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Russia Tells Ukrainians: 'Referendum' Or We Can't Protect You As Ukraine Proposes State Of Emegency
The relative calm of the last two weeks as US talking-heads proclaim Ukraine 'fixed', Russia 'under control', and Europe 'recovering' is being obliterated this morning. The storming of various non-Crimean Ukrainian city government buildings suggest round two of the push is beginning and Russia is wasting no time explaining how this will go down. Russian Senator Viktor Ozerov stated that "Russia has no right to [send peacekeepers] unilaterally" to Eastern and Southern Ukraine (unless the UN agrees)... but... "Russia is interested in stability in Ukraine. At the same time, the will of the people must be documented. A referendum is the most democratic way of expressing one's will." In other words, "we can't help you unless you hold a referendum to annex." Stage 2 is beginning... and it seems Ukraine is getting it as they are preparing to issue a state of emergency.
From Russia with no love - we can't help you, our poor Russian Ukrainian friends...
Russian peacekeepers can be sent to a foreign country exclusively within the framework of international law, not at the request of local authorities, Chairman of the Federation Council's Defense and Security Committee Viktor Ozerov told Interfax while commenting on the Donetsk People's Council's possible appeal to Russia to send peacekeepers to this part of Ukraine.
"Our peacekeepers can only act in compliance with international law. We had examples when peacekeepers were sent to South Ossetia and Abkhazia, but that was done within the framework of the Commonwealth of Independent States. Just sending our peacekeepers to Donetsk, or elsewhere at the request of the local authorities would go against the principles of international law," Ozerov said.
"Russia has no right to do this unilaterally. If, however, the UN Security Council passes a resolution on the introduction of peacekeepers, Russia, as its permanent member and a signatory to the Treaty on Cooperation and Security in Europe, will have the right to join a peacekeeping contingent in order to guarantee security in this or that region," Ozerov said.
Unless you hold a referendum...
He said the Federation Council allowed the president to use the military in Ukraine at an emergency meeting in March. "That was connected with the situation in Crimea. However, in this case we were motivated by the Black Sea fleet agreements and the need to enhance the security of our bases. We are satisfied that we did not have to use Russian servicemen during the referendum in Crimea, and that residents of Crimea decided their future on their own," Ozerov said.
Commenting on the situation in Ukraine's eastern regions, where pro-Russian forces want to hold a referendum, Ozerov said that, "it would be counterproductive to incite events from the outside."
"Russia is interested in stability in Ukraine. At the same time, the will of the people must be documented. A referendum is the most democratic way of expressing one's will," Ozerov said.
And local 'Russian' residents are getting the message...
"What is happening in Donetsk, Luhansk and other eastern regions of Ukraine is logical, taking into account the policy being pursued by the Ukrainian leaders, who disregard ordinary citizens' opinions and appoint oligarchs to govern," Ryazansky told Interfax.
As is the Ukraine government,
A law proposing the introduction of a state of emergency in Donetsk, Lugansk and Kharkov regions following the public disorder over the weekend has been submitted to the Rada.
Presidential candidate, Yulia Tymoshenko, has arrived in Donetsk in eastern Ukraine, following large-scale protests there over the weekend.
She labeled the occupation of local administrative buildings in Ukraine a “separatist power grab,” and has called on the government to “make such actions impossible in the future.”
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A group of about 100 masked men with baseball bats attacked the demonstrators, forcing them to flee, with police unable to separate the two sides. The activists then occupied the square, and began chanting “Referendum! Referendum!” – demanding a poll that would allow the region greater autonomy from Kiev.
Crimea 2.0 indeed...
It seems the market's hope for stability are taking a battering also (especially after last week's exuberant call from SocGen to get long - following Goldman) with 2-month maturity bond yields breaking above 30% once again.
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Gold and SIlver monkey hammered down as usual
Next thing you know the Afgans and Iraqies wil demand a referendum on American millitary bases in their countries ...
not to mention Germany! where the US still has 21 bases left!
Classic extortion statement. I can't protect you from being robbed unless you pay me. If you don't pay me, I will rob you then shut you down.
Well, at least Russia uses the facade of Democracy. In the USSA, even the Tea Party blatantly supports non-elected governments.
You have a serious misconception of the Tea Party. Educate your ignorant self. Use another term such as Neo-con. Get smarter or get junked, fool.
ill help. From the older Tea Partiers I hear "Down with Obamacare, its socialism" Followed not to much later, when talking about where to make cuts to the budget "Hands off my medicare and social security" and most never see this blatant contradiction in their views.
Carl, I see the contradiction. I see your point of view. I don't get any MSM media and have been caught unawares that the Tea Party has been demonized and is the new Neocon, etc.
I just get annoyed when Tea Party is used as a synonym for Neo-con and the like. I am a paleoconservative that saw a lot of good in the original Tea Party ideals. Where is has not been co-opted by freeloaders, statists, war-mongers, Zionists and the like, the Tea Party has, or had, much merit IMHO.
Ron Paul is considered by some to be the Godfather of the Tea Party movement. A shame that "Tea Party" has become derogeratory, perhaps nearly an epithet. I suppose that I should consider giving up on my paleoconservative wing of the Tea Party.
There is no contradiction. You seem to forget that we paid for social security and medicare. here's a little example of the reality:
I did some math. If the money that my employers and I paid into SS had been put into an account and just invested in long term U.S treasury bonds it would now total over $575,000. and that is only reinvested at maturity and only contributions thru age 50! At 6% yield (any number of energy or REIT stocks for instance) I could be drawing $34,500 / year at age 59, and still have $575,000 plus in the bank to leave to my heirs. Instead, at 62 SS will be kind enough to pay me $19,572 / year and I have nothing in the bank to show for all those contributions.
so, I don't think I'm out of line wanting MY money back.
Oh, I think I've a fairly good conception. Your problem is like every other political movement in the USSA of the past century. You were so obsessed with growing the ranks and obtaining power, you absorbed any joker willing to make some noise in front of the establishment and every politician willing to pick up the banner. Your cause is now so polluted that one can't distinguish between a Neo-con (the former Republican movement that was going to really change things!) and your sad Tea Party.
Do you have an example of that or are you just talking out your ass?
Yes close all the military bases in Germany. Then work on the 800 in the various 135 other foreign locations.
How many American bases and troops are still in Iraq?
Germany should hold a referendum on joining Russia, just to fuck with the EU.
Korean steel bearing prices are going up though.
:(
That's because the balls in those bearings are now used as ammo.
don't worry Ukranians.... Hitlary and Pussy Riot are coming to free you!:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/04/07/hillary-clinton-poses-with-pussy-riot-members/?hpt=hp_t2
I betcha she can teach them to pee standing up.
"She" does sport a proper tuck.
dumb cunts unite!
Imagine Hitlery in the middle of this -
http://www.henrikaeshna.com/apps/blog/sex-orgy-in-a-museum-what-does
its so obvious...
http://www.silverseek.com/
http://www.kitco.com/charts/livesilver.html
dont know why somebody downed u...
idiots everywhere.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/04/07/the-less-a...
silvermail - thanks for the link
Now its official - - - the vast majority of Americans are complete morons, particularly those on the 'red' and 'blue' teams
As for the poll findings that 45% supported boycotting the G8 summit - - - - do they seriously think most Americans know what the G8 is or what a summit is ?
How do you get Americans to learn geography? Start a war! (in the area of interest).
Doesn't Putin know this is Master's week and the linkster in chief has it planned as an e-week.
Hey, he gave him the NCAA off.
look at putin, hiding behind the law....the nerve....
That R2P ("Responsibility to Protect") doctrine is definitely a two-edged sword! Also, Yulia Tymoshenko, better have a crapton of bodyguards and her life insurance paid up...
And the U.S. sends it's "peacekeepers" without a referendum or desire of the population to be "helped".
Those people just don't know they want freedom. The US has to show them.
They don't even know what freedom is.
Unless they've been to McDonald's, of course.
Stay with Ukraine and endure political instability and outrageous energy costs or embrace Russia and be defended by a superpower and enjoy low energy prices. I sure as shit know which way I would vote! Better Red than Dead.
They welcomed the US peacekeepers with flowers. Doncha remember?
In some places in Iraq, they did. In others, not so much. Sometimes the truth is in between.
Historically speaking, America's policy is called 'retrospective consent.' This what justified the rape and slaughter of the Phillipines 100 odd years ago.
Retrospective consent? Is that like a girl (or guy, to be "fair") who was against it before she (he) was for it?
"It wasn't sexual assault, officer, just wait until retrospective consent kicks in!"
who fucking cares
Putin doesn't have enough cash for groceries
Keep expanding Vlad - another Russian bankruptcy - second one in 30 years - outstanding job!!!
Riiiiight. Is that you, Bill Kristol?
You're worse than ZillionDollarBoner.
That reminds me of a joke.
National security briefing to Obama:
Briefer: I am sad to report that there was an IED explosion in Iraq yesterday. 3 Brazilian peacekeepers died in the attack.
Barry: That is just terrible! How many men are in one Brazilian?
Rising Sun... your avatar (picture of the rising sun) looks remarkably similar to the Uki flag... coinky-dink?? (/sarc)
Actually I think you're right. Have at it Putin. Who fucking cares.?
I don't.
Came here via townhall or fox 'news' ?
(Just read the commentary on those website . . . the sheep are as dumb as ever and saluting whatever is hoisted up the flag pole)
Newsflash: Ukraine grows their own food! (hard to believe, but some folks are self-sufficient in that regard...)
The wheels are coming off the West's clown car.
Bad Do Chen Rolling Bearings ?
Nope, even the best of bearings have to be packed in grease (you know, an oil-based product?)
Putin so sooooo fuckinggggg cool. I love the dude.
Minus the false flags he pulled on his own livestock and stuff like that.
Such as...? Inquiring minds want to know.
"Such as...? Inquiring minds want to know"
...and uninquiring minds are increasingly the norm; a fact has not escaped the OP and TPTB. (ofc it hasn't escaped the latter - they engineered it)
also noticed that the OP has yet to reply to your inquiry. A simple request wasn't it? Don't expect an honest answer to be forthcoming.
Evidence?
Media dumb you down much?
This situation is so critical that it’s long past time for news sources, like Reuters, to be cherry picking comments, not from elected governments such as Germany, Russia, et cetera, but from special interests politicians on both sides. We haven’t yet heard from Putin.
Hungarian election results coming in today show re-election of officials distancing themselves from the European Union and strengthening ties with Russia. And this demonstrates the transformation of Russia and rejection of the old Soviet which had threatened Hungary in 1956 when the West refused to help. And now Eastern Ukrainians are looking not to a Soviet system but to a powerful new moral Russia for their salvation.
Putin's response to the Soviet Bolsheviks who gave away Crimea to Ukraine was, "May God judge them." There is a deep Christian bond among the Russian people. In their hour of need, may these freedom fighters in their "common struggle" not be deserted by the "free world" as were the Hungarians...
The last act of the October 1956 Hungarian uprising against the Soviet slave masters was a plea to other freedom-loving people around the world. A group of freedom-fighter seized control of a radio station and broadcast this desperate message to the world:
People of the world…help us!
People of Europe, whom we once defended against the attacks of the Asiatic barbarians, listen now to the alarm bells ring.
People of the civilized world, in the name of liberty and solidarity, we are asking for you to help.
The light vanishes.
The shadows grow darker hour by hour.
Listen to our cry.
God be with you and us.
The free world never came… Only the Soviets came and shut the station off the air...
Back, back to darker oblivion...
The silent scream…heard by the world and ignored…
B Kristol is looking for his copy of the PNAC ... He never expected this sort of thing and needs guidance.
Saint Yulia calls siezing of government buildings a power grab? Where was she a month ago?
Oh, wait she was in jail for corruption...
It's only an illegal power grab when "they" do it. When the EUSSA does it, it is an open expression of the will and desires of the common man.
Oh yeah, and about that referendum, Vlad, those only count when they go the way of Brussels. When they don't they are clearly invalid and the true will of the people can only be expressed in secret committees and backdoor treaties signed by the Brussels elites.
But wait wait we have important breaking news of a Muppet Gone Bad!!!
Cookie Monster is a NAZI!!! (allegedly)
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/04/07/cookie-monster-nazi_n_5103113...
And isn't even more delightful know a Zionist Jew probably underwrote that stunt just like the ones occupying control of the government in Ukraine.
Nazis and Zionist Jews go together! Don't forget that!!!
remember using the Bert & Hitler pic as an avatar on a couple of sports forums I used to frequent, ended up getting banned from both as the humorless fucks thought I was promoting Nazism.
Russia is getting back its territory but popluar vote wothout 1 shot or 1 drone - imagine that.
how many killed by russian drones??? perhaps those that spout "we are putin lacky boys," should consider that answer. none of the American people's business, but obumer and NWO will make it seem so..ron paul run again please.
Who could have possibly seen this outcome??? Lol.
If a bunch of CIA fueled Nazis (just like in Kosovo and Bosnia except you swap nazi for muzz as if there is a difference) topples an elected government (okay, the guy was a crook who was stuffing his pockets Solyndra Style) that is okay, but if a vote is held first, that vote is somehow illegal and will not be recognized. Makes perfect sense.
Shaming the West into submission...
I use to say less than 2 weeks ago that what the U.S. and EU did with the overthrow of the legitimate Ukraine Government as being merely "blowback" but what we're now witnessing with the crisis and vacuum we created is far worse than that definition.
At the rate this is going I'd say the WHOLE of Ukraine may very well be annexed by the end of next month. The people know they have been duped and are very angry and rightfully so. Don't believe the Neo-Nazis are large enough even with Greystone/Blackwater support to control the discontent they are about to receive in the "will" department! Wouldn't want to be given orders to stir the pot anymore than has already been done. Hey guys at Blackwater/Academi/Xi or whatever the fuck you useless pieces of shit call yourselves these days. Take my advice fellas and get out of Eastern Europe while you still have your skin!
Like I've said before. What a shameful time it is to be a Neocon American (might as well say majority of Americans) and a Zionist Jew!
We're nothing less than a scourge for humanity!
Send over that pillow biter Lindsey Graham, Putin will surely capitulate...
Baseball bats? Either the Ukranians have taken up baseball or these weapons were sent from the US
National sport in the Ukraine, oh..wait, thats the US, mmmmm.
China is watching this template by Putin ... because the Senkakus and later Taiwan are overdue.
But no worries ... Hagel and Horseface are telling those scheming Chinese to behave, so there will be no issue there. They threatened to have a sternly worded Post-It note drafted by TOTUS and applied to a fridge at the Imperial Palace.
about 100 masked men with baseball bats attacked the demonstrators, forcing them to flee, with police unable to separate the two sides. The activists then occupied the square, and began chanting “Referendum! Referendum!” – demanding a poll that would allow the region greater autonomy from Kiev.
and EU USA stile
RT is reporting activists are now proclaiming independence from Kiev, just as Crimea did right after the Kiev coup. Now, this is getting serious, because if Kiev sends in their fascists, then civil war will break out. I have been to Russia enough times to know that these people will fight if you threaten them. Kiev is out of their league here, a pussy IMF Banker Whore Yats. Look at that greasy banker fuck! He stinks of evil, he is covered in it.
I can almost see the "shattered dreams" expression on the faces of "the new (read: illigitimate) Kiev government" when the west pretends they don't know them soon. "What? Who? I'm sorry, I must have forgotten when we met (insert new maiden gov rep name here)"...
the EU is going to get stuck with Kyiv and all its liabilities, yay more "consumers" just what the EU needs NOT.
Not good enough for greedy broke EU bankers, they need real assets to leverage, this bullshit will go on until Putin is assassinated or he lights a nuke.
if Putin is removed the alternative could be much much worse.(I think Putins actually a good guy interested in avoiding war unlike the warmongering vermin in our state dept)
The "EU business model" requires invasion and appropriation of MOAR oil & hard assets every year, the "from who" is irrelevant (libya, Ukraine, Georgia) somewhere other than the EU is the only solution until nuked.
They're broke, they need to steal or change their model, and they aint interested in changing their business model, if anything they're doubling down on Socialist diversity and tax parasite Muslim & African & Asian immigration.
Austerity is a myth, the debt is expading exponentially.
The EU has been "captured" by the left and Islam, the only "out" is total collapse, the EU govt is just a tool of funding invasion of the EU, the Swiss are hip, as well the Venetians. Germany may bolt, or some lucrative parts of Germany.
He who bolts first eats the least shit.
+1000 But what in the hell is a smart guy doing in LA? We can use you in the northern Rockies!
Doofiest looking fucker in this whole thing.
Oh my, President Pillow Biter going to gnaw straight thru the pillow once this reaming is done.
Seeking all offers
Bidding will start with forgiveness of debt and immunity
Ozerov's comments are sound. And it is action within the framework of international law that characterizes both his own comments and the approach of Vladimir Putin. The US, on the other hand totally disregards international law and treaty obligations whenever it finds them inconvenient. Of particular importance is Ozerov's point that it would be illegal for the Russian Federation to intervene in the current situation in eastern Ukraine. There is an obvious difference between his attitude and that of Victoria Nuland who boasted openly of the six billion that the US invested in Ukrainian intervention, along with her famous four-letter words. There is, however, one point on which I would disagree with Ozerov: The normal UN peacekeeping practice is NOT to assign military units from neighboring states, or those who, for historical or economic reasons, would raise questions about their impartiality.
Your point concerning impartial troops is a good one. Likely, the impartial troops would be Africans or East Indians who would loot, rape, and spread hepatitis and other diseases throughout the East Ukraine.
take a look at the countries that are the main contributers for UN troops. the entire force is around 100,000.
The reported Russian comments about Ukraine at this point indicate strongly that Russia is NOT involved in wilfully annexing this or that country or region, as Western govs and MSM claim and as ZH authors have leaned towards at times.
It handled the Crimea situation well in my view and is now setting out what it can/can't do in other Ukraine regions to help people there.
What more can one expect??
I think Putin has acquired a nail gun, so popular with Western bankers, to bang a few more nails into EU coffin.
Following on from this mornings news that Hungary has thumbed its collective nose at the welfare socialists in Europe, Barroso and his gang of crooks are positively seething.
Not many more nails now and their dreams for Europe can be buried for good,(especially the good of the tax paying public), or preferably cremated.
The USA has voted one billion of American's taxes for Ukraine's Kiev government, the one that took power in a NATO funded coup. Meanwhile, this country is falling apart. While Washington and the region glitter with gold and high wages, the rest of America sinks into more and more poverty. The Whore House on the Patomic is one of earth's most prosperous areas. Riches abound!. What is wrong with this picture?
We agree Jack. Question is, when will we wake up and use our elections as referendums on our corrupt governance by red team / blue team whores?
@Jack Burton
I think I heard Samantha Power bragging that they had already "invested " 5 billion dollars in the Ukraine.
5 billion +1 billion AND IT'S GONE!!! War mongering fuckers.
Can I vote? I want to vote against Goldman Sachs.
Russia has no right to do this unilaterally.
Re sending peace keeping troops. Didn't read all the comments but this seems to be a pretty good chess move nobody commented on.
If Russia has no right to bring in peacekeepers without going through the UN Security council, where the US would be able to just veto it, then obviously the same in reverse holds true.
Russia just kicked Nato and the UN out of the Ukraine.
Indeed! Setting this bar for any troop entry, Russia has said only sanctioned UN Peacekeeper approval can allow a troop movement. Now Washington must judge if NATO should invade. If the latest reports from RT are correct, civil war in not far off. Yulia the gas queen of Ukraine has arrived in the East. She called protests illegal acts that will be ahrshly punished. Well, bitch, how did you get out of jail? Oh! Mass armed protest on the streets of Kiev. The braided slut has not won a single vote yet, but she commands state power?
The psychopathic corrupt witch, Tymoshenko, is losing in the polls and maybe believes that she can rejuvenate her campaign by inserting herself into the East Ukrainian situation. She is playing to the Kiev crowd only.
Anyone know if the wicked witch of the west is still in that wheelchair or has she had a miraculous recovery?
Families I know in Kiev and area say big majority want the fraud govt gone and want no part of eu/nato etc.
If there is honorable fair election votes the Kiev usurpers know they would be gone...
They know outside interferences and Orange criminals made economy fail and trouble with Russia.
These know Russia is better....Because Russia has leadership.
Anyone listen to US/West and media can never get understanding in real...
"she . . . called on the government to make such acts impossible in the future."
No doubt by nuking all the Russians.
Like your take on Ukraine probably cause I also traveled
Russia extensively. Russia and Ukraine have historically been intertwined and connot be separated by a Western amateur orchestrated coup. Whenever the Motherland has been invaded Russians proved to be fierce fighters too the death, as Nazi's learned . If war breaks out in Ukraine, it will be bloody and not the kind of foolishness you see in the Israeli/Palastine skirmish.
Incidentally, is that a photo of you or is it Jacquiline ?
@Loony Great point!
Three billionaires return from Israel to run eastern Ukraine:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/07/world/europe/business-moguls-in-public...
Unfucking believeable! Amazing how this gang can control the whole world from their hide out. Wonder how this goes down with the EuroMaidan dupes and fools!
Those three oligarchs they’ve put in charge of eastern Ukraine remind me of Lloyd Blankfein when he says he’s doing God’s work; interesting how God’s work tends to be located in a highly industrial part of Ukraine where these three Jewish oligarchs can line their own pockets.
It’s pathetic to think that the people of eastern Ukraine would more welcome these people because "rich people don’t take bribes." Since when have rich people not accepted bribes; that’s why they’re rich. A TOTALLY biased! story, of course, coming from the New York Times.
If there’s another side to the story of these oligarchs in eastern Ukraine the people won’t hear it because the Russian version is sealed out, off the air – the same as major media reporting in the U.S. on the Ukraine crisis is completely in the tank for the banker-version.
In response to RT’s breaking story today that the “US has reportedly started supplying Syrian rebels with anti-tank weapons,” I fully agree with…
tommy27 07.04.2014 19:02
“The US government has completely lost my respect, and I am a US citizen. You can't believe or trust anything, and there is a complete lack of wisdom which is truth in the highest sense. Iran’s Fars News agency also reported on Monday that their sources said the US has supplied the anti-tank missiles to the militants fighting against Assad. White House press secretary Jay Carney said, ‘We are going to continue to press in every way we can to assist the Syrian people.’ This of course means the rebel terrorists.”
http://rt.com/usa/us-syria-moderate-opposition-weapons-921/
I am so glad McDonald's was able to pull out of the Crimea before all that discord began. They were wise to remain in the stable US dominated Ukraine...oh, wait.
Perhaps Ukrainians should be subjected to an international version of the Coca-Cola Super Bowl ad commercial featuring, instead of "America the Beautiful" being sung in English, Arabic, Spanish, and other languages, the national anthem of Ukraine - "Shche Ne Vmerla Ukrainy" (Ukraine Has Not Yet Perished) in diverse languages – all eating McDonald’s freedom fries.
Can’t wait for Saatchi and Saatchi’s New World Order International Anthem featuring the chained peoples of the world singing in unity and governed by an all inclusive multicultural synthesis of the various forms of government in the world, lead by Commie and European Commission Puppet President Jose Manuel Barroso.
This may suffice until then...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrRdoY2kzbg
Saatchi and Saatchi eat your heart out... a lost opportunity (it could have billed Barosso $5M). THANKS!! Hobo. Absolutely priceless.
Glad you like it- the "Making of" vid is well worth checking out as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT7OLEwbcUo
Well, I don't think we can get a referendum going here in the USSA but how about a petition at WhiteHouse.gov.
"Resolved: the full and complete dissolution of the US Federal Government should be put to a national referendum, and individual states should have the right to permanently seceed from the United States and form political and economic alliances with partners of their own choosing by means of a referendum of their citizens, with a simple majority prevailing in every case."
I would do it but for some reason I must be on the WH shit list because the past several petitions I've tried to launch have 'disappeared'. I just can't figure out what's wrong.
I was unable to sign the "Alaska Join Russia" petition from my regular e-mail address! Never got a reply from all my emails concerning the situation. I was able to sign from my rarely used gmail address, after registering, with only initials for a name. Something really stinks with that rigged website.
Play the game play the game play the game of Lurv!
Hi Vic and Blood - my guess is that they started the petition website back in the days of rainbows and unicorns and realized pretty quickly that it could become a rallying point for serious opposition to their programs for the tyrannization of America, but they also realized that they couldn't just yank it - so they probably hired the same people who brought us HealthCare.gov to 'adjust' the coding for the petition site just a wee bit.
Good workaround with Gmail and initials by the way. Maybe I'll try filing this petition by passing it through TOR (ya hear that NSA?)
<<<Yes
<<<No
'A referendum is the most democratic way of expressing one's will."
President Barack Obama warned Ukraine’s military against intervening to halt anti-government protests as the U.S. and European Union moved toward imposing sanctions on Ukrainian officials.
“We hold the Ukrainian government primarily responsible in making sure it is dealing with peaceful protesters in an appropriate way,” Obama told reporters before a meeting with Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto at a North American leaders summit in Toluca, Mexico. “That includes making sure the Ukrainian military does not step in to resolve issues that could be resolved by civilians.”
The U.S. and EU are weighing freezing the assets of Ukraine’s most powerful officials and denying them travel visas after a crackdown on pro-democracy demonstrators in Kiev left at least 25 dead and stirred fears of a civil war.
Obama’s warning came as Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych granted sweeping powers to the army and police and before he declared a temporary truce with opposition leaders. The Russian-backed leader’s security service said earlier in the day that it’s undertaking a nationwide operation to restore public order, giving the military authority to search, detain and even fire on Ukrainians.
Just hope Obama will also protect peoples from Eastern and Southern Ukraine.
Window dressing. He's the one who approved the shipment of baseball bats.
Just too funny, the US is responsible for the over throw of the democratic Ukrainian government in the first place, now they are trying to sit around with halos on their heads when the obvious civilian disorder starts as a result.
Gee, the Ukrainians are not lining up to join the West in its evil machinations. What a surprise.
They will, the IMF has its teeth into them now.
Please Putin save us here in Ireland from the Eussr, we have a Russian minority we really do and they're being oppresed.
please save us from the homosexual rights people, the feminaziz, political correctness,
In the name of God SAVE US
So I guess a referendum on Ukraine joining NATO would be OK too ...