the paradoxical ways that the profit from disease systems have developed, so that pharmaceutical products which have extremely serious side-effects for many people were promoted, while something that could be much more effective, and have almost no bad side-effects, had been suppressed. Indeed, medical marijuana is maybe just on the cusp of perhaps being allowed as a superior treatment, despite the history of the war on drugs having been decade after decade of classic examples of more wars based on deceits, covertly serving the social pyramid systems of debt slavery.

In my opinion, one of the most problematic issues is that most of the military personal were the maximum victims of being brainwashed to believe in bullshit. Theoretically, they most need to overcome that! However, it appears to be so extremely difficult for them, that many are forced through psychotic breakdowns, without help, but rather, treated in ways that make that even worse. Generally speaking "waking up" to social facts is inversely tough depending upon the degree to which one became embedded into the established systems before "waking up."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-auk5ZsP2M

I wish I knew this when I 'Woke Up'

 

But nevertheless, one of my favourite pie-in-the-sky daydreams is that enough of the people in the military would become sufficiently enlightened to be able to do their jobs better. However, in order to do that, enough of them would have to be able to entertain much more radical truths about the chronic political problems which created the need for the military in the first place. Theoretically, a military that has an abundance of weapons of mass destruction should become much more enlightened about how to operate the murder systems, because their weapons have become trillions of times more powerful. However, the ability to continue to brainwash military people to believe in the biggest bullies' bullshit social stories has been improved by many orders of magnitude instead.

Tragically, in my opinion, veterans are being deliberately destroyed, largely because as they get older they tend to "wake up" more, in the manner expressed by General Smedley Butler. In that context, the constantly record-breaking trends towards veterans committing suicide, and/or going through psychotic breakdowns, are expressions of the collective circumstances as a whole, which are driving our whole civilization towards committing suicide, and to be going through psychotic breakdowns. Furthermore, most of the treatments prescribed by the established authorities are actually making those problems get worse, rather than better. Naturally, I would recommend that the better treatments for discovering that the established systems are almost infinite tunnels of deceits, where the lies are different at every level, are more radical truths being discovered at every possible level.

Since the military is being more and more transformed by technology, the general principle that the philosophy of science is the most important issue for a technologically based society is a principle which more applies in the case of the military than for any other aspect of society. In my view, military people need more than anyone else to go through intellectual scientific revolutions in the ways that they think, and those processes are imperative for them to become saner.

After the development of atomic bombs, understanding that energy is spirit becomes more imperative, the more atomic bombs are made. Furthermore, more fully understanding that requires understanding entropy in radically different ways than those which have been promoted through thousands of years of history, as the forms of the biggest bullies' bullshit, which were always backwards, due to the paradox of successful warfare depending on deceits, which philosophical errors become trillions of times more dangerous, as the weapons become trillions of times more powerful.

Of course, by and large, each individual tragic story about one particular veteran tends to not be seen in that bigger picture, because they themselves did not perceive those overall circumstances, but rather, only things closer to them did they perceive. But nevertheless, that is the bigger picture that I feel more of them should perceive, as the best path to greater sanity with respect to having the duties to actually operate the murder systems, by executing the death controls.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 00:52 | 4634775 Oh regional Indian
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Long but Excellent....good stuff RM!

It's the war of man mind vs. machine mind...

ori

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 06:47 | 4634991 jbvtme
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cut to the chase. war is a bank robbery. thugs taking someone else's shit: land, gold, natural resources, women...when we realize that, game over.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 01:29 | 4634818 MEAN BUSINESS
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" ...military people need more than anyone else to go through intellectual scientific revolutions in the ways that they think..." -RM

 

Shamar Thomas leaps to mind. "Soldier's Inquiry" at algoxy.com is quite interesting too.

 

Thanks for the SO link above!

 I noticed in that video he spoke of science which reminded me of the comment made during the AR5 WG2 press release 31MAR14 when one panelist alluded to AGW being the most studied scientific experiment in the history of man (words to that affect). 

WG3 reports this Sunday...

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:10 | 4634476 Greenskeeper_Carl
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Saw him speak on Friday, met him, and got him to sign a book. Any one else on here in central FL make it to Orlando this weekend?

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 07:24 | 4634998 jbvtme
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moved

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:11 | 4634477 zerozulu
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Economy is in shamble, 135,000 mentally abnormal people are ready to come home. God bless everyone.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:21 | 4634500 duo
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If we had Vietnam-era battlefield medicine, we would have had 100,000 dead by now in Iraq and Afghanistan.  No wait, we wouldn't, because once the casualties started piling up, and there were 20-30K widows and orphans, somebody in Congress would have put a stop to these wars.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:30 | 4634522 666
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It's funny how Vietnam veterans never suffered from PTSD or needed any anti-psychotic medications.

Oh, wait...

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 07:07 | 4635017 Mareka
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We are supposed to feel all patriotic at the story of the multiple amputee vet making his comeback after being blown up in his 4th deployment. 

...Not supposed to question why his government ruined his one and only life to enhance the profits of the oligarchs.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 00:00 | 4634692 Freddie
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Bankers wars. If you have relatives in the military or who are thinking about it - encourage them to think again about fighting for dual citizens.

Also unplug your TV and Hollywood because they lie about everything and glorify this BS.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 08:28 | 4635112 Ace Ventura
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I've certainly tried. One relative however, likes the structure and routine of military life, in addition to the action. I told him that will all change the day his buddy's (or his) melon or limbs are turned into hamburger-helper right next to him. What can you tell a guy in his mid-twenties though? I remember feeling pretty indestructible myself when I was that age.

Sigh.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 03:57 | 4634908 Tom_333
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What psychiatrists would that be...? You really think psychiatrists see the average grunts? They get to see nurse practitioners and medics and corpsemen and such. Health care is generally templated and diagnoses and treatment strategies come out of a pc. Why do you think everyone get´s on the same psychotropics with the same effects , time and time over? This is more in the vein of Affordable Care and that Act is coming to a place near you if you haven´t yet made it´s acquitance. Yes- there are psychiatrist around but they couldn´t be able to deal with all those combat-stressed grunts. How could they? They are more working on planning and gaming the system to get more mileage out of the troops. Generally speaking.

It´s the same as investment strategies for fixed incomes or low net worth.T-Bills.T-Bonds.With a sprinkling of adventure and bold risk in the form of Facebook  (more aimed at creating liquidity for those great gubmint operations).

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:05 | 4634446 new game
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all so crazy. some days i just want to be a boreal owl in the north woods...

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:07 | 4634459 fonzannoon
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some days i just want to be kate upton's bicycle seat

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:09 | 4634473 new game
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lol'g, that was good!

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:10 | 4634474 jbvtme
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some days?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:17 | 4634493 fonzannoon
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the other days i'd rather just wear her ass as a hat and skip the whole bicycle seat charade.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:23 | 4634505 jbvtme
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wonder what her laundry basket would fetch on ebay?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:03 | 4634447 Beau Tox
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People can still follow the advice of the good doctor and his prescription for our veterans.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:03 | 4634448 Dexter Morgan
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End the Fed.  As long as the fed lives we die.  Right on, Dr. Paul.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:04 | 4634451 DanDaley
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Thank Bill Clinton for disarming military people on US military bases, thus making yet another liberal free-fire-attack-me-now zone.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:31 | 4634524 ebworthen
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Exactly, no reason for un-armed enlisted, other than control just like un-armed citizens.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 23:02 | 4634599 samsara
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Who would be afraid of the military having weapons state side?

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 00:52 | 4634779 Oh regional Indian
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Oh hhh ho ho.....indeed who would?

 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:06 | 4634455 New_Meat
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not a tragedy, that is a situation from the gods

an atroicity, that is closer to the truth.

- Ned

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:08 | 4634467 Greenskeeper_Carl
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No, those im charge do not care about these people. You are nothing but expendable serfs. A half step above the student loan serfs. Your patriotism is viewed as a vulnerability, go over seas and defend the petrodollar. As a disclaimer, I fell for the same thing. I spent a year over there protecting Iraqi oil terminals and attempting to train Iraqi marines to do the same thing. After spending a year of my life doing that, and seeing that the average Iraqi doesn't give a shit about any of it, why should I? And why should any us servicemen risk his ass over it?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:11 | 4634479 bigrooster
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Fuck you Obama and all of the other neocons in control.  May your sons and daughters die a horrible death like that you have sent so many others to.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 00:23 | 4634720 Babaloo
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You and your up voters prove to be complete idiots. Where is the blame for the guy you voted for twice? And don't try to bullshit me or anybody else and say you didn't vote for that dumb bastard Bush.

The guy, along with that war criminal Chemey and his sidekick Rumsfeld, who actually started the wars? You sir are nothing but a hypocritical asshole.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 08:37 | 4635128 Ace Ventura
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Yes, they too deserve the guillotine....but why get indignant at the suggestion we should begin with the guy CURRENTLY RUNNING AND EXPANDING the NW0 crap Dubya and his minions started?

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 08:44 | 4635146 SameAsItEverWas
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Sitting president can issue pardons for treason, even if it was done by his agents.

Retired presidents can no longer issue pardons.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:12 | 4634482 new game
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carl-i would say your life is changed in a good way...

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:28 | 4634513 tony wilson
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Last week we saw yet another tragedy at Ft. Hood,

no we never unkle ron.

just more jewish satanic psy operations.

next

next

next

into fucking  cnn green screen infinity

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:28 | 4634516 ebworthen
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"...the war against our Veterans continues."

Spot on; and the MIC is busy recruiting more victims.

Fresh meat for the meat grinder, and once they've used you up you are meatloaf to them, if that.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:30 | 4634519 Reaper
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How do you reconcile killing for Barack or Bush's ego, or some neo-cons or bankers desires? How do you reconcile killing for a cause which they never wanted to win or choose to lose? How do you reconcile risking your life for ungratefuls? They way to reconcile is to acknowledge your error and change. The government's way for you to reconcile is to take some drugs. They used you as a disposable tool; you owe neither them nor their system anything. You owe your life everything.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:33 | 4634532 NoDebt
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A close family memeber of mine retired from the Air Force last weekend.  

24 years, starting as a Minuteman ICBM tech at Vandenberg in CA.  A sharp CO caught that he was WAY too smart to just be turning wrenches in a hole and put him into the imagery exploitation ranks (analyzing phots from spy planes and satellites).  He became one of the top imagery analysts in the US in a matter of a few years.  Obviously, he outgrew that pretty quick and branched out into working on so many secure networking and prototype projects you would think he was lying if you ever saw his complete resume.  He also designed a complete portable power generation unit that could be carried in a soldier's backpack that would run on anything from JP1 to Diesel to rubbing alcohol with a solar-powered backup (he got 3nd place in an open competition for it, being beaten only by a bunch of brainiacs from MIT and such with a million dollar budgets.  He had a $5000 budget, but understood DEEPLY what would really work in the field.)

If I had any understanding of where somebody like him, with his skills could be useful I'd hire him in a cold minute.  Sure, he's got a job and is doing OK.  It's just tough to find where all that stuff he knows directly translates into the civilian work world.  He'll find his way- he's a mentially-tough bastard like me who isn't knocked out of the box easily.

But these transitions are not easy for many ex-military.  I can't imagine what it would be like if your only skills coming out of the military were taking orders, toting a gun and kicking in doors.  That would have to be a rough transition.

Dr. Paul is right.  Easy to get into wars.  A lot tougher to get out.  No easy answers on how to pick up the pieces afterwards.

 

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 07:26 | 4635037 DanDaley
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I can't imagine what it would be like if your only skills coming out of the military were taking orders, toting a gun and kicking in doors. 

 

Seems there is a place for a lot of these folks in other branches of the federal government, from the IRS, and BLM (Bureau of Land management), to NOAA and the Library of Congress -all the feds are arming up like no other. 

http://www.infowars.com/federal-snipers-train-guns-on-family-for-filming...

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:38 | 4634545 kchrisc
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The powers that be and the propaganda media care for one thing when these things happen: Using it as a "Don't waste a crisis" gun centralization opportunity.

However, I wonder what psychological problems those flying and killing with drones have?!

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:44 | 4634561 disabledvet
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this guy spent ten years as a E-4 "and had the kids to show for it."

hypocrites like Ron Paul can talk about the front line folks all they want...but this guy isn't gonna be raising these families (and he had more than one) using that kinda funny money.

to me the essence of gold backed money is paying your soldiers well...in effect "TRULY providing for their family" because the worth of the money is absolutely known.

this hasn't happened in so long (not since the Fed was created...and certainly not since 1973) that the fact that there are families here is simply lost in all the " paperwork." (let alone the debate.)

I mean let's face it...everyone is all aboard the SS Debt Bubble...so sure, "it's all about losing wars." But a gold standard wasn't created by pacifists...least of all for the sake of pacifism.

Nor it has been argued was it ended as such ironically.

In fact some have argued World War I was caused by the Fed being created.

Did we go to Iraq and Afghanistan to return the USA to
sound currency? Hardly. Did that stop everyone from "being for the war before they were against it"?

Hardly.

At what point are we talking about what is real AT ALL here is my beef.

I think that is what Putin and the Duma are doing here...really, truly and honestly offering up "that alternative" called reality itself.

I think our inability to simply measure our words ("we are on the side of Ukraine") with our deeds ("we're not doing anything for you about Crimea") simply says it all to me.

"If we cannot even measure our words carefully how well are measuring our money?" (in the form of financing out obligations.)

I would argue not well at all. (Incredibly interest rates have never been this low though.)

God help us if we have "lock 'n load" with Russia.

I'm just a student of history here...but I would argue once these things start they don't end up stopping for decades or longer. "This is why we take the time to understand the Russian point of view." Not because we agree with it but precisely because we disagree with it but therefore meaning we are serious about changing the "path" or "trajectory."

Does this make sense to anybody? Does saying this make disabledvet sound like a wussy or "crazy"? Because I sure don't here Ron Paul...or anyone it seems...saying this...and if we get this war then you'll see what crazy truly IS. (wiki Von Monstein for a primer.)

I hear "you are either on Putin's side" or "you are on the West's side."

Yikes.

There's a one hundred thousand man dead Russian Army. And that's just on the Western 1/3'rd of Crimea.

The USA can imagine such casualties...just not in either this or the twentieth century.

Keep that in mind when all you can think about is "who's side are we on"...especially when we may in fact already be on a side "and that train of diplomacy has left the station."

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 23:02 | 4634598 22winmag
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The Fort Hood shoot 'em up was just like a typical Saturday night in Chi Town.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 23:03 | 4634600 samsara
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Best President America Never Had

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 23:11 | 4634615 Duc888
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Stealth "gun control"

 

You take SSRI's and you are legally not allowed to obtain a concealed firearms permit.  You can not legally purchase a firearm, grounds for disaproval.

 

How many preteens and young adults are popping these happy pillz for ADD? 

 

 

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 11:57 | 4635801 silentboom
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ADD?  They're snorting them just to hit the club for the night.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 23:10 | 4634617 Jack Burton
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Okay, I admit I am getting near to old timer status soon. But when I was in the military, any service member presenting to a military doctor with the mental symptoms of this soldier would have been recommended for a medical discharge. I saw dozens of people I knew over my years be discharged for depression, anexity, sexual diviations etc. I now understand that the new military has tens of thousands on medications for mental issues. I'm just saying, years ago mental illness was not tolerated if a doctor became aware of it. Things have changed!

And a Medical discharge, if your service record was clean, was always an Honorable Discharge.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 23:14 | 4634626 bart12
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Our servicemen are just cannon folders for our vast military industrial complex..

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 23:32 | 4634652 JR
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"Wild Irish Rose" written by Braddock.

They sent him to Asia to fight in a war
He came back home crazy and asking, "What for?"
They had him committed oh, medals and all
To a mental hospital with rubber walls

They cut off the funding oh, they cut off the lights
He hit the street runnin' that cold winter night
Now the streets are the only place he can call home
He seems oh so lonely, but he's never alone

He lies there holding his Wild Irish Rose
This crazy old fool in the smelly old clothes
He could have had something much better, God knows
Than a half-empty bottle of Wild Irish Rose

A baby named Scarlet with laughing blue eyes
Has been in his wallet, ah way back since '65
So much was forgotten, oh so far back in time
Way down in the bottom of a river of wine

You know, they found him at Clark street, West 25th
They can't even find a heartbeat Lord, his fingers are stiff
Just like they're all frozen, he's holding her tight
But the habit oh, it's broken, this is Roses' last night

He lies there holding his Wild Irish Rose
But his soul's in a place where a real hero goes
Now he's got something better much better, God knows
Than a half-empty bottle of Wild Irish Rose

George Jones – Wild Irish Rose

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfAPhJW5fOY&list=RDTp5Rdb9ncfM

Nearly 40% of the HOMELESS in the U.S.A. are VETERANS

110,000 Vets have committed suicide since The Vietnam War ended.

If you need assistance please call 1-888-777-4443 – National Veterans Foundation

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 01:02 | 4634793 msjimmied
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Son Rand Paul calls out Cheney for pushing for war, fattening the bottom line for Halliburton.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/04/rand-paul-dick-cheney-exploi...

 

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 03:46 | 4634903 james.connolly
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Rand Paul calling the CHENEY kettle black, now that is touching.

How in the fuck did  Rand Paul become a USA senator? That shit on his nose didn't come from a native american lobby.

Cheney and Rand are both rePUGlicans, they both eat 'dual passport' shit, ... they're now closet queers that can offer a debate where both ends of the spectrum are owned by the same foreign lobby.

*

ADL call's Papa Paul the #5 most dangerous anti-semite in the world, yet his son breaks bread with the finest NEO-CON's the world has ever known. This shit is to deep for even an old Irish Drunk to wade.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 11:51 | 4635782 silentboom
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Have another drink.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 02:20 | 4634858 CheapBastard
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Lets not forget ... this is an all volunteer army.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 04:02 | 4634911 Tom_333
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Yes. And they all had a lot of choices. They couldabeen.....been....like......

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 03:37 | 4634899 BlackVoid
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But Americans like war! It is a good show.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 06:12 | 4634966 pies_lancuchowy
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Gentiles, bow to your real masters. Kneel before us.

We will start as many wars as we like, we will forge as many trillions of dollars as we like.

Because we are the Chosen Nation.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 06:24 | 4634976 WTFMOFO
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War vet here.    Just cause a mofo offs a few people does not mean it is service related mental illness.  A vet of a foreign war kills someone and I guess it has just got to be PTSD?

Likely excuse.

 

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 11:47 | 4635769 silentboom
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He was being treated for it by the military on a military base.   It's also where he shot people.  I guess a supermarket incident might have triggered it (cart collision?), but it's unlikely.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 08:42 | 4635120 SameAsItEverWas
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Apropos of almost everyone being a zombie who doesn't know any history ...

I had a hard time believing https://mises.org/daily/3434/The-Story-of-American-Revisionism where Riggenbach says Gore Vidal published his Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace without knowing Harry Elemer Barnes had published a book of same title and same subject in 1953.

Gore Vidal's publisher didn't check?  Gimme break!

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 08:50 | 4635163 GoldIsMoney
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I beg to differ. It' not avoidable because it's the core the force of states. States do must raise themselves, and they do need to have enough threats to threaten the own population. So it's unavoidable for large states, and so well now States can not do anything about it to not experience it. Soldiers do way too much believe they are doing if for the country. But that is again the core of all lies to soldiers. They are there to "threaten" and they are there to fight and kill , the justification for it are mostly "statesmen" made....

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 09:01 | 4635217 sessinpo
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Tragedies  are a part of life. There is no utopia under any political or social ideology.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 10:00 | 4635400 Stud Duck
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These young vet are not suffering from PTSD. You got to stop living the war before you begin the PTSD. 

The next thing ya got to do is make peace with the ghosts, if not, your life will be nothing but a long horror story.

Only the one that have lived it can know what it is. A FLMA is not capable of any diagnosis beyond the common cold and they fuck that up half the time.

We have all grown up in a warrior culture, look around you, look at what is on the tube, all glorification in way way or another of war.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 11:43 | 4635758 KCMLO
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I really wish people that are hard-core "support our troops" fanatics make this logical leap:

Soldiers are admirable because they sacrifice their lives in service to their country.

Their country's leaders don't think their lives are worth a shit by sending them into pointless wars, or worse yet, wars that serve only to enhance their own power.

The Support Our Troops groups should be the most incredibly pissed off, burn down DC, kind of folks in this entire country.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 11:47 | 4635768 Debt Slave
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Yet Sean Hannity still grovels at Dick Cheney's feet, plays his theme song "Independence Day", and plays other tunes where some redneck growls that "we'll put a boot in your ass" because it's the American Way.

Between the paycheck raping Marxist libtards on the left, and the war mongering Zionist conservatards on the right, the working man in this country is totally screwed.

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