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The 'Crackdown' Begins: Ukraine Launches "Anti-Terrorist" Operations In Eastern Ukraine, Arrests 70
Despite Russia's veiled threat that any ongoing action against pro-Russian demonstrators had the potential to instigate civil war and bring action by the Russian forces, Ukraine's interior minister Arsen Avakov has announced, Reuters reports, that Ukraine has launched an "anti-terrorist" operation in the eastern city of Kharkiv and about 70 "separatists" have been arrested for seizing the regional administration building. Is this the red-line that Putin laid down last night?
As Russia made clear last night, as ITAR-TASS reports,
The Russian Foreign Ministry urged Ukraine to halt any interior military preparations, which could instigate a civil war in the country, the ministry was quoted as saying on its Facebook.com account.
“According to our information, units of the Interior troops and Ukraine’s national guards as well as militants from the illegal armed formation ‘The Right Sector’ are being amassed in the southeastern parts of Ukraine and in the city of Donetsk,” the ministry said.
“We are particularly concerned that the operation involves some 150 American mercenaries from a private company Greystone Ltd., dressed in the uniform of the [Ukrainian] special task police unit Sokol,” the ministry said.
But, in the interests of stability, as Ukraine also made clear yesterday, Reuters reports that
Ukraine has launched an "anti-terrorist" operation in the eastern city of Kharkiv and about 70 "separatists" have been arrested for seizing the regional administration building, Ukrainian Interior Minister Arsen Avakov said on Tuesday.
On his Facebook page, Avakov said: "An anti-terrorist operation has been launched. The city center is blocked along with metro stations. Do not worry. Once we finish, we will open them again."
Ukraine's Interior Ministry was quoted as saying by Interfax-Ukraine news agency that those detained were suspected of "illegal activity related to separatism, the organization of mass disorder, damage to human health" and breaking other laws.
So, it is clear that Ukraine's crackdown - with US mercenaries or not - has begun. The question is how long will Putin stand for it?
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We will need more red lines.
does anybody already know where the announced "peace talks" between US, Russia and Ukraine are going to be held?
Both sides of the red sea.
isn't this the same putin that came running when george bush senior called him to maine, and george junior was pres? george bush senior is still higher on the totem pole than putin isnt he? or is he in rebellion? academy awards all around.
I seem to recall that you are correct. However I would add that was when we had a decisive president that knew how to backup red lines. (Full disclosure: I am no GWB fan but Barry make me long for the days when the president at least attended briefings.)
McCain is on this- 'arm Ukraine'!
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/04/08/357696/mccain-ukraine-needs-arms-against-russia/
MOAR war, always the right answer when you are zionist stooge.
Denver would be nice. Nothing better than passing torpedos as opposed to firing them.
The space station is good place to start.
LAS VEGAS !
"does anybody already know where the announced "peace talks" between US, Russia and Ukraine are going to be held?"
Yes, in the former underground Hitler bunker.
I'm putin my money on Putin.
it's moments like these when i recall john kerry, presidential candidate ordering "swiss cheese" on his philly cheese steak and later asking at a pennsylvania hunting store "where can i get me a huntin' license?"
he's a phoney....and vlad can do whatever he wants....and they both know it.
150 mercenaries is just enough to stir up trouble and cause a Russian
invasion of Eastern Ukraine. The U.S. probably intentionally leaked the
the use of mercenaries to rile the Russians into provocation. That way
they can blame the stock market crash on Russia.
So, Yats and his thugs get to take over a country with Zio-American backing. The Ukrainians or Russian-Ukrainians do NOT get to fight back.
And the Donetsk people get taken over by 150 Greystone Mercs, posing as Ukrainian Security. What! Lavrov/Putin could not see this coming? The could not have lured these Mercs into a trap, rather than have them take over? Remind me again who plays "chess" here?
Wonder f they make a red line Etch-a-Sketch.
My teenagers argue with more substance.
Thorlyx We will need more red lines.
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You mean red blood
I was hoping for a Circle or maybe a Pentagon.
what we need is less bullshit innuendo around here from ITAR-TASS and RT and the like and more facts... not that the Putin nut swingers around here have any proof to offer at all... and, not they'll ever fail to neglect that Putin put his own such unmarked agents in Crimea so recently ago...
this behavior from Russia reminds me of the old adage, "whenever you point a finger at someone, three fingers point back at you"... bring it on you downvoting commie bastards, you know I'm right and the truth hurts
i'm sorry to say this but i think ZH has become a platform for russian government astroturfing. though it's true that operation earnest voice for which ntrepid won a $2.76 million contract for "online persona management" (commonly known as "sockpuppetry") operations was created by the U.S. military, it would be naive to think russian government would not be capable and willing to create it's own version of it and what could be better target group than 'paranoid' alternative news readers (though not paranoid enough when it's the enemy of their enemy). it would be incredible foolish of them to not to fight the (social) media propaganda war so no way this is not going on right now, especially when US (zunzuneo etc) and israel (students for israel hasbara, with $2000 grants for seminating pro-israeli views during their military operations) are fully engaged in it.
i'm not sure if the votes are also the result of astroturfing or it reflects the readers sentiment, but it's safe to assume little bit of both which further augment each other.
Putin's too smart to lay down "red lines." Compare and contrast . . .
I notice that when Putin says "unacceptable" he means it and finds ways to back it up. Russia is strong from within cause her people are awake. As for pushing Russia over the edge via subterfuge and/or conventional forces, Putin is right now tuning up Russia's nuclear response capabilities. He would probably find the evisceration of Russia "unacceptable". In the meantime the wheels are coming off of Satans Babylonian Money Magic bus. Interesting times coming up just ahead.
"We need more red lines."
yep, and as Putin continues to cross them we'll have one hell of a tic-tac-toe.
How come when THEY call it "anti-terrorism", we call BS ??
Depends which side of the red line you are.
On the side of freedom, self-determination and peace?
I know, I know. There I go again with that crazy radical talk.
Great expectations, the time is soon coming where we will have to fight for these.
Thorlyx Depends which side of the red line you are.
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It's all BS. Though only a few of the propagandized will learn of it later.
Walking up to the plate and swinging in the clean-up position is Vlad Putin, batting 1.000, he's at the top of his game....
Go Vlad, go!
Thorlyx Go Vlad, go!
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Yes, Vlad, go. Go to hell with all the globalist including BHO
Whack that baboon! Whack that baboon!
Watch out for the bunt.
unschedulled ICBM testing coming soon to a city next to you.
A big Topol can ruin your day.
I loved him in Fiddler on the roof!
Terrorism is the new racism. The term has been so over used that it has list all meaning. Every time the word is used people's eyes start rolling.
[insert rolling eyes here]
Save your eyes for the great "racist terrorist" slur coming from a Jim Carney soon.
[insert eye rolling practice here]
Oh, I agree with the good Dr. And he DID use the magic word.
Please, one man's "terrorist" is another man's "CIA operative"...
same as it ever was...
Yeah, they are assholes but they are our assholes.
They are all dichotomies. One man's meal is another man's poison. Flip a coin, pick a side.
Freedom fighter = rioter
Terrorist = Freedom fighter
Terrorism has been normalised into our daily lives and mind sets as ever prevelant, even though a car is more of threat to us. Sub-conscious programming inducing an increasingly compliant population. Say the word terrorism and most automatically think we need more govt security or govt action - they're hypnotised.
I wish there was more eye rolling.
Are you saying that GM is putting out "terrorist" cars.
Oh the irony.
GM is a terrorist cell.
Unsafe at any speed.
Thank you, Ralph Nader!
In that case I'm keeping my old Dodge.
Good idea. I would never buy a car newer than 15 years. It could wind up on Diego Garcia.
Terroracism!
Dats terrorayciss...
They're under every rock, waiting to slap our women and eat our livers. Clinton in '16!
signed, Programed Sheeple
These days, when I hear the word 'terrorist'...my first thought is of our criminal government.
Ukraine leaders want a civil war because it is the only way they can stay in power.
When the neo-nazi's storm gov buildings they are "freedom fighters", when the pro-russians storm gov buildings they are "terrorists"
OK.
what, you don't like hypocrisy?? geeesh...
meanwhile in parliament
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMavFBI8t94&feature=youtu.be
WOW, i wonder what nazies doing Anti Terrorsit operations look like
It looks amazingly like Hank Schrader on a drug bust.
Greystone ? The Americans have some weird and wonderful names for their mercenaries. Maybe OMON will have to put a few captured ones on YouTube ?
Just what is the Russian Version of The Monroe Doctrine and why is the US so keen on low-level warfare in this region ?
You just gave me a brilliant thought:
What if Putin decides to start funding the invasion of the US with immigrants? I bet Barry will build a wall then and the GOP will stop with all this illegal immigrant crap. Whatcha think?
How do you know Putin hasn't?
It's called Greystone because Tarzans apes work there. Why are the apes engaged in low level warfare? Resources and the unsavoury possibility that freedom might take root in the world.
i smell a beer summit.
but first....a round of golf.
About the only place in the world one can "take over" a building and not get busted is a liberal US college campus, so I don't quite understand the agnst.
Is this the stage where selected people start "disappearing" ?
Like, say, bankers?
I just wish.
So, both the terrorists and the anti-terrorists are heavily armed guys in unmarked uniforms wearing masks?
It's almost like the term "terrorist" has no real meaning.
I remember growing up in the 80s that the term "terrorism" was essentially viewed as a joke, a fighting tacitc, and something that only posed a threat to lesser nations.
Terrorism is to warfare what GDP is to economics: an ambiguous catch-all term with a floating definition.
Achmed the dead terroist "Spark of insanity".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_jU3FdnNoc
Right out of the US Nazi handbook!
How soon after Russia cuts off all the energy it supplies to Europe will Germany be telling Obama to get the fuck out.
The ace up Russia's sleave is to cause mahem in Saudi Arabia.....
How many KGB dressed as Ukraine police... searching out Mercanries
The KGB dies not exist. Perhaps you meant, the FSB?
Try to keep up.
If I were Putin that would be my exact strategy. Covertly secure eastern Ukraine border with unmarked FSB and then hunt down any CIA/Blackstone that have already slithered in. The mercenaries are at an extreme disadvantage, all of eastern Ukrainie is pro-Russian and will gladly point out mercs for extraction/extermination.
no body, no crime
Is that outside a philadelphia polling station, or is that the Ukraine? Please check with your photo editor, please.
Playing right into Putin's hands one goose step at a time.
Maybe the phoney Ukraine government should supply all these "terrorists" with a gun bracelet. That will fix everything.
Ah, so Putin owns Ukraine. Did not know that.
He has Crimea, he has face. The man is not a fool.
This game is over for now.
Get out of here STALKER
Man, the comments are priceless today - you guys are in rare form! = D
Here's one more from Paul Craig Roberts:
“It is only a matter of time before it is universally recognized that the US is a failed state. Let’s pray this recognition occurs before the arrogant inhabitants of Washington blow up the world in pursuit of hegemony over others.”
source: US, NATO trigger global war over Russia: Analyst
Markets are about to crash and SHTF...thus TPTB need to create a fucking mess somewhere else in the world to cover their track...
You have a BINGO Sir!
@Kina +100
Aint that the truth !
Putin needs to start taking out the khazar leadership. All his troubles will then cease.
Putin needs to take a photo of himself pulling a moony & email it to Obama.
First it was the protesters who were the terrorists. Then it turned out they were funded by America so they were technically representing America, making them mercenaries. Then it turned out they were led by neo Nazis so it all became unclear. Now the Ukrainian people who object to the neo Nazi coup government are being labelled terrorists. Seems that the only thing required to make someone a terroroist is to disagree with American neo Nazi views. So I guess most of the world's population are technically terrorists, not because we have any desire to hurt anyone but because we object to the neo Nazis that do have this desire. Wouldn't it be easier to define a terrorist as someone who wants to cause fear by illegally hurting other people?..but then the American government would be terrorists which explains the mess we have today.
Yup....pretty much.
Yup ... they're terrified of us. Case closed.
It is all about the survelliance, these guys were fishing lures or a pawn sacrifice if you want to use a chess move analogy whether they knew it or not. The only question then staying on the chess motif is was it a real or sham sacrifice?
i am yats
the yidus
i am Rattus norvegicus
Commander of the 150 strong kiev nazi squeaking armies
General of the adolf spielberg simon weasel centre soros Legions.
Loyal servant to the true emperor, jacob arseholieus rothschildickus.
Father to a murdered gay son,
husband to a murdered transgender wife
and I will have my vengeance,
in this life or the
next.
That's the second time I've had to remind myself not to drink anything while reading your post. Top form today Tony.
Roland, the Headless Thompson Gunner was seen in Kiev.
While neo-Nazis are trying to take over the Ukraine with the help of Obama's minions and CNN has put all its resources (including hiring a flight simulator) into the hunt for the missing Malaysian Airline 777, the U.S. real estate market is showing signs of cratering again. Home sales are plunging. The excuses given from unnamed sources are that there are not enough houses available for potential home buyers and that lenders usually requre a credit score over 720 to approve a mortgage.
No one mentions the effect of 30 years of government tax policies that have destroyed large chunks of the American middle class, from Reagan's taxing of Social Security benefits and raising the Social Security withholding rate in 1984 (a rate hike that has pulled $2.7 trillion out of wage earners' salaries (most of this tax income was "borrowed" from Social Security and used to pay for the Reagan tax cuts for the rich and to enrich war profiteers). Until this year, the "carried interest" federal tax income tax loophole for hedge fund operators was 15%, the long term capital gains tax rate. For comparison, the total Social Security tax rate due on the first $117,000 of wage earnings is 12.4%. The power to tax is the power to destroy and federal Social Security tax policies starting in 1983 (which followed the recommendations of Alan Greenspan's commission) have looted the income of middle class wage earners.
Forget about neo-nazi bullshit, that's all a red herring.
The gold has been stolen, the puppet regime is icing on the cake.
The rest that you said is correct.
You can only steal so much until there's nothing left.
Look at this map:
http://www.eegas.com/ukr_090115e.htm
Look at the names of the cities with major gas pumping stations.
Now look at the list of cities where pro-Russian protesters have seized city hall.
Now, considering that the gas-map above matches EXACTLY - EXACTLY AND PRECISELY - with the 'Pro-Russian Seized City Hall' map, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK IT IS NOT ABOUT GAS???????
8 millions of russian speaking outcasts living in eastern and southern ukrain according to Yulia Timoshenko ought to be wiped out with nookula weapons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RxSzSWbcxo&feature=player_detailpage#t=107
This is about gas and pipelines. Ukraine has Russia's pipeline, and their own gas waiting to be extracted. US/western companies have invested $30M in Ukraine gas exploration. Russia has millions in a pipe that Ukraine could use to pump "Ukraine" gas to Europe, instead of Russian, thus Ukraine must become "Russia". Catchin' on now? Still thinkin' Putin's fuckin' Santa, bitchez?
Ukraine doesn't have any gas, some companies think might be something there but it is all basically speculative at moment. $30M, if that's the right number, is a fucking joke of an "investment" by big companies like Chevron. It's a down-payment on a couple of wells, if that.
Most of Ukraine de facto has been Russia since the 1600s. It's the western (Polish) chunk where the shit-stirrers come from.
i.e. it's not about Ukraine's "gas"
"But Russia's Gazprom, controlling almost a fifth of the world's gas reserves, supplies more than half of Ukraine's, and about 30% of Europe's gas annually. Just one month before Nuland's speech at the National Press Club, Ukraine signed a $10 billion shale gas deal with US energy giant Chevron "that the ex-Soviet nation hopes could end its energy dependence on Russia by 2020." The agreement would allow "Chevron to explore the Olesky deposit in western Ukraine that Kiev estimates can hold 2.98 trillion cubic meters of gas." Similar deals had been struck already with Shell and ExxonMobil."
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/mar/06/ukraine...
start here, zerozen, took thirty seconds, and there's much much more out there. Thanks for playing.
So, having the gas stolen by Western interests is better than having it controlled by those in western Ukraine.
Your logic astounds me.
Well, how much money changed hands?
Window dressing.
The government that signed those deals for Ukraine isn't in power anymore.
Ukraine is about a lot things - Russian encirclement by NATO, Russian gas monopoly and greater fools for the EU. It's about the House of Saud, the Petrodollar and the ME.
It's about ruthlessneess on a global scale.
Touche' and fair remus, fair. Many reasons, start with gas, but USD hegemony and etc are in play too. Agreed.
Don't be an idiot.
Ukraine doesn't need gas. They have the only viable pipline land routes to Europe.
And it is more like 80% of Europe's gas coming through Ukraine than 30%. 30% is the percentage of total energy coming as GAS to Europe through Ukraine.
Oh...and Ukraine's pipelines can connect to Turkmenistan GAS just as easily as Russian - OOOPS The Turkmenistan Gas Pipeline terminates in a Georgia region called - 'ABKHASIA".
But.. Ukraine's pipelines can connect to Middle Eastern GAS .... just as soon as Syria will allow the last link in the pipeline to cross his territory.
i.e. IT IS ABOUT GAS. SPECIFICALLY IT IS ABOUT WHOSE GAS WILL GO IN UKRAINIAN PIPELINES
LOOK AT THE PUMPING STATIONS ON THIS MAP, THEN LOOK AT THE LIST OF CITIES WHERE ARMED RUSSIANS CAPTURED CITY HALL.
I DARE YOU.
HERE:
http://www.eegas.com/ukr_090115e.htm
http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/03/16/world-war-iii-is-close-martial-law-is-even-closer/ Once again the excuse is something to do with communism, and the knee-jerk reaction in USA.
Interesting that MAS flight 370 was "lost" 8 March 2014, and on 7 March 2014 (it is claimed) "According to Iskra News: “At 2 a.m. this morning [March 7] an unmarked transport plane was on the runway at Borispol Airport [Ed. Note: East of Kiev]. According to airport staff, before the plane came to the airport, four trucks and two Volkswagen minibuses arrived, all the truck license plates missing. Fifteen people in black uniforms, masks, and body armor stepped out, some armed with machine guns. They loaded the plane with more than 40 heavy boxes. After that a mysterious man arrived and entered the plane. All loading was done in a hurry. The plane took off on an emergency basis. Those who saw this mysterious special operation immediately notified the airport officials, who told the callers not to meddle in other people’s affairs.”)"
Greystone Vs Spetsnaz coming soon...
Am I the only one who finds it absurd that all these official statements are being released on facebook pages?
"The Russian Foreign Ministry urged Ukraine to halt any interior military preparations, which could instigate a civil war in the country, the ministry was quoted as saying on its Facebook.com account."
"On his Facebook page, Avakov said: "An anti-terrorist operation has been launched. The city center is blocked along with metro stations. Do not worry. Once we finish, we will open them again."
WTF? Everybody should click "Like" and respond with "LOL" and "ROFLMAO".
Rumor is that FB will introduce a "red line" button soon.
So Obummers timeline will be full of redlines ?
Or is it Putin's timeline.
What the heck is a timeline ?
Facebook is the new red phone line these days since every fucking US agency in 'national security' chain has backdoor access to all the accounts on it.
The Russians know it and are taking advantage of it.
I bet the 'private' conversations so everyone of them can see are a doozy also. I'm sure they are stirring the turf battle shit stick also.
"We hereby officially declare war on your country !"
For more information about this matter visit our facebook page @ .....
For online battle information follow us on twitter hashtag #....
Better than just dropping a bomb.
No, it's a great idea to use social media.
It means that we plebs get to see what was actually said ... rather than have the story spun to us by the MSM.
More social media negotiations, please.
i am learning Russian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghPHcX3C0to
Let the record show that that cunt, "Fuck the EU" Nudelman, set off this hell on earth.
Follow the link to this GAS map of Ukraine:
http://www.eegas.com/ukr_090115e.htm
Look at the pumping stations and major junctions.
The names of the closest cities to those stations should look familiar, because they are in the news today as 'Seized by pro-Russian Groups'.
P.S. Ask yourself what two cities with GAS junctions Russia would need to control in order to control gas flow to say... Crimea (and maybe the Naval Yards there).
This zoomed-in map will help:
http://www.eegas.com/ukraine_2014-03.htm
Appears to be a dead link.
It is only a short term issue. They can import in LNG or CNG in through other methods if necessary.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/01/us-ukraine-crisis-gazprom-ppel...
But yes you are correct follow the pipeline routes for all parties involved here. Where ever there are pipelines especially strategic ones trouble is sure to follow.
http://rt.com/business/crimea-russia-gas-gazprom-533/
There is also plenty of money to be made from infrastructure construction there. It is one thing to annex a territory but you still need to pull it off the Ukrainian grid and either make it self sufficient or hook it into the Russian grid.