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Russia Accuses US Mercenaries Of Inciting Civil War In Ukraine

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In response to claims by the Ukraine government (and the west) that Russia provoking trouble in Eastern Europe - with The White House's Jary Carney even suggesting that pro-Russia demonstrators were paid - Russia's foreign ministry has responded. Posting via their Facebook page, Russia urged Ukraine to halt any interior military preparations which could instigate a civil war. But the kicker, for which we anxiously await a rebuttal, is Russia's comment that they "are particularly concerned that the operation involves some 150 American mercenaries."

 

The US administration perspective... (via WaPo)

In Washington, the Obama administration expressed deep skepticism that the scattered uprisings and building takeovers in cities such as Donetsk and Kharkiv have been spontaneous. "There is strong evidence suggesting some of these demonstrators were paid," said Jay Carney, the White House spokesman.

 

"If Russia moves into eastern Ukraine, either overtly or covertly, this would be a very serious escalation," Carney said.

The Ukrainian perspective...

The Ukrainian government dispatched its highest-level police and security officials to the region Monday in an effort to put down the separatist agitation.

 

Kiev is confronting an attempt to "destabilize the situation," Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk said at an emergency cabinet meeting Monday. "The plan is for foreign troops to cross the border and seize the country's territory, which we will not allow."

And the Russian perspective, as ITAR-TASS reports,

The Russian Foreign Ministry urged Ukraine to halt any interior military preparations, which could instigate a civil war in the country, the ministry was quoted as saying on its Facebook.com account.

 

“According to our information, units of the Interior troops and Ukraine’s national guards as well as militants from the illegal armed formation ‘The Right Sector’ are being amassed in the southeastern parts of Ukraine and in the city of Donetsk,” the ministry said.

 

We are particularly concerned that the operation involves some 150 American mercenaries from a private company Greystone Ltd., dressed in the uniform of the [Ukrainian] special task police unit Sokol,” the ministry said.

It seems the tit-for-tat sanctions have escalated to tit-for-tat explanations of who is escalating. However, whet is clear is the Russian warning which seems to implicitly be 'don't start this or we will finish it'. All along Putin has claimed this is to protect his countrymen in a foreign nation...

 

Here is some color on Greystone:

Greystone began providing services in 2004 as an affiliate of what is now Xe Services. In 2010, Greystone was acquired by current management. Greystone now operates as a standalone, management owned provider of aviation and protective support services and training.

 

Greystone has provided services in over ten countries worldwide. Greystone has offices in Bermuda, Chesapeake, Virginia and the United Arab Emirates. Mailing addresses are listed to the right.

 

Greystone provides highly trained, sophisticated and culturally knowledgeable personnel to support your operations. We quickly create turn-key solutions that are tailored to meet each customer's unique requirements and circumstances. We call in the best people to create the best solutions to support our customer's mission and ensure their success.

 

Our personnel are our most important asset. Greystone's worldwide network permits the company to select the right people. We draw from the premier law enforcement agencies, militaries and corporate entities throughout the world. Greystone carefully screens and evaluates all candidates to ensure only the highest caliber individuals are selected. Our on-site management team ensures that our personnel employ best practices while executing projects efficiently and effectively.

 

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Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:20 | 4633973 NOTaREALmerican
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Facebook page?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:23 | 4633988 Timmay
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America, that shining beacon on the hill.... is now that spreading cancer on the hill. 

 

IMF is now the global IRS. Bow down bitches!

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:27 | 4634003 Keyser
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Finally, someone calling the US on it's bullshit... 

 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:33 | 4634019 Looney
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Teleprompted announcement:

"Newkelar rain's comin'! Shelter in place! Grab the csissors to protect yourselves!!"

Out... Looney   ;-)

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:34 | 4634029 Manthong
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“offices in Bermuda, Chesapeake, Virginia and the United Arab Emirates”

Heh heh..   convenient access to corporate facilities for company personnel and customers is important and the security threat in the 500 miles surrounding Bermuda is substantial

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:47 | 4634077 HelluvaEngineer
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"US Mercenaries are Inciting Civil War" - Fucking DUH
Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:50 | 4634081 Looney
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I cunt wait for a... some kinda floss-flag ™ event.

Oh, and please, don’t call it a Black Swan, ‘cause it’s raciss. I think? ;-)

Looney

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:15 | 4634325 TaggartGalt
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academi#Greystone_Limited

Their web site advertises their ability to provide "personnel from the best militaries throughout the world" for worldwide deployment. Tasks can be from very small scale up major operations to "facilitate large scale stability operations requiring large numbers of people to assist in securing a region"

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:40 | 4634388 markmotive
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Ukraine is very important to Russia. Best not to F_ck with the bear.

Understanding the Russian mindset: "Geography determines destiny"
Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:44 | 4634395 BlindMonkey
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I have said once it started that the way Russia is playing the Ukraine event is what a REAL red line looks like. This shit ain't drawn in crayon.  It is undyed and the red will be provided in blood if need be. 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:39 | 4634549 SamAdams
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Greystone logo is a pyramid, the symbol of evil and corruption.  Trademark of the money creators and their mammonites.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 23:32 | 4634651 john39
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Evil is not an abstraction.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 09:30 | 4635313 SamAdams
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Correct, evil is not a symbol, art, drawing, picture, scene, play, etc. 

However, symbols are powerful visual cues to those in the club.  Just like the cross of the Sun of God, Jesus, is a powerful symbol.  Get it?

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 01:48 | 4634829 Freddie
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One of those Illuminati deals?

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 09:53 | 4635377 drumpoint
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Shoot the Putin bear!

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:26 | 4634510 TheReplacement
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Wanna bet on how many (or few) will grasp the import of that quote?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 23:45 | 4634672 john39
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pretty sure that the Russians, Chinese and others around the world are getting it these days...  most of the world in fact, but sadly, most americans still think america is about freedom, justice and whatever other lies the slave owners are peddling these days.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 00:57 | 4634785 Drifter
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Wana bet how few Americans even know what Ukraine is?

That's why TPTB continue doing what they do with no measurable resistance.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 03:22 | 4634888 Joenobody12
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https://plus.google.com/+ThomasBaekdal/posts/idEVDm3FS7f

 

About 16% of Americans know where Ukraine is. Others are off by a mile, I mena 10K miles. Some think it is in the US, others think Cannda, or in the middle of the Indian ocean. The survey found that the less accurate the location the respondent believe, the more they want US military inervention. 

 

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 00:37 | 4634749 icanhasbailout
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they just so happen to have come across a used Boeing 777, now that you mention it

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:18 | 4634166 DeadFred
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The might get away with it as long as they remember the Russians are listening in on the encrypted calls and teir progress reports might up up on YouTube.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:04 | 4634453 Kirk2NCC1701
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"Greystone smash!"
/s

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 00:38 | 4634751 icanhasbailout
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By the power of Greystone! I have the power!

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:18 | 4634496 caconhma
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The Obama administration has blinked following to Putin's nuclear threat. Our community organizer and his puppeteers are full of shit. Their Ukraine miscalculation was colossal.

It is everybody guess as how far Russia will push all over the world both militarily and economically. In a mean time, China is watching and makes it own conclusions.

Like I said earlier, the Crimea invasion was an equivalent to Germans moving into Poland back in 1939.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 01:25 | 4634813 Drifter
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No need for any nuclear threat, Russia/China can do plenty of financial damage to America, and we've made it easy for them with our $17 trillion national debt, making America the glass house that shouldn't be throwing rocks at anyone.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 09:03 | 4635228 Oldrepublic
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http://usawatchdog.com/whole-eastern-world-rebelling-against-the-dollar-jim-willie/?utm

Whole Eastern World Rebelling Against the Dollar-Jim Willie
Tue, 04/08/2014 - 03:26 | 4634889 DogOfSinope
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NSA troll?
Russia didn't threat anyone in last 25 years.
This is not about Russia's threat, but about USA threat - both covet and blatant rampage throughout the world resulting in millions dead civilians: Granada, Bosnia, Kosovo (occupying teritory of an sovereign nation and UN member and declaring it independent), Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Tunisia, Egypt, Syria...Spying, meddling, destabilizing, arbitrary sanctioning, bombing, illegal renditions (hijacking people), drone murders, jailing without bringing charges, inserting private death squads (i.e. Greystone, Blackwater...), surpressing freedom of media, using intelligence structures for industrial/economic spying... All this without any democratic oversight.
Even Roman Empire under Ceasar behaved in more ethical way.
Now, Russia said "enough". And, it's not too soon. For the sake of both USA and the rest of the world.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 09:45 | 4635347 eurogold
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+ 1000  ! To DogOfSinope

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 09:52 | 4635373 drumpoint
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It's Putin stupid!  Bear hunting season!

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 03:24 | 4634891 Joenobody12
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Mr. Caconhma, I bet you dont know where Ukraine is.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 17:28 | 4636992 mkkby
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Just turn right at Sarah Palin's house.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 06:40 | 4634992 Volkodav
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You know shit...Germans finally moved cos Poles were murdering ethnic Germans

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 07:44 | 4635051 DogOfSinope
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Yeah. And, Poles organised referendum where they overwhelmingly voted in favor that they are in fact Germans and hence want to be occupied by Germany. And, they wanted to be first to be occupied. Hence term "Pole possition".

/*sarc off

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 08:52 | 4635175 Sandmann
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and did it again after 1945

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 01:47 | 4634828 Freddie
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Yes - go back and see that when the Federal Reserve aka European bankster familes bank was "voted on" in the dead of night.  The IRS was launched about the same time to take the money for the bankster families.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:31 | 4634011 knukles
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Oh yeah, right at the start of this whole cluster fuck, there was a news piece about ta dah!  150 YankieDog mercenaries arriving on a Jumbo jet somewhere in "The" Ukraine.
Or something damnably close thereto.
Makes sense.
Particularly given all the fine successes our Diplomacy has Turned of Late.

 

PS  And talkin' about Diplomacy, this just in on RanSquwak:

Senate passes bill barring US entry for Iran envoy to the UN

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:01 | 4634113 Berspankme
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Like a tragic comedy and that little punk ass ball licker Carney needs an ass whupping. This whole admin is an assclown show

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:14 | 4634143 Looney
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I don’t want to put any words in your mouth, BenSpankMe, butt… “this whole admin” prolly means “all administrations, for the last 20-somepin’ years, including the teleprompted one”… ;-)

Tragically comedic, indeed…

Looney

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:37 | 4634215 Berspankme
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I forgot the "s" in admin

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:47 | 4634567 Looney
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And I effed-up the "Ber" part. Sorry, Dude. Be well and happy! ;-)

Looney

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:27 | 4634357 Real Estate Geek
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knuk, I for one am glad to hear that the USSA is barring entry of UN diplomats.  Perhaps these tantrums will cause the UN to decamp for, say, Brussels. 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:11 | 4634480 Leaping Lizard
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Perhaps the UN will move to Bermuda.  Can hire their security from Greystone>Xe>Blackwater

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 06:33 | 4634984 negative rates
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Did you just get spanked?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:31 | 4634018 McMolotov
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"Bow down to her if you want, bow to her. Bow to the Queen of Slime, the Queen of Filth, the Queen of Putrescence. Boo! Boo! Rubbish! Filth! Slime! Muck! Boo! Boo! Boo!"

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:41 | 4634070 Hobo Sapien
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Follow the Leader

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPWQfAv_qBQ

Jarringly high volume recommended.

 

edit: WOW! my first down arrows here. Notable.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:56 | 4634586 Spumoni
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They'll most likely kill us in the morning...

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:01 | 4634116 post turtle saver
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well, for my part I'm particularly concerned that Vladimir Putin is a closet cross-dressing homosexual... but then I don't have any proof... kinda like Russia has no proof of any "mercenary" involvement backed by the US... see how this game is played?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:24 | 4634349 yogibear
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Barry and Reggie get it on occasionally.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:34 | 4634378 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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The number of down votes to your posts proves my beloved ZH has become a sounding board for Putin. Obama sucks cock and so does Putin.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 00:26 | 4634734 TungstenBars
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Putin is no saint, but as long as he fight american imperialism, destruction, and tyranny I support him. 

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 02:02 | 4634844 Drifter
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"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:15 | 4634487 Leaping Lizard
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Proof shortly to appear on youtube.  These Blackwater guys download the Russian language like Neo?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:31 | 4634525 TheReplacement
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Both sides are so transparent in their ambitions and efforts it's revolting.  To bad there are so many disinformation agents on ZH now.  No matter how sick the US Gov't is, there is no reason for all the love shown to the KGB/FSB/IMF man Putin.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 15:46 | 4634771 Anusocracy
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Tell me about all the woe heaped on the world by the US in the last couple of decades and then tell me about what Russia has done during that period. A period of time when there was no serious threat to the US and it's behavior was still nothing short of barbaric.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 01:14 | 4634776 TungstenBars
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If this was 30 years ago I would agree.

 

It's a different generation and there is only one player that is not only covered head to toe in the blood of tens of thousands of innocent women and children, but is proud of it. 

 

Sounds like the .gov brainwashing has worked well on you. 'Dem evil commie Ruskies are tyrants' kind of thing

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 00:59 | 4634788 sethstorm
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To bad there are so many disinformation agents on ZH now

Plenty of the Russia-side seem to be posting articles.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 03:37 | 4634897 Joenobody12
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What is it that you do not understand?

Ukraine is on the other side of Earth so it is none of our business what happened there. There are so much problems at home need the blackman's attention but instead he stirs up more problems worldwide.

The US was got caught overthrowing a democratically elected government and help install a neo-Nazi group of people who forbid its peple to speak their native lanuage and openly vow to kill their own citizens with a Russian ehtic background. 

If it is not Putin , another Russian leader will do the exact same thing and we will cheer for him to slap Obama in the face for being stupid and arrogant and taking us down the road of ruin.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 02:40 | 4634876 matrix2012
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can't locate the said facebook page!

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:23 | 4633980 LetThemEatRand
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Russia accuses the sun of being hot.  The Obama administration calls for hearings on the lack of use of sunscreen.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:46 | 4634074 nmewn
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One hundred fiddy mercs, tying up multiple battalions of Russian troops, is nothing to brag about Pootie ;-)

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:58 | 4634107 new game
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so greystone is where the military personnel go that can not fit back into normal life? the training to kill is permanent?

or just gun ho peoples that gotta be in the action? gun nutsoes? every attraction has an over the top element...

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:05 | 4634126 crazzziecanuck
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Not exactly a great job market for veterans.  Or anyone else.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 23:24 | 4634637 TahoeBilly2012
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"honey I've got to run overseas for a few weeks I will be right back and send me emails of Emmy's ballet.,"

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 02:03 | 4634845 Freddie
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These guys are very disposable.  Remember a few weeks ago where the two ex-Navy Seals were found dead on the SS Albama or Maersk ship they made the movie about the somali pirates?

They both OD at the same time and heroin syringes were found and they were junkies.  Yeah sure.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:14 | 4634153 nmewn
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Some people are mechanics, some are cooks, some are warriors. Greystone hires the latter and there is nothing to say they don't come from every nation on the planet for a price.

Even "Mother Russia" ;-)

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:00 | 4634432 james.connolly
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They're all Navy Seals and other US-MIL SOG's, and they HIRE THEIR OWN kind.

Trouble is you can't join until your retired, and a SOG (SEAL or DELTA ) doesn't retire until 38 years old ....

Most of these guys get fat when they get out,... its all about easy fucking money.

But the majority don't do this shit, the PENSION for a 38 year old SOG is like $5k/month with all COMEX for life,... fucking easy life, ... so why risk it by living in a shit-hole? Why die? Or become crippled if you made it to retirement? (GOLDEN PARACHUTE)

Only fucked up guys without love or family do this shit.

ONLY guys that are mentally sociopath's want to be soldier of fortune fuckheads in their mid-life, ... but the USA is full of them, .. no fucking shortage of assholes.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 05:23 | 4634940 August
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Only fucked up guys without love or family do this shit.

When my son was seriously heading toward a SEAL career, I visited the UDT-SEAL Museum in Florida. 

In a one-on-one converstion with the (well-known, and well-respected) head-honcho SEAL, the man advised me strongly:

"Tell your son not to do it."  Only fucked-up guys without love or family do this shit... almost verbatim.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:21 | 4634174 WonderDawg
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They are mercenaries, plain and simple. Mercenaries have been around as long as there's been war.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:24 | 4634182 nmewn
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True dat.

And I bet the Cossacks would agree ;-)

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:11 | 4634310 The Gooch
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And the Norwegians.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:20 | 4634334 nmewn
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Yes, Joshua French and Tjostolv Moland.

They come from everywhere, for a price, its what they do.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:29 | 4634362 Anusocracy
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hessian_(soldiers)

The Hessians were 18th-century German auxiliaries contracted for military service by the British government, which found it easier to borrow money to pay for their service than to recruit its own soldiers. The British used the Hessians in several conflicts, including in Ireland, but they are most widely associated with combat operations in the American Revolutionary War.

About 30,000 German soldiers fought for the British during the American Revolutionary War. Nearly half were from the Hesse region of Germany; the others came from similar small German states. Several more German units were placed on garrison duty in the British Isles to free up British regulars for service in North America.

American patriots made propaganda use of the fact that the soldiers were non-British, and portrayed them as mercenaries. They also offered them land bounties to desert and join the Americans.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:49 | 4634407 nmewn
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And my "later ancestors" captured many who couldn't speak a word of english (multiple nationalities) in the WBTS, although they wore blue uniforms.

The promise of citizenship was enough for them. Of course the others, mowed down like grass, weren't so lucky. Butcher Grant came by his name honestly ;-)

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 23:00 | 4634593 Spumoni
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Aw c'mon, Nmwen...Useless only wanted to end the war as quickly as possible. He said so hisself!

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 02:23 | 4634860 Freddie
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Oddly enough - one of the most famous battles happened in Trenton NJ the day after Christmas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Trenton

Today, no one in their right mind wouldfight over Trenton.  You would fight to get the hell away from it.  Plus one of the key battles in the founding of this country is in a place where buying a gun is troublesome and the state police dress like the SS.

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=nj+state+police&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=un...

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 13:44 | 4636232 Kobe Beef
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And behind the Elector of Hesse-Cassel (counting the ducats, of course)?

Mayer Amschel Rothschild.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 06:05 | 4634959 beaglebog
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The only "non-mercenary" force is the militia, afaics.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:55 | 4634419 james.connolly
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Me thinks they post 40+ year old fat guys with the stare,

They all earn $200k / year or more ... which makes them all coked up, lazy.... chasing whores and booze more often than fighting ... easy money corrupts the soul

Go watch 'apocalyps now' team and study KURTZ, he understood that the best fighters live on cold-rice and rat's.

Anytime you think that INFINITE FIAT a BUY anything of value your kidding yourself,

The real fighter only has 2 ways out DEATH or WINNING.

These 'mercs' are just guy's feeding at the FSA pig trough, cuz MORONS cut a check for $5 billion USD.

Back in the day the UK was smarter they got GURKKHA's paid them peanuts, best killers on earth.

But I agree these 150 merc's are just advisors, or COACHES, sort  of like the COACH you see at the GYM.

 

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 00:43 | 4634760 TungstenBars
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An old aquaintance ended up being a merc. Was always a psycho hothead. The kind of guy who got off torturing animals/others as a kid psyhco.

 

Noone's heard from the guy in years now. Probably dead, buried in a ditch in some hellhole.

 

I'm sure the US gov is happy. Don't have to pay dead mercs. 

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 01:31 | 4634821 HardAssets
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Its for the money.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:58 | 4634429 New_Meat
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"One hundred fiddy mercs, tying up multiple battalions of Russian troops, is nothing to brag about Pootie ;-)"

and look at the reddiez that u have accumulated lad--good on ya'

amazing what a well aimed rifle shot can do.  Why SLAM has it with good historical authority that three stops in one day can fuck up an entire battalion.  He was in the Pacific and recorded that while the smith-smith-smith smashup was a-goin' on.

just a thing,

- Ned

{and who are these assholes givin' u the reddie?  ass-faces all, totally afraid of comin' out and expressing their skosh' knowledge of what they can't comprehend}

{{yes, all y'all reddie assholes, come on, bring it, ...}}

{{{first one of you assholes who knows who SLAM is, gets the first punch}}}

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:31 | 4634523 nmewn
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"and look at the reddiez that u have accumulated lad--good on ya"

I've developed it into an art form on certain threads...lol.

"amazing what a well aimed rifle shot can do."

All ya gotta do is drop one and they all come runnin, its whatcha call a target rich enviroment now ;-)

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 00:28 | 4634735 El Vaquero
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Some people just have a man-crush on Putin.  I also think that with some of the hatred of the US gooberment on here, there is some "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" psychology going on here.  We've graciously put him in the position where he gets to be the good guy.  So he's playing the part of the good guy.  What would happen if we put him in a position where he had to be the bad guy to look out for his or Russian interests?  I suspect that we'll never know given the clowns that we have running our show, but it is always in the back of my mind that he is former KGB. I'll wait and see with him.

 

He is one formidable motherfucker though, I'll give him that. 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:18 | 4634494 Leaping Lizard
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The Blackwater dudes (Greystone my ass - Erik Prince is behind this) are there to be the match that starts WWIII.  They have no strategic importance.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:32 | 4634528 TheReplacement
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No doubt that when the Russians finally go in they will do it "for the children".  Even then, a lot of people will fail to see Putin for what he really is.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 04:37 | 4634927 Drifter
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I think you're mistaken, US govt is only one claiming they do it "for the children".

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 02:11 | 4634852 Drifter
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Just a tip-off Russia knows about America-supported instigators in Ukraine far beyond 150 I suspect.

First time any govt has stated it publicly that I'm aware of, so yes, it's a big announcement.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 08:32 | 4635116 flapdoodle
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Were Greystone mercenaries the snipers in Kiev who killed demonstrators and Police indiscriminately?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:22 | 4633981 PaperBear
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This from a regime that spent $5 billion overthrowing the previous government of Ukraine.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:58 | 4634271 mendolover
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And one that tells it's used up vets to fuck off.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 05:19 | 4634929 Drifter
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Cry me a river.

Anyone dumb enough to join an imperialist regime-changing nation-destroying resource-looting children-droning petrodollar-preserving terminally-psychopathic stormtrooper force, otherwise known as the US military, deserves what they get.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:23 | 4633985 Son of Captain Nemo
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Go get 'em Erik!...  Just keep telling yourself that 5,000 of you can do it ALL!

Trust me Spetsnaz won't fuck with your guyz!

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:19 | 4634168 Looney
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Spetsnaz won't fuck with you, Erik... Spetsnaz WILL fuck you, Eric...  ;-)

Looney (I had to look't up) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spetsnaz

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:57 | 4634265 mendolover
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The Orthodox priest is a nice touch.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:48 | 4634570 TheReplacement
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Spetsnaz or not, who really believes the Russians are really that tough.  Read about an airborne unit (far better than conscrpts but lower than Spets) getting decimated even though they had air and artillery support.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_for_Height_776.  The Ukrainians ostensibly have armor, air, and artillery.  It certainly isn't a match for the Russians but home field advantage and a long simmering hatred of Russia have to account for something.

The US is extremely corrupt today.  However, our neighbors don't hate us anything like how Russia's neighbors hate Russia.  Yet.

 

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 00:33 | 4634743 El Vaquero
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You should look at the hardships that Russia had to endure during WWII, then stop and think "what drove those motherfuckers?" before you start questioning how tough Russians can be.  I want nothing to do with a war on Russian soil, or even on their front doorstep, even if it stays conventional. 

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 01:01 | 4634792 sushi
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"what drove those motherfuckers?"

Political commissars to their rear armed with sub-machine guns, ready to gun down any soldier showing any form of hesitation over going forward and confronting the enemy.

A leadership quite willing to send companies of men forward as live mine detectors. They cleared the minefield by detonating all the mines underfoot.

There is a reason the Soviet Union suffered losses in excess of 7 million men in the course of defending the motherland.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 01:14 | 4634799 El Vaquero
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They drove back the Germans.  They could have driven those commisars back. 

 

I'm not defending the USSR, but they did have guns because it was a war, which means that they did have choices.

 

And it looks like the downvote troll is out tonight.  I didn't red ya. 

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 01:21 | 4634808 The Deacon
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E V,

they had to drive forward because that is where the rifles and ammunition were.

"FORWARD....you'll find weapons and ammunition lying beside your dead comrades!"

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 01:26 | 4634814 El Vaquero
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And yet they moved on Germany after they had chased them out of the USSR with a vengance.  I would not have wanted to have been an East German when the Red Army moved in.  There was more going on than just commisars and rifles with no ammo.  That had a lot to do with the Soviet body count, but it ain't the whole story. 

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 06:28 | 4634980 Volkodav
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Nyet, only some were armed going into battle, those behind were ordered to pick up rifle of those fell in front...until themeselves fell, and so on.

Study real history.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 06:25 | 4634977 Volkodav
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Da  Sushi is correct to large extent. Soviet communism was ugly murderous. but was never a Russian construct.

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Tue, 04/08/2014 - 09:48 | 4635354 flapdoodle
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Carefully note that during WWII Stalin, cunning as a fox, did not ask the population to defend Soviet Communism but rather to protect the "Motherland" (since most of Ukraine was overrun fairly early, this was clearly an appeal to Russian patriotism...)

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 02:30 | 4634868 silvermail
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Where have you seen such a unit of the U.S. Army , which is ready to execute the order at any cost ?
Where have you seen such a unit of the U.S. Army , which is ready to execute the order at the cost of 50% losses of personnel ?
Where have you seen such a unit of the U.S. Army , which is ready to execute the order at the cost of 90% of the losses of personnel ?
In the Russian military doctrine is no concept of " unacceptable losses " . In the Russian military doctrine has only one concept : "Order of command must be executed at any cost ."
Russian military know how to fight and win without air support , without GPS and without communication.
U.S. Army against the Russian army - it's just a bunch of pathetic gamers who are used to the war on the principle of " impunity shooting unarmed opponent , from a safe distance ."

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 06:16 | 4634971 Volkodav
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Pathetic post...wiki expert...

How is comparison to Spetnaz? or any reality?

Russians, Abkhazians,Ossetians, etc. and other Chechen are only ones brave enough fight the criminal radicals...much less outnumbered better than 20 to 1......they didn't get choice on 776...still kill ratio was at least 6 to 1 in middle of attackers terra.....with only limited light pack of para

Better than a lot of Vietnam disasters you never heard about...

Chechen are bad news....South Ossetia/Georgia conflict 08/08/08.....when Vostok and Zapad Chechen with only old T55 arrived. ......much better armed Georgians and "Advisors" dropped fancy new equipment and ran.... did not slow to stop till Tblisi. Was  tons brand new all kinds us taxpayer provided scattered behind...

 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:25 | 4633991 One And Only
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Looks like Obama barked up the wrong tree this time.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:26 | 4634002 El Hosel
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Tisk tisk

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:27 | 4634004 McMolotov
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Greystone carefully screens and evaluates all candidates to ensure only the highest caliber individuals are selected.

Translation: If you're not a psychopath who enjoys killing for money, don't bother applying at Greystone.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:43 | 4634035 LetThemEatRand
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It is purely coincidental that they wear the same outfits as the guys photographed at the Boston Marathon bombing.  And that John Ashcroft is on the board of directors of Academi, the former parent company of Blackwater.  http://academi.com/pages/about-us/board-of-directors/john-ashcroft

 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:07 | 4634130 McMolotov
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Let the fucking eagle soar, bitchez!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woLQI8X2R6Y

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 00:45 | 4634766 El Vaquero
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I clicked on the link to see if it was what I thought it was, and it was.  That's a lot of wases.  Or whatever the fuck the plural of was is.  Or whatever the definition of is is.  Fuck.

 

But I digress.  I wasn't sure whether to laugh or cry when I first saw that, and that still hasn't changed.  Fucking Ashcroft. 

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 07:46 | 4635059 Husk-Erzulie
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Uber Tool

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:36 | 4634541 Savyindallas
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One of the CIA's top units  -I believe it's just a matter of time before they overtake and surpass the number one unit  -the CIA's venerable and time-tested Al Quada Division.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:51 | 4634578 TheReplacement
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Did you see the pictures of the AQ guys in Mali?  AA gunners sitting on the gun and leg hanging out - white as white can be.  Where from.. who knows except to say he was not from Mali.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:39 | 4634042 erg
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and...our personnel employ best practices while executing people projects efficiently and effectively.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:43 | 4634060 erg
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sorry...the line through people didn't take

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:54 | 4634096 Son of Captain Nemo
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McMolotov

I wouldn't put it past those "150 or so" drugged out and psychotic volunteers asking themselves right about this time while they are doing many a "YB" in said BVDs -How the fuck did I get myself into this one?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:26 | 4634359 yogibear
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Is Greystone like tombstone? These guys love killing and get paid well for it 

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 00:02 | 4634436 Kirk2NCC1701
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Aka "The 150 Expendables".

Are Arnie, Rocky, Van Damme, etc in this group, so we don't have to endure them and their wrinkles on top of wrinkles any more?

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 05:43 | 4634949 Volkodav
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da...Chuckie Norris is only one with good sense to stay in Texas with nice wife.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:27 | 4634007 caustixoid
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150 american mercenaries, and 3 billionaires returned from Israel:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/07/world/europe/business-moguls-in-public...

 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:37 | 4634048 BigJim
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Nice catch!

"But after being bombarded with Russian claims that fascists had seized power, he said, people in the east were heartened to see a move into government by multimillionaires with no interest in extremist turmoil or a neo-Nazi revival, “particularly when they are of Jewish origin.” 

Yes, I'm sure unelected Zionist oligarchs will be as popular in East Ukraine as they are everywhere else. 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:13 | 4634485 RichardParker
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Obama propaganda machine must be getting really desperate when NYT has headline of

"Business Titans Too Rich to Bribe Seek to Ease Fears in East Ukraine"

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:38 | 4634015 pupdog1
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Would these be the same Russians who, as Soviets, rolled tanks into Hungary in 1955 when Hungary wanted to withdraw from the Warsaw Pact, and killed about 30,000 Hungarians for being so uppity?

Back then, Ike--one of the world's greatest statesmen and soldiers--never considered getting us into WWIII over it.

Now look what we've got.

Long backyard bomb shelter kits.

 

 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:40 | 4634050 BigJim
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 Would these be the same Russians who, as Soviets, who rolled tanks into Hungary in 1955 when Hungary wanted to withdraw from the Warsaw Pact, and killed about 30,000 Hungarians for being so uppity?

No, probably not. That was almost 60 years ago... I doubt Russians retire all that much later than anyone else.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:54 | 4634097 W74
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Russian male life expectancy is only 55.  And that's without war.

I'm pro-Russian in all this, but you'd be crazy to claim they don't have internal demographic problems and social issues.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:03 | 4634287 Volkodav
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Blame the banks and Soviet from 1917....was terrible for male...

Soviet is defunct...Now is Russian Federation and new on the rise. Men hold heads higher.

btw...start social issue with old Russian is not good...those left very tough in real...

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:32 | 4634530 Muc Metals
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According to Wikipedia Russian male life expectancv is 62.8 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia#Life_expectancy

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 02:34 | 4634872 Freddie
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The life expectency in Russia is going up too.  It started increasing quite a bit in 2010.  Russian women have about the same life expectency as American women.  The USA is dropping and this is pre-ObamaCare.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 02:40 | 4634877 Skateboarder
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A steady diet of Taco Bell will kill any aerobic life forms.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 00:17 | 4634717 Gaurden
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Thats if you believe that the russians actually controled the Soviet Union.  

 

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 03:36 | 4634896 JR
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And liberal banker support for Lenin, Stalin and the Bolshevik Movement continues to this day, only now its center is America,  

"For over 70 years America's adversary was the Soviet Socialist Empire. Make no mistake, these were our enemies and they were Jewish Soviets. The Central Committee of the Supreme Soviet of 1935 contained 56 men of which 53 were Jews and 3 were atheists married to Jews....

"'American Exceptionalism,' just like Cultural Marxism, PC, Free Trade, the War on Terror, the War on Drugs, the War on Poverty, and Obamacare, is the all-encompassing 'progressive' war being waged against American, Americans, and the middle class that is being systematically decimated... (Nationalist Times, American Exceptionalism)

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:46 | 4634072 Rock On Roger
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Yup, and same as the Russians who died in their millions to push Hitler out of Russia, who are the same type of Russians who threw Napoleon out of Russia the century before.

Russians are getting used to some western empire trying to beat up Mother Russia. They won't put up with this shit much longer.

Putin should capture a couple of those greys, make a public spectacle of them, embarrass the bosses and show the world who the real tyrants are. (which everyone on earth already knows, except for those in the 'world').

 

Stack On

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:12 | 4634313 crazzziecanuck
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Russian forces would have to cross into Ukraine to capture them.  Which means the headline in the West won't be "American Mercenaries Caught Trying to Repress Ukraine" it will be "Russians Invade Ukraine."

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 00:52 | 4634774 El Vaquero
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Or, they could hire some ethnic Russians who happen to be Ukrainian citizens who want to secede to do it. 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 23:50 | 4634204 Volkodav
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Eisenhower was a war criminal. 

"Other Losses" James Bacque   (not the only source for this truth)  also by same Authors:

"Crimes and Mercies-The Fate of German Civilians Under Allied Occupation 1944-1950" (Amazon Best Seller)

otherwise....Soviet was never a Russian construct.

 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:33 | 4634026 Lumberjack
Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:39 | 4634030 falak pema
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5 billion Kagan-dollas and whadya get, another day older on Gazprom debt.

When you own the greenback spigot you feel as rich as gas oligarchs n oily sheikhs.

You wanna rattle n roll in Maidan square! 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:35 | 4634034 Seasmoke
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Dual passport Americans ????

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:27 | 4634192 navy62802
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Probably locals recruited, paid and trained by Greystone. I am willing to bet that these personnel are part of a covert operation that was instrumental in the political unrest in Ukraine.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:37 | 4634037 Son of Captain Nemo
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Oh and if your are in the market for listening to this as pure humor an ex-investment "professional" on who is really to blame for all of this starting in 2008!

Nothing says propoganda lovin like C-SPAN

http://xrepublic.tv/node/8337

The U.S. Government must be getting closer to it's goal of another 9/11 type false flag event given the "60 minutes" HFT Mike Lewis expose, and our continued attempt at another inappropriate deranged psychotic misadventure that we can somehow force Russia into giving up all their gas and oil and preserve the USD status quo by attempting yet another a failed coup with the worst "blowback" to the U.S. intelligence reputation since... well since... Well there in fact is no equal in the trophy case for this one!

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:41 | 4634055 i_call_you_my_base
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This would be hilarious if it wasn't so serious.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:43 | 4634057 monopoly
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Obama, way out of his league. Absolutely no match for Putin. No contest. Obama should just hang out at the ATT&T store and give out free phones. That he is good at.

So sad, A Nation in Decline.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:50 | 4634090 Son of Captain Nemo
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Adding insult to injury through the covers of syndicated TIME magazine around the globe no doubt with the deliberate intent to ever so carefully cultivate the American mass mind fuck!

As long as it's somebody elses backyard -Not ours and we don't know about it!  Right?!!!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/02/1259682/-TIME-Magazine-s-U-S-World-Covers-This-Week-Offer-Stunning-Contrast?detail=facebook#

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:03 | 4634119 knukles
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That shit goes on all the time.  There was another one where the US cover had a headline about it "being OK to be depressed, its' not all that bad" or some such shit, while the offshore one had a story horrifically negative about US offshore involvement or something.

And somebody wondered about Government Propaganda Machines....
Take your SSRIs and like 'em, peasant

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 00:57 | 4634786 El Vaquero
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Of course, they're changing what it means to be depressed.  Rather than a real chemical imbalance that royally fucks people, it's "are you feeling a little down?"  Mental conditions are so fucking over-diagnosed these days that it's disgusting.  It fucks people who have real mental problems, and it fucks people who are told that they have mental problems, but don't.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 06:36 | 4634988 negative rates
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Karma is a bitch now aint it?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:25 | 4634188 Yardfarmer
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+1 extremely elucidating.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:08 | 4634108 socalbeach
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I seriously doubt Obama is calling the shots on the US side. Probably about as much as the US voter in 2008 when we got to pick between Obama and McCain.

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