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Welcome To Terminus

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Submitted by Jim Quinn of The Burning Platform blog,

“Life improves slowly and goes wrong fast, and only catastrophe is clearly visible.”

Edward Teller

I was a late arrival to the Walking Dead television program. I don’t watch much of the mindless drivel passing for entertainment on the 600 worthless channels available 24/7 on cable TV. I assumed it was another superficial zombie horror show on par with the teenage vampire crap polluting the airwaves. Last year a friend told me I had to watch the show. I was hooked immediately and after some marathon watching of seasons one and two, I understood the various storylines and back stories. What the show doesn’t openly reveal is the deeper meanings, symbolism, and lessons we can learn from viewing human beings trying to survive in a post-apocalyptic world. In my opinion, the horror and gore is secondary to the human responses to horrific circumstances and the consequences of individual and group decisions to their survival.

As the end of season four approached, the disbursed characters were descending upon a place called Terminus. They were drawn by the intriguing and hopeful signs posted at various railroad junctions promising sanctuary, community and survival. Of course the name Terminus does not sound very inviting or hopeful. There are multiple possible meanings regarding Terminus. The Roman god Terminus protected boundary markers and sacrifices were performed to sanctify each boundary stone. The bones, ashes, and blood of a sacrificial victim, along with crops, honeycombs, and wine, were placed into a hole at a point where estates converged, and the stone was driven in on top. Maintaining boundaries and sacrifice are major themes throughout the series.

The show is set in the metropolitan Atlanta area of Georgia and the surrounding countryside. It just so happens that during the 1830s Terminus was the name of a settlement at the end of the Western and Atlantic railroad line. That settlement is now Atlanta. Terminus is also the title of the final poem ever composed by Ralph Waldo Emerson. The poem focuses on a conversation between the author and the god Terminus, discussing the author’s forthcoming death. The message of the poem is to resist fear and prepare for death. The destination is worth the journey.   

“As the bird trims her to the gale,

I trim myself to the storm of time,

I man the rudder, reef the sail,

Obey the voice at eve obeyed at prime:

“Lowly faithful, banish fear,

Right onward drive unharmed;

The port, well worth the cruise, is near,

And every wave is charmed.”

We are only given a short time on this earth and the end of the line will be the same for everyone. What matters is how we conduct ourselves during our own journey towards our personal Terminus. Have we served as a virtuous example for our children, sacrificed for others, and benefited humanity or have we displayed greed, avarice and selfishness during our trek through life? As we approach our own meeting with destiny, the actions and morality of individuals will matter. I don’t know the motivations of the writers creating the themes for the Walking Dead, but the show connects with me on a number of levels. I look around and see hordes of zombies everywhere.

Zombification of America

“The real hopeless victims of mental illness are to be found among those who appear to be most normal. Many of them are normal because they are so well adjusted to our mode of existence, because their human voice has been silenced so early in their lives that they do not even struggle or suffer or develop symptoms as the neurotic does. They are normal not in what may be called the absolute sense of the word; they are normal only in relation to a profoundly abnormal society. Their perfect adjustment to that abnormal society is a measure of their mental sickness. These millions of abnormally normal people, living without fuss in a society to which, if they were fully human beings, they ought not to be adjusted.” – Aldous Huxley – Brave New World Revisited

The vast majority of the population in the post-apocalyptic world of the Walking Dead is mindless zombies driven by only their need to feed upon human flesh. They are infected with a disease that disables the cognitive portion of their brains and leaves them as slobbering predatory zombies seeking to satisfy their vile needs. They are referred to as “walkers” or “biters” as they aimlessly roam the countryside seeking human flesh. Everyone bitten or killed by a zombie is infected and turned into a zombie. The only way to stop them is by destroying their brain. The relentless violence and gore is not for the squeamish, but is probably a realistic portrayal of the brutishness and harsh conditions that will overwhelm this country once the electrical grid goes down, fuel becomes scarce and the global supply chain fails. Our just in time society is about one week from chaos, lawlessness, starvation and death on a grand scale.

As I watch the hordes of hideous brain dead zombies shuffling across the apocalyptic landscape seeking to satiate their basest cravings I can’t help but see the parallels with the millions of mindless tattooed obese slobs waddling across mall parking lots past vacant store fronts staring zombielike at their iGadgets as they seek to satisfy their basest desires at Macy’s and Chipotle. A virus has overspread our country causing a vast swath of the population to gratuitously assuage their every want without thinking of the consequences. The sickness is caused by being imprisoned for twelve years in government run public schools, watching thousands of hours of propaganda emitted by the corporate media, viewing hundreds of brain cell destroying reality TV shows, reading and sending thousands of texts and tweets, and being overwhelmed by the delusional belief spending more than they make, saving nothing, and piling up mountains of debt is the path to success in our contaminated society.

In the show there is no clear explanation as to why the majority of the population have been infected and turned into zombies, while a tiny minority is unaffected and able to think critically and act rationally. It is revealed that all living people are infected with the zombie virus, but it remains dormant in a minority of the survivors. Death by any means triggers the virus and turns the corpse into a mindless flesh eating zombie. There are 318 million Americans and a majority of them fall into the category of zombies in my estimation. Every American has the zombie virus within them. It has been incubated by corrupt vote seeking politicians, control hungry government sociopaths, mind numbingly worthless public education, and the relentless dumbing down through corporate media propaganda and vacuous reality TV entertainment. Once cogent thinking aware citizens have been zombiefied into mindless impulsive consumers.

How can you not see the parallels between American society and the zombies in the Walking Dead? Walk down any city street in America and you see hordes shuffling along staring with blank faces and glazed over eyes at their iGadgets. Black Friday is identical to flinging a freshly slaughtered hog in front of the flesh eating zombies. Americans flock to malls across our apocalyptic suburban sprawl landscape and proceed to stampede, gouge, and punch their way to an fantastic bargain on a Chinese slave labor produced microwave they must have to cook their toxic frankenfood created by one of our corporate food conglomerates. The Black Friday crowds actually make the zombies from the Walking Dead seem well behaved. While the American zombies are shambling through superficial lives of pleasure seeking, mass consumption, and a delusional faith in debt based wealth, there is still a minority of rational thinking people who can control their impulses and resist the disease devouring our culture.

 

“Our economy is based on spending billions to persuade people that happiness is buying things, and then insisting that the only way to have a viable economy is to make things for people to buy so they’ll have jobs and get enough money to buy things.” ? Philip Slater                  

Collapse Will Be Sudden

“That’s the thing about the collapse of civilization. It never happens according to plan – there’s no slavering horde of zombies. No actinic flash of thermonuclear war. No Earth-shuddering asteroid. The end comes in unforeseen ways; the stock market collapses, and then the banks, and then there is no food in the supermarkets, or the communications system goes down completely and inevitably, and previously amiable co-workers find themselves wrestling over the last remaining cookie that someone brought in before all the madness began.” ? Mark A. Rayner – The Fridgularity

What you note after watching a few episodes of the Walking Dead is that collapse happened suddenly. Cities, towns, houses and highways remained relatively intact. The decay and deterioration caused by neglect and abandonment are the only visible signs that modern civilization has ceased. The show highlights the life-threatening difficulty of enduring on a day to day basis without the certainty of shelter, food, water, and fuel. The average asleep American isn’t prepared to last one week without the basics of modern life. They haven’t stocked any food, water or fuel in case of an emergency. Their normalcy bias keeps them from even considering the high likelihood of even a natural disaster caused by a hurricane, snowstorm, or earthquake. Recent examples of most people’s complete helplessness were the snow and ice storms that struck this past winter and hurricanes Sandy and Katrina. Without power and access to food and water, modern society breaks down quickly, with chaos, looting and anarchy only days away.

It is unlikely that collapse of civilization as we know it will happen due to some extreme event such as nuclear war, super volcano, or asteroid. When our central banker masters of the universe trigger the next financial system collapse, with no monetary bullets of debasement left in their pop gun, the resulting chaos when ATMs stop spitting out $20 bills and EBT cards for 47 million people stop functioning at Wally World will be epic. We got a glimpse into the future this past October when the EBT system went down in several states for a few hours on a Saturday afternoon. Zombies began to ransack Wal-Mart stores attempting to steal as much as they could get away with. Chaos, anger and criminal behavior was virtually instantaneous. A vast swath of EBT dependent zombies live in our numerous urban ghettos and when the EBT system goes down permanently violence will quickly erupt. Police will be vastly out-numbered, hungry mobs will become armed gangs of violent looters burning down their ghettos, ransacking and plundering businesses, stores and homes, and stealing everything that isn’t nailed down. Visualize the L.A. riots after the Rodney King verdict in every urban area in the country.

The fragility of our debt financed oil dependent just in time global supply chain system is beyond the comprehension of the average zombie American. They are too distracted by mass consuming the products dependent on that very same fragile scheme. They are clueless zombie-like dupes who believe $20 bills magically appear in ATMs, Funyuns and Cheetos miraculously materialize on Wal-Mart shelves, gasoline endlessly bubbles up from the ground into the hose they stick in their $40,000 monster SUVs “bought” with a 0% seven year loan from Ally Financial, and that enchanted plastic card with a magnetic strip empowers them to fulfill every craving like a zombie feeding on a dead carcass.

There is a worldwide currency and petroleum war being waged today as too much fiat currency is chasing a dwindling amount of cheap petroleum supplies. The developed world has experienced a century of relative illusory prosperity as cheap easy to access fuel and cheap easy to print fiat currency have led zombies to believe progress and prosperity are their god given right. The most highly educated zombies will be the most shocked when they realize the reality they believed was all an illusion. The Starbucks “Triple, Venti, Half Sweet, Non-Fat, Caramel Macchiato” crowd who isolate themselves in their 100% financed 5,000 square foot luxury cookie cutter brick McMansions amidst 200 other identical McMansions occupied by reclusive strangers in enclaves pretentiously named The Preserve at Meadow Lakes, and driving multiple leased BMWs, are about as prepared for a collapse of modern society as a helpless child. The suburban wasteland of strip malls, office parks, and fast food joints is completely dependent upon an endless supply of cheap oil and cheap credit.

The cracks in this delusionary foundation are visible for all to see as Space Available signs outnumber actual businesses, pothole dotted highways deteriorate, sewer lines crack, and houses in disrepair outnumber those being kept up. It takes money to keep a home from deteriorating and it happens to be in short supply for 90% of the population. Despite the non-stop money printing operation at the Fed and the mainstream media fantasy stories of shale oil energy independence, the suburban dream is turning into a nightmare. When the inevitable financial implosion strikes in the next few years, the illusion of progress will come to an end. The inner cities will explode in violence and will burn. The police will be helpless and scared. There will be death on a large scale.

Suburbia will turn into a lawless landscape where neighbors turn on each other, as they have failed to create real communities. The isolation and seclusion which have marked suburban existence for the last thirty years will contribute to the creation of criminal gangs looting and pillaging stores, businesses and unprotected homes. After the collapse the only people likely to survive relatively unscathed are rural folk. Farmers, ranchers and those capable of living off the land have the abilities to endure a breakdown in our modern society. These people are prepared, know how to use firearms and create communities of self-sufficiency. No one will thrive in the world coming our way, but those not dependent upon or tied to our modern societal paradigm have a better chance to survive.      

“If people feel lost and alone and helpless and broken and hopeless today, what will it be like if the world really begins to come apart at the hinges?” ? Brandon Andress – And Then the End Will Come!

Individualism vs Community

“The values to which people cling most stubbornly under inappropriate conditions are those values that were previously the source of their greatest triumphs.” ? Jared Diamond – Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed

Our society has always glorified rugged individualism. We celebrate individual accomplishments and make heroes of those who have gone it alone and triumphed either in business, politics, sports, or the arts. Overcoming tremendous obstacles and going it alone in the face of adversity has been the narrative Americans admire and seek to emulate. Even the reality TV shows about preppers focus on individuals who plan on going it alone when civilization enters collapse mode. These rugged loners take pride in individualism, build bunkers, amass small arsenals and stockpile food and supplies. They will likely survive the initial onslaught of collapse and first wave of violence. But how long can an individual expect to survive alone in a Walking Dead environment? The traits which were appropriate and rewarded in modern society will be inappropriate and fatal in a post-modern society. A lesson from the show is clearly that a community of like-minded individuals working together has a better chance at long-term survival than a loner. Just make sure you join the right community.

With hordes of flesh eating automatons roaming the countryside it was essential for the living to form communities in order to fend off the zombies, protect each other, provide shelter, and forage for food. An individual alone had no chance at survival as falling asleep would ultimately prove fatal if a zombie stumbled upon your camp. The group led by Sheriff Rick Grimes eventually creates a community within the gates of an abandoned prison. The irony of seeing mindless throngs of soulless killers attempting to breakdown the fences to get “into” the prison is not lost on the audience. At first, the occupants of the prison would leave on foraging/pillaging missions to nearby cities and towns attempting to find food, medical supplies, gasoline and any other essential necessities of life. Eventually Hershel, the wise old man of the community, convinced Rick that cultivating the soil, sowing seeds and growing their own food was the only chance for their community to thrive over the long haul. Working with your hands is refreshing to the soul. Jesus’ Parable of the Sower immediately comes to mind.

Hearken; Behold, there went out a sower to sow: And it came to pass, as he sowed, some fell by the way side, and the birds of the air came and devoured it up. And some fell on stony ground, where it had not much earth; and immediately it sprang up, because it had no depth of earth: But when the sun was up, it was scorched; and because it had no root, it withered away. And some fell among thorns, the thorns grew up, and choked it, and it yielded no fruit. And other fell on good ground, did yield fruit that sprang up and increased; and brought forth, some thirty, and some sixty, some an hundred. He said unto them, He that has ears to hear, let him hear. Mark 4:3-9

Some communities are evil at their core and will commit malevolent atrocities. Some communities will appear ethical, but when hardship strikes they will fall back to their wicked ways. Communities of those addicted to riches and wealth will ignore the pleas of the downtrodden and wail and gnash their teeth when their worldly wealth evaporates.  A fruitful community that chooses decent honorable leaders, adopts a moral code, treats all members with respect, encourages hard work and accountability, and plans for the future, will reap the benefits of sustainability and stability. Cultivating a good community is difficult, requiring sacrifice, compromise, hard work, difficult choices, and depends upon the goodwill of all members. Rick tried to become a farmer, but Carol saw the future clearly telling him, “you can be a farmer, you can’t just be a farmer”. A peaceful happy ending was not to be.

The community of Woodbury, led by a despicably evil man referred to as the governor, gave outward appearances of stability and health. But it was ruled through fear, intimidation, vindictiveness and evil. Leaders like the governor arise during desperate times when the weak seek someone who promises to save them and keep them safe. Leaders like the governor are far more savage, ruthless and dangerous than the flesh eating zombie hordes because they kill with malicious intent, fully knowledgeable of the consequences of their actions. Eventually good communities led by good people must stand up and fight bad communities led by evil men, no matter the consequences. Under dire circumstances and an uncertain future we will need to decide what kind of community we will be. What kind of people we will be. Will we fight for a better future for our children? Can we retain our humanity or will we become no better than the walking dead?   
 

Brutal: Hershel awaits his fate at the hands of The Governor on last night's The Walking Dead

“What fascinates me is not so much humanity’s engulfment in darkness, but what kind of culture we will construct from the rubble of this one.” ? Carolyn Baker – Collapsing Consciously: Transformative Truths for Turbulent Times

Who Are the Real Walking Dead?

The central question permeating the Walking Dead is whether the living can maintain their humanity amidst so much horror, brutality, death, and desolation. Can the living continue to show compassion, kindness, mercy and love in a world torn apart by disarray, violence, viciousness and despair?  Throughout the series those who haven’t “turned” still have the capacity to empathize, comfort one another, offer succor, and show mercy and kindness. But after enduring unending horrors, cruelty, death and sorrow, it appears some of the characters are “turning” into the very monsters pursuing them.

Every human being has their breaking point. The main characters must commit increasingly heinous acts in order to survive. The walkers have no choice. Their humanity was stripped from them by the virus. The living have a choice. The mental anguish pushes some (Lizzy) over the edge into insanity. Others (Michonne and Carl) are torn by guilt that they have become monsters. Carol justifies her ruthlessness as the only choice for survival – just like the walkers. The seismic shift occurs when Rick, seeing his son being sexually assaulted, goes full zombie and bites the jugular of his captor and relentlessly stabs his son’s attacker. Daryl kills one of the bad guys by crushing his skull with his boot. Many of the characters have made a choice to shed their humanity in order to protect their family and friends. As the series completes its fourth season we are left with a question. Are the zombies really the “walking dead” or are the living really the “walking dead”?   

    

Life is complicated and those seeking simplicity and consistency will be terribly disappointed. The future is not going to be bright for our empire of debt and delusions. Times that will try men’s souls are on the horizon. The choices we make as individuals and communities will matter. Every human being has the capacity for good or evil. We will be alone in deciding whether we gravitate toward the dark side of our character or whether we make a stand for all that is noble and decent. Retaining our humanity during the trials and tribulations that await us will be crucial to creating a community that is sustainable and a future worth living and fighting for. It is clear that Terminus is not a true sanctuary for all. It permeates evil. As all of the “good” people are herded into a single boxcar I couldn’t help but see the parallels of the Nazis herding the Jews into boxcars for their final destination. Passive submission to an evil authority never ends well.

As the door is slammed shut and the protagonists are reunited, Rick declares “they’re gonna feel pretty stupid when they find out.” Abraham then asks “find out what?” Rick’s “they’re screwing with the wrong people” response confirms his transformation from an ambivalent reluctant leader into a powerful figure who will do anything necessary to protect his family, friends and community. This Fourth Turning has yet to reach its bloody, violent, chaotic zenith. The popularity of shows like the Walking Dead is a sign of the darkening mood change in this country. With our fragile fraudulent finance driven eco-system teetering on the edge, the threat of collapse is ever present. Within one week of a financial system collapse we would enter a Walking Dead like scenario. Each American who hasn’t already been infected with the zombie virus needs to prepare now and decide what kind of person they will become as the collapse engulfs our society. We all exit this world as we entered it – alone. But we have the wherewithal to positively impact the rebuilding of our culture from the rubble of this one. Are you ready to meet the deadly trials ahead? The choices we make over the next decade will determine if this is the end of the line for our civilization or a new beginning..       

“We live together, we act on, and react to, one another; but always and in all circumstances we are by ourselves. The martyrs go hand in hand into the arena; they are crucified alone. By its very nature every embodied spirit is doomed to suffer and enjoy in solitude. Sensations, feelings, insights, fancies—all these are private and, except through symbols and at second hand, incommunicable. We can pool information about experiences, but never the experiences themselves. From family to nation, every human group is a society of island universes.” ? Aldous Huxley – Doors of Perception

 

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Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:13 | 4633553 Squid Viscous
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almost tax time:

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/528055

amazing how the plane won't hit the ground, just like on 9-11

 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:38 | 4633630 max2205
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Quite the rant...burrrp

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:07 | 4633730 Say What Again
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How many tweats did it take him to publish that tome

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:29 | 4633812 SafelyGraze
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"A fruitful community that chooses decent honorable leaders, adopts a moral code, treats all members with respect, encourages hard work and accountability, and plans for the future, will reap the benefits of sustainability and stability."

so you are saying that such a thing has been tried before

 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:11 | 4634142 Terminus C
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Man, I love it when ZH puts out a welcoming article.

I feel so... welcome.

As for the story, nothing in it that we haven't been discussing here for years.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:30 | 4633822 stocktivity
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Geez...turn off the TV. Good Lord, it's a tv show and it's affecting your brain.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:57 | 4634266 DavidPierre
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People like Quinn and their passive submission to evil authority never ends well.

TURN OFF! that mindless Hollywood TV zombie drivel Smokey. Direct your limited attention span to something even more horrifying… yet TRUE.  You are a very late arrival to the 9/11Truth program. Set your sights higher… spend your energy revealing real enemies … write about the real Walking Dead who still inhabit the secret world of Nazi power.

 

9/11 Conspiracy Solved: Names, Connections, & Details Exposed!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=n_fp5kaVYhk 

 

The geo/political/financial illiteracy of the self-deluded Smokey(Jim)Quinn, and the willful ignorance of the supposedly highly educated bloviating classes, has never been more evident than when examining the concept of the official CIA 9/11 narrative and their aiding and abetting in treason and murder.

Once again you … FAIL!!!

The Litmus Test

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21pPpYw_axQ

When will Quinn address the Fourteen Year Old War and Terror which was declared against the people of the world on September 11, 2001.

Enough of the fancy bar charts and meaningless graphs and phony pop TV culture already Quinn.  Get down to the real nitty-gritty and 9/11Truth or… STFU!

……………………………………..

An Eye Opener  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do6o57N_SVA#t=60
Tue, 04/08/2014 - 18:39 | 4637264 Gringo Viejo
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"How 'bout dose Mets?"

........Zombie 911

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:21 | 4633569 mademesmile
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The revolution starts when the Pepsi® and Doritos® run out.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:04 | 4633714 Squid-puppets a...
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i hope the entropy will be a swift and internal paralysis: Otherwise, left to degenerate slowly, the prospect of nuclear war seems more likely

mankind's only hope is that the nukes lie rusting in their bunkers while civilization regroups

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:46 | 4633869 BigJim
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Nuclear power plants (and their spent fuel pools) don't like to be left alone too long.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:54 | 4634375 BuddyEffed
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If that scenario plays out, it may be that only fast breeding animals that can gestate within the first few months or years will survive the genetic mutations and cancers and be viable and self sustaining.   In some 10s of thousands of years, after the stuff sediments down into the land soils and seas and half lifes decrease the amount of materials, then maybe longer term gestations can evolve again.   And in a few million years, maybe the next batch of fossil fuels will be cooked enough to exploit again by whatever is around at the time.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:19 | 4634167 Professor Fate
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Not Pepsi...not Doritos.   Toilet paper...toilet paper is the catalyst.  Shit...look at Venezuela.  The inability to cleanly wipe one's ass is the catalyst for revolution.

Fate the Magnificent
"Push the Button, Max"

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:11 | 4634307 fzrkid
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can always use dollar bills

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:19 | 4633571 WageSlave
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Zombieland Rule #1 - Cardio

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:47 | 4633656 Dr. Bonzo
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Rule #2 - Double Tap

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:20 | 4633574 Hongcha
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New S&P highs next week.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:31 | 4633605 booboo
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Yea, what ever. Algo predators flipping a dead rat in the air because they are bored and want to pretend that this market has some life in it. Who gives a fuck, if you ain't a big swinging dick you lose anyway, like the rat race, even if you win your still a fucking rat.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:34 | 4633617 fonzannoon
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I gave him a greenie. Whether he is right or wrong matters not. It was the perfect comment for this article.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:24 | 4633590 Intelligence_In...
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Gas prices going up should keep the zombies in their houses that are a 20 minute commute to anything. 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:26 | 4633594 Sinnedi
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Get rid of the esoteric mystery Schools and arts in secrecy...have every human these sacred arts.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mA1e9k1q_1c

You give the common man a chance at his shot of money with doing this. 

 

 

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mA1e9k1q_1c

Former world banker

 

You also give The common man enlightenment

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:28 | 4633596 drendebe10
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Boy, that was a bit of a downer... that being said, really sounds like obamerica to me though....

 

Dr. Ben Carson for President 2016

www.runbenrun.org

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:44 | 4634066 Pareto
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And James Grant/Ron Paul for FED chair.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:29 | 4633597 John Law Lives
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"In my opinion, the horror and gore is secondary to the human responses to horrific circumstances and the consequences of individual and group decisions to their survival."

Agreed.  The show provides interesting insight re. how humans might behave when the SHTF on a grand scale.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:29 | 4633598 db51
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Awesome article

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:31 | 4633599 db51
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When SHTF...I'm making my way to The Hamptons.  I'd love to see that great unwind before I die.

 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:09 | 4634135 RafterManFMJ
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Do bring a .308 semi with proper optics.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 00:41 | 4634754 Freddie
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Get SOME!

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 01:27 | 4634816 dow jones 20000
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Seven. Six. Two. Millimeter.

Full. Metal. Jacket.

 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:30 | 4633602 Dugald
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Only in America.....! 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:31 | 4633604 goBackToSleep
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You have to watch the show as a transparency that has overlain the appocalypse. The zombies are the uninformed masses. Prepare accordingly.  It's very literal in some instances. When people get truly hungry (zombies), bad things happen.

fixed it for ya, now the show will be a bit more entertaining.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:00 | 4633699 Oldwood
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The zombies have no interest in the fellow zombie's dying flesh. They want living, productive tissue. Once bitten, the productive also crave the productive flesh rather than productivity itself. This is the world today. As each of us who tries to pursue a productive path meets with resistance we are eventually "bitten" and infected with the zombie virus. The futility of productive pursuits becomes apparent, and we too fall in line with the rest of the flesh eaters. The ranks of the infected will continue to grow until there are no productive "living" souls left to consume. We are experiencing a contagion. A virus that is passed socially through the media.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:37 | 4634212 acetinker
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Oldwood, I've learned enough about you from your own words that you were somewhere, somehow inoculated against the 'zombie virus'.  I dunno how it happened- but it did.  You have experienced something profound and don't yet realize that you can never become a zombie because of it.

When I say profound, I'm not speaking of a Moses/burning bush thing.  I'm speaking of things that most folks never experience like;

Having your foxhole buddy's brains blown out.

Losing a parent, sibling, spouse or child to drug abuse/suicide.

Having a business partner betray your trust.

Maybe you were just bullied in school.  I dunno, and it's none of my business anyway.  But trust me on this:  You were inoculated.  This, it turns out, is a good thing.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:30 | 4634367 Oldwood
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Parents from the Great Depression and WWII. A nice liberal education which convinced me my parents were fools and that the socialist paradise (of course we didn't call it that in college) of the social safety net would save the world. I found old papers I had written back then where I actually called for such a net that would basically provide money, or loans from the government to allow people to take more chances. As a liberal minded coward who was afraid to do much of anything, I felt sure if I just had the security of knowing I couldn't fall, I would be the greatest high wire act the world had ever seen. Well luckily, most of those idealistic dreams never came to pass. Instead I found myself working in a number of jobs in automotive and construction circles because that is where the money was and it gave me plenty of time for the self medication rampant in a college town. Since then, after many years of self employment, I have made discoveries....about the world and myself. I have watched so many around me with so much potential, waste it, while others with so little that busted their asses to have a decent life. Not rich...decent. I have been successful, not in money, but in survival for all these years. I still have only five employees after over thirty years and they are my family, as dysfunctional as it is. We are just people and the less we expect of them, the less we will see. Dumbing down, lowering expectations, making excuses, diminishes people. It devalues them and thereby all of us.

As to your point of immunity to the madness, I am not, nor is anyone else. I see it, I taste it in the air. It frightens me because I know I am susceptible like everyone else and it threatens us all. I have given up most vices like drinking and smoking as well as things like topless bars, not because I'm too good for them but because I see them as a threat. I have experienced all of it and have fallen. I have nothing to prove...at all. I want to survive and these things that can wreck my life are not worth it. I have seen too many others that thought they could do it all and it wouldn't touch them. They were wrong. We are fragile. Look at anyone, look at history. All I need is enough business setbacks to look at this and say to hell with it. Become an eater or a biter as it were. None of us are immune. That's the whole point. This is a contagion that can take us all down. They are making it very easy to succumb.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:49 | 4634406 acetinker
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IMHO, you are a resounding success- I wish more were like you.  Your trauma was in realizing you were full of shit, and that's a hard thing to do.

I didn't say you were immune to the zombie plague as I am not, either.  I simply suggest that you, yourself, will never be the zombie.  Saying that, I fully realize the discomfort this implies.  Why, oh why did I take the red pill?

 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:02 | 4634442 Oldwood
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I try not to let these type of things control my personal life, but, on the other hand, I cannot ignore it. I have people who depend on me. It might be alright if I was still in a college town smoking dope as a wild and crazy guy...but that's not my life.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:52 | 4634579 acetinker
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Yeah, it's kinda funny in a way.  Back in the sixties, we grew our hair long as a visible protest of the 'establishment'.  It was around the birth of my first child, that I gave up the sex-drugs-rock 'n roll lifestyle.  But, it was much more than that, that I gave up.  I got busy raising children, and doing all the obligatory shit that raising kids implies.

I cut my hair and tried my best to blend in.

It didn't work- the beast spat me out at every turn- and this is while I'm trying to raise my kids, and doing all I can to benefit the mechanisms of the beast I hadn't yet learned to loathe.

Now, the kids are grown.  My hair is once again long.  The beast is still alive and well. but not for long.

The kids will suffer for my sin of trying to give them more than I had.

I, and I alone am to blame.  My children will pay for what I've done, the IRS will make sure of it.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:01 | 4634439 SmallerGovNow2
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Oldwood, you sound very much like one of the very few friends i have in this life that gets it and that i would actually go to bat for...

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 22:55 | 4638003 acetinker
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I tell people all the time that I started with nothing- and still have most of that left.  You want a machine?  Pay me.  You want tools for that thing? Pay me.  These things I can understand, somebody had to produce that stuff and deserves to be paid.

Then comes gov't.  You wanna business license?  Pay me.  You wanna earn a paycheck from your enterprise?  Pay me.  You need tools and supplies to run your little enterprise?  Pay me.  You wanna exist in the space I claim as my own (city, county, state or fed) ?  Pay me.

These agencies that claim dominion over me don't do fuck-all for me.  If I bitch, they claim they don't have jurisdiction, and point me to yet another dead end- and the fucking people who work there, and the judges too, will make this claim with a straight face- There is no compunction among them.

Then again, if I run over my neighbors' azalea bush after having a couple beers, this same system will rain down upon me with full force.

Yeah, I'm just crazy.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:44 | 4634230 FredFlintstone
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I think I may be coming down with something.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:06 | 4634295 Oldwood
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Dude! What's wrong with your eyes!!

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:54 | 4634410 SmallerGovNow2
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Oldwood, your post one level above this spoke the entire article in just a few sentences.  You NAILED it... 

"The zombies have no interest in the fellow zombie's dying flesh. They want living, productive tissue. Once bitten, the productive also crave the productive flesh rather than productivity itself. This is the world today. As each of us who tries to pursue a productive path meets with resistance we are eventually "bitten" and infected with the zombie virus. The futility of productive pursuits becomes apparent, and we too fall in line with the rest of the flesh eaters. The ranks of the infected will continue to grow until there are no productive "living" souls left to consume."

Felt this way my whole adult life...

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 00:44 | 4634763 Freddie
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A virus that is passed socially through the media.

Unplug TV and Hollywood folks or keep supporting the shitshow and your serfdom.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:31 | 4633609 Smegley Wanxalot
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I love a fuckin uplifting article about the good shit in life like Fritos and Diet Coke.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:37 | 4633624 Beard of Zeus
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Dow 20,000 bitchez!

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:37 | 4633625 scuttlebutt
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What's a 'funyun'? I want one.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:54 | 4633674 logicalman
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An onion with a sense of humour?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:48 | 4634246 Cpl Hicks
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Funyuns, the official snack food of Walter White and Jesse Pinkman!

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:00 | 4634276 bonin006
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I have some faint recollection of that word from TV commercials maybe 30 or so years ago, but it seems they are still available. I never tried them so proceed at your own risk.

http://www.fritolay.com/our-snacks/funyuns-onion.html

 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:40 | 4633629 fonzannoon
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That character Shane represented the two rules you need to remember in life. Always be able to run a little faster than the guy next to you, even if that means shooting him in the leg, and don't bang your best friends wife, under any circumstances.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:39 | 4633633 q99x2
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Its been a blast so far. I'm waiting fot eh return of some good acid and then the grand finale.

YeeeeeeeeHaaaaaaaaa.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:55 | 4633682 logicalman
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These guys made some good 'cid

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Julie

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:39 | 4633634 rtalcott
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Too many words for what should be a simple and obvious message.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:43 | 4633647 Smegley Wanxalot
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Yeah, for a guy that doesn't watch much TV he sure goes into detail and thought about the braindead show that he doesn't watch.

Fortunately I have no TV, so my conversion to zombiehood will come from internet porn.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:51 | 4633644 kurt
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One of the saving graces of the psy-op programmers is they like the sound of their own voice. Hence, they bloviate as is done here. Most of us don't have the patience to endure such claptrap.

"Zombies" are being marketed:

1) Dehumanize the (future) victims to make them kill worthy

2) Desensitize the victims to the process whereby they are turned into zombies.

Sick, starving, stressed, poisoned, diseased people, living in broken down chaos will wear their injuries and eventually look and move like zombies.

Well armed preppers, protecting what they have, have already trained to kill zombies with "zombie target dummies." I'm pretty sure a little research will reveal that they are designed and marketed by a CIA shell company. 

Victims are "not human" and it is, therefore, ok to kill them. Thus we kill each other by design. 

Finally, the millions of rounds of ammunition being stored by the federal government are used to "clean up" wherein the stragglers are killed as well as the, now crazy preppers. 

Of course there will be examples of cannibalism. 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:34 | 4633832 Confused
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Zombies are being marketed because it makes money. Not everything is so calculated. 

 

It would be funny if this show was based on a comic written by a kid from the middle of the country over 10 years ago. It would be even more funny if the writing was done so well, that compared to what is normally on TV, it appeared to be shakespeare. 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:43 | 4633645 disabledvet
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"it's all about the supply chain. that's where the real apocalypse is gonna come from."

yeah, okay. we had the telegraph in 1840...and we still have the postal service.

we have too much supply chain. we only use all this oil because we've been forced to. you can fuel your Tesla for free...your car will drive you in a few years...if you work google that happens right now.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 01:59 | 4634843 ForTheWorld
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You still need products made with petroleum products (and not just oil itself - all the derivatives used to make EVERYTHING in the supply chain for the machines used to make machines) to make those Teslas, and the batteries, and the transmission lines, and the solar panels, and... well, you should be starting to get the idea.

Technology itself won't save us. We have to save ourselves through the appropriate use of the appropriate technology (and no, newer doesn't mean better) to produce the essentials (clean food and water, shelter, sanitation and medicine). Anything else is a luxury.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 06:19 | 4634972 new game
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how come we can't just say out loud the real problem - growth based on another human in a finite world. everything else is same old human behavior...

some will survive-it will be random but based on darwin type principles.

like a chart, retracement based on pop growth since advent of fosil fuels, barring nuks...

8 bil> retrace of 62 percent gives you? do you feel lucky?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:45 | 4633653 IridiumRebel
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http://jacksonville.com/news/2014-04-06/story/solar-peril-could-giant-su...

I watched "Contagion" last night with my wife. As we hurl further into narcissism, more and more possibilities for collapse will present themselves. I believe it will be slow and then sudden. Watching the movie, I was befuddled by Matt Damon's character who waits in his house as neighbors are raided and the town's people devolve into chaos. We have a place to go and preps made for a good amount of time. I am about to purchase/build a solar generator; enough for one refrigerator. "Something" may never happen, but after seeing how folks become in a mild scenario(Hurricane Sandy) you would be stupid to not have the bare minimum. This year the final touches of self-sufficiency should be had. The garden is almost ready. Be prepared. You can do so little to be ready for anything. It is your choice to accept the inevitable because at some point, whether long or short, it will be all on you. GLTA.

 

Is it like this
In death's other kingdom
Waking alone
At the hour when we are
Trembling with tenderness
Lips that would kiss
Form prayers to broken stone.

 

-Eliot

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:51 | 4633666 DaddyO
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IR, glad to see your making good headway. I'm well prepped and working on my last little project to take my well off grid. Should be done in a couple of weeks.

Nothing like living as self-reliant as your great grandparents.

DaddyO

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:06 | 4633688 IridiumRebel
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Yessir. We would be heading to the grandparents. They got land, horses, food stores, heavy equip, well water, seclusion. We can go for a month or so here, but a Big DaddyO problem would mean we would leave for them. Good to hear your placing the final touches. Thank God we are prepped. Nothing may happen, but if it does we will not be a burden. 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:46 | 4634403 SmallerGovNow2
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Ordering two 250 watt panels now.  Hook together for 24 volt system with four 6 volt golf cart batts for a 24 volt system.  should be able to run fridge and chest freezer (very energy efficient) when SHTF...

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:09 | 4633997 James
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Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:47 | 4633658 ConManipulation
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I love the show, but the survivors sure do have a lot of shit to learn about how they could make themselves safer.  For the love of God, sew a fucking thick nylon jump suit together, so you can't get bit on 90% of your body.  Learna  lesson from Michone and make yourself a crude sword from any one of the 500,000,000 pieces of steel laying around, and get some damn lessons from her on how to swing it.  Bleh.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:58 | 4633692 logicalman
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Will this strategy save us from the banksters???

 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:02 | 4633706 Oldwood
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I hear banksters taste just like...pork.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:21 | 4634176 RafterManFMJ
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Wow Oldwood, this is the best long pig I've ever had! You simply must give me the recipie!

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:37 | 4634382 Oldwood
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Recipes from the "Best of Hannibal Lecter"

Serving Man

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:45 | 4634399 Axenolith
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I'd be scared of getting wicked bad Kuru though...

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:58 | 4633905 XitSam
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There's a lot of things that get ignored to make the story more exciting.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:44 | 4634396 Axenolith
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Really, in the Walking Dead world Kevlar would be worth it's weight in silver probably.  In the real world TEOTWAWKI though, you'll need ballistic trauma plates too;-)

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:49 | 4633661 buzlightening
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With all the bankster fraud and corruption you'd feel compelled to hurry along the death of many.  Appears banksters in self detruct mode now anyway.  In the grand scheme, God will sort them out but you certainly can't be held in universal contempt should you assist in setting a few of the bankster appointments with God.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:51 | 4633665 0b1knob
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The facsination most people have with zombies, vampires (Twilight movies), occult nonsense, the apocalypse and conspiracies is a symptom of the hopelessness and malaise that people feel today.   Germany went through a similar period in the 1920s and early 1930s.   There were people who SERIOUSLY believed that Hitler was the Messiah when he first started.

It did not end well.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:06 | 4633722 cossack55
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No shit. They ended up with Frau Merkle.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:15 | 4633735 Dr. Engali
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"There were people who SERIOUSLY believed that Hitler was the Messiah when he first started."

There are people in our country who believed, and still believe, that Zero is the messiah and they happen to be our American zombies. History doesn't repeat.........

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:16 | 4633767 IridiumRebel
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Hitlery will be presented as the next Messiah. SEIG HEIL HITLERY!

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:37 | 4634045 Pareto
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.......But it sometimes ryhmes.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:55 | 4633680 Debt Slave
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A fruitful community that chooses decent honorable leaders, adopts a moral code, treats all members with respect, encourages hard work and accountability, and plans for the future, will reap the benefits of sustainability and stability.

Sounds a lot like National Socialism. Don't believe it? Check it out.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 17:59 | 4633697 logicalman
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There is only one uncorruptible 'ism'

Anarchism.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:05 | 4633718 Oldwood
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Anarchy is the seed to all corruption. The distruction of order is all tyranny really needs to prosper.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:37 | 4633844 logicalman
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I guess you don't know much about anarchism.

Do some research with eyes and mind open.

Get back to me.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:41 | 4634389 Axenolith
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I think you're interpreting his comment wrong.  If you took a group of people who believed in anarchy in the strictest sense and placed them alone to evolve, then you might realize some type of workable social system free of the coersion of the majority.  As it stands though, the believer in anarchy is the easiest tool for the tyrant to wield over the herd to threaten them with insecurity and fear of the different.

If your life is ordered, ritualized and stable then change and freedom is scary shit.  The anarchist is a sub 1%er.  For him to preach it to the herd is for him to merely shout out as a dinner bell to the ready politician who will hold him up as an example of what he will protect his herd from.  Can't you hear him now?  "Under his system, where will your next MEAL come from???  Where will your children be SCHOOLED???  Who will defend you from the PREDATORS!?!?"

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:45 | 4634398 Oldwood
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I suppose like most things everyone has their definitions, but my understanding of it is the breakdown and general lack of authority, laws or their enforcement. This has always been the environment that tyrants have capitalized on to aggregate their power. Most people do not want anarchy. they are fearful and will reach out to anyone who will impose some sense of order. Anarchy has a pretty poor track record when it comes to a peaceful existence. Look at how many world leaders were assassinated or attempted between Lincoln and Mckinley, almost all self described anarchists. Nothing good from any of it. What we have today is the opposite extreme of anarchy, fascism and tyranny.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 06:27 | 4634979 new game
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i think you are referring to the dark ages - behead the fucker he looked at me wrong...

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:11 | 4633744 Oldwood
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Sounds like the lies that each and every political movement proclaims. The one thing that never happens, at least to those we "choose" to lead us is accountability. Accountability is THE rule, the only thing that really matters and is always the first thing to evaporate. If accountability existed the lies would not...for long.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:32 | 4634373 Axenolith
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I agree, I have an issue with the knocking of "individualism".  There's a big difference in living under a system where something[s] are required of you rather than expected of you.  The rural area my paternal grandfather grew up in was very close amongst it's folks, but things were expected of folk, not required.  Like between the ages of 16 and ~60 or so, you were expected to have a shovel and be ready to fall out and repair the creek fordings after floods.  The understanding [unspoken] being that everyone pitching in when some or all are in need warrants the automatic return of that communal aid if you or your family had a difficult problem, task or hardship.

It was (and kind of still is in the area) a lot along the Amish and Mennonite communities (and indeed, there are loads of them around that area), most folk descending from common groups of settlers (Mom's side has been in that particular area since ~1700).  There is not really a regulatory environment in these types of communities, but there is an expectation of behavior and reciprocity that is self reinforcing without being overtly coercive. 

Most of the folk, often the young, that feel constrained can move out.  That is another aspect of the American experience that is often lost in the discussion.  We evolved from people who were able to pick up and leave when they "got sick of the bullshit".  It was VERY difficult to ensconse the system that evolved into what we ultimately experience today when the top 5%-10% of people who "get shit done" could say "bite me" to the powers that be and leave for places that the powers had little or no ability to enforce control over.  We're at the end of that rope now, and that 5%-10% is currently hunkering down and waiting for either a new frontier to open or for the controllers and their serfs to be whittled down drastically in an unusual event...  

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 05:53 | 4634953 Bluebear
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The word "socialism" implies forceable distribution of resources amongst the members of its society... you are misrepresenting Oldwood's position...

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:02 | 4633708 God Bless The V...
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Wow, great commentary and as a loyal fan of the show, I just want to add that we all should know evil and what it looks like.

If you believe in God, you have to believe in the devil.

You need to know the enemy if  light is to vanquish the darkness.

I was given a book while doing some work for a disabled woman through my church. The name of the book is,

"They Fired The First Shot 2012,"

the Lord truly works in  mysterious ways.

It is not a happy read by any stretch, but neither was this post. But we read it still. There is hope, we need to seek out like minded people who are ready to do the hard things that will be required to return our Republic to its former glory.

May the good Lord watch over this fragile little experiment in freedom / man's self rule we lovingly call America

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:06 | 4633721 Gaurden
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ummm america hasent been free for well over a hundred years. I suppose the illusion is there but the truth is that megalomaniacs have been control of america for a long long time.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:25 | 4633805 SubjectivObject
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For me, based on my subjective realizaitons, the Diety is real.

The devil I realize is an allegory living in each one of us.  Its substance is our refined by the ages physical body and emotions, with this recently evolved intellective matter loosley attached/connected.  Survival self interest remains the default operative basis for motivation in the now infinitely cunning humammal.  Higher order realizaitons intended to raise the quality of being of the human entity, but those traditions and understandings are destroyed by modern corporape culture. 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:03 | 4633713 Gaurden
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To say its not going to end well will be the greatest understatement in history.

 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:08 | 4633732 bigkansas
Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:25 | 4633802 bigkansas
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Who is writing this clickbait trash anyway? OH! LOOK, AN AUTHOR!

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article45117.html

I asume this exists because addarall.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:11 | 4633743 post turtle saver
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all of you will look back on this post in 20 years and wonder why you spent all that time worrying instead of living

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:13 | 4633750 Oldwood
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Can we not live AND be prepared? My parents did it for eighty years and didn't suffer too much, but then again they didn't live in debt trying to buy all of the toys before they died either.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:14 | 4633758 Dr. Engali
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Who says you can't live and prepare at the same time? Preprint doesn't mean that one has to hold up in a bunker all their life. It just means you have a plan of action just in case shit hits the fan.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:25 | 4633806 Radical Marijuana
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Yes, Dr. Engali, of course, one should do both!

The basic background problems with attempts to "be prepared" are that the 1% who are trying have no realistic ways to actually cope with the 99% that are not prepared. Furthermore, when this "shit hits the fan" it will be amplified to be many of orders of magnitude greater than any kind of previous shit which hit any previous fans, that we currently know about during recorded human history.

Furthermore, paradoxically, the first priority, after the current systems did collapse into chaos, would be to endeavour to reconstitute some workable governmental system, that could survive in the conditions after such collapses into chaos. Therefore, efforts to reform governments necessarily blend into efforts to revolutionize governments, and those are actually the most important ways to attempt to try to "prepare" for whenever the "shit hits the fan."

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:25 | 4634351 SmallerGovNow2
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With Doc and RM for sure...  You CAN do both...

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:51 | 4634412 Oldwood
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That is the paradox of The Walking Dead. To be prepared, be compassionate and also be ready and willing to go caveman on anyone who fucks with your existance. I think it calls for judgement...that thing that political correctness tells us we should abandon at all costs. Only our glorious leaders are capable, qualified and endowed with the authority to be judgemental. Infect us with the virus and then weaken our defense systems. Double tap.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:44 | 4634232 DanDaley
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all of you will look back on this post in 20 years and wonder why you spent all that time worrying instead of living

 

I disagree. Like the Godfather (Brando) said: Women and children can afford to be careless, men cannot.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:15 | 4633756 esum
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what is the true dollar value level of the stock market.... as compared to a $0.05 candy bar from 1955 that now costs $1.00...and has less chocolate...

16000/20 = djia 800.... seems fair-valued to me... how about you... 

 

far as social-values goes.... the libtards have used hollywood to glorify evry form of debauchery, immorality, self indulgence and glorify the antihero... and the numbskulls swallow it ... emulate it and pay the price in the end.... and then ask ....what the fuck just happened...

 

get in over your head financially, dont work hard, or dont work at all... dont make emotional committments... stay free and live an empty sterile existence.... its heaven on earth ... or is it 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:25 | 4633808 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  or is it 

It IS.   Ask the OldFarts living off their Big-Gov scams how great things are.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:57 | 4634425 Oldwood
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Really? Exactly how many of us have had any choice whatsoever regarding our participation in Social Security or Medicare/caid. They have jammed this shit down our throats with the threat of law and dare we claim what they promised we become the leaches? We know it is not sustainable and few I know are banking on it, but give me a fucking break. The whole fucking thing is corrupt. There is not a single job or business that would not come under threat of collapse if the corruption spigot was cut off starting with the stock market and banks. OldFarts my ass!!

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:16 | 4633768 alfred b.
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    This is way too long....think I'll wait for the movie!

 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:23 | 4634344 SmallerGovNow2
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Your one of the zombies apparently...

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:18 | 4633775 Radical Marijuana
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I find no reasonable ways to disagree that about 99% of North Americans are Zombie Sheeple, since all of the social statistics that I am aware of confirm that point.

I always liked that Huxley quote:

"They are normal not in what may be called the absolute sense of the word; they are normal only in relation to a profoundly abnormal society. Their perfect adjustment to that abnormal society is a measure of their mental sickness."

Similarly from Jeddi Krishnamurti:

It's no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.

However, I continue to find Jim Quinn to still be one of the

The fundamental factor driving the Zombification of the masses of people has been the prolonged success of backing up frauds with force, controlling their whole civilization, and therefore, the circumstances of their entire life. However, better resolutions to those situations will NOT be found in any return to impossible ideals. Rather, the only better resolutions will require more people to understand political problems through using unitary mechanisms, rather than continuing to use the same old-fashioned false fundamental dichotomies.

Having private banks creating the public "money" supply out of nothing as debts required that the vast majority of people not understand that, and be conditioned to not want to understand that. People adapting to live "successfully" within a civilization controlled by huge legalized lies, backed by lots of legalized violence, has been the main factor driving them being reduced to Zombie Sheeple, since there was a runaway feedback between corrupting the government enabling those who benefited from that being able to even more corrupt the government. That has resulted in a population which is able to operate through attitudes of evil deliberate ignorance towards the basic laws of nature, as well as understanding what little they barely do backwards.

In that context, Jim Quinn is typical of many other authors republished on Zero Hedge, in that he writes articles that excellently skim across the surface, like well-thrown skipping stones, but does not penetrate much deeper into understanding how and why that really worked. Thus, he presents no better resolutions to those political problems. However, of course, that makes perverse sense, since within a society in which about 99% of the population are already effectively nothing more than Zombie Sheeple, there are no good solutions which appear practically possible.

At least the Black Sheeple have an audience of other Black Sheeple. Outside of that tiny percentage of a tiny percentage, there is no practical political point in promoting more radical truths about the deeper nature of these problems, and therefore, the deeper ways that those problems should and could be better resolved. What I have to say naturally has only an audience of a tiny percentage, of a tiny percentage, of a tiny percentage.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:23 | 4633800 NOTaREALmerican
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Americans are Zombies because we've had 60+ years of prosperity.  

You can't expect people to "question things" when something has worked for so long.  

And, as people notice things are worsening, most rational people are going to ask the question:  What changed and how can we go back to what worked?

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:21 | 4633830 Radical Marijuana
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Indeed, NOTaREALmerican, the flows of fiat money were the facts of life for most people, within which they best adapted by taking that for granted, and working within that system, as that Ponzi Scheme would deliver its short-term benefits to those who could best take advantage of it. It is very hard for most people to imagine that we are going to be living through the times when the short-term benefits of the social pyramid systems that we were born and lived within are becoming overwhelmed by the longer term costs of having done that. But nevertheless, since the debt slavery systems necessarily drive debt insanities to develop at an exponentially accelerating rate, we appear to be living in those times NOW ...

P.S.

It was odd how my previous comment lost most of a paragraph while it was being posted. I guess that was some computer glitch, but, after anyone replies, it is too late to fix that error.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:44 | 4634068 logicalman
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If you are called 'normal' by a pack of lunatics, you have a problem

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:07 | 4634296 SubjectivObject
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You seem normal to me.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:46 | 4634402 DanDaley
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Love the quote from Krishnamurti.

I was at lunch today at work, and somebody had some the game show Family Feud on the tv, and my co-workers (who are very nice people, actually) are immediately sucked into it like a seagull into the turbofan of a 747. I'm thinking, My God, really? How can you watch that innane, soul deadening crap?

 

 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:29 | 4633819 ironmace
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I think they eat people in Terminus.

That's my guess.

Not sure what lesson to derive from that.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:06 | 4633934 Grouchy Marx
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Lesson: keep ketchup on hand. 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:09 | 4634139 post turtle saver
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the lesson is that "civilization" just means the killing is organized

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:39 | 4633852 Roanman
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Damn, Jim sure has a lot of time on his hands.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 18:40 | 4633856 The Wisp
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They will kill and Burn and Rape until all the steal-able food is gone.. then things will Die Down.. ( literally )

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:01 | 4633913 XitSam
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Jim, you were doing good until you brought up the forth turding. Saved it right for the end, you did.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:17 | 4633963 Grouchy Marx
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I wouldn't go so far as to say it's a miracle that puts Cheetos on Walmart shelves, but I will say there's nothing natural about the whole process. 

Cheetos, toy dogs, and fiat currency. When nothing is real anymore, can any civilization continue to stand? 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:32 | 4634023 Yardfarmer
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"There are 318 million Americans and a majority of them fall into the category of zombies in my estimation. Every American has the zombie virus within them."

very wise in his own estimation, and mercilessly unforgiving in the intolerance of any reasonable objection to his grotesquely myopic deconstruction of American society, Quinn is revealing the dissociation common to the megalomania endemic to an ideological assumption of moral superiority. one nasty piece of work.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:18 | 4634329 SmallerGovNow2
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Would down vote you -2,000 for being a complete idiot but with your italics it is not possible...

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:34 | 4634028 Gaurden
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The walking dead is pretty much everyone who is not aligned with the fucking devil and his legion of evil.

I prefer to be a walking dead myself.  

 

 

  

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 19:40 | 4634046 1stepcloser
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Stay away from the walking Muppets...  You can only kill them by hitting them in the wallet

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:13 | 4634148 cpgone
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So he is a prepper.

 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:13 | 4634149 cpgone
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So he is a prepper.

 

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:19 | 4634170 Gaurden
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yea ..since the 1800's or so..id imagine well see what a couple of hundred years of prepping can do.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 20:16 | 4634160 grady8
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An absolute masterpiece. I wouldn't have expected any less after his write up on the Hunger Games. Unfortunately beyond most.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 21:55 | 4634421 pupdog1
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I burst into tears when you got to the part about no Cheetos.

Mon, 04/07/2014 - 22:14 | 4634486 NO1HOME
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So I wrote this song about a post apocalytic wasteland in much the same form the auther relates to WD as an outlet to express frustration I was feeling about the lack of present citizenry. My isolation manifested into comical creation...check it out. Developing a whole EP around the concept

 

https://soundcloud.com/magnician/zombie-trailer-park

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 00:52 | 4634777 gregga777
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Articles like this are targeted at a very narrow audience and have little appeal to the people being insulted by the author.

The vast majority of Americans already have a hard enough time coping with their declining standards of living. They don't have the resources to educate themselves enough to analyze what underpins our civilization. In fact, most people don't have the intellectual capability to understand the issues. I don't think everyone here quite grasps the real issue or the magnitude of the problem.

Even so, the consensual reality of our world civilization is constantly reinforced and reiterated by governments, mainstream media tightly owned and controlled by just a few people, public education, and so on. And don't forget that the governments have the guns, and peer flows from the barrel of a gun. Challenge reality and one is quickly labeled (I.e., eccentric, rebel, Commie, etc.) and isolated from the herd. Most people can't psychologically stand live that way.

Fiat currency is a symptom not the cause of our problems. Economics is a dismal failure for failure to incorporate the overwhelming necessity of fossil fuels in every activity in the Economy into their many so-called 'models'.

When you look at everything in our highly mechanized, technological civilization it is obvious that it was enabled by constantly increasing amounts of ever cheaper fossil fuels and more convenient to use energy sources. Those who tout alternative or renewable energy resources need to understand that for all practical purposes nothing in our civilization could have been manufactured, delivered and installed without fossil fuels.

There are very, very high fossil fuel content in all of the alternative or renewable energy projects. For example, I would be surprised if any component in a wind turbine could be manufactured without fossil fuels. It cannot be delivered to the customer without fossil fuel powered vehicles, ships or aircraft. It can't be installed or maintained in a wind farm without overwhelming reliance on very specialized fossil fuel-powered vehicles.

That goes for hydropower projects from the dams to the electrical machinery. They couldn't have been built without significant fossil fuel input. Why is this important? How are the current stocks of capital equipment going to be maintained, repaired or replaced without fossil fuels? Forget about building out alternate or renewable energy industries even if current stocks of capital equipment are allowed to deteriorate.

Without natural gas for manufacturing hydrogen-rich ammonia-based fertilizers crop yields will plummet to about 10% of today's yields. Without all of the specialized fossil fuel-powered vehicles we will have to empty the cities anyway to provide farm labor causing further pressure on yields. Pre-industrial agriculture crops rarely yielded surpluses.

Then there are problems presented by the cities that outsourced the production of just about everything. There is not enough land in all of Japan to sustain just Tokyo alone, what about the rest of Japan? Though less extreme the same problem exists all across the United States.

Forget about biofuels. The laws of thermodynamics cannot be broken and those laws doom biofuels. Diversion of food produced with significant fossil fuel inputs to produce biofuels is criminal, condemning people around the world to starvation, and stupid.

The industrial effort that would be required to the produce the equivalent volumes of biofuel energy required (1.61 gallons of ethanol is at LHV Lower heating value equivalent to 1.0 gallons of gasoline) would require huge investments in capital equipment produced with huge fossil fuel expenditures.

In 2009, worldwide production of beer, maybe the largest installed base of producers of ethanol base stocks, would have yielded enough net ethanol, though the necessary industrial installations to distill ethanol in such volumes may not exist, to be << 1.0% of total world production of barrels oil equivalent.

For the past +40 years real costs of energy has been increasing even though volumes of fuels were still increasing. With the coming plateau and then decreasing volumes over the coming decades prices will skyrocket. World-wide economies will collapse.

There is a fundamental problem to non-renewable resources and especially so with fossil fuels. There is no thought given to replacement costs of the resource especially the time element. By one calculation (I believe made by Canadian scientist David Hughes) we burn 14,000 years of fossilized sunshine every days. So, what is the replacement cost of a gallon of gasoline? That is, what does it cost to synthesize a fuel with the heating value as a gallon of gasoline? Make sure to account for all fossil fuel inputs in your calculations. It will knock your socks off!

WW 2 was largely a war for energy resources and land. It's going to be much worse than anyone thinks. There will be fierce conflict for energy resources and reserves, food, starvation, shortages and flat out 'they don't make it anymore', everything.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 12:17 | 4635909 plane jain
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I'm no Suzy Sunshine, but this article does seem over the top to me labeling 99% as zombies  Best I can tell the population is more like 20% aware/prep minded and another 20% intelligent/adaptable; but in denial/live for today types. The rest may be safely regarded as sheep due to ignorance, lack of intelligence, or social media programming.  

We are facing a convergence of multiple big complicated problems.  There are no sure things.  Prepping may save your hide, or you might get dusted by some unexpected factor.  Or maybe you don't prep, but have the mental and physical strenght to survive and are fortunate and avoid the worst.

Labeling the competition in your struggle to survive less than human might help as a coping mechanism, but only the most cold and amoral will be able to cling tight to such a ruthless truism.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 01:14 | 4634801 chindit13
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Quinn writes well and all that, but geez, I think we’ve all heard by now the ‘life sucks then you die’ thing.  If, as Quinn writes, it’s all been miserable even before this current crisis, and it’s only going to get worse from here on out, then perhaps Jim should convert to Buddhism or Hinduism or some faith that believes in reincarnation, and then go about sending his soul to its next Earthly iteration.  Get started now, too, before the line of ex-FIRE types, bagholding silver stackers, and Ukrainian speakers create a bottleneck through the inter-dimensional portal.  Buddy up with Michael Snyder, too, why don’t you.

Even if the zombies were deluding themselves with their Fritos and Cheese Puffs, at least they had a moment or two of joy in their short existence.  You think life has ever been easy, Quinn?  Ever?  Can you imagine that even during the Black Plague, or the London Blitz, some people might actually have smiled and made the best of it?  Brokaw wrote about the Greatest Generation.  Now we have The Whiniest Generation.  Misery has become such a sought-after destination, especially around here, that people even make up stuff---conspiracies and wild theories and all that---that have no connection to reality, but offer them just one more chance to experience bitterness and heartache. 

Yes, everything sucks.  Sucks, sucks, sucks, sucks.  Woe is fucking you.  Now say that as many times as necessary, blow it out your ass, and then cowboy up.  Embrace the challenge.  You’re dead meat either way, so make the best of it.  If this is last dance, don't be a goddamn wallflower.

 

 

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 01:58 | 4634841 DavidPierre
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Americanized bilge.

It’s a big world and most of it never saw drive-in movies of the 1950?s, current American television drivel, or US news TV. Ever.

Spread your wings. This post pertains to 5% of the world’s people. Nobody else is on the zombie train. In fact there are some places in the world doing quite well, with decent traditional values and functional economies that would dismiss tripe like this as tabloid journalism found in the street kiosks of free newsprint.

You really need to get out more often. America is one small corner of the world and there are a whole lot of people on the globe who could give a shit less about what corporate programming Americans are watching on the TV, or its cultural ‘deeper meaning’.

Quinn... You spend too much time on the freeway being angry and trapped in the rat race. It doesn’t have to be that way.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 21:34 | 4637738 acetinker
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Fuck you, DP!  You claim to be enlightened, but yet are not.  The architects and engineers you endlessly tout are merely speculators.

They are the same people as those in charge of the search for mh370.  The details will be dribbled out slowly, and almost none of it is true.

There's no way in even hell that 9/11 went down according to the 'official' reports.

Likewise, there's no way that Quinn is a dumbass.  No way.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 06:16 | 4634970 ArmyofOne
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Read... The Road. 

 

Or watch.  Beats the walking dead by a mile+.

 

http://bcove.me/jspcst7b

 

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 06:56 | 4634997 dogismycopilot
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At some sites we have on site 3-months worth of diesel, food and water…knowing that if things go pear shaped we will leave all of that behind. We insist the security contractors have armories with stocks of guns and ammunition and enough armored SUVs to get everyone out at once as the doctrine calls for evacuation not the Alamo.

While Suburbistan is not the desert drilling environment, I will take being prepared over ‘I hope it works out’ any day of the week. This is because if I am wrong, we are out a few dollars.

If you’re wrong, we are all in deep shit or dead.  

Hope is not a strategy.

I must say, the tenor in the air of everyone i know is quite anxious...lots of friends buying second homes in the country far away from people. 

 

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 07:30 | 4635040 Oldwood
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Most of us are not digging bunkers, but we are damn well thinking about it, and that is the first step...awareness. Trying to balance preparedness with maintaining something like a normal life.

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 14:08 | 4636361 jashad
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I love that this article is next to an ad from Charles Schwab soliciting new accounts. How do I transfer my assets out of Funyuns and Cheetos?

Tue, 04/08/2014 - 15:24 | 4636649 dxj
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Holy shit, get a life.

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 15:45 | 4733146 TBP'er
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